Peach Podcast
Two guys and an occasional guest breaking open topics on: Purpose, Energy, Attitude, Commitment and Health through shared experiences.
Peach Podcast
S3EP13: The Art of Small Discomforts Creates Your Greatest Growth
Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to the Peach Podcast. Just a couple of dudes and an occasional guest breaking open topics from everyday life on purpose, energy, attitude, commitment and health. So, if you're ready, listen in as we live, to learn from our losses, gain from our gratitude and laugh as we level up. Always remember, if you ever feel stuck, all you got to do is just start. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to Peach Podcast with Doug and Daryl man. So good to be back, daryl. We missed last week. Well, I don't know if we missed it. You know we just got busy and I think our priorities and just our mindset and what's most important to us the podcast is absolutely important to us. It's fun, it's engaging, it helps us expand and grow personally, individually and as a team, so it's all good stuff. So it's not that it's not important. And the listeners. You know, gosh, we get some great feedback from some people and we value that and we want to honor that and keep trying to provide great content.
Speaker 2:And last week I think we were a little messy and a little bit all over the place trying to get ready for Death Ride, preparing mentally, physically. Daryl, I know you had an amazing camping trip ahead of you that you had to get prepared for. Plus, we had some training rides up in the Death Valley area that we had to get ready for. So it was kind of a mess and we weren't keen on just throwing something together that wasn't going to quite add value just for the sake of putting something out there. So we're back this week and I am glad because tomorrow we head up to South Tahoe to our place where we have a reservation, but the actual place we're going to be riding is out of Markleyville for Death Ride, and so we're all excited about the whole team is going to be together. Finally, finally, finally, finally. Last week we had four out of five of us and it was a great, great time, a great learning experience. It definitely gave us a pulse check on where we are and what we need to do and what we need to be prepared for mentally, I think. Physically, we all have it. Some of us will be struggling a little more than others, but we're all going to get across that line one way or another, even if we got to drag the damn bike across the line. It's just going to happen. But this week, darrell, I want to, I want to.
Speaker 2:I follow Atomic Habits. James Clear. The author, james Clear, he. When I first read his book gosh, maybe two, three years ago, he really impressed upon me and my mind and my psyche just how to look at changing habits and identity and shifting things with just a whole new perspective. And I find a lot of value from that book to this day, to this day, and I share when people say, hey, what can I do to change this or change my habits?
Speaker 2:I always recommend Atomic Habits. You want to get that book? It's a great book and right now, on this podcast, I will absolutely recommend subscribing to his weekly email. He has a weekly email called 321. And every Thursday he drops these. It's three ideas from him and then he has two quotes and then he has one question and they're really awesome and I thought this week we'll keep this episode kind of fun, engaging, add lots of value for sure. Add lots of value for sure, but we'll keep it short as well. We'll try and keep it short. We'll see. I tend to talk a lot, so that could be a challenge for me. But, daryl, if you're open to it, man, I want to take you through the 3-2-1. I know you're a subscriber to his emails as well, but is that cool with you and is there anything you want to add before we get going? Sounds perfect.
Speaker 3:First of all, summer's going great, sun's out, guns out, having lots of fun. We've kind of switched over and we've been trying to catch up on cycling and we're enjoying it. Right, doug, we're enjoying cycling. However, when you run, you generally have to put shorts and lace your shoes. When we ride, we've all been to the mechanic recently, so we're, we got this other thing called a bike, so, um, so, obviously we have a little extra, extra variable that we're all dealing with. So I think literally between I think, me, you, eric, I think, like four or five of us all been to the mechanic in the last week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I'm glad you brought that up for people who are trying to do something with least amount of effort, because that's important, that's, that's, it's. It's hugely important when you're trying to create a new habit, especially if you're trying to create a healthy habit the least amount of effort. If I had to compare running and cycling, I would say running is way easier because all you're doing is throwing on some shorts, lacing up some shoes and you go. And if you're a beginner, you definitely want to start small, start small so it doesn't require. You don't need to carry a water bottle or extra snacks or nothing. Just go out the door, go around the block two or three times. You're all good, you're all good. But cycling, man, cycling, you got to get your cycling shoes. You got to get your cycling shoes. You got to get water bottles, you got to get snacks, you got to get all these things.
Speaker 3:And we could do a whole podcast of the things we forgot when we go cycling, including one of our peach members that forgot his tire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could have a whole list of things there, oh yeah, yeah, you could even forget your front tire and drive halfway to a starting point and say I forgot my tire, I'm turning around. We won't mention who that is, jr, but that actually happened. That actually happened. So, daryl, as I was saying earlier. So I want to use this segment, this episode, to kind of give. We're going to weave in some awesome tips for getting through summer.
Speaker 2:And when I was reading through this, through the three ideas from James Clear and the two quotes and the one question, I was like oh you know, if Daryl and I could have a conversation on this, we're going to be dropping some awesome tips and tricks. I don't know if you want to call them tricks for getting through summer because, man, it's so easy to get caught up in floating down the river and sucking down a 12-pack of Coors Light and with knowing that man, I said I was going to get healthy this summer. Man, I said I was going to run this summer, I was going to cycle this summer or I was going to eat better this summer. So if you're in that boat and you're a little stuck, don't fret. We are here to have a conversation to hopefully unlock and unleash your inner beast so you can get moving.
Speaker 2:So, daryl, I want to start with the three ideas from James Clear and his first idea that he pops in, quote James Clear here is, and this one might take us for a little spin or a little trail down, you know just thinking, but he says focus on the seeds, not the trees. Focus on the seeds, not the trees. What seeds are you planting today? And so when you hear that, darrell, what comes across your mind?
Speaker 3:First of all, atomic Habits is a great, great book, and these emails are awesome. That was our first book that we read as part of our set, maybe our second book, as we did as far as our book club for men.
Speaker 3:Remember we wrote this. Yeah, this is one of the first ones and it's absolutely great. The seeds, you know, not the trees. What are you planning today? I don't want to go into a lot of work stuff, but I do have a work item that we're just kicking off. It's a big effort. It's going to be a couple-year effort on a big project and a big thing. And I started to think about what are some of the things I was going to have to tell the team. And one of the critical things that I talk about in work, but also, I think, personal life too, is this concept of the 10% rule. And it was one of my college professors and he said you want to know the difference between an A and a B? It's 10% consistent effort every day. Wow, he says. And he says don't overcomplicate it. You know, if you think you're a beast dude and you're going to go cram a good name, good luck. Maybe it may be.
Speaker 3:But if you are an average and you're pretty good and you're doing a good thing. It's consistent 10%. So one of the things we talked about was are we going to succeed on this project or are we going to excel? And we all talked to each other about, hey, doing that one little extra thing. If it's reaching out to somebody and making sure you're aligned with them, if it's checking a spreadsheet, you know everything else. If it's just doing those little things, I think we all know those things right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, when I think about the summertime, I was going to relate it back to. We had a camping trip last weekend and, by the way, I've camped for the last two weeks and I had to get ready for death ride. So, of course, I threw my bike in the back, which is good, I put it on the top of a truck, of all the things, and I was able to go ride, which is great. All of a sudden, I'm walking out the door and I said you know, maybe I'll get a little light workout in. I brought two things I brought a yoga mat and I brought my kettlebell Nice, two things, yeah, and I put them by in the tent.
Speaker 3:I think I did 15 to 20 minutes a day. Two to three workouts, 15 to 20 minutes, that was it. Wow, you know. And all of a sudden lunch came around and you know, I rode my bike in the morning, did a little kettlebell workout In the afternoon. In the evenings we we paddled board. I got through with my day. I was like cross-training and I didn't even know it. And I think, when I take it back to that, it was those little things. I knew I was going to go for a ride and Josephine, I get up pretty early and do that and so she's great and all this. But you know, you know, I think about it. That was that little extra 10%.
Speaker 3:That 10%, yes. And so I think those are the seeds I'm not just thinking about I've got to get an A, I've got to get an A, no, I got to focus on the 10% and those little things. Bringing a mat, bringing a kettlebell In the evening I could have just sat around, but all of a sudden Ava's like hey, can we blow up the paddle boards and go out tonight and do them? And so when I think about the seeds, I think one of the seeds I'm working on is am I doing that little 10% to make a difference between succeeding and excelling?
Speaker 2:I love that. Wow, that's huge. That man, that's perfect for focusing on the seeds and not the trees, because the trees is death ride or your 125 mile run you got coming up next may you know those, that's the trees you know. But, man, if you, if that's all you thought about was the trees, you'd be overwhelmed. You freak out and you say, forget it, let me just crack open a beer and not in your case, but in other people's cases. You know um and just and overeat and not do anything. But the fact that you did 15 to 20 minutes and you brought your you, the fact that you brought your mat and your kettlebell, that's awesome, that sets you up for success, that sets you up, that helps you see, that helps you plant those seeds, so that you, because you know the trees are out there, you know they're out there. And so, man, what a great explanation and what a great example. Daryl, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3:I want to move on to what are your thoughts? Any seeds you're working on, any kind of things, or I know that the next question you want to get to, just curious if you have any seeds you're working on today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, I'm constantly working on I journal every day, and most days when I'm writing something down, I feel uninspired. I feel like, well, what am I going to write about today, and why should I even write this down? But I know it's planting seeds when I'm writing and when I'm putting stuff down, even though it might feel or seem insignificant to me in the moment, that if I just keep planting those seeds, that at some point, someday they'll blossom, they'll bloom, they'll poke through the ground and I'll see something. I'll see something. So that's that's. You know where I'm at with planting seeds. As far as, uh, that's, the biggest thing that sticks out to me right now is just the journaling that I'm doing daily.
Speaker 2:Seeds not trees, yes, seeds, not trees. Keep planting the seeds. I like it. I like it Because if you keep planting, some stuff ain't gonna grow, but if you plant enough, some stuff will grow. Some stuff will grow, all right. Number two, second idea Many of our habits and beliefs are learned from those who raised us. Ooh, that's a big one. Which family story are you unconsciously repeating and reenacting? How can you rewrite the script to liberate yourself and the next generation? What pops into your head when you hear that, darrell, when you hear that idea from Mr James Clear?
Speaker 3:One of the things and we'll both answer this one the one thing I really appreciate my dad passed away three years ago. He instilled a lot of really simple behaviors, right, and I've told this story to you many times I wanted to get a new car, I wanted to get my first truck, right, a new car, right, um, he he was. You know what. You pay yourself 10 to 20% in savings off the top. He says, if you go save uh, I wanted to, I think I need $2,000. He says, if you save a thousand dollars, I'll match, uh, you know, a thousand dollars, right, real simple concepts. Hey, I will, I will. You know, you go to college and you keep a whatever the grade point average, I'll pay for you. Right, he had these really simple rules, right, but they were consistent and, um, those are some of the things that I really, um, like that. I'd like to continue.
Speaker 3:On the other hand, even though in some cases I wouldn't say my, my family always was super healthy, right, right, and um, you know, you know my dad, he kind of struggled with weight up and down and everything most of his life, um, and it wasn't for the lack of, I think, you know, necessarily, you know trying he would ride his bike, he would do different things like there. He just he wasn't super consistent. So if I kind of look at it, how do I pay attention to my health more and kind of break some of that cycle? And it wasn't like he was lazy or anything, I think it just. It just he never figured out the formula and I'm not saying I have the formula, but I'm trying to kind of somewhat break that cycle right there. So there's a lot of good things I learned from him on very simple, consistent things. In a lot of places I'm trying to apply those simple things into more of my consistency for health. So those are the things I'd like to.
Speaker 2:I was going to say, Darrell, I encourage you, and I know you journal already as well, but right now I had mentioned to you, before we got on here and started recording, that you're probably in your best shape. You've probably been in your whole life. I mean, you are really just peaking right now and I'm excited to see what you do at Death Ride. I know we were going to try to ride as a group, but I'm just going to say here on air man, I encourage you to go for your goals Because you are tomorrow is not promised to us and you have been massively consistent with your physical fitness and even your mental fitness for the last gosh, I would say year For the last year, something flipped and you've been on this mission and we went on our training ride on Sunday and I saw a side of you that was just it blew me away.
Speaker 2:It was just impressive, Very impressive. So log it. I encourage you to log that down. Go back, reflect, log that down, because there's a recipe in there and that's the kind of stuff you want to pass on to generations. There's definitely a recipe in there and I think part of your recipe is consistency and you definitely have changed that trajectory from what you were handed as far as the physical well-being.
Speaker 3:What about you? I know family is such a big part of, um, how we develop some of our things. What are some of the things that you see in that, uh, the things in your family story that, uh, you're repeating that you might want to tweak a bit?
Speaker 2:man? That's a big question, daryl, that's a deep question. I could get in trouble. Um so, growing up, family was always number one. That's what we were, that's what we were told. That's what we were told is family? Family comes first, right, but a lot of times, a lot of times, you know, it was the extent it was the extended family that came first. It wasn't the, the, the sons or daughters, it wasn't the sons or daughters, and I don't know if that was by design or what that was all about, but it was tough A lot of times.
Speaker 2:My siblings and myself again, I don't really want to speak for them, but sometimes you feel like, well, wait a minute, I thought family was first who's family? And so, don't get me wrong, we were well cared for, we were given all kinds of opportunities and we were very well blessed. But time, you know, I'll just go, I'll just say my dad my dad was, and my mom, they were both financially very successful, very successful. But from my perspective, from my individual perspective, they were very driven in their businesses and what I saw was that their businesses became their identity. That was their identity. And what I experienced I'm not saying my siblings did, I'm speaking for myself. What I experienced was that that identity. There comes a choice where you're choosing that over spending time with your kids.
Speaker 2:And again, like I said, I am not man. I had everything handed to me growing up. I had every privilege granted to me, I was well cared for, there was nothing. I ever needed nothing. However, I didn't see my dad a lot, nor did I see my mom a lot, and I think you know every child's desire isn't the financial wellbeing that your parents can provide, although a child doesn't know how important that is it's really just spending time with your child. And so, for me I know I'm gonna get my ass beat for saying all this stuff, but it is what it is, man, it is what it. I just gotta be me and I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2:For me, if I could go back, I would say I just want more time with you dad. I just want more time with you mom. I appreciate all the gifts, the cars, the money, the trips. All these things did was just to try to have more time with you or be seen by you, and so what I'm trying to, what I have tried to rewrite, was spend more time with my kids. You know, when I don't. My kids live in the Bay Area. That's over two hours away from where I live, and if they need me I go. And even if they don't need me, I go. I go just to hang out, to spend time, to be present when I can. Right now I'm in a situation where it's a little sticky and tough, but you know I still show up when I can. I don't, I don't mind doing that. So that's, that's the part I'm trying to rewrite. Was the presence, not the presence, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and this might be more longer than a 30 minute podcast Makes sense. Yeah, and this might be more longer than a 30 minute podcast. You know, I think being present is probably one of the biggest problems we have in our society today. Right, yes, I remember my grandparents when I was around them and they were present. What were they going to do? They're not going to watch TV, they're not. We'd sit outside. We do this. I think we've really lost that.
Speaker 3:An hour ago, before we jumped on to record this podcast, I was doing different work things. I had to go downtown Sacramento and I got home and I'm on a conference call. I was on video and Ava walks in and I think she's going to ask me a question or something else, and I kind of put my hand up. You know cause you're like put your hand up like out of reach, where the camera is like hey, I'm, I'm recording and uh, I I kind of said what to her. I was on mute and she whispered something, so I turned it off and she, she came up and gave up. She was. I just wanted to say hi and I love you. Oh, here I am putting my hand up, going.
Speaker 3:No, I don't know, don't come in. All I had to do is I had to click off the you know fricking video for one second in the mute and give her a hug, right, and um, you know, one of the things that she likes to do at night now every once in a while is she's like she's got, she's got. This bed is kind of a couch up and us watch YouTube together. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like 15, 20 minutes of YouTube with her and watch funny cat videos or some little thing like that or something else like that. It's like that's being present, maybe not, I'm not saying watching YouTube with your kid is being super present, but you're with them. Do you know what I mean? Right? Or how long does it take me to turn off video and everything else? So I agree with you and I think not only spending time, but what you said is present time, Be present with them.
Speaker 2:Right, and don't worry about getting them presents with the boat wrapped around it, just be present, be the gift. Be the gift with your time. Thank you for sharing that, daryl, because that kind of softens what I was saying a little bit. You have a great way of just framing things and that's exactly what I'm talking about. You know, it wasn't again. My mom and dad did extremely well financially, but me and, I think, many, many children, if not all children the real gift they want is time. They just want your time. They just want to be with you, whether you're drinking a beer, watching cat videos, just shooting the shit, playing around the golf, whatever, they just want time. That's it, and a lot of times we're well, I got to provide and I got to do this and I got to do that. And, and God, for who? Who are you doing it for? You know, and not that those things aren't important, but uh, don't neglect the actual uh, the gift of your presence. So great, great uh story. Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm going to get to the last, the third idea from James Clear. This one's a little long, so pay attention, lean in. All right, it says practice, the art of small daily discomforts. I'm going to repeat that because it's worth repeating. Practice the art of small daily discomforts.
Speaker 2:Modern life is optimized for convenience and comfort. Your food can be delivered straight to your door, your car seats can be heated, your favorite show is available at the press of a button. We all enjoy convenience and comfort, myself included, but our bodies and souls yearn for challenge. That I'm going to repeat as well. But our bodies and souls yearn for challenge. That I'm going to repeat as well. But our bodies and souls yearn for challenge. We want to be stretched. A deeper satisfaction awaits after pushing yourself to a learn a challenging concept or complete a humbling workout or have an important but difficult conversation.
Speaker 2:Should the whole day feel difficult? No, I don't think that's necessary. But a good day, a meaningful and fulfilling day, requires small moments of discomfort. Growth demands discomfort. I'm going to repeat that because it's worth repeating. Growth demands discomfort. I'm going to repeat that because it's worth repeating. Growth demands discomfort. We need something to push against, to learn how strong we can become. Like I said, that was a little long, but it's worth saying here on air every word. Darrell, when I read that, what was coming across your mind, across your heart?
Speaker 3:I read that. What was coming across your mind, across your heart? Yeah, lots of things. I wrote down a couple of things. I do think that the more you embrace discomfort, the more you get comfortable with it and the more it just becomes part of your life and then it doesn't seem as much of a discomfort, right? But overall, I wrote down three things. Um one, I don't let the weather dictate what I do.
Speaker 1:Hmm, I love that.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, oh, it's a little windy outside. Maybe I won't ride my bike today. Oh, it's too cold. I won't go to, you know, I, I just the weather. Is the weather right, it is what it is Right. So, yep, do you have to put an extra jacket on, or is it going to be windy? Is it going to be windy? Is it going to be rainy? You know it doesn't matter, you know they're right. The second thing, um, is uh, I'll just this week, uh, I was down at the gym and I was walking in.
Speaker 3:It was about uh 10 minutes till uh six and I didn't, I didn't really have a plan what I was gonna do, just because going down to the clubhouse to maybe lift some weights, and one of these guys, his name is Lynn, on Tuesdays and Thursdays they do a little hit class outside. Six of them. They bring weights, They've got sandbags, they've got kettlebells and they do a circuit and they do a mobility hit thing, wow, and it's about 40, 45 minutes. There's about five or six of them, and he's always invited me. But you know, and I looked outside and the first thing I said was, oh, it's kind of hot. And then I said you know what? Why not?
Speaker 3:You know, what I'm there to work out. I know it's going to be a little discomfort, I don't know what I'm going to do, just say yes. And the other thing is is I've been trying to make a list of things that I need to get done. Like I had to go, uh, trim some plants. I had to do something three or four things in the backyard and I said hell or high water, I was getting those done before death right this week I said you know, and and yep, one of them I had to do at five o'clock at night, in the middle of the heat.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, right? The other one I had to do at five o'clock at night, in the middle of the heat. You know what I mean, right? The other one, I had to do that. So I think, just overall, finding these little things, don't let the weather bother you, try some different things, even though it might be a little discomforting, right, um and just, I just don't want to have any of those. So I like those little discomforts on there and I'm just trying to kind of mentally plan. So those are kind of some of the ones that I've been thinking about and I've done over the last two weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome, and I'm with you on the exercise one for sure. You know, this morning, even every day, daryl, every day there, I don't think there's one day I wake up and say, oh, I can't wait to go do this hit or this boring zone to cycling that's, I'm telling you, daryl, the zone two cycling thing on my uh, my assault bike. That is the most boring, fricking thing in the world to stay in that slow zone and only stay in zone two. But you know I it's part of me says this is the stuff that makes you grow. This is, this is where you start seeing progress by showing up and doing the things you don't want to do, and so that's a daily practice for me, especially in the exercise area, but also with work, doing things, with connecting with clients or trying to drum up new clients, sending out emails to past, uh, potential new clients just to introduce um in in my auction and a life coach business. It's all you know. It's stuff you don't want to do, but you know you, you show up and you do it and it's that, and it goes back to your 10% as well. Yeah, right, and that's a huge factor in the whole thing. Just, man, okay. Well, man, I may not want to do a whole day's worth, but what if I just did 10% more right now? You're right, that's that, that much more I'm going to do than not, than than if I just gave up on the day. So that's that's where I kind of uh, that's when I read those things about being uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:The other thing about being uncomfortable is I was listening to there's a podcast I listened to called Catholic Saints, and I was listening to a story about Mother Teresa which you know and I've shared on this podcast before. That she's like my biggest hero, because talk about embracing discomfort. The story they told about her on this podcast was when she was opening up a house for the poor in San Francisco and they had to install a water heater. And if you know anything about Mother Teresa, she herself, like she's the one who cleans the toilets. She doesn't ask people to do that when she was alive anyways, she doesn't ask people to do that when she was alive anyways. She was the one who.
Speaker 2:I mean, she lived a very humble and a life of humility as an example, on purpose, on purpose, and she also demanded that from the sisters who wanted to join her organization. So much so that when she built this house for um, for the poor in san francisco, or she was having this house built in san francisco you have to have a water heater, otherwise it doesn't pass code, you don't get to pass permits. And so, um, they came in and she said this has got to go, she goes. Well, if, if we can't have, because she doesn't have. She never used hot water and she didn't allow any of her staff to use hot water, so they didn't, they didn't shower a lot, they used, they got a, they got a pail of cold water every day and that's what they got to wash their face, wash their body. So, and the reason was is because she, they immersed themselves, they wanted to experience what it was like to be poor. So, as they were serving the poor, they can serve from a place of complete empathy and understanding of like, I understand what you're feeling, but we're still going to feed you and we're going to clothe you and we're going to provide housing for you.
Speaker 2:But anyways, going back to the housing thing, she told him that has to go and the housing authority said, well, if we take that out, we can't pass code. And she goes. Well, you need to worry about whether we're going to help people or pass code. And you know, in Mother Teresa fashion, she passed, they got the house to pass without the water heaters, and she served a lot of people and to this day, even after her death, her organization serves many, many, you know, the least of the least, the poorest of the poor. And so, um, you know she understood the necessity in our souls for discomfort. You know we're brought into this world with nothing and, uh, you know so it's so, man, we live in a world that is so easy to be comfortable in and desire comfort and whine and beg and cry if we don't have hot water or if we don't have food delivered to our door. And so, you know, when I was reading that, that section from the James Clear thing, I was like, ah yeah, he would have been good friends with Mother Teresa. She understood that concept on a whole nother level, though on a whole, nother level. So there, I'm going to go ahead to his two quotes. I'm just going to read both quotes and then maybe we can comment on both of them as a whole, and then we'll move to the last thing. You know, in an effort to keep the this episode somewhat short Um.
Speaker 2:So two quotes, and these are from other people, these aren't from James Clear, these are from other people and I'll I'll mark where they're sourced from. So ancient philosopher Leozi reminds us of the power of acting early. So here's the quote deal with the difficult while is while it is yet easy. Deal with the great while it is yet small. So here's the quote and I'll repeat that again. That's the first quote. The second quote is from the essayist Charles Lamb, on generosity. The greatest pleasure I know is to do a good action by stealth and to have it found out by accident. I'll repeat that one more time, by Charles Lamb, on generosity the greatest pleasure I know is to do a good action by stealth and to have it found out by accident. So anything from those two quotes, daryl, that kind of resonate with you or you want to just kind of give some feedback.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the first one, I think, is super important. You know, um they talk about when you have anxiety and stress or you have different things in your life. One of the biggest ways to get out of it is start to act. You're moving forward something, even if it's a small thing. We've got this thing at work. It's like, um, the body doesn't smell better the next day, Right? Um, it's like, hey, if you've got a problem and it's going to smell, it's going to smell worse the second day. So you just got to be comfortable with dealing. And it says deal with difficulty, why it's easy. Maybe deal with the body, why it's not so smelly. Right, you know what I mean. So I just I think that's it and it doesn't have to. You have to solve everything. I don't think it says you have to solve everything. You have to start to take action. I think that's just one of our things. Procrastination is not a good thing there. I mean that. That's that. That's one Um. And then I love the second one.
Speaker 3:You know some of the greatest. You hear about a lot of people way after the fact, like athletes or rich people, that do unbelievable acts of kindness, right, right, they're not looking for anything. They're not looking for anything, and sometimes you do find out them afterward. You know what I mean by accident and everything else there, right, but yeah, you shouldn't do it just to just to boast. But yeah, what are your thoughts? Those are two really awesome ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm kind of like parallel with you or in line with your thinking as well, as you know the, the dealing with the difficult things or the great things. While they're small, you know, and it's real easy to think, well, it's way too big right now, but I promise you, if you don't deal with it, it's going to be even bigger tomorrow, or at least it's going to. You know, the crazy thing, daryl, is it's not actually going to get any much bigger than it is. That's all in your head, you know. So you're. It's going to build up in your head, though that's the and that's the hardest part to get through. That's the hardest breakthrough is in your head. You know what's that old saying you are your biggest obstacle.
Speaker 2:I remember going to a Tony Robbins conference and he said progress is happiness and it doesn't have to be massive progress, it just has to be that one phone call or that one small action making progress towards the goal. Just do something towards the goal, no matter how small, and you'll, in that moment when you're making progress, when you make that one phone call or write down that one list or do that one small action that took barely any effort, you're actually going to feel psychologically like, oh okay, I'm making progress and you'll feel a sense of happiness, a sense of joy in that moment. So progress equals happiness from Tony Robbins. And then the second one the greatest pleasure I know is to do good action by stealth and to have it be found out by accident. Yeah, I think, like you said, I think a lot of people do stuff massively and quickly and not realize the happiness and joy they find. You know, find out through doing that until that much later. You know.
Speaker 2:So, just when something seems like it's a good thing to do or feels like it's a good thing to do, you should probably just do it. Just do it. You know. If it's that homeless person, you're like, ah, you know, I got that extra buck, let me give it to him. Or and and and you know, we got that whole mindset around. Uh, or not everyone, but a lot of people have a mindset around they could get a job or they could do this, and that. You know it's not about that. Just if you can be generous, be generous. It's about you in that moment. It's about you in that moment. So just do the action.
Speaker 3:I'm going to date ourselves and you will totally relate to this.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Remember when you were used to be at work and you actually had a phone on your desk.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, and I remember a manager. Do you remember that feeling? My managers talked about it. Hey, that phone's not going to get any lighter. The next day when you got to pick up the phone and dial someone a client, a customer or something else and have to have a conversation that you've been dreading and you're at your desk and you're looking at your phone and you don't want to pick it up, and if it feels like it's 300 pounds and you know, when you put it off till the next day, that phone gets heavier, yeah, right, when you pick it up that day it's still hard and everything else. I always think about the phone. The whole generation. They don't even understand what it is to look at a phone.
Speaker 2:They don't know what a 100-pound phone looks like. They don't understand what a 100-pound phone?
Speaker 3:No, they won't get that. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's a great practice. So again, we were kind of weaving in some summer tips. So in there in our conversation I hope people have been hearing and picking up some tips to get through the summer things that might have kept you stuck. But that's a great example, daryl is. I remember I was doing a I had subscribed to this Tony Robbins thing where you had to do these actions that he laid out for you and it was all to just find progress and be free and release your psyche of all the mental garbage that was holding you bound and chained. And I remember I had to make a few phone calls and, man, that phone was weighing a thousand pounds. And it's so funny because every time I made the call and had that really, really hard conversation, I discovered and rediscovered multiple times that I was my biggest obstacle. Everyone on the other side was like, oh, dude, don't even worry. I wasn't even thinking about that, it was all in my mind, but it felt good for me to let it go. And so if there's people out there who need to take some massive action in small ways to start freeing up that mental space, stop renting out your mind to those unwanted thoughts or those unforgiving thoughts. You know, take some massive action, man. Give me or Daryl a call, we'll help you out. We'll get on your side, we'll walk you through it. Talk you through it.
Speaker 2:All right, daryl, there's a question I know you always give. You have the quote card thing or the question thing you've been doing lately. But James Clear gives us a question. He gives us a question and I'm going to, you know, I'm going to just be transparent here. His question is kind of specific. I'm going to broaden it a little bit and change it just a little bit. So what are you still holding on to mentally that's hogging your mental real estate and needs to be let go of? We all have something that is just burdensome to us and sometimes we let it go by drinking, or sometimes by, you know, gossiping, or sometimes by exercise. Even you know, like I'm gonna go do this instead, because something is robbing our mental real estate and we need to let go of it. So I don't know if there's anything on your mind. I mean you, you're in a pretty good place right now, daryl, so I don't know if you've had time to kind of think about it but, I wrote a couple of things down.
Speaker 3:Um, I think one of the things is I want to just to some degree remove the concept of having limits or fear. And I give an example um, we got a couple 10ks, um, I mean, uh, yeah, a couple 10ks. We got wharf dwarf coming up in a something else, but later in the year, um, you know, I really want to run under a one hour 10k. Right, it shouldn't be too bad, but I want to. Part of me is like, oh man, that's going to be hard and all this stuff, as much as I've. You know, I'm, oh, yeah, right, but it's just that that limits. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean right, right.
Speaker 3:I've been listening to this podcast and it's called distance to empty and all these crazy runners doing crazy things, all this. But the concept is, hey, have you found your distance to empty? Right? And the idea is how, if we all put limits, oh I can only do a marathon or I can only do this. So I'm just trying to get the limits out of my system and say I'm going to do as much as I can and, whatever that is, I'm going to be happy with it. So I'm trying to get the limits concept. When we go into this weekend, I'm going to go and go real hard, whatever it turns out to be it turns out to be. But I'm not going to go in there and say I'm going to limit myself. So I just trying to try to knock out some of those artificial limits that can get put in your brain.
Speaker 2:So you're going to go to empty this weekend?
Speaker 3:I'm going to go as hard as I can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you'll be empty at the finish line. If you're not, I'm going to make you go back up monitor, oh shit, so you better ride hard, because I know you. Yeah, for me, daryl, it's more of a. You know, thinking back earlier in the in this episode I was talking about, you know just way we were raised and family, and you know family comes first and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:I think for me it's just, uh, I need to take some time to kind of reflect on you know what? What are those things that are holding me back, that that I'm giving real estate to? That don't serve me. That just don't serve me. That just don't serve me. You know because and again, not that I was intentionally given bad information or wrong information or hurtful information or information that wasn't meant to serve me.
Speaker 2:But you know every human being has to understand that we perceive things differently. You know I don't perceive things like my brothers or like my sister or like my dad, and and that's okay, that's okay. Maybe that's what I'm letting go of is that I need to see things like the rest of my family. You know that's okay, that I can look at him Doug's way and be okay and be a good person and be whole. Um, but that's something I struggled with for years was to be whole, because I constantly compared myself to the way my dad viewed things, the way my brothers viewed things, the way my sisters viewed things. And when you do that, you don't get to view things your way, your way, and it's okay. I'm 59 years old. It's okay that I'm discovering this shit at 59, you know better 59 than 89. So it's all good, it's all good. But, uh, great episode there. I kind of like this man just kind of going off the off the coattails of uh.
Speaker 3:James Clear.
Speaker 2:I love it, I love it yeah we'll have to throw that in again on on another episode. But our next episode is going to be, uh, we're going to be recapping, uh, death ride, because the episode before this was with the team and talking about what we were going to do. So we'll have to recap death ride and then episode after that. I want to bring ted back on and and see how that challenge went, because I don't know if I'm ready for all the walking he's got planned for me. But we'll see how it goes. Sounds good, but that's it. But for now, any last thoughts comments?
Speaker 3:Nope, wonderful, great episode. Really excited about this weekend, summertime Going to have a great July.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes. So if you feel stuck, no-transcript.