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Two guys and an occasional guest breaking open topics on: Purpose, Energy, Attitude, Commitment and Health through shared experiences.
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S4EP09: There Is No Finish Line
A simple sign flipped our perspective: there is no finish line. Not as a threat, but as a quiet promise that health, purpose, and progress don’t end at a medal or a milestone. We go back to our Peach roots—purpose, energy, attitude, commitment, health—and unpack how a longevity mindset changes the way we train, work, and show up for the people we love.
We talk about the trap of quick fixes and why they fade once the event is over, and we trade them for small, repeatable habits that build a life you can carry for decades. That means redefining success when plans go sideways, choosing consistency over perfection, and designing weeks that flex around travel, schedules, and stress. We share practical strategies: planning before you’re on the road, celebrating small wins to build momentum, and using run-walk intervals or conversational pacing to keep injuries at bay. The goal isn’t to crush every workout—it’s to keep moving next year and ten years from now.
The conversation gets personal: how identity-based habits—“I’m a runner,” “I’m a healthy person”—pull better choices from us even on hard days. We cover the foundations that make training sustainable: quality sleep, hydration, simple nutrition, stress management, and a routine that’s portable across seasons of life. When your identity aligns with your actions, the work feels less like a grind and more like a promise you’re proud to keep.
If the finish line keeps moving, maybe that’s good news. It means we get to keep writing the story. Tune in, get practical tools to start small today, and share this with someone who’s ready to trade all-or-nothing for always-becoming. If this resonated, subscribe, leave a review, and tell us your next small win.
Welcome back to Peach Podcast. And this week we've got some cool stuff that's going to bring us back to our roots, Daryl. It's going to bring us back to our roots. Remember Peach. I used to say if you want to know what Peach means, go back to episode one. And it's an actual acronym. But I'm just going to tell you, I'm going to give you a little cheat sheet right now. Peach is an acronym for purpose, energy, attitude, commitment, and health. And I got to say, Daryl, you've been doing some things at work and you've been doing so, you did a backward backyard ultra with Eric last weekend. And you've been talking about some mindset shifts and and and actually heart set shifts that have been happening with you. And you sent over some topics and some things that you want to kind of unpack here on this episode. And I saw it and I'm like, dude, this is like our roots, bro. We gotta, we definitely gotta jump on this. So without further ado, Daryl, why don't you uh give us a little teaser or intro? How how do you want to frame this episode?
SPEAKER_01:We were doing our first official backyard ultra, Eric and I like the official with the rules and the the chip and all the different things, and we got to about mile 30, right? Right. And it was starting to get hard, right? And you're lining up in the corral to head out for mile 30 to 34. And the guy on the mic said, Hey, we got 30 seconds when when you when you guys go out, go out and you you go through this little uh about 50 yards out, kind of a a little bit of an overpass. He says, Look up and read the sign. And so just about where it started to get kind of hard and people were starting to drop out. So we went out and we went out, and the sign said, There is no finish line. Oh, I love it. So you read it, and some people jumped up and tapped it, you know, like you like you see athletes going tap the sign, or you know, I think the Irish players, when they run out of the locker room, they go hit some sign, some Irish thing, and like tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. So people did that. We did that. And I got admit, Doug. I thought about that. There is no finish line. Cool, it's a phrase. I think we talked about it. Hey, I it's not a new phrase. I think people have talked about it in the past, maybe even like like one of the athletic brands, maybe Nike has had it, but overall, but man, Doug, it got me to thinking there is no finish line.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and you know what, Daryl, it's had that, like you said, that that quote's been around for a while, but I really want to unpack like this had an impact on you this this last weekend. And so go ahead, man.
SPEAKER_01:I I know I cut you off, but so no, no, it did, it did, and so part of me was like, But I want there to be a finish line, I want to be finished with something, Doug, and I want to rest. I don't want to live by my laurels, and I want people to be like, Oh, you're so great, and just relax and go chill out for a while, and then all of a sudden you're like, But Doug, it's life, dude. There is no finish line, man, right? I love you go to sleep, you wake up the next day and you start it all over again, right? Yes. Um, so there's part of me that wanted there to be a finish line, and the other was like, I got it, right? Yeah, and um, so it really kind of had an impact on me, and I had a big work event, um, you know, kind of getting back a cut like about two weeks ago, and it was just awesome, and it went it went great, Doug. It went great. It was this big work thing, big milestone. We celebrated, we celebrated for a couple days, and by the end of the week, guess what? We started to look to the next milestone. Yeah, and I said, dude, there is no finish line. So I by the way, I've used this in multiple things. I've used no finish line in my work uh with some of my uh recovery brethren, uh, with uh Team Peach and everything else. But when I really thought back to the roots, Doug, it gets back to there's no finish line. You better have a good purpose, right? So I think what we're gonna do today is one, I'd like to hear what your kind of let's define what it means to both of us. And then I think we wrote down three to four topics that we want to discuss. So um, I've kind of already defined what it means to me. One is it's a little bit daunting, there is no finish line, right? And then also it's life. And you know what? You get up the next day, you get up the next morning, the next week, the next uh month, and everything else. And if you don't stay consistent, right, you're gonna have some fall-off. So that's kind of what it means to me, Doug. But I want to kind of hear what does uh there is no finish line mean to you?
SPEAKER_04:You know, that concept kind of fell on my heart and has been percolating and unfolding and marinating and growing um ever since I've been talking about longevity. And when I started getting into the topic of longevity, uh and a lot of credit to Peter Atia, and I forget what name his book was, but you know, the the light bulbs were just going off like flashbulbs everywhere, man, in my brain. I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. And it really started redefining and reshaping, you know, just the things I signed up for. And I don't know if the if Team Peach noticed, but you know, the I I remember signing up for certain things like Death Ride, right? Like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go crush this shit and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And and over the, I think last year was like, you know what, I'm just gonna show up. And uh, you know, and I think JR said it best. He goes, you know what, I'm gonna do the best I can, and wherever I end up is wherever I end up. He wasn't committed to finishing, he was just committed to doing the best he can. And I think that's part of the no finish line mentality. It's uh it's just there is this constant and this consistency that lives inside that statement. And I'll tell you, Daryl, if if I was to uh approach every event, every time I exercise, like the first time I did Death Ride or the first time I did any event, which with which was that I'm gonna crush this shit mentality, if I did all of them like that, and everything like that, man, I'd be worn out. And I and I and to be honest with you, it's probably one of the biggest reasons why I have uh that that nagging foot injury, which by the way is getting better. And and I don't know if you noticed, but I'm running now. I ran eight miles last weekend, I ran 10 miles uh last night, and uh it's still there's still a little tenderness and all that stuff, but you know what? I'm working through it with the there is no finish line mindset. You know, I'm not out there trying to run super fast, I'm trying to run comfortably and watching my gait and my uh form. And it's you know, that's for me, no finish line is directly tied to longevity. And when you start putting goals for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years out there, all of a sudden, how you approach everything in front of you starts shifting slowly. And it's hard, Daryl. I, you know, Daryl, you know me, I got a little bit of an ego, I got some vanity, I got all that shit going on. It's so it's hard to let go of, but I used to run this pace before, and I used to, you know, I used to run this distance before. And but uh man, there's some there's a lot of uh spiritual and emotional maturity that's going on over the last uh gosh, several months or maybe a year and a half regarding this whole topic. So, but that that's a little bit about where I'm at with it all. And and what where where are you, Daryl? Like what do you want to add to this?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think the a couple of things we looked at. I think there's this bit of um, you know, health and fitness is about kind of you know ongoing commitments, not destinations. Yes, we got a lot of cool destinations, right? Right, right. Um, the one thing that's funny, you see those things on social media, other places they talk about, you know, when people cheer you, Doug, at the start line and the finish line. And that start line and finish line is generally less than one percent of your total effort, right? And it's everything in the middle that nobody sees, you know, and I think that's a good way to go look at it. And um, you know, I think the reality is how can you embrace kind of lifelong change that's empowering, not daunting? And I guess if I kind of think about it, Doug, part of I think what we're doing is for lack of a better Doug, we're in the game. Yes, there's a lot of people that used to be in the game talk about the old time on the game. I just want to stay in the game.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, you want to last, and you want to be but you you don't want to just be in the game, you want to be a game.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to be in the game, I always want different things, but I do know, and you do know, and you really taught me a lot about this, and uh it's there. If you're in the game, you might not see you know the the you know the PRs, but it's funny, Doug. You take a you take a step back. We used to ride and then we'd stop at your garage, we download Strava, and we count how many PRs we had. Oh, I remember, yeah. Like now we have them. We're like, oh, that's cool, right? We don't even talk about that, right? It's just about it's about you know, how was that that felt good, that felt this, and everything else. I just want to continue to stay in the game, and uh every once in a while you want to have those nice moments where you're kind of challenging yourself. So that's kind of what it means to us, and I think it means something to everybody else. Um, like I said, I've used this phrase, it was about two, I guess two weeks ago, um, there, and I've used this quite a bit. There is no finish line in a lot of different settings. It's been good.
SPEAKER_04:So um you were saying you use that now, you're using it, you were using it at work with your team, using it with the your recovery brothers and sisters and stuff out there, and uh using it in your home. Yeah, we were using it on the podcast. This is not necessary, this is not tied to just running in a back yard ultra. This is this is a life lesson, and it's a big one, and I'm so glad we're unpacking it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. And so a couple of things we uh we talked about, so we're gonna unpack a couple of these. Um, one of the big things when you think about this is the difference between that lifelong commitment over quick fixes. Oh, the quick fixes, yeah, right. Um, I had an executive that explained uh to me one time we were uh we were starting a project at work, and he explained your uh four weeks, there's there's two kinds of change. One of the changes you're you're four weeks out from your 20-year high school reunion, and you're gonna cut back and you're gonna start running and doing push-ups because you want to look better in four weeks, right? For that high school reunion.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I know it's versus we all know it, man.
SPEAKER_01:You can't be hiding from it, people you can't be doing, you suck your suck it in a little bit, you're doing some push-ups before you go to bed, you know, you're you're putting away that snack and everything else, trying to look good there, yeah. Right. And you might take a quarter inch off versus what you might do for the long term, right? So right, so I think it's the difference between what's a lifelong commitment are you just trying to do something to get ready for your next high school reunion, right? Yeah, so um anyway, so let's let's talk about that. You go first.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so yeah, so lifelong commitment versus over quick fixes. I think one of the the benefits of just that mindset or that that concept or that sentence is that uh I believe getting into that mindset and and that approach, you know, you're gonna avoid less injury as well. You're gonna avoid injuries, you know, and so that I think that's a benefit of taking that approach or that strategy because you're it's gonna force you to slow down. You can't sprint everything, Daryl. You know, if you're doing a lifelong commitment, everything can no longer be a sprint. There are gonna be moments for sprints, there's gonna be moments for quick bursts, and you know what? To be honest, there's gonna be moments for quick fixes. You know, there's gonna be moments to pivot, to shift, have that quick little adjustment to get you back on course for the longevity, for the life, for the lifelong commitment part. But uh I I love that, you know, Darrell, working with uh clients in in weight loss, you know, I've been doing that for oh gosh, I think over 10 years now. And you know, one of the things that I was taught by one of my mentors was you know, make sure you ask your clients this question. You know, when you reach your goal weight, now what? Because when people used uh used the program that I had, they always, when they when they followed the the the script to the T, they always lost weight, they always felt good, they always had great energy, and they always, always got to their goal weight. But then they didn't know what to do afterwards. They didn't they never adopted the lifestyle, they never adopted new habits, they just relied on the quick fix to fix something externally instead of working on something internally. And so, you know, it reminds me of that, you know, the lifelong commitment over quick fixes is like, hey, I can help you lose weight, you know, and if it's just for a quick fix, if you just want a quick fix for a wedding or something, and and you're honest with yourself, great. But most people I ask, do you want to keep the weight off after your wedding? They're like, Well, yeah. I said, Okay, well, that's that's a different approach. You're still gonna lose the weight, but it's a different approach. And so that's what this this kind of reminds me of. Uh, you know, again, it's not just running, it's not just riding, it's it's a way of life. It's it's a way of life.
SPEAKER_01:I I I will um I I could hit on this, but um, I I will get a little bit more personal. I gotta admit, um, my wife, Josephine, your uh your sister, man, I'll tell you what, you know, hopefully she does or doesn't listen to this, it depends. She's one of my biggest sources of inspiration right now, right? Yeah. Um, you know, she used to uh with uh with Jamie, we'd have a uh a trip, a vacation, you know. Hey, we're going to um Jamaica, or we were uh going to um you know, some destination, right? Yeah, it'd be about four or four months out and they would go, Okay, let's get on our Jamaica. Like everybody does that. You get on your thing and they would do really good and they would get a little bit better shape, and their bathing suits would fit a little better and they'd feel a little bit better, and they they get to vacation, they felt good, right? They feel good, right? But it was for that point-to-point. Josephine, um, as you know, first of all signed up for the uh um the the 10K. Uh and since then she's on, I don't know, four or five of those. Um, she just did her first half marathon. Uh she's got, I think, two more that she signed up for and something else like this. But right now, her next one is not until like January, the end of January. Right. She, after her half marathon, she took three days off and started running. And that's not who Josephine was. No. Josephine was a she would do things for this, you know, three, four, five months, take a few months off, whatever it was, and then she would kind of start up. And she she always said I needed motivation. She just, it just kind of something clicked.
SPEAKER_04:It definitely clicked, dude. I mean, it's it's a trip because you're right, Daryl. I you if you look listen back, maybe to even some of our earlier podcast episodes, she's clearly on there. Um, maybe not on the episode, but behind the scenes, like, no, I don't, she wasn't like had nothing to do with running. Like, you guys go ahead, have a good time. Not only is she running, but you know, when I talk to her sometimes, she just she talks about not just the physical, but the mental part of it all and her language and her priorities without even saying anything. Like, you could see just the what she's talking about and what's prioritized and how she's talking about has completely shifted. And it's beautiful to see. It's beautiful, you know, the the mental stuff she gets from it, the physical stuff she gets from it. It's when you stick with it and and her approach, Daryl, man, what an approach. Because she didn't go for the all-out balls to the wall approach. You know, she stayed in her lane. She's been doing uh what's called the Jeffing technique where you run a certain amount of minutes and walk a certain amount of minutes, which I did last night for the first time on a 10-mile run. And dude, I came home and I texted Joseph and I said, Man, I can't, I can't believe I haven't been training running much. I can't believe I just ran 10 miles and I feel like I can continue on running. Like my legs today, my legs aren't sore or tired. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. So I think uh her approach and what's happening to her mentally and physically is definitely in this lane of there is no finish line. This is a lifestyle for her.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I think um good, she's a great example of more of the the the and it there's nothing wrong with quick fixes and getting focused and doing things and short bursts and everything else there, but I think the lifelong commitment is really what the the the comment of uh there is no finish line. The other one, which is a really common one, is the all or nothing. Oh yeah, right. Um, by the way, I mean, how many times you think, oh, I'm gonna go crush these three workouts this week and everything else, and you know, and I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna see like like I think somehow we are we are all or nothing. And when that first thing sets in, right? Yeah, um, to me, the all in or all or nothing leads for me to a lot of sabotage. Big time, you know, big time because you you don't have anything in the you you're either you're either black, you're white. And I hate to say life is a little bit gray, dark, a little bit gray white, but if you can't roll with the punches, and um, I think this is a big thing. And I I I mean we don't need to talk about it, but you know, there's history upon history of how many people join gyms in January, all the different things there, but that all or nothing trap is is really, really hard. And the end of the day, Doug, life is going to come up and punch you in the face. And the question is just how you handle it. Life gets busy, right? Right? So can you adapt to nothing else? So maybe you don't hit your four workouts a week, but you hit two. Yes, you know what? And next week you get back to there. But um, I don't know, something about our brains and Doug, man, we when we lock in on something, I think a lot a lot of us start with the all or nothing. If I don't hit my four times a week, why am I gonna do anything? And um, so so this is a big one. This is a big one. I think we all struggle with it. Um, I think uh over the last four to five years, I've got a lot more consistent. Um, but even I find myself kind of setting unrealistic expectations of the all or nothing, right? Um, but that but that's me, but I I'm I'm getting over it. But I think this is the biggest one I see.
SPEAKER_04:You know, there's a here, I got a great story of all or nothing and how when you shift that mindset, it just changes your whole world. But uh you you remember Ted, Ted and my friend that I do the birthday challenges with. He had a friend um reach out to him who was struggling with snacking and and wanted to lose weight, and um was eating there was candy at work and all that stuff. And I guess it was around Halloween time. So this was just a few weeks back or what or whatnot. And she reached out to him, or somehow they connected, and she was telling him, like, you know, man, this is so hard, you know. I can't, if I just have a piece of candy, you know, it's always here, and just she was just describing all the reasons why it was so hard for her not to eat the candy, and that she really wanted to lose weight and wanted to start exercising. She really wanted to shift into a healthy lifestyle. But her mind, Daryl, as Ted was talking to me, you know, you can see her mind was trapped in the all-or-nothing story. And Ted, I that's what I love about Ted. He's he's very brilliant, he's very, you know, no bells and whistles, he just tells it to you like it is, and the dude has a profound impact on people. But he said to her, he goes, Well, I'll tell you what, just don't eat the candy for one day. He didn't say, Don't do the rest of your life, he didn't say, you know, do it for don't do it for a week and then go for a walk. He he just said, Don't do it for one day. That's it. And dude, he got a call from her later on down the road or something that not only did she not do it that one day, but she continued to not eat the candy. And I I believe there's more to the story where she started, uh Ted, I'm sorry if I I'm messing this all up, but the story, it was I remember when Ted was telling me it was there was a profound effect that this lady is now her trajectory has shifted and it changed. She's not eating the candy, she's losing weight, she might even be exercising and doing all kinds of stuff because she got rid of that all or nothing yeah mentality and you know was guided a little bit by Ted right there. And so, yeah, when we have that all or nothing mentality, sometimes we don't even start, you know. We don't we don't even try to to not do something for one day or go for a walk for one day, you know, just just walk today. You don't have to do it tomorrow, just walk today. Yeah, you know, yeah, definitely good stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I think a couple of the things, um, you know, I'm a massive fan of Ed Millette. Um, and he's got the uh the whole concept of you know, uh, but one more, uh, one more day, one more meal, one more rep. How do you combat that? But um also a couple of things that um I've really focused on, Doug, and I think you know that um is um is having a plan. So like I start to think through, hey, when I gotta travel for work or when I have a vacation, you know, don't wait till you're there to have a plan. So when I think about some of the strategies of getting from the all or nothing is a little bit, how do I build in some flexibility? How do when my routine is off, right? Because our routines do get off. Hey, guess what? Life is pretty easy when you're on your routine and nothing stops, right? You know what I mean? You can kind of roll with it. But but for me is I actually start to plan, um, plan around it. You know, hey, I'm gonna be traveling to Houston. Um, okay, guess what? Um, I think I can get to the gym these uh these two days. Um, I suppose to run twice um why I was there. You know what? I probably can't, but I'm gonna run once, right? So give myself a little bit of grace, yes, but also I think planning. But um, you know, the affirmation and small wins, and the small win is guess what? I traveled and guess what? I got to run in this week.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Or I traveled and I I was able to find some time at the gym, you know, and everything else, or whatever that is. But I think overall, um, if you are super rigid, you're gonna struggle. So I think affirmation of small wins, and for me personally, planning ahead of time helps me.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. You know, that's a great segue into uh into the next topic, Daryl, is uh how do you keep things sustainable, right? Because like I said earlier, I if I get you to your goal weight, that's great. But the last thing you want to do is in two or three months be back to your you know, heavy weight again, and then even and then some, you know. So how do we get to your goal weight and keep you there so that it's no longer an effort, it's just who you are. Um, and you've I think you mentioned it in your strategy with the uh the affirmation for small wins is just the flexibility, you know. Yeah, you wanted to run twice, but you you know, you said he could, hey, if I get one in, I'm good. And you gave yourself grace. But uh talk to me about sustainable health and and fitness strategies. What what else? Because that was one you just nailed it right there. What else you got in your your tool bag?
SPEAKER_01:I think uh it's funny. Eric and I were on a run yesterday and we both talked about um, you know, little things. Um for me, and I we we've we've chatted about this, being physically healthy is much more than exercise. A lot of our my daily habits, hey, am I getting enough water? Am I getting enough sleep? Um, Eric and I one time, we both he was taking eight different supplements. I was taking nine. Guess what, Doug? We're down to our our basic three, right? Right. And I don't know, it's nothing wrong when I was doing nine, but there's nothing wrong. But I have a routine and I stick with it. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I I really truly believe that there's as much focus on health around nutrition, around hydration, around living intentionally in stress management. And by the way, I also, Doug, need exercise. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but exercise is I don't know, man. It's maybe a third, right? I mean, but you can exercise, but if you're not having good nutrition, if you're not hydrated, if you're not, you know, focusing on being stressed and not having those things. So to me, some of the things I really try to do is make sure I have a more balanced approach. Every once in a while, Doug, recently, because uh I've had some uh a bit more of a travel and everything else there, I had to go back and say to myself, Doug, I I when I sleep well, I'm more healthy. Right. And I was starting to sleep less and be off and everything else. So I think there's some practical examples of a more balanced approach rather than uh, and to me, the balance helps me be sustained, yeah, for me, right there. You know what I mean? And uh I know that I can't sit there and just go, hey, I'm doing these three things, but guess what? My nutrition's crap and I'm not sleeping good. That's not gonna be sustainable to me. So um, so every once in a while you got to check myself because there's gonna be different stages of your life that you need to manage. So those are some of the things making sure when um I focus on a more of a balanced approach, and it's not just about the physical exercise portion.
SPEAKER_04:I love that. I've I I think of six words that come to mind about uh sustainable health and fitness strategies. And number one, and you too you said them earlier, is these six words flexibility, grace, flexibility, grace, and don't quit. Right? And I and you notice I use flexibility and grace for you know twice each because that's how important they are. Because in this world, you are gonna come up against way more obstacles than you're gonna have opportunities to do what you really want to do. And that's when flexibility and grace are gonna be so important because if you don't have flexibility and grace, you're gonna say, ah, fuck it. You know, see, I couldn't get my two runs in, so I'm not even gonna run. But if you sprinkle in flexibility and grace a couple times into your mind, you know, you won't quit. You'll say, Hey, well, you know what? I'm gonna get one run, and I'm cool with that. And that stuff compounds, and it's it's like compound interest. Over time with consistency, it'll build, it'll build. And it doesn't, I don't say over time with perfection, I say over time with consistency, you know, and consistency means means, hey, if you were supposed to work out five times this week and you only got in three, that's consistent, man. You're working out, you're good, right? If you got in two, that's good. If you got in one, that you got in at one time this week, you're good. You're doing something, you're moving towards because you got the rest of your life, right? What did we talk to? Lifelong goals, right? Lifelong.
SPEAKER_01:The things I think back on was um when you uh gave Josephine that uh couch 10K, right? Oh yeah. Um, that was start small. Yep, right? Start small. I think the first time she went out, I think she went out for 10 minutes, 10 or 12 minutes. Yes, something like there. Uh start small, right? Celebrate progress, right? I think along the way, um, you know, before you hit to that half marathon or marathon, you you gotta celebrate some progress. Um adapt to change, you know, life's gonna hit you in the face, you gotta do that. And just like we talked about, just focus on consistency. Right. Um, you know, if I look at uh I'll just take my, you know, my my wife is gambling, she's she's only been on this for like a year and a half.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01:Think about that. A year and a half, yeah, right. And focus on consistency, and it it it it does, but yeah, I and I don't know what the magic number is, Doug. You know, is it 90 days, is it 120 days, or something else? But if you just be consistent, give yourself some grace, adapt to change, celebrate um progress, and start small, right? All of a sudden you're gonna turn around and you're gonna be unrecognizable.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I love that, Darryl. I love I you know, the uh I guess the the the last point I will make, and this is I this might be a deeper point, it might be a hard point to grasp mentally, but it's what I did when I uh when I started running, you know, I just shifted my identity. I literally started telling myself I'm a runner. Because before I did that, Daryl, you remember you and I tried to run a couple years before that, and and and every year I would give up. I'd like, I'm not a runner, I just need to keep cycling and I'm gonna lift weights. And you know, I I never claimed that identity. But the moment I said, you know what, I am a runner. I'm just a runner, and runners get hurt, runners have setbacks, and so every time it hurt and every time it set back, I man, I did everything I could to scrape, scream, and hang on to my identity as a runner and saying, okay, now I'm a runner with a setback. Now I'm a runner with an injury, now I'm a runner who doesn't want to get up in the morning and go for a fucking run because it's raining outside. But I'm a runner, and the more I kept doing that, the more uh I just started naturally showing up. It wasn't always easy, but eventually, and like you said, I don't know if it was the fifth time, the fiftieth time, the five hundredth time, but eventually I believed it. And even to this day, Daryl, I identify, even though as we know, and a lot of our listeners know, I've been on the sidelines running um from running because of the foot thing, but now I'm back in it, and it's been a arduous, freaking painful, slow. You know, we we don't like to wait, man. But I learned so much in this process, and I'm so grateful. And and again, I'm not. 100% there right now. And but I'm I'm still a runner and I'm back into running. I've got 10 miles in last night and I feel so freaking great. And my sister, your wife, who wanted nothing to do with running, remember her joke? How do you spell run? What what? How do you spell run backwards? Nur. She goes, Nerd, thank you. I don't want to run. You know, and now she's signing up for events before her uh her events are you know are over. And so it's like she's got her shit lined up and ahead of time, and it's you know, because something shifts if you just keep showing up. And Josephine's a runner. And I don't even know if she knows that yet, but she's a runner, you know, and that if you can work on your identity, if you can just claim it and find ways to just say that's who I am, in any kind of part of your life, I'm a healthy person. I eat healthy shit. That's what healthy people do. You know, you still might find yourself wolfing down some pizza and whatnot, but if you keep telling yourself you're a healthy person and you keep showing up and trying, it's gonna shift. Just be consistent, not perfection, consistent. And over time, with that consistency, that shift will happen. So that's my two cents to close this out, Daryl. Anything, anything else you want to add? Uh go Niners. Go Niners. Doug and I are uh Doug and I was breaking leaves. I didn't get to see the game.
SPEAKER_01:And what was the score? Oh, it was a lot too a little, and it was us on top. That's all I know. And uh Doug and I are recording on the Sunday night. That's only a good thing if the Niners win. Purdy's back. How did he look? Did you see? Did you watch the game? I did, I did.
SPEAKER_04:Did he look like he was uh back and and was he rust knocking Rust off, or was he good?
SPEAKER_01:He had uh I think his second second drive, he was three for three to Kittle for a touchdown, and it was like, ooh, who's this? So that's the guy we know, right? That's the guy I was that's our purry that we paid a lot of money to. So no, he looked really nice. He looked really good.
SPEAKER_04:And what a what a great time for him to come back in his hometown.
SPEAKER_01:I know right in his hometown, Arizona boy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he is Arizona, but I went by, I'd seen his uh his high school when I was over there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_04:In springtime, yeah. But that's good. Daryl, thanks for uh, you know, what I love about this podcast, brother. I'm just gonna shout you out because something touched your heart, and you led from there, and you you dropped down some amazing topics in an email to me. And man, my heart leapt. It was like, damn, this is this is where we started. You know, this is our roots. This was this episode was about purpose, energy, attitude, commitment, and health. And you can just hear it woven through every part of everything we just said. So thank you for following your heart on this, brother. And uh let's close it up like we always do, man. God bless and each out.