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S4EP11: Inside CIM, First Marathon Mindset & Big Lessons
What happens when a lifelong lifter turns himself into a runner and an ultra guy finally toes the line at a road marathon? We dive into a full, unfiltered walk-through of the California International Marathon—why 26.2 felt worth the leap, how the training actually fit into real life, and the pacing decisions that made race day feel strong instead of shattered. From expo buzz and shakeout nerves to the bus ride, the frosty start, and that roaring finish by the Capitol, we bring you inside the moments that matter.
Max shares how a 3 a.m. alarm, union trade hours, and three days of lifting paired with steady long runs to shave nearly two minutes per mile. Daryl explains converting trail and ultra endurance into road rhythm with weekly mileage targets, a delta 30K test, and a plan to avoid the start-line sprint. We unpack the power of heart rate pacing, the discipline of letting friends go early, and the late-race calculus when the Sac State bridge shows up and your legs refuse to turn over any faster. Fueling, electrolytes, and simple choices like posture and core strength get their due—because they decide whether you’re sprinting the chute or cramping on the curb.
Beyond splits and gels, this is a story about community and identity. CIM’s organization, crowds, and volunteers—bananas, bands, and all—create an atmosphere that lifts thousands. We talk about the quiet minute after the medal, the way kids light up at the fence, and why “enjoy your race” is the best send-off you can give a runner. Finish lines have a way of changing what you believe about yourself. That’s why the calendar is already inked for CIM and the San Francisco Marathon.
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SPEAKER_03:Welcome back to Peach Podcast with Doug. With Doug? What about my co-host, Daryl? Today we do not, man, we do not have the co-host Daryl. But Peach Podcast is here, and I have two, not one, but two very special guests. And the first special guest I want to introduce, I'm not going to introduce him right away. I'm just going to let you know who it is. He's a first-time marathon runner. He slayed it. And most importantly, this young man is my son, Max Telmidge. Max, welcome to Peach Podcast.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:Thanks for having me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. I'm excited to pick your brain and talk about your first marathon. But before we do that, let me introduce our second guest. Our second guest is a, he's also a first-time marathon runner. Now, this man has run a marathon distance, but he's done it in the ultra platform and ultra platform. So we're going to break down and uh unpack in an ultra runner's brain what it was like to run a marathon. Because I believe it's a little bit of a different mindset and a little bit of a different strategy. And but we'll find out. We'll find out. The second guest is Daryl Gannist, who is also the co-host for Peach Podcast, but he's coming in as a guest today. What's up, Daryl? Woo-hoo. Yeah. Got her done. Got her done. You got it done. So you both, so real quick, you know, not not to be a spoiler alert. You both finished, right? Yep. Yep. Both finished. And and when was the CIM? Was that December 8th? Is that correct? 7th. 7th. December 7th. Okay, December 7th.
SPEAKER_04:Sunday.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. December 7th. All right. So let's uh so Max, let's start off with you, real quick. Why, why did you decide to run 26.2 miles?
SPEAKER_00:So for me, um, I have a one of my my really good friends, Justin. Uh, I was actually the best man in his wedding. Um he he introduced me to this guy, Vince, uh, Vince Lou. He's a realtor in the in the Bay Area. And uh Vince has always done like a bunch of ultra runs. He's done a hundred miler, fifty miler, bunch of stuff like that. And uh he's done a bunch of challenges and stuff. Um and we were just probably drunk one night, and we uh we were like, hey, let's let's fucking run a marathon this year. And I I believe that was in like March at the beginning of the year. So we all uh decided we were gonna do it and signed up actually, so that financially we were forced to go. Right. And uh so I I started training for it. I was never really a a runner before, but uh yeah, that's that's how I got into it. And it was definitely a big challenge for me because I've I've always been more into like lifting weights and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, I and that's that's a great thank you for bringing that up because I I that slipped my mind. But you weren't running all the time. I mean, you've knocked out, you went out and knocked out uh when I was training for my marathon, you came out and knocked out five miles here, six miles there. Uh and I think on the day I ran my marathon, or I think you ran eight miles that day. That was probably your longest run ever. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I was I remember thinking that day, I was like, damn, how the hell is he gonna run that far? And eight miles felt like ridiculous to me at that time.
SPEAKER_03:Right, right, right. Well, you did eight miles on Perry Creek Road, so that's a whole that value that's a that's 16 equivalent.
SPEAKER_00:That's probably harder than the CIM.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, I don't know about that, but it it is hard out here, man. It's all hills. So good for you. Good, good, good. And uh, so I'm gonna come back to you, Max, but I want to just kind of compare because now we got and Max, why don't you share with everyone how old you are? And why don't you share also where do you live and tell us a little bit about your family? Let's let's back up a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Um, I'm I'm 28. Uh I'm I work in construction in San Francisco for uh uh union company, Bullard's Heating and Air. Shout out, BHA. Yeah, we live in Oakley. It's pretty flat out here, which that's where I did most of my training. So that's something else we'll probably get into is maybe the difference between my training and the marathon. But and then a little bit about your family. I I have a beautiful wife, Yvonne, and two little kids, uh Ella and Amelia. They're two and three.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, my little grandbabies.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, got my hands full in that area as well.
SPEAKER_03:Very good, very good. Right on. Well, thank you, Max. Um, I'm gonna switch on over to Daryl real quick. Daryl, you're a guest now. You're not the co-host, right? Absolutely. All right, so Daryl, you've been uh I mean, people who follow Peach Podcast, they know that you've run a couple marathons, and one of them was, I believe, 50 miler, right? You've done a a couple, at least a couple 33 milers, and um and and definitely one 50 miler or more than one.
SPEAKER_01:Um just one, just one 50 miler. Um, we've ran uh this year six like uh equivalents of a marathon, so kind of that distance from more a lot of 50ks, uh, which is turns out to be about 50 uh 31 miles. So I've uh I've done the distance, but never signed up for a road marathon. And uh yeah, it was uh it was different. Um, I gotta admit, you know, we uh we talk a lot and text back and forth and everything. Also, and it was all of a sudden he's like, My Max signed up for a marathon. I'm like, no. Yeah, he's got some cool friends and they're uh they're big runners and he's starting to train. And you're right, Max. It was early. You signed up early.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and really early.
SPEAKER_01:And uh I was like, Oh, cool. That was until all through the summer, everyone's a while. We get these little things from Doug. He's like, dude, he busted out 10 miles and you know, did 15, and you were pretty consistent on a really, really nice pace. So all all summer long, there was that little that little twitch in the air, right, Doug. Um, you know, I gotta admit, I always told myself I would never run a road mark. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So Daryl, let me pause you on that for a second because you're doing ultras, you know, and throughout the summer and all that stuff, and some back, and then you got introduced to backyard ultras, which is a kind of a different little thing from than a regular standard, standard, you know, 100-mile ultra kind of thing. But all of a sudden, late in the game, I get the I get a text in the peach thread, like signed up for CIM. Like, oh, so tell me about the let's go back a little bit. What what what what flipped that switch?
SPEAKER_01:There was a little bit, Eric's been all over me. He's like, you know, you should do it, you should do it, you should do it. Right. And then I kind of had this for about a week. I had this. If I'm going to do it, why not now? You know, and we always say, you know, and I'm like, okay, I'm in pretty good shape. I just caught off some pretty, pretty long, intense runs. I felt pretty good. I saw some stuff on social media that the window was opening to get the bib transfers. And I said, you know what? I just said I'm gonna do it. Um, Eric told me he was not. I knew Max was gonna run, so at least I knew a person that was gonna be there, and I know you were gonna follow him, and I know we'd have a little bit of a I was gonna follow him anyway. And so just kind of one of those things. I I I signed up, I went through the transfer portal. So you basically uh go in, you put up and say, I would like a a a uh a bib. And uh people weren't very creative on this website, they were like, I would like a bib, right? I'm like, well, all right, and so it was gonna open like in a week. And I wrote a paragraph. By the way, I've never on a marathon. I I like try to sell myself a little. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't like I want a bib. And so I put it on there. And then people that needed to transfer their bibs, because as Max and I will talk, there's like 11,000 people. Some people might get hurt, they something happens that they need to go transfer them. They look, and if you make a match and somebody says, I will give you my bib, then when the transfer day, you kind of do that. Like literally put it up there. Eric liked it, he commented. It was like a social media. I was like selling myself out there. Like within a day, I had somebody says, Um, send me your email and I'll transfer the bib on the first. And that's how it happened.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, that's awesome, man. That so a little bit about so you both chose CIM, right? Which is a it's actually a world renowned marathon. Like people fly from all over the world to run this specific marathon. I wouldn't compare it to Boston. That that's been around a little longer, it's probably a little bit bigger, but it's got that kind of world renownedness uh as Boston. Speaking of, let me tell you a little bit about the CIM. I got some statistics here from an email Daryl sent me. The email says, let's recap 2025 by the numbers. So this is what was there on December 7th. 106 Olympic trial trials qualifiers, 2,471 Boston qualifiers, 4,000 volunteers, 150,000 servings of water, 6,000 bananas, 270,000 cups, 20 bands, you know, like musical bands on the course, 20 bands, 5,000 band-aids, 64 tubs of Vaseline, verifying that this is a very kinky event. No, I'm just kidding. 64 tubs of Vaseline, 39,000 safety pins, and then it says between the expo and the start line, over four tons, four tons of discarded clothes donated to local charities, over uh thirteen thousand pounds of waste diverted from landfill, a hundred thousand plus photos taken, and it says this is this is this is a huge statistic here. This year, CIM contributed twenty million dollars to the local economy and over three hundred thousand dollars was raised for local charities. That's that's huge. I mean, what an awesome event that it can give back to the community on that level financially. Let's see, over three hundred thousand dollars paid to local municipal and county service providers, six derivent six different municipalities and over fifty neighborhoods covered on course, two thousand cones, I saw them all, one thousand barricades, six hundred and fifty uh portable toilets. And I think uh 500 of those were probably at the starting line. Oh yeah. 180 medical volunteers. 180 medical volunteers. Interesting. 160 radios, 46 uh pace team leaders. Man, a big shout out to the pace team people out there. Those people are man, they're like amazing. Um, let's see, and then runners from 44 countries and all 50 states. Let me say that again. Runners from 44 countries in all 50 states and 138,336 feet of Sacramento County Roadway covered. So that's what you guys showed up to on December 7th. That's what was supporting your run while you guys are running, sweating it out, huffing and puffing. That's what was going on behind the scenes and afterwards, you know, just the donations and the money and all that stuff. So did you guys did you guys read that email? Did what what do you think about that?
SPEAKER_01:Uh um, I did. I think the one thing I'd love to hear, Max. Um, I grew up in Sacramento, so CIM's been going on for 43 years. CIM for us was always hey, you had to be careful because the traffic was stopped and you couldn't get across town, right? Do you know what I mean? I knew it was a run. And then, Doug, when you did it a couple years ago, we followed you on the bike down there. Max, I gotta admit, man, um, I went to the day before uh to the the shakeout run in there, and then running the event, I had no idea it was that big. I don't know. It I was like I was kind of blown away. How what what was your feeling?
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, it was like that's something completely different than anything I've ever seen, really. I I mean, I would totally recommend you you gotta try that once in your life. If you're into fitness at all or you you have wanna just say you ran a marathon, I highly recommend that one because it's just the energy is amazing there.
SPEAKER_01:You know, and Max, I I just curious what you um, you know, I took the bus up, uh I went from Sacramento, and I think you may have took him. I thought everything about that race was like first class. Oh, yeah. I'm I mean it was just like everything, I mean, the instructions, the people, the I mean, like everything was just like I was like, wow, this is like this is like this is the big show. And I had no idea. And I got I had that imposter syndrome. I'm like, what am I doing here, man? You know what I mean? Because I was like, I was like, I'm not quite sure I I was like meant for this, but it it was super cool.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, and then when the when the bus drops you off and you see all those people that are warming up, they're they're running before the run and you know, just trying to stay warm. It was freezing, by the way, in the morning. Yes, uh, everybody had those like uh metallic looking blankets on, and but yeah, just try to stay warm and it was it was really cool. Like you were saying, there was hundreds of bathrooms right when you get dropped off, right?
SPEAKER_01:So and and Doug, uh I I was thinking about you because there was a guy on a microphone, right? Uh Max in the morning, and he was giving some race instructions, and he was and he said something like, And Sacramento prides itself on the highest ratio of uh porta potties per runner, right? Yeah, as I'm standing like 40 people deep trying to go to the bathroom, I'm like, man, that's a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, was it you, Daryl, or Max, who said, you know what, I'm just gonna go to the back porta potties, the furthest ones away, and and not get a line. And and you yet there was still a freaking line. That's awesome. I I remember and I shared this with you guys before, but I had when I did my marathon, um, it was their 40th anniversary, but I signed up with uh a fleet feet coach because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I had just become a runner, and because I did that, they have their own, you like they have this gated off area. You got to come in with a little badge and a number and all that stuff. And but you get your private porta potties, all kinds of warm drinks and food inside this tent. I was like, oh man, it was worth it just to do that. Yeah, so uh big shout out to Fleet Feet for hooking that up. And for those who want first-time uh luxuries, you want to probably go that route. But let me just back you up, guys. Let me back you guys both up um before because that you guys took us right to the starting line. But what were the the the day before festivities like? What was your take when you first because you got to go pick up your bib by by Saturday, right? And they have like a shakeout run going on, they have expos. What did that what what was that like and what was going on through your mind when you walked up to pick up your bib?
SPEAKER_00:I'll start maybe like a week before, just my my or maybe a couple weeks before the last couple long runs I'm doing, thinking about it, you know. Yeah, just like wow, all this training I've been doing has come together for this moment, and then like once I got there to go pick up my bib, it started feeling real. Like I see all these people walking in coming from who knows where, you know, there we all have the same feeling probably that we're feeling inside. Yeah, it was just it was awesome.
SPEAKER_03:That's cool. And Max, didn't you uh I think it was you. You said don't didn't you get sick that week?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, that unfortunately I did, but uh I will say I don't think it affected me too bad. I got sick like right at the perfect time if if I was gonna have a perfect time. Right, right. Uh I think I got sick on like Tuesday. Okay. And the race was on Sunday. So it ended up being like a three-day, three or four-day sickness.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So when you when you got sick, uh did you get nervous at all? Like what went through your head, or what what what happened?
SPEAKER_00:I just kind of like try to mentally prepare myself because I had some pretty uh high goals set for myself for the race.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And uh I wanted to just be prepared not to hit them and just tell myself, you know, if it if it doesn't happen this year, then that's okay. You know, you worked, you worked hard and yeah, but I I definitely was I was nervous just to to be let down on race day.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, thank you. Thank you. That's a that's an authentic share right there. Excellent. There's a lot of wisdom in that people. Listen up. Darryl, what about you? You uh you showed up at expo, and yeah, you I think you participated in a lot of uh shit going on with the day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was kind of uh it's probably I don't know, what about uh a week before, two weeks before you get it, you get an email from them and you're like, oh man, and they would be like it's 14 days away or so, and you'd be like, Oh man, it's coming. So we got the last email with and man, that thing was long. They had so many instructions and maps and all sorts of stuff. And uh I Josephine looked at it and she was like, I'm gonna sign you up for the shakeout run. So she signed up because it was free socks, so it was down by Doko, uh, down by Doko over by um uh where the Kings play um at Golden One. And so I got down there with Eric. There was like 2,000 people at the shakeout run. Damn. And uh I was like, Oh, that's when it kind of hit me. And then from there, Max, I went over to pick up my bib after. And uh the couple things, you walk into Cal Expo, it's this huge hall. Max, when I was walking in, I was walking all these people, Doug, these are some fit people. Yeah, I'm like, this ain't no like average crowd going into the, you know, these are some really like fit runners. And I'm like, whoa. And then they got this huge, big old, I don't know, it was like a billboard, right? Of the starting line as you're walking in there, and it just hits you, and um, just incredibly organized, super cool. I didn't know, Max, it would five or six different spots you could take pictures and all sorts of fun stuff, and you're just it was just it was a cool vibe, and you're just around some really awesome, healthy, fit, competitive people. Um, and uh so yeah, it was it was I walked out of there with all my with my little bag, and I was I was pretty, pretty excited. So awesome.
SPEAKER_03:And Daryl, on that yeah, that were I'm glad you said excited because I I remember uh we were in a group text, I forget who was in it, but you somebody masked if you were nervous or whatever, and you said actually I'm I'm pretty excited. And I remember seeing that text going because it was like a a day before or two days before. I'm like that that's freaking awesome. Like you, I knew you were locked in when because you could identify the difference between excitement and nervousness, and you chose excitement, and that was freaking awesome. Not that it's bad to be nervous. I I was nervous when I went. You signed up, you commit it, you're doing this. You took us to the the day before in the starting line, but let's back it up a little bit. What was your um what was your walk us through your training process? What did how did you decide to train? What was your protocol? What did you do? Did you have a protocol? Did you have a strategy or what did you kind of do? And uh, Max, we'll go ahead and start with you.
SPEAKER_00:I kind of wanted this race to be like my baby, pretty much. So I didn't I didn't follow any specific uh training plan from online or Or get a cut running coach or anything. What I did was I would have my my long runs on Sundays. Right. And I I started at probably about I think my my first ever long run was probably like eight miles or so. And then I would work my way up by like one to two miles every week. Right. So I would do long run Sunday, short run, which was about three miles on Monday. And then Thursday or Friday, I would have a uh like some speed work running where I'd do like a mile as fast as I could, or you know, some intervals of sprinting and stuff like that. And I just did that for a few months. So I I started out like once in March when we first decided to sign up. Right. I trained for a couple months and then it started to get really hot. And I kind of fell off and my diet fell off. And then the last it was, I think it was about exactly 75 days before the CAM. I got my training like really dialed in and serious, and I just followed that that regimen that I just said before, and um ended up being able to drop about uh I think like 13 pounds before race day in that last 75 days. And yeah, I was feeling feeling like a beast coming into the race for sure.
SPEAKER_03:What did you notice? Uh, because I remember you when you signed up, you got right into training. But then I also remember, like you just said, there was that gap in the summertime where you kind of just you stopped training and then you came back in. What was that? Were you nervous coming back in, or were you just locked and say, okay, it's time to get to work, or how did that whole process handle? And did you bounce back pretty quick? Or did you feel like, okay, shit, I gotta start over here?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, for me mentally, like I had I think I had already gotten up to like 16 miles in in the previous training. So mentally, once anybody who runs a long distance, they'll tell you once you've ran a certain amount of miles, it's like takes away the the scariness of it, I guess. You're like, I'm you at least for me, I've I've already ran that far, you know, so I know what it feels like. So I wasn't really scared, I just I knew I had to be very disciplined and like I for the most part I cut out alcohol and um I was very good on my diet. I had very few slip-ups, and by the end of the race, I probably felt like the best physically that I've felt since I was in high school. Wow. Um during wrestling.
SPEAKER_03:And I just want to throw it out there for people who are like, oh man, I I can't do that, I'm too busy, or I gotta my job's demanding. You know, Max works in the trades, and so Max has a very physically demanding job all day. A lot of times, and Max, correct me if I'm mistaken, but a lot of times you would and you I think you still do this, you don't go straight home from work, you go to the gym, you work out, and then then you can then you do some running. And was that kind of stick, was that what was happening?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, uh what I what I do is I guess I left this out in my training. I also was I lift uh weights three days a week. So the days that I'm not running, I'm I'm lifting, and then I have uh one rest day pretty much every week. So every day I'll I'll I'll go to work. I I get up uh for work at 3 a.m. because I work in San Francisco at five.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Um, which is about an hour drive for people who don't know. And then I'm off around 12 or 1, depending straight to the gym that way. Cause it's hard for when the kids see me come home, they don't want me to go anywhere. Hard for me to get get an hour plus workout in and or run or whatever, whatever it is, and and then I'm off for the night.
SPEAKER_03:Awesome, awesome. Yeah, so thanks for sharing that because sometimes we it's easy to make a lot of excuses because your schedule and what time you wake up in the morning and have to go to bed, and somehow, some way uh you just you you organically prioritize what needed to be done and got it done. So well done, son. Daryl, you were running ultra events throughout the summer, so I know physically you were probably or mentally you're thinking, okay, I I got the distance in me. And you know, so what was going on through your mind and what did your training strategy shift at all? Or how did you handle that coming into a uh 26.2 marathon run?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I probably didn't have uh quite the most organized plan. We've been running a lot. Um uh we did our 50 mile cool moon. That was just such an intense, uh amazing event, um, just to kind of physically try to break through barriers and be on your feet in that duration. So I kind of had the duration, you know, Doug, on you know, there. And we'd run um Silver Moon and other different ones. Like I say, we've run a lot of those ones. Um, I ended up doing a backyard uh ultra in Folsom, ended up doing 32 miles, but that's kind of a start stop and everything else. That was cool. And I kind of after that said, if I'm gonna do this, I need to get on the road. So I did sign up and I did the 30k. It was uh Clarksburg, it was kind of down in the delta, so it was a 30k, so that's about a 18.9 mile. Right. So I kind of committed to kind of road. And for me, I tried something a little different, Max. For me, just like I was like, I need to get between 30 to 35 miles in. So I was really tracking my weekly totals. And then on the weekends, generally Eric and I would go on uh one long run that could be eight, could be 10, could be 12, sometimes 14. So that's kind of how I did. I tried to kind of stick around because I felt like I had the endurance, but I had to get the concept of being on the road, you know what I mean? And that's that's a bit different. And so that's kind of what I did. And I teased Eric because I think Eric is probably in the best shape of his life because he helped me train, he didn't even do it. Um, and I was like, Eric, you're one of the reasons I signed up for this. So when I call you, you better go out. And he not not one time, he's like, I was like, Eric, long run. He goes, Come over, you know. So it was really cool. But I was a little bit more max on how many miles per week, and then I just had to get more used to just being on the road.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, good, good. And Daryl also uh trains, he does weightlifting as well. Uh multiple days a week and uh very consistent with his fitness routine. So I know that had to definitely help. Definitely. And nutrition-wise, Daryl, what's the what's that look like for you?
SPEAKER_01:It's just I've been pretty consistent. You know, I can't tell you. Um, you know, between a few years ago when we just started riding until now, I think we've all got super consistent on that two, three days a week, strength training, core training, even leg training a couple days a week. Man, everybody I talk to, right, Max, everybody, I don't care what you do, cycling, running, everything, everybody strength trains, right? Yeah, and it just makes your whole body just more fit. And I can even tell, Max, like my posture. You know, every once in a while, my legs get tired. I try to work on my posture, I can feel my core tighten and my legs get a little, you know. Just you got it. You get you can't just be just like one-dimensional.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, good, good, good, yeah, for sure. I I had to start prioritizing my my leg workouts a lot more training for this because I knew I needed some power in there for sure. And then one thing I I think I've learned I need to work on for the next one is gonna be more core training to help with the posture, and yeah, that's just makes you whole pretty much, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Excellent, excellent, good stuff, fellas. Good stuff. So, next question: what were your expectations for this marathon? And did you, you know, were did the experience meet or exceed your expectations?
SPEAKER_01:Uh I'll go. Um, one uh one I wanted to, I would just want to finish number one, right? Um, uh, you know, and I felt pretty confident in being able to finish. And I kind of mentally um I wanted to finish, and Doug, you talked about I want to get across that line. I I didn't want to be like broken. I see some people just like broken on we've always talked about that in our biking races or whatever we go to. We want to finish that line with a little pride, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so I kind of had it. I I really thought my first time I wanted to get under five hours, felt very comfortable with that um as a goal. Um there's this person I look up to immensely that uh I think got five hours and four minutes, and I was like, maybe I'll just try and beat him. So I'm not sure who that was, but um yeah, I was like maybe five hours and two minutes, Darryl.
SPEAKER_03:Five hours, two minutes and two minutes and you beat me, you little bastard. You did beat me. Good job.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I was cheering for you to do it.
SPEAKER_03:So it was gall new.
SPEAKER_01:I beat you by a handful of minutes, but I that was my goal. Number one, I wanted to uh stay pretty consistent um there. And Max, I had run a lot of half marathons, right? I've run maybe five since we've done this. Whenever you cross half marathon and you stop, the thing in your mind is, do I got another half marathon in me? That's yeah, and dude, every time, Doug, I'm like, I don't know, man. That's a lot. So that was my expectations. Finish, and I want to get under five.
SPEAKER_00:All right, excellent. And Max? My buddies that I that I signed up for this with, um, they're both, I mean, like I said, Vince, he's uh he's run a bunch. He was expecting to go like three hours, 30 minutes to four hours. And then uh my other buddy Justin, he's just like a natural runner. I mean, the guy he's pretty fucking fast. So yeah. Uh I I really just wanted to keep up with those guys and come within like 10 minutes of them finishing, pretty much.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_00:That was that was my goal, which it was it was pretty much to be around uh just under four hours, if possible, or at four hours. So like a nine nine ten pace, I think is what it was.
SPEAKER_01:So do you think that's um I know your dad, uh your dad would send us your training thing. So one thing I was really surprised is man, it just your dad would send these things, uh, you know, some of your charts and stuff like this. Dude, you seemed like you were like always consistent from like mile one through mile, it didn't matter if it was eight, ten, or twenty. Like, man, you're a very consistent man, you train super consistent, right? And uh that's one thing I was real impressed. I know Doug would Doug was always talking about that. Um was that a plan, or is that just how how you kind of roll, or or talk to me about that?
SPEAKER_03:And I think he's talking about your pace, you know, your pace is very consistent from from the get to go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so for me, um, once I get into like a a rhythm, like uh slow, and this is one thing I actually want to work on as well, but slowing down my pace is it almost makes it like more difficult for me once I get into that groove. Right. So I I mean I would really just focus on my my heart rate, that's what it was, and my pace just ended up following that. Nice so it was really my heart rate, trying to keep it uh in a certain range of numbers. And yeah, that's that just ended up being that pace for me.
SPEAKER_03:So, Max, you talked about you know you wanted to finish in you know under four hours. So did you uh did you meet or exceed the expectation of your training?
SPEAKER_00:Uh um I I exceeded it pretty pretty well. I finished in uh three hours and fifty-one minutes and some change, I think. Uh so I beat it by about nine minutes, which was uh amazing for me.
SPEAKER_02:It was all great you were uh crushing it.
SPEAKER_00:I think 851 pace or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Damn. Amazing, amazing. Yeah, congratulations again. Both of you guys, congratulations. You guys crushed it. All right, so let me ask you guys um those last couple miles, they're just brutal, right? But at the same but in the same sense, they're like, I only got two more miles. And Daryl has this uh famous saying he got from somebody off of Instagram or TikTok or something, where it's like my my grandma or my mom can run a 5K, right? So when you get to that 5K point, you know, I know that's going through his head, you know, my mom or my grandma can run it, or my grandma can run a 5k. So when you guys were down at those last few miles, the 5k miles, two miles, one mile, what what was going on through your heads? What were you thinking?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I would I would probably even say back up. Um, you know, um the the interesting part was uh the one part of the race that I hadn't seen before was those first five or six miles, right? Uh, like when you turn on oak, those right. And uh Doug, people were telling me those. I was reading, they were like, if you get through the first nine miles, because that's a little bit of the up and down, right? Right, right. Um, then that then you can kind of cruise down. And so I had a little apprehension, I'll be honest with you, about I was like, I'd never even I'd been like maybe a couple miles we'd ridden our bikes on oak, but I hadn't been all the way down. So yeah, those are some soon. So in my mind, I was like, just get by the get by the rollers. But um, you know, when you cross that bridge, and I think that's mile 21 or 22, something like that, the Sack State Bridge, something like that. You get another four or five. I I see all these people like, oh, you'll get picked up by the crowd and you'll be going and you can pick it up. Dude, I just was like, just I just tried to hold on. I was just like, like, no matter what I did, my legs weren't going any faster, but you you kind of know I got this, right? And I was just trying to maintain and and and kind of and kind of come in. And uh, I was telling Max um, you know, those cool things. I don't know, I love the balloons, you know, the big signs uh with the like mile one, mile five, maybe you can see those far away, man. And you're like, there's a balloon, right? And I was telling Max, you know, you start clicking on those last couple, 23, 24, and then you see that 26 one. Man, I'll tell you, Max, I we text about Isaac, there was no better feeling in the world than seeing that 26, and you take a left and go in. So uh the last couple were really cool. I had a little apprehension on the first, you know, eight or nine miles because I wasn't as comfortable with those because I hadn't seen them. But dude, those those last, I don't know, three, four miles, man, those are burned in my brain. I don't know. How about you, Max?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, for sure. The the last last part of the race, I mean, especially coming in, because I was I was thinking like I'm pretty sure I'm gonna start hearing people cheering soon. And then sure enough, you know, you come around that last turn and you see everybody there. That that was awesome. As far as like like how I felt physically, I was definitely was starting to hurt a little bit, but I think I paced myself just about as good as I could have for that race. So I mean, I can't I was able to like almost do a sprinting finish at the end. You know, it was it was really good. I I was very happy with my my pace for that run.
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SPEAKER_01:Hey Max, the one thing for me, um I was a little surprised, and I don't Doug, I don't know why, because we see it all the time in our bike races are this like all along the way from like maybe the mile 10 to like especially those last five to seven miles, there's a lot of people on the side of the road, right? Going off stretching, like you know, hurting, and uh I just I try not to look at them too long. I just try to keep looking at the signs, you know, and everything else. But you see, you it's real, man. You see people their bodies really starting to freeze up. I I I guess I'd heard about that, um, but I just I don't know. I just that surprised me.
SPEAKER_00:Nice yeah, that actually I mean it kind of happened to one of uh my buddy Justin, and I mean the dude, he's such a a badass. He's he ended up finishing only maybe like nine minutes after me, even with breaking down uh at like mile 13. It it definitely is real for sure. You I think a lot of that is just the way you fuel your body the day before, or maybe the the couple days before, and then morning of, and uh fueling is very important.
SPEAKER_03:What about how you does uh Max? I know you had made an adjustment starting out. You started out with Vince and Justin, but I think I remember you saying something like you realized, okay, I I'm not trying to run with I got to get back to my plan. Well take us through that real quick.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so like the start, start of the race. Um, because they were telling me, oh yeah, I want to uh hold like an 830 pace to start. They just they started out super strong. The start of the race in general is just has this energy about it where uh my dad was telling me, I mean, he was warning me, like you're not you're gonna be running a seven-minute pace and you won't even know it just because the energy you won't feel it. And uh that's very true. So yeah, they started out, I started to lose them, and I was looking at my heart rate, I'm like, I know what range I need to be in, so I eventually I just had to let them go, and that was like a really tough thing for me to do because uh I I trained so much for the race, and I'm like, fuck well. I mean, I wasn't gonna be mad that they finished before me, but you know, I wanted to be close with them, you know, at least. So it was it was hard for me to slow down, but I did, and um yeah, I ended up finishing strong.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And again, not to, you know, those like you said, I got the chance to hang out with all of you guys the night before. And man, what a couple of awesome I mean, I've known Justin for years. You went to high school with him, and uh, but I got to meet Vince, and what a cool dude. But I think, you know, and I I told them both, I think they came out a little hot because you know, at the end of the day, a couple of guys that you had high uh high high regard and high respect for, and you thought you were gonna come in behind them, you know, they were struggling at the end, and you ended up crossing the line before them. And um, you know, that's a that's a I just point that out because there is so much power in having a plan and trusting the process and the fact that you let them go at the beginning, I don't know if you realize how much that freaking that got you to that result, to that end result, right? Because it you could have been broken down at the end as well had you tried to stay with them in the beginning. And so, you know, good job on you for trusting the process. They still, despite them, you know, feeling a lot more pain at the end, they those guys are badass, and they still finished, you know, yeah right behind you and shit.
SPEAKER_00:So it was it was and you know what there's uh there's an added motivation now too because I did cross before them and I know they're coming for me next time. So that's that's now I gotta push even harder.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. It sounds like teen peach.
SPEAKER_00:It sounds like team leach. It's good to have a group of friends that that push each other like that, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Right, right, right, right. What was uh what was the most rewarding part of the experience for you guys? Uh Daryl, you start.
SPEAKER_01:There is a stigma of completing 26.2. Yeah, right. It's pretty cool, you know. I mean, it's and then doing it, I didn't realize doing it on CIM, you know. It's like, dude, that's awesome. Right. And so all the training and the fact that we both finished and we felt good and you know, we did pretty good, and everything else are we, you know, we we accomplished it, and then just kind of that feeling. And I I remember across the line, I was telling you, Doug, I crossed the line, and you're excited. It's super cool because you like like Max said, you you turn, you start to hear the crowd, then you see them, and you might see maybe your family, and you have people yelling, and then you turn to see the capital, and you go across the line, and then uh you know, they give you metal, and it takes a while. It's I know it might Max kind of a long walk all the way around that big that big you. And uh, I got my medal and I kind of leaned over. I was telling Doug, and um, dude, I had to take it in for a minute because I was like, whoa, I I felt a little overwhelmed when I finished, you know, and you're by yourself, and you know, like I I I'm glad I had that five-minute walk around. I got to compose myself a little and just kind of like, what just happened? You know what I mean? It was I got a little emotional and I got a little, I'll tell you, uh Max was telling Doug uh Doug he wanted me to say this. I kind of leaned over after I got my medal, and you could tell you had to walk around. And a medical guy says, You okay? I said, Yeah, he goes, Do you need medical help? And I looked at him and I wanted to tell him, I'm like, I'm not sure yet. Yeah, give me a minute, man. I was fine. But I did. I was a little emotional, like you said, it's a great word. And I kind of walked and you have, I don't know what, four or five minutes. So you see your family. I'm glad I had four or five minutes to kind of kind of just kind of kind of put it in perspective in my mind.
SPEAKER_03:And Max, what about you? What do you think was the most rewarding for, you know, now that you finished your first marathon?
SPEAKER_00:I think in general. this whole this whole process of adding this uh new aspect into my life I think it's the that's the most benefiting thing is I I mean I know I can do something like this now right just one more one more notch on my belt. I mean if you can if you can do this you can do a lot of things. So just I have that that uh mental capability now and I mean this is this is going to be something that it looks like it's gonna be added into a part of my my life now.
SPEAKER_03:So you know I I love I'm I'm a huge fan of just giving back and sharing wisdom from experiences and so if someone's listening right now and they're considering running a marathon what would what's the best advice you would give them at this point now that you've experienced it sign up.
SPEAKER_00:Sign up okay I think the other thing yeah yeah Max go ahead I say sign up I was just gonna add one more thing sign up and you'll figure it out you you will figure it out don't worry about it just sign up and you'll figure it out along the way that's exactly what I did and Daryl did I'm sure and yeah it just happens.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah and Max I think there's something that says you'll have oh I should have trained more like you'll never like in your first one be like oh I got like you always will have some doubts you know what I mean it just I think everybody and the only thing Max I want to hit on one more thing real quick. Man Doug I can't believe how cool this marathon running community is they I met so many people right um and it was so big right and everybody from average people to people that were qualifying people I met at the start line people I met at the airport later that day I it's a it's a pretty cool and encouraging and healthy community. I mean Max I know we didn't talk about that but it just it kind of overwhelmed me. I know Doug we do cycling communities and ultra and everything else that the marathon running community is pretty cool.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. And also to to make it feel more welcoming there is people there that you would not expect to be running a marathon. There's people there that are I think I saw a mom pushing a stroller and she's running the whole thing you know she I mean anybody can do it. So yes I would rec highly highly recommend you know don't be scared of it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah and Daryl you mentioned in the beginning you know there's a lot of fit runners there you know and again I'm as fit I think a lot of uh people view fitness as you know slender sleek and all this stuff but there's a lot of there's a there's all kinds of body types out there you know oh yeah body types that are that are large medium small and they all get the shit done and they all have their different strategies and paces and and to Max's point don't be intimidated by the running community they're probably the most welcoming community I've ever engaged with they don't judge they they it's all encouragement it's all I you could be running next to a world class elite first place runner and they're gonna be saying good job they're gonna be looking at you cheering you on you know while you're struggling or stretching on the side you know it's a great great great community let me ask you guys something let me move in and we'll kind of close the the podcast after this but life lessons you know I mean Peach Podcast purpose energy attitude commitment health you know it's all about life and and what we get out of it and what we can give back you know big big big big on giving back so what do you what kind of life lessons uh have you received from this and and what's next and you can answer in any order you can you can say what's next now and then give me a life lesson or vice versa.
SPEAKER_00:I think that uh taking a risk uh on on something like this you know taking a risk uh will pay off I think you know yeah especially in in fitness challenging your fitness goals and stuff like that it and I think I I've learned that it's it's good to challenge yourself in something that you're not good at because you never know. I mean I started off at like a 1 10 to 11 minute pace when I first started running and could barely keep up with my buddies and I ended up in the eights and I mean I don't know it's just it's crazy what your body can do and so just short I mean I haven't even been training for a year and I mean I shaved off like two two minutes per mile that's I think that was pretty impressive. That's astound for that's astounding. Amazing um just life lesson would be just don't don't be scared of anything. And I want to pass that along to my kids as well. That's that's one thing that I'm I'd say I'm grateful for with this whole experience. Yeah just I mean that's that was one thing that was motivating me to reach that finish line was like my kids are gonna see that I did this one day. Yep and they're gonna be like well dad dad did this you know right so I can do I can do this other thing or whatever you know and then uh what's next for me so it's funny I right after the race I was like I'm I think I'm done with marathon running and lo and behold Daryl sends me a text and he signed up for for it next year. And then my buddy Vince yeah uh my buddy Vince texted me and he signed up for what did he sign up for? He signed up for another marathon oh I think he signed up for the San Francisco marathon. Yes so I signed up for that one as well. Uh two days later I could barely walk down the stairs still and I'm already signing up for another marathon.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah just just to be clear just to be clear obviously this had a little effect on both of us because like the thing was on Sunday and by Monday and Tuesday we had already signed up for another one.
SPEAKER_03:While you were hobbling still I wasn't even hobbling I my feet were up in the bed man I was in the hotel you know hotel and my feet were up and I was on my phone I was like yeah I'll give it another shot yeah but right after just for a lot of people who don't know immediately after Daryl finished the marathon he got to spend a few a few minutes with his family but then got shuttled over by uh Eric our buddy to the airport because he had to jump on a plane his six seven foot ass had to jump on a plane I hope he got first class or something Daryl man yeah it was good it was all good and uh and he had to jump on a plane to get to because he had a uh business to attend to in uh I think Houston the the next day so I was like man so like uh big lesson when you do a marathon take the next day off as soon as you as soon as you book it call your boss and say hey I'm gonna have a run on this date and I'm taking the next day off so Daryl go ahead man uh what's next for you and yeah um yeah life lessons and what's next um I'll tell you what uh Max and I I want to bring it up here the thing I was so happy about and I I want to get your feedback I enjoyed every minute of that race I kind of said hey I might like I didn't know if I was gonna do this again so I enjoyed the expo the the bus ride up was fun you know what I mean um I just tried to like enjoy all of it you know um Max all the kids the the kids with the nerds dude I grabbed them all um everybody that had a sign I slapped it right there was the licorice people man those people that had the box of Kleenex that was like the best thing so I kind of like halfway through I was like this is gonna hurt this is gonna suck it's gonna be hard so I don't know I had this really kind of interesting thing I just wanted to get the whole experience I think I high fived everyone other than the alcohol on the side that I don't drink that didn't take that but man I ate a couple donut holes and I was high fiving people all the way down and I've I just felt like I said if I'm gonna do this I'm gonna try and enjoy the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And uh I really I really like that I wasn't as much just like oh I can't wait to you know sometimes Doug it's like you know that feeling you can't wait to get to the finish line. I was like if I'm gonna do this for four or five hours I better freaking enjoy it you know or take something out of it. And uh I know that was kind of and I'm I was proud of myself because sometimes you know we get out there and you're like I just want to get to the finish line. You know what I mean? Right right right and you when you know Max you have four or five hours that finish line ain't anytime close right you better enjoy some of this. So that was that was my big one and um I think the only thing Max I think like you said um now that we've done this I want to be more consistent in the second half if I I signed up for a couple reasons. One of the things I think I could be more consistent in the second half of the race. So I just want to try it again. So that's kind of my thing. So nice uh excited CIM 2026 and I'm so glad I put down my phone the next day because I was I looked at the San Francisco one and I was like put the phone down Daryl don't do it don't do it I won't be surprised if he does do it at some point.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah we'll see we'll see Daryl I'll never count you out. Exactly he might sign up a month before but he'll he'll still show up he'll have just finished running 50 miles or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah that that one I'm I'm definitely a little uh it's gonna be different because it's twice the elevation yeah as as this the CIM so that's gonna be a new beast.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah I love their website though they for the San Francisco Marathon they have a video there where it literally takes you on the whole track. But you know it's it's speeded up so you're going through fast and there's a little voice at mile one this is this and the mile two it's like oh that's cool. It's it's all narrated so it's a really cool way to kind of look at what you're gonna be doing and get a preview of it and get some narration about what's going on at those turns and straightaways and all that stuff. So San Francisco Marathon people check it out but we're talking about CIM and we're closing this podcast out any last minute thoughts or anything oh wait real real quick before I sign off you guys had mentioned your kids I got to tell you I was at the finish line you know watching with your kids. So this ain't about your kids looking back you know saying oh well my dad did this it's like it was your kids being there I mean I man if you could see the looks on their faces the anticipation the joy the delight and then when you guys come around the turns and you're coming through the fence at the end like they're just they can't wait to see you. And remember they're surrounded by this amazing energy going on. So the fact that you're doing it whether they comprehend what you're doing and on what level you're doing it is irrelevant that that they there is this there are these neurons blasting off in their brains and the emotions in their hearts and and every fiber of their vein is just firing off and it's connected to something you're doing that's extraordinary and they see that they see that in their dads. So good job guys because that is that's badass shit right that's man that's really what this all comes down to at the end if what what we can leave behind for our kids like that. It's it's just a beautiful thing. So well done boys well done any last minute thoughts before I sign off for anybody listening go get it whatever it is just make it happen.
SPEAKER_01:That's my my uh advice nice yeah and Max uh somebody said something to me and I told Doug um uh they were going by me and we're chatting and they they took off there a little faster and they said um they didn't say have a good race they said enjoy your race I like that in each it's like Max your race is Max's race Daryl's race is my race that's all it is you know what I mean it's like it's like you know and it's all very individual and you think about it and like that's pretty cool. You were with there 11,000 people Doug uh you know and it's Max's race and Daryl's race. Yeah so it's a it's just a cool cool kind of feeling just kind of all within your head so um uh I was super excited uh that uh Max definitely had a little you know when you were talking about all through the spring and the summer and then Eric I was I was thrilled it was awesome we both got our first one done and I think the text afterward was like we did it right because yeah all you want to do is I accomplished something so it's really cool and we'll we'll we'll see what happens next year.
SPEAKER_03:Great great stuff fellas Daryl thank you for uh stepping away from the co-host spot and being willing being willing to be a guest max my boy my son I'm so proud of you as your dad man I can I can't tell you and and you know the peach team will tell you I'm I'm just always bragging about you and talking you up because uh you you give shit to talk about so you know congratulations to both of you guys uh I love you guys and I'm gonna just sign off like I always do and say God bless and peace out peach out we're out of the way