Unhinged + Unfiltered: Who gave them a mic?
Real women - slightly unhinged - get real about the daily chaos of motherhood, business, relationships and everything that comes from life. From airing out the dirty laundry to actually washing it, we dive into the messy, beautiful, and hilarious reality of navigating life.
Unhinged + Unfiltered: Who gave them a mic?
#42 - Behind The Scenes Of Our Businesses
Ever wondered what really goes on behind the scenes of a transformation coach's life? After 42 episodes of helping you navigate life's chaos, we're pulling back the curtain on our personal journeys, businesses, and why we're so passionate about this work.
Lurinda reveals how her own disconnection from self during a relationship breakdown became the catalyst for her coaching career. Now specializing in helping women reconnect with themselves first—before their roles as mothers and partners—she shares how shadow work and somatic practices have not only transformed her clients' lives but helped her lose 14 kilos simply by listening to her body's wisdom. Her powerful mission? "You are a woman first, all those roles and responsibilities come after."
Meanwhile, Steph opens up about how postpartum depression and a drinking problem led her to discover personal development tools that changed everything. Today, she helps women who yell at their kids, struggle with habits, or feel like roommates with their partners after having children. Her no-nonsense approach combines shadow work with tough love: "I want to help you heal from your shit so it's not dragging you around, but also so you don't look back in 20 years and go 'I really fucked that up'."
We don't sugarcoat the realities of entrepreneurship—the financial investments, the late nights working while children sleep, the meltdowns when bills come due. But we also share why we wouldn't choose any other path: witnessing a woman take back her power after years of people-pleasing, or seeing a client finally heal digestive issues she's had since childhood after one powerful session.
Whether you're curious about shadow work, considering working with a coach, or simply want to feel less alone in your struggles, this intimate conversation will remind you that transformation is possible—and that sometimes the most broken parts of ourselves become our greatest gifts to others.
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Welcome to Unhinged and Unfiltered. Who Gave them a Mic. We're your hosts, steph and Lorinda.
Speaker 2:Warning getting triggered is not only accepted but encouraged here. This podcast will dive deep into conversations that make you really think about life. No top level BS here.
Speaker 1:Where real women get real about the daily chaos of motherhood, business relationships and everything that comes from life. From airing out the dirty laundry to actually washing it, we dive into the messy, beautiful and hilarious reality of navigating life.
Speaker 2:Tune in for unfiltered conversations, practical tips and tools that actually work and are easily applied, and a whole lot of laughs as we navigate the ups and downs of being a woman together. Welcome back to the Unhinged and Unfiltered podcast. Today we're up to like episode 42. So you guys have been listening to us for nearly a year at this point and we realized that we don't really share, often, a huge amount about what it is that our businesses do, because this podcast is all about impact. That's sort of the biggest thing for us, but we also create a lot of impact in our businesses and for our clients. So we wanted to share a little bit more about what it is that each of us do, and if you have been interested in working with one of us, then maybe this might give you the insight that you need to pull the trigger, because we do genuinely believe with our whole beings that our work changes lives. We see it time and time again. You know our clients are all kicking ass, taking names, all of the things.
Speaker 3:so, yeah, we are going to start with like who we are and why, why we do the things that we do yeah, and I think it's a cool to do this as well, because we were also just talking about how this is now episode 42 and who we are 42 weeks ago is so different again, and also, steph and I we obviously did the same shadow work certification and we had very similar, you know, styles where, like nearly a year later, I feel like we're so different now, so different so different, just completely different yeah yeah, and it's just funny it is funny how that works.
Speaker 2:It's kind of cool to have that, that documentation of how much we've changed. Yeah, kind of fun. So who are you? Why do you do the work that you do? What led you here and what is the best thing? What do you value most about what you do?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'm like, okay, keep this short and sweet, because there's many, many reasons that I'm here. But a bit about me straight away. I'm a mom, I have a six-year-old son and I also am a step-parent. I have an 18-year-old now, which is insane to say, an adult child and a 16-year-old. So outside of business, there's a lot that's happening. They're in very different life stages. I'm also partnered with my ex-fiancee. I love saying it like that.
Speaker 3:We have been together in each other's lives for nearly eight and a half years now. Actually, it is eight and a half years. That happened the other day. And, yeah, we're in a really, really, really beautiful place now thanks to all of this work. So, outside of my business that's, I'm like the one of, like the boss of all of those things. Um, the other pieces of me is like I'm a huge smart reader, love it, can't get enough of it, and currently into puzzles and I don't know like things with my hands, because apparently my brain doesn't stop. So now I've been diagnosed with ADHD for the last 12 months and that's been fun.
Speaker 3:The thing that led me here was the complete disconnection that I had to myself and like that anxious attachment and that codependency, like I, when my partner and I separated, I had to be really independent and I didn't know how to do that with ease and comfort. And it was a really stressful time and there's a lot of other past traumas I've had but that was probably like that that turning point of like holy shit, no one's coming to save me, I need to save myself and how am I going to do that. And it was a very empowering moment when I started to do things for myself, but also learning that I can lean on somebody. I don't need to lean on somebody to be somebody, I can just lean on somebody. So, yeah, that was a big piece, and what I value most in the work I do is really it's funny connection and disconnection are like the two main things in my world of um, like the amount of people that I get to spend time with, like there's a duality of like I work by myself, so it can be really lonely, but like I have Steph in podcasting and I work with other coaches and I also work with really amazing women, like women who also want to feel more connected to themselves and to their lives instead of just like surviving.
Speaker 3:They want to live instead of just like doing day to day. They want more pleasure and joy and they want to build a life that's for them, and I think that's also one of the pieces, as well, of, like I got to choose how I want to live, not because, like, I have to mother a certain way or I have to show up in my relationship a certain way, or in the relationship to myself. I actually get to choose every decision, and that is really, really empowering, and that is why today, sitting here, I'm like oh, I have a really beautiful life and I've had huge transformations because I've gotten to choose that. So that's probably like sum it up with those three dot points. Um, yeah, all right, steph, a bit about you. What brought you to this work, the transformations that you've had, and what do you value most?
Speaker 2:oh, god, these questions are so hard because I am a yapper. So, again, I'm also a mum. I have got three beautiful kids. They are three, nearly six, six next month and seven. So they were three and a half years apart between my eldest and my youngest. So wild times. And if that doesn't explain what I am like, I don't know what does. I am basically chaos in a tiny, tiny little body.
Speaker 2:But I came into this work when it all started with the birth of my third child. So I ended up with postpartum depression and a drinking problem and all of those fun things which weren't actually fun at all. But I do use dark humor to cope with my crap, and so do a lot of my clients things which weren't actually fun at all. But I do use dark humor to cope with my crap, and so do a lot of my clients which I really love. I just appreciate the dark jokes, um. So yeah, I was really struggling and I did some counseling, but I just felt like it wasn't scratching. It wasn't scratching the surface. I was still just really struggling and I did NLP first. That was my first step into the personal development world. I tend to be less of a. I'm gonna do this for a while and then I'm gonna study it and more of it. That sounds like a fun modality, I'm just gonna do it. Um, that's how I did. I'd never done breathwork before I had signed up for my breathwork certificate, never done it before in my life. But I was like, yeah, that sounds like fun, I'm just gonna just gonna give it a crack and see how it goes and I love it. So for me it was really a journey around, like my parenting and around the way that I was showing up for my kids and the way that I was acting around them. That kind of spurred my push into the personal development world and what I value most in the work I do would definitely be the transformations that I see would definitely be.
Speaker 2:I love watching my clients like unravel. I just love it where they come to me at first and they're like this is the way it is and my life is never going to get better and they've just got such strong beliefs and they're just holding on to them so tight. And then we just get to see them slowly, week by week, month by month, just gradually unravel and they kind of go from this is never going to get better to like holy shit, it got better, amazing. And to watch them go from sometimes quite strict like this is how it is, this is how it's going to be to just being able to go with the tide a little bit more, being able to be a little bit more flexible in life, being able to kind of cope better with things that are thrown their way. Like I love it. Um, like I love it.
Speaker 2:But also the other piece that, like we have to mention is the fact that I get to choose what I do each day, that I get to choose my schedule, that I get to choose who I'm spending time with, which clients I'm taking on. You know how I navigate situations, which can definitely be lonely, but yeah, like Rin said, you know we have got like her and I have got a beautiful friendship. I've got other networks of coaches that I've met along the way, that I've become friends with, either through certifications, just through Instagram or wherever. Yeah, I fucking I love that.
Speaker 2:I love, I love being able to choose that and I love that it works around my kids so that I can pick them up from school every single day and that I can go to the Easter bonnet fucking parade, and I can go to the assemblies where they're winning awards and I can be present, but also doing something that just makes me so happy and so fulfilled and just so wildly proud. So it's a fucking cool balance. I love all of that cool. So next question tell us a bit about your business, what it's about, what its main messages are, what its main missions are, the type of people that you tend to attract into help, and why. Why this mission like? Why do you care about it?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's so funny. I was like reading that before and I was like man, my, my business identity has changed so much. I feel like I go through so many business identities but I feel like I've really landed into, into this one and my business is really about healing and reconnecting that relationship to yourself because obviously, as a as a mom, as a partner, there's relationships that are really important to me and I noticed that those relationships blossom as I deepen that relationship to myself. Like so I was always trying to like you know, matt and I we did relationship counseling that didn't work because I was so disconnected to myself, I didn't understand who I was and I'm just fighting and not sure why I'm fighting. But now, the more I have a relationship with myself, the more I understand my own boundaries, my own needs, my own desires, and that's really, really important. So my biggest thing is like if you want better relationships with your kids, partners, friends, all of those things, it does start with you and also like, as a mom, that we tend to lose our identity, that that tends to go, and I want to really change that narrative. Like we are still women and I say to all of my clients I have clients who are mums and not mums. At the end of the day, you are a woman first, right, all of those roles and responsibilities yes, you have them, but you are also a woman first. So my biggest mission is for women to see themselves as who they are as well as have really beautiful relationships. So the women that I tend to attract, like I said I have, you know, women who are mums and not mums. It's like they're wanting to understand themselves more, they're wanting to really feel solid in their identity and who they are and they're also wanting to have better relationships. So I have a lot of women that come in with a lot of relationship wounds right, the ex-boyfriend, the emotional abuse that all of that comes out and I really feel like I attract that because I've also been that woman. I've been in really toxic relationships and, you know, really abusive situations and it's really important for me that those wounds don't cover the woman that they are. So we get to unpack that slowly and and feel into that and not live out of a life from those wounds. They're living a life from, like their pleasure and their joy and also experiencing those dark things in a really, really healthy and supportive way.
Speaker 3:Um, I obviously already touched on like why I care about it, but to be on the other side of that is something that I never thought I'd be able to say. I never thought I'd be able to sit here and be like, yeah, I'm on a podcast with my best friend and you know, my partner, who loves me dearly, is at work and I have a really healthy relationship with my kids and stepkids. I never thought I would be able to say that because I was so broken from the past relationships and the past relationship with myself that I thought that would never be possible for me. So, yeah, that's, that's a big thing about my business and and why I'm here. All right, steph, your business. What is your business about? The kind of women that you work with and that you're attracting and what they're going through, and then also why you deeply care about your mission yeah.
Speaker 2:So my main. I've got sort of three main focus areas that people come to me for. First one is that they're yelling at their kids all the time and they can't stop themselves. The second is that they can't form a fucking habit to save their lives, or they're like their habits are basically yanking them around like a dog on a leash, um. And the third is that their relationship with their partners is cooked and they still like for me it's more that they still love them but but they're just they're roommates is kind of like that.
Speaker 2:The kids kind of became the first priority in the family. I would say is probably my main thing. So I want to help women to firstly learn to look after themselves. Like Wren said, you know you're a woman first, and just because you shut out a couple of kids, it doesn't mean that your needs go away. And I think that that is such a fucked up narrative that, oh, you know, yeah, like mums run on empty, mums do it every day. Mums always put themselves dead last. And I'm like, yeah, that's the fucking problem, bro, like that's why I was so miserable, because I never considered myself I was eating the scraps off of my kids like plates for lunch Cause I just couldn't be bothered to make my own, or I would, you know, scroll my phone until midnight, even though the kids were still waking up multiple times a night, like I just wasn't.
Speaker 2:I found it like, cause my second and my third kids both had intolerances, and when it came to doing things for them, when I had to cut out dairy for my son and you know the fucking pretty much everything for my daughter, I could do that. I did that for a year because it was for them. But when it came to me, I would just eat shit and I would be drinking alcohol and I would be not getting enough sleep and I would not be, you know, asking for help and all of those sorts of things, because I felt like that made me a bad mom, because I had to put myself last, like that whole martyr syndrome, right. And I quickly learned when I did. You know it's so funny because I used to see people on Instagram or whatever going. You know like you just have to look after yourself. When you start looking after yourself, everything gets better. Blah, blah, blah. And I was absolutely that person that looked at them going. Yeah, but you can't do that when the kids are really little like, yeah, but you can't do that, blah, blah, blah. Like that's not true, I'm fine and I don't, you know, do all of the things that you're doing. And now that I do do all of those things, I was like, oh girl, you were in all sorts, you were in massive, massive denial and you were drinking to number two. So that for me, like I think my biggest kind of umbrella for this is that I want to help you to heal from your shit so that it is not dragging you around, but also so that you don't look back in 20 years time and go.
Speaker 2:I really fucked that up. Go, like I missed. I missed those kids. I missed those kids growing up. I like they're just gonna remember me yelling at them all the time. They're gonna remember me never wanting to be with them. Then they're going to remember all of that stuff. They're just going to remember that.
Speaker 2:You know, mum didn't really seem to enjoy what she was doing and I think that that would just be so fucking heartbreaking to look back and go. You know, like you see, all those, all the people that are cutting off their parents because they're, you know, their parents were awful and their mums were like massive narcissists and all of the things, and I'm just like things like that. It probably just gets worse as people are more connected to the internet. I definitely think the world's heading that way right where it's like everything is somebody else's fault and that would break my fucking heart if my kids cut me off because that's that's the way that I was. Um, but yeah, also from that perspective, like I want to help you to take radical responsibility and ownership for your life, because the amount of people that I speak to every single day that are just a victim to their circumstance, that are just like oh, I can't do that because I've got kids, I can't do that because of this, I can't do that because of that bullshit like you can do it.
Speaker 2:And and the biggest reframe that I made was what can I do despite that? Yes, it makes it harder, of course it does, but you can do it. You are just. It's really easy to use those excuses. It is really really easy to go no, things are just too hard and I just don't want to make that change right now.
Speaker 2:But when you do start to take the ownership and you do start to make the changes that you want to see made. When you do start to work on your relationship with yourself, with your partner, with your kids, with life in general, it gets better. And the beautiful thing about it is that you're no longer a tumbleweed, you know, at the mercy of the sea, you are like the fucking surfer who gets to choose which wave you want to take. And like that, that understanding that you are responsible for your life and that you get to actually choose the way that you respond, the way that you react, the choices that you make, the decisions and yeah, they might be the wrong ones sometimes and that's okay, but the fact that you can then go, yeah, I made that decision. It wasn't necessarily the right one, my bad, but like I own it and I just think that that's.
Speaker 2:For me, that was the biggest change, where I stopped blaming everybody around me for the fact that, like, my marriage was not in the best place, for the fact that I couldn't lose weight, for the fact that I couldn't eat well, for the fact that I was always tired and I went.
Speaker 2:How am I contributing to this? And that's, honestly one of the biggest, the biggest things that I do in my containers um, the kind of women I work with. Um, generally speaking, they are women who are struggling with emotional regulation, especially when it comes to motherhood. Um, they are struggling deeply with communication, so both with their kids and with their partners, and a lot of the time themselves they're often speaking to themselves in pretty shitty ways. Um, and just people who I would say that a lot of my clients have kind of hit rock bottom or nearly there and they're just like I don't want to do this anymore, like they kind of have that realization where they're like I am missing years of my kids lives here by being miserable, and that girl over there says that I could do something different.
Speaker 2:So, okay, let's do it and they really do want to sort of heal themselves so that they can feel better, but also so that they can show up as a better mom, wife, friend, daughter, all of the things I have a lot of passions, yeah, I was just like, yeah, there's gonna be a short episode, and I looked at the prompts and I'm like this is not just like, yeah, there's going to be a short episode.
Speaker 3:And then I looked at the prompts and I'm like this is not going to be a short episode. This is not going to be a short episode, Definitely not Never is Hello, okay cool.
Speaker 2:Next question so what modalities do you use? So tools, things like that, because I feel like this is something that we don't really speak about. We speak about shadow work and breath work, but we don't actually speak about what that is. So what are the core tools that you use? How have, how do you use those in your everyday life to support you, what do they do for your clients and how do you use those in your way?
Speaker 3:a lot of questions, my brain's like firing. So the core tools I use is shadow work. It is uh, somatics embodiment, somatics embodiment, kind of similar and uh, breath work. So they're like my main, my main pieces and I really like at the moment, oh, and obviously, nervous system. I feel like I don't I should say that because in my head I'm like that's just a thing that I do, but I really like to tie like all of them together to make that right.
Speaker 3:We can all do all these different certifications, but for me my main things is somatics and shadow work. Right, I just really really love it because I feel like shadow work is it's not about trying to release and like let go and you're now not that person and that part. It's like, oh, I'm just meeting this part of myself that has been shamed or repressed and you know it needs to be seen, it needs to be met with compassion. I think a lot of the stuff that I do is always like a lot of compassion and curiosity and understanding like why it's there, um, and obviously that understanding. All of that then comes into like pattern work and like habits and coping mechanisms and nervous system regulation. So they're like my main things and the reason that I love somatics is because our body is always trying to tell us something. Right, our body is always trying to tell us something and if the body has also gone through a traumatic experience, right, we can try and reframe and practice gratitude. But if your body is not on board, then it's not going to shift and I feel like somatics is really starting to come out and I and I really love that um, how have these modalities supported me? Oh, my god, I'm like a completely different person, like I feel that I don't know how to explain it, but like my head's actually on my shoulders.
Speaker 3:Like for a lot of my life, I felt like my head and my body are two very different things and I've always been living out of, like what I should be doing. Right, I should be able to get through this without crying. I should be able to like run a business and do all these things. I should be more organized. I should be a mom this way. When, now that I've integrated, like shadow work and somatics, I'm like, oh no, but how do I want to live my life? How do I want a parent? How do I want to show up, how do I want to be organized, like the small things have changed me and also understanding my body and when it feels unsafe, like I've been in a lot of relationships and friendships that have really used and abused me and I've just let it happen where I'm like now, I listen to my body and I'm like you know that gut feeling that you get You're like I don't really know.
Speaker 3:So I listen to my body a lot more and since doing that, like in the last 12 months, I've actually lost 14 kilos and that is just through taking care of myself, because I'm actually listening to my body. Because I was a personal trainer and I was like, no, I should be doing this and I should be doing this and I should be calorie counting and I should be doing all the things, and I was like, well, why don't I actually just listen to what's happening? My body is going through a grief process. My body is going through some big things. How can through some you know big things, how can I support myself even more? And I started doing that.
Speaker 3:So, in a nutshell, I actually get to listen to my needs and my wants and my desires and feel safe to move through that, to be able to go for my, my wants and desires, without feeling like, oh, I probably shouldn't, right, because in an ideal world of the shoulds I'm like I wouldn't be doing this, I'd be at a nine to five, with an income that I know that I'm going to get every single week, but that doesn't feel good to me.
Speaker 3:What feels good to me is like helping other women. So, yeah, what I've seen this work do for my clients, oh my God, so many things, right, right, so many things. Weight loss is a big one actually in my world and I didn't realize, um, like we had a retreat last year and all of the women coming out of the retreat like the month after, at least between like three to seven kilos, and it was like, because all of them, like I, do attract a lot of women who don't take care of themselves fully, um, so that happened as well. As, like I had a client who actually left her marriage and that was a really big thing because that was a marriage that was just like they tried and then for a while, and then it just wasn't working and she decided that was the best thing and now she's pregnant and has a new partner and in a beautiful relationship. Um, a lot of other things that happen is you know more sex, more intimacy, more pleasure.
Speaker 3:You get a lot of clients who are actually able to one be in and present with the intimacy, as well as like actually be like you know what no or yes and actually come from a really good place. More as well as like standing up for themselves. A big um blockage that I see in a lot of my clients is the incapacity to actually communicate anything boundaries, needs, wants, thoughts. Um. I had a client from a retreat last year. She was actually going to finish the relationship with her mother after having years and years and years of big, big things happen. Um, and then she left the retreat and actually they now have a relationship because she put in a lot of boundaries and feels really good to have those boundaries and was able to just move through that and see different perspectives. So she now has a really beautiful relationship with her mom.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, there's been so many things like I think that question. I'm like, wow, that's a lot. My favorite ones are definitely like the standing up for yourself, the ability to go. Actually that doesn't feel good to me. That's not what I actually want. This is what I want and this is how I'm going to get it like that empowerment piece coming from like almost like the victim archetype into into the warrior, into the queen, into the leader of their own lives. So yeah, love my modalities. I definitely feel that in the last year I've moved a lot more into embodiment work, and what I mean by that is actually like moving our body and listening to our body and releasing um, I definitely feel that my business is moving more into that, that feminine embodiment. So that's exciting. Yeah, all right, steph, all right your time for the tangent.
Speaker 2:My core tools so see again shadow work, somatics, breath work and probably a good, healthy dose of tough love. It's one of my biggest tools. So I do find that I do get a lot of women who come in, definitely in that victim archetype, in that martyr archetype, and basically I just won't stand for it. I love you, but how are we contributing to the problem? Um, I also, like I and I do that from a place because I love you and I know, I know that you can do better, I know that you don't need those excuses, I know that you can do better, I know that you don't need those excuses, I know that they've kept you safe but they are not helping you. And, like, I find that there's a lot of solidarity, especially in the parenting space, especially in the relationship space, in the after kids space, where it's oh yeah, like it's supposed to be hard. Oh yeah, like your relationship is supposed to be cooked. Oh yeah, you know you're supposed to feel like shit. Oh yeah, the kids are supposed to drive you insane. And it's like yeah, sometimes, but not all the time, like yeah, sometimes. I mean, sometimes my kids drive me fucking insane, like we're at the end of school holidays right now and I'm honestly I adore them, but like bye, have fun at school, love you guys, but then also like I'm excited to go and pick them up at the end of the day. So you know, there's the balance. But, um, I also do a lot in habits, patterns, all of that sort of stuff. Um, I love mapping patterns out, I love spotting patterns. It's one of my favorite things to do. It's so much fun, um, but I definitely also talk a lot about like the why behind your behavior. It's one of my favorite things to do. My clients will come to me and be like, hey, I'm doing X, y, z and I'm like, yeah, but that makes total sense from this perspective. And they're like, oh my God, what? Like the psychology perspective and just the way that your brain works. I think for me, knowledge is power and when you understand like for me, I need to understand something fully before I can work with it, before I can change it, before I can do anything I'm just like I want to understand how this works. So those are my kind of things. I definitely probably use shadow work the most, like the shadow work processes and they're sort of dropping into your body, learning the sensations, learning what it is that you're feeling, rather than kind of ducking away from it. Probably my main ones how they've supported me.
Speaker 2:Personally, I think that my tough love comes from a place of, like I used to speak to myself like I was a piece of shit all the time. Like all the time I'd be like you just need to be better. You just need to do better. Like why, why can't you stick to this? You suck Like you just need more discipline, you just need more willpower. Like look at that person over there. They're doing it. Blah, blah, blah. And so now I've turned that from that kind of talk into okay, you know we didn't do the best that we could here, but why, what's going on? Like, what's preventing you from doing xyz? What do we need? What support do we need? What help do we need? Who do we need to reach out to?
Speaker 2:Like I love looking at things and kind of looking at all of the pieces zooming right out and being like okay, what is going on in my life right now that is preventing me from showing up in the way that I know that I'm capable of, and it's like it's not a you're a piece of shit anymore. It's like it's not a you're a piece of shit anymore. It's like Steph, I know you can do better than that. It's like what's what, what's stopped, what's what's what's going on, that sort of thing. It's like I like to kind of unpack things with myself In terms of the emotional embodiment stuff.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm still definitely coming around to that. I'm definitely not as in my body as what Rin is. I'm definitely a. I'm a heady gal, um, but I have been definitely working with that a lot more. I feel like this year it's really taught me, and sort of like learning, a lot more about the nervous system and the fight or flight and all of that sort of stuff. It's taught me to recognize in my body when I am feeling that way and it's taught me to recognize in my body when I am feeling that way and it's taught me to use my regulation tools. So for me, I I like to feel strong. So I've been doing Pilates for over a year now.
Speaker 2:I've just taken a two week sabbatical, which has been killing me, but we're back tomorrow, um, but like I like to sort of see what my body's capable, I like to move it, I like to feel the sensations, I like all of that sort of stuff. Sometimes I will just put music on and just kind of like okay, what am I feeling? Like all the things. It still feels a little bit weird to me, I won't lie, but that's just because I'm not used to doing it and I do avoid it because it feels weird and that probably means that I need to do it more and I will get there. Right, I'll get there. It's definitely not on my, on my new 75 self-challenge list, and maybe it should be, but it's not because I know I'll avoid it and I know it'll make me fail. So we'll add that one in later.
Speaker 2:Um, but I think it's just kind of really taught me to recognize not just the thoughts in my head but also the way that my body feels when I'm not feeling good, when things aren't feeling safe, when things aren't feeling right, and to sort of. It helps me to catch things a lot quicker than what I used to be able to do in it, and because I've got so many tools at my disposal now, I'm much more able to to kind of work through those, and I think it's also given me permission same with Rin, like with the shoulds and shouldn'ts. Like, oh, I should be feeling this way, I shouldn't be feeling this way. Like I've had some pretty, I've had a pretty gnarly six months the last six months. Like there's been a fair bit that's happened and you know people love to try and comfort you through that Like, oh, don't feel like that, or you shouldn't feel that way, or you should be feeling this way, or you should, should, should, should, should, should, should. And it's really just given me the permission to be. Like, actually, this is how I feel and I know that makes you uncomfortable, but that's not actually my problem. So I'm just going to feel the way that I feel and I'm going to work through that without like I've found people that I can go to and be like this is how I feel and they're, yeah, cool. Like what do you need? Rather than the? You shouldn't feel like that. Oh my god, don't, don't do that, don't blame yourself, don't do this, don't do that, let me alone.
Speaker 2:Um, what I've seen do for my clients oh my god, do we have 50 years? Um, oh, definitely. Like, I see, I see them blossom before my very eyes like little butterflies and I love them so much. Definitely a huge reduction in mum rage, like a huge reduction, a huge reduction in yelling. Improved communication skills with their partners. So their relationships are deepening in that regard because they're able to actually speak about things that feel terrifying. Like I've got a client. She was messaging me a couple of weeks ago. She's like I'm leaving, I'm done, I'm leaving, I can't do this anymore. And I was like, hey, let's just, you know, let's just have this conversation first before we go, before we go, like packing our bags. And she did have this conversation and it led them to this really beautiful place where they were able to have a really open conversation and now they're doing better than ever and it's beautiful.
Speaker 2:I've seen, like other clients, move through huge grief pieces where they had been in talk therapy for years and years and they're actually starting to feel the things, moved through huge grief pieces where they had been in talk therapy for years and years and they're actually starting to feel, feel the things and they're doing amazing things. Like one one client in particular she lost a baby. Amy, she was on, she was on the podcast a few episodes ago. She lost a baby. Um, she's been like, obviously holding on to that for the last five years or holding on to that's a bad word working through that healing. From that you know all of the things, which is going to be a lifelong journey.
Speaker 2:But she has gone from she. She's been wanting to write a book for five years about her journey and she actually just just this last week she because she's had it all written down. She's she's a journaler. She's had it all written down and now she's up to like 13 or 14 chapters in the last week because we broke through a block that she was having around the whole thing. We've been working on that particular block for a few months, I think, but it really just clicked for her last week during a session and, yeah, now she's writing her book that she's always wanted to write, Like it's just, I feel like it's in the moment. It feels like really, really subtle, it feels like really small things that aren't really going to make that much of a difference. But when you look back six months, like when we're doing like our wrap ups and things like that, I'm like, holy shit.
Speaker 2:Another, actually another client I have to speak about this because it was so fucking incredible. She has had belly problems since she was 10. She's now 40, so 30 years. She has had belly problems since she was 10. She's now 40, so 30 years, and in our last session together we did a process around it and she was like oh, I feel like there's just things like running around in my belly, like they're just running everywhere. There's just they're everywhere. And I was like can you stop them? And she put her hands on her stomach and was just like, stop, they stopped. This was about a month ago now. She managed to stop it. She has not had a single bout of anxiety since. She has also been able to eat whatever she wants, with absolutely no bloating, no pain, no issues at all.
Speaker 2:And this woman was like avoiding food for the last 30 years. She also, like, every time she looked in the mirror, she's like oh, I'm fat, like you know, I'm ugly, I'm ugly, I'm fat, blah, blah, blah. And she's like the next day she messaged me and she said I looked in the mirror and I didn't see a woman who was fat or skinny. I just saw me and I was like oh, like, bawling, bawling my eyes out, because it was just such a beautiful note to end the container on. But just things like that, just like and there's so many of those stories and it's just I love it.
Speaker 3:I love it. I feel like there should just be an episode about all of the clients that we love.
Speaker 2:I know actually a couple of them have agreed to come on and share their stories, so watch this space um. Next question what lights you so outside of work? Let's talk about what you're passionate about, what you're currently learning, exploring or obsessed with. Cause Rin's diagnosed ADHD and I'm pretty sure I have it, but just can't focus for long enough to actually go down that route.
Speaker 3:Keep I keep putting it off Um and something that inspires your creativity or keeps you grounded such a funny question because I feel like we go through phases and at the moment I've been like deep into like work, right into the business, and it's because I fucking love it. Right, like when you love something so much, you're like I just want it to grow, I just want it, I just want to make more of an impact. So, like, obviously, my biggest focus this year has been like the business and trying to organize, but, like, the passion that I'm having outside of work is one finding some more hobbies. Right, I, obviously I'm a very busy person, like having three kids and we've had some, you know, family disruptions and you know work is crazy. So I've just been like focusing on like what, what can I do? That makes me feel really good. So that's why I mentioned the puzzles at the start, because I'm a terrible puzzler, like absolutely shocking. Like it gives Matt the ick, um, so that, and I've been building lego as well, so I have like the lego, flowers and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Um, it's honestly, I feel like the biggest thing this year is just like trialing and erroring, like I'm really passionate about trying different things. Like matt and I went to the burlesque the other night and you know we just go trampoline and you know logs, and I went down to the Hunter Valley to visit. So, like I just want to be doing things, I just want to be like finding things that really light me up and I like started back at the gym and I don't know like I'm really passionate about just taking every day as it comes and been like what, what can I do to create more connection? Obviously it kind of ties in with what I do, but like that's what I'm really passionate about. Like how can I have more connection with Logan? Um, like we've been doing different activity books. How can I have more passion, like you know, with Matt and intimacy and all of those things? Because, like every woman, like we have different spikes and libido. So for me right now I'm fucking tired. So how can I create more connection with him? Like it has been the puzzles or the lego or you know, just doing different things?
Speaker 3:Um, I'm obviously a huge reader. I could probably read three to four books a week. Um, sometimes that's a bad week. So I've been exploring different, you know, non-fiction and fiction, because I definitely love my fantasy and my smart you can't get me off smart. I did go through a really big mafia stage, which was really bad. So it's just like I just want to do things Like I just want to. I don't know how I'm like there's not like one pinpoint that I'm passionate about, but I'm like I just want to try all different things because I feel like for the first time in my life even though I'm really busy I actually have so much space to explore. So that's something that I'm really passionate about.
Speaker 3:What I'm currently learning, exploring or obsessed with um somatics 100% like I am so keen to dive more into somatics and to be, you know, to really take my modalities and my business into like a next level. Right, I feel like I've got the baseline. I feel like I've got things I actually have. So and I didn't realize it until recently, I have so much stability in my confidence of coaching right, like my biggest thing, because I am doing another certification. I said to them that I want to be able to walk into any room with any client and help them, right, that is the thing that I'm exploring of like cool, how can I deepen my attunement and my knowledge of somatics and all of that. I just feel like I'm in a really big expansion phase and I think that really helps because I do have a huge window of different clients, like mums not mums busy people. I do have a client who's an emergency doctor, like there's so many different aspects and I'm like cool, I'm just I'm expanding that. So, yeah, learning more about somatics is a huge thing right now.
Speaker 3:And also, uh, you know different layers of the nervous system. Like Steph and I were talking about this the other day because we are such nerds for our business Like there's so many aspects that we love and I'm not going to share it yet, but, like Matt and I, there was something happened the other day and I was telling Steph about it and I'm like I just want to understand human behavior so much. Like I wanted to understand the nervous systems and how we react and respond and the rupture and repair of relationships and literally I'm just like if you could, if I could just have like one day a week when no one talks to me and no one, I don't have to pick up anybody and I don't have to work or mum life, I would just spend that day honestly just reading and researching and having that entire day to just be like why do people do these things right? In a nutshell. So, yeah, on that tangent, something that inspires my creativity or keeps me grounded.
Speaker 3:So I actually have an interesting wound around creativity, like I was now, I always used to identify of like I'm not a creative person, I'm not a creative person, I'm not a creative person, and I've been exploring, I guess as well, like my own creativity, which is where the puzzles and the lego comes in. Um, because when I was talking to a brand coach, she's like, oh yeah, you gotta get your creativity. And I was just like, like I hate making social media posts, I hate branding, I hate all of those things. So I've actually been, you know, writing a lot more. I find that my creativity is through my writing. So, um, I actually have posts coming out with different pieces.
Speaker 3:So it's like my journal promise, but it's almost like a poem, but I don't know, it's something that comes into my head. It's like my creativity really comes through my words and, um, yeah, I've just been playing with that as well as my embodiment of like, how can I move my body? That feels really good. Um, and I've started posting a little bit more of my embodiments on social media because I really want to change the narrative of like that soft sensual movement is actually not sexual, it's not skanky and it's not for attention. It's like how my body wants to move. I want to be a sensual woman, I want to nurture myself. So, yeah, creativity wise would be embodiments and journaling and whatnot.
Speaker 3:And then what keeps me grounded is the sunshine that's slowly leaving so much fucking rain here on the gold coast. I just I don't know. I think since the healing journey, I've noticed a huge pull for me to be outside more. I'm really enjoying the sunshine and I'm really enjoying the day that it doesn't fucking rain, which is few and far in between, but I'm just really enjoying like just being. So, yeah, and that's my huge tangent of what lights me up. What's that, steph? What lights you up? What are you passionate about outside of work and kids, and what are you currently learning and obsessed with and what inspires your creativity and keeps you grounded?
Speaker 2:this is such a big question. So if anybody's into human design and manifesting generator, which means that, like, I'm also a gemini, which means that I am all over the fucking place like a ping pong ball, as a general rule, I don't know. If it's that, what are you laughing at? Just you and your ADHD? Oh yeah, or that, who knows? No, that hasn't. That hasn't been confirmed. I really do need to do that.
Speaker 3:I love the denial.
Speaker 2:I look, I'm not denying it, I'm just not confirming it what I'm passionate about outside of work look, this changes a lot. I tend to again, I know you're gonna laugh at this I tend to like go into I'll get really obsessed with something and then I'll get bored of it and I'll move on to the next thing, which I believe they call hyper focus that followed on from that.
Speaker 3:I'm not confirming it.
Speaker 2:It's not confirmed. There's a lot of red flags there. We're just, we're just hanging out. Okay, denial is not just a riveler in Egypt. Um, one day, one day, one day, and everyone will laugh.
Speaker 2:Um, definitely like the human brain and the way that it works. I think it's fucking so fascinating. I love reading. I got out of it for a really long time because I felt like I should be only reading like self-development books and things like that. And then I realized that, because I was.
Speaker 2:I was sitting down one day and I was like man, what did I used to like doing when I was a kid? And I was like I used to love to read. I used to read all the time and I was like I used to love to read. I used to read all the time and I was like what's the difference? And I was like the difference is that you were reading books that you wanted to read, not just self-development books, because I like self-development books, I like to learn, but they can also be very fucking boring. So I got back into my psychological thrillers, um, and that kind of put me back onto the reading train. So I'm a bit the same if, if I find a book that's really got my attention. I can smash that out in a day, no dramas.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm a quick reader, which I'm very blessed with. At the moment. I'm I'm I'm trying to listen to audiobooks a bit as well, so that I can like clean while I'm doing them, because doing one thing at the same time is just not a vibe for me. Um, so yeah, currently like nearly finished a book, and I was like, oh my god, I don't want to get on this. I need to, I need to finish this book. I need to find out what happens anyway.
Speaker 2:Um, what I'm currently, or other things that I'm passionate about. I like Pilates, I like moving my body. I think my husband's pretty great. Um, um, um, yeah, I don't know otherwise. I feel like. I feel like I'm pretty boring. I just kind of like sit in my cave and I do the same things. It's very groundhog day-ish. I was really into like doing my nails at home for a while, but I just couldn't get it working, so that's bothered me. I was really into plants for a while, but you know also, they kept dying and they require a lot of work. I'm gonna put a veggie patch in this year, though.
Speaker 3:I feel like this episode should actually now be spot all of the red flags for Steph's ADHD.
Speaker 2:Maybe she's born with it, maybe it's ADHD, what I'm currently learning, exploring or obsessed with. So I, in complete stark contrast to Lorinda, I am considering going back to uni to do a postgrad in neuroscience, um, which is basically polar opposite to semantics, but I feel like it would just kind of give me more of more knowledge about, like, how the brain works. I find that so, so fascinating. Um, obsessed with habits, I have just started 75 soft again for the second time because I felt like my habits were slipping, um, and I've added just a bunch of other things into it, things that I know that I should be doing, but I'm not an adult sometimes so I don't fucking do them. Like, literally, my skincare, morning and night, is one of my things because I'm so shit at it. Um, something else I've literally just gotten into on the weekend is bullet journaling. So same deal. I'm not a.
Speaker 2:I generally don't view myself as a creative person. I can write words, no dramas. I can write till the cows come home. I can talk till the cows come home. I love doing all of that, but when it comes to putting pen to paper in terms of drawing or anything like that, I am not. I generally am not a creative girly, so I'm trying to get more into that. I like made a little tracker thing for my, for my challenge, and I'm having so much fun with it. It's just like. It's just so much fun. Now I'm creating one for my diploma of counseling, which I will fucking finish eventually. I've been stop started on that for a very long time.
Speaker 2:Um, um, um, something that inspires my creativity would probably be my work. To be honest, unfortunately, um, I I have such a love-hate relationship with content because sometimes I feel like I'm a fucking monkey just acting in a circus and then other times I'm like I'm just gonna post what I want. So, um, I do love creating content that will help. I don't I like. I like creating the ideas behind it and it's why I do a lot of talking head reels, because I fucking hate actually making the posts. It's just not my bag, um, but I love sort of creating things that will create impact. I love doing stuff like this. For me, this is a very creative outlet, um, but, yeah, I am trying to bring in like the bullet journaling thing because I think it's fun. More my alley. I'm not really a sort of sit down and write pages and pages and pages about how I'm feeling, but I could definitely do dot points. So watch this space. It's probably going to be my next obsession and I'm already looking at like different pens that I can buy my husband's like for fuck's sake, stephanie, why?
Speaker 2:It's like it's my new hobby, things that keep me grounded, like definitely my kids. I use them as a like, as a like, kind of as a scale, like how I'm responding to them and how they are at the time. I kind of look at that to sort of tell me where I'm at, tell me like where I need to do some work. I love having like really deep conversations. I really struggle with shallow. What do you do for work? Like you know, how many kids do you have? Like I, that sort of conversation just doesn't, doesn't float my boat. I want to hear about like your deepest, darkest fears and like the things that keep you up at night and like the thoughts that are running through your heads and your beliefs. I want to know all of that stuff. That's that's interesting to me. I feel like I can get to know you a lot better as a person, um, but like honestly, I think the things that keep me grounded probably my husband, to be deadly honest, because he is the calm to my chaos like I am that insane psycho who's just like running a million miles an hour, like I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do this.
Speaker 2:And he's like he's been doing the same thing for 20 years. He has been running the same business for I think it's 10 years this year, actually. Good man. And he and he's like babe, do you really need to do another course? Like can you? Why don't you just focus on what you're doing? And I'm like I like to learn. Okay, get off my back. I'm not doing it because I think it'll make me a better coach. It will, but I'm doing it because I want to, because it's fun for me, because I like to learn, I like to learn, I like uni, I like writing essays, I like it.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's the things that like me. I just want you to like take that whole section and then send it to whoever you're going to see to diagnose you. Okay, that's what's so much fun.
Speaker 2:Were you taking notes. Is that what you?
Speaker 3:were taking notes about. I'm just writing. It's so funny because I am medicated right now and I'm like holy shit you are chaotic today, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know it's because you're talking to me about things that I like, yeah, and also like you know what. You know, what else actually really fucking lights me up these days is the people around me, because I feel like they are so fucking solid, like I see the posts on mom's groups from, like you know, oh, my partner treats me like shit, or like I don't have any friends, or you know my family's crap and I'm just like man. I cannot relate to that. I can't like I and I love that. That like my friends, like my friends are so fucking solid, like they are so there for me. I don't actually know if I've spoken about this on here or not. I think we spoke the day after, but I had an ectopic pregnancy a couple of weeks ago and I had to have surgery for it. And the day after I got home, one of my friends rocked up with this huge care basket from like five of my friends with all of these things in it like pajamas and hot water bottles and food, and it was just so beautiful and I was just, I felt so supported and they, they all check in on me like how are you going? Do you need anything? Do you need us to take the kids? Blah, blah, blah. Like my sister was doing the same thing. My mom was away, which is incredibly rude, but when she's here, she's a huge support to me as well, like my husband is also hugely supportive.
Speaker 2:Now that I've gotten a lot better at asking for what I need, um, but like that, like I don't spend time with people anymore who deplete me or who empty my cup or who just feel like hard work. I feel like I've just got such a solid crew, just such a solid crew, and I love that. I love that for me, yeah.
Speaker 3:And, like you mentioned, like we still have big things going on. It's just like I think the intention is so different, like they have themselves and they know when to lean on other people, where I feel like I see a lot of the same thing in other groups as well, and it's kind of like, well, they ask questions. I'm like do you not trust yourself to make that decision? I think that's a big thing as well. Like did I feel like maybe I was one of those people at one time? Yeah, yeah, probably. But like it's just so interesting the amount of trust that we have in ourselves and in our circle, right and I don't like when we were talking, when you were talking about that, I'm like I don't really remember that.
Speaker 3:last time I had a huge drama where it was so fucking petty Like I just don't have that in my life.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's just not a thing like, yeah, I don't have people making snide comments to me or snide comments behind my back or anything like that. Like, yeah, I just feel like everybody, everybody in my life is just so fucking solid and it's just it's cool. It's cool that lights me the fuck up. It really does all right. Next question tell us the real behind the scenes, what really happens behind the scenes. So what people don't always see about the work that you do, the hard parts or lessons that you have had to integrate, and why you keep choosing this path yeah, cool, great behind the scenes.
Speaker 3:Okay. So like, running a business is fucking hard and I don't mean that as like, yeah, like the, the day-to-day things is easy, right, write the email, post, post all of that, but it's like doing it by yourself, right, I'm the. I'm the person that coaches. I'm the person that creates connections. I'm the person that does the interest calls. I'm the person that does the. I'm the person that creates connections. I'm the person that does the interest calls. I'm the person that does the marketing, the tax, the finances, the KPIs, all of it right, the systems, the website building programs. Like there's not.
Speaker 3:I don't currently have anybody in my business, so that gets really hard of like managing to do that within the nine to two, as well as parent, and I essentially like run the house. Like Matt is doing really big hours and you know like that's my job, my job in our relationship, like he does a lot of other things, but it's like managing the house, um, so just being able to do that can be really stressful and I just and I'm more like not necessarily stressful, just exhausting, because you're like fuck, if one thing falls apart, it's because I've let it slip through the gaps, so like the organization part's really hard, as well as like what people don't really see is the meltdowns, because I feel like, steph, you're in the same boat. I invest a lot of my income back into the business like a lot of, because I don't see my business as like short-term whatsoever, like it's a long-term thing and there is constant upgrades or upskilling that needs to happen in the business that I'm in. So this could be like, um, you know, like certifications is obviously a really easy one, but it's like systems like just in our systems, right, like we have an email platform, you have a website platform. Then you have, you know, we have an integration platform, so the website and the fucking emailing system works together. Also, technology is really hard. And then you have, you know, like we have things like chat, gpt to help us with prompts, and then we have, you know like so much stuff like computer webcam, updating our microphone, like our phone needs to be updated every 12 months because we need, you know, better systems, right, I just had to fork out money for a laptop, like it's just all these little things that people don't see that I actually invest back in, and then, with my retreat coming up, I then have to pay the Airbnb, then I have to pay the photographer and then looking at getting a videographer, and then I have somebody who does food who gets paid for, and then I have to pay for the food as well.
Speaker 3:Like the amount of money that comes in and goes out is crazy because it just it constantly goes back. Because I want women to come into my world and feel so supported, I don't want them to slip through the gaps. But to do that and to continue to grow my business, I need to constantly invest. I even have a business coach, like Steph also has a business coach. Like they are not fucking cheap, right.
Speaker 3:So a lot, a lot of people don't see the amount of time as well. Like just because I try and do nine to two, nine times out of ten, I'm still working in between the school drop-off or I'm creating a post. Or like right now I'm creating a program and I've been creating that at night. Because when the fuck am I going to get time to do that? So a lot of people don't see the time and the effort that we put into it and I think that's like even talking about it now.
Speaker 3:The biggest thing that I really struggle with in my business is like not wanting to be salesy right, but I'm having to learn that you know it's not salesy because, like my intention is so pure, like I'm never, ever going to push somebody into working with me. If you don't follow the line to work with me, that's totally okay. But know me, if you don't follow the line to work with me, that's totally okay. But know that if you do work with me, you're going to actually be so fucking supportive and that combination of like not wanting to be salesy but like I put so much money into my business. So that's probably like the part that a lot of people don't see. Like there's not a huge margin in the current phase of my business, because I see the gaps and I want to upscale my business, I want it to come in, and you'd be like, holy shit, like this is awesome, I cost money.
Speaker 3:So the hard parts of all the lessons I've had to integrate one I fucking struggle with patience. Patience and me don't go well together because I want it now. Yeah, I see where my business is going. I really do. I just have to learn to be patient and take one step at a time and one day at a time. The other lessons is that, like the organisation part is really important. This has been like my main focus for this year Like my house is getting so much more organised, but my business is also getting so much more organised and that's been helping my brain, because I feel that I am somebody that likes to jump into things, but I'm learning to like just slow down and take a step and organize it before I launch it or before I post it or all of those things. So, yeah, patience has probably been the biggest learning curve for me and why do I keep choosing this path?
Speaker 3:And I think there are so many moments but like just watching somebody else change their life is something that I'll probably never get used to. Like watching someone walk in whether it's retreat or container or one one-to-one and be like I am beyond broken. I feel like nothing in my life is great. Like I have kids and I should be happy and I have a partner and I should be happy and I have this and I should be happy, but I'm not to watch them transform their own lives to be able to.
Speaker 3:I like I don't ever say yeah, I did that. It's always like I held space for that right, like to watch somebody take back their power after it's been taken, is something that I don't think words can describe. So like when I feel those moments of meltdowns and like, holy shit, that's a big bill and I have to pay it. I just think about my impact as well as like the impact that it has on my family, because I know it's not short term. I want to be able to be a sugar mama and I also want to be able to take my kids on holidays, and I have a really supportive partner as well, so that really, really helps. But, yeah, I keep choosing that path because there's women who need it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:All right, steph behind the scenes for you what people are not seeing behind the scenes, the hard parts, the lessons and why you're here.
Speaker 2:Cool, the hard parts, the lessons and why you're here cool. So I feel like my behind the scenes stuff. I feel like I do do a pretty good job of sharing that, to be honest, like I am quite honest about the way that my life runs and all of the things. Like I also do feel like I I don't know, I just get a lot of stuff done. Maybe it's the ADHD, but people definitely don't see the struggle when you're like multi-passionate like this and like I adore my children, I love them so much and I love my husband so much and I also love my work so much, and I just don't think that balance exists when you are that passionate about so many things. So I feel like people probably don't see the rush and the chaos all the time where it's like, oh my God, I'm like I'm fucking struggling. I do think I share pretty well about, like, the highs and the lows, and probably I share more about the lows than the highs. To be honest, my highs are always client related, my lows are often life related. But yeah, it can definitely be really tricky and I think the other piece that people don't really see is that I think a lot of people look at people like you and I who get to choose our schedules and they're like, oh my God, they're so lucky. Look at people like you and I who get to choose our schedules and like, oh my god, they're so lucky. Yes, but also the people that, like you, to do that, we have to sacrifice, and I sacrifice a lot of time with my husband at home because he works very hard to support our family. He is very much so the main breadwinner of the family at this point in time and again, I hope to change that one day, but it is what it is. But yeah, I think it's just that. And yeah, same deal, right where it's sometimes I'm up at 5 am working and then sometimes I'm up until 10 pm working and sometimes I'm, you know, madly rushing to get things done. Sometimes I'm recording reels in the school car park before I run in to get the kids, or I'm creating a post while I'm putting one of them to bed, or things like that, where it just it happens in pockets of time throughout the day and it's as much as I'm definitely working towards having scheduled work time, scheduled mum time, because I find that when the two cross over it it's not ideal. I don't always do that well and that is a huge trigger for me. So it is something that I definitely try to do, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2:The hard parts I would have to echo, like patience is so hard, and also just accepting that I can't move as fast as what people who, like people in the industry who don't have kids, can, because I, I do have kids and that's something that has to. It's so important and I don't get this time again, so it's like I can do both, but not necessarily as quickly. Um, I definitely also agree with the organization stuff, because I've just really been winging it up until this year, really been winging it in terms of the business. So this year, definitely learning more about putting those processes in place, putting that structure in place, doing things properly so that you know it is sustainable, and so that I'm not spending hours on the phone at night, like I would definitely like to start moving away from that. Um, just because I'm I'm starting to really struggle with the the night calls and things like that and the flexibility that's required of me at this point.
Speaker 2:Um, I think also like a really hard part has been boundaries, because I'm I'm a giver. I want to just give as much as I can, and I'm very much so like that, and then I give a little bit too much of myself. So that can be that can be a little bit tricky. So it's been a very, very to and fro about like, how much to give, how much not to give, how much I need to give myself, how much I need to give my kids, much I need to give my kids, my husband, like all of the things. Um, but why I keep choosing this path? Again, like I would agree with what you said.
Speaker 2:Where it's it's the work that we do is just it's not. It's not something that I can describe with words. A lot of the time, like even when people ask me what I do, I'm like how the fuck do you put that into words? Like I, I'm like a life coach is generally what I say, because everybody knows what that is, but I'm like a life coach that works with the subconscious.
Speaker 2:Um, because it's just so hard to put into words the space that we hold, the transformations that we see. You know, the, the, the bits and pieces that we, that we do hold. Like we hold deep grief, we hold deep trauma, we hold deep emotions, we hold just things that are so huge. We hold relationships breaking down, we hold issues with kids. We hold all of that and it's enormous and it's like, how do you explain that in words? Unless you've been in it, you can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you keep choosing it because, like, what fucking choice? Like there's nowhere I'd rather be. I fucking love it. I love it so much. I love holding that space and I love being that safe space for those people to land and those people to work through those things, and I love being able to, like, be an ally and be able to show them their power and, you know, being able to be there for them when things are just, when they just need to come and vent and they just need someone to say, man, that fucking sucks, I'm sorry, like I'm sorry, you're going through that and that's all that they need.
Speaker 3:Wow yeah, big question, beautiful. Well, we hope you love this episode. This is just an insight to us and I think it's like, after doing so many episodes now, it's like always important to come back to the reason that we're here is to make an impact and for you guys to see that we're actually very real humans, navigating real. You know life things and we do have things that we're working on as well as, like you know, running a business is not for the faint-hearted. It's. It's really not.
Speaker 3:Um, a lot of our personal development has been through running a business, has shown us so many different things, but the the reason that we're here, one comes from our own, our own big wounds and and past things, but also like coming out the other side of that, like we're literally two women who have really busy schedules, who have children and partners, who need us and choose the business life because we want to help you guys. So, to continue to make that impact, we would love for you to share a review, share some words with us, share it with friends. Like we want to make sure that this, this podcast, meets the right people, the people who need it now, the people who need a bit more of an impact, because we really wish that we had somebody there on that side when we were going through big things. So, yeah, love you lots, another episode and we'll see you next time.
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