The Masters Athlete Survival Guide
We explore thriving as an athlete after 40. Each episode, we’ll dive into tips, hacks, and inspiring stories from seasoned athletes and our personal experience. Whether you’re a weekend warrior or a competitive pro, this podcast is your playbook for staying fit, strong, and motivated
The Masters Athlete Survival Guide
A Day at the Arnold: Crowds and Comedic Moments with Dom Caselli and Marc Taylor
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BONUS A roundtable discussion (Sorry about the audio quality) Today, we share our adventures and insights from the Arnold Sports Festival, reflecting on how age impacts athletic performance. The festival celebrates diversity in sports and showcases the inspiring narratives of seasoned athletes.
• Exploration of the Arnold Sports Festival atmosphere
• Highlights from impressive athlete performances
• Observations of unique sports events like axe throwing
• Insights into the fitness industry's evolution
• Personal reflections on the impact of community and camaraderie
• Discussion on humorous moments and unexpected encounters
• Importance of adapting to age while staying competitive
• Acknowledgment of nutrition, recovery techniques, and their relevance
• Future plans for continued exploration in fitness and health
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Welcome to the Master's Athlete Survival Guide
Speaker 1Welcome to the Master's Athlete Survival Guide, where we explore the secrets to thriving in sports after 40. I'm John Catalinas and, along with Scott Feig, we'll dive into training tips, nutrition hacks and inspiring stories from seasoned athletes who defy age limits. Whether you're a weekend warrior or a competitive pro, this podcast is your playbook for staying fit, strong and motivated. Let's get started.
Speaker 2Hi and it's Echo Week, and I'm still John, I'm still Scott and we are live-ish from. Cincinnati man. I wanted to say Cincinnati again. We're in.
Speaker 3Cincinnati. We're not in Cincinnati, baby, if you've ever wanted to, oh boy.
Speaker 2Turkey drop. Well, if you can tell, we are in Columbus for the Arnold.
Speaker 1Sports Festival with our friends Dominic and Mark.
Speaker 2Who doesn't like to talk? Hello Hi, you know, audio is not the kids' format. What can we say?
Speaker 4All right, we're going to start that whole fucking process.
Speaker 2We are not no. Apparently, someone set the record for the first explicit word in this, so this will be an explicit podcast. Cost me a dollar more.
Speaker 1Really. They're all explicit. They all cost me a dollar more because of your potty mouth.
Speaker 4He's going to give you a dollar Because this is an audio format.
Speaker 2You can't tell that Scott is digging in his wallet to sarcastically throw a dollar at me.
Speaker 3How many podcasts have you made? He owes you like 20 bucks.
Speaker 5Oh good point Make it rain, Scott. Make it rain. Oh, I am more comfortable with all this.
Speaker 3It's getting better by the minute. Oh, all right. Well, scott, he is a doctor, so maybe it's.
Speaker 1What are you actually a?
Speaker 2doctor of? I mean we make fun of. You're not a doctor. What are you a doctor of? I have a PhD in educational administration, specifically pissing off moronic imbeciles like Mark.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 4That took a curve, I didn't know where that was going.
Speaker 3I'm not sure why he put you on the crosshair.
Speaker 5I thought that was coming at me. I'm waiting for the explanation on this one. I did.
Speaker 2Where's he going?
Speaker 3He's paying you the dollars. He's making it rain.
Speaker 1In this audio podcast.
Speaker 3He's doing a visual joke of making rain dollar bills on me. That's the guy with the doctorate. He threw him a wad of ones.
Speaker 2He threw a wad of ones on me. That's not the first time you've had a wad of ones stuff in your pants.
Speaker 3But he had another dollar for the explicit yeah, right.
Speaker 2Good thing it's not a per time thing.
Speaker 3So here we are at the Arnold.
Speaker 2Yes, thank you Welcome to the podcast so yes to Dom's point. Yes, we're here at the Arnold. John and I have competed here a number of times. Mark, you were here, was it last year?
Speaker 5Two years ago Two years ago when I blew my knee out Right when you blew your knee out, Dom.
Speaker 3if I remember correctly, this is your first time competing here and being here, Because normally is it Magnus, Normally both my kids have something going on. Both the kids have something going on.
Speaker 2It's not Cincinnati. So what Give us your off-the-cuff opinions?
Speaker 3There is a lot going on there is a lot of different. There is a lot of different.
Speaker 4There's a lot of stuff that I didn't expect, like there was axe throwing. I had no expectation of there to be axe throwing here.
Speaker 3And I don't know if it's a competition or just a.
Speaker 4I think it's a pay-to-play thing.
Speaker 3I never realized before that there was martial arts and stuff like that involved.
Speaker 5Where was martial arts Upstairs.
Speaker 2Dude, I never realized before that there was martial arts and stuff like that involved. Where was martial arts Upstairs, dude? Was it jiu-jitsu or was it something else?
Speaker 5At least one looked like taekwondo, judo or some jiu-jitsu.
Speaker 4Did they?
Speaker 5move to that, or did they? I thought they deleted it.
Speaker 2Jiu-jitsu for years it was like there were 900 that came in in jiu-jitsu like on late Saturday, early Sunday, and spent the day there.
Speaker 1But I thought they got rid of it. I thought so too. Same thing with Las Hightland. Well, you know what's weird? They ditched a bunch of sports for more floor space. But these are all upstairs in the meeting room.
Speaker 2This year they did, but they've always had a lot like that, mark. Okay, I mean you could technically get into the Arnold without a ticket. You need the ticket for like I know this sounds weird ticketed events Like the, you know whatever, or the expo.
Speaker 1Now the expo is the least expensive ticket but you could just expo only.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3Oh, that's what Tracy did, so you could just expo only. Yeah, oh, that's what Tracy did, so you could just come in and walk around and see the stuff that's in the expo area.
Speaker 2And you can go to the arm itself. If you were going to one of the small rooms, like with arm lifting, if it was all in A120, you would never have to pay for a ticket.
Speaker 3You never have to pay in time. Yeah, you could walk in there. Oh, that's true. Yes, oh time. Yeah, you could have watched it. It's true, you could have watched it.
Speaker 4Oh, that's true.
Speaker 3Yes, oh, I hadn't thought of that, yeah, you could come in and, like my wife, could have come in and watched me tomorrow and not had to pay it off.
Speaker 1Oh neat, I hadn't thought of that. Wow, that's interesting.
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Speaker 3Yeah, there was a rain gutter. There was a gutter. Like I said, if I was working for the gutter company and they were like hey, we want you to go to the animal, I'd be like no, nobody there, oh my god nobody there.
Speaker 2You know I came here for the bikini competition and to get my gutters. Yeah, that's odd, and they were those aggressive like at the counter fair people whoop, sir, how are your gutters?
Speaker 3and the Jehovah's Witnesses were up front too, those aggressive like at-the-counter people.
Speaker 2Yeah, sir, how are you good? And the Jehovah's?
Speaker 3Witnesses were up front too.
Speaker 2And they wanted to talk to us about our extended warranty. Yeah, so those were the weird things Did I say that I got another weird guess Foosball tournament upstairs had its own like meeting room.
Speaker 5Really, I had no clue. I walked upstairs, we walked Tracy, and I walked upstairs.
Speaker 4We walked. I walked upstairs, tracy and I walked upstairs. We're walking down the aisle and I look over and I'm like what Foosball?
Speaker 3Turn the handles a little Foosball, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4I would watch that. The thing is, you can't sound like you can see it.
Speaker 3I didn't know that it was easier. It's down in here I wonder if they have like cameras.
Speaker 2Camera overhead. Following the action yeah, competitive room there for a tournament. You entered a competitive foosball tournament.
Speaker 5Oh yeah, they had somebody up front, Is that like? Can I?
Speaker 2go pro foosball.
Speaker 4Can I be the David?
Speaker 3Beckham of foosball Cornhole, yeah, cornhole. You can call it cornball, I call it cornball Shut the frog up.
Speaker 5Rip it Exactly Nice.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 3But I. There was so many people there today, it was bad oh yeah, absolutely, it was so hard to move. And in the arena, what's that? The?
Speaker 2expo, the expo area.
Speaker 3Yeah, everything was a gigantic line to get free stuff Free energy drinks the signs up Wine and beer.
Speaker 4Yeah, the lady.
Speaker 2I felt like I was at Disney World with my kids.
Speaker 5I actually picked on one of those poor women. I'm like you don't have the most exciting job. She goes. No, how's the people watching she goes? You can't believe. I can believe.
Speaker 4So we were here a couple years ago and we were going into Menopause.
Speaker 2Yes, our buddy, ronnie's girlfriend, bought tickets to the Arnold Strongman Pro Finals for us. So we're walking around and we're standing outside the ballroom where it's going to be, because this is one of those ticketed events. We're standing outside this thing and there's these two 20-somethings that are, you know, they think they're all jacked up and whatnot. The guy goes yeah.
Speaker 2I've got pretty good big arms here, don't I? And the woman goes. I mean you could tell she was just, she had had enough. She goes. Those may be the smallest arms I've seen all weekend.
Speaker 3Look at what you're here at yeah right. He actually made that statement.
Speaker 2Oh, to the woman who was working here To one of the. It's the wrong person.
Speaker 3Yeah, Just like I said, there was that and he was a teenager, but he was in the it wasn't the rogue area but he grabbed the 15-pound dumbbell.
Speaker 4Oh that guy.
Speaker 3He was straining to roll the 15s.
Speaker 4Yes, and trying to get a pump at the Arnold where 90% of the people walking around have 24 inch biceps.
Speaker 3And that's the women.
Speaker 2And he was like a skinny kid. Oh, he's a little guy, he was not a big guy at all.
Speaker 5There were guys like that all over the place.
Speaker 3There were some monstrous human beings there.
Speaker 4There was a lot of furniture boys, that one family, a lot of mortgage guys.
Speaker 3That family we walked by, oh, the dad and the two sons, that were all like six foot nine.
Speaker 1Yes, Two of their shoulders were above their head.
Speaker 3Yeah, the guy's shoulders were above my head.
Speaker 2Oh, that was so weird. It was weird. It was a weird family above Scott's head. Oh yeah, this guy I mean Dom, we're walking along, dom literally stops, turns around and goes his freaking. He goes the entire family. His freaking shoulders are above my head. I look at him and I said, dude, they're above my head, those were some tall guys.
Speaker 3They were big, ripped, muscular guys.
Speaker 2They were just huge huge and they were clearly a family, so they are a race of giants.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, and then, there was a lot.
Speaker 3There's a lot of small, extremely jacked people, and I don't mean like little people. Small, I mean like guys that are five foot tall.
Speaker 4I think that's the only way, that are just ripped.
Speaker 2That's the only way, I think, you can be like those pro bodybuilders are not six foot tall because it's hard to throw a lot of muscle.
Speaker 5A lot of them are tired.
Speaker 2Oh, dude, if you're like 6'3", 6'4" and a pro bodybuilder you'd be 400 pounds.
Speaker 3Five foot two. Five foot three. That were just. You know, if they're on stage together they would look like massive human beings, but when they're walking through the thing they're just smaller.
Speaker 2Have you ever seen that picture? It came out a couple years ago. It's at the Olympia. Yep, it's at the Olympia and they've got the heavyweight men are out there and they're awarding prizes and whatnot, and the guest giving out the prizes and medals, Brian Shaw.
Speaker 3Brian Shaw, Now Brian's like what?
Speaker 26'7", 6'8", something like that. He was a former college basketball player Huge, he's tall. He, he was a former college basketball player. Huge, tall, he's huge compared to everybody else. He comes walking out. He's shaking their hands. It's the uncle next to the five-year-old nephew picture.
Speaker 3Yeah, it is freaking hilarious. But I would also I wouldn't mind, especially on like the Friday, when it wasn't as busy going around and seeing all of the stuff like foosball, you know and finding out what all is there, to explore it all, to see what I would like you know.
Speaker 2one of the failings of that is there's not enough of a map Correct.
Speaker 1Now, I did hear somewhere.
Speaker 2Honestly, as we were leaving today, someone said oh, did you open the app?
Speaker 5There is.
Speaker 2I saw a sign for it on the elevator.
Speaker 3There might be an app.
Speaker 5I didn't check it out but I did see the sign for it.
Speaker 3And the app might have a map or say, probably this hey, I know the thing's going to be in A120, where we were, or whatever.
Speaker 2I'm trying to mentally do a song with app and map in it, just because the map what, the map the who, the what the map, what the map?
Speaker 1The who? To what the map, the map.
Speaker 3Like Dora the Explorer.
Speaker 2Map. Yeah, there's a place you want to go, I can get you there. I know, on the map, on the map, on the map On the map. Hi, we're a bunch of dads that have kids that watch Dora. Yeah, so Mark watches Dora. The other thing, the other thing they didn't have the medieval guys beating each other with weapons.
Speaker 4God do you remember, two years ago I was looking for that and the guy lost his thumb.
Speaker 2Somebody just lost his thumb. He lost his fucking thumb. Oh, I didn't hear about that, guys walking off Guys chopped off? Oh yeah, Because it was full armor.
Speaker 3Oh, they're beating Blunted weapons. I've watched that on television, yeah, where they beat the piss out of each other and they do.
Speaker 2They're like wailing and you know, one guy's got like a fighting hammer and one guy's got like a stick and they're just hammering each other.
Speaker 1I saw a shake of my stick at you.
Speaker 2What this guy's got? A fighting hammer and you've got a stick.
Speaker 5John, he's LARPing again. Let it go, oh Thanks.
Speaker 2Look at him with psychological terms.
Speaker 3So what did you not see that you wanted? Is he going to start LARPing? I mean?
Speaker 2there's still tomorrow. Do you mean in terms of like athletic events or in terms of boobies? You said boobies, boobies, boots, boots. Oh, you saw boobies today. I thought you said boobies. I think everybody did.
Speaker 3I thought he said boobs too. Tracy, did I say boobs? Don't drag her into this.
Speaker 1She doesn't want to be here, so we can't afford to have five people, both Athletic events and boobs.
Speaker 3In terms of boots, mark was upset because or who wasn't there? Bells of Steel.
Speaker 2Well, that was me. Yeah, because we had to replace the 200-pound sandbag at the compound. Bells of Steel is what we had for our 200. So Bells of Steel wasn't there. Why did we have to replace the 200-pound sandbag? It's ripped, it ripped in one of the seams, on one of the compounds From getting you so much. Spud Inc hasn't been there for a number of years and he's got some really neat stuff that we use at the gym.
Speaker 3I love my bow tie Spud's pretty good.
Speaker 2Who else wasn't there? Some of the cool t-shirt companies from the past weren't there.
Speaker 3I was upset because Kind of Fit Kind of Fat wasn't and I wanted to get a shirt. I didn't see them anymore.
Speaker 2There's. I mean in terms of I might have missed them.
Speaker 3That's true. I mean, I didn't see what.
Speaker 2I noticed is that there's a lot of protein type of foodie stuff there. A lot of the booths shrunk. Well, the cost $3,000 for one instruction, yeah, but I know it probably was $3,000 last time too, but maybe they, you know, I guess, if you lose a ton of money, I will also say that the thing that and I won't.
Speaker 3I won't go into the business aspect of it, but I it's amazing how much stuff they give away for free, like there are some of them they were pouring like the energy drinks into little cups, but a lot of them were just giving away.
Speaker 4Here's a can. Here's a can. Here's a can.
Speaker 3Well, the case was. You know the case from I don't know. Whatever it is, it's out in the truck. No, it wasn't Celsius, it's OxyShred or something like that it's giving away a whole case because it expires this month. Right, that's one thing, but they gave away thousands upon thousands of cases.
Speaker 4I saw cases, but nonetheless all of them Celsius rain.
Speaker 3That tells you how much money they make on those products to begin with right that they can hand out 100,000 of them in a weekend, and it's still worth the money.
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Speaker 2Rain and pile said they had brought 5,000 cases of rain Right and there's 12 in a case.
Speaker 3I don't drink at 24. I don't drink any of that stuff so I don't know, but it's amazing. Like the five-hour energy, those five-hour energies are five bucks a bottle or something, aren't they?
Speaker 4A little, yeah, a little one-shotters, and they were just like here you go, here you go here you go, you know, that tells you the markup of how much the markup is that they can afford to give that much away at this event.
Speaker 2Or they get hooked on it.
Speaker 3It might be worth it to them. You know, we gave John one can, and now he's like hey.
Speaker 5I really like that and that's what he, even though I wouldn't sleep.
Speaker 4I can't sleep normally until I sit at my desk you should put a desk in the bedroom.
Speaker 5I thought about that, but they won't let me. They being your wife, no, they being the bosses, your bosses. I said you should put a desk in your bedroom at home oh, you can sleep at your desk.
Speaker 2Hey, you know, we expose things.
Speaker 5There are some there are some dispatch centers that have a have a. Murphy bed fold down off the wall so the dispatcher is a 24-hour dispatcher and can sleep until the tone's popped.
Speaker 3What about you? What did you not see that you want to see? One or the other, a sport or a booth? What?
Speaker 1did I not see?
Speaker 2I didn't see as many celebrities floating around, like new or old, like I think I took a picture with TJ Dillashaw Dillashaw, yeah, the last year. It was like oh look, there's Magnus, ruf, magnusson, there's.
Speaker 1CJ Fletcher. Oh, there's Lee Haney.
Speaker 2There's Jay Cutler. They were in that. Rodney Coleman was here, he was rolling around, he was there. There, when Ronnie Coleman was here, he was rolling around, he was there. There's always been the. You can go see them. You know, pay money and go see them.
Speaker 3But they were also just wandering around.
Speaker 2I still think you might see a lot of them tomorrow, because tomorrow is going to be the day Arnold's going to be there, and you can always tell where Arnold was.
Speaker 3Oh God, you can't get near it.
Speaker 2His entourage is even an entourage it looks like a field trip for a whole high school or something. But if you remember, a couple of years ago you and I were standing outside talking to one of our friends at the Highland Games and we're just sitting there chatting, chatting, chatting.
Speaker 4Oh he's holy shit, Magnus, how you doing.
Speaker 2He turns around, there's Magnus from Magnuson just walking by. That's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1Or Kieliszkowski.
Speaker 2McKay is Kieliszkowski, because Kieliszkowski?
Speaker 5We went to the SBD booth with Big Z and Evan Singleton. Singleton yeah, just a stand in line, walk up. Well, dude.
Speaker 1So the way their booth was that year. It was almost like a tractor trailer.
Speaker 2And it had, like this mezzanine level, stairs up the side to like a little. Juliet balcony. And. Ron and I are standing there and I look up and I'm like man, that dude looks a lot like Big Z, and then you realize it is, and then you realize that no one's paying any attention. No line. Really, I don't think they knew he was up there at that point because it was early. Yeah, they figured it out eventually, but we just walked right up.
Speaker 3That brings up the, and we know how much I pay attention to a lot of this stuff. I'm not as into it as you guys are, but the Young LA section. Massive section DJ up there literally. That's the first time I was there and most of the people there. I have no idea who they were Lean Beef Patty and that's only because I've been following her on Instagram for years.
Speaker 2I was following her when she only had like a few thousand followers.
Speaker 3I, I I followed her because she just popped up as the fitness thing. It was one of the ones that I followed because she gave a lot of good tips for flexibility. Yeah, um, and there was a time that I was working towards trying to get more into fat. Nice calisthenics, right. Um instead of having the flexibility of a concrete block that I currently have. You know so that, but that out of all the people in the pictures and the names, up there.
Speaker 4I have no idea who any of them are.
Speaker 1I don't even know what young.
Speaker 3LA is.
Speaker 2I've never even heard of it, dude. First of all, I've never heard of it before. Saw the giant. I mean that booth was three quarters of one wall.
Speaker 1Yes, oh yeah, and 20 foot tall. But, I think it was also an event stage in there.
Speaker 2But here's the other thing there were multiple stages in there. Yes, Did you notice how much young LA clothing there was?
Speaker 3I was like LA Fitness when we were kids.
Speaker 2There were just tons of them. Yeah, is there were just tons of them? Yeah, I mean, you're right, I don't know. I think it's just a brand. I think, and I'm assuming, all those people we don't know are youtubers and tiktokers jay cutler was in that area too, well, you know he probably
Speaker 3owns part of it or something. Oh, you might, yeah, but a lot that might be part of the influencer culture, I guess yeah, which?
Speaker 4Yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 3we're not there, Slightly removed from it.
Speaker 2So, but yeah, that was the most shocking. I didn't see as many celebrities, not as many sports this year either, and not as many sports Like on the floor. More sports, right, okay, they basically made more room for booths, and then I don't think they sold as many as they could. Wasn't that pushing all the sports into the rooms, yeah, no those rooms always had sports in them.
Speaker 2They've always been there since I've been there Granted, it's only four or five years that I've gone but those rooms always had this sort of niche sports. But like they deleted, like Highland happened, where, what was it? What's there now? That was kind of dead space. Oh, the fancy powerlifting area. Yeah, over on the left, over on the left, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3Towards the.
Speaker 2D-Star and it was probably most of that size.
Speaker 1So, Highland got caught yeah.
Speaker 2Well, Jiu-Jitsu would come in on Sunday and they would take probably a third of that wall. You know what else they did that whole area. They didn't have American Ninja, of course, yeah.
Speaker 5Oh, ninja Landmars, they had the thing where you could go in and sign up, but that was an Air Force booth. No, that was an Air Force booth. There was this like three, this huge line.
Speaker 3There was rope. Climbing back in the young LA section I saw that.
Speaker 2Oh okay, what I thought it was it was like a almost like a Jacob's Ladder wall. Oh, I saw that. Where it was that rock climbing wall. That's not what I'm talking about. That's what.
Speaker 3I thought you were talking about. I'm sorry oh you're talking about the rolling rock climbing wall. I did see that that was.
Speaker 2It was that that to like come this way down the chin-up bar things that we used to, you know the monkey bars, and then go back on the loops and all those other guards. It was a quasi-ninja thing, but John's right, I mean they had full ninja courses.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I used to love watching the Jacks and it was the way they had.
Speaker 2It was two lanes. So it was ninja warrior race yeah, so that was pretty neat. So it was Ninja Warrior Race, yeah, so that was pretty neat. So yeah, I didn't realize that had gone away. I am glad today is Saturday. It's the second day of a three-day thing. I'm glad we walked around on Friday, because today was not super enjoyable.
Speaker 3No, it was too many people in there, I'm telling you that the fire marshal code was broke. There was that many people. There's no way that space. And it was especially those center two aisles were just hard to move in.
Speaker 2The worst place was by the main stage, but that's always like that, but it was bad.
Speaker 5The Celsius area was ridiculous Because they were just strung all over trying to get away from a free can of Celsius and a free powder stick.
Speaker 3I will say the food prices weren't as bad as I expected. Like I said, subway a six-inch Subway was $7. That's cheap. And you guys bought wings and I bought a burrito. There's still burrito left in there. I know I couldn't even eat the burrito, but I got. I mean, I got a. There's still burrito left in there. I know I couldn't even eat the burrito. It was so big and it was delicious. It was a steak burrito and it was like 18 bucks.
Speaker 4Yeah for a festival. Pricing For a festival pricing that wasn't bad. Like I said.
Speaker 3Subway was, you know, seven and a half bucks for a six-inch sub, and it was you, which isn't to me ridiculous. There isn't a lot of food at that, though? No, but it's a lot easier to be able to grab something there than it is to leave and come back. Did you see that?
Speaker 2you could get like prep meals, like the little trays.
Speaker 3Those have been there for a few years too yeah, just different spots.
Speaker 2It gets moved around a lot.
Speaker 3Somebody else told me that they said, there was another different culture, cuisine, and I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2There was a Japanese restaurant.
Speaker 3There was a Japanese place, but there was a third one and somebody said the food was fantastic and it was cheap, and I cannot remember for the life of me what it was.
Speaker 2I more, and in this industry and the health industry is getting bigger and bigger. There's a lot more attempts to make the sugary protein stuff again this year. I mean that one booth that looked, you know I said we got to go check it out.
Speaker 4The fruit butter, whatever it was nut butter stuff there was well, I mean, it looked like an ice cream thing.
Speaker 2When you walked up there, it did it. Butter stuff there was, well, I mean, it looked like an ice cream thing.
Speaker 3When you walked up there, it did it looked like a gelato move, but I personally I understand that because, well, you basically eat pretty solid keto right. Well, it's nice when you can get some sort of treat, because you know you cut the sugar out, but you still want a treat once in a while.
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Speaker 3Well, there's a lot of keto stuff that does that now Something like a candy bar, like you guys did the protein things, but to be able to do that. But now they're also pushing a lot of protein into that sweet stuff. They're putting protein in everything. Yeah, they're seriously putting it in. I mean, look at the nut butter thing. It was one gram of sugar and seven grams of protein for two tablespoons, or something like that two grams of sugar, three net carbs, seven grams of protein and two tablespoons and two tablespoons that's a lot of protein for two tablespoons.
Speaker 2But I mean two tablespoons, three carbs. I mean, if you think about it, okay. So if you're, the ratio is not good. No, but if you're conscientious when you do it, like Dom is saying, it is something where you can get a sweet taste, and there were so many candy varieties across the board.
Speaker 3Yeah, there was. There was 40 varieties. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2But think about it.
Speaker 3Trust me. I know there was a lot of brands because the woman, the woman and man in front of me tasted every one of them.
Speaker 4I was like I just want to try one.
Speaker 3We waited like seven minutes to try one.
Speaker 2That was the two women that were in front of me.
Speaker 3She was like can I try this one? Can I try that one? The guy just kept looking at me like sorry dude, I'm just going to let you try everything.
Speaker 2What would you get To that point?
Speaker 4we went up and visited a friend of ours who had a booth for Serious Steel. Shout out to Serious Steel. Big shout out to.
Speaker 2Serious.
Speaker 4Steel they I said to him.
Speaker 2I said, all right, let's get some smelling salts, because he owns his own smelling salts and they are, without a doubt the best smelling salts on the market, not a sponsor. Not a sponsor yeah, welcome to death. And I said to Justin I said, hey, you know, all right, you know, let's get a bottle of the root beer and give me a shirt. He says, dude, we're done with the salts, we are through them all. He was absolutely shocked.
Speaker 3Oh, when you today, Today.
Speaker 5Today. Yeah, because John bought his yesterday, I got mine yesterday too, yeah.
Speaker 2And I mean those salts, are phenomenal.
Speaker 3Yeah, I cracked John's bottle and inhaled it. It pretty much ripped the left nostril right off my head. Still throat, oh my.
Speaker 5God, what would you do if you put your nose right into?
Speaker 3it. Oh, I would have died.
Speaker 2John did that. Was it last year that that happened? Yeah, we walk up last year and they normally have them in rank of intensity. They did this year too Well, one was apparently not put back in the right spot. John walks up, grabs it, just cranks it, shoves it right up to his nose because he thought it was one of the weaker ones.
Speaker 3It was that new eucalyptus one?
Speaker 2It was last year's new version. I would probably like that. I thought he was going to die. Justin and I are talking.
Speaker 3He. I thought he was going to die. Justin and I are talking, he looks over and he's just laughing. I would probably like that. I still think you need to push him to make a bourbon one, I think a bourbon is a no-brainer. We can talk to him tomorrow because it'll be less busy tomorrow.
Speaker 5Not that you'll ever smell the bourbon, because you can't smell anything once you take a hit.
Speaker 2You can smell the weaker ones better. Yes, you can. A little bit the weaker ones?
Speaker 3Yes, you can a little bit, as it fades is usually when I get the smell.
Speaker 1Once you're regaining your vision, once your vision comes back is when I get the smell. You know what else I noticed.
Speaker 2I don't know, maybe it's just who I noticed, but the demographics seemed younger. It might be just how we were looking this year, but I mean it was catering to a younger crowd.
Speaker 3Maybe you're just getting older, well, amen.
Speaker 4Yes, but no, yes but no, but I think that whole you know.
Speaker 2To your point. Earlier, john, you talked about that young LA area over on the left-hand side. That reminded me of some Los Angeles like fit expo. What do you think the fit expo is like? Do you think it's super like West Coast-y?
Speaker 1Like a little more bougie, a little more. You know what I mean Could be, I don't know. I don't know. We have to go sometime.
Speaker 2They have the grip thing. Ode does some. Yeah, Ode does that out there.
Speaker 5Yeah, speak it up.
Speaker 2Is he around this? I saw him, I looked.
Speaker 1He's running the Moss.
Speaker 2Which is like in 121 or something.
Speaker 1I actually didn't notice where he was. Oh, is he running the Moss? That's one of the things.
Speaker 2I wanted to try and catch is the Moss. I think he owns the Federation out there the US one.
Speaker 5Yeah, I think he owns the federation out there in the States, the US one?
Speaker 2yeah, I think he does. Yeah, I just want to own a federation. I'm going to start a federation.
Speaker 1Start it. I'm going to start a federation.
Speaker 2Masters of Rip. Yeah, we talked about that at one point.
Speaker 4Can we do it seated?
Speaker 2Maybe that could be actually challenging. I saw the best, worst thing today. Okay, guy in a t-shirt in a wheelchair His t-shirt says I skipped leg day.
Speaker 3Oh.
Speaker 2God, it gets better. And the other guy. And there's another guy. No, I can't. Yes, you can. No, dude, it was, he wore the shirt, you're not the guy in the wheelchair. He says he wore the shirt. Yeah, what did his shirt say?
Speaker 3no day is like day, no day is like day, no day is like day.
Speaker 2Jesus and I guess he gotta embrace it. I miss that. I saw some guys in wheelchairs.
Speaker 4Well, I miss that and some of the okay.
Speaker 3So and I understand this is people there with and I get it you want to get out, you want to come to an event and you have a very small child.
Speaker 4With people pushing a stroller with a newborn.
Speaker 3There was one guy pushing one of those four-kid wagons and the kids were absolutely miserable.
Speaker 2Well, think about what that means and I get it, I've got kids and about what that thing is. And I get it, I've got kids and I took my kids everywhere.
Speaker 3I tried not to take my kids to places where my kids were going to make other people miserable.
Speaker 2But John, what did we see today that we discovered the? Remember it was down at the end of the Fit Club.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, yeah and yeah those people with the wagon did not put their kids in the van, you think Because he was like mad, because people weren't getting out of his way. Yeah, but he had a wagon that was literally like three by seven with these kids and it's like pushing a sheet of plywood through the place, yeah.
Speaker 2The best thing is when you're walking along and, like you said, some of those like central corridors that the people really just, you know, disney kailh crammed through there when the uh, the service people would be pushing one of the rolling dumpsters through there and people are giving them a dirty look. So what did I do? I made sure that if they were going in the direction I was going, I got right behind them. It's like driving by in a snowplow.
Speaker 3Some of the navigation like when I lost you guys, when we were headed out and I got to where my destination, I turned around and I was like where the hell did they go?
Speaker 2And then I got an all-cap text from John. Where are you? All you have to do is make one quick left when I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 3Yeah, You're gone. Scott did that this morning when we got there.
Speaker 2Well, there were reasons, I know, I just poofed.
Speaker 3I wanted to go and see some of the other spots, and then we were sitting there and saw your brother.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And John waved and I flipped him off Nice. Now, what did you not see sport-wise that year?
Speaker 2We didn't watch a ton of sport, but there wasn't a lot to watch.
Speaker 4You had to dump off the fighting.
Speaker 2The jiu-jitsu was fun to watch. It took up a lot of space. They brought in 900 jiu-jitsu dukos, god. I mean they brought in like 900 Jiu-Jitsu Duko, god. I lost the word. Oh, it doesn't matter it doesn't matter. It's the practitioners. I cannot remember the word for it right now. I think we're going to live it up.
Speaker 2No, let's just say the word Sprinkles. Jiu-jitsu Warriors, jiu-jitsu warriors, jiu-jitsu sprinkles. You guys are Now with extra Jiu-Jitsu sprinkles While serving Jiu-Jitsu sprinkle number 217. No, but there were 900 of them. I mean 900 Jiu-Jitsu artists would come in and they just so they had a huge area of mats set up Like 7 am. They did the Strongest Firemen.
Speaker 1Like not the finals, but the prelims were on the floor so you could watch those guys do that. The finals were on the stage.
Speaker 2The island was a thing and that ninja thing. So I mean the only sport. So pro strongman's behind a paywall. Right, you had to get another ticket and go there.
Speaker 1It was female America's strongest firefighter on the main stage, arm lifting on that other stage.
Speaker 2They had the pro amp down at the one side. Pro amp strongman.
Speaker 1You know, I saw him set up for powerlifting and I never saw anybody actually powerlift.
Speaker 2A lot of it you had to watch on the Jumbo TVs up top.
Speaker 5We watched it on the TV. I was going to say I can see this the form weightlifting.
Speaker 2people are in the hallway. Yep.
Speaker 4But they had a nice warm up, but they had a nice warm-up, and they were super popular.
Speaker 2Those oddly lifters had been in the hallway for a number of years.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2But I mean there were a lot of people that was part of the congestion in the main hall was people watching Olympic lifting.
Speaker 5We stopped by. I watched the warm-up room. That was more interesting watching how they propped up.
Speaker 1It's funny.
Speaker 2I didn't know if he was serious or not. He looks over and he goes oh, that's like 110 kg, that's a pretty decent deadlift. The guy cleans and jerks no, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't a guy, it was a woman. Oh, was it? Oh, yeah, she did right from the ground.
Speaker 4She just yoinked it over her head and John's like yeah, it's even more impressive, more impressive because you got it over and over.
Speaker 2Oh, wow, Listen to me. I love female Olympic lifting because they lift the bar just as much as they need to and then zip their body up.
Speaker 3Oh, gotcha and then stay in spot. How did that just happen?
Speaker 5They make their technique into an art form.
Speaker 3Yeah, we don't have to do that. What?
Speaker 2That's what, tony yells about all the time. Pull yourself under the table If your technique is spot on. When you're a smaller lifter, the weight that you can move is astronomical.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2Yeah because theoretically you're doing it.
Speaker 3You throw it, you get it to hover, then you get under it and you leg press it.
Speaker 2Using the force.
Speaker 4You watch them, you'll actually see their arms pull as they drop.
Speaker 5They're pulling themselves under more than pulling their arms up?
Speaker 2Probably true. You know, in this world, I think I've never met four people who are least likely to ever lift a cliff.
Speaker 3I actually wanted Natalie to teach me, yeah, and she sent me a video of I know Because of the cross-cut me and she sent me a video of she sent me a video.
Speaker 3She said you start with a piece of PVC pipe and train yourself to do it and I tried. I didn't say I succeeded. I said I tried nice because there was a stint there where I was like I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, but it's too much jumping around and my ankles are already too wrecked for it.
Speaker 3I'm thinking one of these is going to put me down and I'm going to end up with a 45 kilogram weight on my head or a PCPVC pipe across the eyes.
Speaker 2When I was 40, I went to a gym to try to learn. Like CrossFit Buffalo, you walked in one way the other way was Olympic lifting, and this coach, steve Titus, a friend of mine, knew he just I'm like I want to learn Olympic lifting. He's like, okay, do this. This, this, this the first thing he did. He goes okay, go down on that rack down there and just let's work on mobility a little. And he was trying to be so polite, but you know my rack position is Right.
Speaker 3Oh, but that's funny. Yeah, that's the thing I can't, I can't. There's no way I'm racking that to my chest. I don't think I've ever had a rack position it's like I told you.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, so your arm's supposed to be backwards, supposed to be up on your deltoids? Yeah, no, it's just, we're too old.
Speaker 3It's sitting on my chest, yeah, I was going to say at one time I actually, when I did enough front squats I could put the weight on my chest.
Speaker 2Yeah, whatever I do front squats all the time, I still can't do that. Yeah, I just do the cross.
Speaker 3I don't have the flexibility. Did you ever? Yeah, I used to be able to do it, but then I picked a heavier path and that all went away and my flexibility went in the pot.
Speaker 2That was back when I started. You mean a heavier sport path or a heavy body path Both actually.
Speaker 4That was when I was doing martial arts.
Speaker 3That was back when I was doing martial arts and transitioning into weight training. So I was very flexible. I had a hard time with the word transitioning and letting it go Just for that.
Speaker 5That's why he's giggling.
Speaker 3Is that why he's giggling? He's over here kicking me laughing.
Speaker 2That's why he's giggling Great.
Speaker 4Because I went from.
Speaker 5You know we're nothing but a bunch of 50-plus-year-old school children. Speak for yourself, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2Is there a 60-year-old division in arm lifting?
Speaker 1Did I ever get an answer? Technically, yes, you could be in a class of all my years. You get to compete with him. That's what I'm waiting for.
Speaker 3Your competitions at the compound will be junk.
Speaker 2No, you get to compete with Ode. I guess I'm not going to break any of his records. Huh, no, how about that?
Speaker 1Did.
Speaker 2Ode lift today for arm lifting no.
Speaker 1Did Ode lift today for Ironman?
Speaker 3No, I don't think he does it much anymore. Well, we were at the Olympia.
Speaker 1Where were we? Did he?
Speaker 4He did no he lifted I thought he did, yeah, he lifted.
Speaker 2I remember watching.
Speaker 4At the.
Speaker 2Olympia. I think he did the Open. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1You're right, yeah he did I mean he did lift at the Open. I don't know.
Speaker 3I never, got to watch them.
Speaker 5I don't know Between being in the room a good chunk of the day yesterday and then probably all day tomorrow.
Speaker 4I don't care to watch anymore arm lifting today you don't have to stick around and watch me lift.
Speaker 3Sure, I do, I mean, I appreciate it, you do. You guys don't even have to watch me lift. Just don't leave Columbus without me. Just don't forget that I rode here at the backseat of the truck. Can we leave Cincinnati though? Yeah, you can leave Cincinnati as long as you go to Columbus hey. Scott.
Speaker 2As long as you go to Columbus, did we forget? Something I don't know Wait wait, I don't know, but Tom's blowing my phone up.
Speaker 3Bench in the back of the truck. The bench is there. Yeah, that's the thing we are going to have to do tomorrow morning is creatively pack the truck. So, that when we get there to park we can get that bench in the back.
Speaker 2All we do is the stuff that you know would have been above seat level. We put down to where your feet were sitting or up in the front seat and just put the bench across the back seat. Scott bought a bench at Rogue.
Speaker 3It's ugly green.
Speaker 5Sorry, I forgot we were podcasting I traveled down a different road.
Speaker 2We've been doing that the whole trip. I'm like the narrator We've been buying benches the whole trip.
Speaker 5No, we've been traveling down different roads. Oh my God, I don't know, if Jim had that?
Speaker 2kind of disposable income. I guess Nice, it would be nice, it would be nice.
Speaker 1What do they do?
Speaker 2with all that stuff they just set up. You mean in terms of the equipment, yeah, rogue does, they'll use their. Rogue has a big setup. Yeah, but no, what he's talking about is like all the plates that are being used, all the competition stuff. The different federations own the equipment that they use at these competitions, oh oh. And then, like places like Ricardo with Ironlifting, he's using Rogue plates. Yeah, and you'll see what happens, because when we stopped at Rogue coming in, they've always got that sort of garage sale going on, but the garage sale is usually some random shit and a bunch of plates, but it's never a bench, it's never a Smith machine.
Speaker 2You know what I mean? No, you're right, but no, you're right, but I'm sure they sell that stuff too.
Speaker 1When I went to.
Speaker 2Nationals last year, everything was for sale, Like all the racks. Everything was for sale.
Speaker 3For instance, if anybody that works at Rogue is listening to this, what is with the massive gym set up at Rogue Like they actually run classes there? They do, they do. It's an active gym.
Speaker 5I don't believe you. I believe it's an active gym. I I don't believe that. I don't believe you. I believe it's an active gym.
Speaker 2I don't know if it's an active gym, they have banks of lockers in there.
Speaker 4That's what I mean.
Speaker 5They clean out every week. Sign yeah, they have comms there.
Speaker 3Oh, they have comms there. Okay, I figured they just like film their commercials there or something. Yeah, I don't know, it's a weird space.
Speaker 1It's a huge space. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2So, Mark, I love it. You know what my favorite part of podcasting with Scott is when he whispers in the background.
Speaker 5He thinks it's not going to be picked up.
Speaker 3No, it's slightly picked up.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know, it's slightly picked up and everybody stops to listen to him. Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1Mark, what was your impression of today, today or whatever? So, mark, what was your?
Speaker 2impression of today, today or whatever, just that 100 billion people was ridiculous.
Speaker 5You couldn't like. Everybody said you couldn't move and people were slamming into you, not even Karen who's Karen?
Speaker 2exactly your girlfriend. But wait, wait a minute. I don't quite think there was 100 billion. That might be a slight exaggeration. Not't quite think there was a hundred billion. That might be a slight exaggeration, not by a lot.
Speaker 4I am a doctor, I can't count.
Speaker 2He is a doctor of education too. Didn't he say count, though he's not a doctor of mathematics, oh no See.
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Speaker 3No, he's like the count from Sesame Street. I've always been about that, johnny Sandman. Ha ha, ha oh my God.
Speaker 5But no, the amount of stuff there is great If you know you want something or need something. I'd be like we went looking for Cerberus when we first got here yesterday because I needed a new grip shirt, stuff like that. I mean it's great because it's there, but there were stuff in it.
Speaker 4Like I love.
Speaker 5Silverbacks, fitness, their shirts and stuff. They aren't there. I wish they were, it'd be great, but this is what it is, but you know, there's always something new.
Speaker 2There is Every year. We found something to sort of add to it, Like when we did the podcast on protein bars. Some of the protein bars we tried were. Quest, yep. We went over and tried their milkshakes, which were really good, oh, really good, really good.
Speaker 3Very high in protein. Yes, weirdly high in protein.
Speaker 2Yes, those. What was the name of those bars? Oh, those butters. It was the Quest. It was a specific brand.
Speaker 5I can't remember Questero bars.
Speaker 2Well, no, they the Quest. It was a specific brand. I can't remember the Quest Jero bars. Well, no, they're, it's a version, but we're talking about doing another protein bar. I think we have to they keep coming out. Yeah, there's so many of them, but these were delicious.
Speaker 2I mean these pushed way the heck past some of the ones that we had before, like the peanut butter, like taste. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what. Somebody's figured it out and it started with those damn key lime Bear Bells. Ones Protein bars are about as far away from the pure protein disgusting.
Speaker 5Oh, the chalky bar, chalky bar, chalky bar Square.
Speaker 2Yeah, when we were kids, oh yeah, so Did we have protein bars when we were kids?
Speaker 5I so did. We have protein bars when we were kids.
Speaker 2I don't think we did. I ate them on a sandwich.
Speaker 3That's what I was going to say I think yes, sir, I think a sandwich. I downloaded the Arnold app real quick just to see what is it. There's a map, there's a schedule there's a literally you can buy tickets, a list of sponsors live streaming. That sounds like idiots you know, I mean it's literally, you can search through the exhibitor list. I mean you can plan your trip to see what you want to do. So for future reference, we really could have laid out exactly what we wanted to do and how we were going to get there All right.
Speaker 2So when I edit this podcast, I can make the decision on whether I want to take out the. You know what they should have. They should have a map.
Speaker 3Yeah, the very first thing. You can't, you've got to leave that the very first thing. Expo map Is it show booths or is it?
Speaker 2I mean does it get that specific? Yeah, oh God. Well, that would have helped Dom. And it tells you yeah, it's this way.
Speaker 3It's this way. Dude's going the wrong way.
Speaker 2No, I'm telling you, it's this way, it's this way, literally it tells you what.
Speaker 3Oh my God, what's the word I'm looking for? I?
Speaker 2don't know Sprinkles. What corporation is where? Yeah, you know here.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, beefcakes and cracked spice and airway. Hey, that's what I was looking for airway, shout out to airway. I bought a two-pack of their mouth guards today. Did you put?
Speaker 1it in your mouth yet? No, I have not. That's what she said.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, and the leaf guard people that shows where they are, the leaf guard, that's again one of the weirdest things.
Speaker 2Where is one of the six different booths for beauticians? There were a lot of young ladies taking advantage of those beauticians, though.
Speaker 5There was All those damn curling irons. It was hotter than hell. Walking past that Temperature went up. Seriously, I don't disagree.
Speaker 2Scott's looking at me like I'm insane.
Speaker 1You are insane.
Speaker 4You're not wrong.
Speaker 1Hi baby.
Speaker 4Why did you just say that's dumb?
Speaker 3Well, it's kind of cute, oh nice, and there's also a show schedule. You know, cheerleading and dance, GTMA I don't know what that is Gymnastics, martial arts this is all tomorrow. Weightlifting.
Speaker 5What is GTMA? You don't know, I don't know. It's a lot of martial arts groups that were upstairs.
Speaker 2Grand Theft, michigan.
Speaker 4Global Traditional Martial Arts and you can click on the thing, alright, so here's arm lifting okay from 9am to 10am interestingly enough, that's wrong.
Speaker 3Oh wait, oh, I'm sorry, this is arm wrestling.
Speaker 5Hold on my bad, there's arm wrestling. Yes, I heard there was, but I never saw where it was. There is arm wrestling.
Speaker 3Arm wrestling is from 9 to 10 am. Whereabouts Can we?
Speaker 4enter. That I don't know.
Speaker 3Sunday, it's the finals and the super matches from 9 am to 6 pm. The arm lifting is here and that's from 10 to 4, it says Wow has women's and men's division in all standard weight classes and it lists the events rope, double overhand deadlift, three-inch sax and bar and the rope, grandfather clock, you're kidding.
Speaker 2So it has an insane amount of detail about everything. Yep, we were like, hey, you know what would be a great idea? Yes, no one ever thought of this Grappling what is grappling Wrestling.
Speaker 3Is it wrestling Like grappling?
Speaker 1No, then why would they call?
Speaker 3it wrestling. It's got to be different Grappling industries. Follow around Robin. You can look it up in the app. It's got everything. It's hysterical.
Speaker 1It probably always is and there's
Speaker 2different power lifting.
Speaker 3There's USA power lifting and XPC power lifting. It's got it all Really.
Speaker 5Yeah, xpc was on the end from where we were.
Speaker 1Their warm-up really was oh yeah, you can find tests through here.
Speaker 3It's funny. You can activate your own badge through here.
Speaker 2I mean it's. I see there's a badge for life. You don't need your stinking badges.
Speaker 3Yep, you can reserve an autograph or photo If you want to reserve time to meet one of the famous people you were talking about or meet me.
Speaker 1John Catalinas is in room 120 from 10 to 4. World's smallest caters. I will sign one object only per person. Try to keep the brand you know secure. I'm not looking at Scott right now because I'm sure he's doing something dumb, not? At all. You know what's disappointing.
Speaker 4What makes you think that I wasn't going to?
Speaker 2bring it up, but we are like 45 minutes into this thing.
Speaker 5Are we really? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1Someone hasn't worked in their joke of the day, yet Our. Shakur.
Speaker 3Yeah, it makes me sad Our Shakur that we haven't looked at yet. Are you Shakur?
Speaker 2So Scott decided that the funniest thing in the world was somehow to very, very bluntly and roughly work in Tupac or Shakur into random conversations. Well, he missed earlier that Don told you that he bought the mouth guard. It was a Tupac.
Speaker 1Ah see, there you go. That's Scott, there you go. You didn't stick that in your mouth yet.
Speaker 2No, that's what she said there's Scott. Same joke you already did.
Speaker 3I know he did. Would you like me to do that while we're on the podcast? I can get it.
Speaker 2I actually have it deeply interested in that, don't you have the? Formals Probably to make them better, but I'm sure roughly it fits you, just shove it in.
Speaker 5This is going to go alright.
Speaker 4I did buy one to try because I use the New Age now. Right, I'm going to have to toss that airway.
Speaker 5What did?
Speaker 2that guy tell you at New Age. So I might tell him, because now with the new tooth in the New Age one, you've got to go somewhere with that.
Speaker 3now, with the new tooth in thing, you're going to have to tell people you have a tooth or something because that's just some.
Speaker 4His tooth is why I use a mouth guard.
Speaker 2I have an extra tooth added to my mouth that helps me chew.
Speaker 3Do you remember the woman at the airway? When he was looking at me? She said do you bite down hard? And he was like not really. And I said you broke a tooth.
Speaker 1You broke a tooth.
Speaker 3What a beer lifting and she just looked at him and he was like all right so maybe I do which one's that? The orange case, one I don't know yet, oh they come in the same pouch, sorry.
Speaker 2Yeah, they're held together Because I like the form factor. This is the heavier one.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the heavier one Dom is putting it in his mouth.
Speaker 2He's wiggling his jaw, he's picking corn out of his teeth. I think so.
Speaker 5I didn't eat corn this week, but he thinks.
Speaker 2He's got a quizzed. Look on his face.
Speaker 5Well it's not for him.
Speaker 2It's going to feel weird, yeah, but I mean, like the reason I went to the New Age booth when I got the new tooth and I remelted it and refitted it. It makes me gag every now and then, like it hits something back there that I never had that problem before. It's just bulking up sometimes, yeah, so I wondered if these would be better.
Speaker 5I bought one to compare and see where I want it. Yeah, new Age makes a thinner one too, do they not? Yeah, they do. Like we have the 60S. They've got three versions? Yeah, they have four versions.
Speaker 2One the fourth one, I think is like a mouth guard Anti-score, like a kid's sport. No, like it's a mouth, it's a front tooth guard. That's when you're going to need to be formed.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2But that's no airways, the one where there's stuff on both sides of your teeth, right like there's a little thing that grabs the outside of your teeth.
Speaker 3It's yes, yeah, oh, he swallowed it. No, it does not make me gag.
Speaker 2Oh, okay Do you put it on the bottom or the top.
Speaker 1That's what she said. Bottom yeah, bottom Okay. I don't think you can go on top. I guess you could, I don't know.
Speaker 2No, because she was saying that you can put it on the bottom because it forces the tongue.
Speaker 5Oh, that's right, it forces the tongue out of the way Keeps you from being a dumbass and playing with your tongue.
Speaker 1So preliminarily Dominic you think it's going?
Speaker 2to do what you want it to do. I just I wish there was a way you could.
Speaker 3I mean, it's disgusting but I wish there was a way you could try it Right, absolutely Stick it in your mouth. Yeah, I don't care for this fit.
Speaker 4Right, take it back out.
Speaker 3Yeah, and it says right on the package, the red one, which is the lighter duty one. I guess you could say he said duty Is the relaxed fit.
Speaker 2And the orange one is the bell-bottom fit, the snug fit.
Speaker 3I thought we were going jeans. So the one the PX1, is designed with a wide bite channel and delivers a comfortable, relaxed fit, and the PX2 is designed with a narrow bite channel and delivers a more snug, more secure fit.
Speaker 5One of them should have a thicker bite plate too, airway not as responsive.
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Speaker 3Yeah, that one's definitely going to have to be formed, because it won't even fit on my teeth. Oh. Is it the same design just thicker.
Speaker 5Yeah, does it have that little? When I talked to the yesterday, I talked to the woman she showed me the difference there's. They've got one that's more strength training, power lifting type stuff that has a thicker plate you can see, very easily see the difference.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this one's much better. That's definitely going to have to be heated to be formed because that's not even fitting on my teeth like that. Okay, this one can pop right in.
Speaker 2That's cool. I'm curious Are you going to try it tomorrow when you compete? Yeah, I will.
Speaker 3Oh, you should form it, then I, yeah, I will. Oh, you should form it, then I'm going to. Yeah, and she said you don't have to throw it in boiling water so you can do it in the microwave. Yeah, she said, just put some wet paper towels in the yeah, wrapping it in a paper towel.
Speaker 1Oh, it's funny because I just reformed the New Age one. Their forming instructions are super specific.
Speaker 2Bring water up to a boil, put it in hot water for 40 seconds then, put it in cold water for I don't forget, or no.
Speaker 2You let it out for eight seconds, then you form it, then you do the anthrax and then you put it in cold water for I forget, but like the 40 seconds, not 41 seconds, we probably turn it into goo if it's this. When I was a kid, you know you'd form them for sports. Oh my God, there were no directions whatsoever. You had a piece of plastic that looked like you know the channel and it says just boil it and you know whatever. And you put this thing it's like molten plastic on your teeth and yeah, in the package.
Speaker 1Oh, there's more stuff, but wait, there's more.
Speaker 3No, it's literally just two. You get two mouth guards, two cases. Each case has a carabiner on it, Doing this for the podcast, since it's not visual. So each the color-coded. The cases are color-coded. That's literally the only difference is the color?
Speaker 3One's orange and black and one's red and black. Are the mouth cards orange and red? One mouth card is kind of semi-clear and red and the other one is semi-clear and orange. Both cases have a carabiner on them and there is a card inside with the QR code that says scan to view your fitting and usage instructions. Oh and there's two different QR codes, one PX1 and one PX2. So they have different directions. Nice Well, that makes sense.
Speaker 5Did you buy any? I bought the one with the heavier bike plate. Do you buy anything else besides this From the airway? No, oh, I went to Serious Steel got some smelly salts and the rolling stick the original stick, I got the short one some smelly salts and the roller stick for the massage and operation.
Speaker 2The original stick I got. The short one Is that the original stick? I?
Speaker 5thought they called it the little or something like that.
Speaker 2I've got a longer one at home, but it doesn't fit my gym bag. Justin's company for that is called the original stick. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3Also of note. I'm sorry to interrupt. They gave me a veterans discount also. Did they make you prove it? I showed her my ID. I was actually wearing this anyway.
Speaker 2A shirt, yeah.
Speaker 3I was wearing my CBMA stuff, my combat vet stuff, but she said, oh, we do have a veteran's discount, so that lowered the price. More Nice, which I truly appreciate.
Speaker 2What else do you have, Marcus?
Speaker 5Oh, what else was there? Oh, the Grade 8.
Speaker 4Oh, you bought that. You bought the Grade 8?
Speaker 5Oh, I love that I have to listen to you guys talk and try Yours, I think, was the one day at your place. I actually liked it a lot. It's one of those things.
Speaker 1You can take it to work.
Speaker 3Yeah, on the bean here, you can take it to work, and just Is that what the noise makes.
Speaker 5Yours doesn't make that noise, mine did last night, when I played with it.
Speaker 2That pregnant pause was brought to you by our 17-year-old brains.
Speaker 5Your shirt.
Speaker 2You got a server's shirt.
Speaker 5I got a server's shirt, because I'll need that in June. It's required. What are you doing in June?
Speaker 4We've been through this.
Speaker 5Nationals for US Strongman.
Speaker 2Did we talk about that one? What federation is that? Uss?
Speaker 4US Strongman yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, is there another?
Speaker 2federation Strongman Corp. Strongman Corp is the one that works it up. Can I start my own?
Speaker 5federation.
Speaker 2Didn't we just start that? I'm trying to bring it back.
Speaker 4Okay, yes, you can what do you want to do?
Speaker 1I don't know what do you want to federate?
Speaker 2I don't know. I'll tell you what. Whatever I federate is going to have an app and the app's going to have a map.
Speaker 5Why would amp To show all over the country where the Federation is represented.
Speaker 2Because it ain't crap. Okay, stop, john, you're done. That was horrible.
Speaker 5Hey John.
Speaker 2I know, shut your mouth. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3Oh, and I also got my reusable heating pads. Oh, those things, those chemical.
Speaker 2Yeah, those are great, they get hot. Yes, they get very warm, they get really hot. Alright, John, you've been asking a lot of questions what did you?
Speaker 1buy, I bought that thing, that squeezy you're pumping your hand through.
Speaker 3I bought that thing. Oh yeah, what was it called? I have no idea.
Speaker 4Oh, you've got to go back and get your hand massaged by the way.
Speaker 2Yeah, you can do that tomorrow.
Speaker 5I feel bad for the woman the one that sold you that thing?
Speaker 2Yeah, it kind of reminds me of almost an acupressure. It is an acupressure, yeah, it's an acupressure, I know. Basically, it's a clamp that goes over the meat of your hand between your thumb and forefinger. I saw it, did you like it? I love it. It releases something. You carry a lot of immobility there. You see, I didn't feel it when I tested it. Yeah, I didn't either.
Speaker 3I really didn't I did. All I got was I tightened it down until it hurt, but you know, not like all those other modalities.
Speaker 2If you don't have the problem, you don't need the thing. I did see the Hidal people again. The wireless oh with the TENS thing. Oh, I saw them today. We bought those a couple years ago and we got a hell of a discount on those. Yes, did we buy that on Sunday? Was it one of those deals like we should sell some of these?
Speaker 1I don't know, I just remember we got like no, we bought it on Friday, we bought it first day.
Speaker 5Oh okay, there'll be a few booths that will drop their prices tomorrow just because they want to get rid of stuff and they don't want to haul it back.
Speaker 3I just wonder you think they're going to run out of rain and Celsius Oxygen shredder. Oxygen shredder.
Speaker 5Giving cases away. There was still a ton of them today when I walked past. Oh, I got more energy drink booths this year.
Speaker 2That's true, there's a lot of. You know why Jocko had one. Oh, I like Jocko Go, by the way, I didn't see that, but I saw a booth. Did you guys see the booth where you can meet with them and make your own supplements Like?
Speaker 1if I wanted to launch a supplement lineate, those people were there.
Speaker 2I want to make a liquid protein lemon bomb thing they were there when you say they?
Speaker 3who exactly are they? The chemical company? The raw chemical company?
Speaker 2I know what you can federate a grind federation. You have gotta be careful that doesn't end up to sound like the Canadian ballet. If you don't know what that is, I'm not telling you. No, yeah, the grind federation. That sounds like something about.
Speaker 5It's like oops, I downloaded the wrong movie.
Speaker 3Yeah but I mean, look at the. There was a clothing distributor there called Pumpdog.
Speaker 1Which I never heard, but I was thinking I just thought it was.
Speaker 5You know, it's a funny name for anything, Much less the clothing company I had one pet peeve for this weekend, it was the amount of crowds there, and these idiots are throwing t-shirts into the crowds and watching people almost brawl.
Speaker 3I did not see that. I didn't see a t-shirt. Where was that coming from? It was, I think, celsius was doing, not Celsius.
Speaker 5Who was? I think Celsius was doing it, not Celsius. Who was it? Probably Red Bull. No, it wasn't Red Bull.
Speaker 2Red Bull was the one that had the giant trucker and stuff like in the middle of the DJ.
Speaker 4DJ in the truck, remember, because he was like he said something and he looked at me and was like that's a fantastic beard and then went back to. Dj.
Speaker 5I forgot that.
Speaker 4That was the one kid.
Speaker 5There are so many energy drinks. Well, if you think about it.
Speaker 3Think about how many you drink, how many you drink, how many you drink. And you guys are not their target right. Their target is these 20-somethings that are living on these things that are drinking five or six or seven of them a day at three and a half bucks a crack.
Speaker 1Which, apparently, is probably a product that costs them like a nickel to do.
Speaker 3Right, oh sure, you know that's a huge the fitness industry as a whole. But the energy drink supplement, you know all of it. That's huge as a whole, but the energy drink supplement, you know all of it, that's that's huge.
Speaker 2That's more money than plates and weights. And yeah, cause I guess the other thing is that how many?
Speaker 3energy drinks versus how many 40, 45,. How many 45 pub plates do you need and how often are you going to buy them Right? I mean Scott's still got ones that are 40 years old, right?
Speaker 1Yeah, or older. I mean it's not like they go bad.
Speaker 3Right, right, yeah, or older, I mean it's not like they go bad. They don't go bad I remember that was at work the one time they said we're buying a new dumbbell rack because the guy that sells the stuff said, well, yours are old and they're chipped. I was like the 45-pounder still weighs 45 pounds, who cares?
Speaker 4Exactly I mean you're right, you sell a weight at a buck and a half a pound.
Speaker 2You're never going to replace it, unless something happens. All right, so we've been going for just over an hour now. We've talked a lot about what we saw, what we sort of looked for. Didn't see what our thoughts were. Two questions, to sort of go around the world Given what you saw, would you come back and what was your overall opinion?
Speaker 5Mark.
Speaker 4Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 5I saw how he pointed For those listening at home.
Speaker 2he said Mark, and pointed at Dom, and we all had to take a minute to see if we were having a stroke.
Speaker 5I mean second time here, first time as a competitor yeah, I'd come back.
Speaker 2He just did the thing like first time, first time in a long time.
Speaker 4How do you even realize? That's what?
Speaker 1I would say I would come back An overall impression. Yeah, I mean Saturday, not a fan, just because of the amount of people.
Speaker 5but Friday wasn't that bad, it was enjoyable.
Speaker 2The thing is, though, we do the Friday-Sunday and Saturday just you know that's sort of the price you pay.
Speaker 5I think yeah, and we were there two, three hours before we said enough. So now that we left because we really didn't have any shopping to do. That's the same.
Speaker 2So tomorrow, tomorrow, we'll probably watch the arm lifting, or I will we need to do a little wandering we've got two friends that are competing, you know, and a lot of the pros that you know. You and I don't see pros for years or, you know, throughout the year. Right, that's when we get the chance to talk to them.
Speaker 5The crowd and I had a blast with talking to them, yeah, and while we were competing then I ran into a guy in the kilt Will, will, will Ran into him today at the actual and him and I stood talking for a few. Yeah, I like him. He was pointing me to places to go. Do you use this here, head over there?
Speaker 3Or do you like this Go over?
Speaker 2there, yeah, yeah, yeah, he wasn't a wizard, he just had the app.
Speaker 5He had the map.
Speaker 4You're kidding, he was holding up.
Speaker 2Dom. What do you think?
Speaker 3First time here, first time competing here.
Speaker 2First time competing.
Speaker 3I will very probably come back if I can. If I'm available to yeah, all right. Overall opinion. Overall opinion I'm available to yeah.
Speaker 2All right, overall opinion.
Speaker 3Overall opinion. I have to ask a question how much was Tracy's visitor pass $100?
Speaker 2million.
Speaker 5Gary, what did you pay for the three guys I was?
Speaker 4always the $9.12 guy, considering how much it costs to compete.
Speaker 3I would just do that, especially since you can walk around the line to get in, that's the thing, I would even just pay it, and then, even if I wasn't, competing Right.
Speaker 2Because it's like a speed pass Right. As a competitor, you can get in even earlier than the early admits.
Speaker 3And I'm not condoning buying a participant and signing up for an event and then skipping it, but I don't understand why it costs so much just to get in the door. I guess maybe because they can charge that. How many days are you going to be there? Three days, that was a three-day pass.
Speaker 2The one that was like, yeah, we're going to report it.
Reflections on Competitor Experiences and Celebrities
Speaker 5Well, because theoretically you're watching America's Strongest Firefighter, right, you're watching a lot You're seeing a lot If you get to see it, you can see a lot Right I?
Speaker 2wonder some people must sit and camp at the main stage and just let things happen.
Speaker 5Watch a goal.
Speaker 1Well they have.
Speaker 2VIPs, you can buy a gold pass. It's like $500. Does someone?
Speaker 5carry you around.
Speaker 2Well, you get VIP tickets to the bodybuilding finals, to the strongman finals, to the so basically you get all the spectator expo pass hype to the max. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, mr John.
Speaker 5What.
Speaker 4Big bad.
Speaker 2John.
Speaker 5Yeah, no, that's a thing this weekend. I thought it was a little John. Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2Like that kid. I am slightly burned out on it. We've come for a few years and we got beat up last year, you know, as a volunteer. Well, so here's the thing I competed below, not below expectation, but below potential.
Speaker 4We'll go with that you were injured, I'll make an excuse for you.
Speaker 2You legitimately were injured, because I usually have plenty of excuses. Yes, you do. It's hard to come for three Like if these guys weren't competing with me, probably Because oh, we'd be gone today. I've seen it. You know what I mean. I've seen enough. I mean I'm sure we miss things and I might actually get the app and look to see if there's something I really want to see that I missed. But you could do it in a day, you absolutely could do it in a day A. Friday thing would be a great.
Speaker 5Friday or Sunday. You could do it in a day, from where we live.
Speaker 2It's not horrendous travel.
Speaker 3Yeah, you could come down and stay one night. You could drive down here first thing in the morning, spend all day Friday, crash in a hotel and then drive home the next day.
Speaker 5Well, two years ago when we came down to watch it, tracy and I came down to watch these guys the first time. They did the arm lifting here and that's what we did. We came down Saturday, came in late, spent the night, got off Sunday, went to the show and then drove home Yep.
Speaker 2I think for me I've said it a few times in a bunch of podcasts and to go full circle on this, it's about the tribe again, because the people I mean we came in, we weighed in.
Speaker 2Thursday evening and we got to go out with the Dingys and the Sefels to dinner and talk with them, talk with Will. You know Dom came down with us the first time this year. It's seeing the people, it's seeing Grace. It's seeing the people, it's seeing Grace, it's seeing Anna and all of them and being able to talk to them, because you know it's different parts of the country. So I think for me that's the biggest part of it. Do I agree with you? Yeah, I can see us doing a. Come down on Thursday, weigh in, do our thing on Friday, because we don't take all day to compete Right, and then leave, you know, wicked late Friday. Or stay even Friday night and then leave Saturday morning Because Saturday is, if you're a people spectator, that's a great day, but if you want to get around and do stuff Not the day to do it- you are out of luck.
Speaker 3So, mr John, yes sir, what do you think Of? He said he's kind of burnt out. Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you know, the other thing is that it's dumb. This is dumb. This is a dumb thing I'm about to say, but I feel like the festival is moving on past me. I saw, like I talked about not seeing a lot of celebrities, I did see a lot of people. I think that were celebrities, that people were that you're not aware of, that I'm not aware of, yeah, bodybuilding women and MMA dudes and that whole young LA I don't know who TikToker people's.
Speaker 5Shibuzy. I saw that. One thing I did see it was a lot of wannabe influencers people's Shibuzi. I did see it was a lot of wannabe influencers with their phones walking around talking trying to not kill themselves walking around.
Speaker 3Shizzy, I don't know, did you?
Speaker 5look up Shizzy. No, I did not.
Speaker 2In one of the booths, because, I don't know if you noticed, in the Young LA area, each there were like six different little stages where you could meet somebody, and they had huge LED signs behind them. So, john, I guess the real question I have for you, then, is and I don't disagree with you. This is getting to the point where, because of social media and whatnot how did that make me sound?
Speaker 4The sort of people.
Speaker 2we don't recognize them as much, Yep. So does that mean that you know? You said you know, maybe it's moving past me Is this are we at the point where you know maybe it's the one and done, or are we just going?
Speaker 4to sort of sit on the couch and eat.
Speaker 2Cheetos, nope, I mean.
Speaker 1I will compete.
Speaker 2I will compete. This is a great competition. It is a good. I mean it's low level. I will compete. This is a great competition. It is a good. I mean it's, you know, one of the two highest level competitions that we can get our stupid butts into. I don't know. We got into one last year that I don't know how the heck we pulled that off. What was that? The show?
Speaker 5Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the show was pretty great. Yeah, how did you guys get that?
Speaker 1call.
Speaker 4Because we're great.
Speaker 1Shut up. I have a podcast.
Speaker 2I am probably the largest Masters in Finland.
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Speaker 2Are we done? I'm still Scott. I'm still John. Who are those guys?
Speaker 5I'm Mark, like I was at the beginning. I'm still Scott.
Speaker 3I'm still John. Who are those guys? I'm Mark. Like I wasn't again, I'm still Dom.
Speaker 2And you're still short. I am what the beard? Ciao, people, bye.
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