The Masters Athlete Survival Guide
We explore thriving as an athlete after 40. Each episode, we’ll dive into tips, hacks, and inspiring stories from seasoned athletes and our personal experience. Whether you’re a weekend warrior or a competitive pro, this podcast is your playbook for staying fit, strong, and motivated
The Masters Athlete Survival Guide
A Day at the Arnold: Crowds and Comedic Moments with Dom Caselli and Marc Taylor
BONUS A roundtable discussion (Sorry about the audio quality) Today, we share our adventures and insights from the Arnold Sports Festival, reflecting on how age impacts athletic performance. The festival celebrates diversity in sports and showcases the inspiring narratives of seasoned athletes.
• Exploration of the Arnold Sports Festival atmosphere
• Highlights from impressive athlete performances
• Observations of unique sports events like axe throwing
• Insights into the fitness industry's evolution
• Personal reflections on the impact of community and camaraderie
• Discussion on humorous moments and unexpected encounters
• Importance of adapting to age while staying competitive
• Acknowledgment of nutrition, recovery techniques, and their relevance
• Future plans for continued exploration in fitness and health
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Welcome to the Master's Athlete Survival Guide, where we explore the secrets to thriving in sports after 40. I'm John Catalinas and, along with Scott Feig, we'll dive into training tips, nutrition hacks and inspiring stories from seasoned athletes who defy age limits. Whether you're a weekend warrior or a competitive pro, this podcast is your playbook for staying fit, strong and motivated. Let's get started.
Speaker 2:Hi and it's Echo Week, and I'm still John, I'm still Scott and we are live-ish from. Cincinnati man. I wanted to say Cincinnati again. We're in.
Speaker 3:Cincinnati. We're not in Cincinnati, baby, if you've ever wanted to, oh boy.
Speaker 2:Turkey drop. Well, if you can tell, we are in Columbus for the Arnold.
Speaker 1:Sports Festival with our friends Dominic and Mark.
Speaker 2:Who doesn't like to talk? Hello Hi, you know, audio is not the kids' format. What can we say?
Speaker 4:All right, we're going to start that whole fucking process.
Speaker 2:We are not no. Apparently, someone set the record for the first explicit word in this, so this will be an explicit podcast. Cost me a dollar more.
Speaker 1:Really. They're all explicit. They all cost me a dollar more because of your potty mouth.
Speaker 4:He's going to give you a dollar Because this is an audio format.
Speaker 2:You can't tell that Scott is digging in his wallet to sarcastically throw a dollar at me.
Speaker 3:How many podcasts have you made? He owes you like 20 bucks.
Speaker 5:Oh good point Make it rain, Scott. Make it rain. Oh, I am more comfortable with all this.
Speaker 3:It's getting better by the minute. Oh, all right. Well, scott, he is a doctor, so maybe it's.
Speaker 1:What are you actually a?
Speaker 2:doctor of? I mean we make fun of. You're not a doctor. What are you a doctor of? I have a PhD in educational administration, specifically pissing off moronic imbeciles like Mark.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 4:That took a curve, I didn't know where that was going.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure why he put you on the crosshair.
Speaker 5:I thought that was coming at me. I'm waiting for the explanation on this one. I did.
Speaker 2:Where's he going?
Speaker 3:He's paying you the dollars. He's making it rain.
Speaker 1:In this audio podcast.
Speaker 3:He's doing a visual joke of making rain dollar bills on me. That's the guy with the doctorate. He threw him a wad of ones.
Speaker 2:He threw a wad of ones on me. That's not the first time you've had a wad of ones stuff in your pants.
Speaker 3:But he had another dollar for the explicit yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Good thing it's not a per time thing.
Speaker 3:So here we are at the Arnold.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you Welcome to the podcast so yes to Dom's point. Yes, we're here at the Arnold. John and I have competed here a number of times. Mark, you were here, was it last year?
Speaker 5:Two years ago Two years ago when I blew my knee out Right when you blew your knee out, Dom.
Speaker 3:if I remember correctly, this is your first time competing here and being here, Because normally is it Magnus, Normally both my kids have something going on. Both the kids have something going on.
Speaker 2:It's not Cincinnati. So what Give us your off-the-cuff opinions?
Speaker 3:There is a lot going on there is a lot of different. There is a lot of different.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of stuff that I didn't expect, like there was axe throwing. I had no expectation of there to be axe throwing here.
Speaker 3:And I don't know if it's a competition or just a.
Speaker 4:I think it's a pay-to-play thing.
Speaker 3:I never realized before that there was martial arts and stuff like that involved.
Speaker 5:Where was martial arts Upstairs.
Speaker 2:Dude, I never realized before that there was martial arts and stuff like that involved. Where was martial arts Upstairs, dude? Was it jiu-jitsu or was it something else?
Speaker 5:At least one looked like taekwondo, judo or some jiu-jitsu.
Speaker 4:Did they?
Speaker 5:move to that, or did they? I thought they deleted it.
Speaker 2:Jiu-jitsu for years it was like there were 900 that came in in jiu-jitsu like on late Saturday, early Sunday, and spent the day there.
Speaker 1:But I thought they got rid of it. I thought so too. Same thing with Las Hightland. Well, you know what's weird? They ditched a bunch of sports for more floor space. But these are all upstairs in the meeting room.
Speaker 2:This year they did, but they've always had a lot like that, mark. Okay, I mean you could technically get into the Arnold without a ticket. You need the ticket for like I know this sounds weird ticketed events Like the, you know whatever, or the expo.
Speaker 1:Now the expo is the least expensive ticket but you could just expo only.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's what Tracy did, so you could just expo only. Yeah, oh, that's what Tracy did, so you could just come in and walk around and see the stuff that's in the expo area.
Speaker 2:And you can go to the arm itself. If you were going to one of the small rooms, like with arm lifting, if it was all in A120, you would never have to pay for a ticket.
Speaker 3:You never have to pay in time. Yeah, you could walk in there. Oh, that's true. Yes, oh time. Yeah, you could have watched it. It's true, you could have watched it.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's true.
Speaker 3:Yes, oh, I hadn't thought of that, yeah, you could come in and, like my wife, could have come in and watched me tomorrow and not had to pay it off.
Speaker 1:Oh neat, I hadn't thought of that. Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was a rain gutter. There was a gutter. Like I said, if I was working for the gutter company and they were like hey, we want you to go to the animal, I'd be like no, nobody there, oh my god nobody there.
Speaker 2:You know I came here for the bikini competition and to get my gutters. Yeah, that's odd, and they were those aggressive like at the counter fair people whoop, sir, how are your gutters?
Speaker 3:and the Jehovah's Witnesses were up front too, those aggressive like at-the-counter people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sir, how are you good? And the Jehovah's?
Speaker 3:Witnesses were up front too.
Speaker 2:And they wanted to talk to us about our extended warranty. Yeah, so those were the weird things Did I say that I got another weird guess Foosball tournament upstairs had its own like meeting room.
Speaker 5:Really, I had no clue. I walked upstairs, we walked Tracy, and I walked upstairs.
Speaker 4:We walked. I walked upstairs, tracy and I walked upstairs. We're walking down the aisle and I look over and I'm like what Foosball?
Speaker 3:Turn the handles a little Foosball, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4:I would watch that. The thing is, you can't sound like you can see it.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that it was easier. It's down in here I wonder if they have like cameras.
Speaker 2:Camera overhead. Following the action yeah, competitive room there for a tournament. You entered a competitive foosball tournament.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, they had somebody up front, Is that like? Can I?
Speaker 2:go pro foosball.
Speaker 4:Can I be the David?
Speaker 3:Beckham of foosball Cornhole, yeah, cornhole. You can call it cornball, I call it cornball Shut the frog up.
Speaker 5:Rip it Exactly Nice.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 3:But I. There was so many people there today, it was bad oh yeah, absolutely, it was so hard to move. And in the arena, what's that? The?
Speaker 2:expo, the expo area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everything was a gigantic line to get free stuff Free energy drinks the signs up Wine and beer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the lady.
Speaker 2:I felt like I was at Disney World with my kids.
Speaker 5:I actually picked on one of those poor women. I'm like you don't have the most exciting job. She goes. No, how's the people watching she goes? You can't believe. I can believe.
Speaker 4:So we were here a couple years ago and we were going into Menopause.
Speaker 2:Yes, our buddy, ronnie's girlfriend, bought tickets to the Arnold Strongman Pro Finals for us. So we're walking around and we're standing outside the ballroom where it's going to be, because this is one of those ticketed events. We're standing outside this thing and there's these two 20-somethings that are, you know, they think they're all jacked up and whatnot. The guy goes yeah.
Speaker 2:I've got pretty good big arms here, don't I? And the woman goes. I mean you could tell she was just, she had had enough. She goes. Those may be the smallest arms I've seen all weekend.
Speaker 3:Look at what you're here at yeah right. He actually made that statement.
Speaker 2:Oh, to the woman who was working here To one of the. It's the wrong person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Just like I said, there was that and he was a teenager, but he was in the it wasn't the rogue area but he grabbed the 15-pound dumbbell.
Speaker 4:Oh that guy.
Speaker 3:He was straining to roll the 15s.
Speaker 4:Yes, and trying to get a pump at the Arnold where 90% of the people walking around have 24 inch biceps.
Speaker 3:And that's the women.
Speaker 2:And he was like a skinny kid. Oh, he's a little guy, he was not a big guy at all.
Speaker 5:There were guys like that all over the place.
Speaker 3:There were some monstrous human beings there.
Speaker 4:There was a lot of furniture boys, that one family, a lot of mortgage guys.
Speaker 3:That family we walked by, oh, the dad and the two sons, that were all like six foot nine.
Speaker 1:Yes, Two of their shoulders were above their head.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the guy's shoulders were above my head.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was so weird. It was weird. It was a weird family above Scott's head. Oh yeah, this guy I mean Dom, we're walking along, dom literally stops, turns around and goes his freaking. He goes the entire family. His freaking shoulders are above my head. I look at him and I said, dude, they're above my head, those were some tall guys.
Speaker 3:They were big, ripped, muscular guys.
Speaker 2:They were just huge huge and they were clearly a family, so they are a race of giants.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, and then, there was a lot.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of small, extremely jacked people, and I don't mean like little people. Small, I mean like guys that are five foot tall.
Speaker 4:I think that's the only way, that are just ripped.
Speaker 2:That's the only way, I think, you can be like those pro bodybuilders are not six foot tall because it's hard to throw a lot of muscle.
Speaker 5:A lot of them are tired.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, if you're like 6'3", 6'4" and a pro bodybuilder you'd be 400 pounds.
Speaker 3:Five foot two. Five foot three. That were just. You know, if they're on stage together they would look like massive human beings, but when they're walking through the thing they're just smaller.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen that picture? It came out a couple years ago. It's at the Olympia. Yep, it's at the Olympia and they've got the heavyweight men are out there and they're awarding prizes and whatnot, and the guest giving out the prizes and medals, Brian Shaw.
Speaker 3:Brian Shaw, Now Brian's like what?
Speaker 2:6'7", 6'8", something like that. He was a former college basketball player Huge, he's tall. He, he was a former college basketball player. Huge, tall, he's huge compared to everybody else. He comes walking out. He's shaking their hands. It's the uncle next to the five-year-old nephew picture.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is freaking hilarious. But I would also I wouldn't mind, especially on like the Friday, when it wasn't as busy going around and seeing all of the stuff like foosball, you know and finding out what all is there, to explore it all, to see what I would like you know.
Speaker 2:one of the failings of that is there's not enough of a map Correct.
Speaker 1:Now, I did hear somewhere.
Speaker 2:Honestly, as we were leaving today, someone said oh, did you open the app?
Speaker 5:There is.
Speaker 2:I saw a sign for it on the elevator.
Speaker 3:There might be an app.
Speaker 5:I didn't check it out but I did see the sign for it.
Speaker 3:And the app might have a map or say, probably this hey, I know the thing's going to be in A120, where we were, or whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to mentally do a song with app and map in it, just because the map what, the map the who, the what the map, what the map?
Speaker 1:The who? To what the map, the map.
Speaker 3:Like Dora the Explorer.
Speaker 2:Map. Yeah, there's a place you want to go, I can get you there. I know, on the map, on the map, on the map On the map. Hi, we're a bunch of dads that have kids that watch Dora. Yeah, so Mark watches Dora. The other thing, the other thing they didn't have the medieval guys beating each other with weapons.
Speaker 4:God do you remember, two years ago I was looking for that and the guy lost his thumb.
Speaker 2:Somebody just lost his thumb. He lost his fucking thumb. Oh, I didn't hear about that, guys walking off Guys chopped off? Oh yeah, Because it was full armor.
Speaker 3:Oh, they're beating Blunted weapons. I've watched that on television, yeah, where they beat the piss out of each other and they do.
Speaker 2:They're like wailing and you know, one guy's got like a fighting hammer and one guy's got like a stick and they're just hammering each other.
Speaker 1:I saw a shake of my stick at you.
Speaker 2:What this guy's got? A fighting hammer and you've got a stick.
Speaker 5:John, he's LARPing again. Let it go, oh Thanks.
Speaker 2:Look at him with psychological terms.
Speaker 3:So what did you not see that you wanted? Is he going to start LARPing? I mean?
Speaker 2:there's still tomorrow. Do you mean in terms of like athletic events or in terms of boobies? You said boobies, boobies, boots, boots. Oh, you saw boobies today. I thought you said boobies. I think everybody did.
Speaker 3:I thought he said boobs too. Tracy, did I say boobs? Don't drag her into this.
Speaker 1:She doesn't want to be here, so we can't afford to have five people, both Athletic events and boobs.
Speaker 3:In terms of boots, mark was upset because or who wasn't there? Bells of Steel.
Speaker 2:Well, that was me. Yeah, because we had to replace the 200-pound sandbag at the compound. Bells of Steel is what we had for our 200. So Bells of Steel wasn't there. Why did we have to replace the 200-pound sandbag? It's ripped, it ripped in one of the seams, on one of the compounds From getting you so much. Spud Inc hasn't been there for a number of years and he's got some really neat stuff that we use at the gym.
Speaker 3:I love my bow tie Spud's pretty good.
Speaker 2:Who else wasn't there? Some of the cool t-shirt companies from the past weren't there.
Speaker 3:I was upset because Kind of Fit Kind of Fat wasn't and I wanted to get a shirt. I didn't see them anymore.
Speaker 2:There's. I mean in terms of I might have missed them.
Speaker 3:That's true. I mean, I didn't see what.
Speaker 2:I noticed is that there's a lot of protein type of foodie stuff there. A lot of the booths shrunk. Well, the cost $3,000 for one instruction, yeah, but I know it probably was $3,000 last time too, but maybe they, you know, I guess, if you lose a ton of money, I will also say that the thing that and I won't.
Speaker 3:I won't go into the business aspect of it, but I it's amazing how much stuff they give away for free, like there are some of them they were pouring like the energy drinks into little cups, but a lot of them were just giving away.
Speaker 4:Here's a can. Here's a can. Here's a can.
Speaker 3:Well, the case was. You know the case from I don't know. Whatever it is, it's out in the truck. No, it wasn't Celsius, it's OxyShred or something like that it's giving away a whole case because it expires this month. Right, that's one thing, but they gave away thousands upon thousands of cases.
Speaker 4:I saw cases, but nonetheless all of them Celsius rain.
Speaker 3:That tells you how much money they make on those products to begin with right that they can hand out 100,000 of them in a weekend, and it's still worth the money.
Speaker 2:Rain and pile said they had brought 5,000 cases of rain Right and there's 12 in a case.
Speaker 3:I don't drink at 24. I don't drink any of that stuff so I don't know, but it's amazing. Like the five-hour energy, those five-hour energies are five bucks a bottle or something, aren't they?
Speaker 4:A little, yeah, a little one-shotters, and they were just like here you go, here you go here you go, you know, that tells you the markup of how much the markup is that they can afford to give that much away at this event.
Speaker 2:Or they get hooked on it.
Speaker 3:It might be worth it to them. You know, we gave John one can, and now he's like hey.
Speaker 5:I really like that and that's what he, even though I wouldn't sleep.
Speaker 4:I can't sleep normally until I sit at my desk you should put a desk in the bedroom.
Speaker 5:I thought about that, but they won't let me. They being your wife, no, they being the bosses, your bosses. I said you should put a desk in your bedroom at home oh, you can sleep at your desk.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know, we expose things.
Speaker 5:There are some there are some dispatch centers that have a have a. Murphy bed fold down off the wall so the dispatcher is a 24-hour dispatcher and can sleep until the tone's popped.
Speaker 3:What about you? What did you not see that you want to see? One or the other, a sport or a booth? What?
Speaker 1:did I not see?
Speaker 2:I didn't see as many celebrities floating around, like new or old, like I think I took a picture with TJ Dillashaw Dillashaw, yeah, the last year. It was like oh look, there's Magnus, ruf, magnusson, there's.
Speaker 1:CJ Fletcher. Oh, there's Lee Haney.
Speaker 2:There's Jay Cutler. They were in that. Rodney Coleman was here, he was rolling around, he was there. There, when Ronnie Coleman was here, he was rolling around, he was there. There's always been the. You can go see them. You know, pay money and go see them.
Speaker 3:But they were also just wandering around.
Speaker 2:I still think you might see a lot of them tomorrow, because tomorrow is going to be the day Arnold's going to be there, and you can always tell where Arnold was.
Speaker 3:Oh God, you can't get near it.
Speaker 2:His entourage is even an entourage it looks like a field trip for a whole high school or something. But if you remember, a couple of years ago you and I were standing outside talking to one of our friends at the Highland Games and we're just sitting there chatting, chatting, chatting.
Speaker 4:Oh he's holy shit, Magnus, how you doing.
Speaker 2:He turns around, there's Magnus from Magnuson just walking by. That's what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Or Kieliszkowski.
Speaker 2:McKay is Kieliszkowski, because Kieliszkowski?
Speaker 5:We went to the SBD booth with Big Z and Evan Singleton. Singleton yeah, just a stand in line, walk up. Well, dude.
Speaker 1:So the way their booth was that year. It was almost like a tractor trailer.
Speaker 2:And it had, like this mezzanine level, stairs up the side to like a little. Juliet balcony. And. Ron and I are standing there and I look up and I'm like man, that dude looks a lot like Big Z, and then you realize it is, and then you realize that no one's paying any attention. No line. Really, I don't think they knew he was up there at that point because it was early. Yeah, they figured it out eventually, but we just walked right up.
Speaker 3:That brings up the, and we know how much I pay attention to a lot of this stuff. I'm not as into it as you guys are, but the Young LA section. Massive section DJ up there literally. That's the first time I was there and most of the people there. I have no idea who they were Lean Beef Patty and that's only because I've been following her on Instagram for years.
Speaker 2:I was following her when she only had like a few thousand followers.
Speaker 3:I, I I followed her because she just popped up as the fitness thing. It was one of the ones that I followed because she gave a lot of good tips for flexibility. Yeah, um, and there was a time that I was working towards trying to get more into fat. Nice calisthenics, right. Um instead of having the flexibility of a concrete block that I currently have. You know so that, but that out of all the people in the pictures and the names, up there.
Speaker 4:I have no idea who any of them are.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what young.
Speaker 3:LA is.
Speaker 2:I've never even heard of it, dude. First of all, I've never heard of it before. Saw the giant. I mean that booth was three quarters of one wall.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh yeah, and 20 foot tall. But, I think it was also an event stage in there.
Speaker 2:But here's the other thing there were multiple stages in there. Yes, Did you notice how much young LA clothing there was?
Speaker 3:I was like LA Fitness when we were kids.
Speaker 2:There were just tons of them. Yeah, is there were just tons of them? Yeah, I mean, you're right, I don't know. I think it's just a brand. I think, and I'm assuming, all those people we don't know are youtubers and tiktokers jay cutler was in that area too, well, you know he probably
Speaker 3:owns part of it or something. Oh, you might, yeah, but a lot that might be part of the influencer culture, I guess yeah, which?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 3:we're not there, Slightly removed from it.
Speaker 2:So, but yeah, that was the most shocking. I didn't see as many celebrities, not as many sports this year either, and not as many sports Like on the floor. More sports, right, okay, they basically made more room for booths, and then I don't think they sold as many as they could. Wasn't that pushing all the sports into the rooms, yeah, no those rooms always had sports in them.
Speaker 2:They've always been there since I've been there Granted, it's only four or five years that I've gone but those rooms always had this sort of niche sports. But like they deleted, like Highland happened, where, what was it? What's there now? That was kind of dead space. Oh, the fancy powerlifting area. Yeah, over on the left, over on the left, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Towards the.
Speaker 2:D-Star and it was probably most of that size.
Speaker 1:So, Highland got caught yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, Jiu-Jitsu would come in on Sunday and they would take probably a third of that wall. You know what else they did that whole area. They didn't have American Ninja, of course, yeah.
Speaker 5:Oh, ninja Landmars, they had the thing where you could go in and sign up, but that was an Air Force booth. No, that was an Air Force booth. There was this like three, this huge line.
Speaker 3:There was rope. Climbing back in the young LA section I saw that.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, what I thought it was it was like a almost like a Jacob's Ladder wall. Oh, I saw that. Where it was that rock climbing wall. That's not what I'm talking about. That's what.
Speaker 3:I thought you were talking about. I'm sorry oh you're talking about the rolling rock climbing wall. I did see that that was.
Speaker 2:It was that that to like come this way down the chin-up bar things that we used to, you know the monkey bars, and then go back on the loops and all those other guards. It was a quasi-ninja thing, but John's right, I mean they had full ninja courses.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I used to love watching the Jacks and it was the way they had.
Speaker 2:It was two lanes. So it was ninja warrior race yeah, so that was pretty neat. So it was Ninja Warrior Race, yeah, so that was pretty neat. So yeah, I didn't realize that had gone away. I am glad today is Saturday. It's the second day of a three-day thing. I'm glad we walked around on Friday, because today was not super enjoyable.
Speaker 3:No, it was too many people in there, I'm telling you that the fire marshal code was broke. There was that many people. There's no way that space. And it was especially those center two aisles were just hard to move in.
Speaker 2:The worst place was by the main stage, but that's always like that, but it was bad.
Speaker 5:The Celsius area was ridiculous Because they were just strung all over trying to get away from a free can of Celsius and a free powder stick.
Speaker 3:I will say the food prices weren't as bad as I expected. Like I said, subway a six-inch Subway was $7. That's cheap. And you guys bought wings and I bought a burrito. There's still burrito left in there. I know I couldn't even eat the burrito, but I got. I mean, I got a. There's still burrito left in there. I know I couldn't even eat the burrito. It was so big and it was delicious. It was a steak burrito and it was like 18 bucks.
Speaker 4:Yeah for a festival. Pricing For a festival pricing that wasn't bad. Like I said.
Speaker 3:Subway was, you know, seven and a half bucks for a six-inch sub, and it was you, which isn't to me ridiculous. There isn't a lot of food at that, though? No, but it's a lot easier to be able to grab something there than it is to leave and come back. Did you see that?
Speaker 2:you could get like prep meals, like the little trays.
Speaker 3:Those have been there for a few years too yeah, just different spots.
Speaker 2:It gets moved around a lot.
Speaker 3:Somebody else told me that they said, there was another different culture, cuisine, and I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2:There was a Japanese restaurant.
Speaker 3:There was a Japanese place, but there was a third one and somebody said the food was fantastic and it was cheap, and I cannot remember for the life of me what it was.
Speaker 2:I more, and in this industry and the health industry is getting bigger and bigger. There's a lot more attempts to make the sugary protein stuff again this year. I mean that one booth that looked, you know I said we got to go check it out.
Speaker 4:The fruit butter, whatever it was nut butter stuff there was well, I mean, it looked like an ice cream thing.
Speaker 2:When you walked up there, it did it. Butter stuff there was, well, I mean, it looked like an ice cream thing.
Speaker 3:When you walked up there, it did it looked like a gelato move, but I personally I understand that because, well, you basically eat pretty solid keto right. Well, it's nice when you can get some sort of treat, because you know you cut the sugar out, but you still want a treat once in a while.
Speaker 3:Well, there's a lot of keto stuff that does that now Something like a candy bar, like you guys did the protein things, but to be able to do that. But now they're also pushing a lot of protein into that sweet stuff. They're putting protein in everything. Yeah, they're seriously putting it in. I mean, look at the nut butter thing. It was one gram of sugar and seven grams of protein for two tablespoons, or something like that two grams of sugar, three net carbs, seven grams of protein and two tablespoons and two tablespoons that's a lot of protein for two tablespoons.
Speaker 2:But I mean two tablespoons, three carbs. I mean, if you think about it, okay. So if you're, the ratio is not good. No, but if you're conscientious when you do it, like Dom is saying, it is something where you can get a sweet taste, and there were so many candy varieties across the board.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was. There was 40 varieties. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:But think about it.
Speaker 3:Trust me. I know there was a lot of brands because the woman, the woman and man in front of me tasted every one of them.
Speaker 4:I was like I just want to try one.
Speaker 3:We waited like seven minutes to try one.
Speaker 2:That was the two women that were in front of me.
Speaker 3:She was like can I try this one? Can I try that one? The guy just kept looking at me like sorry dude, I'm just going to let you try everything.
Speaker 2:What would you get To that point?
Speaker 4:we went up and visited a friend of ours who had a booth for Serious Steel. Shout out to Serious Steel. Big shout out to.
Speaker 2:Serious.
Speaker 4:Steel they I said to him.
Speaker 2:I said, all right, let's get some smelling salts, because he owns his own smelling salts and they are, without a doubt the best smelling salts on the market, not a sponsor. Not a sponsor yeah, welcome to death. And I said to Justin I said, hey, you know, all right, you know, let's get a bottle of the root beer and give me a shirt. He says, dude, we're done with the salts, we are through them all. He was absolutely shocked.
Speaker 3:Oh, when you today, Today.
Speaker 5:Today. Yeah, because John bought his yesterday, I got mine yesterday too, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I mean those salts, are phenomenal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I cracked John's bottle and inhaled it. It pretty much ripped the left nostril right off my head. Still throat, oh my.
Speaker 5:God, what would you do if you put your nose right into?
Speaker 3:it. Oh, I would have died.
Speaker 2:John did that. Was it last year that that happened? Yeah, we walk up last year and they normally have them in rank of intensity. They did this year too Well, one was apparently not put back in the right spot. John walks up, grabs it, just cranks it, shoves it right up to his nose because he thought it was one of the weaker ones.
Speaker 3:It was that new eucalyptus one?
Speaker 2:It was last year's new version. I would probably like that. I thought he was going to die. Justin and I are talking.
Speaker 3:He. I thought he was going to die. Justin and I are talking, he looks over and he's just laughing. I would probably like that. I still think you need to push him to make a bourbon one, I think a bourbon is a no-brainer. We can talk to him tomorrow because it'll be less busy tomorrow.
Speaker 5:Not that you'll ever smell the bourbon, because you can't smell anything once you take a hit.
Speaker 2:You can smell the weaker ones better. Yes, you can. A little bit the weaker ones?
Speaker 3:Yes, you can a little bit, as it fades is usually when I get the smell.
Speaker 1:Once you're regaining your vision, once your vision comes back is when I get the smell. You know what else I noticed.
Speaker 2:I don't know, maybe it's just who I noticed, but the demographics seemed younger. It might be just how we were looking this year, but I mean it was catering to a younger crowd.
Speaker 3:Maybe you're just getting older, well, amen.
Speaker 4:Yes, but no, yes but no, but I think that whole you know.
Speaker 2:To your point. Earlier, john, you talked about that young LA area over on the left-hand side. That reminded me of some Los Angeles like fit expo. What do you think the fit expo is like? Do you think it's super like West Coast-y?
Speaker 1:Like a little more bougie, a little more. You know what I mean Could be, I don't know. I don't know. We have to go sometime.
Speaker 2:They have the grip thing. Ode does some. Yeah, Ode does that out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, speak it up.
Speaker 2:Is he around this? I saw him, I looked.
Speaker 1:He's running the Moss.
Speaker 2:Which is like in 121 or something.
Speaker 1:I actually didn't notice where he was. Oh, is he running the Moss? That's one of the things.
Speaker 2:I wanted to try and catch is the Moss. I think he owns the Federation out there the US one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think he owns the federation out there in the States, the US one?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think he does. Yeah, I just want to own a federation. I'm going to start a federation.
Speaker 1:Start it. I'm going to start a federation.
Speaker 2:Masters of Rip. Yeah, we talked about that at one point.
Speaker 4:Can we do it seated?
Speaker 2:Maybe that could be actually challenging. I saw the best, worst thing today. Okay, guy in a t-shirt in a wheelchair His t-shirt says I skipped leg day.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:God, it gets better. And the other guy. And there's another guy. No, I can't. Yes, you can. No, dude, it was, he wore the shirt, you're not the guy in the wheelchair. He says he wore the shirt. Yeah, what did his shirt say?
Speaker 3:no day is like day, no day is like day, no day is like day.
Speaker 2:Jesus and I guess he gotta embrace it. I miss that. I saw some guys in wheelchairs.
Speaker 4:Well, I miss that and some of the okay.
Speaker 3:So and I understand this is people there with and I get it you want to get out, you want to come to an event and you have a very small child.
Speaker 4:With people pushing a stroller with a newborn.
Speaker 3:There was one guy pushing one of those four-kid wagons and the kids were absolutely miserable.
Speaker 2:Well, think about what that means and I get it, I've got kids and about what that thing is. And I get it, I've got kids and I took my kids everywhere.
Speaker 3:I tried not to take my kids to places where my kids were going to make other people miserable.
Speaker 2:But John, what did we see today that we discovered the? Remember it was down at the end of the Fit Club.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah and yeah those people with the wagon did not put their kids in the van, you think Because he was like mad, because people weren't getting out of his way. Yeah, but he had a wagon that was literally like three by seven with these kids and it's like pushing a sheet of plywood through the place, yeah.
Speaker 2:The best thing is when you're walking along and, like you said, some of those like central corridors that the people really just, you know, disney kailh crammed through there when the uh, the service people would be pushing one of the rolling dumpsters through there and people are giving them a dirty look. So what did I do? I made sure that if they were going in the direction I was going, I got right behind them. It's like driving by in a snowplow.
Speaker 3:Some of the navigation like when I lost you guys, when we were headed out and I got to where my destination, I turned around and I was like where the hell did they go?
Speaker 2:And then I got an all-cap text from John. Where are you? All you have to do is make one quick left when I wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 3:Yeah, You're gone. Scott did that this morning when we got there.
Speaker 2:Well, there were reasons, I know, I just poofed.
Speaker 3:I wanted to go and see some of the other spots, and then we were sitting there and saw your brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And John waved and I flipped him off Nice. Now, what did you not see sport-wise that year?
Speaker 2:We didn't watch a ton of sport, but there wasn't a lot to watch.
Speaker 4:You had to dump off the fighting.
Speaker 2:The jiu-jitsu was fun to watch. It took up a lot of space. They brought in 900 jiu-jitsu dukos, god. I mean they brought in like 900 Jiu-Jitsu Duko, god. I lost the word. Oh, it doesn't matter it doesn't matter. It's the practitioners. I cannot remember the word for it right now. I think we're going to live it up.
Speaker 2:No, let's just say the word Sprinkles. Jiu-jitsu Warriors, jiu-jitsu warriors, jiu-jitsu sprinkles. You guys are Now with extra Jiu-Jitsu sprinkles While serving Jiu-Jitsu sprinkle number 217. No, but there were 900 of them. I mean 900 Jiu-Jitsu artists would come in and they just so they had a huge area of mats set up Like 7 am. They did the Strongest Firemen.
Speaker 1:Like not the finals, but the prelims were on the floor so you could watch those guys do that. The finals were on the stage.
Speaker 2:The island was a thing and that ninja thing. So I mean the only sport. So pro strongman's behind a paywall. Right, you had to get another ticket and go there.
Speaker 1:It was female America's strongest firefighter on the main stage, arm lifting on that other stage.
Speaker 2:They had the pro amp down at the one side. Pro amp strongman.
Speaker 1:You know, I saw him set up for powerlifting and I never saw anybody actually powerlift.
Speaker 2:A lot of it you had to watch on the Jumbo TVs up top.
Speaker 5:We watched it on the TV. I was going to say I can see this the form weightlifting.
Speaker 2:people are in the hallway. Yep.
Speaker 4:But they had a nice warm up, but they had a nice warm-up, and they were super popular.
Speaker 2:Those oddly lifters had been in the hallway for a number of years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2:But I mean there were a lot of people that was part of the congestion in the main hall was people watching Olympic lifting.
Speaker 5:We stopped by. I watched the warm-up room. That was more interesting watching how they propped up.
Speaker 1:It's funny.
Speaker 2:I didn't know if he was serious or not. He looks over and he goes oh, that's like 110 kg, that's a pretty decent deadlift. The guy cleans and jerks no, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't a guy, it was a woman. Oh, was it? Oh, yeah, she did right from the ground.
Speaker 4:She just yoinked it over her head and John's like yeah, it's even more impressive, more impressive because you got it over and over.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, Listen to me. I love female Olympic lifting because they lift the bar just as much as they need to and then zip their body up.
Speaker 3:Oh, gotcha and then stay in spot. How did that just happen?
Speaker 5:They make their technique into an art form.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't have to do that. What?
Speaker 2:That's what, tony yells about all the time. Pull yourself under the table If your technique is spot on. When you're a smaller lifter, the weight that you can move is astronomical.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah because theoretically you're doing it.
Speaker 3:You throw it, you get it to hover, then you get under it and you leg press it.
Speaker 2:Using the force.
Speaker 4:You watch them, you'll actually see their arms pull as they drop.
Speaker 5:They're pulling themselves under more than pulling their arms up?
Speaker 2:Probably true. You know, in this world, I think I've never met four people who are least likely to ever lift a cliff.
Speaker 3:I actually wanted Natalie to teach me, yeah, and she sent me a video of I know Because of the cross-cut me and she sent me a video of she sent me a video.
Speaker 3:She said you start with a piece of PVC pipe and train yourself to do it and I tried. I didn't say I succeeded. I said I tried nice because there was a stint there where I was like I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, but it's too much jumping around and my ankles are already too wrecked for it.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking one of these is going to put me down and I'm going to end up with a 45 kilogram weight on my head or a PCPVC pipe across the eyes.
Speaker 2:When I was 40, I went to a gym to try to learn. Like CrossFit Buffalo, you walked in one way the other way was Olympic lifting, and this coach, steve Titus, a friend of mine, knew he just I'm like I want to learn Olympic lifting. He's like, okay, do this. This, this, this the first thing he did. He goes okay, go down on that rack down there and just let's work on mobility a little. And he was trying to be so polite, but you know my rack position is Right.
Speaker 3:Oh, but that's funny. Yeah, that's the thing I can't, I can't. There's no way I'm racking that to my chest. I don't think I've ever had a rack position it's like I told you.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so your arm's supposed to be backwards, supposed to be up on your deltoids? Yeah, no, it's just, we're too old.
Speaker 3:It's sitting on my chest, yeah, I was going to say at one time I actually, when I did enough front squats I could put the weight on my chest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever I do front squats all the time, I still can't do that. Yeah, I just do the cross.
Speaker 3:I don't have the flexibility. Did you ever? Yeah, I used to be able to do it, but then I picked a heavier path and that all went away and my flexibility went in the pot.
Speaker 2:That was back when I started. You mean a heavier sport path or a heavy body path Both actually.
Speaker 4:That was when I was doing martial arts.
Speaker 3:That was back when I was doing martial arts and transitioning into weight training. So I was very flexible. I had a hard time with the word transitioning and letting it go Just for that.
Speaker 5:That's why he's giggling.
Speaker 3:Is that why he's giggling? He's over here kicking me laughing.
Speaker 2:That's why he's giggling Great.
Speaker 4:Because I went from.
Speaker 5:You know we're nothing but a bunch of 50-plus-year-old school children. Speak for yourself, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Is there a 60-year-old division in arm lifting?
Speaker 1:Did I ever get an answer? Technically, yes, you could be in a class of all my years. You get to compete with him. That's what I'm waiting for.
Speaker 3:Your competitions at the compound will be junk.
Speaker 2:No, you get to compete with Ode. I guess I'm not going to break any of his records. Huh, no, how about that?
Speaker 1:Did.
Speaker 2:Ode lift today for arm lifting no.
Speaker 1:Did Ode lift today for Ironman?
Speaker 3:No, I don't think he does it much anymore. Well, we were at the Olympia.
Speaker 1:Where were we? Did he?
Speaker 4:He did no he lifted I thought he did, yeah, he lifted.
Speaker 2:I remember watching.
Speaker 4:At the.
Speaker 2:Olympia. I think he did the Open. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:You're right, yeah he did I mean he did lift at the Open. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I never, got to watch them.
Speaker 5:I don't know Between being in the room a good chunk of the day yesterday and then probably all day tomorrow.
Speaker 4:I don't care to watch anymore arm lifting today you don't have to stick around and watch me lift.
Speaker 3:Sure, I do, I mean, I appreciate it, you do. You guys don't even have to watch me lift. Just don't leave Columbus without me. Just don't forget that I rode here at the backseat of the truck. Can we leave Cincinnati though? Yeah, you can leave Cincinnati as long as you go to Columbus hey. Scott.
Speaker 2:As long as you go to Columbus, did we forget? Something I don't know Wait wait, I don't know, but Tom's blowing my phone up.
Speaker 3:Bench in the back of the truck. The bench is there. Yeah, that's the thing we are going to have to do tomorrow morning is creatively pack the truck. So, that when we get there to park we can get that bench in the back.
Speaker 2:All we do is the stuff that you know would have been above seat level. We put down to where your feet were sitting or up in the front seat and just put the bench across the back seat. Scott bought a bench at Rogue.
Speaker 3:It's ugly green.
Speaker 5:Sorry, I forgot we were podcasting I traveled down a different road.
Speaker 2:We've been doing that the whole trip. I'm like the narrator We've been buying benches the whole trip.
Speaker 5:No, we've been traveling down different roads. Oh my God, I don't know, if Jim had that?
Speaker 2:kind of disposable income. I guess Nice, it would be nice, it would be nice.
Speaker 1:What do they do?
Speaker 2:with all that stuff they just set up. You mean in terms of the equipment, yeah, rogue does, they'll use their. Rogue has a big setup. Yeah, but no, what he's talking about is like all the plates that are being used, all the competition stuff. The different federations own the equipment that they use at these competitions, oh oh. And then, like places like Ricardo with Ironlifting, he's using Rogue plates. Yeah, and you'll see what happens, because when we stopped at Rogue coming in, they've always got that sort of garage sale going on, but the garage sale is usually some random shit and a bunch of plates, but it's never a bench, it's never a Smith machine.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? No, you're right, but no, you're right, but I'm sure they sell that stuff too.
Speaker 1:When I went to.
Speaker 2:Nationals last year, everything was for sale, Like all the racks. Everything was for sale.
Speaker 3:For instance, if anybody that works at Rogue is listening to this, what is with the massive gym set up at Rogue Like they actually run classes there? They do, they do. It's an active gym.
Speaker 5:I don't believe you. I believe it's an active gym. I I don't believe that. I don't believe you. I believe it's an active gym.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's an active gym, they have banks of lockers in there.
Speaker 4:That's what I mean.
Speaker 5:They clean out every week. Sign yeah, they have comms there.
Speaker 3:Oh, they have comms there. Okay, I figured they just like film their commercials there or something. Yeah, I don't know, it's a weird space.
Speaker 1:It's a huge space. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:So, Mark, I love it. You know what my favorite part of podcasting with Scott is when he whispers in the background.
Speaker 5:He thinks it's not going to be picked up.
Speaker 3:No, it's slightly picked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, it's slightly picked up and everybody stops to listen to him. Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:Mark, what was your impression of today, today or whatever? So, mark, what was your?
Speaker 2:impression of today, today or whatever, just that 100 billion people was ridiculous.
Speaker 5:You couldn't like. Everybody said you couldn't move and people were slamming into you, not even Karen who's Karen?
Speaker 2:exactly your girlfriend. But wait, wait a minute. I don't quite think there was 100 billion. That might be a slight exaggeration. Not't quite think there was a hundred billion. That might be a slight exaggeration, not by a lot.
Speaker 4:I am a doctor, I can't count.
Speaker 2:He is a doctor of education too. Didn't he say count, though he's not a doctor of mathematics, oh no See.
Speaker 3:No, he's like the count from Sesame Street. I've always been about that, johnny Sandman. Ha ha, ha oh my God.
Speaker 5:But no, the amount of stuff there is great If you know you want something or need something. I'd be like we went looking for Cerberus when we first got here yesterday because I needed a new grip shirt, stuff like that. I mean it's great because it's there, but there were stuff in it.
Speaker 4:Like I love.
Speaker 5:Silverbacks, fitness, their shirts and stuff. They aren't there. I wish they were, it'd be great, but this is what it is, but you know, there's always something new.
Speaker 2:There is Every year. We found something to sort of add to it, Like when we did the podcast on protein bars. Some of the protein bars we tried were. Quest, yep. We went over and tried their milkshakes, which were really good, oh, really good, really good.
Speaker 3:Very high in protein. Yes, weirdly high in protein.
Speaker 2:Yes, those. What was the name of those bars? Oh, those butters. It was the Quest. It was a specific brand.
Speaker 5:I can't remember Questero bars.
Speaker 2:Well, no, they the Quest. It was a specific brand. I can't remember the Quest Jero bars. Well, no, they're, it's a version, but we're talking about doing another protein bar. I think we have to they keep coming out. Yeah, there's so many of them, but these were delicious.
Speaker 2:I mean these pushed way the heck past some of the ones that we had before, like the peanut butter, like taste. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what. Somebody's figured it out and it started with those damn key lime Bear Bells. Ones Protein bars are about as far away from the pure protein disgusting.
Speaker 5:Oh, the chalky bar, chalky bar, chalky bar Square.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when we were kids, oh yeah, so Did we have protein bars when we were kids?
Speaker 5:I so did. We have protein bars when we were kids.
Speaker 2:I don't think we did. I ate them on a sandwich.
Speaker 3:That's what I was going to say I think yes, sir, I think a sandwich. I downloaded the Arnold app real quick just to see what is it. There's a map, there's a schedule there's a literally you can buy tickets, a list of sponsors live streaming. That sounds like idiots you know, I mean it's literally, you can search through the exhibitor list. I mean you can plan your trip to see what you want to do. So for future reference, we really could have laid out exactly what we wanted to do and how we were going to get there All right.
Speaker 2:So when I edit this podcast, I can make the decision on whether I want to take out the. You know what they should have. They should have a map.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the very first thing. You can't, you've got to leave that the very first thing. Expo map Is it show booths or is it?
Speaker 2:I mean does it get that specific? Yeah, oh God. Well, that would have helped Dom. And it tells you yeah, it's this way.
Speaker 3:It's this way. Dude's going the wrong way.
Speaker 2:No, I'm telling you, it's this way, it's this way, literally it tells you what.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, what's the word I'm looking for? I?
Speaker 2:don't know Sprinkles. What corporation is where? Yeah, you know here.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, beefcakes and cracked spice and airway. Hey, that's what I was looking for airway, shout out to airway. I bought a two-pack of their mouth guards today. Did you put?
Speaker 1:it in your mouth yet? No, I have not. That's what she said.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, and the leaf guard people that shows where they are, the leaf guard, that's again one of the weirdest things.
Speaker 2:Where is one of the six different booths for beauticians? There were a lot of young ladies taking advantage of those beauticians, though.
Speaker 5:There was All those damn curling irons. It was hotter than hell. Walking past that Temperature went up. Seriously, I don't disagree.
Speaker 2:Scott's looking at me like I'm insane.
Speaker 1:You are insane.
Speaker 4:You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:Hi baby.
Speaker 4:Why did you just say that's dumb?
Speaker 3:Well, it's kind of cute, oh nice, and there's also a show schedule. You know, cheerleading and dance, GTMA I don't know what that is Gymnastics, martial arts this is all tomorrow. Weightlifting.
Speaker 5:What is GTMA? You don't know, I don't know. It's a lot of martial arts groups that were upstairs.
Speaker 2:Grand Theft, michigan.
Speaker 4:Global Traditional Martial Arts and you can click on the thing, alright, so here's arm lifting okay from 9am to 10am interestingly enough, that's wrong.
Speaker 3:Oh wait, oh, I'm sorry, this is arm wrestling.
Speaker 5:Hold on my bad, there's arm wrestling. Yes, I heard there was, but I never saw where it was. There is arm wrestling.
Speaker 3:Arm wrestling is from 9 to 10 am. Whereabouts Can we?
Speaker 4:enter. That I don't know.
Speaker 3:Sunday, it's the finals and the super matches from 9 am to 6 pm. The arm lifting is here and that's from 10 to 4, it says Wow has women's and men's division in all standard weight classes and it lists the events rope, double overhand deadlift, three-inch sax and bar and the rope, grandfather clock, you're kidding.
Speaker 2:So it has an insane amount of detail about everything. Yep, we were like, hey, you know what would be a great idea? Yes, no one ever thought of this Grappling what is grappling Wrestling.
Speaker 3:Is it wrestling Like grappling?
Speaker 1:No, then why would they call?
Speaker 3:it wrestling. It's got to be different Grappling industries. Follow around Robin. You can look it up in the app. It's got everything. It's hysterical.
Speaker 1:It probably always is and there's
Speaker 2:different power lifting.
Speaker 3:There's USA power lifting and XPC power lifting. It's got it all Really.
Speaker 5:Yeah, xpc was on the end from where we were.
Speaker 1:Their warm-up really was oh yeah, you can find tests through here.
Speaker 3:It's funny. You can activate your own badge through here.
Speaker 2:I mean it's. I see there's a badge for life. You don't need your stinking badges.
Speaker 3:Yep, you can reserve an autograph or photo If you want to reserve time to meet one of the famous people you were talking about or meet me.
Speaker 1:John Catalinas is in room 120 from 10 to 4. World's smallest caters. I will sign one object only per person. Try to keep the brand you know secure. I'm not looking at Scott right now because I'm sure he's doing something dumb, not? At all. You know what's disappointing.
Speaker 4:What makes you think that I wasn't going to?
Speaker 2:bring it up, but we are like 45 minutes into this thing.
Speaker 5:Are we really? Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Someone hasn't worked in their joke of the day, yet Our. Shakur.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes me sad Our Shakur that we haven't looked at yet. Are you Shakur?
Speaker 2:So Scott decided that the funniest thing in the world was somehow to very, very bluntly and roughly work in Tupac or Shakur into random conversations. Well, he missed earlier that Don told you that he bought the mouth guard. It was a Tupac.
Speaker 1:Ah see, there you go. That's Scott, there you go. You didn't stick that in your mouth yet.
Speaker 2:No, that's what she said there's Scott. Same joke you already did.
Speaker 3:I know he did. Would you like me to do that while we're on the podcast? I can get it.
Speaker 2:I actually have it deeply interested in that, don't you have the? Formals Probably to make them better, but I'm sure roughly it fits you, just shove it in.
Speaker 5:This is going to go alright.
Speaker 4:I did buy one to try because I use the New Age now. Right, I'm going to have to toss that airway.
Speaker 5:What did?
Speaker 2:that guy tell you at New Age. So I might tell him, because now with the new tooth in the New Age one, you've got to go somewhere with that.
Speaker 3:now, with the new tooth in thing, you're going to have to tell people you have a tooth or something because that's just some.
Speaker 4:His tooth is why I use a mouth guard.
Speaker 2:I have an extra tooth added to my mouth that helps me chew.
Speaker 3:Do you remember the woman at the airway? When he was looking at me? She said do you bite down hard? And he was like not really. And I said you broke a tooth.
Speaker 1:You broke a tooth.
Speaker 3:What a beer lifting and she just looked at him and he was like all right so maybe I do which one's that? The orange case, one I don't know yet, oh they come in the same pouch, sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're held together Because I like the form factor. This is the heavier one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the heavier one Dom is putting it in his mouth.
Speaker 2:He's wiggling his jaw, he's picking corn out of his teeth. I think so.
Speaker 5:I didn't eat corn this week, but he thinks.
Speaker 2:He's got a quizzed. Look on his face.
Speaker 5:Well it's not for him.
Speaker 2:It's going to feel weird, yeah, but I mean, like the reason I went to the New Age booth when I got the new tooth and I remelted it and refitted it. It makes me gag every now and then, like it hits something back there that I never had that problem before. It's just bulking up sometimes, yeah, so I wondered if these would be better.
Speaker 5:I bought one to compare and see where I want it. Yeah, new Age makes a thinner one too, do they not? Yeah, they do. Like we have the 60S. They've got three versions? Yeah, they have four versions.
Speaker 2:One the fourth one, I think is like a mouth guard Anti-score, like a kid's sport. No, like it's a mouth, it's a front tooth guard. That's when you're going to need to be formed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's no airways, the one where there's stuff on both sides of your teeth, right like there's a little thing that grabs the outside of your teeth.
Speaker 3:It's yes, yeah, oh, he swallowed it. No, it does not make me gag.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay Do you put it on the bottom or the top.
Speaker 1:That's what she said. Bottom yeah, bottom Okay. I don't think you can go on top. I guess you could, I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, because she was saying that you can put it on the bottom because it forces the tongue.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's right, it forces the tongue out of the way Keeps you from being a dumbass and playing with your tongue.
Speaker 1:So preliminarily Dominic you think it's going?
Speaker 2:to do what you want it to do. I just I wish there was a way you could.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's disgusting but I wish there was a way you could try it Right, absolutely Stick it in your mouth. Yeah, I don't care for this fit.
Speaker 4:Right, take it back out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it says right on the package, the red one, which is the lighter duty one. I guess you could say he said duty Is the relaxed fit.
Speaker 2:And the orange one is the bell-bottom fit, the snug fit.
Speaker 3:I thought we were going jeans. So the one the PX1, is designed with a wide bite channel and delivers a comfortable, relaxed fit, and the PX2 is designed with a narrow bite channel and delivers a more snug, more secure fit.
Speaker 5:One of them should have a thicker bite plate too, airway not as responsive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that one's definitely going to have to be formed, because it won't even fit on my teeth. Oh. Is it the same design just thicker.
Speaker 5:Yeah, does it have that little? When I talked to the yesterday, I talked to the woman she showed me the difference there's. They've got one that's more strength training, power lifting type stuff that has a thicker plate you can see, very easily see the difference.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this one's much better. That's definitely going to have to be heated to be formed because that's not even fitting on my teeth like that. Okay, this one can pop right in.
Speaker 2:That's cool. I'm curious Are you going to try it tomorrow when you compete? Yeah, I will.
Speaker 3:Oh, you should form it, then I, yeah, I will. Oh, you should form it, then I'm going to. Yeah, and she said you don't have to throw it in boiling water so you can do it in the microwave. Yeah, she said, just put some wet paper towels in the yeah, wrapping it in a paper towel.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's funny because I just reformed the New Age one. Their forming instructions are super specific.
Speaker 2:Bring water up to a boil, put it in hot water for 40 seconds then, put it in cold water for I don't forget, or no.
Speaker 2:You let it out for eight seconds, then you form it, then you do the anthrax and then you put it in cold water for I forget, but like the 40 seconds, not 41 seconds, we probably turn it into goo if it's this. When I was a kid, you know you'd form them for sports. Oh my God, there were no directions whatsoever. You had a piece of plastic that looked like you know the channel and it says just boil it and you know whatever. And you put this thing it's like molten plastic on your teeth and yeah, in the package.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's more stuff, but wait, there's more.
Speaker 3:No, it's literally just two. You get two mouth guards, two cases. Each case has a carabiner on it, Doing this for the podcast, since it's not visual. So each the color-coded. The cases are color-coded. That's literally the only difference is the color?
Speaker 3:One's orange and black and one's red and black. Are the mouth cards orange and red? One mouth card is kind of semi-clear and red and the other one is semi-clear and orange. Both cases have a carabiner on them and there is a card inside with the QR code that says scan to view your fitting and usage instructions. Oh and there's two different QR codes, one PX1 and one PX2. So they have different directions. Nice Well, that makes sense.
Speaker 5:Did you buy any? I bought the one with the heavier bike plate. Do you buy anything else besides this From the airway? No, oh, I went to Serious Steel got some smelly salts and the rolling stick the original stick, I got the short one some smelly salts and the roller stick for the massage and operation.
Speaker 2:The original stick I got. The short one Is that the original stick? I?
Speaker 5:thought they called it the little or something like that.
Speaker 2:I've got a longer one at home, but it doesn't fit my gym bag. Justin's company for that is called the original stick. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3:Also of note. I'm sorry to interrupt. They gave me a veterans discount also. Did they make you prove it? I showed her my ID. I was actually wearing this anyway.
Speaker 2:A shirt, yeah.
Speaker 3:I was wearing my CBMA stuff, my combat vet stuff, but she said, oh, we do have a veteran's discount, so that lowered the price. More Nice, which I truly appreciate.
Speaker 2:What else do you have, Marcus?
Speaker 5:Oh, what else was there? Oh, the Grade 8.
Speaker 4:Oh, you bought that. You bought the Grade 8?
Speaker 5:Oh, I love that I have to listen to you guys talk and try Yours, I think, was the one day at your place. I actually liked it a lot. It's one of those things.
Speaker 1:You can take it to work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, on the bean here, you can take it to work, and just Is that what the noise makes.
Speaker 5:Yours doesn't make that noise, mine did last night, when I played with it.
Speaker 2:That pregnant pause was brought to you by our 17-year-old brains.
Speaker 5:Your shirt.
Speaker 2:You got a server's shirt.
Speaker 5:I got a server's shirt, because I'll need that in June. It's required. What are you doing in June?
Speaker 4:We've been through this.
Speaker 5:Nationals for US Strongman.
Speaker 2:Did we talk about that one? What federation is that? Uss?
Speaker 4:US Strongman yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, is there another?
Speaker 2:federation Strongman Corp. Strongman Corp is the one that works it up. Can I start my own?
Speaker 5:federation.
Speaker 2:Didn't we just start that? I'm trying to bring it back.
Speaker 4:Okay, yes, you can what do you want to do?
Speaker 1:I don't know what do you want to federate?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'll tell you what. Whatever I federate is going to have an app and the app's going to have a map.
Speaker 5:Why would amp To show all over the country where the Federation is represented.
Speaker 2:Because it ain't crap. Okay, stop, john, you're done. That was horrible.
Speaker 5:Hey John.
Speaker 2:I know, shut your mouth. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 3:Oh, and I also got my reusable heating pads. Oh, those things, those chemical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are great, they get hot. Yes, they get very warm, they get really hot. Alright, John, you've been asking a lot of questions what did you?
Speaker 1:buy, I bought that thing, that squeezy you're pumping your hand through.
Speaker 3:I bought that thing. Oh yeah, what was it called? I have no idea.
Speaker 4:Oh, you've got to go back and get your hand massaged by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can do that tomorrow.
Speaker 5:I feel bad for the woman the one that sold you that thing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it kind of reminds me of almost an acupressure. It is an acupressure, yeah, it's an acupressure, I know. Basically, it's a clamp that goes over the meat of your hand between your thumb and forefinger. I saw it, did you like it? I love it. It releases something. You carry a lot of immobility there. You see, I didn't feel it when I tested it. Yeah, I didn't either.
Speaker 3:I really didn't I did. All I got was I tightened it down until it hurt, but you know, not like all those other modalities.
Speaker 2:If you don't have the problem, you don't need the thing. I did see the Hidal people again. The wireless oh with the TENS thing. Oh, I saw them today. We bought those a couple years ago and we got a hell of a discount on those. Yes, did we buy that on Sunday? Was it one of those deals like we should sell some of these?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I just remember we got like no, we bought it on Friday, we bought it first day.
Speaker 5:Oh okay, there'll be a few booths that will drop their prices tomorrow just because they want to get rid of stuff and they don't want to haul it back.
Speaker 3:I just wonder you think they're going to run out of rain and Celsius Oxygen shredder. Oxygen shredder.
Speaker 5:Giving cases away. There was still a ton of them today when I walked past. Oh, I got more energy drink booths this year.
Speaker 2:That's true, there's a lot of. You know why Jocko had one. Oh, I like Jocko Go, by the way, I didn't see that, but I saw a booth. Did you guys see the booth where you can meet with them and make your own supplements Like?
Speaker 1:if I wanted to launch a supplement lineate, those people were there.
Speaker 2:I want to make a liquid protein lemon bomb thing they were there when you say they?
Speaker 3:who exactly are they? The chemical company? The raw chemical company?
Speaker 2:I know what you can federate a grind federation. You have gotta be careful that doesn't end up to sound like the Canadian ballet. If you don't know what that is, I'm not telling you. No, yeah, the grind federation. That sounds like something about.
Speaker 5:It's like oops, I downloaded the wrong movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah but I mean, look at the. There was a clothing distributor there called Pumpdog.
Speaker 1:Which I never heard, but I was thinking I just thought it was.
Speaker 5:You know, it's a funny name for anything, Much less the clothing company I had one pet peeve for this weekend, it was the amount of crowds there, and these idiots are throwing t-shirts into the crowds and watching people almost brawl.
Speaker 3:I did not see that. I didn't see a t-shirt. Where was that coming from? It was, I think, celsius was doing, not Celsius.
Speaker 5:Who was? I think Celsius was doing it, not Celsius. Who was it? Probably Red Bull. No, it wasn't Red Bull.
Speaker 2:Red Bull was the one that had the giant trucker and stuff like in the middle of the DJ.
Speaker 4:DJ in the truck, remember, because he was like he said something and he looked at me and was like that's a fantastic beard and then went back to. Dj.
Speaker 5:I forgot that.
Speaker 4:That was the one kid.
Speaker 5:There are so many energy drinks. Well, if you think about it.
Speaker 3:Think about how many you drink, how many you drink, how many you drink. And you guys are not their target right. Their target is these 20-somethings that are living on these things that are drinking five or six or seven of them a day at three and a half bucks a crack.
Speaker 1:Which, apparently, is probably a product that costs them like a nickel to do.
Speaker 3:Right, oh sure, you know that's a huge the fitness industry as a whole. But the energy drink supplement, you know all of it. That's huge as a whole, but the energy drink supplement, you know all of it, that's that's huge.
Speaker 2:That's more money than plates and weights. And yeah, cause I guess the other thing is that how many?
Speaker 3:energy drinks versus how many 40, 45,. How many 45 pub plates do you need and how often are you going to buy them Right? I mean Scott's still got ones that are 40 years old, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, or older. I mean it's not like they go bad.
Speaker 3:Right, right, yeah, or older, I mean it's not like they go bad. They don't go bad I remember that was at work the one time they said we're buying a new dumbbell rack because the guy that sells the stuff said, well, yours are old and they're chipped. I was like the 45-pounder still weighs 45 pounds, who cares?
Speaker 4:Exactly I mean you're right, you sell a weight at a buck and a half a pound.
Speaker 2:You're never going to replace it, unless something happens. All right, so we've been going for just over an hour now. We've talked a lot about what we saw, what we sort of looked for. Didn't see what our thoughts were. Two questions, to sort of go around the world Given what you saw, would you come back and what was your overall opinion?
Speaker 5:Mark.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 5:I saw how he pointed For those listening at home.
Speaker 2:he said Mark, and pointed at Dom, and we all had to take a minute to see if we were having a stroke.
Speaker 5:I mean second time here, first time as a competitor yeah, I'd come back.
Speaker 2:He just did the thing like first time, first time in a long time.
Speaker 4:How do you even realize? That's what?
Speaker 1:I would say I would come back An overall impression. Yeah, I mean Saturday, not a fan, just because of the amount of people.
Speaker 5:but Friday wasn't that bad, it was enjoyable.
Speaker 2:The thing is, though, we do the Friday-Sunday and Saturday just you know that's sort of the price you pay.
Speaker 5:I think yeah, and we were there two, three hours before we said enough. So now that we left because we really didn't have any shopping to do. That's the same.
Speaker 2:So tomorrow, tomorrow, we'll probably watch the arm lifting, or I will we need to do a little wandering we've got two friends that are competing, you know, and a lot of the pros that you know. You and I don't see pros for years or, you know, throughout the year. Right, that's when we get the chance to talk to them.
Speaker 5:The crowd and I had a blast with talking to them, yeah, and while we were competing then I ran into a guy in the kilt Will, will, will Ran into him today at the actual and him and I stood talking for a few. Yeah, I like him. He was pointing me to places to go. Do you use this here, head over there?
Speaker 3:Or do you like this Go over?
Speaker 2:there, yeah, yeah, yeah, he wasn't a wizard, he just had the app.
Speaker 5:He had the map.
Speaker 4:You're kidding, he was holding up.
Speaker 2:Dom. What do you think?
Speaker 3:First time here, first time competing here.
Speaker 2:First time competing.
Speaker 3:I will very probably come back if I can. If I'm available to yeah, all right. Overall opinion. Overall opinion I'm available to yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, overall opinion.
Speaker 3:Overall opinion. I have to ask a question how much was Tracy's visitor pass $100?
Speaker 2:million.
Speaker 5:Gary, what did you pay for the three guys I was?
Speaker 4:always the $9.12 guy, considering how much it costs to compete.
Speaker 3:I would just do that, especially since you can walk around the line to get in, that's the thing, I would even just pay it, and then, even if I wasn't, competing Right.
Speaker 2:Because it's like a speed pass Right. As a competitor, you can get in even earlier than the early admits.
Speaker 3:And I'm not condoning buying a participant and signing up for an event and then skipping it, but I don't understand why it costs so much just to get in the door. I guess maybe because they can charge that. How many days are you going to be there? Three days, that was a three-day pass.
Speaker 2:The one that was like, yeah, we're going to report it.
Speaker 5:Well, because theoretically you're watching America's Strongest Firefighter, right, you're watching a lot You're seeing a lot If you get to see it, you can see a lot Right I?
Speaker 2:wonder some people must sit and camp at the main stage and just let things happen.
Speaker 5:Watch a goal.
Speaker 1:Well they have.
Speaker 2:VIPs, you can buy a gold pass. It's like $500. Does someone?
Speaker 5:carry you around.
Speaker 2:Well, you get VIP tickets to the bodybuilding finals, to the strongman finals, to the so basically you get all the spectator expo pass hype to the max. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, mr John.
Speaker 5:What.
Speaker 4:Big bad.
Speaker 2:John.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, that's a thing this weekend. I thought it was a little John. Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2:Like that kid. I am slightly burned out on it. We've come for a few years and we got beat up last year, you know, as a volunteer. Well, so here's the thing I competed below, not below expectation, but below potential.
Speaker 4:We'll go with that you were injured, I'll make an excuse for you.
Speaker 2:You legitimately were injured, because I usually have plenty of excuses. Yes, you do. It's hard to come for three Like if these guys weren't competing with me, probably Because oh, we'd be gone today. I've seen it. You know what I mean. I've seen enough. I mean I'm sure we miss things and I might actually get the app and look to see if there's something I really want to see that I missed. But you could do it in a day, you absolutely could do it in a day A. Friday thing would be a great.
Speaker 5:Friday or Sunday. You could do it in a day, from where we live.
Speaker 2:It's not horrendous travel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you could come down and stay one night. You could drive down here first thing in the morning, spend all day Friday, crash in a hotel and then drive home the next day.
Speaker 5:Well, two years ago when we came down to watch it, tracy and I came down to watch these guys the first time. They did the arm lifting here and that's what we did. We came down Saturday, came in late, spent the night, got off Sunday, went to the show and then drove home Yep.
Speaker 2:I think for me I've said it a few times in a bunch of podcasts and to go full circle on this, it's about the tribe again, because the people I mean we came in, we weighed in.
Speaker 2:Thursday evening and we got to go out with the Dingys and the Sefels to dinner and talk with them, talk with Will. You know Dom came down with us the first time this year. It's seeing the people, it's seeing Grace. It's seeing the people, it's seeing Grace, it's seeing Anna and all of them and being able to talk to them, because you know it's different parts of the country. So I think for me that's the biggest part of it. Do I agree with you? Yeah, I can see us doing a. Come down on Thursday, weigh in, do our thing on Friday, because we don't take all day to compete Right, and then leave, you know, wicked late Friday. Or stay even Friday night and then leave Saturday morning Because Saturday is, if you're a people spectator, that's a great day, but if you want to get around and do stuff Not the day to do it- you are out of luck.
Speaker 3:So, mr John, yes sir, what do you think Of? He said he's kind of burnt out. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know, the other thing is that it's dumb. This is dumb. This is a dumb thing I'm about to say, but I feel like the festival is moving on past me. I saw, like I talked about not seeing a lot of celebrities, I did see a lot of people. I think that were celebrities, that people were that you're not aware of, that I'm not aware of, yeah, bodybuilding women and MMA dudes and that whole young LA I don't know who TikToker people's.
Speaker 5:Shibuzy. I saw that. One thing I did see it was a lot of wannabe influencers people's Shibuzi. I did see it was a lot of wannabe influencers with their phones walking around talking trying to not kill themselves walking around.
Speaker 3:Shizzy, I don't know, did you?
Speaker 5:look up Shizzy. No, I did not.
Speaker 2:In one of the booths, because, I don't know if you noticed, in the Young LA area, each there were like six different little stages where you could meet somebody, and they had huge LED signs behind them. So, john, I guess the real question I have for you, then, is and I don't disagree with you. This is getting to the point where, because of social media and whatnot how did that make me sound?
Speaker 4:The sort of people.
Speaker 2:we don't recognize them as much, Yep. So does that mean that you know? You said you know, maybe it's moving past me Is this are we at the point where you know maybe it's the one and done, or are we just going?
Speaker 4:to sort of sit on the couch and eat.
Speaker 2:Cheetos, nope, I mean.
Speaker 1:I will compete.
Speaker 2:I will compete. This is a great competition. It is a good. I mean it's low level. I will compete. This is a great competition. It is a good. I mean it's, you know, one of the two highest level competitions that we can get our stupid butts into. I don't know. We got into one last year that I don't know how the heck we pulled that off. What was that? The show?
Speaker 5:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the show was pretty great. Yeah, how did you guys get that?
Speaker 1:call.
Speaker 4:Because we're great.
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Speaker 2:Are we done? I'm still Scott. I'm still John. Who are those guys?
Speaker 5:I'm Mark, like I was at the beginning. I'm still Scott.
Speaker 3:I'm still John. Who are those guys? I'm Mark. Like I wasn't again, I'm still Dom.
Speaker 2:And you're still short. I am what the beard? Ciao, people, bye.
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