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Ep. 28 Festies Recap: Outside Lands 2025

Sunny Balopole, Vanessa Gutierrez, Clark Lawson Episode 28

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We start this week’s episode catching up with Vanessa about her trip to Eminence before Sunny and Clark share all the stories from Outside Lands 2025. From the sets that had the crowd going wild to the funny little moments that made the weekend unforgettable, it’s a laid-back recap of San Francisco’s biggest music festival!

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Introduction

Vanessa

Hey Sunny.

Sunny

Yeah, vanessa.

Vanessa

What do you call two best friends that love music festivals?

Sunny

Hmm, I guess you'd call them

Vanessa

Festies!

Clark

music festivals, friendship festies

Clark

and rolling

Vanessa

rolling on the river. Oh, speaking of river.

Clark

Lining it up like that.

Vanessa

I didn't mean to, but it worked out great,

Sunny

do we also need to reintroduce Clark?

Sunny

He hasn't been here in a while.

Vanessa

Yeah, who are you?

Vanessa

What are you doing here? What are you doing in my house?

Clark

I'm back on the mic. I'm not downstairs. I think I was playing Zelda last time y'all were recording.

Vanessa

Also, it's not my house, Sorry,

Sunny

welcome back.

Vanessa

Who is Clark? For those that don't know,

Clark

I'm the engineer.

Vanessa

And more importantly,

Clark

Sunny's love of her life,

Sunny

sonny's lover,

Vanessa

Hello lover.

Vanessa

watched that SNL skit again with Will Ferrell

Clark

oh

Vanessa

in the hot tub.

Clark

Yeah, oh my gosh.

Clark

That's a wild one yes. I'm back.

Vanessa

It's been a while.

Clark

Yes

Vanessa

it's been a while and it's

Clark

oh my gosh

Vanessa

I saw a shirt on some dad on tiktok. That said, I speak fluent

Vanessa

Movie quotes I was like I have to get that for ed but

Vanessa

There should also be one that says I speak fluent lyrics, or something like that

Clark

yeah yeah

Adventures with the Ambulance

Vanessa

so I was on vacation for like a week on the river in missouri and I got a really nice tan. But let's start from the beginning. We drove our ambulance, which is semi-finished it was finished enough for us to take it to missouri and use it on this trip and we drove it all the way from California to eminence, missouri, non-stop.

Sunny

You did it,

Vanessa

yeah,

Sunny

good job

Vanessa

we did it,

Clark

it survived

Vanessa

it survived, it did great, and then we lived in that thing for a week and then we drove it to Iowa and we left it there.

Sunny

Oh

Vanessa

so sad,

Clark

painful.

Sunny

Was it hard to leave it?

Vanessa

I didn't think it was gonna be hard to leave it, but I was like sad. I was like what are we gonna do now? This thing took up like the last year of our lives yeah mostly ed's life, because he did 85 percent of it.

Vanessa

And so I'm like what are you gonna do now? But, yeah, it was only a bummer because, like now that it's kind of usable. It would be nice to have brought it back and, like be able to explore california in it but there'll be time to do that later on

Sunny

yeah,

Vanessa

so it's okay, we had a great week on the river, literally every day.

Vanessa

Okay, I'm going to do the Lady Gaga Ready, wake up, breakfast, river Dinner, sleep, do it all over again.

Clark

Nice,

Vanessa

that was literally our day.

Clark

The simple life

Vanessa

For five to six days.

Clark

That sounds very satisfying.

Vanessa

It was way too much drinking and I don't want to see alcohol again for like three to six months. So yeah, and then when we went to iowa, we hit up the iowa state fair.

Clark

Oh yeah, yeah, you were saying that

Vanessa

and ed was like I have to go.

Vanessa

He's like I missed it last year. So we went the day we were flying back home for like a couple hours, just to say we went and eat some food and

Sunny

Nice, how was the food?

Vanessa

so good. Thankfully we could not find the deep fried butter which I know Ed wanted to try, I don't know if they have it anymore. Oh, they have really good concerts every night Like really big people. You know, that day it was supposed to be Megan Maroney and we had to leave at like 2.

Sunny

Can't do it all

Vanessa

His parents, I think saw Hank Williams Jr on Saturday.

Clark

That's pretty nuts

Vanessa

We've seen Brooks and Dunn there.

Sunny

Well, I'm happy for you guys that you got a vacation, because you deserve it. You've been working so hard,

Vanessa

thank you.

Clark

So many times we've been like, oh yeah, we're going to record an episode that day, right, and Vanessa's like I had to do some flooring on the ambulance, All right, okay.

Vanessa

I had to put some insulation.

Clark

Yeah, yeah,

Vanessa

yeah. No, ed did all the electrical and I'm just like, I'm just like.

Vanessa

So, in awe of him,

Clark

that electrical.

Clark

That's crazy to see that

Sunny

it looked like spaghetti

Clark

yeah, terrifying high voltage spaghetti

Vanessa

yeah, oh, we did see some music too.

Vanessa

Every tuesday that week they have a concert, which normally it's like a C-list country artist kind of Maybe B-list. I don't know, so this year it was Casey Donahue, if anybody knows who that is.

Clark

That name sounds really familiar.

Vanessa

It was really fun

Clark

Dope

Sunny

Wait, so this is like an actual event. I thought it was just Ed's family who, like, decides

Vanessa

no it's like it's called cross-country trail ride.

Vanessa

This was the 70th year anniversary. A lot of people will bring their horses. Everyone's camping in horse trailers. Wait, is one of you allergic to horses? Oh, so you're not gonna go

Clark

the most allergic you can possibly be right?

Vanessa

oh no,

Clark

aren't you super

Clark

allergic to them. I thought that was like.

Sunny

Well, when I rode them.

Vanessa

Oh, so you don't need to touch them?

Vanessa

You don't need to just be around them.

Sunny

Yeah, being around them is fine.

Vanessa

Oh, okay,

Sunny

not that.

Sunny

I've been around one for an extended amount of time.

Vanessa

Well, ed's stepdad's allergic to horses too, and he's fine

Sunny

Okay.

Sunny

Just take my meds.

Vanessa

Yeah, so people just ride around the campgrounds with their horses, or you'll see a bunch of groups leaving in the morning to go on trail rides. I did a four-hour trail ride last year. Yeah, so it's like a campground. So there's like hookups and electricity and water. And then there's a dance every night with the band that plays like the same set of songs in the same order every night and

Vanessa

It's a lot of fun

Clark

that's 70 years.

Clark

That's so cool.

Vanessa

Ed's been going since he was 8

Clark

WOW

Vanessa

and they give you buckles for every 5 year increment. So I get my 5 year buckle next year. I'm so excited. He's supposed to be getting his 20 year or something, but

Clark

Is it like a cool

Vanessa

I think it's like a huge fucking buckle.

Clark

That's sick,

Vanessa

yeah, so I'm excited

Clark

yeah, you gotta have that steez going on, dude

Vanessa

never thought I'd make it this far

Clark

some bootcut jeans wear a big old buckle

Vanessa

I remember the first year I went he would make jokes to like friends of his that he knew that were like meeting me there. He's like, yeah, we'll see if she makes it to her five-year

Clark

he was planting the seeds, like.

Clark

He's like what are you gonna do

Clark

marry me?

Vanessa

for that buckle,

Clark

did it all for the buckle.

Vanessa

Even though I had a lot of fun there, I was still very sad that I couldn't be at outside lands with the gang

Clark

yeah

Vanessa

technically we got home saturday night of outside lands, but

Clark

that would have been crazy,

Vanessa

just like last year I could have done it, I know I know, but I'm so tired.

Sunny

Yeah,

Clark

people can go back and listen to that episode and hear you say the same thing

Sunny

I'm so tired from sitting on the river.

Sunny

I'm just kidding.

Vanessa

Listen six days of hard drinking really takes a toll on your body and mental health. I was not. We did not get out of bed on Sunday

Clark

yeah

Clark

I can imagine Well, yeah, well, we definitely did miss you at this year's.

Clark

Outside Lands.

Vanessa

Oh, you don't gotta lie to KK Clark.

Clark

I mean.

Clark

I'm not lying.

Clark

They can't see my face.

Clark

I think we especially feel it now because one of our former guests from the podcast, Cameron, is one of our Outside Lands crew.

Vanessa

Yeah, and you guys met him through me.

Clark

Yeah, exactly the connection to you. You know we feel it more and our good friend Conner, and you were saying that it'd been so long since you've been to one

Vanessa

I know I can't remember the last time I was at outside with Conner

Clark

because he was part of the og big crew that we had

Sunny

if you listen to the last episode that we put out, Conner was the one who went with me to the Lady Gaga dance party.

Vanessa

Oh yeah,

Clark

oh yes, yes.

Sunny

Just to make that little connection, just in case we have listeners that do not know what Outside Lands is. Outside Lands is a music festival in Golden Gate Park, which is in San Francisco. It's my favorite festival. It's always the first weekend of August and this year the headliners were Doja Cat, Tyler the Creator and Hozier, and then other acts were Glass Animals, Doechii, FINNEAS, Marina, Royal Otis, John Summit, Mayer Hawthorne, and Amelia Moore.

Vanessa

Are those all the people you saw?

Sunny

among others. Nope,

Vanessa

oh, does it ever fall on your birthday?

Sunny

Uh, no, it's usually the weekend after

Vanessa

Darn.

Sunny

This year we stayed in San Mateo, at my mom's apartment, shout out Thank you so much for letting us stay there.

Vanessa

Yay, karen,

Sunny

yay,

Clark

definitely

Outside Lands Festival Overview

Sunny

This year Outside Lands introduced a new shuttle.

Clark

Yes

Sunny

So they have a park and ride now that leaves from the Cow Palace, which is in Daly City. That's a little south of San Francisco, and then we live farther south than that. So we were just able to drive to the Cow Palace Park, hop on that shuttle and then get to Golden Gate Park.

Vanessa

Nice, how much was that pass

Sunny

90

Vanessa

Well, that's not too bad

Sunny

We were trying to figure out if it's worth it doing that versus Ubers and stuff, and I think it would probably be the same.

Clark

Yeah, it was extremely smooth on timing. Maybe the most we had to wait when we were getting on a shuttle to get to Outside Lands was like 10, 15 minutes.

Clark

Yeah, maybe

Vanessa

that's good, what about leaving?

Clark

I think the longest we waited was like maybe 20.

Vanessa

Okay, that's not bad.

Sunny

It was very dependable.

Clark

Yeah, Not bad at all To get rid of the stress of an Uber. altogether The five of us probably getting there because we get there so early wouldn't have been bad, but coming back would be really expensive and just stressful trying to figure it out.

Vanessa

Yeah.

Clark

So it was perfect.

Sunny

Team shuttle all the way yeah.

Vanessa

Definitely recommend that next year?

Sunny

yes.

Clark

Yeah, Outside Lands. If you're listening to this, keep it around next year

Sunny

Yeah, keep that shuttle.

Vanessa

Then one of you has to stay sober.

Clark

I almost always do,

Vanessa

daddy clark,

Clark

I'm pretty reliable on that scent.

Clark

Sorry the one, literally the one downside of the shuttle was that the one coming home the first night right

Sunny

stinky

Clark

they're charter buses, so there's a toilet on the bus and it smelled like that was backed up or something which was pretty gross. Definitely stopped all conversations on the bus.

Clark

It was very quiet.

Vanessa

It smelled like that when you got on or halfway through or something.

Clark

No. The whole time.

Sunny

The second you walked on there, it hit you in the face.

Clark

But other than that

Vanessa

Yep All right, moving on

Clark

no problem,

Sunny

Yep

Vanessa

Alright moving on

Clark

A plus.

Clark

A minus For that.

Vanessa

P-U. B-U.

Sunny

What are we thinking? Do we want to go day by day?

Clark

Yeah, I think so. And we're just trying not to get too Bogged down. Don't get too crazy

Sunny

With details.

Sunny

You know us, we like to get there early, so we caught the first shuttle on Friday at 11. We got there.

Vanessa

Oh my gosh

Sunny

I know, I know

Vanessa

11.

Sunny

, I know, I know. So we got there. It was foggy, but not freezing, tolerable, But right away I noticed there were a lot more people in there.

Vanessa

Really?

Sunny

yeah

Vanessa

my co worker that went and took my tickets she said her friend and her son got there at like noon and she got there at two.

Vanessa

I was like good job yeah,

Sunny

hell yeah, speaking of your friend and their son.

Sunny

We also noticed a lot of families there

Vanessa

oh nice

Sunny

a lot more kids

Clark

yeah, I was telling sunny, for like the whole weekend this year felt the most similar of the makeup of the crowd as to the first years that I, that we went.

Vanessa

It was more family friendly back then?

Day One: Friday's Musical Journey

Clark

well not friendly at least, but just you know that it was cool parents and their kids.

Clark

You know, at least for me, I always thought that was such a cool part of outside lands

Vanessa

the kids?

Clark

like families that whoa, whoa, I just love kids

Vanessa

I brought extra candy in my backpack

Clark

I always bring snacks. Okay, um, and I I swear. We saw a lot of over 50s couples around and I was like that's cool too.

Vanessa

That's awesome Music bringing everyone together.

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

I love to see it.

Clark

I think Cameron and I saw a couple of those older peeps around. Sometimes we're like they got the dates wrong. They were here for the Grateful Dead thing and then they're outside lands.

Clark

Joking about it.

Vanessa

Kings of Leon is next weekend. Are they old?

Clark

Not that old.

Sunny

Not that old,

Vanessa

never mind,

Clark

they're only a little bit older than us.

Clark

I think,

Vanessa

oh, really.

Vanessa

Never mind, take it back

Sunny

Just to explain that a little bit. This year at Golden Gate Park they decided to use the infrastructure that Outside Lands usually uses for three separate events. So the first event was the Grateful Dead or, I'm sorry, Dead and Company, which was a huge event, and then Outside Lands, and then after that it was Kings of Leon. And

Vanessa

you can do it,

Sunny

nope,

Vanessa

zach Bryan,

Sunny

damn it.

Clark

That's so good.

Sunny

Nope,

Vanessa

which I did not go to. I was so sad.

Sunny

Oh sorry, so yeah, that's what they were referring to, I didn't mean to completely interrupt you though

Clark

no, no, you're good.

Clark

So for friday, little roundup of who The Two Llips, Los Menorés, Inji, almost monday, Fuji Kaze, Thundercat, Marina Fcukers, Doechii and Beck with Symphony we didn't skimp on any artists all of them

Sunny

that's a lot.

Sunny

I opened the day with going to the Duboce Triangle stage

Vanessa

is that how you say it?

Clark

debose debosey is the other one I heard

Sunny

we got debosey, we got debose, we got

Vanessa

debochey

Sunny

we got debochey

Clark

debochay

Vanessa

is that debochey.

Vanessa

I like that better debochay,

Clark

that's kind of fun to say

Sunny

Yeah, it was like a little hidden pocket in the middle of the festival in McLaren Pass, so all the trees are around it Super shaded cozy.

Sunny

It had really comfortable seating, like couches, like actual couches to sit in.

Clark

It had these cool like holographic iridescent bubbles, like these big spheres that were hanging.

Clark

And then there was like mushroom sculptures and stuff too.

Clark

It was a cool little like trippy pocket.

Sunny

I just have to give you props because before we got into this recording session I said that Clark, you have to describe the stage, because I'm just going to say it was balls hanging from the air. What did you say?

Vanessa

Iridescent holographic

Clark

yeah you're welcome

Vanessa

spherical

Sunny

yeah, balloons hanging from the air, that's what I would have said.

Clark

these big

Vanessa

balloon things,

Clark

balls

Sunny

yeah it was a lot of dj sets. It was really intimate. Uh, every morning started with a open mic.

Vanessa

That's where the open mic was.

Sunny

Yeah, so there were local artists performing there. It was hosted by Rainbow Girls. They do an open mic in San Francisco. I think they're gonna have it again. It was really successful.

Vanessa

That's really cool that they do an open mic for artists and then they could say I played in an outside lands.

Sunny

Yeah, exactly.

Clark

Speaking of someone talked to Sunny.

Sunny

Yeah. So while we were sitting there, Zara Irshad came up to us from the San Francisco Chronicle and asked if she could interview us, and that weekend she was covering the new stage. So she basically just asked why we are at Outside Lands, what we think about the new stage, how we feel about local musicians getting to perform at Outside Lands, and so, yeah, I just told her that I thought that that was an amazing idea, because outside lands they're giving people the opportunity to perform at, you know, a major music festival. So while I was thinking about that today, I was like, oh, shoot the article. So I looked it up and

Vanessa

she quoted you?

Sunny

she quoted me.

Vanessa

What did she say?

Sunny

What I said

Clark

Festies be, published.

Sunny

She said uh let's see.

Vanessa

Does it say Sunny Balopole from Festies Podcast?

Vanessa

shut the fuck up

Sunny

Sunny Balopole, a host of the Festies Podcast, which delves into the details and unique experiences that music festivals offer

Vanessa

you weren't gonna tell me this?!

Sunny

I'm telling you now

Clark

she's keeping it for the genuine reaction.

Vanessa

Oh my god

Sunny

Said she came up from San Mateo on a mission To check out Outside Lands newest attractions For it's 17th edition On Friday afternoon. Quote people come to festivals and I think they dream About being able to perform at one, said the 32 year old.

Sunny

This opportunity.

Vanessa

Why'd she do you like that?

Sunny

This opportunity Is a way to get a taste of that.

Vanessa

Oh my God, that's so cool.

Sunny

I found that out a couple hours ago, so I had to keep that from you for a whole three hours

Vanessa

oh good job and you did. I'm proud of you,

Clark

isn't

Clark

that dope though

Vanessa

that is so sick, right, we're in the paper. Wait, what is this San Francisco Chronicle?

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

sick.

Sunny

After she was finished talking to me, I was like wait, can you take our business card and sticker,

Clark

Nice

Sunny

So yeah, Thank you so much for coming up and asking us for an interview. That was very exciting.

Vanessa

That's so cool.

Clark

The rest of the day was just like moving so fast that when Sunny told me that I think we were figuring out where we're going to meet up after the first couple artists, and she called me and I was like oh yeah, like how was the You know the new stage and then we talked for a second. And she's like, oh yeah, the SF Chronicle interviewed me. I'm like what, that's dope, that's so awesome. I was like why, like what why Wasn't that the first thing you said on the phone right it's like that's awesome,

Vanessa

No, that's so awesome.

Clark

Yeah, super exciting.

Sunny

So fun way to start the weekend.

Sunny

I guess our highlight for the day was Doechii

Clark

yeah, for sure

Vanessa

oh my gosh.

Vanessa

Okay, no, tell me about Doechii. I want to hear all about Doechii.

Clark

The level of her artistry and detail for the choreography and the aesthetic. It was this whole classroom vibe.

Clark

They had desks that are chair desks and all the choreo was all around

Vanessa

ryoura back on.

Clark

Yeah, straight up.

Clark

And used the whole stage. She had a big, giant boom box that her DJ was inside of this boom box and stuff. And then she had a spiral slide on the side of it.

Clark

Sorry, it was dope.

Sunny

I feel like I don't want to tell you all this because we're going to see her at Austin City Limits.

Vanessa

Oh, you think it'll be the same?

Clark

I won't go any too far.

Clark

I mean.

Clark

I'm assuming it'll probably be similar.

Vanessa

I don't give a fuck,

Clark

but she was incredible.

Clark

What I really loved was the visuals that they did when they have the lyrics going on the screens. They were using the live feed of her packed crowd and her lyrics going on top of that and I was like that's like a flex, that's a sick flex.

Vanessa

I love that, so that everyone can rap along.

Sunny

Yeah, it was so baller.

Vanessa

I can't wait to see her.

Sunny

Because we knew we were going to see her at Austin City Limits, we used the opportunity to go to the bathroom and eat. Guess where we went to do that.

Vanessa

You ran errands?

Sunny

Yeah, we ran errands.

Clark

Yes, as they say,

Sunny

we did our side quests.

Vanessa

As we say.

Sunny

We went into Grass Lands Woo, which you don't get to name my firstborn,

Vanessa

damn it.

Day Two: Double Vampire Weekend

Sunny

So as we left Doechii, we were walking and I was like wait, is there a bathroom in Grass Lands? So we went to go check no line, and there's also food stands no lines.

Vanessa

There was bathrooms?

Clark

Yeah,

Vanessa

oh sick

Clark

and there were a couple couple food vendors inside of Grasslands too, so it was like the most mellow it could be right then,

Vanessa

was it cannabis food?

Clark

No,

Sunny

I got a weed tomato soup.

Clark

Literally a grilled cheese and mac and cheese place and they have tomato soup that you could get with your grilled cheese and stuff. I'm like that's some pretty good munchy food to have you know, just like warm you up comfort kind of stuff you know,

Sunny

the tomato soup revived me.

Clark

Yeah, it was

Sunny

so good

Clark

it was just campbell's with like black pepper whatever it doesn't matter,

Clark

it was still good, it was delicious,

Sunny

yeah I could have been cup of soup and I would have been just as happy

Vanessa

I have heartburn just thinking about that

Clark

so we still saw probably three quarters of Doechii's performance

Vanessa

did she bring out anybody?

Clark

I don't believe, so no,

Vanessa

okay who'd you guys close the night out with on friday?

Sunny

Beck

Clark

Back with symphony, he was playing some of his tracks from his grammy award winning album

Sunny

and movies

Clark

and yeah, and movie scores that he's done. And then at the end he still had the symphony. So he did two turntables and a microphone but with the symphony behind it, like giving this like huge gravitas to the performance. And then he like kind of kicks the symphony off stage and him and the drummer and guitar player and piano player that he still has stay on and he does loser and that just like

Sunny

I'm a loser baby

Clark

yeah, goes so hard

Sunny

which was in my head the whole weekend

Clark

yeah, straight up

Sunny

at the beginning I was like all the rest of our group would see this as boring because it was really slow.

Vanessa

Yeah,

Sunny

but,

Clark

much more mellow

Vanessa

you liked it better the first time you saw him there?

Sunny

I don't want to say better, but like it was more fun.

Vanessa

Yeah,

Sunny

but this is the first time I've ever seen an orchestra at Outside Lands.

Clark

Yeah, yeah, so yeah. That was pretty incredible,

Sunny

oh, but low for the day there was so much sound bleed from Doja Cat. It was gnarly.

Vanessa

Oh cause it was at Sutro? Why did I think Twin Peaks?

Clark

In our minds it was just the perfect kind of encapsulation of why we like outside lands so much, because within this one day, in between Sunny and I, we saw a Venezuelan boy band, a dreamy pop duo, a Turkish dance music singer-songwriter, a Japanese piano player vocalist, an R&B jazz bass virtuoso, an East Coast dance music new artist, a British pop vocal queen, a next-gen rap game-changer, Doechii, and an indie pop master. So all within the same day, we saw all of those things.

Vanessa

Oh my gosh. Yeah, that sounds like a whole weekend in itself.

Clark

And that's it One day of a festival.

Vanessa

Now you see how we fit so much in our one day at.

Vanessa

Bonnaroo.

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

without knowing it was going to be our one day.

Clark

Straight up, straight up.

Vanessa

Okay, so Saturday.

Clark

Sorry, I had to read that verbatim. I'm like I wrote all the things.

Vanessa

I was having a stroke when you were reading all those.

Sunny

It was a lot.

Sunny

I don't know if you remember, Vanessa, but when we read the lineup we noticed that Vampire Weekend was on there twice.

Vanessa

Oh yeah, what did that mean?

Sunny

So, Vampire Weekend They opened up the Twin Peaks stage, they were the first band to play, and then they were also the last band to play, and it was two completely different sets.

Vanessa

Really

Sunny

yeah.

Vanessa

Why, how?

Sunny

I don't know how or why, but it was really

Clark

Awesome

Vanessa

Like different sets how they just had no song played.

Vanessa

Ok

Clark

when they started playing.

Clark

They're like no repeats. We're going to play a set right now. We're going to play a set at the end of the day. No repeats.

Vanessa

Wait that same day?

Clark

Yeah.

Vanessa

So I was, so we were right in the morning and the evening.

Sunny

Yeah, yeah.

Clark

True, true.

Sunny

I think It's pretty genius because it got a lot of people in there early. Twin Peaks was full. It looked like it was six o'clock.

Vanessa

What time did they play their first set?

Sunny

Twelve,

Vanessa

oh my gosh

Sunny

Yeah.

Vanessa

Kevin this was not the best year for you to miss outside lands.

Clark

is he all about Vampire Weekend?

Vanessa

our friend.

Vanessa

Kevin, who's been to outside lands with us so that's his favorite band.

Clark

Oh yeah, he interacted with the story when we were posting it, for sure, yeah,

Sunny

oh, that's right.

Sunny

Vampire Weekend played Outside Lands a few years ago and their genre of music just isn't up my alley usually. But this time I was really excited because they played more like they were jammy. They were funky, they were like totally different band. I have no idea what they played later.

Sunny

I'm sure they probably played a lot of their hits later in the evening

Vanessa

they were pretty up there for Ed to see at Bonnaroo.

Vanessa

He wanted to see them.

Sunny

They're a big band.

Clark

Their drummer was wearing a shirt. Actually, this shirt is sick. I'm not a big Grateful Dead fan, but it was a sick shirt. It was an Oakland Raiders shirt and the Raider, like the face that's normally there, was Jerry Garcia from Grateful Dead.

Sunny

Yeah, that was pretty cool

Clark

and that was pretty sick. I'm like that's a pretty dope shirt man. But yeah, multiple of the band had Grateful Dead stuff on, which goes right hand in hand with how jammy they were and what happened the previous weekend at the polo field.

Sunny

So because Vampire Weekend drew in a huge crowd early, it felt like Saturday was so busy. It was the busiest I've seen it in a long time. I was dodging people. It felt like a classic Outside Lands.

Vanessa

It was on the schedule?

Sunny

Yeah.

Vanessa

Okay, so you guys went early to see them.

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

okay, cool.

Clark

It seemed like that was a great thing for all the other early acts, because there were just more people already in the festival.

Vanessa

Needing something to do

Clark

Exactly so like you know, maybe you wouldn't have got this huge crowd, but hey, you're playing. Sutro and Vampire Weekend brought all these people in early.

Vanessa

Vampire Weekend is opening for you.

Clark

Yeah, that's awesome. You know that's sick.

Sunny

So let's see. Between the two of us, we Amelia Moore, Vampire W eekend, Paco Versailles, La Russell, Flip Turn, Girl Math, Dombreski, Ludacris, DJ Peewee, Tyler the Creator and Gesaffelstein.

Vanessa

Oh

Sunny

sorry, vanessa,

Vanessa

I was watching, I did,

Vanessa

I was watching that vlog that you made of Outside Lands.

Vanessa

The moment I heard your clip of Gesaffelstein, I felt something in my soul.

Sunny

Yeah, I mean I wanted to go, but I was telling everybody I was like I have to go Because Vanessa is unable to go and Gesaffelstein is her favorite.

Vanessa

Oh, thank you. Yeah, those videos you sent me were sick. Thank you,

Sunny

it was very fun.

Vanessa

It's been a long time since I've seen him, but did he have a huge crowd? Where did he play first of all, sutro? Oh, that's too small.

Sunny

I mean it's too small, it was filled. Yeah, saturday we just had a blast. It was so fun.

Vanessa

I'm getting FOMO.

Sunny

I'm sorry.

Sunny

It sucked.

Sunny

It was boring.

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Vanessa

I really didn't have FOMO while you guys were there, and now I'm getting FOMO.

Sunny

Yeah, it was so fun, and I think what started off being super fun was Ludacris. Yeah, because that's all of our childhood.

Vanessa

Yeah.

Sunny

Early 2000s hip hop.

Clark

Kind of the same energy as when we saw Nelly.

Vanessa

That's what I. I kept comparing those two.

Clark

First of all, I forget that he has all of his really fast rapping stuff, because he also has kind of like silly hooks sometimes that feel a little bit like one fish, two fish you know, like they're, just like they're really but you remember them they're like earworms, but also His first hit, though, is I wanna lick you from your head to your toe when I want to go from the bed down to the foot he like pops off with that you know, it was like whoa.

Vanessa

That would have been so fun it would have been, so I saw him at Two Step Inn which is a country music festival.

Clark

Oh yeah,

Vanessa

but it would have been so dope to see him with all our friends big ass group dancing together.

Clark

It was super fun and his DJ was hilarious.

Sunny

I loved when he had us going if you ain't got no money, take your broke ass home.

Clark

Yeah, definitely a big highlight.

Sunny

Our friend Aaron went for one day

Clark

yeah.

Clark

It was dope because our schedules lined up and actually part of our main group, justin's sister, leslie, was all excited to see this band Flip Turn.

Vanessa

Oh, I would have loved to see that with her.

Clark

Aaron was also like I've listened to flip turn. It's really sick. So him and I went. It was great like really beautiful vocals from the lead singer

Vanessa

okay, so

Clark

kind of reminds me of young the giant almost

Vanessa

the first

Clark

performance incredible.

Vanessa

The first few months that I was listening to flip turn, I thought it was a girl's voice

Clark

yeah, he does. He does have like a pretty high

Vanessa

yeah but then I watched a music video actually recently because they were going to be at Bonnaroo and I was like, oh, that's a guy but yeah, I love them,

Clark

they were awesome

Sunny

I'm sad it

Sunny

It seemed like everybody really loved that set.

Clark

Yeah,

Sunny

but I decided to dedicate Saturday. I kept saying Saturday is my beep boop music day.

Vanessa

Beep boop,

Sunny

yeah, beep boop DJs all the way. It was so fun. I saw Girl Math and then I saw Dombreski, dj Pee Wee and then end of the day with Gesaffelstein.

Vanessa

Did you like Domb reski?

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

I feel like I would really like him.

Sunny

t's like disco edm. So yeah, that was my kind of takeaway from saturday just being happy enjoying the day-long dance party.

Clark

Yeah, it worked out nice for you too, because before Gesaffelstein we all landed together for DJ Peewee.

Sunny

Yes.

Clark

Which is awesome, with, of course, Anderson .Paak, who brought out multiple peeps while he was DJing, brought out Cordae, who he has a song with, and he also brought out Ca7riel y Paco Amoroso during his set and played one of their songs.

Vanessa

Oh, my gosh,

Clark

and they came out in these long blonde wigs

Vanessa

oh, that was them?

Clark

Yeah,

Vanessa

I saw your videos.

Clark

Yeah,

Vanessa

I was like

Clark

that was Ca7riel y Paco Amoroso

Clark

. Yeah,

Vanessa

I didn't realize that was dj peewee.

Clark

They just popped out and we're like yo and they sang their song, you know over the track. Yeah, but that is Saturday.

Sunny

Should we move on to Sunday?

Clark

Go on.

Vanessa

Please.

Sunny

Please.

Clark

I'm burning up.

Vanessa

It is hot in here.

Sunny

Sunday, between the two of us, we saw Big Frieda and the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir, Midnight Generation, Mayer Hawthorne, Levity Ca7riel and Paco Amoroso. Mayer Hawthorne, but a DJ set, Glass Animals, Bleachers, Jorja Smith, Neal Francis and Anderson .Paak and the Free Nationals. You saw Bleachers?

Clark

I saw a chunk of Bleachers because I was getting to a spot for Glass Animals.

Sunny

Oh, I didn't know that

Vanessa

Also. I just want to say

Clark

Not into them.

Clark

Put on an amazing show

Vanessa

Really. I think I saw Bleachers

Clark

Yeah, amazing show.

Vanessa

but I just want to give Sunny props for how she said

Clark

Yeah, she did a good job.

Vanessa

You didn't even stutter

Clark

Nah.

Vanessa

I just said, and too so.

Sunny

Thanks,

Clark

yeah, killed it

Sunny

Another aspect of Sunday is my mom and my Aunt Debbie and my Uncle Andy went

Vanessa

Woohoo

Sunny

yeah, which is really exciting because obviously I've been talking about outside lands for years.

Vanessa

Was this your mom's first one?

Sunny

Yeah,

Vanessa

oh, wow. For some reason I thought she'd gone another year.

Sunny

Nope.

Clark

You're thinking of Bottle Rock?

Vanessa

I know.

Vanessa

I know we went to Bottle Rock,

Clark

just kidding, sorry.

Sunny

Nope, well, my dad went one year.

Vanessa

Oh yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking, yeah.

Sunny

So that was really exciting, just to be able to show them around. It was a little stressful because they were there for one day, but there's only so much you can see in one day.

Vanessa

Yeah,

Clark

true,

Sunny

I think they had a good time.

Clark

Yeah.

Sunny

It was rough getting around and it was cold.

Clark

No

Sunny

they had a lot of uh as we say like suck to embrace,

Clark

yes,

Sunny

but they saw a lot of amazing music that day

Vanessa

so who was your favorite from sunday?

Clark

Besides Mayer Hawthorne

Sunny

I guess Anderson . Paak

Clark

yeah

Sunny

had an incredible

Clark

yeah,

Sunny

but um

Sunny

beside the obvious. I really enjoyed seeing Big Freedia and the SF Gay Men's Choir because they took us to church

Vanessa

Really?

Sunny

Yeah. And Conner, who grew up in choir the look on his face he was just so into it. And same with my mom and Andy and Debbie. They all did choir. And same with my mom and Andy and Debbie. They all did choir, so it was really fun seeing them have such an intense reaction to the music

Vanessa

yeah.

Sunny

I don't know what I was expecting, but it was also a lot of hip hop in there too.

Clark

I was on, like the other side of the festival at Panhandle with Cameron and Martijn seeing Midnight Generation. Yeah, who's this? Mexican funk band

Vanessa

yeah, I think cameron told us about that group when he was here.

Clark

Yes, yes, he did, he did and that was my struggle.

Clark

When sunny and I met back up later, I was like I'm not gonna tell you how much y'all would have enjoyed what I just saw too, you know like yeah, sunny's mom, especially karen, loves. They had a percussionist who that's all he was doing was playing congas and like a go-go with like the two-tone cowbell and shaker and tambourine and he was just cutting a rug like he was killing it all five of these guys had shaved and mustaches and like he's just like close-cut hair and like in their matching jumpsuits doing their funk music.

Clark

It was pretty dope.

Sunny

That's fun.

Clark

But I know how great experience y'all had at Big Freedia too.

Sunny

We'll have another opportunity to see Midnight Generation.

Sunny

Did you have a highlight of the day?

Clark

Um, I mean, it's been a while since I've felt that way about a headlining set like for Anderson Paak and the Free Nationals.

Sunny

How did you feel?

Clark

It was so incredible because that's like the best I've known a headliner in a long time. There was only one song that Anderson played that I didn't know and the level of musicianship it almost reminded me of when we saw D'Angelo. How they honed the set that they played was just next level, and I was surprised at how much Anderson Paak was on the kit. He was on the drum kit like almost half of the set. And that's a lot of playing for like an hour and a half set.

Sunny

Yeah, and so he's singing, dancing, rapping, playing the drums

Clark

His outfit was also dope.

Clark

He had like an Adidas brand plaid jacket, matching skirt with like these sick big boots.

Sunny

I said that and Clark was like no

Clark

Skirt

Sunny

not a kilt, it was not a kilt.

Sunny

I offended him.

Clark

I will die on that hill.

Clark

It was not a kilt.

Clark

Not enough. Pleats in the back Different.

Vanessa

Oh my God

Clark

I say as a Scotsman, but it was sick. He just destroyed that set.

Clark

It was so good,

Sunny

very energetic, and I know I keep saying this word, but we were just having so much fun.

Vanessa

It was like so fun

Sunny

it's so fun, it's like really good. I remember thinking to myself

Vanessa

I wish Vanessa was here.

Sunny

Well that, when he brought out E-40, which was just like mind-blowing Not that we're like huge E-40 fans, but you know, being in the Bay Area, it was like a big deal.

Vanessa

That's our grandpa, that's our dad. Sorry, e-40. I'm so sorry you are not that old. That's our dad.

Clark

I can just picture all of our friend group's faces when he brought E-40 on

Vanessa

yeah

Clark

Everyone's like oh, just losing it.

Clark

What

Vanessa

I would have lost? My fucking shit yeah.

Sunny

I felt like we didn't have the capability to express how hard we wanted to go to the music.

Clark

Yeah, keep an eye out for the vlog, yeah, yeah, to see how hard we were going.

Sunny

I'm sad because it was just such an argument in my brain in the moment between recording it and enjoying it.

Vanessa

Yeah,

Sunny

you know

Clark

yes.

Sunny

And so, of course now I wish I would have recorded it more, because when the video stops I'm just like, oh no, yeah, an amazing way to end the weekend.

Vanessa

That's how you close it out.

Sunny

Yeah, and I was like that was the best way to end the weekend in a while

Vanessa

I probably would have cried

Sunny

and also. Sunday went by so fast.

Vanessa

I feel like it always does.

Vanessa

You don't want it to end,

Sunny

yeah at the end of every day I'm like it went by so fast, but this time Friday didn't feel fast, saturday didn't feel fast, but Sunday just like whizzed by.

Vanessa

Should be four days, just saying.

Vanessa

Just kidding.

Sunny

Add another day.

Clark

Come on, you cowards, make it four days.

Vanessa

Was there any set that you regret missing?

Sunny

Kind of so, Paco Versailles.

Clark

Yeah.

Sunny

He was on our list and we decided to get food before going over there and like missed a chunk of the set.

Clark

Yeah.

Sunny

I really regret that

Clark

yeah,

Vanessa

but you didn't miss him. You still saw,

Sunny

we still saw it yeah.

Clark

They're like a duo, where one of them plays like flamenco guitar and the other one's a singer. And they have like a dance music band backing them and it was really dope

Clark

We got over there and we're like oh, I was just like

Vanessa

is that the same for you?

Clark

either that, or just maybe not a set, but I never made it over to soma

Sunny

oh, really,

Vanessa

oh, I don't think I've ever been over there either

Clark

because the couple times that I was going to meet up with sunny or was trying to go over there to see something, the line was just crazy. And sunny reminded me after was like, even if the line's crazy, there's just as big amount of people leaving

Vanessa

right

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Clark

it's very rare that it's fully just packed and closed up.

Vanessa

yeah,

Clark

so I would say mine's like generally that that I just didn't get over there and it was a slightly different setup than it was last year, so that would be my regret.

Vanessa

Are we done with the music?

Sunny

Yeah, I think so.

Clark

Yeah yeah.

Vanessa

What was your guys' favorite food that you ate?

Sunny

I pulled a Vanessa and didn't eat a lot. I don't know.

Clark

Lamb shawarma quesabirria

Vanessa

Shut the fuck up.

Clark

Yeah, it was so good

Vanessa

I had a quesabirria

Vanessa

I had a Quesabirria at the Mexican restaurant in Eminence too, and it was not bad. I did not have any high hopes for it, but it was pretty good.

Clark

Shout out to Aaron's sister, Megan, because she recommended it, and then, when we were hanging out with Aaron, aaron's like I'm going to go get that today. So we went and got that

Vanessa

that sounds so good.

Sunny

Oh, can I deviate just for a second? You reminded me because of Megan.

Clark

Go on.

Sunny

The way she recommended it to all of us was through our WhatsApp group.

Clark

Oh yeah.

Sunny

Last minute I decided to create a WhatsApp outside lands community and it had different topics when are we at Food and drink intel, things like that. So I was really trying to get it going to have Festies, give each other like advice and stuff, and I can see the potential. I think I knew this year because it was so new and like there were maybe like 15 people in there. But when people were using it I was like, yeah, this could definitely be

Vanessa

it was people, not just in our group of friends,

Sunny

yeah yeah, there were some other people too that I got in there.

Clark

It extended out one more layer. I would say

Vanessa

oh nice.

Clark

Yeah, and people were definitely utilizing it. So something to look more into and see if we can flush it out, I think in some ways.

Sunny

Yeah, sorry, I just wanted to put that out there.

Clark

No for sure

Sunny

what else did you eat, clark?

Clark

Because their food truck's always there. Mozzeria, this pizzeria that's run by all deaf staff.

Vanessa

Oh yeah, you talked about this last time.

Clark

The pizza's incredible and they're always in the same place, which is perfect for me because it's right by Cocktail Magic.

Clark

So I get myself a cocktail and then I go get pizza.

Sunny

How was Cocktail Magic?

Clark

Amazing, as it was last year, I think my favorite one was this, one called the Miami Nice, this tiki cocktail with rum and coconut and green chartreuse, which is like this, really herbaceous liqueur. But the only downside was it was like too easy to drink because it was so good. So, delicious that it was like slow down drinking this,

Sunny

chug it,

Clark

yeah. Again, highly recommend really high-level craft cocktails for about as much as you'd pay in the city and it doesn't feel like you're paying $30 for a domestic beer.

Vanessa

God yeah, okay, let's see. Did you guys meet any fun people or have any random encounters?

Sunny

I did.

Sunny

Actually, right when I got there on Saturday, I saw a girl looking at the map and she looked like she was confused, like she looked a little stressed. So I kind of just like went up to her and I was like, what are you looking for? She's like I'm looking for Twin Peaks and I was like, oh, that's this way, I'm walking that way. So then we walked together and she was there alone for the day. I got her in the whatsapp group but yeah, we were just chit-chatting. She said that because outside lands had a lot of indie groups on it this year that brought her to outside lands and she's just there by herself.

Vanessa

that's so cool,

Sunny

yeah, yeah

Vanessa

I've been to concerts by myself. I don't know that I would go to a festival by oh. I have been to a festival by myself, never mind

Sunny

which one.

Vanessa

I think it was called big country is at the same place where hinterland

Sunny

oh

Vanessa

is or yeah is in saint charles iowa.

Clark

Yeah, I didn't have any encounters like

Sunny

encounters

Vanessa

um, let's see how was the crowd.

Vanessa

Was the crowd following our crowd? Etiquette rules.

Sunny

I never had a negative experience with the crowd.

Vanessa

Good

Sunny

moving through the crowd was easy

Clark

I had no problems in the crowds ever. Only time I think I struggled a little bit with crowd was going in between stages and stuff

Vanessa

yeah, that's always the worst, I think, for me there

Clark

there

Clark

was a moment where aaron and I were coming back to the main stage and we walked where the windmill is. It felt like every 15 to 19 year old in outside lands went hey, meet me at the windmill yeah, like that's what it felt like I was like guys, you got to use other something other things.

Clark

It can't just be the windmill.

Vanessa

That was so 2015.

Clark

It was literally just that

Vanessa

when there were two,

Clark

yeah, I was like, yeah, I know we were that age one time too, but like we didn't all wear the same clothes, did we? Because literally all these kids are all wearing the same exact outfit. I'm losing my mind.

Clark

I must be so old

Sunny

Clark was like and we never like linked arm and like walked straight and I was like, yeah, we did, I was like on our way to Kendrick. We all linked arms and we were in a straight line, walking, rapping Kendrick lyrics.

Vanessa

We definitely did that.

Clark

I was like. I don't remember being that in the way.

Vanessa

We were just as annoying.

Clark

Yeah, I'm sure.

Clark

Y'all right, y'all right.

Sunny

I felt like Outside Lands really leveled up this year. They're really investing in making things feel new and making the walkways more obvious and just the decor is more modern.

Clark

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

Sunny

It felt upgraded all around.

Vanessa

Cool

Vanessa

I'm so jealous. It sounds like you guys had so much fun without me.

Vanessa

Just kidding.

Vanessa

No, I'm glad you guys had fun. I'm so sad that we missed it.

Sunny

Yeah, 2027.

Vanessa

I know I'm going to try to go next year, but no promises. 2027, 100 percent. You will see me there in 2027, unless I'm popping out a baby at that time. If I'm pregnant, I'll be there, but if I have a baby or I'm in labor, I won't

Sunny

just have a babysitter pick up the baby,

Vanessa

If we're done with Outside Lands.

Vanessa

I just wanted to give us a big pat on the back, because this month Festies turned one,

Sunny

oh yeah

Vanessa

One year old.

Clark

Happy birthday to us.

Vanessa

Happy birthday to us guys. I can't believe we've been doing this for a year. It really doesn't feel like a year, but also does at the same time

Sunny

we're doing good guys

Clark

Well, thank you listeners.

Vanessa

Yeah, yeah, if you're out there. Is there anyone alive out there? Send us a DM, let us know we're not just talking to our friends and family.

Sunny

Yeah, and if anyone else had any cool experiences at Outside Lands, we'd love to hear about them.

Clark

Oh yeah, share them.

Sunny

Is that a wrap on Outside Lands?

Vanessa

That's a wrap.

Clark

That's a.

Sunny

We missed you, Clark.

Clark

You can't wait to edit me out of all this.

Vanessa

Only slightly

Sunny

, oh boy.

Vanessa

Okay, Festies. Thank you so much for sticking with us for a full year. Follow us on instagram, tiktok and youtube at festies podcast. We do have an outside lands vlog coming out soon, so be on the lookout for that on our youtube. We'll post it on instagram and leave us a rating and review wherever you listen to us. And also, don't forget, you can always get your own pair of Eargasm earplugs and get 10 percent off with our discount code festies10, and protect your ears yeah we'll catch you on the next one bye,

Sunny

bye,

Clark

Bye.