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Why Coaching Accelerates Customer Success Leadership Growth

CS RevSpeak Episode 20

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In this episode, we unpack the leadership blind spots that keep CS leaders stuck and why trying to navigate them alone slows everything down. You’ll learn how coaching can help you build clarity, spot the patterns you’re too close to see, and move forward with sharper focus and confidence. 

This episode explores:
 ✔ Why leadership actually gets harder the more senior you become
 ✔ The difference between experience and awareness (and why both matter)
 ✔ How blind spots show up in your thinking, your org, and your strategy
 ✔ And why coaching can help you accelerate your growth without burning out

If you’re building a CS org, stepping into a bigger role, or feeling stuck somewhere in the middle, this one’s for you. You don’t have to figure it all out alone.

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Until next time, keep driving success and speaking the language of revenue!

Angeline Gavino

I'm sure you've heard the phrase, you don't know what you don't know. This phrase sounded almost comical to me the first time I heard it because in my mind I was like, of course you don't. Isn't that obvious? But the longer I've been in leadership, the more I've realized just how powerful that statement really is. Because not knowing what you don't know is exactly what holds so many leaders back from their next level of growth. And I say that with empathy because I've been there. I've led customer success orgs at different stages. I've coached a lot of customer success leaders. I've worked across startups and scale-ups. And if there's one thing I've seen over and over again, it's this. There's no shortage of resources telling you what great CS leadership looks like, but what's often missing are the in-between steps, the messy middle that no one talks about. You're navigating shifting expectations, building new motions, coaching your team, trying to align cross-functionally, and somehow still figuring it all out as you go. And that's the part no one really prepares you for. And the truth is, experience is the best teacher. But if you've never done it before, it can feel like you're piecing everything together from scratch. There's trial and error. There are lessons you learn the hard way, and it almost always takes longer than you expect it. But what I've learned and what I want to share with you today is this you don't have to figure it all out alone. When you work with someone who's done it before, who's seen the patterns, who can help you spot what you're not seeing, it changes everything. That's why in this episode, I want to unpack why blind spots exist and how they quietly show up for customer success leaders. The difference between experience and awareness. And I'm telling you, they're not the same. And why coaching can help you accelerate your leadership growth and how investing in your own development has a ripple effect across your team and your business. Let's get into it. Welcome to the CS RevSpeak podcast, where we talk about practical insights, strategies, and frameworks that will help customer success leaders who carry a revenue number, drive sustainable growth, maximize customer lifetime value, and crush their numbers. It actually gets harder at the top. This is the paradox of leadership. The higher you go, the harder it gets, and the less support you often have. Yes, you might have a bigger title, more visibility, a seat at the table, but you also carry more responsibility, more ambiguity, more pressure to get it right without always having the support or guidance to get there. When you're an individual contributor, your job is to focus on your own outcomes. You execute, you deliver, you're measured on your personal performance. But when you step into leadership, that changes. You're no longer just responsible for what you can do. You're responsible for what your entire team can achieve. And that's a different kind of challenge altogether. Suddenly, it's not just about what you can execute, it's about how you guide others to perform at their best, how you build systems that scale, how to coach, develop, and retain your people, how to influence internal stakeholders, how you communicate across functions, how you drive strategy while still keeping your team focused on execution. And more often than not, you're doing all of that without anyone showing you how. There's no playbook handed to you when you become a head of CS, no formal training when you move into a VP role. You're just expected to figure it out and fast. But how do you figure it out when it's all brand new territory? How do you lead through complex org changes if you've never done it before? How do you coach your managers when no one ever coached you? How do you balance strategic planning, stakeholder alignment, team development, and customer outcomes without burning out? That's where so many leaders get stuck, not because they're not capable, but because they're navigating challenges that they've never faced before and without a map. And this is exactly why blind spots creep in at the top. Because the more senior you become, the fewer people there are above you to give you feedback, to challenge your thinking, or to help you see what you're missing. And yet, you're still expected to have all the answers. Leadership demands a different way of thinking, a different way of operating. And if you've never been taught what to look for, how could you possibly see it? And the hard part isn't knowing what to do, it's figuring out how to get there. And there's no shortage of advice out there. You can find endless content on how to build and scale customer success, playbooks, frameworks, best practices, toolkits, maturity models, you name it, and it's great. I've created a lot of those resources myself, but the real challenge isn't the what. It's not what should I be doing as a CS leader. It's the how. How do I bring this to life in my specific business with the constraints I'm working under, the stakeholders I have, and the team I've got today? And honestly, that's where most CS leaders get stuck. I work with so many leaders who start out trying to piece things together on their own. They'd read a blog here, copy a template there, pull ideas from LinkedIn posts and podcasts, trying to build their strategy by stitching together what worked for others. And listen, I admire that resourcefulness. That's how most of us start. But here's what often happens next trial and error. Because what worked beautifully for one company at, let's say, I don't know, Series D doesn't translate at your Series A startup. What made sense in a high-touch enterprise model will completely fall apart in a hybrid or a scaled CS environment. What looks good in a maturity model may not be practical when you're checking renewals, onboarding, adoption gaps, and internal alignment without any real support structure in place. Because we all know this, CS is not one size fits all. It looks different depending on your product, your market, your current ARR, your internal stakeholders, your maturity curve, even your customers. So figuring it all out alone becomes exhausting. You try one approach, it doesn't stick. You test a new playbook, but your team struggles to adopt it. You roll out a process and then realize three months later that it wasn't solving the right problem to begin with. It's not that you're doing anything wrong. It's that doing this in isolation is incredibly hard because there is a massive gap between theory and execution, between reading the playbook and knowing how to adapt it in your world with your people at your stage. And that's the part most leaders aren't prepared for. Not because they don't know what they should be doing, but because they're tired of trying to figure out every single step alone. This is where coaching changes everything. Because the moment you stop trying to figure it all out in isolation, everything starts to move faster with more clarity and a whole lot less second guessing. When you work with someone who's been in your shoes, someone who's actually built CS teams from scratch, skilled through growing pains, and navigated all the same messy dynamics, is by getting a shortcut through the middle that no one ever talks about. And listen, it's not a sign of weakness to need that support. It's how to best perform at their highest level. I mean, even Olympic athletes have coaches, startup founders have advisors, and some of the most high-performing executives that I know, they have coaches and mentors behind the scenes, helping them sharpen their thinking, challenge their assumptions, and navigate complexity with more confidence. Why should you be any different? Especially when you're being asked to do more with less, drive revenue growth, lead cross-functional strategy, build scalable systems, coach your team, and still have time to think clearly through it all. You need a space that's just for you. You need a sounding board, you need pressure testing for your ideas. You need someone who's not going to nod invalidate, but someone who will say, that sounds good on paper, but here's how that actually plays out when you've got a $10 million book of business and your CEO wants results yesterday. That's what a coach gives you. Clarity, context, calibration. And coaching isn't about handing you a list of answers, it's about helping you sharpen your own thinking so you can lead with more confidence and make faster, better decisions. It's about helping you spot the real problem beneath the noise because often what you think is a bandwidth issue is actually a prioritization problem. What feels like low performance might be unclear expectations. What looks like team misalignment could be a leadership communication gap. And when you're deep in it, when you're juggling 100 things at once, it's hard to see those patterns on your own. That's what coaching helps in law. It gives you space to zoom out, to reflect on the decisions you're making, the way you're showing up, and the leadership habits you've unconsciously built. It gives you a safe, high trust space to think out loud, challenge your assumptions, and get brutally honest about what's working and what's not. Because the higher up you go, the fewer people you can actually talk to. You can't always workshop your internal dilemmas with your team. You don't want to bring unfiltered uncertainty into your one-on-ones with your manager. And you definitely don't want to air your internal conflicts in a Slack channel. But when you are in a coaching conversation, you finally get to take the armor off. You get to bring the real questions, the real tension, the real decisions you're grappling with. And that's when transformation starts. Not because someone told you what to do, but because you finally had space to think clearly with someone who sees the patterns and helps you connect the dots. Listen, coaching is a strategic lever because the CS leaders who invest in this kind of support aren't just more confident, they build better systems, develop stronger teams, and get results faster. Not through hustle, but through clarity. And that's what I love most about this work, helping leaders like you bridge the gap between theory and execution, between knowing what to do and actually building something that drives results, scales sustainably, and supports your team in the process. Now, if you're listening to this and thinking, okay, I get it, coaching sounds helpful, but what does it actually look like in practice? So let me pull back the curtain a little bit. Because I know that for a lot of leaders, the word coaching can feel a little abstract. But the work I do with CS leaders is anything but that. It's not just theory, it's not just pep talks, it's not mindset work, and it's definitely not just feel-good reflection with no real outcomes. What I do is what I actually like to call coach sulting. It blends the best of both the worlds. The space and structure of coaching, where we explore your blind spots, challenge your assumptions, and build your leadership thinking, combined with the practicality of consulting. So you walk away with tangible solutions, frameworks, templates, and guidance to solve real problems in your team. So whether you're navigating a difficult situation, trying to get unstuck, or working through a major strategy shift, this approach gives you both the clarity and the tools to move forward. Sometimes it's helping ahead of CS rethink how they're structuring their team after a re-org. Sometimes it's walking through a tough renewal forecasting process and helping you build a better operating rhythm. Sometimes it's preparing for a critical executive meeting and crafting the story you need to tell. One CS leader I work with recently told me this was the first time I felt like I had a partner who not only understood what I was going through, but could actually help me fix it with both mindset and method. I'll be building the playbook and strategy with you based on your context, your team, your product, your stage of growth. And beyond that, we'll work together on how you can execute that playbook. I've had the privilege of working with CS leaders in all kinds of situations, each one facing unique challenges, but all with one thing in common. They needed clarity, direction, and a trusted partner to help them lead more efficiently. I work with a first-time head of CS who had just stepped into the role and wasn't sure what to prioritize in the first 90 days. Together, we built a clear plan covering stakeholder alignment, team assessment, customer insights, and setting up the right rhythms early. I supported a first CS hire at a startup who was handed the reins, but no structure, no process, no baseline. We rolled up our sleeves and built a foundation, like you know, customer segmentation, onboarding flows, value frameworks, and internal alignment strategies. What started as a team of one is now a growing strategic function. I coach a CS leader whose company was shifting towards a revenue ownership model. Her team wasn't used to talking about commercial outcomes, let alone driving them. So we worked on building commercial acumen, success plan frameworks, and playbooks for expansion conversations. Today, her team is confidently driving upsells and renewals with a revenue mindset without losing trust with customers. And here's another one. I partnered with a CS leader who was in the middle of a churn spiral. Customers were dropping off, the team was reactive, and morale was low. We identified root causes, which is lack of proactive engagement, unclear success metrics, and disconnected value delivery. And we revamped the operating model, retrained the team in discovery and success planning, and rebuilt the customer journey. Within a quarter, leading indicators started to shift, and so did retention. These are just some of the different scenarios, but every one of these leaders that I've worked with had different contexts, team sizes, and challenges. But again, they all shared a common question. How do I lead through this complexity and build something that actually works? That's what I help you do. Not just build a strategy that looks good on paper or on slides, but turn it into a system that actually drives outcomes in the real world. And let me tell you, the biggest shift most leaders experience in coaching isn't just better strategy. It's better clarity. You start leading more intentionally, you stop spinning your wheels, you stop feeling like you're piecing things together from a thousand LinkedIn posts and blog articles. You finally feel like you have a clear path forward and someone in your corner as you walk it. And if that's the kind of girl you're looking for, I'd love to support you. If you're in a head of CS or VP role and you're feeling stretched, stuck or unsure where to focus next, if you're trying to level up your thinking, sharpen your strategy, or build a stronger operating rhythm for your team, maybe this is the moment to stop trying to figure it all out on your own. Maybe what you need isn't more content, is a partner in your corner, someone to help you zoom out, see what you're not seeing, and help you move forward faster. That's what I do. If you've been thinking about investing in coaching or even just curious about what it could look like, reach out. Let's have a conversation. You can drop me a message on LinkedIn or schedule a consultation call through my website. It's free. It's a chance to explore whether coaching is the right next step for you. Because sometimes all it takes is a small shift in how you think, how you lead, and how you show up, and everything else starts to move forward. And of course, as usual, let's keep this conversation going. Where's one area of your leadership where you know you need a shift but haven't had a chance or space to work on it? What's one thing you suspect might be a blind spot, but haven't explored yet? Tag me on LinkedIn, share your reflections, or DM me. I'd love to hear what's resonating with you. And don't forget to subscribe to the CS RevSpeak newsletter for more leadership frameworks, real world insights, and revenue-driven CS strategies. Thanks for listening, and I'll see you in the next episode. If you enjoyed today's episode and you want to learn more about CS RevSpeak's coaching and training services, head on over to www.csrevspeak.com. I specialize in working with customer success leaders who carry your revenue number, and I look forward to helping you confidently run a revenue generating customer success team. Don't forget to connect with us on LinkedIn and join our Customer Success Leaders Hub for more discussions, resources, and networking opportunities. You can access the links on the show notes. See you next episode.