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The Spiritual Art of Letting Go
Autumn whispers to us of nature's sacred rhythm—a time for harvesting what nourishes us and releasing what doesn't. But why do we cling so tightly to things that no longer serve us?
In this soul-stirring conversation, Lizzy and Nikki explore the transformative power of conscious release and how creating space through letting go becomes the very catalyst for manifesting what truly aligns with our highest purpose. Through vulnerable personal stories—from walking away from prestigious career positions to outgrowing friendships that once felt essential—they illuminate how identity attachment, fear of loss, and societal expectations keep us tethered to what we've outgrown.
The conversation flows through practical wisdom about recognizing when something has become energetically draining rather than fulfilling. Your body knows—that heaviness, tension, or fatigue signals misalignment, while activities aligned with your purpose leave you energized rather than depleted. This natural feedback becomes your compass for what to keep and what to release.
Discover powerful rituals for conscious release—from fire ceremonies and movement practices to water visualizations—that help dislodge stagnant energy and create sacred space for new beginnings. As we collectively enter 2025, a universal "9" year of completion and endings, this practice becomes even more essential.
The most profound insight? Releasing isn't just about letting go—it's about creating space for manifestation. When you finally empty your hands of what weighs you down, they become free to receive the gifts that await you. What might you release this autumn season to welcome what your soul truly desires?
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Hi, I'm Lizzie and I'm Nikki. Have you ever felt that your life was missing purpose, joy or deep connection? Welcome to the Modern Zen Collective podcast, where we embrace holistic living for a joyful, purpose-driven life.
Speaker 2:In this podcast, we'll explore holistic practices, consciousness expansion and spiritual alignment. We will dive into personal development practices that connect mind, body, spirit and share secrets that ancient cultures have known for centuries. Together, we aim to guide, educate and connect individuals eager to transform their lives.
Speaker 1:Join us weekly on the Modern Zen Collective podcast and elevate your mind, body and spirit. And now on to today's episode.
Speaker 3:As the air shifts and the days grow shorter, nature whispers a simple truth that every season has its own rhythm and so do we this September on the Modern Zen Collective podcast.
Speaker 3:We're leaning into the season of harvest and release. Together we'll explore how to gather the wisdom and blessings we've cultivated this year, gently release what no longer serves us and align our lives with the deeper cycles of nature. From deep conversations on the seasons of life to interviews with holistic wellness practitioners, to practical with holistic wellness practitioners, to practical rituals for letting go, each episode this month is designed to help you move with a natural flow, not against it, because when we honor the season we're in, life unfolds with more clarity, ease and purpose. So welcome and let's get going.
Speaker 2:So welcome, and let's get going. Content Release.
Speaker 3:Okay, just take a deep breath for a second.
Speaker 2:For sure, you are everywhere and everything right now.
Speaker 3:So many things, mm-hmm. All right, hello everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Modern Zen Collective Podcast. To another episode of the Modern Zen Collective Podcast. Lizzie and Nikki here today to have a great episode and talk about the spiritual art of letting go, so welcome.
Speaker 2:Welcome, and we're doing this right around this eclipse season. That's happening. It has a shadow before and after, during the eclipse, and the art of letting go, and we're going to talk about how it can feel like a security blanket to hold on to something that might not be, you know, in the right field or shouldn't be held on to, and how to let it go and create space. So Lizzie and I have both had some things throughout our lives, especially since we've met each other, that have you know, brought us together, where we release things, that brought us into where we are today. So we're excited to talk about all this with you.
Speaker 3:Yes, and it's the perfect time because, if you listened to the episode earlier this month, fall or autumn time is all about harvesting first, so being grateful for and harvesting all of the wonderful things that we planted early on this year in the spring, all the manifestations that we're having happen in our lives, and then releasing, and so it's just like the trees releasing the leaves, like this time of year. This is a great time of year to really be thinking about this, to be reflecting on this and to be finally saying I'm letting this go at this moment. And also, we talked about this year. 2025 is the universal year nine, so it's also the year of death and endings. It's the final year in the nine-year cycle that we all go through so collectively. It is a year for things to come to an end. I'm sure we've been seeing that out in society and in all across cultures around the world, but it's also something that I'm sure you're witnessing on a very personal level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially with this potent energy of the nine, like you were saying, september and it being a nine year, things are coming to a head and just preparing us for this next evolution, for the year one that will start when we release December and get into January. So getting into that year one as a collective and all the new beginnings. We need to create space to get there. And with that, you know thinking of times when, when I had to release, and whenever I, you know, thought it was time to release something and maybe released it when I wasn't completely a hundred percent ready yet. I could have waited to be 110% ready, but I knew I needed to release it at that time.
Speaker 2:And one that comes up a lot for me is leaving my corporate job. I was in sales, I was in recruiting, I was in HR, I was in startups, I was in the corporate setting and I knew that in my bones that it wasn't the right fit for me. About six months before I ended up leaving, I was working with a coach, and that coach and I went through a lot of different exercises from the Vedas and a lot of those were looking at what my future would look like if I kept doing the same thing and then looking at it from a negative standpoint. If I make no changes, am I going to be 20 years older and in the same situation that I'm in now? And that really shook me up. To want to adjust and leave and take the leap. And letting go of that role was letting go of an identity for me, because for myself, I was on the leadership team, I was head of HR, I was moving forward into becoming a VP of HR and everything that I wanted to do. I really just wanted to be a chief people officer, corner office, all the things like all of that was what I wanted, but I didn't actually like the job itself. I love the people piece, I love the recruiting piece, but the HR part was not something that I felt I was great at or was the right fit and it was something that was almost like a square pig in a round hole me trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2:So, releasing that role and letting it go, I did it before I was ready. I didn't have another job lined up. I was lucky enough to have some savings, to be able to have a buffer, to take some time to clear my head and I decided I just wanted to leave and take the leap and see where that took me, and part of that decision was also I was doing the company a disservice being in this role and not being the best person for that role, and I thought they really could use someone who. This is their purpose, their life, they are going to love doing this and they are going to be fulfilled and they're going to be amazing at this.
Speaker 2:And that was a big one for me. That really catapulted me into stepping into my purpose and stepping into the things that I really want to do and the things that I love doing and serving others and Reiki and yoga, pilates, the business with Lizzie, everything that we have going on here that we've been building for a while and I feel like I released a weight, but also it opened up so much space for me to bring in the new. And that weight that I released came with wisdom, so it wasn't for nothing. It came with the wisdom behind it that I was able to learn and grow from those experiences.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so interesting because when we do hold on for things to too long, it does start to feel like a weight. I feel like we might not notice it right away, but as we progress, as we've already had this realization that this is no longer for us or this isn't really lining up anymore, or even maybe you're not even at that point, but you're like something's off, like this doesn't really feel good anymore, this doesn't feel quite right. This isn't something I'm excited about, this isn't a person I want to go see, this isn't a thing I want to go do, this isn't something I want to go talk about. Like, even once you have that realization, like the longer you hold on to it, I feel like it does get heavier, like it gets, it gets heavier on our bodies, and it's not that our bodies are heavier, it's the energetic weight of holding onto something that is no longer in alignment for you. And I think something that you just said, nikki, that's like so key that I really want to highlight is like this link between releasing this thing and then creating and opening up this space for manifestation to come in, for new opportunities to come in, for things that you're really excited about.
Speaker 3:Time you now have space, you now have energy to be able to give and say yes to this new thing that if maybe you hadn't had released the thing before like Nikki her job, she wasn't able to step into this role that she is in now as a healer, as someone who has all this wisdom and all these different modalities and stuff. She wouldn't have been able to do any of those things if she was still spending all of her time, all of her energy, day in and day out, in something that is sucking from her instead of giving to her. Because if any of y'all have experienced this, when you're doing something that you're truly meant to be doing, that you really are good at, that you love doing, it's a strength of yours. When you're finished with it, you're juiced up, you have more energy, you have more fire, you have more passion than less.
Speaker 2:Yes, it ignites you Exactly, it fires you up. And when you are working for you could be working for someone else and really love your job and it fires you up and that's fantastic. But if you find yourself working hard for someone else's purpose and it's not actually yours, that's when it becomes really draining also. And you, you know, like Lizzie said, carrying this burden, like you're just carrying it with you and with you and with you, and it almost becomes like a security blanket. We don't know what it's like Joe Dispenza talks about that. We don't know who we are without that identity.
Speaker 2:And it's having that awareness and that feeling like somatic in your body. Is this right for me, Is this not right for me? And then having the strength to take the leap, try something new, whatever that may be. I don't know how many times I have I don't know if you have Lizzie but I've had friends or family complain about their jobs constantly and then when they get fired or laid off, it's the end of the world and it's that identity around. This was a big part of who I was, which is understandable.
Speaker 2:Our society really puts a lot of pressure and a lot of weight on that of what your career is.
Speaker 2:But it's when you have those you start to have those ideas and pings and emotions of I don't like my job every day or I don't like this interaction every day, I don't like this habit every day, and you start to just drown in the lower emotions and live there instead of letting them flow through. You're just creating more of that negativity, like Lizzie said, to carry with you and the weight gets heavier and heavier and heavier, Whereas if you were in this job or having this relationship or this habit, whatever it is, and you start to feel angry or frustrated or irritated about it and you start to take control of the ship and make the change yourself, instead of waiting for someone else to do it for you. Then you start to adjust and release what you need to release, to call in the new, instead of holding on and letting someone else do it for you. But I guess, with all that, Lizzie, what would you say is something that you've released.
Speaker 3:Well, I think you know, before I even share that it's the things that you've been speaking about, like the reasons why we really hold on to these things. Like Nikki was saying, it's like the fear of loss, you know, or the fear of change big change or little change, change than others and the last thing, like belief that we should ought to have this, we should ought to keep this, we should ought to be this, and I think mine kind of really goes off of that last one, like Nikki was saying, like when your identity gets tied up in something, and I think one of the things, the bigger things that I've released more recently at the beginning of this year, was my board seat. I had been on the Benbrook Parks and Recreation Board since my mid-20s, been on it for eight years and every term is two years, so you have to reapply every two years. But once you're in, you're pretty much in. And it's so funny because when I decided to get on the board, you know I went to college for Parks and Recreation Management. I'm here in Texas working in something that has nothing to do with parks and recreation, so I wanted to use my expertise in some sort of way. So my passion. I wanted to still feel that passion when I was in this soul-sucking corporate job in transportation and once I got in it was just really exciting.
Speaker 3:I know they brought me on because boards always look for different people, different walks of life, all this different stuff to bring in. They brought me in because I was young, I had a lot of energy, I had a lot of great ideas. I was really excited about it. I was a really good fit for this room of much older people that had honestly probably been serving in some sort of board capacity for 10 plus years. You know, and it was just what they did. You know and you know, the first four years no, the first term the first two years I was just on the board. The next two years I was the vice chairperson and the next four years so my last two years I was just on the board. The next two years I was the vice chairperson and the next four years so my last four years I was the chairperson of the Pembroke Parks and Recreation Board.
Speaker 3:So you know there's a lot that goes with that. When I walk into a room and people want to know about my service record, oh, I'm the chairperson. I run the Parks and Rec Board. You know, for my city, you know there's a whole thing that goes with that and honestly it's an ego thing, but it's something that society holds up, something that society puts weight behind, so it like almost gives you even more of a pat on the back than you're already giving yourself because you're there, you know. And so for me, I was in a leadership role last year with Junior League and I was our rep.
Speaker 3:Oh, this was two years ago. I was our representative for Leadership Fort Worth, which is a big leadership nonprofit here in Fort Worth that brings together leaders from across the community, from different sectors, to create connections, synergies and we learn about the history of Fort Worth and how to become active stewards and voices of moving the city forward, as we have all this expansion and change coming. And while I was in this, you know we talked a lot about board service. I went through board build, education programs, certification programs, all this different stuff, and what I realized is that when I saw my meeting for the Benbrook Parks and Recreation Board on my calendar that week, I was like, oh, I have to go to that. Dang, we're just. I don't even want to say what I'm thinking right now but anyway, I was not excited about going.
Speaker 3:We'll just say I was not excited about going and it was like, oh, I have to spend two hours away from my family tonight, oh, I have to get all gussied up, just drive over there and do this and then come back and we're going to be on TV. And I got to, you know, say all the things and make all the motions and do everything, just right, you know. And I realized, man, this just isn't right for me anymore. I was literally just staying on to say that I was the chairperson of the Benbrook Parks and Recreation Board Like that is it. It was the total ego thing at that point. It wasn't Board Like that is it. It was the total ego thing at that point. It wasn't because I was excited about it, it wasn't because I was passionate about it. Could I do it? Yes, could I be a good participant and somebody who shows up and is like there? Yes, I was there. Yes, I was paying attention. Yes, I was offering my insights and my advice and listening and all the things. Yes, I was there doing all the things that I should have been doing. However, the energy behind it was not there. It wasn't the right energy anymore.
Speaker 3:And what I thought to myself is there are so many other opportunities out there for me to be on a board. I need to just let this go. It's time to create space. Just like Nikki said about the HR role, it's time to create space for someone else who is new, who is excited, who just moved here, or who has young kids, who really wants to help make decisions for this city, to step into this role. And it was funny because when I went to the appreciation dinner with everyone, they gave me a plaque which has the wrong freaking start year on it. By the way, they jipped me by four years, ps. I'm like what is this bullshit? I've been on here for eight years. Why does it say I only serve for four? Like, oh, are you only counting chairperson time? Because I don't think that that's right. But anyways, I got a plaque that isn't even accurate.
Speaker 2:Oh my God.
Speaker 3:But it was funny because everyone's like, oh, I'm sad to see you go, or oh, you need you should say, or oh, would you want to be on a different board? And you know, as I sat there and we went around the room and everyone said their years of service and what boards they were on and stuff, as I sat there and we went around the room and everyone said their years of service and what boards they were on and stuff, I was in a room with people that have been recycled through all these boards in Benbrook and they've been serving on boards for 20 years more. And in everything that I've learned, I've learned that you should have more turnover than that. It's about the ideas, it's about the energy, it's about new, bringing in new things, because we have all the stuff that's already set. Now, how can we make it better? And I was like they're not going to have any new ideas. If everybody just are now, 80 years old, still serving these seats on the boards, how is anything ever going to improve, you know?
Speaker 3:And so I just share that, because I was scared of losing this clout.
Speaker 3:I was scared of losing this title, this thing that I got to tell other people when I was out in the leadership community that I did, you know, and I was, and society tells you that should matter more than who you are, and I should keep it because I've done it for so long and I've earned it and I'm here and who knows when I'm going to get another opportunity.
Speaker 3:But that's that's not. It's not serving anything by holding on to things like that, because how would I be available to start sitting on a board of a brand new nonprofit or on the board of something that I now really care about and is very important to me, because I have a three-year-old and a one-year-old, you know, or I'm about to live a location-free camper lifestyle, like, as I step into that, I'm sure I'm going to start to care about way different things than I cared about as a person who lives in a home in the same city, in a suburb, in a neighborhood, you know. I just think as life changes, so do our things that we really care about changes. So why should we hold so tight when we don't have any room to like? Do the things that we actually start to feel passionate?
Speaker 2:about. Yeah, and you bring up such a good point about the ego and how the ego, how it could be pure ego wanting. I mean, it's as simple as that of wanting to have that title and that position and be able to talk about it and speak about it. And you and I've had conversations about this before, about how we're kind of moving into this whatever you want to call it 5D Age of Aquarius, the evolution of what's going on here. And it's going to come down to who you are at your soul and your core rather than what you do on here. And it's going to come down to who you are at your soul and your core rather than what you do on paper.
Speaker 2:That's why there's so much happening, with the great resignation and the adjustments and everything going on in the job market and everything. But I mean, and even you looking at the board and seeing how stale it could be if you would have stayed there for another 10 years, because there was no turnover, no new ideas coming from outside of the box, it was just all rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat and they brought you in to be like that was. I feel like that was their way to show, like we could bring someone in young to help do it, but then we just want her to stay until she's 80. So hang out here. You're not allowed to leave.
Speaker 3:And it makes me feel like wanted and needed in that way. But it's just like. That's why it can be so hard to let go, you know, because we have all these external things telling us we should stay and this is important and this is what we should be doing and everything, and it just honestly. It takes that time where you start to, like, really tune into yourself and tune into your body and tune into how you're feeling and your emotions and your energies. And I think, like you know, this can show up different for all of us in our bodies, but it can look the same, like it's tension, it's weight, it's fatigue, it's being tired. Like we just said, when you're doing something that lights you up, you have energy. After, do you feel absolutely drained after you hang out with this person? Do you feel absolutely drained after you finish that task, after you leave that meeting? How is your body showing you that this is no longer in alignment? And that can be emotional too, that can be energetic, that can show up and, like we've been mentioning, it's not just work, it's not just board positions, it's not just doing these things, that's it's relationships, it's like your best friend that you've had for years for like, and this has happened to me.
Speaker 3:I had a really I had a friend that I met and we just connected and we are friends, best friends, for five years. And there was this point where I needed her. I needed her to be there for me when I was going through a dark night of the soul, like two months, where I was just in a very dark, rough place and I didn't know what to do and I needed friends that I could trust and confide in. And when she didn't show up for me in that time when I asked her to, that was a sign to me that it was. We were not the type of friendship that I wanted to continue on anymore.
Speaker 3:You know, it's fine if we're a friend, acquaintance, but you were one of my best friends and I called you and I needed you and you weren't there, you know, and so I think that's another thing. Like relationships, it might be girl, your girlfriends, it might be a partner, like a romantic partner, but I think that can also be very hard. I don't know. I know that we've all had experiences like this and I feel like sometimes letting go of friendships can be even harder than letting go of like lover. You know partner relationships, because there's this thought that we're going to be best friends forever and I think as we change and as we have different experiences like life changes and our beliefs can change, and that can be. Another thing that we need to let go of is relationships that are no longer feeding or fueling us but that are fatiguing or sucking, taking from us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're working on things yourself and working on uncovering shadows or just following your purpose, releasing things, you're moving a lot of energy inside of you. So that energy that was matched with that partner romantically or as a friend might not be a match anymore. And it might not be a match because you both are working on things and you both are working on things and your energy splits. Or it might be a mismatch because one of you is working on things and one of you isn't. And it's okay to let those things go, because those relationships can still come back. They can come back again when you two have that magnetic pull again and things are okay.
Speaker 2:I've had instances like this in friendships too, and times where there's not even a conversation about how, oh yeah, there's not um. Times where there's not even like a, a conversation about how, oh yeah, we're not friends anymore. It's just like okay, like we just we just don't talk as much anymore, like with uh friends that I had when I lived in um in Denver, um, I, I adore them so much and if we picked up the phone and talked, we could talk and everything would be fine. But there's also, you know, for this time, of letting go. It can be letting go of now. It's in a different time, a different season of my life.
Speaker 2:I've lived in Chicago for 10 plus years and those people that I talk to every single day my whole 20s when I was in Denver like that whole rhythm has changed because they're changing too and I'm changing too and we're still connected, like Lizzie's saying, like acquaintances, like we still are in touch with each other here and there and everything like that. But just the magnetic energy and the effort of us, you know, doing that and talking to each other is not as much as it was before and, like Lizzie said, it's because it doesn't feel natural. It wouldn't feel natural for me to just call some of these friends every single day, because that's just what the energy was before. It's not the energy now and it's okay to let go of that into the new era of what that relationship looks like. So maybe it's not. Even relationships can be black and white and you know it's a done deal. It can be that they just evolve into something different and they're very malleable as you're moving around.
Speaker 3:And even, like you just mentioned, the habit of talking to them every day, even habits. It might be time to release habits and I think the top of mind one that comes to me is like alcohol, and I don't know why that's like the top of mind thing, but I think it's because I think about it quite a bit now, because I don't have anything against alcohol at all and I drank a lot in my twenties. Like we're not going to sugarcoat this, we had fun. But I think now that I've got these, that I have kids, now that I'm 36, I just turned 36, you know, I only drink socially now and that just means when we go out with friends I will drink. When we're in like a group setting, like that, and we're doing something, I drink.
Speaker 3:I don't drink at home, don't drink like by myself, I don't drink with even just my husband I don't.
Speaker 3:We don't really drink by ourselves at home or anything.
Speaker 3:And sometimes I float around the idea of like not drinking at all, like should I just not drink at all for health reasons, you know, and um, and I think that's just something we can all reflect on, and I don't even mean alcohol, but like habits that you're just used to doing, and this isn't to say that I'm going to give up drinking.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. This is just saying, like, maybe some questions like question things, question how you spend your time, question who you spend your time with, question what you do in your daily routines and rituals and habits. Question what you do in your daily routines and rituals and habits and I think the biggest question that I think is great, when you, like what I was saying, bring awareness to these things that you might be open to, like letting go or having some more deep thought about, if I let this go, what space opens up. Like, if I let this go, what space opens up. Like, if I let this go, what space opens up, because it really does come down to, like Taylor Swift said and I'm not a Swifty, but like Taylor Swift said the other day on the other podcast, she said you know you have to treat your energy like it's expensive, like it's currency, and not everyone, not everything, not every place can afford you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and not every habit can afford you, like taking inventory of those habits, whatever they may be, and even you looking at alcohol, like awareness is 90% of the process. So now that you just have that idea in your head and you start to play with it, of like what would this feel like, what would this be, that's the part of that's the start of doing the release and releasing what it is that you're ready to remove and open up space into, you know the next era, your next chapter and everything that you have coming towards you. And it's not a scary chapter because it's very exciting.
Speaker 2:Like Simon Sinek has this like quick talk where he talked about how the energy of nervousness and excitement are so parallel. But you can. You can turn it in a second from nervous to excitement. Like you know that heart racing, maybe your palms are sweaty, maybe your anticipation, your body has this buzz to it. And he talked about in a talk he did maybe five or 10 years ago, about how you can easily switch that from nervousness to excitement. And I think that's part of this here. When you are releasing what you know is ready to be released, it's excitement on the other side of the unknown of what's to come, of something so much better that's going to align with you and help you grow and magnetize you into your purpose, who you are, your authenticity, all of the things to make you who you are, and to not feel like a pain or a struggle or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I love that and you know, here on Modern Zen Collective we love to give you tangible, actual practices and things to do. That's why we release two minimum of two practice episodes a month on the podcast alone, let alone the stuff that we give to our subscribers and people who are on our mailing list and everything. And tonight I think we just want to share a few rituals that you can go to for release, and my go-to is a fire-releasing ritual, like a burning ceremony with fire, with paper, with all the things outside, preferably inside, as long as you have a good container that you can light shit on fire and drop into and it won't light your house on fire and then make sure you put the fire out. Yeah, but I love a good fire releasing ritual and that just comes to taking the time ritual and that just comes to like taking the time, having the right space, creating some stillness, creating some time for yourself, writing down the things that you want to release on the paper and burning them up and watching them burn, doing something with the ashes. I like to go and put them outside afterwards if I didn't do it outside, something like that. So I love a good fire releasing ritual and we actually have one of those in our workbook for our 30-day manifestation challenge that we're right in the middle of right now Well, not in the middle of, we're in the beginning of Started on the 2nd.
Speaker 3:So if you're interested, you can even do this in the next 30 days. If you just want to sign up right now to get the material for you to do this in October, that's totally fine. But there is a fire releasing ritual that I wrote out. That's in the workbook, if you're interested in something like that. But what's your go-to Nikki? What's your go-to releasing ritual?
Speaker 2:Releasing energy, just feeling that I love body movement. I'm a big, big fan of the mind-body-spirit connection and I can feel in my body when I'm holding onto something. And this started when I moved to Denver right after college and I was having debilitating anxiety attacks and I have a podcast episode about this. We'll link it below. But I learned how my body was speaking to me and I wasn't moving my body and all of my excess energy was built up. So for me to have one, a healthy practice, just for my week, week to week, day to day, and then also to help me release, is moving my body and whether that is yoga. I teach yoga about between five to 10 classes a week, just depending on what the schedule is, whether it's my own yoga practice, my own Pilates practice, but also I love shaking Sahara.
Speaker 3:Rose taught us that a long time ago, when we were talking about each other, right?
Speaker 2:So listening to a song and just shaking it out and the energy I feel like, if you ever feel like a dark energy come over you or you feel someone's energy was terrible you're with or you just feel like there's just muck like darkness around you, the shaking is the thing that like with me, it's like a light switch. I can shake for one to three minutes and I feel like a new person. So that's one that really, really and I think that's aligned with. Also, I really love Qigong, like the energy movement, and that also has a lot of like bouncing and shaking and moving your aura and opening your energy centers. But there's something to be said of just moving those around so that that stuck energy can be gone can release.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely Whenever I have my sacred women circles, after we all share, I put on a song and we just do shaking, because it's like when you share deep, vulnerable things, when stuff comes up, when you're releasing things, energy, like you said, gets moved around and it's just so much easier to like get it out at that point by like releasing it all the way and shaking, Sometimes, even when I feel like stuff on me like yucky, like I'm like ugh, get this off of me. I'll take my hand and I will like wipe down my arms, wipe off my body, Just kind of like you got something on your shirt and you're just like wiping it off and I just it's just like sloughing, Nothing's coming off. But for me it's like energy. I'm like get this oh for sure Nastiness off of me.
Speaker 3:Like I feel like after you see, you hang out with or you see somebody even if you're in a store and someone just like nasty, like the person that checked you out, or you or you were in an aisle with someone who just had RBF, you know hardcore in there Like just you know, you can just feel it Like I just like bro, I'm like get off of me, like I'm not taking you with me.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm not carrying you home with me. That's too heavy for sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Another thing like. So we talked about fire, we talked about movement, like. The other thing is like a water ritual, like any sort of water releasing ritual using flowing water, using the ocean. I'm going to link one of my favorite Londrell songs. You guys are going to love Londrell if you listen to him. I'm going to link one of his songs underneath and I think it's called the trauma release meditation. So he talks, it's a song, but he also guides you through this meditation and it's a visualization of releasing something into the ocean. So maybe you don't have an ocean near you or some flowing water, but you can do a visualization that does the same thing, and so I'll link that song along with what Nikki was talking about.
Speaker 3:So we can actually have some things for you below as well, and we'll link the Manifestation Challenge sign up. So if you are interested in getting that fire releasing ritual that we wrote out, you can get that as well. But the thing that we kind of just want to remind you, to wrap up, is that when you release, it's not just that you're don't think of it as just letting go of something. You're also creating space for something new. You're creating go of something. You're also creating space for something new. You're creating space for opportunity. You're creating space for manifestation. You're creating space for the things that you say you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, You're creating that open container and that space to fill with something new. So a vital part of this we talk about this a bit in the manifestation challenges, when you shake up the energy and maybe you do release is to start taking that actionable step towards your desire, because the universe wants to match like with like. So that's why if you're in a relationship and it's not great and you break up and you date the same guy in a different bodysuit four different times because you didn't actually release and let it go and move actionable steps towards what that could be for your future self. So release, create that openness and then have that curiosity and that awareness of things that, if they start to try to fill the void, is it the familiar that you had before, that the security blanket what you tried to release, or is it something that's new because you've already stepped into that new energy of who you are.
Speaker 2:An easy quote, unquote easy way to do that is to take one actionable step. Once you release, so say you release your job and you're out of there. Once you release, so say you release your job and you're out of there. You send one email or one phone call to someone to do a network connection for a job that you want, like something completely different. That's you telling the universe that you're taking that actionable step to fill it with something new for your new era I keep saying era because you said Taylor Swift but that new era for where you're moving into.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, perfect. So we're really excited to hear what you're letting go of this fall, what you are finally ready to release. So if you would like to share that, please share it with us on our Modern Zen Collective Instagram or Nikki and I's personal Instagram. We would love to hear what you are letting go of this fall. So, thank you so much for joining us today, and we've got a lot more good episodes coming for you to round out this year, so stick with us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stick with us, have a wonderful eclipse season, enjoy the release. Yeah, stick with us, have a wonderful eclipse season, enjoy the release and take some time for you during this 9-9 September. We're sending you lots of love. Thanks for staying until the end. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks everyone.
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