Rest as Resistance: Reclaiming the Sacred Power of Slowing Down

What if the most powerful move you make this season is to slow down? We’re challenging the myth that worth equals busyness and inviting you into a month of rituals of restoration—practical tools, soulful wisdom, and a refreshingly honest look at why choosing rest can feel so hard and how to make it finally stick.

We start by tracing the roots of hustle conditioning—from school checklists and “well-rounded” resumes to generational stories that equate stillness with laziness. Then we reframe rest as a sacred pause found across traditions, from sabbath rhythms to savasana, and unpack the neuroscience that makes restoration non-negotiable: parasympathetic repair, calmer hormones, deeper digestion, and brain states (alpha and theta) where creativity and intuition thrive. Along the way, we share real-life stories, like taking four days to unwind on vacation, and what that reveals about nervous system load.

You’ll get concrete, compassionate strategies for creating white space and keeping it: saying no with love, putting rest on the calendar, and using flexible alarms to build micro-rest into real schedules. We also show you how to make rest enjoyable—think cozy cues, short practices that actually fit, and seasonal support as we move into autumn’s natural exhale. The result isn’t less ambition; it’s cleaner focus, better decisions, and energy that lights up the rooms you walk into.

If you’re ready to trade constant output for aligned impact, press play and restore with us. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs permission to pause, and leave a review telling us your favorite micro-rest ritual—your story may inspire someone else to finally exhale.

Listener Reflection Questions:

1. Where in my life am I pushing myself to “do more,” even when my body or spirit is asking me to rest?
2. What emotions come up when I allow myself to slow down? Guilt, peace, fear, relief?
3. If I reframed rest as a source of strength, how would that shift my choices this week?
4. What does resistance through rest look like for me today?

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome And Monthly Theme
• 1:21 Choosing Rest Over Hustle
• 3:16 How Busyness Gets Trained Early
• 6:10 Generational Patterns Of Overwork
• 10:45 Avoidance, Identity, And Stillness
• 12:09 Micro-Rest In Busy Seasons
• 14:00 Vacations And The Slow Unwind
• 16:20 Rest As Sacred Pause And Wisdom
• 18:00 The Science Of Rest And Repair
• 21:04 Boundaries, White Space, And Saying No
• 24:06 Alarms, Habits, And Flexible Routines
• 27:00 Enjoying Rest And Nervous System Ease
• 29:00 Rest As Service And Ripple Effect
• 31:10 Seasonal Support And Closing Invite

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:13

Hi, I'm Lizzie. And I'm Nikki. Have you ever felt that your life was missing purpose, joy, or disconnection? Welcome to the Modern Sun Collective Podcast, where we embrace holistic living for a joyful, purpose-driven life.

SPEAKER_01: 0:29

And this podcast will explore holistic practices, positive expansion, and spiritual alignment. We will guide personal development, practices that connect mind, body, spirit, and share secrets of ancient culture of knowing a century. Together we aim to guide, educate, and track individuals eager to transform their lives.

SPEAKER_00: 0:48

Join us weekly on the Modern Zen Collective podcast and elevate your mind, body, and spirit. And now on to today's episode. An invitation to slow down, replenish, and honor the rhythms of the season. In a world that glorifies hustle, we're choosing to rest, we're choosing to reflect, and we're choosing to restore. And we're inviting you to join us. All month long, we'll explore the many ways restoration shows up, from reclaiming rest as resistance to reimagining self-care with our special guest and practitioner collective member Marnie Heinz, to navigating the sacred space of late October when the veil between worlds feels thin, and finally weaving renewal into the everyday rituals of your life. Alongside these conversations, we'll also guide you through cozy practices like meditation and yoga nitra to help you embody restoration in real time. So grab your blanket, light a candle, and join us for this month of rituals of restoration. Let's restore together. We're so excited to talk to you about rest as an act of self-love and really as a pretty radical choice these days in a hustle-driven culture. You know, everyone is running around, hustle, hustle this, hustle that, do all these things. So choosing to rest is kind of the opposite of what you're hearing in and around everything these days. I mean, Nikki, it's pretty crazy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01: 3:12

Yeah. Oh my gosh, absolutely. I feel like it starts in school. It's always about filling your time and doing everything and making sure you don't have that restful time or always in that constant state of stimuli and having that rest, just feeling as though you're missing out or feeling unproductive and that you are not doing enough. I and I feel that can really impact women too. Like we feel if we rest, we're not doing enough, and that we are, you know, bringing down the household or not doing enough for the household or for our for you know who we're serving, who we're helping, and all of these things from that aspect of the feminine, too, um, which is, you know, feminine is meant to be in flow and masculine is meant to be, you know, the drive and the push. And we all have both inside of us. And I think it's nice as a woman to remember that it is totally okay to be in the flow of feminine. It actually ignites you to relax and be at ease and rest. So that's what we're gonna talk about today, you know, talk about how we've gone through it, what we've done to change it, and just, you know, some ways uh to realize and see for yourself. Um, are you living in this way? And do you feel that you could deserve a rest? You do deserve a rest. So let's get into it. Yeah, if you could take a rest. Yeah, like take a rest, take a rest while you listen to this.

SPEAKER_00: 4:44

You know, it's so crazy, Nikki. When you were talking about how it starts when we're young, I had this flashback, and you said in school specifically, I had this flashback to high school where we're all getting pressured to fill our schedules up for the application for college. Like that's what it is. It's the college application. Like, are you well-rounded? They're always looking for well-rounded individuals. Like, did you do, did you do something creative like art or music? And did you also do sports? And were you also in a club? And were you active in your in a religious organization? And were you, did you hold a leadership role in any of these? And did you also get straight A's or some B's and mostly A's? It's like, and and and oh my gosh, it totally flashed back to me. That is totally when we're trained that busyness is a sign of success. Busyness is a sign of a well-rounded individual and someone that people want. That people, because you're trying to get people to want you to come to that college and the college of your choice. And so, wow, that just totally hit me when you said that. That it really starts then when we're getting trained to have this specific looking resume for a college to choose us to come.

SPEAKER_01: 6:10

Yes. Yeah, uh everything. I mean, even down to like being in school and being given homework for memorization. I know Lizzie and I talk about this and everything to do with school. We've talked about it before, but that and filling your time with all of this extra to do just to fill the space around. Uh, and then, you know, that relaxed time that I learned being an 80s baby that I learned was being in front of the TV and watching cartoons, or when in high school being in front of the TV and watching other things. I did other things, you know, with my friends and went outside and rode my bike and went to the mall and stuff like that, but it still wasn't rest. I was still doing things. Like it wasn't that I was just chilling and relaxing. And, you know, it could also be something from generations and generations and epigenetics of, you know, if you're just laying there not doing anything, you're not cleaning, you're not helping with the house, et cetera. And those could be those, you know, um, those ties from our family that come through too, that are really ingrained in us as well. I just had an aha moment saying that because yeah, just just laying around on the couch is not helping anybody, apparently, whenever you are in high school and you should be cleaning stuff up.

SPEAKER_00: 7:24

Oh, the stairs, the stairs by your parents. If you got for bed, laid down like that. Oh my gosh. And, you know, it's it's it really is ingrained into us by generations and generations. You know, I watch my parents, and both of my parents are in their upper 60s, like beginning to be 70, and they're all starting to get these surgeries. They're having to get surgeries and have all these different health things. And my mom is taking care of my stepdad who just had a major like spinal surgery with some with bone marrow taken from his hip, which is just even more painful. I didn't even know that was happening. And my mom is like, she's like, Oh my gosh, I finally feel like myself today. I've just been falling apart. It's been so much trying to take care of your stepdad. And, you know, we're doing a renovation, so we've had all these contractors come. I'm like, oh, poor, you know, poor me, all this stuff. And then five minutes later in the conversation, she tells me that she built her first wall the other day. And I'm like, so you're taking care of my stepdad in the biggest surgery that he's ever had, and you keep saying that it's the most important thing. You're having contractors come in and out, and then you also sheet rocked, built and sheetrocked a wall for your first time. You thought that was a good idea to do that in the middle of all this, and it is so wild because I said, Mom, I don't know if anyone else has said this to you, but as a normal human being, I'm gonna tell you that is insane. That's insane. I don't know if anyone's told you, but you do not have to build a wall while you're doing all these other things. And I think it's it's so wild because she was the C-suite, you know, executive and running little bus small businesses all the time. So, you know, when you run small businesses, you do everything and you have to touch everything. So she's always been that person, and it just shows that if you don't have awareness about how you are and you don't actively decide to change it, you will be this way forever. She's retired, but she fills her time with everything, everything and anything. And I've I've seen it with a lot of a lot of my parents who are like that and and other older people. So I know that we don't just grow out of this constant output, this need to produce, this need to be measured and valued by what we bring how we produce, what we bring to the table, and what we can constantly do for other people. That need we need to get that out of our minds, or that is going to be us until we die, because I'm watching it happen. So if we don't start to have this awareness about how society glorifies this, this productivity, this constant output, how we want to choose different for ourselves, what success looks like for us, then we're going to run ourselves into the ground. I'm I'm literally watching it right now.

SPEAKER_01: 10:34

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. It's it's wild. Um, you know, I obviously I'm not there seeing or living in a retirement world. Um, but it it almost makes you think like, do you have, you know, are you attached to something so much that it's hard to be with yourself and just relax when you don't have work as something you do every single day. I know um when my dad retired, there were a few like horror stories going around of men who retired that were my dad's age that stopped working and weren't doing anything, and they like had a heart attack and died. And my dad was like, okay, I'm not gonna do that. So he wanted to do projects around the house. He didn't like overextend himself, but he still knew he wanted to do little things to keep his brain active because that scared him, obviously. I doubt there was a connection, but that scared him. So it makes me, you know, wonder, and we've talked about this so many times before is it that avoidance of looking at like the dark parts of yourself when you are when you are resting, you're just with yourself. You're not with anybody else, you're just by yourself with your thoughts, with your energy, with how your body feels. And is it keeping the calendar stacked, keeping you away from having to meet those parts of yourself too? That could be something.

SPEAKER_00: 11:55

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's been a while. Well, I was gonna say it's been a while since I've resisted slowing down, but that's not true because I just had like a month and a half from hell. So I think at this point, you know, but I wasn't, you know, I was taking moments to slow down. And I think that's the thing. You know, we have times when we resist it and it really can hit us hard. Like we feel completely burnt out, we're laid up for a week or more because we're physically sick, we just can't f do anything at all. And then there's other times in our life where we have so much going on that we really feel like it's just one thing after another after another every single day for a while. And I feel like in that moment, slowing down to me is taking it one day at a time. And then any time I do have some space, doing a quick something to allow myself to release, even if it's just a little bit. If it's a 10-minute thing, if it's a five-minute thing, if it's a going to the bathroom, closing the door, like playing a song while I go to the bathroom by myself, like you know, I don't know. You know, it's really anything in the car. I am the one that controls everything that gets played in the car. So a lot my kids listen to podcasts, my kisses kids listen to spiritual songs, they listen to whatever I feel like listening to. So even that is like part of my rest when I feel like I have something going on constantly for a little while. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 13:34

Yeah. And like for me, a like when I think about this and I think about when I kept pushing, pushing, pushing, and and not resting, I can't pinpoint when I did it, but I just knew it was a part of my corporate life, like just the corporate life, go, go, go, everything we've talked about before. And I remember so vividly that when I would plan a vacation, I because in corporate you get two weeks or whatever it is. And when I would plan a vacation, I would have to plan a vacation for seven days because I knew it took me four days to unwind. I knew it took me four days to feel like, okay, like a like a breath of fresh air. Like, okay, like I'm here. I'm here. Like I it's hard to explain. It just my body felt like still I was in that sympathetic and like fired and wired and just moving fast. And I think, you know, you get the energy of where wherever you are, whether it's a resort or you know, you're staying local, and then the culture and the vibe and the energy there, and how it's slower that hearts helps to impact you in a better in a positive way. But it literally would take me that long to feel relaxed on vacation. It took me.

SPEAKER_00: 14:45

That's crazy. That's crazy that it took you over half of a week in order to just slow down like that because it's just so hardwired in you day in, day out, day in, day out. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So I'd love for you guys to just take a moment and think about how it shows up for you in your life. You know, how does this constant output, this need to produce, this constant need to feel like your calendar is full, is busy, how does that show up for you? Because it shows up for each of us differently at different times in our lives.

SPEAKER_01: 15:17

Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. How does it show up for you? And giving yourself time to pause and seeing how it feels differently in your body. You know, for me, I didn't realize I was living in that state until I removed myself from it. So doing that as well might be a good test to see how you're feeling. Um, something with, you know, rest as a radical act, the spiritual wisdom behind rest is it's everywhere, right? Like you can look at, like on the seventh day rest, like Sunday we rest, things are closed on Sunday. And even if you you practice yoga or you're a yoga teacher, we have Shavasana at the end of the class meant to integrate and rest your body and have that mental clarity after everything you just did. So if you look at kind of the ratio for either a yoga class or, you know, the one day a week, seventh day, whatever it is, like just look at that. It's been all over telling us there's so many texts and so many civilizations, and there's so many ways that we've been told that rest is so, so important to really relax, reset. We can't just like we've talked about this before. Music is music because of the space between the notes. If it was all the same, like you wouldn't hear what actually is playing. And having that time to integrate what you've been working on, just be with yourself, reset your nervous system, everything that goes along with it, and get that mental clarity for downloads a lot from the manifestation. We're in that challenge right now, but a lot in terms of manifestation and intuition and pings and intuitive hits, those come from when you are relaxed and when you're in a state of not thinking about a million things. So that's why people get ideas in the shower or, you know, driving, etc., because you're in a more relaxed state. So the rest as a sacred pause is something that not only benefits you from you and your soul, it benefits the collective because you are helping to reset the energy of the collective so that it is more of this rest and digest and ease and flow, everything we're moving to as we move into the age of Aquarius, the 3D to 5D, everything from there. And it's something that really from that spiritual soul-center place to even get in touch with your soul and listen to your soul's wisdom, your guide's wisdom, whoever you connect with during that time of just being, of just relaxing and knowing that it's not a luxury, it's a necessity to do so.

SPEAKER_00: 17:58

Absolutely. You know, a lot of us think of rest as doing nothing, but the truth is that when we allow ourselves to rest, our bodies are actually doing some of their most important work. And that's why sleep is so important too. When we rest, our parasympathetic nervous system, which is that rest and digest side, takes over, which is that natural counterbalance to the fight or flight or the sympathetic nervous system. So instead of us being on high alert and just ready for an attack, it signals to our body that we're safe, we can rest, our body can start to heal itself, to restore from the inside out. And so our body will actually allow our heart rate and blood pressure to drop, our breathing will slowly move slower and deepen. Our muscles will begin to release tension, so our blood flow will shift away from those muscles, the things that we need to be able to run away really quick, into those things like digestion, healing, and the immune support that rest and digest side. Our stress hormones decrease, our digestion gets a boost, our nutrients are absorbed more efficiently. So our body can really finally focus on breaking down and rebuilding. And just like Nikki said, our brains, the activity shifts into these slower wave states, into the alpha and theta, which support our creativity, reflection, and our deeper awareness, which is exactly what Nikki was talking about. We are finally in that state where we can receive those pings, where we can connect, where we can work on that sympathetic, that subconscious side, excuse me, not the sympathetic, the subconscious side of our brain. So rest really isn't passive at all. It's really, really, really important to ourselves. So we really need to work on giving ourselves permission to rest. Our bodies need to repair, they need to rebalance, they need to renew. Because if we show up depleted, we're not able to give our best selves to anything that we're doing, whether that's work, whether that's family, whether that's socializing, having fun. We want to show back up in life, you know, with energy, with clarity and resilience. So it's really, really important to have this rest. And I just, we wanted to talk to you about some of the science behind it so that you really understand in that logical part of your brain, it's not just something that sounds nice. It's something that your body needs, that you need to work on that high optimal level.

SPEAKER_01: 20:28

Yes, the that listening to that part of it and just hearing what our body actually does when we rest, like, how beautiful is that? Like, so much goes on while we're resting. So we're actually doing things, but we get to rest and just be and be in our own energy and integrate and you know, get those creative hits, that intuition, everything that comes with it, which is beautiful. And you might find as you're going through and you know, finding ways to rest that you might have to say no to some things, which is totally understandable, having those boundaries and saying no. And that's part of the process, being able to have your framework for what rest looks like for you, like having your framework of no, this is my time for me, etc. And, you know, knowing that you can have some flexibility and but still honor and preserve your rest. If you push it out, don't forget about it. If you know you love resting at after work at 6 p.m. and something happens or you're helping a friend or a family member or something, don't forget that you did that or you you pushed it off. Remember that you want to go back and get it. So say no with love also if you want to have those boundaries. So if your friend does ask you to do something and and you kind of feel bad because your 6 p.m. time is your rest time. It's not like you're you think you're doing anything that you can be disrupted, but you know, for you, for your nervous system, for you and your energy, that this is what will make you a better mom tomorrow, will make you a better person this week, will make you feel better in your own skin, etc. You can say no, but I can help you at 4 p.m. tomorrow. I can help you over the weekend or whatever it is. Because, you know, oftentimes people are asking us something based on their schedule and giving one option. There's many, many other options that can work for you both of you together. So saying no with love is a great, great way to start to learn how to really give yourself self-love and prioritize your rest. Um, you know, having that white space in your schedule, it's not for nothing. It's to have that time where you have chunks of time where you might not do anything and just be and be with you.

SPEAKER_00: 22:42

Well, and I think, you know, that's key what you just said, like the white space in your schedule. And I think part of, you know, that whole piece of in your schedule, because I think another piece of how to say no with love is saying, I'm so sorry I have something that's already on my calendar at that time. And like you said, Nikki, you know, you can offer another time, but using your calendar as your excuse because when you really have rest, and I know as a mom, even before that, when I had a when I had a lot of things that I was involved in, putting it in your calendar, your rest time in your calendar and making that as a meeting with yourself, something that you're doing with yourself, that white space in your schedule, like making sure that it's a date, like it's something that is happening. And so that way when you say no to, you can, oh, I'm sorry, I already have something that's scheduled at that time, but I can help you at this time, or I'm so sorry, I'm really busy this week, or I have a lot of things going on this week, or you know, it's not, it's not, I I know everyone says no is a complete sentence, but when you're saying no with love, you don't want to just say no. You know, you want to say give a little something else, cushion it a little bit. But I think cushion it a little bit. Yeah, cushion it a little bit. But I do think it is really important, like Nikki said, create that white space and put it in your schedule so that you're able to take maybe naps, some naps. Some people love a good 20-minute nap, some people need 45 minutes, maybe need an hour and a half. But if you can schedule it, what's to say you couldn't have an hour and a half nap once or twice a week, you know, or maybe it's five minutes of mindfulness at a certain time of day. Put it in your phone as an alarm. Take some mindful pauses throughout your day at work. It's okay to take a break for five minutes. It's okay, you know, to go to the bathroom and then maybe step outside for five minutes or go sit in your car for five minutes or new smoking break. Yes. I mean, yeah. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Yes. So I think, you know, for those of us who have a lot of stuff and we're constantly moving from one thing to the next, put alarms on your phone. And I know that first week, it's not gonna work. Like it doesn't work the first week because you're thinking about times you want to do it, and they're not really the actual times that work for you with the way you flow through your day. So if you start to notice, you know, you put these alarms on every day for the first week and you start to notice that it comes like five minutes too early. You're like, oh, I can't do it right now. I need to do it in like five minutes, or it would be better 30 minutes from now, or I wish this would have gone off before my meeting started an hour ago, or something like then start to play with the alarm times and things on your phone. So I know it's not gonna work right off the bat. Don't get frustrated with yourself because you can't do it at the time it's saying. It's just the time that you thought was gonna work isn't the time that actually works with your current routine. So allow it to fluctuate and then try again. But I do think it is really important for us to create these external things that trigger us to pause, become aware that we do want to do something different and then make that choice. Either it's time to take that mindfulness, create that space, take that nap, do that thing, or I'm choosing at this moment that I am not going to do that. And either I'm going to come back to it later, or I'm recognizing it's not the right time, or I'm saying it doesn't matter to me that day. And so it is okay if this doesn't matter to you sometimes. The thing is, is that Nikki and I are are trying to get you to do this more often. Start to do it. It starts to begin something you do. And when you find the times that work for you, the things that work for you, the things that you like, that's when you start to naturally want to do it more and you do do it more. So we know this isn't going to be an everyday thing right away. That's why we want you to create these things in your schedule or put them in your phone or something. So that way you are being reminded that you wanted to do this. And so now you are consciously being paused and asked if you want to choose to do it in that moment.

SPEAKER_01: 26:59

Yes, yeah. And reframing that we talked about in the beginning, like Lizzie was saying, like reframing guilt. Um, there's no guilt around it. It's it's all about helping yourself and taking care of yourself and feeling empowered that you're doing this and then inspiring other people to do it too. When you carve out this time for yourself and and test it out, like Lizzie was saying, test it out and see what works for you for this rest and see if you feel that subtle difference in your nervous system, in your body, in your energy when you start to do this and prioritize rest. And prioritize rest in a way where you feel you really, really enjoy it. It might take some time, especially if you're, you know, from that corporate world we were from and you are firing and wiring all the time. Uh, but getting to a place where you enjoy the rest. Like right now, I hear the birds outside of Lizzie where she's at, and just taking time to, you know, have one of your favorite drinks, like a nice, I would think, I'm thinking of like a nice like lime aid or something like that, sitting out on the porch, listening to the birds, closing my eyes, and just enjoying that, just enjoying and being and get to a place where you can enjoy the rest. It's not just something to tick off of the box because that starts to get back into the sympathetic nervous system. It's something you truly, truly enjoy doing. Um, and you can really honor it in in so many ways and inspire others to do the same.

SPEAKER_00: 28:33

Yeah, because really when you show up with your cup filled, which is what we're asking you to do, take a pause, rest, fill your cup, make sure that you're good. When you show up like that to other places, in other spaces, with other people, with your family, at work, in the organizations you're at, at school, wherever you show up, you show up as the best version of yourselves. And then you're truly able to give your time, your energy, your attention, all of the great things about you, your skills, your personality, your smile, everything just naturally is able to come out and come off. And everyone notices, everyone knows that you're just lit up and you're there lighting everything else up. So other people want to be lit up themselves. So, really, doing this for you is about showing up and also creating that ripple effect where you're able to give and be your best for others. So they're getting your best work, your best attention, your best energy, your best love. They're getting your best. So you're it really isn't about feeling guilty about this rest, it's about knowing that when you rest, you become more powerful, you become more powerful as a human being, and everyone else can feel it. Can feel it. Just see. Try doing this a few times. Like really making sure you feel rested before you show up at something where you really want to shine. And I promise you will. And people will notice and people will say something about it. So just take a moment. Take a moment to really allow that to hit you. Like rest is power. Rest gives you power.

SPEAKER_01: 30:24

Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Mike drop everything you said. Amazing. It's just it's so true. So true on all levels. And we we really wanna, Lizzie and I really want to just encourage you to do this. Just the difference that you're going to feel in your body. And what a beautiful time to do it right now with the equinox moving into the fall season, which is all about rest and digest on its own. You're supported by the elements, you're supported by the earth, all of it. So we we thank you so much for staying with us and listening to the end of this episode. And we are so happy to hear that you are gonna go ahead and go rest. Maybe today.

SPEAKER_00: 31:06

Yes, yes, go rest. And just notice this week, you know, where you might resist, resist the urge to push through and rest. And rest. Like Nikki said. So thanks, guys. We'll see you on the next one. Come back this October because we're talking all about rest and rituals, and we have a lot of great stuff for you. So come on back for the rest of the episodes this month. Thank you so much for spending time with us on the Modern Zen Collective Podcast. This podcast is at the heart of everything that we do, created to guide, inspire, and walk alongside you on your journey. If you're ready for more, explore our Practitioner Collective, a trusted resource of experts in healing and wellness to help you deepen your practice for fast track transformation. And be sure to join our email community to get first access to new offerings, challenges, and you'll find all the links in the show notes. And until next time, keep trusting your pants and honoring