45: When a Divorce Can Actually Add More Happiness and Vitality in Midlife with Meagan Norris

How Midlife Women Can Stop People Pleasing, Set Healthy Boundaries and  Live With Intention ...Writing Their Own Recipe For A Life That Feeds Their Soul.

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What if midlife isn’t a crisis but a green light to design a life you actually want? We sit down with divorce coach Meagan Norris to unpack the moment she chose to break a family pattern, how she walked through the void, and why ending a marriage can be a completion rather than a failure. This is a story of agency, nervous system care, and writing a better future with clarity and compassion.

We start with the power of curation—removing inputs that trigger fear and surrounding yourself with voices that steady your mind. Megan explains how cleaning up her feed and limiting real-life advice lowered reactivity, making space for smart, values-aligned decisions. From there, we dig into desire and permission. Many women know how to care for everyone else but struggle to name what they want. Through relational witnessing—having a grounded person reflect your wants without judgment—you learn to trust yourself again and model healthy boundaries at home.

We also redefine divorce through a practical and hopeful lens. Emotional resilience drives the legal process, not the other way around. We talk micro-divorce moments, the taboo of saying the word out loud until it loses its sting, and how to give equal airtime to the best-case scenario. Meagan shares three pillars for anyone at the edge of big change: process your emotions so they don’t run the show, make choices through your long-term vision, and build financial sovereignty by improving your relationship with money—earning it, holding it, and managing it with calm.

If you’re standing in the ash of the old life and can’t see what’s next, consider this your hand on the shoulder: let what needs to burn, burn. Regulate your body, edit your inputs, and take the next best step. Ready to keep rewriting the story of midlife with purpose and joy? Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review to help more people find the show.

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Transcript

Welcome And Midlife Reframe

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Welcome to this episode of Life is Delicious. Do you ever feel like midlife has you running on an endless hamster wheel of responsibilities while your own dreams just gather dust? Is the crazy chaos of caring for everyone else leaving you exhausted and overwhelmed? And is the hormonal hurricane of menopause threatening to derail your sanity? Are you in desperate need of some self-care, balance, and reconnection with your truest self? If so, then I'm so glad you're here. This podcast isn't about surviving midlife, it's about crafting a next chapter overflowing with purpose, joy, and delicious possibilities. I'm Marnie Martin, a multi-passionate entrepreneur, daughter, and a hot midlife mama. Literally. And over the last decade, I've been through career pivots, a divorce, and a survived the empty nest only to have it fill up again. I spent the next several years traveling miles and miles every month to care for my elderly parents. And my time and attention was so torn in every direction that I lost track of who I was, and I found myself in an endless cycle of people pleasing, putting out fires, and frankly, running on empty. I know how it feels to be stuck in chronic overwhelm, stress, and chaos. And trust me, it's not a pretty picture. I decided that it was time to take my own life and health back. I worked hard to reclaim my health through radical self-care practices, recalibrating my nervous system, and setting healthy boundaries that allowed me to start living my life on purpose again. I'm here to show you that midlife doesn't have to be a crisis, but instead a beautiful invitation to prioritize yourself again. If you're ready to take back your joie de vivre, then pop in those earbuds and let's go get it.

Meet Megan And Why She Left

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Welcome, Megan, to the Life is Delicious podcast. I'm so excited to have you here today. I really feel like your story will resonate with so many of my listeners.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to talk about divorce and hopefully help some of your listeners.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Yeah, it's uh unfortunately, you know, not every well, I should say fortunately, not everyone has to go through it, but there's a a good majority of the population that does. So let's go back to the beginning of your journey and tell us a little bit about your story and what led you to doing the work you're doing today.

The Flash-Forward That Changed Everything

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Sure. Well, I was, see, it was the summer of 2021, and I um had been sort of in this place of indecision about leaving my marriage for a long time. And I was on a call with a mentor, and she said, Hey, Megan, there are consequences no matter what you decide. And in that instant, I realized I had this flash forward in my mind to I have two, I have three kids, two boys and a little girl. And I had a flash forward to my daughter's wedding and I could see her getting married, and I thought, oh no, I'll get to that moment. And if I haven't done everything within my power to break a cycle, then I won't be able to live with that. But if I do something now about this and I honor what I think I know I need and want, and I get to that point, then I'll know I've done everything in my power to change the story for my lineage. And for some reason, that moment clicked for me. And I had the conversation with my now ex that I, you know, wanted a divorce. And I spent an hour with my therapist at the time planning the year of hell that I was about to go through. And she had me make a list of things I was gonna do for self-care. And I thought, okay, I'm gonna, I'm an A plus student, I'm gonna, I'm gonna nail this, I'm gonna be the best divorce student on the planet. And I took all these notes, and after the call, I was sitting in my chair. I was already a certified life coach at the time. So I had some tools, uh, enough tools, and I had done enough of my own, you know, personal development work to kind of sit back and I had this moment where I thought, wait a minute, what if this didn't have to be my story? What if what everyone's telling me about divorce doesn't have to be true?

Writing A New Divorce Story

SPEAKER_00 4:24

And so I went, I walked through my divorce, not realizing at the time that I was kind of creating this framework that I now teach my clients. And it wasn't until about three months after my divorce was over when I was working with a coach to help me build my business that she stopped me mid-story and said, Whoa, why aren't you helping women do this? This is an amazing story. And I woke up the next morning and posted my first post on Instagram as a divorce coach.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Ah, good for you. That's amazing. And you know, that happens so often on the show, and the people that I get to speak with and get to interview is that our mess becomes our message. And so often those really hard moments that we go through in our life become the backbone of what we are meant to use as a tool to serve.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

Mm-hmm. 100%. And I I think it makes a huge difference. I know, you know, when I work with a mentor or a coach or a therapist, if if she hasn't been through something similar to me, or at least, you know, some intense adversity in her life, then it's it's not as it's not the same. And I I think that one of the reasons I'm able to do the powerful work that I can is because I understand exactly what it feels like to be in this moment.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Yeah. And that's super powerful. And you know what I think is so wonderful about the approach that you took. Obviously, you like you say, you had some tools in your tool belt. But so often, like, and it doesn't matter whether you're going through a divorce or life transition or whatever you're dealing with, it's the story we tell ourselves about what that is gonna mean and how

Curating Inputs And Setting Boundaries

SPEAKER_01 6:04

we step into that. And do we have to believe that old story or the story that everybody else has lived? We don't have to do that. So I think it's really powerful that you said, Hey, wait a minute, I'm gonna approach this with curiosity and see can I do this differently and not have a complete year of hell?

SPEAKER_00 6:20

Yes, I really like if if anybody takes anything away from this episode, it's that what people are usually talking about, no matter what your adversity is, maybe it's an illness or a death or maybe it's a divorce, but statistics and what people are usually talking about is a ref our reflection of the past. They're almost never talking about the infinite possibility available to us in the future when we're creating our or really really rebuilding our lives from nothing, or not nothing, but every corner of our lives, so to speak, is being touched by the adversity of divorce. Okay, if you have to choose everything in your life again, do you really want to choose the story someone gives you that it has to be worse or harder, or that it's a setback, or that it's a failure, or do you want to write a different story?

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Yeah. I think that's a super powerful way of looking at things. And and we all have the capacity to do that, but we don't always know that in the midst of being in the mud or the, you know, the hard part. So what do you think was the most powerful thing you did first to step into this new version of yourself?

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Oh, I edited my um during my divorce, I edited my social media feed to things that only left me feeling better. So I didn't need to understand why and I didn't need to undergo, I didn't need to do a deep dive into like what why I was triggered by something. But if there was divorce content or um, you know, really triggering news, then I would block it in my social media feed. And I also did that with the people in my life. So everyone has an opinion when you're getting divorced, everyone's triggered, everyone's afraid, right? Every your parents are worried, your friends and family are worried, your your kids are upset, your ex is, you know, usually upset. And everybody has an opinion on what you should do and how it should go. And I really, because I couldn't find the resources that I needed and wanted, I shut out uh all the extra noise and went inward and worked with my mentor at the time only and cleaned up what I was consuming. So most of the time people come to the decision to get a divorce, having obsessively read books, listened to every podcast they can get their hands on. Um, they're following a lot of divorce coaches and lawyers on social media. And I really encourage people to edit those things down unless it leaves you feeling better or gives you um a strategy that feels uh empowering to you, then it's not for you. It's not helping.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Yeah, and that's so important. I think that that is the best strategy, and

Control, Chaos, And The Nervous System

SPEAKER_01 9:20

I am a huge proponent of tuning out the noise. And the hard part with the divorce is that it's not just you going through it, it's your in-laws and it's your, you know, siblings that are attached, and there's just so much untethered stuff that goes along with it, so you're afraid to disappoint people, and you're always trying to navigate everybody else's emotions. But what I hear you saying is that you said, I will be respectful of their emotions, but I have to take care of my emotions first because it's the only way I can move forward.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

Yes. I mean, that's what's so hard about this season of life when you go through it, if someone goes through it, is that most women are accustomed to sort of orchestrating life, right? We're very efficient, we're very capable, we're very good at seeing a problem and finding a solution and fixing it, right? And changing it. And we tend to be very proactive. And then when you enter this divorce process, all of a sudden there are so many things you can't control. You might see the most efficient way from point A to point B, but your ex might disagree with you. Maybe your in-laws are mad at you, maybe you're being misunderstood. And all of a sudden, all of those old uh strategies, success strategies and coping mechanisms don't work anymore. And so we're left with this really intense emotional experience. And we don't know how to manage our nervous system when so many things are out of our control. And it's this process of learning to relate to your own nervous system and use your emotions as fuel to support yourself and to create a new identity, so to speak, that really helps you move through the process because otherwise you are just going to feel desperate and be reactive the whole time because you you're realizing, oh my gosh, I can't, I actually, no matter how hard I try, I cannot force someone to understand me or to make this happen faster.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Yeah, it's a process for sure. And and the patience piece is a big piece of it. And there's a lot of things to unpack in the course of that situation. I've been divorced twice, so I have reverence for that. And my kids are. Oh, so you know. I know. I totally know. I've been there and uh it's it's really um I remember when I was going through it that there came a moment where I mean, after my was my first husband and my kids were little, and I remember thinking to myself, I have no idea what I want or what what I even like to do anymore because I was so used to just taking care of everybody else. And so I had to have that moment too, where sitting quietly with myself going, This is so uncomfortable, but

Permission, Desire, And Relational Witnessing

SPEAKER_01 12:10

I know I need to do it until it the feeling passes so that I can get to the other side of this really d uncomfortable moment. And yeah, it's definitely a process. So I I really appreciate your story so much more from that perspective too.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Yes. I mean, I was I remember I was working with a life coach at that in like 2019, and she asked me, Well, what what do you want? And it was the first time anyone in my whole life had ever asked me that, and it stumped me. I uh and I thought, what do I want? What does that have to do with anything? And then I realized, oh, wait a minute, it has everything to do with everything, but it was the first time I had this conscious awareness that I could want something and that maybe it really mattered.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

And you got permission, which you don't need permission, but you felt somebody saying to you, you can have that for yourself. That matters, and what you want is everything.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Yes. And I find that the the I call it relational witnessing that happens either within a supportive group or with when I'm mentoring somebody, we we're kind of preached to around like, well, you don't need permission. You just get to want what you want and do what you want to do and and trust yourself. But it really helps. I don't know if it's the way our you know women's brains are wired or our nervous system, but it really helps to have somebody reflect back to you what you want and then to say, hey, you know it's okay. It's okay to be struggling, it's okay to hate this, it's okay to not to be unsure. It's okay to want what you want. And it just, I find it helps collapse time and moves the process of the emotional divorce along much faster because the emotional divorce and the legal divorce are just two completely separate things.

People-Pleasing, Values, And Modeling Self-Care

SPEAKER_00 14:08

And we get confused and we think one solves the other, and it's just not true. They're separate and we need support in both.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

And I think for it's a generalization for sure, but I do know from my own scope and from all the things that I've read. The majority of women, especially in our age demographic, have been kind of grew up as a good girl and a people pleaser and all of those things. And so really we're hardwired to make sure everybody else's needs are taken care of first, and then once that happens, we can maybe, you know, have a hot bath or you know, and and it's like that is so backwards. And it it took me years to unravel the good girl people pleaser in me. And I always say I'm still a recovering people pleaser, but it's it's a huge part of getting back to your own inner compass and being able to hear that voice inside you that knows better.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Yes, and to be able to trust it. I find that, I mean, this certainly was true for me. I I really questioned, wait a minute, if I just give myself permission to live how I want to live and do what I want, what will that mean? And and I find that women are afraid of their own desire because they think when what we've been conditioned to believe that is that if you just do what you want, you're gonna be kind of lazy or slovenly, or you'll be a bad mom, or you'll just eat junk food. You're gonna be selfish, right? That's a big trigger, shameful. And what is so profound, and I I just I love giving this message to other women, is that I've never, I've talked to hundreds, maybe thousands of women. I've never met one who didn't want to do the best she could do, who didn't want to make choices in alignment with her integrity and her values. Like generally speaking, unless there's some like serious mental health issues, what we want is actually for everyone to be okay. And we don't want to do something for ourselves that's going to be at some great expense to other people. But we've confused it so much that we think saying, make your own lunch for tomorrow, I'm gonna go take a hot bath is a problem when really it's setting this beautiful example for our kids and for other people that we can take care of ourselves because we're worthy of that and we need it.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah, and we have to teach people how to treat us too. And so when we're able to have those conversations, it allows your kids specifically to see, oh, wait a minute, mom matters too, and her needs matter. And I'm capable of doing this. I can let my mom do it because she'll do it, but you know, it also gives them agency of their own life too.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yes. Oh my gosh. Plus, it models to them what it looks like to take care of yourself. I I for a long time I wanted to just do everything for my kids and tell them to take care of themselves. But what I was showing them was taking care of them at my own expense. And so I have flipped

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SPEAKER_00 17:20

that on its head since my divorce and really let them see me doing both, right? Like helping them when I have the resources and stepping in and supporting them, but also saying no to things and letting them handle some things when I, when my buckets full or empty or I need, you know, a break or whatever. And so I feel much more confident about the what they're seeing and hearing now.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

That's fantastic. I love that so much. And it's such an interesting journey being a single mom with your kids and what a crazy different bond that it creates. It's a different bond. And I don't know how to explain it, but it's just something a little bit deeper. I think you could probably agree with that. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

I yes, I um let's see, can we articulate it? I think because I've let my kids like I don't let them know adult things that are inappropriate for them, but I do let them in on like what's going on behind the scenes sometimes. Like if I have to work, um uh let's say like right now I'm I'm recording this podcast with you and at 7 p.m. And my 11-year-old daughter is like, oh mom, I'm like, yeah, but remember, we're making a million dollars. And she's like, oh yeah. And I was like, you're helping me. And she's like, oh yeah. And they get in, they like get in on it. And it's so, it's such a beautiful um deepening of our connection that we didn't have before.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Yeah, and it's a co-creation, right? You you kind of bring them in in a different

Divorce As Completion, Not Failure

SPEAKER_01 18:52

way, and you're like, let's co-create this great life together and figure out what that looks like for us. And that's a beautiful gift for them and uh an unexpected bonus of having gone through a really hard experience with divorce.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Yes, especially because obviously it's it's usually hard for kids, right? They don't understand what's going on. You've, you know, maybe you've never done it before. And so you're not sure how to talk to them. You're learning as you go, things are really messy. And I know for me, I don't know how you felt, but for me, I did kind of feel like I was holding my breath for a minute afterwards to see, are we gonna be okay? Is everyone gonna be okay? And then I slowly started to get evidence. Like for a long time, I was just, I'm like, I'm going on 100% faith and belief here. I don't know what's gonna play out, but I'm gonna trust that we'll handle it. And then, oh, as time goes by, I'm starting to see these beautiful seeds sprouting of not just, oh, they're okay, but they're actually thriving and they're turning into these beautiful. Humans and it's so rewarding.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

I totally agree with that too because I I think that whole holding your breath like just because you don't know, and then there comes that moment after you've, you know, done the work and you've been, you know, trudging along, kind of g trying to get through it, and then it's like, oh, I can exhale for a minute and it's okay, and everybody is okay, and it doesn't feel like the sky is falling anymore. But it's so much about just not catastrophizing everything because not everything is completely chaos, but it feels that way inside.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Yeah, it is emotional chaos. Like everything on the outside is usually pretty calm, right? Nothing acute is usually happening, but there's this emotional chaos because there's so much change, and our cultural narrative around divorce is terrible and depressing. And nobody is telling us, oh, wait a minute,

Normalizing Divorce And Micro-Moments

SPEAKER_00 21:05

this emotional chaos is actually a good sign because what's happening is you're shedding all the parts of you that you, all the armor you put on to sort of survive something while it was deteriorating. And now you're having to shed those. And it's sort of this process of becoming a butterfly. You go into the cocoon, you get all mushy, and you will come out a butterfly, but you really have to separate what you feel as the emotional chaos from the circumstances which are not chaos. You've got it and you will figure it out. It's okay that you feel chaotic right now. Let's unpack it and see what's going on. I can almost always find a point of relief when I'm talking to somebody. There's a thought error happening. There's a um a misfiring of how she's relating to her nervous system. I can almost always alleviate some of the chaos and the pressure that we feel. Um, but it's really hard to do that from within the brain that's creating the chaos. You really need somebody's outside perspective and nervous system to help you co-regulate and be like, hey, it's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

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The Void: Let It Burn

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SPEAKER_00 24:37

Yes. I mean, I felt like I was going to die if I stayed there, and I I that was gonna be the failure that I was so that I became so terrified of. So I I divorce is never a failure. It's not something that's broken. I hate that narrative. I get so much hate on Instagram when I post that because it finds the the ugly

Best-Case Thinking And Everyday Trust

SPEAKER_00 25:00

side of Instagram. It makes people so mad. But I'm like, why who is this helping to call it a failure? Because everyone I've talked to has gone to great lengths to make sure this is what they want. And it sounds more like the completion of a relationship or a soul contract, however you want to look at it, than it does somebody's failure.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

I agree a hundred percent. Yeah, I I definitely agree with that. And I that's why I'm glad we're talking about that because I think you know, there's so much shame when you just feel like I tried and I couldn't make it work, and but a lot of times it's not so much about w what you d do or can do. It's that there's no um there's no congruency anymore. You're just in different places and you want different things, or or there's infidelities or whatever is happening. But even in those circumstances, choosing what you know to be true for your greater good is uh anything but a failure as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Right. It's actually for the benefit of everybody in the family. Yeah. Because your kids win when you're happy. Exactly. Your kids need to see you thriving to be able to know how to thrive. And um, oh, I was gonna tell you a funny story when I was when I first started, when we first started the divorce process, I would walk around my house say when I was alone saying the word divorce out loud because I had such, it was so, it felt so toxic on my tongue. Like I had a hard time saying the word. And I was like, oh my gosh, I just need to normalize this. So I would walk around saying, I'm getting divorced. I am divorced, I'm getting divorced, divorce, divorce over and over again to sort of like exposure therapy, my brain and nervous system into being familiar with that word because it had been, I've been so afraid of it for so long.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Taboo, so taboo.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Yes, yes. And then as you get divorced, there's these I

Three Pillars: Emotions, Vision, Money

SPEAKER_00 27:00

call them micro-divorce moments where for the first time you're in a doctor's office and you have to check the box that says divorced, which why is that even a category? I don't understand. There's singles and then there's divorce. I'm like, this is dumb. But you need to know that's a little bit of the box. Right. I'm like, this is so fascinating. You feel a little ping of pain, and you're like, okay, I made it through that one. And then there'll be another one and another one, and pretty soon you'll forget that it's a big deal to some people. And you know, I'll be walking, I'll be at like a school function and be like, oh, I'm divorced, and it'll I can see the discomfort on the other person. And I'm like, oh, right, right, right. Not everybody can just roll it with that.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Uh-huh.

unknown 27:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Exactly. Oh my goodness. No, I totally I think I think it's this is such a great conversation. I think it's really an important one because I know there's a lot of people, and midlife tends to bring that, you know, to where we get to a a place where we, you know, maybe are just done settling, or maybe, you know, we see a bigger vision for our life, and maybe we just can't get there from here, you know. And so there's a lot, and it's not just divorce. It could be, you know, changing a job or career, or you know, there's so much transition and so much of us growing into a better version of ourselves that's maybe a little less afraid to ask for what we want. And so I think, you know, when we're looking at all my listeners and whatever major life transitions they're going through, what would you say to somebody who feels like their life is just completely falling apart and they just don't see the possibility yet on the other side?

SPEAKER_00 28:35

I mean, I call this the void. I would say let it burn, let it fall apart. I promise you, you're not going to be in the dark forever. You will see the light, you will get clarity. It just you're not always in charge of the timing of it. But I always say that today's discomfort is an investment in your future. And your future self will thank you for being willing to feel like your face is melting off right now so that she can be living her best life. It's it's the cost of entry sometimes. It's the investment that we have to make in a life so good it doesn't make sense. And if that's the payoff I'm getting on the other side of discomfort, then I'm leaning into it every time. I don't want to run from it. I don't want to delay it. I don't want to avoid it. I say bring it. Let's do it. I want to get to the other side of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

And it's that whole like you can't go over it, you can't go under it, you just gotta go through it.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Yes. I was just talking about that. Yeah, on social media. I was like, look, I remember standing at the starting line of this process thinking I'd give anything to be to the other side of it already. And there's literally no way but through. So we might as well just go.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Yeah. And the curiosity is such a big piece because I think so often one of the things that our brains do is we just assume, and assumption is such an evil thing because we just assume we know what other people are thinking about us or maybe they are, you know, judging us or whatever. And a lot of times that's just so not true. And yet we create this great big story in our brain that just doesn't serve us. And so I think we have to be able to just be curious and go, I don't know what tomorrow's gonna bring, but I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna be open to

Where To Find Megan And Closing

SPEAKER_01 30:20

it being a good day.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, remember, like we're always worried about the worst case scenario, but let's give equal airtime to the best case scenario because I've seen some miracles happen. I have had things happen to me, to my clients that just shouldn't be possible, and yet here they are unfolding. And that I always hold space for, no matter how much anxiety I have, for the possibility that this could all work out tomorrow in a very surprising way that I can't possibly even imagine right now.

SPEAKER_01 30:52

Yeah, and I love that. I think that's I live my life that way too, and I I try to. And I think as we get more accustomed to listening to that inner voice and trusting ourselves, it becomes easier over time. But you know, like you say, every day is is a new day to, you know, kind of get that trust built for us.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Yes, yeah. The only way to get that trust built back or maybe for the first time is through action and failure. Like you you sort of like mess your way up there, but you'll st you'll see that oh, I can handle the failures and I might fail a hundred times and succeed twice, but the successes change my life.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Yeah, and and create a totally different version of who you are becoming. Yes. Yes. So maybe just uh give us maybe three of your top uh things that you would advise if somebody's like standing at the precipice of going through this hard thing. What three pieces of advice could you offer them to bring them comfort and help them to step forward with a more positive approach?

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Okay, number one, I want you to work on your emotional resilience and how you're processing negative emotion. So um, the emotional divorce piece is what drives the legal process. And if you're not working on that, if you're just stuffing everything down and willpowering your way through, it's just going to be harder and take longer and cost more money. So you need to figure out a way to work on your emotional resilience and processing your feelings. Um, number two, your decision-making process needs to include your vision. So if you're wondering what to do today, you're like, oh, I'm not sure what to do here. Then I want you to filter it through the lens of your vision and what you want most, not through the past, not through your anger, not through your hurt. I want you to think about what decision moves me closer to being the person I want to be, to having the life that I want. And then number three, you have to have financial sovereignty, is what I call it. You've got to work on your relationship to money. I've worked with women who have millions and millions of dollars, who have so much scarcity, they're paralyzed. And I've worked with women who are starting with almost nothing, who embrace abundance and feel like they've got nothing to lose and like go put it all out on the field. It doesn't matter how much money you have, chances are you need to look at your relationship to earning money, holding money, using money, and receiving money. And managing money, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:31

And especially when you're on your own, right? And I just actually did a podcast on that. And it's fascinating how many women don't have the financial literacy to take them into this next phase. So that's a another whole, you know, um, chapter of leaving a marriage, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:51

For sure. I think it it need it absolutely needs to be because that if they don't have the literacy, and then also they're afraid and ashamed that they don't have the literacy. So then they're sort of like figuring it out on their own with the shame, and it just it's it's so much worse. Don't do that. You're not alone. Everybody has stuff to work on in terms of their relationship to money. Just get it out there, get the support you need, read a book, listen to a podcast, whatever you need to do, but don't ignore it because that's gonna cost you money and peace. Peace and the peace is a huge piece of that.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Yes. It's it's it's the money. It is the money. Yes. That's what we're trying to create is peace. Well, I have really enjoyed this conversation. I think we could go we could speak so much more, but maybe we'll do this again sometime because I'm sure there's so much more that we could unpack. But before we go, I just want to say where can people find you and how can they connect with you if they would like to work with you?

SPEAKER_00 34:53

You can uh go to my website, megannorris.com, or find me on Instagram, Megan Norris Coaching is my handle. And I have um a subscription-based offer. I have some courses and um a mentorship. So you can find everybody can find something for themselves there.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

That's perfect. And we'll make sure we include all of that in the show notes as well.

unknown 35:14

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

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