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Coffee Complexity: A Deeper Understanding w/ A.I.

Oaks, the coffee guy Season 1 Episode 144

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In this episode, I dive deep into the fascinating world of coffee complexity, exploring what it truly means beyond just identifying different flavor notes. Through an engaging conversation with AI, I explore how complexity in coffee isn't just about the initial taste, but rather the entire journey from the first sip to the last. I share my experiences with different brewing temperatures, particularly focusing on how lower temperatures (160-190°F) can affect extraction and flavor profiles. I also discuss my experiments with Brazilian and Mexican coffees, explaining how their characteristics change as they cool. Listeners will learn about the nuanced relationship between brewing temperature and coffee complexity, and gain insights into how different variables can be adjusted to enhance their coffee experience.

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[0:00] Today is Saturday December 7th 2024, and I've got an interesting topic to discuss: complexity in coffee. We're going to approach this differently by bringing in an AI assistant to explore what complexity in coffee really means.

[1:45] Let me share my definition of complexity in coffee. Often, people struggle to decipher what complexity really means because there are so many different elements and flavors that they're tasting. It's about people not truly understanding what they're experiencing in their cup.

[3:30] Complexity in coffee involves a dynamic range of flavors, aromas, and textures that interact in a cup. It's not just about identifying individual notes like fruitiness or nuttiness, but how these elements weave together to create a harmonious experience. This includes layers of flavor that evolve as the coffee cools.

[5:15] One of the most fascinating aspects is how coffee transforms as it cools. I have a Mexican coffee that initially presents chocolate and peanut notes, but as it cools, the acidity becomes more pronounced, making it more exciting. The bitterness decreases, and the evolution of flavors is what I look forward to.

[7:00] With the Hario V60, I've been using a two-pour method - about 60-70% pour initially, then completing the remainder. This technique has been working well lately for bringing out complex flavors.

[8:45] I've experimented with different temperatures, particularly in the range of 185-190 degrees, sometimes even down to 170 degrees. At lower temperatures, the flavors are more muted, but I can extract more without tasting bitterness.

[10:30] Brazilian coffees, along with Mexican ones, respond particularly well to lower temperatures. The Ethiopian and African coffees react differently. The Brazilian coffee I work with presents chocolate notes with a soft acidic aftertaste.

[12:15] When brewing at extremely low temperatures, like 160-165 degrees, you can still extract the coffee, but it tastes completely different. Even in cases where it might be technically over-extracted, the bitterness remains subdued.

[14:00] The experiment at 160 degrees was particularly interesting. The extraction process became slower, but it allowed for different flavor compounds to emerge, offering a unique profile with subtle nuances.

[16:45] Looking ahead, I'm planning to experiment with even lower temperatures, around 150 degrees, using a finer espresso-type grind and a pulse method with the Hario V60 switch.

[19:00] Understanding complexity in coffee is about appreciating the entire journey from hot to cold, and how different variables affect the final cup.

[20:00] I'd love to hear about your coffee experiences. Do you drink it quickly, or do you take time to experience the journey? How do you enjoy your cup of coffee? Let me know in the comments.