Trauma Talks : With Russ Tellup
Hi, I’m Russ Tellup, a Trauma-Informed Somatic Coach and Level 1 Brainspotting practitioner. In my podcast "Trauma Talks," I dive into the neuroscience of trauma, exploring somatic healing practices, Polyvagal Theory, and IFS (Internal Family Systems) parts work. I also occasionally address the complexities of narcissistic abuse, offering insights and tools for healing. Join me each week as we navigate the journey of recovery, resilience, and self-discovery together.
Trauma Talks : With Russ Tellup
The Journey to Healing: Mind, Body, and Soul. An interview with Brinn Langdale.
What if the key to healing is understanding the complex tapestry of parts within us? Join us on Trauma Talks as we sit down with Brinn Langdale, an expert in Internal Family Systems (IFS) and a licensed therapist, who shares her journey from chaos to clarity. Through the lens of IFS, Brinn reveals how the inner critic and inner child, often seen as obstacles, are essential protectors in our psyche. By acknowledging these parts, we can reframe our past experiences and embrace self-compassion, guiding us toward healing and personal growth.
This episode highlights the "wholistic" approach to coaching, where mental and physical health are intertwined. We introduce the concept of MEDS—mindfulness, meditation, exercise, diet, and sleep—as vital components of well-being alongside the often-overlooked impact of gut health. Brinn and I also delve into the power of forgiveness in overcoming childhood trauma, sharing personal stories and insights from her coaching package, "The Whole You Activation," Available at brinnlangdale.com, which includes innovative techniques like EFT tapping and music therapy.
Wrapping up our conversation, we explore the polyvagal theory and its potential for fostering peace and relaxation. Brinn offers practical exercises and shares resources for listeners eager to embark on their healing journey. With personal stories and expert advice, this episode is a treasure trove of therapeutic insights and tools designed to empower listeners to trust their instincts and find their path to recovery. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that promises to resonate long after the episode ends.
Hi, welcome to Trauma Talks with Russ Tellop. I am Russ Tellop. I'm your host. I am a trauma-informed somatic coach with MindBodySpirit and BrainSpottingCS, which is based in Colorado Springs. Today we are interviewing Bryn Langdale. Bryn is a therapist and coach that does work primarily in parts work. She's going to talk a little bit about IFS and what parts work is, what that looks like and the types of healing that you might expect from parts work. We're going to talk a little bit about her history and some of the things that she's gone through that led her to this type of work, and then some of my history and what led me to this type of work as well. So enjoy and we'll talk to you guys afterwards. Thank you, Hi there, my name is Russ. I'm a trauma-informed somatic life coach with MindBodySpirit LLC and BrainSpot in Colorado Springs, and I've got a guest with me today, Bryn Langdale. Bryn, could you give us just a quick rundown of kind of where you're coming from and where you're going?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, thank you. Thank you for having me, russ. So yes, I am a licensed therapist and before that I was a coach and I specialize in parts work. So I help people identify and work with their inner child, their inner critic, and really strengthen that adult self, because we need that strong adult self to then soothe the inner child or befriend the inner critic. So that's kind of the lens in which I work, and the reason that I do this type of work is because this is the work that I started doing 15 years ago when I was 22. And that's when I did a deep dive into my own healing journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, basically I dealt with a lot of trauma growing up. It was almost like I had two different lives almost. On one hand, I came from a very loving and supportive family. We gave hugs and kisses and said I love you. On the other hand, like behind closed doors, it was very chaotic and traumatizing. There was a lot of physical, emotional and even sexual abuse within the house, and so that was something I dealt with my entire childhood.
Speaker 2:Okay, and really just kind of suppressed it for a while.
Speaker 1:Right, and then you started. So you started your journey around 22 years old, and how old are you now? How long has that been?
Speaker 2:I am 37.
Speaker 1:Okay, awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So when I was 18, everything kind of came to a head. It came out about the sexual abuse that was going on, had happened between me and a sibling, which is something that is extremely common but is actually not really talked about and is pretty taboo to talk about, and at the time none of my family had ever heard of it. We tried to go find resources. There weren't any available. Luckily, now that's shifting a little bit, and that's one of the reasons I'm publishing a memoir is so we can have a little bit more discussion around such a prevalent issue in our society. But yeah, so that all happened.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, I was acting out in all sorts of ways. You know I was drinking, getting blackout, drunk, smoking constant. I've been smoking since I was, you know, nine years old. Nine years old, very, very much risky, risk behavior, so hurting myself, and eating disorders, and struggled with a lot of stuff. And so by the time college hit and it all kind of came to a head and I had a boyfriend at the time who I'd been together with for a while and he basically sat me down and was like, hey, unless some things change, I can't do this anymore. And that's what really got me on my healing journey. So I'm really grateful that he had the courage to tell me that. And then I'm also really grateful that I had the courage to listen, because I could have easily blown him off and said, well, screw you, I'll go find somebody else.
Speaker 1:In fact, that probably would have been more in line with what you would normally do, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah it was, but there was. You know, I had a respect for him and I knew what I was doing. I could kind of see, and it wasn't just him, it was affecting all of my relationships. So I had enough awareness to be like, all right, let's change some things.
Speaker 2:So I enrolled in an eight-day leadership program and this leadership program completely changed my life and you know people say that, but like it literally changed my life because it got me on like such a different trajectory and it got me understanding about my inner child, my, you know, these different parts of myself, how to soothe them. It got me also understanding what happens to the brain when you know trauma happens. What happens to the body. It introduced coping skills, helped me identify my feelings and how to communicate and it really shifted a lot. And then I kept with it. And that was the big key is it wasn't just this like, oh, I'm going to go to this retreat and it's like a one and done, or you know, oh, I feel good now. I kept at it for years and years and years and years and it's actually a program that I'm a part of the leadership team on now, and something that yeah, so I like to give back and it's a totally voluntary position.
Speaker 2:Um, everybody involved is a volunteer.
Speaker 1:So what is the name of this program?
Speaker 2:It's called the authentic leadership center and it is in Sacramento, California.
Speaker 1:And is it something that people can do remotely, if they were interested in trying it out?
Speaker 2:And is it something that people can do remotely, if they were interested in trying it out. Actually, you can attend, like some of their weekly support groups, but the actual training itself is an in-person training.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's how I became a coach is I started working with them and coaching with them and, you know, studying under my mentor there, who's a psychologist, and and that's where I really, uh, learned a lot about these different parts of ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so bringing up parts work that's that's what you specialize in is IFS, internal family systems and parts work um inner child healing, that type of thing. Can you just give us a high level run through of what that looks like and why you chose that path?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So basically, it's this idea that we all have these different parts of ourselves. Right, there's a part of you that wants to eat that third slice of chocolate cake and the part of you that thinks like, hey, maybe that's not the best idea for me. The part of you that wants to go to the gym and the part of you that's like, no, I'm going to sit here and watch TV. Right, the part of you that wants to quit your job. The part of you that doesn't. Right, we all have these different parts of ourselves and parts.
Speaker 2:Work is basically an umbrella term for any sort of coaching or therapy, where you get to know these parts as if they are their own personalities. So, for example, I talk about the inner critic a lot. So the inner critic is this part of me that is all of my. You know judgmental thoughts, my, you know the judgment, the harsh, the mean, the pushy, the. You know the part of me that's telling me I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I can't do anything right, I'm not creative, anything like that, and so that's what I consider the inner critic, and it's sort of this like shaming, like wag your finger, like hey, be better, you should do better. I'm going to tough, love you into being better. I'm gonna be that drill sergeant who's gonna break you down so you can build up.
Speaker 2:Because the bottom line is that part of ourselves is actually trying to protect us and, and the metaphor I use for that is imagine you're walking down the street with a little kid and that little kid runs out into the middle of the street. You might react by saying why are you running down the street? Don't you ever want to ask me? Ever again. Oh my gosh, you're sounding pretty critical, you're sounding pretty mean, you're sounding pretty judgmental and harsh. But really, what's going on underneath that? Like, what's the emotion that's coming on underneath that? Like what's the emotion that's coming up underneath that is, you're scared. You're scared that something bad is going to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one of the biggest parts of IFS that I've fallen in love with is no matter what that part is doing and no matter how that might be detrimental or not serve you. Now its main focus is positive. Its main focus is to help you. Its main focus is to protect you, and it's doing the best job it knows how.
Speaker 2:Absolutely 100%. And the same thing can then be applied to the inner child, can then be applied to the inner child. So say that child that ran out into the middle of the street, say that kid, they just got yelled at right and screamed at and, depending on how harsh like if you had a really, really harsh parent it might not have just been screaming, they might've been hitting you or beating you or you know doing something like that. And so what happens? If this kid is so scared of that punishment it doesn't even want to cross the street when it's looked both ways. But what if you know, eventually, going away, you know, to college is across the street, or getting that dream job is across the street, or asking out your crush is across the street, right, right, this child is trying to protect itself by not getting yelled at or not getting beat by this you know harsh parent, or the critic in this case and they're trying to protect themselves by not crossing that street.
Speaker 2:And so that's kind of what I'm saying, that that's another way of saying like we're all trying to protect ourselves, we all have the kind of these ways that we limit ourselves. Oh, I'm not going to go after this or I'm not going to push myself on that. Well, are you protecting yourself from failing? Are you protecting yourself from what you think might be looking like an idiot, or you're you know you're trying to protect yourself from being embarrassed or disappointed, or or you know being let down, right? So there's all these ways that the, that the inner child, is also trying to protect ourselves by often keeping us small and limited.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, do you do any work with like exile wounds and that type of thing as well?
Speaker 2:So that's kind of using some of the language from IFS. I personally like to keep it simple. I think that the wounded inner child is our exiled wound, but sometimes those languages can be really hard to digest. I like to keep it simple. I think of ourselves as we, you know, we got the scared younger part that we try to pretend doesn't exist and we have this really mean inner part that is probably we like to pretend isn't as mean as it actually is inside our heads. And then we have our adult, and our adult is the logical, mature, rational part of ourselves, the one that can zoom out and see the bigger picture and kind of hold the goals and is in charge of how you want to walk in the world.
Speaker 2:And oftentimes the critic and the inner child are so strong that whatever they want wins and the adult kind of gets pushed aside. So what I try to help people with is really strengthening that adult self, to be like okay, what does your adult ultimately want? Okay, you might not feel like you know, quitting, quitting your job and and going for something else, but does this align with what your adult wants? Does this align with your values? Does it align with your, your core values and your morals and your ethics and all of that right like how do you actually want to be in the world? And the adult can do the hard thing and get through it, whereas the kid or the critic like they might not want to do that hard thing.
Speaker 2:Or the critic is like hounding you, like why didn't you apply for jobs, why didn't you quit your job? But you're staying stuck for a reason. You're staying stuck because that kid is afraid to quit the job. Or you're staying stuck because it's you know you don't want to fail or you don't want to, you know, not achieve your dream, right, so it all makes perfect sense. And so that is one of the reasons you asked like why did I want to go down this path? Is one of it is because it helps everything you do make absolute perfect sense. Like we all like I felt like I was crazy for most of my life. I was like straight up.
Speaker 2:I was like why am I doing this? Why am I acting this way? Why am I hurting somebody I love? Why am I exploding? Why am I doing this? And I just thought I was crazy.
Speaker 1:But then, once I started to see that there were all these different parts of me that were making total sense, based off of everything that they had experienced in Denver in life, yeah, I've done a little bit of parts work myself, and the thing that I found so powerful about it is, once you acknowledge the part exists, thank the part for everything that it's done up until this point to keep you safe, and then just let it know, hey, I've got it from here, it's done up until this point to keep you safe, and then just let it know, hey, I've got it from here, and it just seems to just dissolve away. I mean, part's still there and it'll still flare up occasionally, but it just seems to to give its power away, you know.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Yeah. One of my favorite like tools or lines that I use is it's not your job anymore, right, it's no longer that kid's job. Our inner child thinks that they're in charge. They're the one that's supposed to go to work, they're the one that's supposed to be married, they're the one that's supposed to be in the relationship. They're the one who's supposed to make the money and do the hard things. No, it's not. It's not your job to do that. It's the adult's job to do all of that, and that alone can be a huge shift for people. Like you said. Thank you for trying your hardest to make it happen, but we don't want a six-year-old going to work or driving a car or being in a relationship or parenting kids right, we don't want the five year old to do that. We want the adult to do that.
Speaker 1:So for those who are not familiar with parts work or just tuning in and just trying to figure out what we're talking about, can you go through kind of quickly, just over high level, what parts work therapy looks like and kind of how it works?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think a big part of it is identifying these parts, and so what I will do is I will actually do what I call parts work interview. So I will ask, like for you, for example, russ, if I may. Um, I would say, okay, russ, I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna ask russ, the adult, to kind of step forward and I'm gonna ask the critic to step, or I'm gonna ask the adult to step back and ask the critic to step forward. Okay so, and then I would give you a moment to like kind of center yourself. And you know you would come forward with, like the critic Okay, so let's get in touch with the part that's that's really judgmental and harsh, the part that's measuring how good enough or not good enough you're doing, and things like that.
Speaker 2:And then I would ask a series of questions, and some of it would be like okay, well, what do you think about Russ? Like, can you tell me what you think about Russ? And like, how do you think Russ is doing? And then we hear everything the critic has to say. And then it would be something like okay, well, what do you ultimately want for Russ? And then we hear the critic's goals, and usually those goals are actually pretty helpful, like oh, I actually want russ to, you know, succeed I want, I want russ to help people, I want, I want russ to be in connected, healthy relationships, you know. But but the way the critic tries to go about doing that might be a little counterintuitive, but the ultimate goal is they want good things, kind of like going back to that protector.
Speaker 1:Yeah, interesting. Um, so you're also a holistic coach. Can you tell me what that's, what that's all about?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I consider myself a holistic coach and when I talk about holistic I think of the whole self. So I actually spell holistic with a W, as in the whole person. So the reason I do that it kind of goes back to parts work. We want to look at the whole person. We're not getting rid of any of these parts. We don't kick them off the island. We're not saying hey, get out of here. We don't want to say like, okay, I don't like you critic, or hey, kid, get out of here. We don't do that. It's all about the whole self.
Speaker 2:Now, in addition to that, we're not just our emotions and our thoughts, we have a physical body, right. So I use an acronym called MEDS, and MEDS stands for mindfulness, meditation, exercise, diet, sleep, and then I tack on a few other S's like screen time, spirituality, support and sexuality, because these are all areas of life that are impacting us now and our mental health. So if you go through that list and figure out, okay, what are my exercise habits and how can I tweak them to improve my mental and physical health, okay, what about you know that goes along with diet and, I believe, our gut health? A lot of people aren't aware, but there's a ton of emerging information about gut health these days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that cyclical feedback makes a huge difference when you're working on healing.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and they're calling the gut the second brain, and that's because 90 to 95% of our serotonin is produced in our gut and at least 50% of our dopamine is produced in our gut.
Speaker 2:So a lot of times people are like, oh, I need to take this antidepressant or whatever it is to help the chemical imbalance in my brain. But really there's a chemical imbalance in your gut and that's where we need to be focusing a lot of that attention in our energy is because, if you can clear up, a lot of people have gut infections that they're not even aware of. They think that things are just kind of normal. It's normal to have bloating or irregular bowels or whatever it is. But really if you clear up what's going on your gut, it has a huge impact on your mental health. So a lot of people are like, oh, I'll just eat vegetables and make sure I get my protein, but unless you have the gut flora and the healthy gut bacteria to digest those things, then just eating healthy is actually not going to be enough. But if you get that cleared up, then when you eat healthy, then you're actually supporting yourself.
Speaker 1:So are you working with them on just general health then, as well, as well as the trauma healing that you're doing with them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I believe you know they go hand in hand and so, yes, we can work on skills and we can work on, you know, these different parts. And also your mental health is totally linked to your physical health as well, so we can kind of play off each other in that way. So let's do some tweaks to the physical health that will improve the mental health and let's do some of the mental health to then be able to get to some of the physical health too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think, like you said, they're so tied together that even just working on the mental health piece ends up helping the physical health as well. I started my journey about two years ago with some RTT and immediately I noticed that I started losing weight, and I wasn't doing anything to lose weight, it just started falling off. I lost about 70 pounds in the course of a year while doing all these different modalities trying to heal my mind, which in turn started healing everything else as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. What's RTT? A few different things. For those people that are interested in all the good freebies that are out there, I have a couple of different free options. One I have a blog that I send out every two weeks. I also have a 30 episode podcast that is calledistic Approach to Healing and it interviews 30 different holistic healers. So if you're just kind of starting out or if you want to find other modalities to your healing journey, that's a really good resource. I love resources, so I just constantly am providing them. The other resource that I have that's chock full of resources is a travel guide to your healing journey. Oh, cool.
Speaker 1:What is the travel guide all about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's really fun. So I love to travel. I actually just finished up a year living in a van doing van life all over the country. So I'm a therapist and I love to travel. So I made a travel guide to your healing journey and basically it's laid out just like a travel guide. It gives you what to pack, like what to bring, what to leave behind. It talks about different sightseeing stops you'll see along the way. It talks about cautions on the road and it basically just kind of lays out what you can expect on a healing journey. It also gives you lots of resources like podcasts to listen to, books, to read people, to follow different things like that. So I love that resource. That one's super fun.
Speaker 2:I also have a monthly workshop series that I do all about parts work. So that workshop series is on the third Thursday of every month and is free to anybody. Um, and especially if anybody's on here listening and you work with clients, it's great for people who work with clients and it's great for people who are also looking for their, their own healing too and um, so, for example, I do, like you know, befriend your inner critic is one. Soothe your inner child, strengthen your adult, hear your inner teenager. You know things like that, so I do that once a month as well, and then you would also find information about my speaking events that I do and how to get in touch with me for individual sessions.
Speaker 1:Okay, awesome. And then do you, do your sessions remotely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything is remote. I do travel for speaking events. I'm going to Washington DC to speak at a conference. I was just in California and did a couple speaking events, but yeah, everything is remote.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, let's see what else can we chat about here. You said you were working on a book.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:What is that about?
Speaker 2:I am working on a book and it is my memoir. A lot of people say I'm too young to write a memoir, but a lot happened in my first 30 years of life, so that's what it's about. It's about the first 30 years of my. So that's what it's about. It's about the first 30 years of my life and kind of talks walks through. You know what it looked like on the outside when I was dealing with childhood trauma, a lot of the things that I was working with and dealing with and then healing and forgiveness.
Speaker 2:So I found forgiveness for my abuser about a month before my 30th birthday. It was my goal. I dedicated my 29th year to forgiveness and I found it has been a game changer. You know, I feel like I was really able to take my power back and not be so controlled by somebody else. And somebody else who wasn't really even in my life is in my life and I'm able to talk to them and um have compassion and understanding for them and uh, and also have compassion and understanding for myself and for my little girl and my inner child and what she had to experience and went through, and I get to protect her now with boundaries and um. You know, we don't really go back into that space anymore.
Speaker 1:She doesn't have that emotional charge that she used to carry I imagine her letting go, something that painful was, was a huge turn in your life it.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was massive, it was. It was really like a light switch. It was all of a sudden. Once that moment hit, it was like a massive weight was lifted off my shoulders and I could. It was almost like I could see clearly again, or not even again, for the first time in my life, and and that was that was really significant to do- yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 1:I had a similar experience as a kid and just recently, in the last six months or so, had the opportunity to confront that person and and heal from it, and we both actually had a pretty powerful healing experience or letting go of all that pain and guilt Wow.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, wow, that's huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, that's huge, yeah. So if somebody was interested in working with you, what, what, what should they expect as far as the amount of time that they would be working with you? What, what sessions look like? That sort of thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I offer a coaching package that is called the the whole activation, the whole you activation. And that's where we go in and we do these different interviews. We interview the inner critic, the inner child and the adult, and we do an inner integration session and those are 90 minute sessions and and that's kind of a great place to start right You're getting in touch with these different parts, you're getting to know them, you get journaling exercises, you get um different reflection pieces, and so that's a really great package to start with, and then from there we can incorporate other things.
Speaker 2:But I also use um music therapy to calm the nervous system. That is a really huge. I work with the polyvagal theory and I work with basically listening to certain filtered music that will help shift your nervous system into a more regulated state on a regular basis. So it's more than just like, oh, listen to this music when you're triggered and you feel better's, like no, this gives you long lasting impacts. Okay, um, so that's, that's really cool. I also do tapping, um, so eft, and for people who aren't familiar with what tapping is, it's kind of like acupuncture, but instead of putting needles into different energy points, you physically tap on the body at different energy points, and it is an amazing tool for releasing old, stuck emotions, traumas and negative core beliefs.
Speaker 1:And is the EFT tapping? Is that something that you're doing specifically with the client, or are you giving them exercises that they can do at home?
Speaker 2:specifically with the client or are you giving them exercises that they can do at home? I specifically do that through and then those are also 90 minute sessions and then I also have just regular 50 minute sessions as well. But if you're somebody who's really interested in kind of hitting the ground running and you're ready to have some transformational work, I suggest you know the longer sessions can can really make some shifts in a shorter amount of time.
Speaker 1:Cool, and you also mentioned that you do some work in polyvagal theory. Yes, could you give us an exercise that we could work on as we close out and and do some vagal toning?
Speaker 2:Well, are you referring to like audio audible vagal toning? Uh, well, are you referring to like audio audible vagal toning?
Speaker 1:It could be audible vagal toning, it could be bilateral tapping, whatever. Whatever you wanted to share.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, one of my, one of my favorites, is just kind of to like notice the shift is very subtle.
Speaker 2:Um, so, when you're working with polyvagal basically, the vagal nerve is the nerve that runs from the top of your spine down your whole body and radiates throughout your whole body, and it is one of the main controllers of, like, your nervous system and so when you're working with it, it's very subtle.
Speaker 2:And so, for example, I'm going to invite you to go ahead and slowly look around the room and identify something that brings you peace. So it could be a color, it could be a picture, it could be something that brings you peace. So it could be a color, it could be a picture, it could be something that brings you peace. And once you find it, keep your attention there. And the reason we say slowly look around the room is because if you frantically look around the room or quickly look around the room, it will heighten your nervous system. So the idea here is you want to slowly, gently, look around the room, find something that brings you peace, a color, a picture, something that brings up a peaceful memory, whatever it is, and then focus on it, and just sit there and focus on it and then, once you're doing this, if you feel any sort of shift into relaxation or peace, then focus on that feeling of relaxation and peace and really marinate in that feeling and really marinate in that feeling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can definitely feel a softening in my chest.
Speaker 2:There you go, and then you would want to really marinate in the softening in your chest and let that really hold you. So this is an exercise that you can. You know you can stay there as long as you want, um, and it can be really helpful when you know it's just something short, fast, you could do it anywhere. Um, you know that you're that you feel safe technically, um, feeling safe is important, um, especially to the nervous system. So, yeah, so that's one little exercise that you can do.
Speaker 1:Okay, awesome. Thank you for sharing that. Is there anything else?
Speaker 2:you'd like to share with the audience Anything we missed, you know? Yeah, just the one thing. Just for anybody listening who is either dabbling in, you know, figuring out what their healing journey looks like, or on their healing journey, I just really want to let people know that healing is possible. And it can be really confusing and really frustrating because we don't have the best mental health system out there, but there are resources available and I would really encourage you to follow your own instincts, your own intuition, your own guidance around what could be helpful for you and really dive into it. You know we only got this one life and so might as well make it what you want, and I think a big part of doing that is by doing the work and healing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd agree. It can be really challenging at first to admit that you need to heal. I think that a lot of us hold on to this I'm okay kind of mentality to prevent themselves from having to see where they're not okay. And facing the fact that you're not okay and that you actually need to do some work can be really difficult. But once you do it, man, it's like a like a snowball effect.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Well. I'm really excited for you that, like you're kind of in this new, new place in life and that must be. That must be really exciting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I went through a series of of really traumatic relationships and trying to figure out what was wrong with them Didn't do any good, you know. So once I started realizing, I started listening to a to a podcast by a person named Caroline Strawson she's out of the UK by a person named Caroline Strawson. She's out of the UK and she does some narcissistic abuse, specialty type stuff in her podcast but also talks a lot about trauma. And I have a history that's just chock full of trauma. I mean, my first traumatic experience was three days old when my dad picked me up and spanked me because I was crying, you know. So it's all the way through my childhood and then in the military.
Speaker 1:I had trauma in the military and then continued trauma and relationships after the military. So by the time I realized that I needed help, I needed it badly. I was in pretty bad shape and just in the last two years it's absolutely incredible how much my life has changed and how far I've come. And it's people like yourself and Caroline and now me that are helping to bring this stuff to the forefront and it's it's amazing to see. It's amazing to see the response to from the general public and how people are yearning for healing. They really are. We live in a sick world.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, uh, bren Langdale. Thank you so much for joining me on the podcast. I really appreciate it. Uh, if you guys are interested in getting a hold of bren, she can be reached at her website and that's b-r-i-n-n-l-a-n-g-d-a-l-ecom bren langdalecom, and I'll share that in the notes as well. She's got a specific link where you can get a hold of, uh, some of the stuff that she's releasing, like workshops and things like that. So I'll get I'll get that in the show notes for you guys as well. Thanks again, bryn, for for doing this. I really appreciate it, taking the time out of your day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, russ. Thanks for having me. I really, really appreciate it as well.
Speaker 1:All right, we'll be in touch. All right, guys? Thanks so much and we'll see you next time. Thanks.
Speaker 2:I hope you guys enjoyed this episode with Bryn.
Speaker 1:Bryn is brilliant when it comes to this part work stuff and if you guys are interested in working with Bryn, she can be reached at BrynLangdalecom. That's B-R-I-N-N-L-A-N-G-D-A-L-Ecom. If you put in forward slash link that'll get you to the page that has all of her programs and her freebies where you can go in and get some information and even some programs that she offers at no cost. Be sure to check her out. If you guys are interested in working with me doing brain spotting, arts work, general somatic coaching, that type of thing, I am also available for one-on-ones. You can reach me at brainspottingcscom. That's brainspottingcs, like coloradospringscom. Just fill out the form there and you'll get a little brochure about all the different practices that I offer, different modalities, as well as it'll get an email to me. Just get an appointment with you. So once again, thanks for coming by and checking out the podcast and we'll see you next week. Thank you.