How to Make a Midlife Pivot with Guest Nathalie Reis

Staying stuck is one of the biggest fears I hear again and again from the fabulous females I coach who are yearning to add life to their years.

We're tired of questioning "Is this it?".

But taking that first step towards getting more from our Midlife and beyond is so scary that we can shut down choices and instead settle... play it safe.

So I'm delighted to be joined by Nathalie Reis as she shares how she has pivoted personally and professionally. 

And we delve into how we can both self-reflect and leverage our life experience to discover our new pathway for our next chapter.

We explore how to reframe our mindset and build momentum to take those initial small steps.

And Nathalie and I celebrate the joy of finding our Midlife cheerleaders who are there for us along the way.

Connect with Nathalie

http://www.nathaliereistranslations.com/

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to Midlife Unlimited, the podcast for women who want more. I'm your host, Kate Porter, the Midlife Metamorphosis coach, and I know what it's like to feel stuck navigating the midlife maze. I've looked in the mirror and thought, who is that woman? So Midlife Unlimited is here to let you know you are not alone. You don't have to put on a brave face and put up with it. You don't have to play it safe. Midlife Unlimited is all about ripping off that mask and telling it like it really is. Nothing is off limits because together there's no limit to what we can achieve. So, welcome to today's episode. Now, staying stuck is one of the biggest fears I hear again and again from the fabulous women I work with. And me out and about. You know what it's like. I'm always up for a chat. We're tired of questioning, is this it? Sick of stagnating, feeling we're failing to fulfil our potential. If we could even remember what we wanted that potential to be. Taking that first step though, towards getting more from our midlife and beyond is so blinking scary that we can shut down choices and instead play it safe. But this settling comes at a cost. So how do we start to move forward and explore the new paths that our second chapter has to offer on our terms? If this resonates, then this episode is just for you. Because I'm delighted to be joined by my guest today, Natalie Reese, your French market entry partner, helping lifestyle brands entering France to talk about how to make a midlife pivot. So welcome, Natalie. It's fabulous to have you here.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Hello, Kate. Thank you for having me. I'm delighted and very excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Oh, my absolute pleasure because we were having a little pre-chat, and this pivot is a word I thought, yes, this encapsulates you, your story, and it's a word that anyone would think we were dancing through. Pivot or always reminds me in my dancing days, like pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot, doing disco dancing and everything. But it's very much movement, isn't it? Swiveling, rotating, turning, spinning. But it doesn't always feel positive, does it? It doesn't always feel positive thinking we need to pivot.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Um, I think what it involves, I think pivoting to me uh means changing direction. And changing direction can be exciting, but it could it can also be very scary because when you change direction, you don't know where you're heading to.

SPEAKER_03 2:52

Yeah, no, I think you've hit it absolutely then because so many of us, it's that procrastination, that waiting for clarity, waiting for someone to say it's all gonna be okay. And and that isn't gonna come, is it? But also in midlife, there are so many reasons. I mean, obviously, pivot at the moment, if you look all over social media, which I tend to, it's being, you know, midlife career pivots, but I think it's personal life pivots as well. And your story is you've pivoted, well, I will say beautifully, but I've got I'm thinking of a ballerina now, that's pirouetting. I'm getting my words muddled. And you will be sharing your story in a little while and your top tips later on, which I'm looking forward to. And I might fling a couple in because I've pivoted myself from obviously newspaper editor to midlife metamorphosis coach and host of Midlife Unlimited. Um, so yeah, I'm all about pivoting. Pivoting is rather exciting, but as we say, it can be scary. That that fear of the unknown and that that waiting for certainty that I've said it before, I'll say it again, it's never gonna come. And the wonderful hindsight that we only get afterwards. So obviously, listeners will, if they haven't met you already, the fo this is the first time they've they've encountered Natalie, they may notice that rather lovely accent. Now, obviously, that gives me immediately the impression that you've pivoted somewhere along the line to be talking to me from the UK. So take us back. How have you come to be where you are today? And French market entry consultant. That sounds so exotic, it sounds fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Yeah, it is exciting, it's something that I absolutely love doing. Um, so I mean, in terms of uh pivoting from a personal uh point of view, um, I was born um in Corsica, you know, which is an a little island in the south of France. Um, I think most uh British people have heard about it, but I still get yes. And uh so you know, from a young age I was living in this island, and I was brought up in a family where um, you know, not several languages, but I was obviously French is the uh national language, but there is also a Corsican language which is spoken uh in the streets and uh by many people, and also uh which is which was taught at school, so um you know I was exposed to that, and then on top of that, I had uh my mom um was Italian and actually from Sicily, and she only spoke Italian with my grandmother. So, you know, I was exposed to that from a young age, and even if I didn't uh you know, I didn't use the language because I always spoke to my um mom and my grandmother in in French, you know, it made me, I think it made my brain uh quite receptive to language, and uh then at school I started learning you know English and then German and then Italian. So, you know, this was you know, but in You're a language sponge. Yeah, I I was, I was, and then I did Russian and a little bit of Czech later at university, but uh but basically in terms of pivoting, you know, I I I was at this island, and all I wanted was to leave the island because it was too limited to um, you know, there were not enough opportunities. So I went to study in the south of France, in Aix-en-Provence, and you know, which was a lovely, uh, lovely place, and I studied uh English and American literature, and then I moved on to uh Paris, and that's when I did a uh master's in um economics and English. So, you know, I was already pivoting absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

I have this image of Dick Whittington going off to explore. I'm I'm leaving to I'm leaving my smaller town and going off to explore the big wide world.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Yes, but I was uh you know, I was I think from a young age I was ready to leave. I knew I was going to leave. Um, and uh, you know, uh the only thing is I went north and north and north, you know, and then yeah, after Paris, I came to London because um I got a grant to uh to work for a company for six months in Covent Garden. Actually, I was very lucky, and uh that's where I met my husband. So, you know, that there was, I think from a young age, there was this um readiness to change things, to change direction, to change language, to change, you know, horizons basically. So um, and that wasn't it wasn't scary, it was exciting. At this age, I at that age, it was something I wanted desperately, and I didn't, I wasn't scared of it. Of course, there was always a little bit of apprehension, like when I was I became a French assistant in Sheffield when I was only 20, and that was a year away, which was you know, complete change of way of life and you know, all of this. But yes, I mean in in terms of personal life, obviously I've pivoted uh and and moved quite a bit.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

But in terms of um, I don't know if you want me to to speak about a little bit about my job, how it's evolved from being well, you've definitely, and again, that was I was just thinking because obviously, as you just said, you know, your your journey from Corsica to Covent Garden and Sheffield was we talked about pivoting and and going down new paths and exploring new things, but as you also said, because you were younger, you didn't have the for want of a better word, and when I say this word, I mean it in the nicest way, the baggage that we now have in midlife. And I don't just mean baggage in terms of partner if we've got one, kids, if we've got one, parents, if we've got one, all sorts of responsibilities, the ones that we need to have, and the ones that we blink and take on that we actually don't really need to have at all, but also the baggage that we've kind of added to ourselves, isn't it? The worries, the doubts, the the the lack of self-worth, the the the do I dare, the I can't do that. And I think, you know, for a midlife pivot, all these things are kind of adding weight. I I compared you to Dick Whittington. If no one knows, it's it's a fairy tale about this lad who goes off in search of his fortune in London. I think he ends up being the mayor of London, if I remember rightly. Um, but anyway, you know, I imagine he's got his little stick with a little handkerchief of all his all his belongings in a nice little neat bundle. But by the time we hit midlife, there's no way we're gonna fit all our baggage into a nice little neat bundle, are we? But I love that your actual career, and I know we're not a business podcast, but as I always say, the business that we talk about is because it's intrinsically intertwined with the woman that you are, and your midlife pivot was really something quite, it must have been a lot of thought that went into it because you have really shifted, haven't you, from copywriter to creating really this niche of your own, which I absolutely love.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

Yes, I mean basically I was I spent uh quite a big chunk of my career uh translating in uh for um international development agency uh agencies, uh like you know, UN agencies, economics, corporate, etc. So, you know, for for a big chunk, because I did this master's in economics and English, and I wanted to translate in uh you know those fields, but suddenly, as you say, I mean and I mean obviously I was uh you know, life happens, you know. When I started my career, my daughter was born, uh, my son came two years later. Uh my husband had a very good career, but I mean he had incredible hours, you know, he was out from seven o'clock in the morning till eight o'clock at night, and so basically it sounds all of an absent father during the week to about yeah, completely. I mean, he was around at the weekend, but you know, it and it was a choice, you know. I knew that his career had to be the priority, and I accepted it. So, you know, my career is going to be uh self-employed, I'm not going to be employed by anyone because that means going to an office, and I won't be able to do that because we've got two lovely children who need looking after and being picked up and it all of that. And so um, you know, sometimes when I say this, I I say I say it with a pinch of sword because I was happy for my husband to develop his career, and I was also happy as a person to be self-employed because I like my own company and I like my own um, you know, working on my own. And so for so many years, as the children grew, I took more work and more work, you know, the career evolved slowly but surely, and you know, I was, you know, I was definitely growing every year. Um, but it was a gradual process, um, very gradual. And then in the industry, we started uh hearing about machine translation and which would be called AI. And I understood about, I would say about 12 years ago, that if I wanted to continue working, I needed to do something because I knew that the machine would be replacing or certainly, you know, taking a big chunk of the translation work, you know, the pure translation work. So I felt it. And well, I mean, I went to conferences and you know, events, and I and I listened and I knew that it was coming. And I thought to myself, if I stay as I am, I will lose my job, and I, you know, this is not going to be fun, and this is not what I want. So that's where my first pivot, real pivot, it was a massive, massive decision, but it was one that I took with fear, but again with excitement. Because a part of me, uh, you know, when you translate, you're a writer in your own, you know, right. But you're not called a writer, you're called a translator. But I I I loved writing, and you know, my life as a woman is surrounded by things uh like art, I love art, travel, beauty, fashion, all those lifestyle topics are actually, you know, a big part of me. And it's what I read about, what I listen to. Uh you know, I'm lucky to be in London. I wanted the big city because I want to do those things. I want to go to exhibitions, I want to do all of that. So I knew that I had the option to turn from economics and corporate or factual translation to more creative translation, more nuanced, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 14:55

As well, because I just had I just had a thought as well, because translate I like having the subtitles on when I'm watching TV, and it always amazes me when it's a dub, say Korean, for example. I only I only use that as an example because we've watched quite a few Korean thrillers recently on Netflix, other channels are available. But I always have a little giggle to myself, and this is something that I'm sure you'll you'll be quite passionate about, the difference in translation, even between what the actors are being dubbed as saying and what the subtitles are saying. And as you said, about nuanced and and your interests and your passions for lifestyle, etc. Would you can take it the kind of the scientific translation of this word means this, but then to actually translate it in a way that AI never really can. It's the same as when you ask AI, you know, it's with all due respect, AI, you're fabulous, but you're a robot, you haven't got human, human touch and human emotion. Yeah, you must be bringing your warmth, your humanity, your love, your passion for beauty.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

I exactly. I mean, there is, you know, there's the human aspect, you know. Um, AI is incapable of doing emotion and judge. No, but you know, uh transcreation or creative translation with copywriting is completely different. It means that it does mean that you can leave sentences out and or add sentences because it depends. You need to know the French culture and the French humors to actually know what they're going to be sensitive to and what is going to you know trigger something and eventually buying, you know, buying a product or a service or whatever. So, yeah, so so my pivot was there in the sense that I decided that I would qualify to a sort of qualification in copywriting, and copywriting meant you know, knowing how to write in the style of a blog post, knowing how to write an newspaper ad or a magazine ad or an email campaign. So I, you know, I learned all a little, you know, all about this, and and then um turned completely towards. I mean, obviously, I was still working and I've still got one uh international uh development consultancy who I work with because you know those skills haven't disappeared. But in terms of promotion and pivot, I did go into uh creative translation and I did the right thing. I did the right thing because uh, you know, as we can see today in 2026, a lot of businesses are using AI to translate their websites, and you know, um it is it's it's a very difficult thing to watch, but you know, I'm glad, as scary as it was at the time, to do a copywriting course, you know, you're you know, you suddenly decide to go on a course, and you know, it's not that easy to to do homework again.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Um but you've just literally encapsulated in your story there two of the things I would say are integral to pivoting in midlife, whether that's professional or personal, because we're using it, we're doing the the the two the two Ps of pivotal, pivotal, professional, and personal, I almost what I was gonna say then. But the first one is very much grow, well, I call it metamorphosis mindset, but you know, the growth mindset, that that curiosity to learn new things and to build on your existing strengths, and all too often in midlife we can forget, especially if we're and this is more for a career pivot, maybe, if we've put our career on the back burner for a while, if we've been, heaven forbid, mum or or you know, the carer or whatever, and now we're thinking, right, we're gonna come back, whether that be exploring starting our own business, whether that be exploring going down a different career path. It is all about, isn't it, exploring what we actually enjoy, like the fact you said about lifestyle, that was something that was really important to you. It was an interest, it was something you had in your heart that you knew you could incorporate. Yes. And I I love that. Those are two things, you know, people say, Oh, pivoting, it's just about change for the sake of change. But I don't think it is, I think it's about intentional and considered change. And I think by doing that, we can um you're never going to eradicate this fear. But I think you I mean, I don't like the word fear very much anyway, but I think you need that little bit of nerve excitement, you need that little bit of fire in your belly, in your mennowy, um, to actually get you out of bed and get you going for it rather than procrastinating and saying, Oh, I exactly no, you need something to make you think, actually, this is rather sexy. I think I'm rather excited about this.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Definitely, you're absolutely right, you know, because it gives it gives interest to a life, you know, it it sort of adds to your life, and you know, you've got to, you know, when you've got an idea, when there are possibilities, you know, take them, grab them, you know, don't don't ignore them, don't procrastinate. You know, yes, it is it's slightly you feel nervous and apprehensive about things, but on the other hand, what's if you don't do it, what are you going to feel? Yeah, yeah, you know, if you don't try, you know, your journey in life has to have ups and downs and successes and failures, and you know, we all know that you know we learn from failures or mishaps or you know, whatever you want to call them.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

Yeah, missteps, I like to call them because every time every time I hear the word failure, I have to point out what I think failure is, is failure literally means what you thought was going to happen didn't happen. That's right. Another result. Now then you think, did it did this alternative because of something in my control or out of my control? If it was something out of your control, shit happens to a certain extent. If it was something inside your control, you think, well, actually, okay, what can I, not could I have done, don't look backwards. Moving forwards, what can I do now? What do I need to do? Who do I need to speak to? What do I need to change about myself to make me and also think, well, actually, did it did the result that I was wanting, is that the right thing anyway? Well, we never know that again. Hindsight. But another thing as well that's just sprung into my rather foggy mind today is and it's how we met when it comes to midlife pivoting, is I the phrase. Find your tribe, I know. Yes, yes, yes. But in midlife, there are so many friendships that have fallen by the wayside, and that's a topic for we've spoken touched on it in other episodes. I think I need to actually do a whole episode about friendship because it's something that's coming up again and again, and you know, friendships that sadly are not benefiting. I don't mean well, yes, in a selfish way, they're dragging you down, they're draining you, and we can't it is okay to actually walk away, but on the flip side is the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful opportunities to meet new, amazing women in midlife that I never thought when my son went off to university and I, you know, everything. I just I had no idea that I was going to open up this myriad of new connections of women that now, and I think it's so different. There's no more of that. Oh, look at her. I mean, now it's like a joyous lifting up, isn't it? I mean, our ban, she was obviously our guest a couple of months ago. I can't even remember what was it, beginning of the year, I think. Anyway, uh, you know, she's created this wonderful group that Hazel as well from the other day, yourself, we're all in there, and cheerleading, I think, is a major part of uh I I don't like to use the words successful, but midlife pivoting. Yes, you're not alone, you're not alone, so surround yourself. And if even if it's not physically being able to meet up, if you can't afford to go traveling around, if you can't afford to go to all these big amazing events, there are little fate, not little, there are Facebook groups that are free. There are things that you can do for free. You don't have to feel alone, do you?

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Yes, that's right. I mean, that's that's one of the um the things that I changed as well recently. Um, you know, I I tended to be uh with translators only, you know, translation conferences and translators, you know, events, and you know, it's a little world of you know translators and and absolutely wonderful people of all nationalities and different languages, and you know, it's it's a lovely community, and you know, we help each other enormously, especially when we can't help for some languages we refer each other, you know. We we really are a very big community, but I did feel that I was missing out as well on other things, and I I started going, I met Alban and then she introduced me to other people and groups, and now I you know I'm part of her visibility um studio meetup group, and then I'm also part of uh Jay Jalen Um Boys' Academy for Women and Oh, yes, Jay, yeah, and obviously Ema as well.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Ema are date the dating stats.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

So just before Christmas, that is such a women are absolutely amazing and inspiring, you know, they are supportive and they um they open doors, they open uh doors to other ideas, to up to opportunities, but also you know, they are friends, you know, they become that's it.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Because I'm gonna say, you know, Midlife Unlimited, it's it's not a business podcast, it's about the women behind the business, and that's that's this this is what I mean. It's about, as you say, friendships and and lifting each other up and just being there because it's not all about it's not all about rose petals and and unicorns. There are days when we're like, even in the WhatsApp group, there are days when we're like, this is not a great things aren't going very well today. I'm feeling a bit meh. Yes, and that's all right. But when you're feeling a bit meh on your own, especially if you are trying to pivot, you are facing all these, and it can seem massive, even if with hindsight, that good old thing, you might look back in a year's time and think, actually, I was actually pr making that a lot more complicated than it need to have been. But that's what we do. We tend to, especially with the hormones flung into it as well. We can we can overthink hormones, yeah. We can overthink things. I mean, as I call it positive, uh positive or intentional um catastrophizing. You know, think what's the worst that could happen and prepare for it. What would you actually do if if a zebra ran across the road? You know, or there are things that you can prepare for, but still things will happen that there's no way you could have good and bad, good and bad things.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Definitely, definitely, and you learn that you know you learn about that the those women's or those people's businesses, but you learn so much about their own life, their private life, personal life as well, and you understand, you know, you understand uh their choices, their position, you know, you understand all of this, and I think it's so so lovely to be able to, because you know, we're all most of us are self-employed, and so we're that's it from home on our own, you know, in front of a because so many of us, this this midlife pivot, we are embodying it, we're living it, whether whether we're living it successfully, whether we're living it at the very beginning, you know, and I mean, you know, we could have just had come out of a long-term relationship, and that's our pivot, and now we're starting off.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

We could have walked away from corporate, we could have been going back, we could be just trying out a hobby to see if it works, see if there's any chance. We're basically adding life to our years, which is what I'm all about. We're not sitting there thinking if only or I can't, or we're we're doing the yet, we're saying I can't do it yet, right? What do I need then? Yeah, can't do it yet. What do I need?

SPEAKER_00 27:53

You're absolutely right, because we get to a certain age where we think, okay, yeah, I may have a couple, you know, I may have 10 years of work, or why should I shake everything? Why should I move everything? You know, why should I uh not do uh or why should I travel that far? What you know, we you can you can ask those questions and say, stay put, calm down, you know, wait peacefully, you know, you're healthy, everything's fine, blah blah. But you know, that's not who we are now, is it? You know, and mid midlife women are you know they're not close to retiring and calling.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

We're sassy, we're sick, yeah, we're sexy, we're come on, let's go for it. Don't put us in the corner. Well, or if you do, don't expect to be quiet to be quiet in the corner. You'll you'll hear laughter and all sorts.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Yeah, and we have ideas, I think, and we allow those ideas to develop, you know. We don't shut them down, we just go with the flow and think, do you know what? Let's go for it, and then ask around and you know, pursue things. And I think you know, you the it's I think it's fantastic because it doesn't mean that you're getting to a stage where you've got to slow down and wait for you know retirement to strike, and you know, you can do anything.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, tomorrow you're off to see Amanda Fitzgerald, another of our fabulous guests. That's right. Go, go, go. Well, while I've while I've got you here then, let's let's start. Because I did say, you know, could you come up with some insights and lessons learnt from your own journey? And I know we've already kind of been flinging out all these, I do love that, a bit a bit of like, oh, I hadn't thought of that. But is there anything? I mean, have we touched on some of your thoughts already?

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Or you know, one of the things that I you know we touched on is if you see anything, whether it's work or or you know, leisure, you know, new trends, don't think, you know, new tech, new anything. Don't say to yourself, no, no, no, no, no, you know, I can't be bothered with that. Explore. You may enjoy it, you may gain for it from it, you know. So anything new, don't shut yourself to it. Explore, and then if you really don't like it, then fine, but at least you know, you haven't rejected. So, you know, new new trends, whether it's for work or you know, I think it's worth exploring.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

So that's that's one thing I would I would and I love what you said as well. Give yourself permission if it if it doesn't feel right, say, well, I've tried it and it's not for me, but at least you've tried it, and you're not sitting there going in 10 months' time, I wish I'd tried that, and and then that horrible, but now it's too late, and it's never really too late. But you we tell ourselves, don't we? Oh, and the small steps as well. It doesn't have to be um, you know, you're not gonna be brilliant at it straight away. Bear that in mind, yeah. And maybe, maybe 20 years ago, 30 years ago, god almighty, that's scary saying that, but yes, we learnt stuff really quickly. We picked stuff like you saying, you know, your languages when we were in our 20s, 30s, we were like, yes, done this, got this, yeah. Now we've got a brain that can be like a goodness knows what, a bowl of cabbage, and it might take us longer, it might take us longer, ladies. Yeah, it doesn't matter. We can go at your own pace, it's not a race, it's not, it's not a competition. Don't compare yourself to Gladys over there who's getting gold stars or whatever for being best in class. No, you're doing best for you. So because that can be if we don't if we try something new and we just oh, I just can't do this. Yeah, I can't can't do this. It's uh no, I know.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

I mean it it is even even a new sport or a new you know you the try and then see what happens, but you know, that's what it's all about, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

You need to and I do believe that if it was too easy, it's gonna be a little bit difficult to make you actually get that sense of achievement when you do manage to do it. Yes, that's gonna try something else.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Um, the thing second thing I had thought about is um get help, and we touched on that. Um, you're not alone, you know, you're never alone, really. And get help from other people, whether they're friends, women's groups, um, you know, training, um, you know, collaboration with people, it's the best thing you can do. Because you are sometimes alone when you know you can spend longer patches of time, you know, alone, but get help. And and it's actually really lovely that when you do get help, when you seek help and you get it, it's a really nice feeling, and it makes you want to help as well and be there for other people. Uh, and the third thing I had thought about, which is actually we we touched on that as well, is you you don't have to have everything worked out from the beginning. It's very good to have an objective in mind. I would like to be this, I would like to become a champion in tennis by the time I'm blah blah blah. You know, you can, yeah, but do it at your own pace, and nothing happens overnight, but enjoy the journey, enjoy what you're doing and celebrate every little step that you're achieving because it's worth it, it's worth it to to celebrate and and uh enjoy that.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

No, I absolutely love that because I'm a huge believer in you hear a lot, it drives me mad. Oh, it's about the destination, not the journey. It's about the destination, sell the destination, not the journey. And to me, I'd turn around and go, F that, it's not the destination, or it's the journey. Because A, the destination, it's like failure, really, flipping that around. The destination that we think we want, in actual fact, may A, we may never actually reach it because if we are constantly wanting to get more, to get more out of life, we're pushing the boundaries, we're we're changing things up. We don't want to get there and go, I'm there now, now what? But also the journey, the wonderful moments of of clarity, of confusion, of change, of excitement, of misery. Because as you say, you've got to have the ups and downs. Disappoint, yeah, disappointment, but delirium, all these different things that will be part of that journey. That part of it you'll be on your own, but part of it you'll be sharing it with loved ones, with new friends, with colleagues. Give me the journey, give me the journey. Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

It's your life, it's you know, it is what life is all about, you know, all those moments and all those, you know, those stopovers in your journey towards destinations. So, yes.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Right. I'm thinking now what next for me? I'm thinking, oh, all these things. Well, I've got the books coming as well. You're going to be in the book, it's very exciting. It's very exciting. Oh, I know, I know. Well, anyone listening, obviously, we're going to be sharing your contact details in a little while. And you've got your guest profile on the Midlife Unlimited podcast website, and all your contact details are in the show notes for the episode. But before we talk about how listeners can get in touch with you, how they can come into your world, how they can connect with you. You know what's coming. The three questions that I ask each of my fabulous guests. So you're not going to escape. If there's a little story behind them, even better. I don't have I'm not going to tie you down to one answer. If you if you're torn between one or two answers, share them with us. Share them with us, Natalie. So the first question is what is your midlife anthem?

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Okay, that I thought about this uh um a lot because there are so many good pieces of music, but I think I think the the one I've chosen is um man, I feel like a woman by Shania.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Oh with leopard print. With leop.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

I'm not a huge fan of country music, but this song in particular, you know, I think even if I had a temper high temperature and flew in bed or whatever, it makes me want to stand up and dance. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Yeah, oh, I like that. I really like it, you know, especially if I've been, you know, it's if I've come out of a two-hour session, you know, translation, you know, and my world is super quiet, and all of this. Suddenly putting this on, and I'm I'm fine, or you know, what oh yes, that that is a good one for energy, and it makes me dance, and I like dancing, and then you know, yes, I think I think that's the one.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Brilliant, and I don't think it's on the this playlist is coming, folks, as well. Fear not, fear not, but uh Ella, my my guest from last week, she she's saying, Come on, Kate, get on that. Yeah, and I'm amazed that we're approaching a hundred female guests now, and I think there's only been a couple of duplicates, which is yeah, which is quite amazing, really. That's you know, it's gonna be at least 90 songs, I think, there. Or not all songs, some are pieces of music. Um and Helen, yeah, Helen um in our how to go grey your way episode chose bird song. So that I need to find one of those old tweet, twit twit. Anyway, I'm digressing as I do, as I do, right? Bring me back, reel me back in. Question number two What is your midlife mantra?

SPEAKER_00 38:16

I'm going to tell you a little anecdote. When I started the uh learning English, I came into a classroom, and the teacher used still used you know, chalk on a blackboard, and he wrote the this sentence, this mantra on the board, and it said, Where there's a will, there's a way. And he turned to us after writing it, and he said, Where's there's a will?

SPEAKER_01 38:44

There's a way and I think I will never forget. What was his name? He was supposed to be our English teacher, and his French accent was over the you know, completely overwhelming. And and you know, since then I've been repeating to myself, Natalie, we're zilza, we're zilzaway.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

But you know, the the joyous thing about that, yeah, because it it's not just a great mantra, you've got that wonderful memory as well. And viewers, if you listeners, if you could see Natalie's face, she's got the most beautiful smile. And I can imagine if you were having a bit of a shit day, just by saying that to yourself, you've immediately just elevated your emotion. Oh, ah, see, that's that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Oh, I love that, I love that. Well, the final question before we share your details. I've been loving this. What is the title of your autobiography and what language is it going to be in?

SPEAKER_00 39:52

Right, okay. So, my autobiography was the hardest thing to think about because I've got several options. Um the one thing that I would probably write about uh is uh going from um is becoming visible when invisibility defines you. You know, because being a translator is being in the shadow of another person, the writer. And you are invisible, you know, no one knows your name, and you know, now things have changed, but you are this invisible person. And I think I've become more visible, not just since Alban's group and things, but you know, gradually over the years, it's probably what I would emphasize, you know, focus on on my autobiography. It's you know, becoming visible. I love that.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

And what a beautiful, beautiful story. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Oh yes, I mean, I think I think it is it is what I would like to write about because it works for my job, but it works for my life as well.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

It's about the woman. It's about the woman. And would it be in French or Italian or English? Or I mean I can write in English. You won't you won't need to pay anyone to translate it for you. It'll be available in all the languages. I love that. Well, the time has come, listeners, for Natalie to share how you can get in touch with her. I say all her details are on the show notes for this episode. But if you could talk me through and listeners through how they can find you and connect with you.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Okay, so I mean the easiest way uh to find me is on LinkedIn, and my profile is uh Natalie Reese Umslations. Well, Natalie Reese, and then Natalie Reese Translations for my business uh page. And my website is Natalie Reese Translations.com.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

And that's Natalie with a T H, isn't it? And how are we spelling Reese? R-E-I-S. Lovely. So go and connect with Natalie there. She's an absolute joy. This is an absolute joy.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

I'd love to have to meet up with you, connect with other women as well.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Brilliant, brilliant. Here's two, that visibility, getting together, supporting each other, and cheerleading. So, listeners, I'd love your feedback on today's episode. Were there any golden nuggets, any takeaways that you enjoyed? So it'd be fabulous if you could leave a review and help the algorithm or subscribe as well. Come on, show Midlife Unlimited some love. You can email or text me too via the link in the show notes and come and join the Facebook group. Again, the links in the show notes, where you'll find the website link to, where you can find out all about me, connect with me and get details of my one-to-one coaching and of course more. My all-in-one award-winning coaching program that combines one-to-one and group sessions, and there's no self-study because the feedback was people were women were finding it too overwhelming too much. So, no, we don't do that because we don't want overwhelm. Anyway, thank you for joining me, Natalie. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for listening. I look forward to you tuning in next week because don't forget Midlife Unlimited has a new episode every Thursday, and I mean every Thursday, and sometimes two, so there you go. Available wherever you listen to your podcasts. So here's to being fabulous and flourishing together and living midlife unlimited. Thanks, Natalie. It's been brilliant. Bye. Thank you, Kate. Bye.