Can Interior Design Change Your Confidence?

Can your home change the way you feel about yourself?

In this episode of Gal on the Prowl, Jessica Spawn sits down with Cesarina "Ces" Johnson, founder of House of Moxie, to explore how intentional design can transform more than just a room; it can transform your confidence, creativity, and everyday life.

With more than a decade of luxury interior design experience, Ces shares her journey from designer to entrepreneur, the meaning behind "moxie," and why every home should tell the story of the people who live there.

Whether you're renovating an entire house or simply looking to create a space that brings you peace, this conversation is packed with inspiration, practical advice, and reminders that beautiful design is about living authentically, not chasing perfection.

In this episode:

- What "moxie" really means
- Building a successful creative business
- Designing spaces with purpose
- Custom furniture and luxury interiors
- Confidence through your environment
- Why your home should reflect *you*

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:12

I'm Jessica Spawn and I hope this makes you smile. Let's frowl. Welcome to Gal on the Prowl. I'm your host, Jessica Spawn, and I have a really exciting guest today. She's in from all the way from Arkansas. Originally, she lives in Texas now. Um, Chesi Johnson. She has a really cool business called House of Moxie. And we're gonna dig into a little bit more about like why she named that, why Moxie's important to her, and what else she does. It's pretty exciting. Also, we're gonna talk a little bit about dating. So um, welcome, Chessie. Hi, thanks for having me. My pleasure. Yeah, we have an audience here. So if you all hear clapping, we're having more fun with some more eyeballs as we do the show. Oh, right? Ready? So we got some friends here. They're gonna see everything we say. So if we edit anything out, you won't know, but they will know what we said. So I'm excited. We wanted to start with a question though, because we we met at the cov we met at a Kava place, right? And um, you were talking to someone the other day about relationships, and then what did you bring up?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

You brought up something so I feel like in relationships or in life, uh there's a Sex in the City episode. Um Samantha Jones, if you know her, she's like the the most fearless one, the sassy one, and she says the true test of a relationship is if you're like this or if you're like this. And if you're like this, then that means that's probably not the relationship for you. And that also goes with life. If you're at a job where you feel like this, it's time to change it. You can change anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

It sounds so simple.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

I know. It really is though. I'm telling you. If you start thinking what makes me like this or the other way, then that's your answer.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

Okay, well, okay. Well, I want to talk about a lot of things, but but dating, maybe you let's start with that because we're talking about the frowny face and the smiley face.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

This will be a quick topic. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:06

You were dating recently using apps.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Yes, how's that going? So, I mean, I I'm uh gosh, there were some frowny face ones, so I decided to delete that altogether and just focus on myself, my friends, and if I meet somebody in the wild, cool, I'm open to it. But no more dating apps. So you're on the prowl. I'm really not on the prowl. She's not on the prowl. I'm not for a man, no, but you know. For business opportunities. For business opportunities.

SPEAKER_03 2:31

Which is what I named the show for mom and dad. I'm just kidding. To be clear. But yeah, okay, so so you deleted the apps, and you're focusing on you, which is perfect because this is a female empowerment podcast talking about Rise, Rebuilding, and Aurora. And I did want to mention something. So here's why it's so important to have community, which we'll talk about more later. But we were just sitting chatting at Kava the other day, and I was talking about the stuff that I'm going through financially, some challenges and whatnot. And I was like, gosh, I feel like there's a prequel to the Rise workbook. So that's the three like um pillars of yeah, of God on the pro. I'm creating workbooks, that'll become workshops and retreats or whatever, all that. And I was like, oh my god, it I'm living in it. And then I was like, I need, anyways, it's called Reckon. So I'm in reckon stage or reckoning. I don't know how we're gonna call it. I'm not changing Rise Rebuild Roar because I love it and it looks great on all my stuff. But there's gonna be a secret prequel that only it's an IYKYK situation, I guess. Because before you rise, you have to look at the mess. You gotta wreck. You gotta wreck and reckon with the wreck. It's slaughter W's and R's. Um, have you been there before? Like in the wreck and stuff? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

And I think what I'm what me and you really bonded on is like your authenticity and just how genuine you are about where you're at in your life, and that is part of it. Like we do want, you know, the the success, we want, you know, abundance, we want all of this. But to get there, I mean, life is messy and we have to go through like we have to wreck right through it sometimes. And that's what we bonded on is that we've been through some things, but we still have this dream, and nothing's gonna kill our sparkle. And so exactly that's why I'm just glad that I know you now. You're a true friend to me now. Holy same. Call the places and tell me. It's incredible, guys. You need to be.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

I know, make the best friends there. That's where I'm yep, love it. Um, and yeah, we bond, we just connect and bond. And I literally was talking to her a few months ago, and you know, she's got this house of Moxie, and the word moxie, I love it. And I was like, she seems so Moxie. Like, that's her. She's got Moxie. And I was like, Oh my gosh, she would be a great guest. And I literally was like, Do you want to be a guest on a podcast? And then she's like, or have I asked you if you've ever been a guest on a podcast.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Yes, and I was like, never done this. So let's see how we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

This will be fun, this will be great. So this is her first time, so take it easy on the show and make her feel good, guys. Then leave comments and you know, interact with us on YouTube and all the things. Ask us questions. Yeah, because we're gonna have some bots that you can think on to inquire about. So there. So, Moxie, what how did you get started? You've got a background in interior design. Yes. I liked your story. How you kind of work. Do you want to give a little Yeah?

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Let me, I'm gonna give like the shortest version I can of it. But House of Moxie, it's an interior design business in Dallas. In Dallas. Um, I'm originally from Arkansas, like you told them. And uh I went to college for interior design, and I was just so passionate about it. I mean, and that carried all the way to when I graduated. I started out working as like a design assistant for a well-known designer in Little Rock, but she took me to Dallas, and when I came here, I was like, oh my gosh, there's just so much more here. The big city. The big city. And I said, I'm moving, and she said, I shouldn't have taken you there. Jokingly, she's happy. Um, but and then ever since then. I just moved, and I didn't know a soul. I didn't even I walked into showrooms and just handed everybody my resume and a few called, and I took one, and it all started from there.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

That's wild. I love hearing that because it's so encouraging to hear. For anyone who's started a business or wants to start a business, it's not easy. You do have to take a wild leap of faith for sure. Like you have to be uncomfortable and be in that season of discomfort and then really yeah, pound the pavement to a degree. I mean, it looks different now. I mean, more social media or like web inquiries potentially, but old school, old school still works. I mean the in-person things.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Yes, it really lucked out for me because I I actually worked at three different full service interior design firms. Okay, and so that's what my firm is. It's a full service. Okay. I mean, anything interior design, remodels, new construction, new furnishings, all of it. Every project is different. So I worked at three other different full service design firms before going out on my own. And that's where I learned, you know, all the different business models, the way that you can run a project. And I one day, not one day, it was a buildup. Yeah, I knew it's time. Like I crave this more than anything. And I basically took the best of what worked and left what did it and created a really cool business out of it.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

I love that, and it's got a great name. Why did you pick Moxie?

SPEAKER_00 7:15

So somebody once told me, they said you have Moxie, and I was like, okay, I like that word. What does that mean? And Moxie, it just means it's it's it means you have like some nerve, you got a little bit of nerve, like good or bad, you know. I'm not afraid to push the boundaries a little, or you know, with my designs, I can, you know, in Dallas, I feel like you know, there is a certain look with a lot of the Dallas homes, which are beautiful. I have a big heart for it, it's where I come from. But I want to kind of push people a little bit more. Like, what colors, what patterns do you like? Let's let's not play it so safe. Like, let's get a little bold, or if there's a nook that you're not afraid to pour a little personality into, I'm gonna push them there. Yeah, and then when they do it, they are always happy. So it's just I bring that into my business and just kind of push people to do what they really want to do.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

That's amazing because people some I mean, a lot of times I feel like I don't know what I want. I know. Yeah, sometimes I need I need someone to guide me into my decisions because this stuff is overwhelming to me, not to you, because you love it. But um, so you just did a house I saw in Sir Social's what what are you on social media?

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Um House of Moxie Designs with an S at the end.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Designs, okay. Because I've been I follow her and she just posted one about this home and oh my god, the closet.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Oh yeah. Do you want to talk about it?

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Because I can throw that like video on link.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

So in Lakewood, that's actually where a lot of my projects are right now. And um this one was actually a spec home. So it's a it's a home that we're building. They bring in, there's a realtor involved, a builder, a designer, but we're gonna sell the home to a potential future homeowner. Um, and this one, the closet was really amazing. You know, they had the island with like the jewelry drawers, and there was also a special makeup area in this closet that when you open one of the drawers, it has like power for hot tools. Like every detail is thought out. Yeah, and whenever it's somebody's natural light, and the natural light came from the windows in the closet. And when it's somebody's personal home, like I'm building for them, I can get even more personalized. Yeah, I can design exactly for what they want for how they live.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

Well, it's funny because I would have never thought about that as a need or a want, but functionally it makes a lot of sense. So I appreciate that you're helping build homes that I can live in one day.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

Um, so you're from Arkansas. We we talked a little bit about um kind of like your childhood. Do you want to share a little bit more about um like this is big for you? Like for like this.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

I would love to talk about that.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Yeah, because I mean, inspire people. Like you came from a little and now you are able to sh be, you know, someone's inspires some people.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

So Yeah, I mean, I hope. I so I do. I come from a small town, Conway, Arkansas. I got a shout out to Conway. That's where I actually went to college. Okay. And so I called Conway College. University of Central Arkansas. UCA Bears. Um, but um, so I grew up, I mean, we did not have a lot of money. My mom was a single mom raising three kids, and you know, she did, she was incredible, my mom, you know, to do everything that she could do for us. Um, but we did luxury was not something I knew. It was not something I was familiar with. So when I moved here and I started working with like the first firms or, you know, the first designer even in Literac, they knew luxury, they lived luxury. I mean, I was very intimidated by that. And there were moments where I questioned, do I have to come from luxury to be able to design this level of luxury? And I think as as time grew on, I actually thought that that gave me a little bit of a different view on it. I think that I have like a brighter eyed perspective, and I see it from just a different lens than from somebody that has had it forever. These things feel a little bit more special to me, and I don't take it for granted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:05

So you probably bring some of that energy into the project.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Yeah. I'm very, I'm very, I feel like, you know, I do, I am very professional, of course, but I mean, I also like my for my clients become some of my good friends, and you know, you always gotta set boundaries. That's actually something I'm really, really working on. But I mean, I these are their homes, and there's something very personable that I find with every client that I take on. You know, it's their home I'm walking through and designing, it's their sanctuary, and that's an honor. So that is an honor. You gotta be real with them. You got you know, you gotta just bring in some genuine and you know, just be yourself. Some moxie. You gotta be yourself because who else are you gonna be? And if somebody doesn't like it, okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Yeah, you're lost. That's a great way to do life. I love that. Because you've been extra busy and you've been like having to turn people down recently, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Well, well, I don't even know. I feel like I've just been and I see what's so funny. Whenever people say like you networking or they call it like mentoring, I'm like, ugh, that's not what I'm doing. Uh if it feels like authentic, I mean there are probably people in Kava that I've been talking with about businesses, but I feel like that's just normal convo. That's how I have to treat it.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

Well, both to me. I feel like for me, really honestly another version of hanging out with people or getting to know people and building their relationship because you're kind of in it for the long game. And the relationships are what keep you having clients over time because they know people who know people who referrals. Yeah. Yes. Referrals are the best. They are. Um oh, side note, and this is just me talking about me for a second. Please. Um vacation kitten. I have to say this because this happened yesterday, which will be a few weeks from now when this happens, but when this airs, the vacation kitten. We um, so my co-author and I, um, we were winner of the children's picture book soft cover category for the International Book Awards. That's incredible. You go, girl. So I went and brag on myself and my co-author and my illustrator, because that's huge. And you know what is interesting? When I did my book in 2017 and I I put it in the same competition, Christmas Kitten. It was a finalist. And so honestly, I didn't even think about winning when I put this in. Yeah, right? Like I know, yeah. I thought, well, if Christmas Kitten was only a finalist, then this like I capped it mentally. Like, but then I don't know, it's I'm trying to reopen my mindset again to like endless possibilities. So like, why not go for the top thing? Like, why settle for like thinking it's gonna be a finalist when it could be a winner? Like, I don't know, I'm back in the rise, rebuild, roar, and but I'm wrecking, I'm gonna wrecking work. I'm re I'm reliving all the stages, I guess. But um, yeah, okay. Well, we're gonna go to a commercial break. When we come back, we're gonna talk more about all of our fun projects. Okay, and yeah, stay tuned. Hey, it's Jessica Spawn here with Gal on the prowl, and I have an amazing sponsor for the show this year. I'm so excited to announce that we have Kava Culture Louisville.

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SPEAKER_02 14:45

I say this is an experience.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Yeah, it's an experience. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. Welcome back to Gal on the Prowl, where we rise, rebuild, and roar. I was talking to Chesi during the commercial break. And well, first of all, she's got a cool hat now because she's one of she's one of the what are we calling this? A prowler? Are you a prowler? Oh, yes. Is that a thing? Are we making that a thing?

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Oh, let's make it a thing.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

Okay, so she's a prowler now. She's in the club. Um we're talking about manifesting in just like different life stages. So I wanted to talk more, hear more about what you believe and how you feel like um that unfolds, I guess, for you mindset and whatnot and beliefs.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Yes. So I I believe, and honestly, what what you were talking about earlier clicked in my mind and made me think about this was that really anything you want in life, anything. I'm talking to anything, the craziest thing that you can think of, you can have it. I'm good with anything. Any of us, any of us can you could literally have it. I'm good at it. But what it's gonna take is manifest. It's gonna take man boxing manifestation. You have to start like looking around and seeing those opportunities, and then it really starts happening. Yeah. Like I'm not just saying it, don't like it won't happen to me. No, it can happen. I agree. You just have to take the steps, and that's just manifestation. It's not magic, it's action.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

It is action, and I like that you're saying this because that is completely true. When I got divorced in 2016, and that first year of my divorce, I literally did a film that won a competition, went to Paris the next year. My first kid's book came out, I got my first client, and I like just hit the ground running with like a mindset of possibility, and like and I was working on a feature film, and I had just yeah, I was just like going all in, and I was like believing anything was possible, you know. Because it is it is, but sometimes in life we get a little discouraged or we get kind of off track, and then it's it's a little hard to get back our mindset back on track.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Do you have advice when you have you been down and needed to get like yes, how does that I feel like I mean, I think that there can be seasons of depression, and I think that that can mean that your body just needs a deep rest. And whenever you're in that mode and you can't get out, I think that you just need to lean in to the rest. Okay, because your life is about to go the other way, it's like our body knows before us. Yeah, so just listen to your body is is what I do and not feel bad about it. Don't feel bad about it because you're about to do so much, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Because you never know, and you can again and then you didn't know rest again for years.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I mean, honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Or ever. Forever. So rest. I love that advice. Okay, so we're talking about her projects, and she's a product a lot of um I don't know what you even call this stuff. Tiles and things and fabrics and home. So yeah, do you want to like pair things or pretend I'm like a perspective? Yes, yeah. Like, what do we want to do? Do you want like help me? Help me. I don't know what I'm doing, and I'm buying a home, and I don't know what to do. Help me.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Yeah. So, really, first, so this is just an example here on the table of the colour. I like the colors though.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

You're already on brand for me.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah, I know, and this is on brand for me too. I knew that these were gonna work for us. So, see, I read the audience. Yeah, but I mean, there's many steps before I even get to this point. But at this point, there's typically a design presentation where I have like, you know, a TV up with a presentation of what the room's gonna be like. I have tear sheets with like the item description, drawings, I do the architectural drawings and all that. But this is the stuff on the table that people really love. They want to touch the materials for sure. They want to see the color, they want to see what the paint's gonna look like with the gold hardware, with the go in a wall. Yeah, it's actually gonna go on a fireplace. There's a project in Keller that we're in Keller. And see, the things that designers think about are this tile, it's super, super thick. There's like wrapping around the fireplace, and we have a we have an undercounter fridge on the right. Like there's all these things I think about for the spacing and because this is a crazy looking tile. It's not just selecting it and putting on.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

It's three, it's like very there's a lot more than just that tile.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

I gotta do a drawing and make it where it's gonna be functional in a space. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:53

So that is awesome.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

So and then fabrics and tiles and hardware, paints, all of it. So, like, is this like a backsplash? That could be a backsplash. It could also be, I mean, if you really want to get fun, it could be a mosaic floor on a powder bath, or I mean, anywhere. I feel like I want a home now, but I love that tile. Artistic title is a good one.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

One of my three million dollar homes that I own. I mean, make it happen, right? I love that. That is gorgeous. Um, what's your favorite project that you've ever done? Oh my gosh. You sure?

SPEAKER_00 19:28

I don't even know if I can tell because people will be like, what? What about why?

SPEAKER_03 19:32

What is that project you enjoyed?

SPEAKER_00 19:33

I will tell you this. I'll tell you this. Actually, so not all of this that's here, but some of this is actually the project you picked up one of the samples in uh Keller. Yeah. And this client, I mean, not all clients like you do this, but I asked her in our concept meeting, okay, tell me what you want. Do you want these colors? Do you want this? Do you want this? And most people have a vision which I get and I honor it. However, she was like, whatever you want. And I was like, girl, say less. And I got to design something really, really, really cool for her. Oh my gosh, that's so fun. It's in the works, and you know, we're the products starting to get ordered and the tiles installers, we got to order things. It's it's about a year process or so.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

So people have to have patience.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Yes, yes, and they do they typically do. We'll we're working our hardest, so yeah, to get it as quick as possible.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

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SPEAKER_00 20:39

We loved it. Yes, we're huge fans.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

We're bit so we're we're kava girlies, and that's kind of where we hang out and do work.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Um that's how we met. And then so I wanted to talk about community and how important that is. Like for me, I'd been sober two years before I found the kava world, and it gave me my social life back. Like, I'm such a social person, and I have so much energy, and I love connecting, and that charges me up. And I was kind of like an autopilot and just not not living with a spark, the spark that I like, I wasn't lit, you know. I was just doing my I was sober, I was working, I worked out, I was working on projects, but like I didn't have what I have now with community when I go in and you make all these friends and you have all these friends and then you do life with people. Yes. Um, like how did you find covet? Like, how what was your experience and all that too?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Like so actually, so I'm actually not even I'm not sober. Yeah, you don't have to be sober. You don't have to be sober. But I actually prefer kava and over drinking. So, you know, you don't get hangovers, all of that. But how I actually found it was I it was a first date, you know, one of those dates that actually turned into a relationship, this one. But um our fur he was sober, and our first date was at the kava that I met you at. And uh I just was like, This is so interesting. Yeah. And then after me and him broke up, super weird. No, awesome. Awesome. It was different. It wasn't like a I don't remember my first time, and I was like, Well, I'll tell you this. I remember I was like, these people are just so nice. Yeah, I know, right? Everybody is really nice and they've been through a lot. Everybody's been through a lot, and I've had the conversations I don't think I would ever have if I didn't continue going to this place and meet people that I wouldn't have met. Yeah. And now I go a few times a week and I work, and sometimes I hang out. We do karaoke. I know, right? It's really fun. I feel like now we have to do a karaoke so I can throw it in the edit. I'm a terrible singer. You don't want it, but that's okay. But hey, I'll give you a music tonight.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

I mean, okay.

unknown 22:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

It is karaoke night. I know. If you're watching this on a Friday, just to be clear, as we're sitting here on a Friday, North Dallas Kava Bar has karaoke on Fridays. So that's where you'll usually find us. And if nothing else, like I like to just go, that's my favorite night to go there because to like not work. Like I leave my laptop and just goof around with people. I like to run up and get content and like hype other people up, you know, who are singing, kind of sing with them, like you know, Kai and whatnot, get some fun videos and you know, add to the vibe, I guess, of the evening. Um, and it really lifts my spirits. And every time I walk in there on a Friday night, I'm just like kind of giddy. And it just makes me feel so much happier when I leave, you know? Even if I hadn't had Kava, just like being there.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

I know, it's amazing. So much fun and I've made some of my new best friends are from the Kava community. Yes, you're one of them.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

I feel so special. Um, because I am and you are and I love this. Um, okay, let me think. Is there anything else you want to talk about? You you've got a website people can go to.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

What is it? House of Moxiedesigns.com. House of Moxie Designs. So everything, so is House of Moxie Designs everything on social? Everything, yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Even though my business is House of Moxie, it was taken. So I'm not sure. You have to adapt. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

And I think that's a great pivot. And it actually helps, I think, explain more about what you're doing as a designer.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Exactly. Yeah. Already.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

Like, you know what I mean? House of Moxie is a little mysterious. Yes. Love it, but at least there's some more clarity. So maybe it was meant to be. So people understand what you are when they're looking for you. Um, because they need a designer. That's awesome. And uh, how do you find some of your clients? Like, you obviously you said you work with some builders.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Do you how do you find clients actually?

SPEAKER_00 24:24

So honestly, actually, the so all referrals, it's all been referrals. And like a builder, it all started with the builder, introduced me to a client, and then they introduced me to their friends, and then and then the spec jobs that people walk through, they're like, Oh, I need a house who designed this one. I might not want to buy this one, you know. Yeah, I want to do my own thing. It's all been just word of mouth, 100%. Which is awesome.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Could you have envisioned this 10 years ago?

SPEAKER_00 24:51

No, no. I knew I wanted something like this, but I couldn't, I was surprised how fast it was happening. And I it's it feels so right, it feels so real. Like it's it's kind of an extension of myself, and I think that's what makes it easy. But I'm just I'm very proud of it. I love it. It's my baby.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

I know, I love that, and that's why I mean I was talking with her and I was like, oh my gosh, you have to be on the show because like she's so passionate, and that's like what I want to impart to other female business owners or just anyone doing life, right? Just to find something they're excited about and to find that fire and just live there, like let that stay lit, you know what I mean? Um, because it's hard, it's harder when you go through those phases where you do lose your spark or your sparkle. Yeah, um, and it does take intention and a little bit of time and effort to get it back. Yeah, and a mindset shift kind of. Um, so I like that you're speaking to people who maybe are going through stuff that can look ahead and this is how many two years?

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Two years in August. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Almost this isn't like, I mean, this isn't like 10 years. I mean, things can happen fast.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

I know, and just and I'm just getting started. Like this is the the stuff that I have that I want, and it takes the right clients and the projects and just people knowing who I am, but this is just the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

I love this. This is so exciting. Hopefully, do you want to say anything to anyone to encourage people? Like anything else besides what you've just already said?

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Yes, I mean, uh so just like to to and as in to your design or just people in general, or um yeah, just kind of like seeing all that. I mean, honestly, I think if if you take away anything from me is whatever makes your heart beat, whatever it is, or if there's that thing that you feel special about, it's there for a reason. And that thing, if you the more you explore it, the more you show it, you go after it, it does something good to other people too. And then this and then it's a ripple effect. Yeah. So the more we do it, I really just think that it's the world is a better place. You can do what you love, and you're kind to humans.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

Yeah, and you're serving, you're serving in the capacity that you're meant to serve.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Yes, be good people, yeah, be good people and do what you love. I love it and leave out the rest. That's so simple.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

I love it. Okay, so have some moxie designs. If you want to find me, you probably already found me if you're watching this. But just in case. Galantheprowl.com and all the platforms at gal and the prowl. Um, I just I don't know, it's funny sometimes when you're doing a show, you're like, oh, but you're probably already watching the show. So you never know. You never know, but to tell your friends and then hit the little notification bell, subscribe and f you know, all the buttons. Hit all the buttons if you're watching this. It's that, and then send it to your friends. It's that simple. Inspire someone, send this to inspire someone today. Um, so okay, I'm gonna close this out with my thing, and then we're gonna do another thing. Okay. So I wanted to encourage you to stay encouraged, stay hopeful, stay colossum. And then we're going to rise, rebuild, and roar.