Divergent States

Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.

Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.

This isn’t a spiritual podcast.
This isn’t a marketing platform.

No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.

We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.

Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.

Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.

If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.

If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.

New episodes every two weeks.

Podcasting since 2024 • 33 episodes

Divergent States

Latest Episodes

Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

Psychedelics don’t fix your life.They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come back.In this episode, we sit down with Talia Eisenberg from B...

May 05, 2026 • Season 2 • Episode 8 • 56:40

Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication?In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Steve ...

April 21, 2026 • Season 2 • Episode 7 • 55:54

Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three

This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca.By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn’t any of those things.

April 06, 2026 • Season 2 • Episode 6 • 49:58

Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two

The Many Faces of Coca – Part TwoIn Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the science behind the coca leaf.Part One foc...

March 16, 2026 • Season 2 • Episode 5 • 1:04:41

Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One

In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years became globally criminalized.This conversation isn’t ab...

March 02, 2026 • Season 2 • Episode 4 • 1:01:55