How to Find Your Voice at Any Age (with Kenya McGuire Johnson)

Ever feel like there’s a version of you that’s still waiting to be heard?

This week on A Beautiful Fix, I sit down with my dear friend Kenya McGuire Johnson—a woman who didn’t just reinvent her life… she reimagined it from the inside out.

Kenya went from physical therapist to Billboard-charting singer-songwriter, astrologer, retreat leader, and holistic coach—all after 40. Her story is living proof that your voice doesn’t come with an expiration date—and your next chapter might be your best yet.

From the soul-shaking power of retreats to the magic of trusting your inner whispers, this episode is packed with truth, laughter, healing, and heart. If you’ve been feeling the nudge toward something new (even if you can’t name it yet), this one’s for you.

Kenya shares how she:

• Followed the tiniest breadcrumb toward her dream
• Let go of the “how” and leaned into the why
• Uses astrology, music, and sisterhood to help women reclaim their truth
• Navigates midlife with curiosity, clarity, and a whole lot of courage

Whether you’re stuck, stirred, or starting over—this conversation is a love letter to possibility. Your permission slip to go for it.

Episode Highlights:

00:00 – Meet Kenya McGuire Johnson

00:38 – From physical therapy to soulful artistry

01:58 – What it really means to find your voice after 40

06:44 – The retreat that cracked her wide open

14:27 – Facing fear, doubt & reinvention head-on

17:30 – How astrology helped Kenya come alive

26:54 – Gen X wisdom and unlearning people-pleasing

33:39 – What Kenya’s son taught her about quitting

34:13 – Music as medicine

35:57 – When performance feels powerful… and when it doesn’t

38:35 – Becoming an astrologer (and owning her magic)

40:57 – Demystifying astrology and why it’s not just “woo”

45:42 – Planning a retreat in Bali

50:56 – What women are really searching for

52:54 – Embracing midlife as your most expansive chapter

57:56 – Kenya’s rapid-fire favorites (plus a surprise vocal moment 🎤)

Stay Connected with Kenya

• Main Website for Astrology, Coaching, and Retreats: FindingYourVoiceAfterForty.com
• Instagram (for fun & social updates): @kenyamjmusic

Proudly sponsored by Confident by Nature—helping women rediscover their true selves through nature, sisterhood, and retreats. 🌿
confidentbynature.com

Want More?

Ready to feel more alive and aligned? Grab my free guide, Finding Your Beautiful Fix: Simple Shifts to Rediscovering Your Inner Power !

Sign up for Thought Gems at abeautifulfix.com—your weekly inspiration to help you reset, reconnect, and rediscover what’s possible.

Support the Show

💕 Love this episode? Follow & leave a quick review—it helps others find A Beautiful Fix!

💬 Join the conversation on Instagram & Facebook @ABeautifulFix or find me on LinkedIn: Tracy Hill. Have a thought to share? Reach me directly at abeautifulfix.com.

🎙️ Know someone who should be a guest? Let’s chat! Reach out at Tracy@abeautifulfix.com.

Transcript

A Beautiful Fix Podcast: Episode 12-How to Find Your Voice After 40 (with Kenya McGuire Johnson)

[00:00:00] 

Welcome back to a Beautiful Fix. Today I get to sit down with someone who has reimagined every part of her life in the most inspiring way.

My guest and friend Kenya McGuire Johnson, is the definition of a midlife reinvention. She's gone from being a physical therapist to becoming a singer songwriter and international touring artist whose music hit the top 40 billboard charts and climbed to number one on the UK soul chart in London.

She's recorded with Grammy nominated saxophonist. Gerald Albright collaborated [00:01:00] with India Arie's bass player Kari Cabral, and worked with producers known for their work with CC Winans. 

But that's not all. Kenya is also an astrologer, an astrology guidance coach, a certified holistic health coach, and I'm out of breath.

The founder of Finding Your Voice After 40, a transformational platform and podcast that helps women embrace the magic and mess of midlife and step into the next version of themselves with clarity and courage. Her podcast returns this fall and in June, 2025, she's hosting her third international cultural Immersion retreat in Bali.

She also founded Art Voices Matter, a virtual space that supports the health and wellness of artists. And if that wasn't enough, she serves as assistant professor and director of Student Development and Holistic wellbeing at Rush University in Chicago. Kenya is one of my dearest friends, and [00:02:00] in this episode we're going to talk about what it means to truly find your voice after 40.

How she followed a deeper calling to reimagine her life and how astrology music and soul work helped her come alive and a whole new way. So get cozy. This one's full of truth, transformation and some serious heart. Welcome Kenya. Oh my gosh. Thank you, Tracy. I, I'm like, oh my gosh. That's a lot. But thank you.

You've done it all. Done it lot. So well, let's, let's just start unpacking 'cause there's, there's a lot for us to just Wow. You. Let's just need two hours. Tracy, you're we do, you're one hour. Yeah. Nothing. It's so funny 'cause I start off saying my podcast is gonna be short, it's gonna be like 15 minutes, and they keep getting longer and longer.

But these stories are just so beautiful. They need to be told. So let's just start here. When someone asks, what do you do? How, how do you answer that question these days, Kenya, [00:03:00] um, these days I typically say, you know, I'm a, a holistic coach, a holistic coach, and an educator or assistant professor. I usually bring it down to those two.

Um, if I'm just kind of meeting. But if I'm in a space where I'm really, I, I say a healer because I think the common thread outta all the things that I've done is all about healing. Mm-hmm. So it, it just kind of depends on the context, who I'm talking to. Um, but healer feels really good. Feels really good.

Mm. Well, I mean, take us back to, I mean, you've lived so many creative lives already, but like when was the moment when you knew you were being called to, to something new? Yeah, so, you know, I, when I went to college, um, and I went to Howard, I went to Howard University. I always have to get a shout out to Howard.

So [00:04:00] HE Yes. Um, I started college, you know, all through all my elementary and everything was all, I was very involved in the arts, arts, arts, arts, arts, arts. But in the background, I was always good in science and math and back in, you know, this is me going to college in the nineties. And so, um. I, I just didn't know.

I knew my calling was to do something creative, but I didn't see it playing out in that normal day-to-day life. I, you know, my father was actually a musician, but he was, you know, a more amateur musician. And so he didn't do it to make money, and so I just didn't see it. I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to, I didn't know that.

What, what did he play? My dad's a drummer. He's a drummer. Yeah. Really? Wow. So I grew up Yeah. Heavily with, with music and, you know, I started reading liner notes. I know I could read many Ripper ten's liner notes, and she died when I was four or five. So I think that was one of my first ways of even reading was liner notes.

But, so I was always feeling the, the tug of, of art and arts, [00:05:00] but I didn't see it. So I just ignored it and I went with the safe route, which was, I was always pretty good in math and science. And so that's what I did. And so it really, honestly, I think Tracy, it was when I had my kids, um, which was in my thirties.

I have two sons and when they, when I had my second son, I was like, what have I done? They'll do that to me and not for them. They were, you know, they're amazing, amazing humans and you know, they're wonderful, you know, babies, toddlers, you go through the thing, but you really, for me it was like, what life have I created?

'cause this life doesn't really feel like me. It feels like me to have kids, but something. So I would say it was my mid thirties where I really was like, okay, something's gotta give, I gotta make some changes. Um, and at that point I was still doing, um, physical therapy kind of part-time. And I was, um, teaching, I was in [00:06:00] education.

So how did you go from physical therapy and education to international music stages? How, how does one make that leap? Right. You know, this is it, it's so spiritual, Tracy. It's so, I think, you know, I could give the actual steps, but is when I started listening to the pool, you know, and stop, you know, and I needed help for that.

Um, I was doing therapy. My therapist was, you know, I also have a master's in counseling and we didn't add that all in there. Oh my gosh. But I knew the, I knew the importance of, of therapy. Um, so I was like, well, lemme go to a therapist and see if I can unpack this. And it kept, music kept coming up, but I just didn't see it.

So, long story short, I did a spiritual retreat and this is why, and we'll talk later about retreats, why retreats are so important to me. It's not just, I know a lot of people are doing retreats and it's feels sometimes trendy, like the thing, but. A [00:07:00] retreat is what changed my life. It literally, and I heard your episode about your experience, and I was like, yes.

When you have a quality retreat experience, it can literally change your life. And it changed my life. Absolutely. And it opened me up to, to teach me, and it gave me tools to start trusting this, this inkling, this instinct I was having inside. And not to get caught up in I'm, I'm just referencing all your episodes in the how 'cause I heard you talk about that too.

Not getting caught up in the how of things, but getting more caught into just what is the desire? And just follow the breadcrumbs. Just follow the breadcrumbs. Just follow it. And I had no, no goal of. The touring internet. I mean, that was never on the forecast. I was like, if I could just sing at a Starbucks, like if I could just like have like just a moment in a coffee shop that [00:08:00] felt like Hollywood, like if I was, if I would be able to accomplish that.

And once all that got surpassed, you know, performing, starting to perform at local venues and stuff, it just, I, I just kept following the breadcrumbs and every breadcrumb. Just kept throwing out. And I, you know, I wouldn't, I didn't say no to the breadcrumbs. I just, I I only said no if it felt off, but yeah.

Okay. Can I have to stop you there? Because you just said so many things. I wanna go back and my memory's so short. So lemme tell you what I wanna cover. I wanna go back to the retreat. Mm-hmm. And I wanna help people understand, really, if you can put words to it. 'cause I know I struggle to put words. You really, it's so experiential, so immersive.

You really have to go through it yourself. But if you can kind of tell us that moment or what it was about the retreat. Um, and then I think what is key, what I want people to really hear what you said is you did not necessarily see it. Mm-hmm. But you. [00:09:00] Started it. It's the action, it's the, you become it once you say it.

And once you start taking the action and that leads to something else, which leads to something, it's really, it's rarely just this laid out map. You do this and this is gonna happen. But I, and I, so I wanna find out what the retreat, but I also wanna ask, you said that you didn't see the, the singing part, but really like Kenya.

Did you have it in your heart where you kind of, maybe you were afraid of it, but you always wanted it, but you just didn't say it out loud or let yourself, so those are my things. Let's unpack. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think with the music, I just didn't let myself dream that big. Sure. Like I didn't, it just felt way too, it just felt.

Very un I mean, I am to my astrology, I, I am a Capricorn moon. That's important because our moon is how we feel. And Capricorn, I know you're a Capricorn son, they're very [00:10:00] Capricorn practical. Like, you gotta, yes, let me see the steps. And I didn't see the steps, so it just didn't even, it would be like saying, oh, do you see the pig across?

I was like, no, I don't. I don't see the pig. Like it's not there. Yes. So, so yeah. So I, I don't even know what, what, but anyway, I didn't, I didn't see it and so I had to feel it. What did you ask me as far as the music part? I, I was about to jump to the retreat, but I wanna No, I just wanted to say, if you really think back, is that true that you didn't see it?

Or did you Oh, yeah. Always kind of know it was there, but you just didn't allow you to feel that. Yeah, I just, I, I felt it, um, spiritually and that's will tie me kind of to the retreat. I felt something, I didn't see it, so I didn't believe it. Okay. Um. What the retreat did though, and this was what was so phenomenal about this retreat, and this was a one-on-one, this was not a group, um, community type of deal.

This was a very in, um, [00:11:00] intensive. Um, and I'm happy to share 'cause they, I, I refer people to them all the time. Um, it's called Sedona Soul Adventures. And they, they literally spend an hour of free consultation just trying to understand you and what is the common fabric, what is the issue, what's the concern?

And you know, so they create this very spiritual experience for you. And so. Doing that work one-on-one with healers for a full week was incredibly intense. And what they did was they taught me tools of how to hear, hear the spirit, how to, to tap into it, and then to trust it. And how to not let the ego get in the way and then take the action.

Because for me, the action was getting blocked. 'cause my human self was like, I don't see it. I don't this, but the soul is like, well, it's right there, you know? And I, I, I didn't, so learning how to make those two, they, they were teaching [00:12:00] me they need to do a dance. Your soul and your ego, your ego is your human, not egotistical, but you're human.

They need to learn how to do a dance. They need each other. You can't just go with soul. You can't just be about ego, but learn the dance and allow, and, and, and that visual I've always kept in my head, which is why I think I've just tried all these different things because I've learned that I'm gonna learn something, you know, and I'll, you know, it either stick or, or it won't stick.

And I've learned to trust when the soul is kind of pushing me. And sometimes I realize, oh, the ego is kind of overworking. But yeah, no, the, so, so the retreat was, it was, it was intense, like you said. It's hard to put in words. Mm-hmm. But I will say every session got me closer and closer to, um, understanding myself as a soul.

And I had always done astrology since I was a little girl. And, um, I kept it to myself. I didn't 'cause mm-hmm. I knew a lot of people didn't. [00:13:00] Accepted and in fact demonized it and mm-hmm. Really were very critical of it, so I just would keep it for myself. And that retreat I was able to meet with a shamanic astrologer, which was, and it just blew my brain apart because I was like, this is what I knew about myself.

I knew this about me, and I knew I was a different bird, and he was able to show me, yeah, you're a different bird and this is why. And when I saw that, that gave me even more courage. It did. It was like, okay, I'm, I'm different and it's okay. So yeah. You, you're the second person that's mentioned specifically as shamanic astrologer.

I'm gonna have to, to look into that more. I'm the same way. I always love astrology and I don't know why. I can't pinpoint why. 'cause my parents weren't into it. My godmother was, but I only talked to her about it, you know, here and there. But I've always been drawn to it. But the same thing. I started talking to people as I got older and they demonized it.

I, I couldn't even make the [00:14:00] connection between the two. Um, so I completely, completely relate. So can you, what, so you went on the retreat in this kind of broke, you open a little bit and showed you something that was there. How did you, what kind of internal resistance came up? Mm-hmm. If, if any, or fears of the, at the idea of leaving this more traditional career path and moving into something.

Yeah, completely unique. I mean, every fear you could think of really. I mean, I think the biggest thing for me was, um, I grew up doing a lot of music, but I hadn't done it in so many years, and it was like, am I good enough? Like to kind of do this now? Like I, you know, I haven't sang in front of people in a really long time since I was in college.

I haven't, you know, and nobody knows me as this. I think that was probably one of the biggest fears is that I had built so many relationships, including a whole marriage without. [00:15:00] People really knowing this me and meaning that creative and free spirit and out of the box. And, um, and so the, the, the most wildest thing I think I had done that I thought people would know that made me equal is different with my hair was natural then, I mean, but outside of that I was like, you know, they don't really know more than my hair.

You know, so that was a probably one of the biggest barriers was this people pleasing crap that I was so stuck in. And I'm like, if I jump out like this, they're gonna be like, what the, you know? Um, and you know, I met you when I was not doing the music initially. That's right. And so, um, it was just scary that, that was probably my biggest fear though, was how will, how will it get accepted and am I still good enough at this point to do it?

Absolutely. I can fill that in my bones. I think that's what most of us who build a career [00:16:00] or a life as this person and you've got this other person inside of you, the judgment, what will people think? And when I hear it in my sons, I just wanna shake 'em. 'cause I'm like, you get this one life, go live it.

But then I think, Tracy, are you even, are you even listening to yourself? Are you doing that? But can you, it's so cool to, to unpack this conversation with you because I feel like I've had a front seat to this story. I'm, I'm asking the questions to bring out your story for the listeners. Right. But. I remember the whole arc.

You know, I remember first hearing that you were a singer and um, that we were gonna go listen to you sing. And I'm nervous. I have this thing about me. I get really nervous for performers. You would think that I am gonna have to go on stage, but if I go to a concert, when I go to see Lenny Kravitz, I am so like, oh God, he's gonna come out in 10 minutes.

I don't know why I do that. I get so when I went to go see you, I remember sitting in the audience and it was filled with [00:17:00] all of your friends and family were all waiting. And you came out on that stage and as the young kids would say, you ate you. It was so beautiful. You, and to watch someone step into.

To own something like that and just step into it fully. You looked confident. Your voice is absolutely beautiful. Um, my boys still talk about being in your home. Yes. And hearing you record. Um, I can't help it by Michael Jackson Uhhuh. Oh my gosh. You don't touch Michael's songs, but you, the way you reimagine it, your voice.

Oh, it went to like, it was just beautiful. So anyway, yeah. It's been so inspirational and I would watch you as I was sitting kind of in my corporate job, longing to do something, you know, different and think that Kenya, she is doing it. Every time I saw you, it was Yes. And I'm doing this, and now I'm doing this.

And yeah. So thank you. Thank you for You're welcome. For showing us the [00:18:00] path. Well, it's, it's, thank you for that. And you know, you have always, you and John, I mean John, your husband was actually very pivotal. Very pivotal. And. Uh, a very critical part of my journey and I don't know if we have time for that, but he Yes.

Deserves so much kudos. Um, but two things. That thing that you said, you would look and you were in your corporate position. So before, before I did that retreat, the trigger that got me to the retreat, 'cause there was, you know, there was a lot of triggers that had to get me there. Mm-hmm. Um, it was 'cause I was, I was doing the counseling and I know I needed more, but I, I didn't know what, but one of the things that really pushed, I had a myriad of things going on personally, but.

There, and you, this is another kind of friend in our community, but, um, I don't, Carla, Dr. Carla Watson. Anyway, she's a physician, but she's also a dancer. And she started a dance school with her, you know, her friend. And the two of them started this dance school. And when they did the opening, I wasn't [00:19:00] doing anything music at this time, nothing.

But I was sitting there and I watched, I'm like, she's a doctor, but she's able to start a whole dance school. And I literally like, went home crying because I'm like, what am I doing? Why haven't I, she's doing it. So you just never know how people are watching your light. And she always like, is, she's always like, I can't believe that happened.

I'm like, yeah, no, I, that really, I was crying because I knew I was so disappointed in myself for not, you know, at least trying, you know, so, um, so yeah. But your husband, oh my god, John. Who's so amazing. I hope you bring him on your show. 'cause he's quite the guy thought of that. You really should. He's, he's super, super inspirational.

I don't even know how we got to the point, but all I will say is this. John was willing to say, Hey, what is it that you want in your music career? And, 'cause I was at this weird tie where I was tired of doing local stuff and I [00:20:00] really wanted to get international and John and I spent an entire summer, like once a week I would come to your house and you were working your corporate job.

And I think he was watching the boys and he's at the pool. And we would sit and just map out this life as an artist how I wanted this to look, how and what I needed and how I envisioned things. And it was from there that he connected me to a person who was extremely pivotal in getting me introduced to these producers abroad that sent it going.

So John is, was a key to that. He really was John. Is, um, first of all, he's one of your biggest fans. I just love him like that is John, through and through. He is truly a connector. I dunno if you've read Malcolm g Gladwell's book, he is naturally a connector. That's what he does. And from a human design standpoint, um, he, and I'll talk about human design and other episodes, but his energy type is, he's a projector and projectors, they [00:21:00] can see and guide other people's energy, which is exactly what he does.

I mean, when he meets people, he just, it's a very, his aura is very penetrating. Yes. He sees into you, it's like you're the only person in the room, and that's all he does. He, he, he, he meets people. He instantly thinks they need to talk to so and so. Yes. So I'm, yes. It was just, I mean, I, I, I, it was so powerful and I just hope he realizes how grateful I am to him for that, because he saw things Yeah.

That I couldn't, again, couldn't really see and, um, cued for wanted, but, so yeah. So that, that was, that was music. And, uh, you know, I did music full time. I dropped once I, once you have a win, and I think this is important for people to hear who are scared also to, to make these shifts. When you experienced the win, the WIN win.

Then it, it's not so scary anymore when it's time to kind of make these pivots and these changes because you realize, okay, I [00:22:00] felt the win before I, I can make this. And you've also felt the lose. So, you know, and the lose really isn't really a lose. It's for me, it's not, it's not really a lose. It's a, it's a like, oh, okay.

You know, and you may need, you know, certain losses require greater tenacity later or greater rest or greater whatever. But, you know, the wins are so powerful or they have been for me. So that's why I've just kept taking these leaps of faith that have led, led me in, in a lot of spaces at this point. Yeah, you are so right.

And you can't lose. The only way you can lose is by not trying at all, is by letting that voice, that fear, hold you back and, and prevent you from starting at all. Yeah. Um, but, you know, it's, it's powerful. I wonder if you realize how many lives you've touched by showing up and doing what you do. Because I think every time we do something like this, we show someone else what's possible.[00:23:00] 

And um, Kathy Heller, who is someone that I just. Adore. She's an author, she's a wonderful podcast, abundant ever after. She's just beautiful energy. But her thing that she always says is, it's not, look at me, it's come with me. Mm. And that is energy that I have just taken. And I know that that's what I'm trying to bring to the podcast.

I think sometimes with women, we, um, feel like everything is a competition, or if she's doing it, then I can't. Or if she's, you know, but that come with me energy. It's, I'm doing this, I'm taking your hand. It's okay. Yeah. It's okay. Yes. I love that. And I, I think I have to constantly remind the, come with me part because I do think, and it's funny 'cause astrologically I know where this comes from now with myself, but at any rate, I find that when I'm, you know, in the public, whether it be performing or it's speaking or even teaching, honestly to a certain degree, [00:24:00] um, you have all eyes on you.

And it can feel, you know, you, I know for myself, I'm simply just trying to sit in whatever thing that I'm trying to bring, whatever energy. A lot of times I'm, it's less about me trying to sing a song to you or teach this subject. It's more about I want you to energetically feel something as a result.

Like just feel wherever it takes you. And it's, it's kind of in an abstract thing when I'm with students because they get a little frustrated. 'cause I'm like, just feel a little bit more, I don't want you to just get caught up in the grade. But, um, but with that, that can be incredibly challenging for people.

And I've learned that sometimes, whilst most people, yes, they receive that and there's some type of positive kind of exchange, but other people that can be triggering, that can be, um, hard, it can be act, it can activate parts of self that, um, people don't wanna go. And so that energy can get [00:25:00] reflected back on me and I can feel that.

And I, you know, as a creative, as an artist, you feel frequencies all the time. 'cause you have to, that's how you can tell, you know if what you're feeding is, is connecting. So when you can feel a energy reflect back, that is not against you like bad, but it's something, it's not, it's not connecting. That can be, that can be hard.

And so. Because I'm such a strong feeler. Um, that is the thing that I still have to work through in terms of public spaces, is am I willing to not only take on the light, but the dark? 'cause the dark is there too. And, and the dark is not dark, as in you're bad. The dark is, you are, you're navigating and you're having a hard time.

And there's muck and there's Meyer in that navigation. And so to get out of the muck, you may throw some mud here or throw a little bit of mud there. And it may land on me and I can feel it when it lands on me, but I know it's not really about me. So that gets really [00:26:00] tricky and I'm working through that because sometimes that makes me just wanna kind of get in a, you know, cocoon.

Mm-hmm. Just say, nevermind. I'm good. I don't wanna have mud thrown on me right now. So, yeah. So that's a, an abstract kind of thing that happens too. Well, I love that you're, you're helping, uh, people feel again, because I think. So much we've been told that feeling is not a superpower and it is, we're too emotional.

You're too sensitive, you're in your feelings. That's right where we should be. I mean, they are strong, um, navigators. They're telling us something. Yes. And we are all energy. So we do pick up on it. And I think the more that we learn to trust what we are feeling, there's so many answers within us, but we've been told, Nope, the answers are out there, it's over there, that person has it, versus just getting still and hearing the answers within.

Absolutely. But Ken, I wanted to ask you, what does finding your voice after [00:27:00] 40 really mean to you and, and how has that meaning changed as you have evolved? Yeah. Yeah. So finding your voice. So, so my wellness company is finding your voice. The podcast is finding your voice after 40. Um, I specifically made it after 40 at the time.

I was in my forties at the time when I mm-hmm. Um, found it. And I really felt like when I turned 40 that, I mean, it was my thirties that I started the spiritual retreat and, you know, motherhood was kind of in more full bloom. And, you know, it was the, but it was, uh, uh, uh, but forties was when it was like, okay, you know, let's go, let's like, let's, let's start this.

And so that, I, I just, I had started saying, finding your voice. 'cause I was doing some work with artists, particularly with singers, and I was first talking about finding voice in terms of singing, like, what's your voice? But I didn't, that was, that was work. That was fine for the moment, but it wasn't work that I realized that I really wanted to stay in.

Um, and so I could kind of [00:28:00] quiet it down that brand. But when Covid hit, and we all know. You know, once Covid hit people, I felt like people were trying to find themselves again. Like their jobs, everything was just, you know, their health, their relationships, everything was just kind of put in this really interesting, um, position.

And so, um, I was like, you know what? Finding your voice still works for this. And particularly I just, because of my age, I was mostly around, you know, women who were 40 plus. And I just felt like, you know, this is a, this is a space where I feel like we're a bit voiceless. Um, I think Generation X particular, and most of Gen X now is 55 year voice over 50, but, um, gen X is this kind of quiet, um, generation.

That is what, but Gen X is kind of the generation that's actually keeping society, you know, kind of going in a lot of ways because we're in that age range that is, [00:29:00] you know, kids are. Finishing up going to college or whatever. Parents are aging and we're still working. We're not quite retired, so we're still the ones spending and, and all the things, but we're so quiet.

Like we're not known for anything. Like what are we known for other than kind of, I mean, maybe some musical great icons or whatever, but in terms of our generation, like the millennials, we can clearly say, oh, the millennials did this, or gen, you know mm-hmm. Gen Z doing that. Baby boomers were this, gen X is like, uh, and I just felt like, oh, we need to put something.

So that's what generated that whole concept of what are the things we need to do to find who we are, um, particularly as women, um, particularly as women of color, um, because there's like this double situation, triple of, of quieting that can happen. Mm. So, yeah. Yes. And I would say we're the generation known for drinking out of the, uh, water hose, you know?

Yeah. We, we went outside, we played, [00:30:00] we, we came in when the street lights came on. You know, I think that's our, our, our generation there. We didn't have the helmets and No, but we did exactly to, to a fault, I believe. And again, this is astrological as well, but we did what we were told and that made us lose who we were.  

Burned out? Disconnected? Or stuck in the shoulds of life? Confident by Nature helps women rediscover their true selves through the healing power of nature. With life changing retreats, workshops, and a supportive community, we'll guide you to reconnect with your passions and awaken your liveness.

Explore more at confidentbynature. com. 

You know, it's like you're following, you're being told, oh, you need to go to college or do this, do this. Right. You know, we were the ones, yeah. We were scared of our parents. Yes. Like there's no telling what they may do. Lemme just, you know, I'm just gonna be quiet and just get this [00:31:00] done. But when you just are quiet and get this done, who are you?

'cause now you're just a doer. And a, and a and a completer maybe, I guess. But where's, where's you in all of that? And that's something I still see very strong, um, in our generation, um, in a lot of ways. So I agree. And the younger generations, they have flipped that on that completely, haven't they? And I, I think it's wonderful.

Me too. They're, they look at everything and ask why and how. Yes. And, you know, and why are we do, wait, I, I think that I've got this great explanation for my sons like, well, you do it because, and they're like, but why? Right? I mean, you have to really think like, okay, lemme, hold on, lemme think about this. Why did we work for 20 years before we asked for the first promotion?

You know? Yeah. So, oh, I have like, just really quick, one of the funniest. Things that made me be like, wow. My, my oldest son, um, he's 22 now, but when he was around 20, [00:32:00] 21, you know, he starts, he has his own YouTube channel. But he realized, yes, at the beginning he needed to supplement his income. 'cause I was like, you know, you gotta kind of learn how to, you wanna adult, let's adult, let's go.

You know? And so, and I know that he's, he's a, he's an extremely independent thinker and everything we were just kind of saying. And so he had his first little job, um, at, I think it was Foot Locker or whatever. And at first he was like, yeah, I'm making all the seals. W right. And then he, and you know, that lasted about two weeks.

And then he was sick of it, right? And he was like, this is like, people do this every day. Like this is dumb. Like, why do people work like, and do like this? This is awful. And I'm like, you know, well, and so he had had this moment, he was on break and he called me and he is just like, you know, eh, I just can't take this.

I said, you know what? You still have, mom and dad are still helping you out. So if you don't wanna have this job, I mean, you know, you could focus maybe more on your YouTube, like you don't feel like you have to do this. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta think about that. You're right. So I'm like, okay.

He'll think about it. [00:33:00] So the next morning I called. I'm like, you know, so how, you know, how are you doing? Are you gonna work? He's like, oh no, I quit. I was like, what? What? I said when he said, after I got the phone with you, I'm like, oh my God, what do you mean? He's like, well, I don't even understand. Yeah. The manager's calling me today.

Like, you know, you're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to give notes. And he's like, why? And I was like, well, because he said, why we're, you know, that's what you do. That's a part of, he's like, so if I got fired, they would ask me to leave immediately, but if I decide I no longer wanna work here, I gotta give two weeks notice.

And I was like, you are right, you. And he's like, yeah, that doesn't make any sense. So, yeah, I quit. It's. Ooh. He never went back and he's doing great. But that was the first time that I was like, yeah, why is it that when you're fired, you're expected to leave the premise immediately, but when you take control of your own life and decide, I don't wanna do this, then now we have [00:34:00] to give this courtesy thing.

Mm-hmm. And I said, wow. So that's what I'm saying. It's like they take a huge mirror and just shine it on things and you're like, oh, I, yeah. I, yeah. Yeah. So, so going back to your music mm-hmm. Um, and I know we talked about this a little bit, but what role would you say that music has played in your healing journey?

And do you still sing? I mean, how do, how has that all evolved for you? Yeah. Um, music, uh, music is a healer on, I mean, I know's kind of you, I know everybody's cliche, but. For me, it's what allowed me to find my voice for real. Like literally like singing. Um, going as an artist, particularly as a singer, there's a lot of training and a lot that you have to do, a lot of mental work.

You have to do, not just vocalization, I mean the talent, the gift that's, you know, that's kind of just naturally maybe there, but the [00:35:00] tenacity, the ability to, like you said, get on a stage, all of that. There's so much that you have to do without looking like you're doing it. Yes. And to get in that, and to get in that self zone, you have to heal so much stuff.

You have to free stuff, you have to let go of stuff. You have to say, it's basically like, I've gained a hundred pounds, but I'm gonna get naked right now. Like, you have to have that kind of belief in yourself. And to do that, that requires to me a, a certain healing, a certain freeing. So, so that alone just really helped to open me up to see my own power, to see my own, um, uniqueness, um, individuality.

Um, and so yeah, that, that was a huge part of the healing, um, for me as far, and, and then, I mean, obviously once you start, there's so many other layers to that, but that, for me was the thing that stood out as far as music. Now I. I'm honest, I'm gonna [00:36:00] be really honest. I'm in a tricky space with music right now.

Um, I definitely don't wanna do music the way I was doing it, which was gigging and performing. That's a very hard lifestyle. It's one that I don't personally want now that I'm over 50. I'm 52 now, and I just, it just doesn't match the rhythm and the cadence that I want my life to be. Mm-hmm. Um, and for me, it music, what the joy I had of music was the performance element.

I mean, recording is nice. Um, some artists love the recording part. Other artists love the writing part. Other artists love the. You know, the performing part for me. I do love the writing and the creating and bringing it all together and working with the band and all of that, getting that together. I hate studio sessions.

I cannot stand studio sessions. They're completely stressful for me. Really? I don't like them. I do not like them at all. I love rehearsal and, you know, creating and coming up with what we're gonna do. But now it's like record and I'm like, ah. You know, it's like, yes. And you have [00:37:00] to remember when you're creating.

'cause I write my music. So when you're creating, I, I, I have done covers and so I did that Michael Jackson song, which is much easier to do in the studio because I know that song. Yes, I know how that song is supposed to be. I know what Michael did. I know what it was and I know how I wanna make it. But when you're writing your own music, you don't really know the song yet.

You just created it. It's like having a child. Mm-hmm. Like a newborn. Mm-hmm. I, I don't really know you yet, so I'm gonna feed you and change your diaper, but I don't really know you. Right. And that's how the music and, but in the studio, but this is it. This is what's gonna get released. So that's very stressful for me because I don't really know this song yet and I need to, I don't know, should I sing it this way?

Should I sing it that way? So that's stressful. But the performing, I. That I love. I love getting on a stage. I loved, I loved that. And, um, I can't just get on a stage and not travel. Like that's, that's what being a musician is. You have to go places so people can hear [00:38:00] you sing. And so I can't just get on a stage in my backyard.

If I could do that, then I would Yeah. Come on, come over every day, everybody, you know, but, so I'm still trying to figure it out. I sing in my house all day. I listen to music nonstop. I music is breath. It's, I, I don't even, there's not a day that I don't go doing something musically in my, something is musical around me, but for the public, I don't know what I'm gonna do yet.

I haven't reconciled that. Can you, you just need to start a residency, like a, like a Las Vegas residency where people come to you, you, you stay. Yes. Well, let's move to astrology. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, I love everything about it, but how did you. Formally, how did you get into, I know you touched on it, but how did you decide this is something that I really want to focus on and make it like my career and, yeah.

Yeah. Covid Covid did so much, you know, when [00:39:00] Covid hit, I, I knew, because I study astrology and I've always studied it for understanding for myself, I, I realized, you know, what was happening, you know, in the world and all the changes and all this. I'm like, astrology actually gives a lot of light to this.

Okay. There's a lot that it is able to explain kind of what nature and the planets are eliciting, not just in the environment, but in human behavior. And so I wanted, so it was really covid, it was 2021. I had joined Clubhouse, which was really popular during kind of the quarantine. Um, it was a, it's a, it was popular amongst.

Some people I guess, but it was those who are in it, we were in it, you know. But it's basically a social media app, but it's, you join like an audio room and you just talk to different people across the world basically on different subjects. And so they would have these rooms, which are basically, you know, you just enter like a Zoom room or something, but it's just audio.

And [00:40:00] they would have these discussions on astrology. And so I would just go, it was just fascinating 'cause I was like hearing all these astrologers and the more I heard them talk, I was just like. People need to know this. Like, people need to know this. How am I going to do this? And there was one particular astrologer on that app who is now my mentor and who did my advanced training, but at the time I just was like, this man is incredible.

Like he's just explaining it and that he made it so relevant and so re, you know, relatable. I'm like, I wanna do that. If I'm gonna do astrology, I wanna be like that where I can help people really literally use it for not just have kicks and giggles, but to use it in their life. And he started classes, I, I joined the classes and it taught me.

And now, yeah, I do readings and I, you know, coach people and really help people use it for their self care and yeah. So, so what would you say to someone who's [00:41:00] listening who's maybe skeptical about astrology or just unsure of where to begin to Yeah. To learn more about it? I mean, I always tell people astrology is nature.

So if you believe that nature exists, okay, then you will be able to, if you dig into astrology a bit more, you'll be able to understand. Astrology is not a belief system, it's not a religion system. It's literally a tool. It's a, it's a tool. So, um, I just tell people, look at astrology less about, oh, I'm a Pisces, I'm a this, because honestly, we all have every sign in us, every single sign we have.

We just haven't learned astrology enough to really understand what that means. But what I do think helps people a lot is, it's two things. One, astrology is like a weather forecast, meaning it is, it's like if it's gonna be raining outside. Just because it's raining doesn't mean that it's a bad day. It can mean that it [00:42:00] depends, but it's raining so you know, okay, I need an umbrella.

I need to maybe bring a jacket, maybe I'll stay in until the rain stops. Astrology is basically just giving you the energy of, of, of. Humanity and the energy of, of really even the literal environment. And so because these are actual planets and they actually radiate, we know that the sun makes us warm.

Every planet is doing something like that energetically, we just don't see them all. So if people can just understand that it's like just a forecast and you decide your life, this is the beauty of it. You, you know, yes, you're, you're a Capricorn, but that doesn't equal, that equals you might be wired one way, but that doesn't tell me you're gonna start a podcast like that.

That's really up to you. That's the choice. So that's one big thing. And the other thing is astrology is looking at the elements. And I think people understand fire, they understand water, they understand air, um, they understand earth. Every sign is one of those [00:43:00] elements. And so when you start thinking of an elements, you're like, oh, I am kind of grounded.

It's like, yeah, you probably got Capricorn or Virgo, um, or Taurus, like heavy in your chart. Oh, I am pretty kind of like my emotions. I can feel I'm kind of empathic. I can tell. Oh, that means you probably have a lot of water in your chart because water. And when we really start thinking about water and how water makes us feel, how the earth makes us feel strong and grounded and able, how fire makes us want to go, or like it's hot or it's then it's like, oh, that's all really astrology is.

Is just connecting those dots. It really is so. It, it's so similar to human design and I like to tell people, it's kind of like with human design, it's very similar. Astrology is a part of human design. Um, but I look at it like a life manual. So it's similar to if you were, if you were riding a bike right now, Ken, if you'd never seen it and I gave you a manual to ride the bike, you might hop on there and pedal and just go straightforward.

But someone else might hop on the bike and do flips [00:44:00] and, you know, do circles and all kinds of, like, it's just a manual. But how you choose to use it, like you said, it does, it's, it does not, um. Tell it, it should never be something where it's putting you in a, in a box. It's simply a, a guide ab and, and I don't even, you know, there's predictive astrology where if you really study the, the, the very advanced layers, yes, there are certain things that you can kind of tell, well, the likelihood of this or that happening may be strong.

Mm-hmm. But it doesn't, it doesn't necessarily equal it. You know, when the election was going on, um, and I'm not getting in politics or anything, but a lot of people wanted to go to astrology, tell us who's gonna win. It's like, no, we can't do that. This depends on so many other factors. Um, so I just think astrology, particularly for those, if you're listening and you're curious about astrology, if you have a curiosity, then you absolutely should get a reading.

Because from whomever, I'm not just promoting myself, but because the curiosity there's, that's coming from somewhere. [00:45:00] If you're someone that's like, I don't wanna touch it, then don't I, I say, don't, because what I don't like doing is trying to convince. People, yes. Of, of a tool. Like no, I'm not, you know, there are lots of tools out here.

Human design, there's, there's so many ways to explore who we are. I just find it as a, a tool that's been extremely helpful for me. It's very helpful for my clients, um, my students even. Um, so yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that you said that. 'cause I feel the same way. I was saying that to I think John the other day, that I am not here to convince people of anything if, I love that you said if you're curious.

'cause when you're curious, there's something behind that. Yes. Yeah. Well, um, moving on to your retreats. You're, you're, you're getting ready to host your third international retreat, ma in Bali. And, and I throw that international piece in there because as you know, I hosted my first retreat, but it was local, it was domestic.

I mean, when you start to go international, that's a whole different, [00:46:00] um, that's a whole different, you know, level. Um, but in June. So what inspired you? I mean, I know that you, your life was impacted by the retreat that you initially went on. Mm-hmm. Um, is that kind of behind the inspiration and Yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely.

That was the seed. Um, after I did that retreat, I really, retreats were something that just stayed in me. And, um, prior to Covid, like back when I was married, um, I'm not married anymore, but I think it was 20 15, 20 16. Um, my ex-husband and I, we, we found this old house that, and at the moment I saw it was in Michigan, in St.

Joseph, Michigan. And the moment we saw this house, I was like, oh my god. That's a retreat house. And this was a decrepit, like it needed to be gutted and it was like, uh, I remember it. Yes. And I was like, this is a retreat house. And that was like the first, I just always wanted to replicate that experience.

Um, I. Obviously we had to let [00:47:00] go of that house, you know, we decided no longer to be married and so forth. And so, but I always kept that in my soul, just like I, I I'm made for doing retreats. I don't know how, when, and again, covid what it did. Um, I was again watching a lot of girlfriends actually going through it and I said, you know what?

If I created like a virtual retreat, since we can't leave anywhere, and we did this virtual zoom, I just called some girlfriends. I said, Hey, I'm testing something out. I'm not gonna charge you for anything. I just wanna see if I carried you through these different kind of workshops and ideas about things, how it, how you would respond to it.

And I was able to work with a spiritualist that works with me and I asked her, I was like, could you do a session? Just kind talk about spirituality just a little bit more. Um, my niece is a yoga instructor. I said, can you go zoom, do yoga, like it just be kind of like a day thing? And they did it. And afterwards all my friends were like, oh my God.

Like. You gotta do this. Like this was amazing. I was like, okay. And um, [00:48:00] they're like, as soon as we can get in person, like seriously, you need to do something in person. And once things started to level off more, um, it, it's too long of a story. But long, long story short, there was a retreat space in Costa Rica and they were offering this special thing.

If you write a essay, if you're, if you're picked, if your essay is picked, we'll come, you get to fly to Costa Rica for free, see our place and potentially host a retreat. And I was picked, and um, from there I was like, oh my God. And so here I was in Costa Rica for free at this amazing resort. And I'm like, oh my God.

And they're like, well, do you want, I, I, I said, well, I have some people who did virtual treat. I think that they might wanna do this. And, um, yeah, I, I had some dollars that I was able to invest in at that time and. It sold out. It was crazy. And it wasn't just my friends, it, that's what was like weird, you know?

It was some couple of my friends people I knew. Mm-hmm. But that's [00:49:00] how it, it started. And you know, again, once you have a win, you realize, okay, I can, I can do this again. I can, I can replicate what happened. And so here we are. So I, I mean, I've always wanted to go to Bali. That is absolutely on my bucket list.

Why, why did you choose Bali this time? Is this your first time Bali was, yes. I said Bali was on my bucket list. Yes. This is the beautiful part of doing retreats. You get to be a little selfish, like, it's like, well, I wanna see this place too. You know, I wanna, I wanna visit as well. And obviously Bali is known for so much of its healing and sacred and spiritual, um, naturals, landscapes and all of that.

So I had been talking to a company that basically assisted people who are outside of Bali to host retreats. Um, since they're based there. And they had reached out to me, they had seen some stuff that I had done in Costa Rica. So they had reached out to say, Hey, have you ever thought about Bali? Um, and I'm like.

That flight though is just crazy. I don't know. So I kind of held off on it. Um, but [00:50:00] then, yeah, this after we were in Mexico last year and I said, you know, I'm gonna, I wanna go for Bali. And I, I usually, the women, there's women who have done every retreat from the virtual all the way through. And so I surveyed them and Bali definitely came up as one that they would be interested in as well.

So we did it. Now, we're, we still have, I think, two spots. I think we have two spots still left. So if anybody, I don't know when this will be aired, but, um, you know, and the deadline is coming up though, it's April 15th, by which we have to, so that we may be past that. Mm-hmm. But, um, but I do these retreats, you know, that's a part of my business.

And so, um, we're looking at, um, already our next space. Um, and, but it won't happen until 2027. So. Well, and I wanna make sure that you tell everyone where they can, they can find you. Um, we will definitely do that. But one of my final questions for you, Kenya, would be [00:51:00] working with, you know, sisterhood is a big thing now and I think people are really starting to realize just how much we need that sisterhood connection.

But with you, um, having worked with women in so many different beautiful ways, through your retreats and even being a coach, is there something in particular that you feel, is there a theme or something that you see that, um, of just what women are really seeking at this stage in life? Uh. I think women, if I had to give it in a really succinct way, I think it's renewal.

I think it's, it's like, um, an energy of they know, you know, I'm working with women who are well advanced in their careers and, you know, I, I have the occasional younger, um, client, but meaning like in their twenties or thirties, but for my retreats, they're women mostly over 40. And a lot of the women, um, they, they know there's this something inside of them, but they don't know how to itch, you know, how to scratch the itch.[00:52:00] 

It's like they just need just a little bit of, I just, how do I scratch that itch? And, you know, I feel like a lot of women are just. For me, I te I coach in a way for people to remember themselves and not so much to become this other thing, but remember who you are before you became this parent, or before you became this wife or this partner or this, you know, you know, all the things, worker or you know, boss and all those things.

There's somebody else in there. So I think a lot of women feel it. They don't necessarily, um, know how to get rid of the fear or see the practicality of it and helping them to let go that no, this isn't gonna be practical, in fact. Yeah. Right, right. So, um, and trusting that, but I, yeah, I think that's the most common theme that I see.

Um, yeah. So what would you say to someone who's listening who feels like, eh, it's too late. No, I, I get what she's saying, but it's [00:53:00] just, it's, it's too late. I've, I. No. So I think your other, I just started listening to one of your, your most recent podcasts, and I think you kind of allude to this of how later in life, so, so, you know, our first half of our life, you know, we're, there's so much smoke and mirrors in terms of what we're taught of what is and what is not.

Why would you have everything together at 20 something or 30? Why? Like, literally why? That's like telling the 10-year-old, oh, you've got, you should be big now with all your stuff. You've got 10 years and it's like they're 10. Like they don't have that yet. So it's it, I mean, if we're all averaging a life, you know, in the seventies and eighties.

We have, we're not even, we. So, so to me it doesn't even really, really start until forties. Like in it, in it fifties. I mean, I really think that the fifties is like, okay, all right. You know, so I'm doing the [00:54:00] thing. Yes, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this thing. So you have enough wisdom, you have enough information, you have enough experience.

Um, so it's actually, to me, the, I'm seeing it as, wow, this is actually the beginning of a lot of this stuff. Yeah. Um, I, I mean, for me, even the beginning of love, the beginning of, um, home ownership in a different kind of way, you know, doing it on my own, like all of that, it, that all didn't happen until I didn't start my music.

I didn't start touring till after 40 Oh. So, um, I didn't start my, you know, astrology until hitting 50. So, you know, that's, we, we, yeah. It starts later and, um, I think, you know, we've just been unfortunately bamboozled. We, we have, and yes, I just finished an episode on it and you know, it's, midlife is a gift.

It's a gift. [00:55:00] We are wiser, we have all this lived experience, but I'm starting to see it as instead of a midlife crisis, it's midlife curiosity. Mm-hmm. If you can just embrace that curiosity and follow it, you know, um, it's beautiful. And I love that you said kind of your timeframes. You did not start recording and singing until after you're 40 in astrology 50.

Like, let's go guys. Like, let's. Absolutely. And I have more things like up my sleeve. Like I, you know, that I can't wait to do and you know, and I have to, you know, I have to remind myself like, okay, wait a minute. You know, in terms of taking care of my body and physically like that is different. I don't care what anybody says.

50 is different. Right? It's different. It's different. And so I'm trying to get reacquainted with her and you know, get her, you know, not trying to make her look like her 20 something self, no. But still be healthy and, [00:56:00] and, and feel, you know, have like vibrance and those things. But yeah, no, no, no, no. And I, I push that really hard in my coaching and in my retreats that now you have the wisdom.

So this is, this is the money spot. This is the money spot. Even with menopause and stuff, we have to look at the other side of this. This is your freedom. This is your rite of passage to body liberation to a certain degree. Like, you're, you're not having a menstrual cycle doesn't mean, ugh. That means there's a freedom with that.

Yes, there's a freedom in a lot of, in a lot of ways, not just about not having a, a monthly period, but just your sexual energy. All of that is, it's, it's opening doors. And if we can start to look at it that way, um, and start taking care of ourselves as a mature woman and not as a frantic, anxious, not really knowing what's happening, young person, like, it's, it's a gift.

I agree. It is, it's, it is. It is absolutely a gift. One that we should [00:57:00] embrace, for sure. Well, Kenya, thank you so much. Yeah, for sharing your story and your wisdom and your voice with us today, it's been such a gift. But before we go, can you let listeners know where they can connect with you and how they can find you and learn more about your work?

Absolutely. Yeah. The best way to find me, I'm on Instagram, but I on, and that's at Kenya, MJ music. But I usually only post kind of fun, silly social stuff there. But the best way, if you wanna learn more about the astrology and the coaching and the retreats, is going to finding your voice after forty.com.

Simple as that. All the things are kind of listed there. Um, but I do hang out on social media, on Instagram. I'm, and I'm on LinkedIn for some things, but I, Instagram is the fun side of me. So if you want that. But if you really wanna get, like, you want some, you need some support, go to the Finding Your Voice after forty.com.

All right, well, we're gonna end, as we always do with what I [00:58:00] call my beautiful fixed speed round, which is, uh, the world's slowest speed round ever. You are so funny. So what makes you come alive? So, I, I wrote my notes down for this, um, astrology. My boys, my boys lately have just, they are so interesting.

They're so interesting. So they really, I, I'm, I'm enjoying this stage. They're in their twen. They're 22 and 18, so yeah, her, your Young's sons are amazing. I remember the last time we had lunch, you, you blew us away with. With them, their stories, the way they think. Old, old souls. My youngest is a meditator and he just, I love that classifies on life.

And he thanks to my awareness that I'm just like, what? And I'm like, that's awesome. So yeah. Are they're here to teach us. Once I realize that, yes. It just totally flipped things, you know? Yeah. Um, favorite song? Oh my God, this is an impossible question, Tracy. It's [00:59:00] impossible. Everyone hates this one. It's, IM, yes, it's bad.

I, but the song that I always, I have been singing since I was a little girl, and I don't even know why I had access to this song as a little girl, but it's a song by Ricky Lee Jones called Company. Nobody's ever heard of it. Um, there was another woman who remade it, and that's how I heard it when I was.

Like 10 or nine. Um, but it's called company. It's the most, it's the most depressing, sad song ever. But I love to sing it. I love to sing it. It's like, I love it. Yeah. You love to sing it. Can you

please? How's it go? Um, I, you too, clearly. It's so depressing, but I'll survive another day. Conversation institution. It's just really, it's really sad, but that's it. It's, it's a beautiful, sad song [01:00:00] and yeah, your voice is Beau. That was beautiful. Oh my gosh. Thank you for that. You're welcome. But I'm like, I even practice digging, but yes, that's like my song.

Yeah. I love that song. Favorite book. Ah, so this one. This is really, this is actually harder than the music because I'm reading like four books right now and I'm really loving all of them. Yes. But Yala Manza has, um, a song, uh, I, a song, a book, I think it's called, it's basically devotionals. And I was trying to say, I said, oh my God, I don't remember what it's called, but it's every, I think it's not in the meantime, but it's like that it's something, but every day it's a different, oh, one day My Soul will open up, I think, or something like that.

I dunno. Okay. But it's a devotional book and it's outstanding. And when I, so it's like every day, like March 27th, you read, okay. Every day she has a different got, she gives a lesson on, on something about your soul and things to be thinking about. And she [01:01:00] goes really deep in it. And I can't think of, but I, I have to remember, I know that's bad.

Favorite movie. Um, okay, so this is childish, but 16 candles. I know all the, oh my God. I know Every line Married know every single line of that. Yes, yes. I sound and I, every character I can say the whole like script. Oh my, totally. I love that movie. It's one of my favorite movies. I remember seeing that in the theater.

And when he pulls up in that red PORs in that, yes. Come on. And she's looking like, what? He's just standing there and he's like, yes. Oh yeah, I know. Oh good. I know every line. This is so sad. I know every light of that movie, but it's my favorite moment. I think I'm with you. Okay. That's a good one. Um, favorite quote or affirmation?

Yeah. This is a quote that I do use for my business. Um, change is inevitable. Growth is optional. Mm. [01:02:00] I think people think that change equals you're gonna grow. No, no, no, no. Change is gonna happen. But growth is something you really do have to choose. You have to choose your growth. So I love that quote. You have to, I think you have to choose everything in your life.

You have to choose happiness. You have to choose joy. You have to choose. Um, sorry. We're having a cameo appearance from my, my cat jade. She's trying to get to these flowers. Love it. Uh, favorite place to reset or recharge. Um, this may sound silly, but my home, I love my home. Yes. I really, really love my home.

And, um, I recently moved into this home, but every home that I'm in, I make it my sanctuary. It doesn't matter. Like, I've never been in a home where I was like, like all my homes, uh, so my home. Um, but if I were to go outside of my home, um, I typically go to Mexico, some space in Mexico. I just got back from Playa and really enjoyed Playa de Carmen.

But my home is first though. Yeah, I, I agree. Guilty [01:03:00] pleasure. Okay, this is silly again. There is a show on YouTube called Pop the Balloon. Oh my God. It's really bad. It's a dating show and I don't know why I enjoy, I mean, I am in a full fledged relationship, committed relationship, but seeing people, basically, you go out and you see the group of people, and if you don't like 'em, you know, they pop the balloon like, anyway, it's silly, it's ratchet, but I'm kind of addicted.

Wait. Okay. I don't know if I, you see someone, you pop a, okay, well, you come out and they have, everybody has a balloon and like it'd be all girls. They have their balloon and a guy comes out and so if they think the guy is somebody they would wanna talk to, they keep the balloon. If they are like, oh, I don't like the way he looks, they pop it.

And so then whoever is left with a balloon, he gets to ask them questions and then he gets to pop. What he, okay. It's like a dating bachelor kind of. So, got it. Yes. But it's really, really [01:04:00] ratchet, meaning they say really dumb things as to why they're popping the balloon or why they like somebody. But I love it and it's, yeah, it's silly.

Well, Kenya, thank you. Thank you so much for coming on. This has been wonderful. I have certainly had my beautiful fix. Aw, I love it. This is outstanding, Tracy, and I'm so proud of you. I'm so glad you're doing this. I love listening, and I, it's an honor to share my story. Absolutely. Thank you. Thanks.

 [01:05:00]