From Stillness to Ayahuasca to Wonder (with Kenna Brooke)

From Stillness to Ayahuasca to Wonder (with Kenna Brooke)

What if stillness could change your life? In this episode of A Beautiful Fix, I’m joined by Kenna Brooke—storyteller, sacred space holder, and host of the Endless WONDR podcast—for a powerful conversation about surrender, soul sabbaticals, and the unexpected beauty of getting quiet enough to hear your truth.

Kenna shares her deeply personal journey of healing from burnout, spiritual disconnection, and a toxic relationship through the practices of stillness, sacred silence, and an 11-day soul sabbatical that helped her reconnect with her inner voice.

We talk about her experiences with Ayahuasca in Peru, her pilgrimage to Egypt, and how learning to embody wonder—even in the mess—can be the most radical and beautiful shift of all.

Whether you’re navigating a midlife awakening, craving a deeper sense of purpose, or simply feeling disconnected from yourself… this conversation is a permission slip to slow down, surrender, and come home to your soul.

In This Episode, We Explore:

• What a soul sabbatical is—and how to create one in your own home
• Why stillness is often the starting point for deep transformation
• How Ayahuasca taught Kenna to release ego and reconnect to love
• The link between burnout, over-performing, and ignoring your inner voice
• Why wonder isn’t just for the good moments—but also the hard ones
• How embodiment and integration make spiritual growth real
• The surprising beauty of honoring your nervous system and living unplugged

 Connect with Kenna Brooke:

• Endless WONDR Podcast: Listen on Apple Podcasts | Listen on Spotify
• Instagram: @kennabrooke.wondr

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From Stillness to Ayahuasca to Wonder (with Kenna Brooke)

Today I'm talking with Kenna Brooke, the creator and host of the Endless [00:01:00] Wondr Podcast, where she explores the beauty of slowing down, honoring sacred moments, and reconnecting with life's deeper rhythm. Through her reflections and storytelling, she reminds us that wonder isn't reserved for big, flashy milestones.

It's in the quiet everyday pauses we so often overlook. Kenna is a lifelong seeker and storyteller who helps others soften into the unknown release perfectionism and create a life anchored in presence, purpose, and truth. For my human design crew, she's a one three manifesting generator with emotional authority.

Kenna, welcome to a beautiful fix. It is such an honor and pleasure to be here, Tracy. Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. Well, I have to start by saying I'm really [00:02:00] excited for today's conversation. I'm looking forward to it. Um, Ken and I are really just meeting for the first time as, as it often is with my, uh, interviews.

I feel like we are soul sisters. I feel like there is a connection. I have been binging. Um, your podcast, endless wonder and just hanging on to every word, just shaking my head nonstop. Um, it seems like our journeys are very aligned. Yeah. Um, because a beautiful fix, when I originally started it, it was simply to remind people.

How beautiful this world is. Yes, we often forget. It's easy to get lost in all the drama, but I'm here to say and shine a huge spotlight on Uhuh. It is beautiful beyond measure, but we have to stop and, and look for it and acknowledge it, and part of that. Is what you are all about. It's filling [00:03:00] that wonder that all like wonder that you have when you are a child at everything in the world.

So listening to your podcasts, your thoughts, your journeys, your pilgrimage to, to e to age up and just everything. I just wanna dig into it. But first, but first I'd love to just start with your story. Like what was the spark that led you. To create endless wonder. Thank you for listening one, and I completely agree with you.

I just coming across you a beautiful fix and looking at what you're doing and what really started your journey is so aligned and so similar to my own. And I'll say that endless wonder really came about it. It's been in my heart for many, many years. I had an experience, uh, which I would love to talk about at some point.

Called, well, I basically named it a soul sabbatical at the time. I've since sort of changed [00:04:00] that, but it was in this experience where I really just decided to surrender to life. I was kind of coming out of. Not kind of coming out of, I was definitely coming out of a really narcissistic, unhealthy relationship, and it took me many, many years after the relationship technically ended to truly release the, the control, really the bond that, um.

That Enmeshment had created, and I just knew that my soul was calling for some opportunity to have complete silence, to have all of the noise, all of the voices from the external to be quieted enough that I could really start to hear and tap into that subtle, small, still soul's voice that's always been there, but.

Was covered over by all the noise and all of [00:05:00] the, um, attempts to be what everyone outside of me thought I should be. And so I created this experience for myself where I took 11 days completely off offline. I guess I. Sent messages to everyone that I knew that I was not really gonna be accessible. I turned my phone on airplane mode.

I didn't have any telephone conversations, no text messages, no email. I didn't watch any television. I still lived my life. I was out of work at the time, so I really had the opportunity to do nothing but just wake up every morning and ask my soul what? Would you have me do today? My only requirement of myself was to have a spiritual practice of some kind each day, to nurture my body in some way each day, and then to just allow the intuitive voice to guide me from there.

And [00:06:00] it was a magical experience. It took time. It was 11 days that I created and it was like layer by layer. These things would start to come off, and by the end I was journaling and writing about, you know, creating these kinds of experiences for other people so that they would have an opportunity to really hear their soul.

It was an opportunity for me to not just hear it, but to really sense it and feel into it. It was an embodiment practice really, and I knew that. Even then I could create something like that for someone in a material space. But my hope was, and my feel was. I could also create that through a podcast. And so I started journaling about creating a podcast back in 2020, right around the time that I had that experience.

And I just, you know, kept putting it off for all the same reasons that we do. The insecurities, the fear of the vulnerability, [00:07:00] all of the constructs that tell us, no, we don't really, you know, that's not gonna make you any money. How are you gonna survive? Et cetera, et cetera. Yes. And. I just kept ignoring it and life kept bringing me more opportunities to deepen in and listen more.

And I just knew then, um, endless wonder needed to be. And it was time for me to share not only my story, but the story of other people who have experienced wonder through all the ways that it's there. Um, and so that was really, it's kind of been a hearts calling for many years and I finally said yes. And that's part of the deep surrender that I'm in in my life right now.

Okay. We have to unpack. We have to unpack. I was just, I was taking notes as you were writing Surrender to Life. I love that phrase. Yes. Yes. Because I think that's, it's a really beautiful way of, I think explaining sometimes what needs [00:08:00] to happen when you get to that point where. You might not have the answers.

Mm-hmm. But you just surrender. You just kind of put your hands up and just say, I, I surrender to the experience. To the wonder, to the unknown. Yes. Um. And, and you mentioned your soul sabbatical, so that was something that you did at home. You, you didn't go away for 11 days, just you were in your home and you turned off your devices and told the world, I'm gonna be unavailable for 11 days.

Yes. At the time I was living alone, I was not working. I. So I really had control of my environment. Yes, I typically recommend that people do something like this away from home because it can be difficult to really set the boundaries, especially if you live with anyone or you have, you know, those kinds of daily responsibilities.

And since I've done many of these for myself, um, as well as for others, and most of the time it's been elsewhere at an Airbnb or an experience [00:09:00] like that. But at the, at the initial one, it was in my home. And, um, yeah, it was really a magical experience. So what I love about this is, yes, so the reason why I think retreats are so powerful, because it is an opportunity for you to retreat from your norm yes to, to take yourself and put yourself in another environment that you are not used to.

So you can break some of those habits, and you give yourself permission to be something that maybe at home you'd be like, well, why am I doing this? Why am I thinking this way? I love that, but. I love the fact that you also are showing us you can do this in your own home. You might not have 11 days to yourself, but you have an hour.

Yes, you have a weekend. You know you have a day. It just shows the power of how we can make these choices on a daily basis to say, I'm turning off the tv, I'm limiting my content, I'm choosing it [00:10:00] intentionally. I'm putting my phone on. Airplane mode. That's brilliant. Yes. Yes. I am carving out this time and I'm just, I'm curious, what did that feel like to, to gift yourself that environment, but to be in that kind of stillness and be that disconnected for 11 days?

You know, I, I'd been. To the jungle of Peru for 11 days by myself, uh, many years before that. And I've had, I've, I've always been sort of drawn to solitude and I've always enjoyed being with myself. This was twofold. One, I was waking up every morning with anxiety and sort of depression, and I knew it wasn't mine.

It was actually my soul saying to me. The fact that you are continuing to listen to other people and [00:11:00] take into consideration what they think about your life. Instead of listening to me, this inner voice, this soul, you know, that's what's creating this sense of discord and discomfort and your life. And so shut that sound out, that noise out, it gave me an actual, it was actually like a permission slip for me to be able to say to everyone in my life.

I'm not gonna be available. And so for me it was actually empowering more than it was uncomfortable. I think for a lot of people it can be really uncomfortable to initially disconnect in that way. I have since disconnected even more. I pretty much live with my phone on do Not disturb. People are constantly like, uh, are you ignoring me?

Am I, you know, am am I un like, have you blocked me? It's, I go straight to voicemail every time I call you, and it's really because I know that my nervous system really needs that space and that silence and that opportunity to really expand. And so [00:12:00] it, it really was an empowering experience for me more than anything.

So. I'm curious, did you always, was there a particular time where you kind of realized that you needed more wonder in your life? Like, is this something you've always sought after in your, in your, your life, or, or did this come about when you kind of decided to start the podcast and you. Did the sabbatical?

Yeah, great question. You know, no, I would say I wonder has not been something that I have naturally been drawn to. I do think that I have an enthusiasm for life and I'm an incredibly sensual in nature, so there's a real aspect of how everything looks, tastes, touches, like there's a presence. I feel that our senses can bring us into that.

I. That I love and that I sort of, I don't wanna [00:13:00] use the word strive, but I intend to be in that present dynamic as much of my life as I can. Um, I would say it was really coming out of that toxic relationship. I had several other experiences that occurred in about a five year timeframe where. I was basically ostracized from family and friends, and most of that was based upon my belief system, my, um, spiritual approach.

I grew up in a really conservative, fundamentalist Christian home and lots of dogma. And there was a lot that I had quieted and silenced in my own voice. And then I think also in my, in my wildness and my feminine nature and my playfulness, because I was trying to be the good girl and [00:14:00] fit into the right box and follow all of these rules.

And as those relationships were sort of being taken from me, I. At first it was a difficult experience, but I realized that there were more and more opportunities for me to start to really tap into and listen to what is it within me that wants to be expressed. And so through things like that soul sabbatical, um, and then, you know, just my life after that, looking for these moments throughout of where can I really feel the connection.

Of the soul and the body. So to me, that's really what wonder is about. I feel like we can experience wonder in the body as a human, but that's the soul. Getting to experience what it's like to taste and touch and feel and have these human experiences. And that feels like wonder to me. So where wonder can be in the tiny little things like the taste of a juicy peach, you know, [00:15:00] running down your tongue.

But also there's wonder in the presence, in the stillness, in the soul, where the human's actually having the soul experience of just being in that stillness and that presence. And I think there's kind of a dance between the two where the wonder can even be the things that are really profound. What I call portals of transformation, really intense experiences, things that most people would look at as undesirable, death loss, transition, menopause.

All of these things are actually opportunities for us to tap into. What is it if I look at this through the eyes of wonder instead? And it was just a real natural sort of movement into that. I think, you know, I'm turning 50 in September. I'm definitely in my perimenopausal age right now and, and I'm really recognizing how much of my life I am setting [00:16:00] aside and finally listening to that inner voice.

And as I do that more and more, everything is. Reminding me just how fascinatingly wonderful it is to be alive, to be human, to be in the, in these bodies with these capacities, and to be able to experience the little things like a beautiful sunrise or the super intense and difficult things like, you know, a cancer diagnosis.

So it's, it's such a sharp or doubled edged sword, but to me, you can find wonder in almost. Any capacity and any realm. It's just what lens are you looking at life through. Okay. I, I don't even know what to say. I'm just like eating this up. Yes, yes And yes. Um. Yes. There's so many things that, there are just so many things that you said.

It made me think of the poem that you shared. Mm. And I thought, Ken, you're not doing this to me. You're [00:17:00] not doing it. I'm putting on my mascara and I'm listening. And you're reading the poem. Yeah. I think her name was Andrea. Andrea Gibson. Gibson. Gibson. Gibson. Gibson. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. And that was. I had to stop what I was doing.

Um, for those that that are listening, and Ken, I'd love for you to, you know, share it as well, but it's, it's talking about the gift of being a soul in a body. Yes. And how when that moment passes for us, which it will for all of us, how the soul will long for. These things that we probably just overlook, um, the, the, the, the, the sensation you feel when you hit your funny bone, you know?

Yes, yes. It made me just stop and think like about that feeling and the fact that that is something that the soul will be like. I'll never feel that again, and it's hard for me to put words to it. What a beautiful way to look at this life. We've been [00:18:00] given, but I'd love for you to talk a little bit about her and, um Yes, absolutely.

Yeah. I actually came across Andrea Gibson is the poet, um, through Glennon Doyle's. We can do hard things, podcast. And there was an interview, um, with Andrea and her partner and basically. They were, the poem itself was actually written when they had, um, Lyme disease after the fact they were diagnosed with ovarian cancer.

And then actually just passed, um, a couple of weeks ago. A few weeks ago. And that was around the time that I read the poem on my podcast. And the poem is called Tincture. And one of the things that I was really. Touched by is the way that Andrea lived after this cancer diagnosis just completely full of life.

And every [00:19:00] single experience was seen through the eyes of wonder. It was this, this moment of not only could this be the last, but how can I actually. Move into this as if it's the first time I'm experiencing it. I think if we can look at things as both the first and the last. In the first, it's looking through the eyes of.

Curiosity and the, the eyes of the child and the innocence and the playfulness and the excitement for what this might have in store for us. And if it's the last moment that we might be experiencing this, then it's just really like, how much can I soak this in and really let this seep into my being so that I don't lose it?

And the tincture poem talks about how. Much the soul will miss the things that the body's able to experience. And of course it's the beautiful things, but it's also the things like the pain and the funny bone and the goosebumps and the things that [00:20:00] are ineffable, indescribable if you're not in this human body.

And so I think it really helps us to recognize the. Uh, the divinity in our humanity and in the body instead of us always trying to kind of be out of it and expand past it, or open, you know, to a, a, the five D and who wants to be living here in the 3D anymore. I really feel like being in these bodies is such, such an honor.

And such a divine experience. And, um, that poem just really brings me back there every time in those moments that you feel like you might be wishing that something were different. Yes. Recognize that your soul will one day miss this. Mm. And what an amazing way to walk around in life. Absolutely. From that lens, that point of view, especially when you're in mid, you're, you're in midlife and you're starting to feel those aches and [00:21:00] pains and the, the body is, you know, constantly reminding you that it's here.

It's, it's a really cool way to think of it, like this is a gift to be able to feel and to be able to see and have all these senses and interact with others and feel grief. Um, you know, all of it. It's, that's why I love this concept of, of wonder because if we can shape our world through that lens, everything is a gift.

Um, it you, instead of, I've said this a few times in the podcast instead of midlife crisis, I like to coin it as midlife curiosity, because if you can get curious. About everything. There's no in to it. And couple that with mindfulness, which is kind of what you just described, having the mindfulness of realizing that I'm able to touch and mindful eating and, you know, intentionality in your life, it just, it takes what we might overlook or we might see as just the norm and it can [00:22:00] make it magical in an instant.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So, Kenny, can you tell us a little bit about your pilgrimage to, to, um, Egypt? Sure, yeah. You know, I had been called to Egypt for a little while, just kind of had that feeling that it was, it was in my future, but no real plan or idea of how that was gonna happen. And I was actually just.

Well, at the end of last year, I actually had a very similar experience to what you did leaving corporate America. I left my medical license and I was a practicing naturopathic doctor since 2009, and so I basically retired my license and stepped into this life of surrender of really saying yes to whatever life was gonna be bringing me and trusting that if.

The [00:23:00] animals are gonna be provided for, then I too will be provided for. And so this was a real step of, of kind of stepping off the cliff and like spreading my wings and trusting that there was gonna be something there to lift me up once I did that. And so it was shortly after really stepping into that, that I came across the trip.

But the thing that was really fascinating is, um. I had made this decision the day before I discovered the trip, and the decision was to really cut. Some strong ties that I had to, what I believed was a sense of safety and security, and once I cut those ties, it allowed me to free up some funds that I wasn't sure what I was gonna use them for, but they were gonna be there just in case I needed them on this.

Trip of surrender. And the day [00:24:00] after I discovered the Egypt trips that was happening, and it was over the five five portal. So we were there over the May 5th, um, you know, numerology portal. And the five five is about transformation and really like spiritual upleveling. And we actually spent the morning of May 5th in the king's chambers.

Um, or in the king's chamber of the pyramid as a private group, and we were able to kind of be in there and chanting and over the 5:55 AM timeframe. So we were in there from like 5:00 AM to like 7:00 AM and. The, the experience itself was truly a magical experience. Um, what I would say is it wasn't so much what happened while I was there, as it was what happened once I came back, it really felt to me like it was the opportunity to initiate something.

Um, I [00:25:00] really went without. Any true intentions, I wasn't sure what to expect. I was kind of just surrendered to what was gonna happen. Very similar to my experience when I went to Peru and worked with Ayahuasca, but it was. Just being on those sacred lands, I would take my shoes off and walk barefoot through the lands.

And just being there was, um, I feel like there was just an energetic shift in change that happened for me. It woke something up inside of me and coming home I created, you know, a, a real safe space for me to have many days of integration after that. And I feel like that was super powerful. That's. Very similar to like what my Soul sabbatical was, is really just an opportunity for integration and connection of the human and the soul parts.

And that's really when things started to kind of open up even more. Um, it was an opportunity for me to really heal a [00:26:00] lot of the masculine versus feminine. Kind of battle internally. And then also, um, to release some things that were related to the, the pains that came from my upbringing and kind of the patriarchal controls of the fundamentalist upbringing that I had.

But then also, you know, what that meant for, for being a woman or in a female body for that as well. So there was a lot of healing on a lot of levels, and I don't even think that it. S complete. I feel like it was just sort of an initiation and once you've been there, it's like it just continues to unfold for you.

It feels like it's something that I can say. Um, similarly to the gene keys, I do, um, quite a lot of contemplation in the gene keys, which is sort of part of, or similar to the, the human design. Yes, that I know you love and are [00:27:00] so savvy in. Um, but it's the same. It's like when I was there and then also when I'm contemplating the gene keys, things like that.

It's like I can feel that there's something shifting in my DNA. It's like I can tell that I might not be cognitively aware of what's happening, but I know that things are changing and shifting and I, I can just sense it. Oh, I'm curious, who was your host who. Yeah, so the host that, um, I went with, her name is Joey McCune and she is of Sacred Journeys.

She usually go, she's been over there like 30 times, uh, leading pilgrimages, and she typically has like. Someone that's co-hosting with her and all different kinds of people. Um, the co-host that was with her, which is how I found out about the trip, was through Danielle Laport. Danielle Laport was with her.

And then this one actually had two co-hosts. So Danielle Amos was [00:28:00] also part of this group. So there were really three people that were sort of curating that trip. Um, but I discovered it through Danielle LaPorte and then Joey McCune is really the one that. Orchestrates the experiences. Okay. I, I ask only because I had someone on my podcast earlier who does pilgrimages to Egypt.

Really? Um, Dr. Katya, and, and it sounded so familiar. I was just like, if that was your host, I was gonna throw my microphone. But seriously, it's, and it's something about Egypt. I just keep hearing about women going to Egypt. Mm-hmm. And what happens. But what you were saying sounds so similar to my experience in, I, I did a, um, episode on that.

Very similar. Like I didn't know what to expect. I just kind of surrendered. And yes, there's this, for me it was a, what I consider more of an energetic shift within me. There was, um, which I still feel to this day, I still have that connection to that moment when I was [00:29:00] there and I had what I'm calling breakthroughs.

So it just, it sounds so, so similar. I, I just, for people listening, I, I'm telling you, if you have an opportunity. Find what's calling you, wherever that is. Whatever it looks like. But go, go by yourself. I know some people are concerned about traveling by themselves. Um, it's fun to travel with people, but there's something about experiencing this on your own.

You know? 'cause you're really stepping into the unknown in so many different ways and that's part of the growth and it's part of you showing yourself, I did that, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely. I actually love traveling solo. You know, it's great to be with other people and, and I was of course on a pilgrimage, so I met 16 other humans that ended up being friends and, and soul, soul sisters.

I there, you're right, like I think that when you travel alone, you're really only with your presence. You're not necessarily in [00:30:00] conversation with someone else or, you know, disagreeing about where you wanna have dinner. All you're doing is engaging with the life around you. And it's, what I love about traveling is whether it's the culture or the food or just the people.

For me it's the animals. I'm, you know, constantly giving food and water to the animals. I used to live in Thailand and I brought two dogs in a cat home from there. And you know, it's, but it's, when you travel alone, you can really. Engage with the environment that you're in and the people around you and experience it in such a presenced way.

And so I would encourage anyone to do that. And yes, if you feel drawn to something called, to something like listen to that voice, I, that's how I felt about going to Peru. It's how I felt about going to Egypt. It's how I feel about going to Costa Rica, which is the next place that I'm headed. And, you know, it's just, there's a [00:31:00] reason that you, for, for you, Tracy, there's a reason you keep hearing Egypt like it keeps dropping in and those are the little signs that eventually you're gonna be like, okay, I'm, I am listening.

And then when the opportunity presents itself, there it is. Say, yes, follow it because you don't have any idea how magical the other side is gonna be. It really, these are just such gorgeous portals and opportunities for expansion that is only possible if we're willing to surrender to the unknown and to, and to the fear.

To the fear that, oh, it's, I can't afford this, or I don't, I can't take the time for this, or I can't do this on my own. On the other side of the fear is to me, where all the magic lies. Yes. Life begins on the other side of your comfort zone. Yes. It's one of my, one of my favorite quotes, and I would almost argue, can you afford not to do it?

And I know that sounds so cliche and so eye rolly, but when you think about what's on the other side [00:32:00] of coming out of a, of a retreat, I mean, it's years of therapy, it's ev, it's everything, it's friendship like at no other level, it's so many things. Hmm. But I wanted to touch on, you've mentioned integration and embodiment, and I know in your podcast you talk about it as well, and I just resonate so strongly with those words because I'm learning more and more that that is the key.

It is to get out of the mind, drop into the body, experience things. Let your body lead, let your mind follow, and that is where the magic happens when you read about things. I'm an avid reader, it's great, but it. When you can stop and integrate it into your everyday life, truly embody it, fill it in your body, trust your body.

There's nothing more powerful than that. There's no better way to experience something. Um, I just wanted to get more of your thoughts on that. Absolutely. I completely agree with you. I feel like you know, [00:33:00] all of these experiences that people go on and sort of look for these pilgrimages and retreats and vacations and all of these things, plant medicine journeys.

They are not the end destination. To me. They are just, like I mentioned with Egypt. Those are the initiatory aspect of this portal that's opening, and I think that really the power comes in afterwards with the integration if you don't bring it into your life. Then it was just an experience and you might have a memory about it, but it really wasn't that transformational.

If you can really let it settle into your thought patterns, your way of being, um, or your DNA. That's where you really start to see this shift, your actual experience in life. And I, I just think that so many people are missing the magic of these [00:34:00] opportunities because they just jump back into life the day after they return and, and there's.

You know, you imagine like it's gonna take some more time. All that happens like there, there needs to be some time for those places that really impacted you to kind of come into your consciousness. It's, there was so much when I was in Egypt, we were so busy. We were all over the place. We were traveling in all different ways.

We were in all sorts of sacred lands and places. People and so much going on that like there wasn't the space. And I think that when you come home from something like that, give it the space that it deserves and allow at the time to like really settle in. And I would say, I don't think it's just about these kinds of experiences.

I think that integration of anything in life is really how we learn and how we. Can no longer need to like [00:35:00] repeat these lessons over and over because we so mindlessly have an experience, go right back into the old way of being, have the experience again. Learn something, but then go right back into the old way of being.

If we can really allow for this time and the space and the stillness for all of these life experiences to integrate into us. To me, that's, that's really what they're there for. Yeah. And then we have that wisdom for moving forward and truly being different people living in a different way. Yes. And you know, hearing you just kind of walk us through that made me realize yoga.

You know, I, I do yin yoga, um, once a week. Um, I do yoga twice a week, but one of them is, is yin yoga. And at the end we always end, end in savasana. I think that's the correct term. And that's where you're, you're laying, it's also called corpse pose. Yes. [00:36:00] Because you're just laying still. And they always say that is, it is the most important pose of all, and it's always like, really, like how is that possible?

But it's that integration piece. You've just come to your mat, you've done all of these asanas, these flows, these stretches, and then when you're in that moment, I think that that is what we're talking about. It's the integration piece. It's having it all come together. It's taking a moment to move from that back into, you know, waking up back into your, to your real world.

So as you said, I think that there's no part of your life where you don't need that embodiment piece, that trusting the body. And, and to add to that, I think that what you can also do in those moments is not only does it give it the time and the space, but you become more aware. Like when you're in that stillness and in that silence, you can really feel the expansion, you can feel the energy that's moving through your body.

And yoga and, and [00:37:00] movement practices are such a beautiful representation of that. You can just feel sort of that expansion that happens. Yeah. You can feel the energy moving. And so it's the same thing. It, it helps us to be more present and to feel more embodied and to be able to really experience what's going on in these subtle realms that we, again, normally are.

There's too much noise for. Yes. Can you talk to us a little bit about Ayahuasca? I've been so interested in that. I've had a friend who recently just came, came back from experiencing that and I just cornered him and was like, tell me all about it. So I would love to hear a little bit about, if you can tell us what it is for those who've never heard that word before and what it was like.

Yeah, definitely. Um, well, so Ayahuasca is one of the plant medicines, an entheogen, a psychedelic, whatever term you wanna use for it. Um, it's. Traditionally done in the jungle. Um, Peru is one of the primary places, [00:38:00] and that's where I went. And it's an indigenous plant. It's a vine actually that's mixed with another plant and a brew is created and you go into a ceremonial space and there's a shaman there.

The shamans actually. Have spent years in so much silence and solitude. In the middle of the jungle, the, the true shamans, the indigenous shamans, they go out with a machete and that's it. And they are communing with the land the entire time that they're out there and learning from all of the plants. And so when they then move into ceremony.

They give you the brew, you drink the ayahuasca, and then you lay on your mat and surrender to what they call the grandmother plant. And you're sort of opening yourself up to a deeper teaching. And it's, uh, not for the faint of heart. You know, [00:39:00] there's a lot of plant medicines that can be used recreationally, but then can also be used in a much more ceremonial, intentional way, sacred way.

I would say ayahuasca, not anyone is going to be using it recreationally. It's a powerful teacher and there's usually purging involved with the experience, but it's also, um, one of the most profoundly beautiful experiences that I've had. The shamans actually seeing what's called an ikaros. It's this indigenous language that my understanding is they're actually working with the energy of the plant and then they're working with the energy in the person that they're singing to.

And you can just feel the removal, the thinning of the veil. I would say, you know, I'm not someone who has like visual experiences, so anytime I've worked with plant medicines, I don't [00:40:00] see geometric shapes and colors and things like that, like a lot of people do. I more sense and feel, and I had some of the most profoundly beautiful experiences.

I felt love and peace in such a deep way that it felt like it was encompassing me. It was a truth where I knew in that moment that. Not only am I this, and I came from this, and I'm going to return to this, but that's true for everyone. And I remember thinking in that first moment of feeling that I wish that everyone could feel this.

I wish that everyone knew this truth because then we wouldn't be suffering so much with these human sense of anxiety and depression and what's my purpose and all of those things. And I'll say that my most powerful experience [00:41:00] with Ayahuasca was one evening when I was feeling a sense of gratitude in my body.

I, the only way I can describe it, and one of the things that they say about truly, um, you know, sacred. Type metaphysical experiences is that they're ineffable, that there really are no words to describe them. And so that's certainly true for what I'm about to say. But the best way I can describe the, the feeling and the sensation that I had was that every cell in my body was vibrating with gratitude.

I was so in love with who I am as a human with. Exactly. You know, nothing mattered. My body was completely contorted. I was crying. I had snot rolling down my face, and yet I felt like the most beautiful being because everything in me was just pure gratitude. And it was such a, a, you know, I've, [00:42:00] I've actually heard that that's like.

One of the highest vibrations. Yes. That sense of gratitude and it just felt like every cell was excited and in gratitude for being alive, for being in existence in my body. And um, yeah, it was, again, these are some gorgeous experiences. I had some profoundly uncomfortable and difficult experiences too.

And you can be certain that if you're working with Ayahuasca, you will have both. But they're all there to teach you and to break you open, and then you need the integration on the other side. I am so curious and tempted. I just don't do well with being sick. I'm, that's the part that makes me, I just picture being far, far, far from home and I get just so, so, so ill.

But I understand that they have, I think doctors there, right? Pretty safe. Yeah. Yeah. You, you're really, you're not sick. You are, you know, the purging is really, for me, what I [00:43:00] experienced it at was more of an energetic purge. Um, in fact, there was one experience where I was having an internal battle. Soul to ego.

And I knew that once I purged, then that was like me releasing part of this ego. And every time I was close to purging, it would, you know, not come. And I just kept, I'm like, I'm done with you. You're going, it's time for you to go. And so it's, it's not a like a stomach bug and it doesn't last, you don't feel bad the next day.

This is really just the experience you purge. And not everyone does. And not everyone does every time. But it is quite common and it's again, just part of the medicine. Okay. That, that may be in my future. It just sounds so interesting. So can I, I was just going to close with, um, just the human design piece.

You are a one three manifesting generator that's, you know, all about living life with [00:44:00] variety. Being adventurous, doing all the things, pivoting often. Yeah. The three line is all about trial and error and just allowing yourself to get out there and do the thing, and there is no such thing as failure with a three line.

That's what I love about it, because you can't get it wrong. You can't fail anything you do. You learn from it and then when you learn you have that lived experience, it becomes kind of your medicine to help others. So it's just, I would just, I was just curious if you found any of that to be true, if that has showed up for you.

Oh my gosh. A thousand percent. One of the things that I'll say, um, about the human design, when I first discovered it and found out that I was a manifesting generator and a one three, I didn't understand as much what a one three was at the time. Yes. But what I did learn just about being a manifesting generator gave me permission to be who I am.

I, you know, I have so many interests [00:45:00] now that I understand my, I'm a one three and a three is, you know, experimenting, adventure, like always out and like you said, trial and error, just figuring it out, trying it on. Um, I mean, to me that is all about like changing, pivoting, trying a bunch of different things.

And so that is the same thing that a manifesting generator does generally. So it gave me permission that it's okay, that like I'm a multi interest. Person who doesn't always wanna stick with something for too terribly long because I'm wanting to experience something else. And as a one, being kind of an investigator, I have been one who deep dives into so many things, but specifically with my spiritual kind of approach or, or road.

I'm so grateful for it because my desire to learn and to investigate and read and listen to podcasts and research, it's really opened up [00:46:00] worlds for me, and so I love the. Permission that the human design gives to be exactly who you are designed to be. It's why I am contemplating my gene keys right now, because that's an even, you know, sort of deeper, more, I feel like more spiritual kind of component.

Um, maybe a little bit more nuanced. And I, and I'm loving it. And I also love like the little things like the. Digestion and the environment. Uh, my environment is a passive mountain and that makes total sense to me. It's why I am always finding myself going to the mountains and liking the space and the solitude and, um, you know, indirect light.

I, most people come to my house and they're like, can we please turn some lights on? And I'm like. Oh, it's beautiful. I like it Like this, you know, candlelight and twinkly lights and just like give me low lighting and now I know that that's how I'm designed to be. So, hey. That's right. And even, and you know, with the mountains [00:47:00] piece, it doesn't have to, you know, it does.

Human design doesn't have to always be so literal. It doesn't mean that you have to move to a mountaintop. You could, but it's also just elevated spaces for you. Mm-hmm. You know, it's just being at, in the penthouse suite, on the top floor, in the top bunk bed, just. You know, it's, it can be applicable to wherever you are, you know, in your, your life.

Um, and yes, the Jean keys are powerful because I love the concept behind there are gifts and there are shadows and there's the city, you know? Um, so it's just, it's a rabbit hole, but it's a beautiful experience to go through 'cause you learn yourself at a new level from a different perspective. Um, and it's so empowering.

Absolutely. It's beautiful. And I just would like to say before, um, we move into your fast questions. Um, you know, I, I feel like to me, like what, what I love about you and the work that you're doing is. It's beauty and wonder to [00:48:00] me are so similar. Yes. It's like really, like whether I, I think they're synonymous.

Um, I agree. You know, I think love and beauty and wonder are all pretty much synonymous and I just think that you can decide if you wanna call it love or you wanna call it beauty, or you wanna call it wonder, but it's, it's. Really experiencing everything with that lens of appreciation and gratitude. And, um, so I just thank you for this opportunity to be here today.

Kenna. No, I, I thank you. You're speaking my language there. It's absolutely one and the same. I've used those words interchangeably because the, I love the word wonder though. 'cause it, I think it helps. When you hear beauty and beautiful things, I mean, that could be so many different things, but the words wonder and awe.

It's a feeling. It that we all can relate to that moment when you are standing there looking at, you know, the, the pyramids of Egypt. Yeah. There's no way to describe it, but [00:49:00] awe or wonder or, um. So, yes, I, I, they're one and the same and I just want more of it for people because you can instantly change your world when you are approaching life through that lens.

Absolutely. You sure can. Alright. It is time for our beautiful fixed speed round, which is traditionally the slowest speed round ever, but we'll see how we do it. So what, what makes you come alive? Hmm. There's so many things. Um, I. I would say really just wonder, keeping. Keeping. To me, ceremony is another way that I'm able to really tap into wonder and the way that I intentionally move through each day of my life and really take the moments to create kind of a sacred and ceremonial.[00:50:00] 

Connection to the little things, to the everyday moments. And I feel like that's just like life living each day, each moment through me, and that's really how I feel the most. Uh, animated and full of true life, kind of looking at the world through the eyes of the divine and imagining what it must be like to experience this small thing through me, and that's kind of wonder in, in a different, in a different form.

I love it. I love the concept behind ceremony and life living through you. Hmm. What's a song that instantly shifts your mood or makes you feel something? There is a song called Love is the Medicine, and it's by Lucas Mack, and it is a song that I cannot help but. Move to every time it comes on, it like perks up my [00:51:00] soul.

It feels excited. It's like one of those songs that you wanna just be driving down the freeway on the way to a vacation with the windows down and the wind in your hair and it's um, yeah, super fun, super beautiful. Love is the medicine. Love that. Love is the medicine. Okay. Is there a book that cracked you open or stayed with you long after the last page for sure.

Um, actually The Surrender Experiment by Michael Singer. Oh, yes. Uh, it was a book that really inspired me to be living the life that I'm living now. I was reading a book and I was sitting on my couch. And I looked up on my bookshelf and I saw the book sitting on the bookshelf, and I hadn't started it yet.

And I thought to myself, as soon as I finish the book I'm reading, I'm gonna read that book. And the next morning I woke up. It was, uh, it was a weekend and I was gonna spend some more time reading. And I thought to myself, why are you gonna finish this [00:52:00] book? Like that book is calling you? So I grabbed it and I started reading it.

I read it faster than any other book I've ever read. I think it took me a day and a half to read it. And it's all about his life. It's an autobiography. But he at a very young age, started surrendering to life. And it's a magical journey, and it was such an empowering thing to read. It was upon completing that, that I made the decision to say yes to Peru and Ayahuasca.

And that was really kind of the beginning of the next step of my journey. And it's an inspiration for the journey that I'm on now with living this surrendered experience myself. Um, so it's, it's resonates and reverberates through my bones. I love that I've read The Untethered Soul, but I have not read the Surrender Experiment, so I will have to to do that.

But that was the most manifesting generator answer ever. Was it? Yes, because Oh, tell me why, because you said, [00:53:00] I'm gonna start reading that after I finish this book. And then you woke up and said, why do I have to finish that book first? You know, manifesting generators. They're here to pivot. Yes. You don't have to finish the thing.

I love that. You, you, you followed that, that urge of No, we're not finishing anything. We're starting it now. That's, there you go. Awesome. Love it. Um, what's, what's your favorite little indulgence or guilty pleasure? Something that just brings you joy. Um, I really, I really love, really earthy, dirty barnyard red wine.

Oh. Um, so I love, um, Spanish and, and Italian and French wines, but like I've been told by a sommelier that what I'm looking for is a barnyard. So I really like that. You know, kind of dirty, big. Earthy red wine. Okay. I'm gonna have to try to order that. I've never heard of barnyard. Alright. What's one thing that always reminds you how [00:54:00] beautiful life really is?

Hmm. Nature. Um, specifically the creatures of nature. Yes. I am so touched by just watching the life. Live through them to see, you know, the, the birds flittering around, the squirrels running up and down the trees, the animals that are so connected to their true essence. I think they're such beautiful examples of really living in authenticity and living in complete faith and trust and surrender to life and being carried by life.

I like to use the analogy that, you know, squirrels in the summer are not fretting about where the acorns are gonna be come fall time. They trust that they'll be provided for when it's time, and in the meantime they [00:55:00] live to the fullest and they experience life and are full of joy and play. And, um, I think they're just a really beautiful example as are most all of the creatures of Gaia.

Gosh. Okay. We're officially best friends at this point because yes, I am. I am the world's biggest animal person. Ah, I always have been. I walk around an amazement of them. They're my favorite things in the world. From my home. I, you can get a glimpse of a fox or deer or, um. You know, squirrels, uh, birds, just everything.

And when I have a chance and opportunity, it stops me on my track. And I enjoy it in the moments that they're there and they're just, we get, I'm, I'm, I am so much gratitude that we get to share this earth with them. Oh, same, same. They're such beautiful teachers. Oh. And I feel like they give us so many, you know, I've really had a number of experiences [00:56:00] recently, um, with.

With some different animals that have just sort of appeared and I'm just really starting to take note of like when they arrive, slow down and figure out like, what are you here for? What are you here to show me or to teach me? And you know, I'll go and if I don't already know kind of what they. Represent, I'll go and do some research and discover, you know, what, what finding them might mean from a spiritual or an energetic perspective.

And it's really starting to show me like how I feel like nature Gaia is communicating with me through the animals. And it's been a really beautiful experience. So I'm hoping to, to deepen that in the years to come. Same. So, you know, where can people connect with you and learn more about Endless wonder or join your community?

Yes. Well, you can definitely come over to the podcast. Endless Wonder. It's Wonder without the E. So just [00:57:00] W-O-N-D-R. And it is currently on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, and you can find me on Instagram as well at Kenna Brook Wonder again, no e in Wonder, but there is an e after Brooke.

And, um, I would love to connect with your audience because I certainly feel like. If they love you, they're gonna also love endless wonder. And what a beautiful, um, what a beautiful way to just cross pollinate. I couldn't agree more. You will absolutely love, uh, Kenna and her podcast and her world, and we'll include everything in the show notes.

Um, so just thank you. Thank you so much for this conversation. It's a reminder that beauty and wonder are here for us every single day, and it's everywhere. We just have to slow down and notice. So until next time, stay high on life. One beautiful fix at a time.

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