Stance of Curiosity
Child Psychologists Joelle vanLent and Gillian Boudreau tackle topics related to schooling in our modern times including navigating impossible expectations and the power of curiosity in education, empowering educators to redefine success, overcoming fear and shame and their effects on school communities with open dialogue, and balancing high demands with compassion and understanding.
Podcasting since 2025 • 28 episodes
Stance of Curiosity
Latest Episodes
"It's Not Your Fault!" What the movie Good Will Hunting has to teach us as far as the toll of offering support.
In today's episode, Joelle reflects on re-watching Good Will Hunting, the 1997 movie classic, on a recent flight. She and Gillian consider the themes highlighted in this film of the real psychological and energetic toll of supporting some...
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42:32
"Fear Barfing" and "Parallel Process:" Putting words to the difficulty of working with parents.
Joelle and Gillian explore a concept from the world of psychotherapy and how it could play out between a child, their parent, and a school professional. When a child expresses their anxiety related to school demands to their parent, their...
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Season 4
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Episode 1
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40:07
Two wrongs don’t make a right but sometimes they do make us feel better. Why??
Gillian and Joelle do a deep dive into justice seeking behavior, which can present as someone treating others the way they were treated or seeking to make others feel like they are feeling. It turns out there are a lot of reasons why we m...
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Season 3
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Episode 8
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36:19
What really is inclusion and how do we know if we are pulling it off?
Our lovely and talented guest week, Lauren Hough Williams, offers her expertise as an educator and expert in creating inclusive educational experiences for neurodivergent students. Lauren helps us see inclusion as a mindset that can manif...
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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51:40
Productive Venting vs Fear Barfing: Strategies for managing the adult dynamic of working well with kids
Gillian and Joelle talk about the tension that can emerge in professional teams that are in the midst of intense work and limited time for debrief and connection. There are some realistic and practical approaches that can help us effectiv...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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37:51