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Behind the Bodybuilding Prep: Stress, Weight, and Friendship

Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph Season 3 Episode 12

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Ever gained 4 pounds overnight despite doing everything "right"? You're not alone. This episode dives deep into the science of weight fluctuations and how stress impacts our bodies in surprising ways. We share a shocking real-life example of gaining eight pounds in 48 hours during bodybuilding prep despite strict diet adherence and increased cardio—proving that your body's response to stress is more powerful than you might think.

Beyond the scale, we explore what true self-care actually looks like (hint: it's not face masks). We discuss how establishing boundaries, recognizing what genuinely serves you, and making choices that honor your authentic needs creates the foundation for real personal growth. As we navigate our thirties, we've discovered a clarity and comfort in our own skin that wasn't possible in our younger years, allowing us to show up more authentically in all areas of life.

The conversation shifts to breaking generational patterns, especially in parenting. While we can't shield our children from life's difficulties, we can equip them with tools we never had—therapy, open communication, and permission to process emotions in healthy ways. We laugh about the struggles of establishing new habits and routines while acknowledging that finding systems tailored to your specific personality is more important than following someone else's blueprint for success.

Whether you're curious about bodybuilding, navigating relationships, or simply trying to establish healthier routines, this episode offers both practical insights and the comforting reminder that you're not alone in your struggles. Subscribe now and join our conversation about finding balance in an unbalanced world.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome back. I was loud, but it's cool, that's me.

Speaker 2:

I get really aggressive sometimes. A little bit I get excited.

Speaker 1:

I know it just comes out. I love it.

Speaker 2:

It's like very few times where I have like it's your tiggerness. Yes.

Speaker 1:

It is, you get real excitable. I do Only around certain people I find, sometimes I'm not that I find sometimes I'm not, that's fair. I feel like in the gym I have like resting bitch face always, but it's just because I'm like dying Well you're working out hard. Yes.

Speaker 2:

I've seen you work out. It's fucking exhausting just to watch you. I was doing hip thrust the other day and I like collapsed. I'm sure a lot of people were watching that it was over in the corner.

Speaker 1:

It was fine. I actually had Lily help me with my drop set, so I'm like alright, when I do these 12, then you take that weight off, and then I do 12 more and she helped me and I, just like, almost broke out in tears, which doesn't usually happen. It almost came out an emotional release.

Speaker 2:

You need one. It wouldn't be bad for you to cry. The last time I cried was maybe not in the gym, though people would be like whoa, it was like there um, yeah, no, the hip thrust, the stored, stored trauma in your hip area, though I heard that my hips all messed up again too, and I was like what, what's new that's happening? Why is my hip acting up? I mean mine's probably just oh, I'm talking to men again. That might be why.

Speaker 1:

We're going to circle back around to that.

Speaker 2:

I just made that correlation actually no, but it is weird how it's the hips.

Speaker 1:

It is the hips and mine definitely. The five leg days a week and all the posing.

Speaker 2:

That's so, and everything I'm doing.

Speaker 1:

And the cardio. Oh, we're up to one hour cardio in the morning now. Oh, no, 30 minutes at night on top of my lifts. And then we pose twice a day.

Speaker 2:

We are two weeks out, ladies, and if there's any gentlemen listening? And then me. I have gained like 10 pounds okay, since I quit working at texas roadhouse because I'm not running around and my steps are low and I need to get my shit together. I'm going to try next week to actually put in some effort. Weight is really irrelevant.

Speaker 1:

You want to hear something fucking crazy Always.

Speaker 2:

Probably one of my top five favorite things to do is to hear and read crazy shit.

Speaker 1:

Well, this is going to be my body, my science experiment. We're going to talk about what happened to me this week, why I freaked out, why stress definitely has a lot to do with oh for sure weight and cortisol and weight fluctuations. So it's no secret. I'm in prep, right, okay. So post miami to lean we were filling out, brought a full package to tangy. They're like slightly leaner, but not like miami. So we're finding a happy medium. We're cruising in lean, filling out. So I was like sitting at 225 carb. My weight was like 155, 156, 157, just cruising right, like staying the same. We're like, we're hammering it hard consistency, love consistency.

Speaker 1:

Um, maybe I dropped it down to 150. Anyways, we were at 225. We'd been lowering down, lowering down and then we just hit it hard. We're like, all right, adding pm cardio, dropping to 100 carb. My body the next morning was like, fuck you gain four pounds. I was like, all right, I drank a lot of water yesterday. I was a thirsty, I was was a thirsty girl, so maybe this is just some fucking water weight and we'll see how it goes. Same thing Killing it, no carbs, killing it with the cardio Woke up another three pounds heavier. We are now seven pounds heavier in two days, but yours is like water retention no, mine is baked goods Not necessarily, not necessarily.

Speaker 2:

Listen, not necessarily Yesterday alone. I had a cake pop, okay, but let me finish my story, or I'm going to finish it, I'm going to forget it and a chocolate butterscotch cookie.

Speaker 1:

Just yesterday. I love that for you, but that's like all you eat in a day.

Speaker 2:

So then technically the calories are like same in same out and McDonald's and dinner. I was a pig yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2:

Opposite and dinner I was a pig yesterday, okay, but I enjoyed it opposite, I know, and we both gained weight.

Speaker 1:

So what is the lesson really um that are you back down, though.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I'm fine.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, stress is a huge thing, but you're also not doing an hour and a half cardio and you're not no, but my stress is what makes me eat more.

Speaker 2:

When I get stressed out, I eat.

Speaker 1:

But it all goes back to your body can fluctuate, it does not matter.

Speaker 2:

But like by what? By five pounds daily. Right, I was eight pounds.

Speaker 1:

That was two days, 48 hours.

Speaker 2:

Eight pounds in 48 hours Because technically you can fluctuate up to or below. Is it 10? I in 48 hours. Because technically you can fluctuate up to 10 pounds. Is it 10? I thought it was 5.

Speaker 1:

No, it is 10. I thought it was 5 per day. It is 10.

Speaker 2:

I weigh myself every single morning because I accidentally got to 160 once and nobody told me. I was really fucking mad at everybody when I realized that. I was fat, I'm like right now, 155.6.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but you're also how tall, how tall are you 5'6 and I have a lot of muscle.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you just have a larger body frame. Like, let's be real, when we face swapped, we learned a lesson that our bodies are not the same size.

Speaker 1:

But to that point I am almost 10 pounds more than my stage weight last year. Being leaner means lean mass, so I put on about 10 pounds of muscle, all muscle.

Speaker 2:

So as you put muscle on, your weight goes up and as a wellness girl, you are not 120 pounds, you are like you look fabulous at 160. Well, that's all different. Look like an.

Speaker 1:

Really, I'm more like violet the one that turned into a blueberry, that is what I look like at 160 because I am short I will show you what I have a small body frame before I started bodybuilding I was 140 135.

Speaker 2:

I've seen you be everything.

Speaker 1:

I was like 119 at one point in time yes, I, I've literally seen you be every size.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy. That's why it's so weird to see you now, because I've seen you be a twig and I've seen you be pregnant Post-pregnancy. I'm trying to be nice.

Speaker 1:

You have seen me at my largest I've seen you in your worst moments.

Speaker 2:

Let's be real, Like in all aspects.

Speaker 1:

The bony stage.

Speaker 2:

I didn't enjoy it. It was not cute. Negative ass. There is such thing as too skinny right and there are certain people.

Speaker 1:

Can you believe I was 119 pounds. That's like crazy.

Speaker 2:

There was, that's my shoulder blades stuck out after I got up to the 160, I over compromised and I got down to 120 and I I can even admit on me that was too small. So you, being that size, definitely way too small. Do we remember that? Do you remember that picture when you were that little?

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

You're in like the white shirt and you have like the perfect little blonde bob yes, yeah, and then yeah, very thin, very thin.

Speaker 1:

I like this better. This is good I love this too.

Speaker 2:

This is intimidating. I'm not going to lie. Why do I? It's super fucking intimidating, really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, like in the good way, like I'm not scared of you, but like kind of it's good that you're my bestie and I want to marry you, so it's fine.

Speaker 2:

And it's just really funny because, like, just imagine like when we go to the mall together and you're just like this beautiful buff barbie.

Speaker 1:

And then I'm just like let's go to box lunch, because I like no shit. That's why people are always questioning which one is the guy, which one's the husband.

Speaker 2:

Let's be real. Okay, you have called me husband for when you had one.

Speaker 1:

That's true and then you just became a stand-in yeah, whenever do you think he's like? Do you think luke is like?

Speaker 2:

because it's like he's like god damn it lazy, I didn't do it. I keep saying no, it's on record.

Speaker 1:

No he's probably like why didn't you marry her? Keep her away from johnny, bravo that?

Speaker 2:

oh, don't put that on me, that that's not fair, we weren't talking. We were not speaking when you met.

Speaker 1:

No, I wish somebody would have warned me about Johnny Bravo.

Speaker 2:

That is a very important point that needs to be very fucking clear. I was not around when he came around, because the second I came around, I told you. I told you from the first time we ever had a conversation about him I was like I do not like this person and you're like, oh he, and I'm like no, I mean it, I mean it, and you always give everybody a chance too much, too much.

Speaker 2:

But I also, for the most part, can read bad people not when it comes to me at all. But like you, johnny brown, literally the second I was like absolutely not, this is gonna be bad, this is bad. I don't know, it was just the general vibe of it. All you know in the beginning.

Speaker 1:

I was really. I tried to get away in the beginning. She's ever yeah, we have bad pickers, but we're doing so good, we're doing so much better she's happily married to a dude.

Speaker 2:

I've never physically threatened like that's great that's huge, what's fever. I have physically assaulted dudes to keep them away from the ladies and if necessary, I would do it again. So you gotta pass that test. And johnny, bravo. Would not have passed that test. Pasted sorry, we've been gardening um would not have passed that test. Pasted sorry, we've been gardening um would not have passed he also thought that you liked him I. That angers me, like literally to my core the way that I had to hide.

Speaker 2:

That's my core workout is the amount that I tense up when you say shit like that to me I did one time tell him that we called him johnny bravo, and he did not care.

Speaker 1:

I know that I was like he's like, but I don't have a nickname I'm like, actually you do the whole.

Speaker 2:

I did one time tell him that we called him Johnny Bravo and he did not care. I know.

Speaker 1:

That drives me crazy. I was like he's like, but I don't have a nickname. I'm like, actually you do.

Speaker 2:

The whole thing with him, though, is that he won't go away.

Speaker 1:

No. Like we didn't talk about him a lot for a minute there because we were like, okay, I was so far removed, we were in a good spot.

Speaker 2:

We were great Trial's coming up, so it was going to get brought up again eventually anyway, it's inevitable because he's dumb and didn't take a plea. But people love and I don't get this people love to share information about exes with people without them asking. I had it when me and prison Eric Carter broke up and he got my name tattooed on him and I found out from my dad's boss, like why do you know that information? You?

Speaker 2:

know what I mean, because people when people find out the crazy stories, they get invested. That's why true crime is so popular. Fucking, they want to know everything. I'm here for you. I'm one of those people.

Speaker 1:

I also want to know everything, are great investigators, like if you need to find anything out, like I don't got the time and I don't have the skills or the research never been into that, but I have friends that are like, just in case you want to know. I went down this rabbit hole and I have every single thing. If you just say the word and I will give you any information you need to know. It goes back 30 years.

Speaker 2:

I'm like dude. I personally, I personally have this person blocked for like a reason, Like I don't want to know, I don't need that, I did not want to know about the tattoo Right. And then you, currently with Mr Johnny Bravo, he, he has balls because he is trying to reach out to every single female in the greater Spokane area, because, because everybody knows, he's going through, something he's going through, we're getting hit up.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm getting hit up, but I just you're lumped into it, because when I get it, you get it, um, immediately, immediately. So there's like no point, it's like I open it.

Speaker 2:

There is nothing a single person has ever sent to heather that I have not seen. I don't think.

Speaker 1:

I even finish reading it before it's screenshot and send.

Speaker 2:

And then I finish reading I'm like, oh, this is for us, I think, my favorite is when you send me something and then immediately call me, to the point where I haven't even had a chance to look at it yet, because you literally just sent it to me and then immediately fucking call me.

Speaker 1:

I was waiting for an answer and I didn't get one. You didn't get get one, so I was in point two of a fucking second. So she's all like she's dead.

Speaker 2:

I have to call her patience is just not something I have.

Speaker 1:

It's a virtue that's like a I don't think aries have any sort of patience. I think they're just fiery bulls who mash around and they're just a force to be reckoned.

Speaker 2:

That is a very like accurate description I have recently okay not wrong, my bonus child, I love him.

Speaker 2:

He is definitely. He's full on my child. I tell him all the time, you know, like that, I'm the captain. I'm like I'm your mom now, all right, like look at me, do you see me? I'm your mom now. And we both laugh and it's fun. And uh, we've been making so many strides, we got his birth certificate, we got social security card, we got his fucking driver's license, even after his dumb ex-girlfriend stole his results and he had to take the test twice because she's a crazy bitch and she's trying. Yeah, it's a whole thing.

Speaker 1:

But so I got him in horoscopes Mom, take care of your daughters.

Speaker 2:

Please take care of your daughters. Don't make them be crazy Like yeah she was trying to break his truck.

Speaker 1:

Don't let your sons be assholes. Your kids aren't. But I'm just saying because they know better, I would whoop their ass because their dad is an asshole. They see what it does.

Speaker 2:

There are two different types of boy moms like there's the boy moms that like my son can do no wrong, yes. And then there's the boy moms like me, who's like I'm gonna hold your ass accountable, but I'm gonna also set you up so you know how to live your life correctly.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that's why our sons are so they're so good because, we were broken yes, oh, my god, I know I, yeah, my childhood was not one for, like, I mean, from the outside may have looked great, it was not great on the inside. I am. I like managed to deal with that and like grow and then me and luke had this family that I'm like, look at our kids, we're not gonna fuck him up. And then he had to go and die, listen, and there goes that. But you know, that is so sad that that was one of my thoughts, but like now we can look back and be like.

Speaker 1:

I remember sitting on that back porch in the midst of all this happening, just looking around and like because you know my dark humor and just being like, well, there goes, fucking them up, and now Kinsley is dealing, but we have some therapy lined up that gets to deal with.

Speaker 2:

Let's see that right there. That's the fucking difference, right? So we went through shit as kids too, and we didn't get help. And the difference that we're making with our kids is that, like, yes, they've been through some shit, some really serious shit, but we're doing something about it. That's the fucking difference. That's how you break the generational shit.

Speaker 1:

It's like all you have to do is give a shit. I guess you can't stop bad things from happening. You can't. And if anything, they're set up now to know that it's okay for catastrophe, like the fact that you can still move on that Like yes let yourself, feel your grief, which is a huge lesson.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Like it sucks that they had to learn it that way, but like that's a huge lesson.

Speaker 1:

Kinsley, I think, is her anger is from that and it's so funny.

Speaker 2:

Because she was so young.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I thought she would be the one that would come out unscathed, and I think the Johnny Bravo more so. That whole thing ending in that traumatic like re-amplified everything and then that I think we're all kind of transitioning through grief again. I don't know. I never allowed myself to like absorb and be in it the way I have these, like last several months and just being alone and like doing the work and like doing the internal, like we were talking earlier. I'm like, look, I noticed this about myself.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to start working on this, Like it was so like.

Speaker 2:

I love getting older, like I know people hate it so much, but like I feel like I am the most myself I've ever been in my whole life. I feel I'm obviously the most educated I've ever been in my whole life, and that's on multiple levels, not just on my nerd side, not on my corporate America side, but like is in self-care, like redefining what self-care is, because it's not putting on a fucking face mask, like I mean, maybe in the moment it is because, like, maybe you just need that, but like real self-care is like care.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh, I love that. That's what it is. It's like figuring out what. What do you actually want? What is actually good for you, what is serving you, what isn't serving you? Like the, the fucking boundaries man.

Speaker 1:

Like boundaries is the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life, but like it's amazing what peace you can have just from having boundaries yes, um, I'll share what I've realized that I feel obligated to people yeah my time, which my time as a widow with three children in prep, trying to run businesses, trying to get further and work on myself and heal like my time is very limited, yeah, so we've had to cancel on each other twice in the past week yes, oh, being two weeks out, being two weeks out like it's, it's hard to find time for anything, let alone other people, so we shouldn't feel obligated.

Speaker 1:

I think we put a lot of strain on ourselves in general, like we should be doing this, we should be doing that. Well, no, we should be taking care of ourselves.

Speaker 2:

That's why and, honestly, that's why we canceled one of the days, because I could tell through the tone of your text message that you were spiraling, because you were just overwhelmed with all the things that you had to do. So I was like we don't have to do this, like, if we take this off of the table, like what does that do for you, right, yeah's, let's prioritize you over this right now, because you're going through it, you have you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

All the weight shit was happening and all that, yeah, yeah, and I was like I told you.

Speaker 2:

I was like you need to just rest. Just, your body is reacting this way because it's stressed out. I was like let's just not. I was like let's just not not get together and you just just sit on your ass and just allow yourself to do that for the most part I did.

Speaker 1:

I mean as much as I could. Anyways, yeah, it's funny that my cardio time in the morning I enjoy so much because that's when I watch my shows, or I can watch shows that like I can enjoy that.

Speaker 2:

There's no crazy issues.

Speaker 1:

Well, now I'm watching Georgia and Jenny and I don't know why I relate so much to this. I'm like in another world I've never seen it.

Speaker 2:

I have heard of it um it's actually really good.

Speaker 1:

It's like, um, I don't relate to it, like I'm hurt, but I'm like, oh yeah, single mom, like you know, mom, that she like had a sword passed and she like, well, dead husband, but she killed him. But you know different different but there's there's lots of like twists and turns. It's really good. It's a very, it's a very dramatic, very like. There's some theater.

Speaker 2:

You know it's a drama easy show that's good to get lost in okay, so I don't watch a lot of like my kids are giving me crap, because basically all I watch now is baking show. I watch cooking shows and home improvement shows, and those are the only two things that I watch.

Speaker 1:

I can't do that right now, or I just make myself hungry I.

Speaker 2:

The problem is I, you, and I'm not even hungry, like that's the problem and when I'm doing it. I'm like. You, fat fuck, why are you eating this right now? And I'm like because it's delicious oh, I found your soulmate. Let's tell everybody I know, I thought she sent me a video and it's like point of view, you're eating an entire pie for lunch on vacation and the dude it's just him and a fork and a whole pie in front of him, and she's like but why is this?

Speaker 2:

you, though, like did I just find your soulmate? I'll ask so hard because I was like I could probably put down a whole pie for lunch depending on what kind of pie.

Speaker 1:

It is you're like first boston cream pie, by the way that's technically a cake, but it I love it.

Speaker 2:

Boston cream, it's called boston cream pie but it's a cake um the fact that you like a cream pie.

Speaker 1:

Listen, fuck off. I was about to say you can ask for a cream pie on your first date, but let's not, no, let's definitely not do that.

Speaker 2:

Let's listen, I don't want to be a dateline episode I already had to ask my youngest. I was like hey, can you just like, do me a solid and not murder anybody while I'm alive, because I don't want to die, being known as the mother of a murderer. And he just laughs. He's like yeah, I can wait till you die. And I'm like that wasn't exactly where I was going with that, but well played I mean it's been a joke since he was little little like.

Speaker 2:

I brought him to my dad's house in stripes one day and he's like, oh, getting him ready for jail. Huh, because of you know who, his entire father's side of the family let's be real his uncle's in jail, currently serving three to five, maybe this time, I don't know. They keep telling us that and he keeps getting out early, so um washington is like, or spokane's like, overcrowded.

Speaker 1:

They're not even like taking people in.

Speaker 2:

He's in Idaho. Oh well, idaho loves people.

Speaker 1:

Idaho for drugs, so I feel like he should be there for a minute.

Speaker 2:

A little bit and it's like his eighth time, so it's crazy, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Ironic. We know somebody else who's in trouble in Idaho for drugs drugs.

Speaker 2:

We know lots of people. I know lots of people who are either currently in jail or just got out of jail, johnny, bravo making his way I know it makes me sad, because I really have a feeling that he's not going to get any jail time and that makes me, that makes me really upset?

Speaker 1:

only because they have like he deserves it. But being a felon follows you forever. I know Really that's the takeaway.

Speaker 2:

Maybe some house arrest, I mean maybe some restitution Honestly the restitution, and people knowing what happened so that he can't go back to screw over somebody else.

Speaker 1:

That's the real takeaway I actually am happy that the women are reaching out, that are curious. Because you can save them. Let's be real. This last one that I got.

Speaker 2:

She was like and I know her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she was just like hey, I seem to have caught the attention of your ex, just wanted to know before like, should I block whatever? And I'm like, I'm very just to the point. Yeah, there's no reason not to be. Here's the bullet points. If I were you, I would run.

Speaker 2:

Liar, unless you don points. If I were you, I would run liar. Don't like liar?

Speaker 1:

cheater thief thief, thief, eight times over will steal your stuff out from underneath your nose, pawn it and then still tell you that they love you and then still make you pay for everything yeah, just steal from you, just take your stuff make you pay for everything you every vacation. So disgusting that he was in my home, creeping through my things, taking my jewelry, pawning it, taking my shoes, selling them to plato's closet. Like how fucking low do you have to be?

Speaker 2:

and he's not gonna get any jail time.

Speaker 1:

Well, you don't know that, you don't know that, you don't know that.

Speaker 2:

You don't know that. I hope that. I hope that. I'm positive into the world.

Speaker 1:

I pay attention to the world because I read Maybe you should talk to the justice system because they feel like. They feel like people who have not been felons before deserve a chance to not go to jail.

Speaker 2:

And instead it's crazy, I didn't even know there was a first-time felons program. That's weird that that's a program but he does have to do.

Speaker 1:

There's like a whole list of things you have sure, but still the fact that you're giving somebody the opportunity. That's because we live in washington yeah, yeah, where, uh, prison?

Speaker 2:

aaron carter wasn't considered unemployed. He was considered a state home parent, even though I was paying for the children to go to daycare.

Speaker 1:

I mean I yeah, I love that it has gotten this far and they have taken such great care of this case right because they didn't have to.

Speaker 2:

Let's be real, they could have been like that's a you issue so many things to deal with.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean the sheer amount of. When you look at the case, it's like, obviously, the deception involved, the restitution paperwork came out to 22 000, that's so much something that's so crazy to be like oh, I love you, give me all your money I got my earrings back, so if I wouldn't have gotten those back, it would have been an extra 4500 that's crazy that you own a pair of earrings that cost that much money. I'm glad to keep the receipts for everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Like thank goodness that you're like a hoarder.

Speaker 1:

You're like a weird hoarder, though You're not a hoarder of things.

Speaker 2:

You're a hoarder of paperwork and pictures. Yes, that's it Paperwork and pictures. You have everything.

Speaker 2:

Well, I learned a valuable lesson after Luke passed Like, all I have is videos and pictures, and I'm so fucking thankful that I recorded everything, everything like him driving, him just doing things with the kids, him being asleep like I have so much that that's good, I love that, that's important, yeah. The thing that's so weird to me, though, is like we used to record everything every time we hung out, whatever we were doing. We hang out a lot, and nobody would know. I don't take a lot, we don't take photos, but it's like we don't even think about it.

Speaker 1:

I think it's just like a different age and I feel like social media is a different tool now. It's a burnout for me, like I don't enjoy the there's just so much hatred and we used so much on snapchat where it was like I would just record and like put my story up yeah, where it wasn't there for everybody forever yeah, and now it's like I never use snapchat.

Speaker 1:

The only reason I have it is so that I can save all the memories. I need to find out a way to like just download all of them.

Speaker 2:

I'll just keep it snapchat to talk to motorcycle and send ugly photos of myself to my sister. There's the only two reasons why I use snapchat.

Speaker 1:

I think lily got on my snapchat and took some pictures of herself. Actually she did this one. She's always like she'll take my phone and start doing pictures and then I'll open it up and I get photos like this. That's creepy and that.

Speaker 2:

What the hell? That's super creepy. All the filters, that's funny. See, that's what I do to my sister. I find the ugliest, creepiest filter I can and I send it to my sister, that one. Yeah, I don't like that at all. That's Lily as a man, okay, but the the whole thing. It's the face that she's making. It's not even necessarily just the her as a man part, it's the face that she's making in the photo oh, it's so funny, it's so bad I did have my niece, uh, call me on snapchat.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even know that that. Does that not look like luke a little bit? Yeah, my eyebrows are a little bit bushy, but like the bottom, the chin part oh, keep this a secret.

Speaker 1:

Don't say what color it is, but do you want to see my new suit? That's coming oh, we have a new suit reveal um new color so and that's all hand done right yes, radiant physique wear is my suit sponsor. She is rachel. She's amazing. She does all that by hand. Custom suits that's gonna take a long time. Yeah, she's really good at it. She's made my miami one my pro day, my pro winning suit the royal blue that I won.

Speaker 2:

I love that you had to look.

Speaker 1:

Well, I was like what do I call that? My brain stopped working, literally the no carbs. I'm like what color do you call that? Royal blue?

Speaker 2:

okay, I needed to like this royal and then that reminds me of um liar liar, where he's like this pen is I don't remember that that's because you don't watch it forever. Shocking I like more drama, psychological, weird, creepy shit yeah, I know, I like shit that makes me laugh, see, you'd think we were different.

Speaker 1:

We aren't. No, like you, think that you would be the one that likes a weird cycle, like psychological I mean I do, I really like.

Speaker 2:

Uh, we're into like all the paranormal shit yes, like um that movie together.

Speaker 1:

Have you seen the previews for together? Yes, so before I want to see it I'm.

Speaker 2:

I'm having a hard time because before I saw the preview, I read an article about how they basically 100 ripped off the idea from a pre-existing movie that wasn't popular because it didn't have famous people in it, and so that, and like they're being sued over it because they're like it's almost an exact replica of this other movie that's already out.

Speaker 2:

They just thought nobody would notice and they thought nobody would notice, because it was not a popular movie, because again it was low, like it's not famous people. So I kind of am having a hard time. But I did see the preview and the preview does look bad.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like fuck, should we watch it? I feel like we should watch it, and then we'll like review it and talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Maybe we should watch both of them and then we can do a compare and contrast.

Speaker 1:

Done, I'm all. I love movies, I love theater. I'm texting you right now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I won't remember besties. You hear us, we're doing this, I am. I am on uh adderall now, um, because is it making a difference?

Speaker 2:

officially diagnosed adhd. Um, no, yes and no, so like there are moments where I can remember things that I wouldn't have normally remembered, or I can do a task in a logical way, so that's cool, but it's not consistent. I will still lose the remote while holding it. I still will walk into a room and have no idea why I still can't find my car keys. It's been over a month, I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

Little update I might need a higher dose, I think. So, yeah, um little update on my routine and trying to get more done it. It's been great um routinely has been helping me. The app and so I just routinely yes, okay and it just kind of like you can create your own like a to-do list. Yeah, and so it will, and you can set the time so it reminds you what to do?

Speaker 1:

do that, and then it'll like that's the thing I just forced myself to, and then it became like more of a habit. So then I get all my posing, my stretching, everything done and it's timed, and it tells you when to do it. It gives you like you can push pause if you need to, and then, as you're doing the streaks and you're hitting your days and you're doing it, you get to sprout a tree and your tree grows.

Speaker 2:

So it's kind of like so it's like you're, because I've seen the ones where it's all like oh, it's like a pet bird oh, I tried those ones and I was like I don't think I care enough about this bird no, this one is like cool, because it's also like, not like, oh, you're killing it.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

It's just like here's your progress, I am basically a tamagotchi and I am not doing a good job.

Speaker 1:

Let's just take it way back. Let's take it way back and be like feed me, water me, put that in here routinely.

Speaker 2:

Be like wake up, see my water my problem with shit like that is I feel so bad when I don't accomplish something, and then I beat myself up, and then I accomplish less things and then I implode oh, this is something you should journal and dive more deeply into.

Speaker 1:

I can't journal. But if you forced yourself to?

Speaker 2:

Do you know how many journals I have that I bought for the sake of like, okay, I'm going to do this shit, and then I just didn't. I even bought that grievance journal and I was so excited about it because it's all like dark and demented, like me, and I was so thrilled and I don't think I've ever even opened it.

Speaker 1:

What is it that?

Speaker 2:

stops you from doing it that's a super good question, one.

Speaker 1:

I really hate writing, so then why do you think that writing is something that you'd enjoy if you hate it so much?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, because I really want to finish writing that book that I started, that I don't know if I'll ever finish.

Speaker 1:

Why don't you just like set a timer and just free write and not have any pressure?

Speaker 2:

Because I can't do that.

Speaker 1:

You were just full of excuses. What can you do?

Speaker 2:

No, I've tried.

Speaker 1:

I understand the general idea of free writing but, like my, brain gets too hung up on the decision fatigue If there are too many options, my brain shuts down and I can't do any of it. Do a Pinterest or chat. Gpt, give me a journal prompt for the morning.

Speaker 2:

Pick one I have books that have journal prompts then why don't you use them? I don't fucking know, I feel like you're your own I know I am, I can't help you because I am, I can't help you, I can't help you I am.

Speaker 1:

The coach of me is just here like trying to help you and you're just like, I'm like it's you.

Speaker 2:

I know. I know it's because I'm not self-motivated is the biggest problem, like I'll do it if someone else is doing it or making me do it.

Speaker 1:

Not true, because I told you I'd be accountable for you and you just were like we're going to ignore that.

Speaker 2:

But you didn't do it either.

Speaker 1:

Yes, have been every single day. Do you want to see?

Speaker 2:

you haven't sent me a photo of you doing any of it.

Speaker 1:

That was the whole thing. If you did it, I would do it, and then I got nothing from you, so I didn't do it because I asked you if you were doing it and you're like no, and I'm like okay, well, just still, I can't even zone. This is why I need a routine.

Speaker 1:

A routine is important for people like me, but we fight it tooth and nail I know, but I think once you just start it, then it's like oh, this feels good, and then it's a dopamine hit and then it's like okay, I want to keep doing this because it feels good and I feel more accomplished and I feel better. I'll try. Instead of like, oh, it doesn't work for me, it's like but you do enjoy and it does work, but you just have to do it?

Speaker 2:

no, because the problem is I've done it so many times and every single time I end up spiraling because of me not getting things accomplished.

Speaker 1:

I can't hear you. I'm literally eating the microphone. No, you're not, it's in my mouth. Okay, take it off of you.

Speaker 2:

That was awful.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry to everybody listening to that. It's literally touching my face. I know, but there's a part that was on your chin and not actually in your mouth so it sounded like you were far away. Well would you rather me tell you now or later, so everyone has to hear it.

Speaker 2:

Everyone has to hear it anyway, because I already did it.

Speaker 1:

And now it's fixed.

Speaker 2:

I don't even remember what the general idea of this episode was supposed to be about. I don't know. But now it's just you being. We just been rambling.

Speaker 1:

No, now it's just you being like an eeyore and not acknowledging the fact that, like you could listen. I'm acknowledging the fact that you could if you wanted to that's the problem but like you just lied to yourself. Because you're like you want to, you're like I want to, but you say I think you need to find. Like because I think you're conflicted, because you say you want to but you don't want to.

Speaker 2:

Hundred percent.

Speaker 1:

So I really don't want to you need a journal about what you really want, about what you want in life, and figure that out Like what you want, because, like, if it doesn't work for you, find something. What if it's drawing? What if it's just fucking sketching? What if it's something that just gets you?

Speaker 2:

The whole point is just taking you out of your head and just embodying your body and being like a check-in. Like where am I at poetry? Um, when I was younger, because that was a good outlet for me, and then my mom found my poem book and she read my poems and she specifically asked me to stop writing poetry.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, fuck you mom. Sorry, You're not here anymore. Apparently it was upsetting. Now she can't take them from you. Yeah, I don't think I could write poetry now but I could try.

Speaker 2:

I will try.

Speaker 1:

Okay. I'll pick one of my journals because I have a lot and I will send you a picture of me doing it to make you feel bad.

Speaker 2:

Okay, perfect, I need the guilt. I'm basically Jewish, but I'm not. I do it am and pm. By the way, I need someone. That's too much.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'll send you am. Does am work better for you or pm? That's a good question. I'll send you both.

Speaker 2:

I'm only committed to once a day.

Speaker 1:

It's going to start giving you angst going to bed. Probably I'll just do it in the morning. I already don't sleep well. The nighttime is more just like a day.

Speaker 2:

I love the nightlife I like to book in, like decompressing.

Speaker 1:

I'll let this go. Do you have a good personal development book? No, no.

Speaker 2:

No development book. No, no, no. You know one that would be really good.

Speaker 1:

That's how I know that adhd medicine is kind of working, because I remembered the name. Yes, exactly, we've talked about this how many times probably a hundred.

Speaker 2:

They probably think that you're being sponsored by that book because of how many times you've told me to fucking read it i've've had to put that book down and you have sent me links. You have done all of the right things.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I still have not.

Speaker 1:

I think you're going to feel so seen, I think you're going to feel like, oh my God, this is what I've needed, because it was like eye opening to me. Okay, hold on, and this is not a let's just like hash on lacy episode is it, is it not, I'm just a little spicy right now because I don't have a lot of carbs that's fair I would wait till we get it, wait till we get to eat some desserts together again, and then I just, you were, so relaxed during that episode, so good, that lemon mousse cake thing.

Speaker 1:

I love lemon desserts. Oh, and also even after all that stuff that we ate with my refeed, you know, because I had a couple days or whatever my weight was like, still the same.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, mine wasn't see you can. That's because you work out and I don't that I have to. That's something I have to do. I give myself a shameless plug right now.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna do it um, I am now training out of hardcore, so please come lift with me, come train with me. Packages are available out of hardcore. So please come lift with me, come train with me, packages are available. I will have a I should post this over on my actual personal page too, and I'll do here um a link to sign up with a questionnaire, not a questionnaire, a um application to work with me, and then we can get started. But in person training. That is it, and it's only. Do you do on kindle?

Speaker 2:

um, I prefer not a hard copy, I prefer a hard.

Speaker 1:

I do too because I like to read it over and over again that one's a good one kindle is great because it's convenient if I'm stuck at the doctor's office or whatever.

Speaker 2:

I can read a book, but I get a free ebook every single month through my amazon prime, so I have a ton of ebooks on here. So if I'm buying a book, like on purpose, I would prefer to have a hard copy for those who don't want but it's only. It's only a dollar more for the paperback, and I prefer paperback to hardback actually because you can, you can yeah, it's just more comfortable in the hand and if you like ebooks, um, I do for me doing ebooks.

Speaker 1:

I have an apple, so I just use the libby off of my sale. It's normally 19, it's only 10, 86 the library has a, an app that you can download all their ebooks.

Speaker 2:

So for free, yeah I have that actually because I do that listen. I tried to do audiobooks. I cannot do it no, I can't either. I don't listen out, I to me eventually I love to read, though I do too it makes me sleepy which is a problem, um, because I'm like I don't want to sleep, I want to read the book yeah, for some reason it makes me sleepy.

Speaker 1:

It depends when it is. I've trained my body now to be awake to like a certain time and then I just go to sleep there.

Speaker 2:

I bought it. It'll be here tomorrow, are you?

Speaker 1:

happy. Yes, okay, I'll lay off you all right we have like seven minutes left of this podcast ish, so I have some questions. Oh, we're gonna do some fun, some fun, um, just some fun, random questions.

Speaker 2:

I like questions I would rather answer a question than just free give information any day, because if you ask a question, then you're obviously interested in the answer. But if I'm just like providing information willy-nilly, what if you're not interested in the information I'm providing? That's why I don't like to call people. What just happened? What?

Speaker 1:

was that music on my phone? It's fine, I opened something. Oh okay, these are just like fun questions. Okay, five fun questions.

Speaker 2:

Ask your five fun questions.

Speaker 1:

I'm ready let's do it um. I'll ask well, should we, we should ask each other, sure um?

Speaker 2:

or do you just ask and we both answer? Oh, okay yeah, we get yeah there we go.

Speaker 1:

That works. If you lost me in a supermarket, where's the first place you'd look?

Speaker 2:

For you the supplement area.

Speaker 1:

For you, the meat department.

Speaker 2:

That's actually a smart answer, because I think most people would have assumed that you would have said baked goods. But you are more correct it would be the meat department, because I love cooking. Yes, and I love cooking, yes, and I love cooking things I've never cooked before.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and you always base it around a protein.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's the start.

Speaker 1:

And it's usually a very. It's not a basic protein either.

Speaker 2:

Well, because I have to have variation of protein during the week, I can't just eat.

Speaker 1:

Because you've been watching all these European cooking shows for a year and you have to step it up.

Speaker 2:

I get it shows for a year and you have to step it up I don't know how you meal prep people do it. I cannot eat the same thing every day. I'm like I have to have chicken and pork and shrimp and beef, like I have to have variation in my meals. I can't I can't even just eat different variations of beef all week. There has to also be other types of protein. It's very important. I'm very heated about it.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry that's okay, you can be food is where I get bougie.

Speaker 2:

That I do. I love scallops, I love, I like all the weird, I love. Duck is probably my favorite protein and it is so expensive here. I've never had duck it's so it's like they have a gilded unicorn yeah, I had that when I was there.

Speaker 2:

If there's duck on the menu at a restaurant, I'm most likely probably gonna order the duck. I love duck. It's delicious and I'm very good at cooking it. But it's very expensive and the only place I can find it to purchase it has been the super one in rathdrum and they want like 15 per duck breast per one, not per pair, not a pair of breasts, one fucking breast.

Speaker 1:

Could you imagine if you went?

Speaker 2:

to your surgeon and you're like I want one.

Speaker 1:

I want one breast me well, when I had my capsule contracture surgery, I was like they just redid the one and I'm like they just they made me.

Speaker 2:

They said I had to replace well my member.

Speaker 1:

Mine was like it happened right away that's true.

Speaker 2:

So they just went in and they like no, that was like with they're like yours aren't the safe kind anymore. You have to get the safe kind.

Speaker 1:

I've got mine redone, that's, we got them like redone around the same time did we?

Speaker 2:

mine was like what I got mine, almost three years ago mine was, almost three years ago, crazy because we always do the same things around the same time, even when we don't mean to. That's such a weird thing. I mean, what's the next question? We went off, we did.

Speaker 1:

It's not like we never do that if we switch lives for a day, what do you think I'd struggle with most my job, yeah, I can do a little thing tell people what to do. I got that covered um, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think that you would be like this is mind numbing and you would be so. You know what I mean. Yes, I guess that's what it would be. I would you like to be stimulated right you couldn't just sit for eight hours straight and do like that's what it would be the longest day ever. Hate it, you're right it's not like what the work is it's I would. It's the fact that I sit for eight hours a day at a minimum yeah, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1:

I could not do that. Yeah, I get anxiety, like I think that the anxiousness half the time.

Speaker 2:

You can't sit through a whole podcast recording no, I'm just tired right now without getting up and moving around. I'm tired. Right now there's no up and moving around.

Speaker 1:

I'm tired right now. That's so funny. There's no carbs, oh, and I did an hour of cardio already.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and you already know what I would struggle with Working out, fucking all of it and the food, every part of it, the food, the exercising and the fucking all of it, the social media of it, all, all of it. I would struggle. Okay, like I, I don't want to switch lives with you and I mean that in the best way.

Speaker 1:

If you had to change my legal name, what would you call me?

Speaker 2:

oh god, that's an interesting question. Cinderella, let's be real. It's the only. It's the correct answer. In cinderella, you look enough like her that you can pull it off, and you are her as a person, at least when it comes to your inability to play no, it's true.

Speaker 1:

Um, I would say daria, because you're just like daria, literally reincarnated between the hair, the attitude, the everything and I'm just like the sister, wasn't it the sister?

Speaker 2:

the best friend oh is that? Oh no, you are kind of like the sister. Yes, yeah, we need to watch daria.

Speaker 1:

We have not done it in forever. Yeah, I used to. I in middle school had like one of the when baby doll tees were like a thing, when they first came out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're definitely the sister.

Speaker 1:

And I had a Daria on it.

Speaker 2:

And I was like, oh, this is cute. It popped up on my memory feed I don't remember when, but a couple of weeks ago where it's like when you think you're this person, and it was a picture of Daria. And then it says but you're really this person and it was Louise from Popsburgers. And I was like, oh shit.

Speaker 1:

I need to know Daria's sister's name now.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Off the top of my head I know her best friend's name was Jane and she had the cool haircut, but she was like alternative and you're not alternative. I mean, we call you Quinn, yes, quinn. Yep, yeah, for sure that's you. The only difference is she was a redhead and you're a blonde and you're like fit, and she was just but like yes yes, but like very fitting, that's funny if you could ban one thing from my wardrobe forever, what would it be?

Speaker 1:

I already know what you're gonna say ban something from your wardrobe yeah, it doesn't really come around anymore, but I know what you're gonna say the poof, does that count?

Speaker 2:

I mean wardrobe clothing. That's what I was like. What am I gonna say?

Speaker 1:

oh my god, just because, should I bring them back out? I have not worn them in forever oh, the fucking bell bottom.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I knew you're your hippity dippity fucking bell bottom jeans because, listen, they're not normal fucking bell bottom jeans, they're regular bell bottom jeans and they're cute and adorable and they got the little bit of flare at the bottom. No fucking problem this. You could hide a village under your fucking bell bottom. You're basically an umbrella for the fucking creatures in the street killed me they're huge. They were like they flail like from the knee out it's basically a fucking denim dress it's extreme flair they are extreme, they are fucking extreme and I did not appreciate them.

Speaker 2:

I didn't enjoy them. Um, don't wear them I haven't.

Speaker 1:

They don't fit me anymore.

Speaker 2:

That was when I just had no legs.

Speaker 1:

You were very small then, yeah, luke died.

Speaker 2:

I didn't eat anything and we drank a lot yeah, which surprisingly, I'm like same way.

Speaker 1:

Anyways, weird, um, it's weird how, like you put muscle on, reshape your body, do all the things like I have never put muscle on, even when I okay, listen, I used to work out.

Speaker 2:

This is the thing I've worked out more than I haven't. And even when I go through my memory feed, I have had more moments where I had a gym membership than when I didn't. But after I quit drinking and my pain got so bad, I was like I literally can't do it. And then now I'm finally at a point where I can honestly say my pain is at a manageable level, like we have figured out the fucking formula and thank the Lord because it was touch and go. I wasn't sure I was going to make it, but so maybe now I could probably do it again. But I literally like working out was the most miserable thing for like three years because it fucking hurt yeah, you need to ease back into it yeah, I feel like if, if I had someone to go with me, yes, well, I'm not gonna go if you come.

Speaker 1:

I'm there all the time, but my level is not your level. Last, question, and then we're done last question and we're done to stay best friends, you have to lose either an arm or a leg. Which would you choose? Arm for me, because, uh, these legs are pro you shouldn't share that shit.

Speaker 2:

Um, I would also say arm, um, but I get to pick which arm, right, yes, okay, when we stand next to each other we'd have two.

Speaker 1:

We are outside arms.

Speaker 2:

Then when we stand together, I'm left-handed and you're right, so it's perfect, so it would work out. Oh my gosh all right?

Speaker 1:

well, and on that note, we will talk to you next time. Besties, bye.