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We Have No Idea When Someone Is Flirting With Us
Ever found yourself completely clueless about whether someone is flirting with you? You're not alone! We're diving headfirst into the complicated world of flirtation, armed with hilarious dating app screenshots and our own awkward experiences.
From finger-in-mouth disasters to decoding the subtle art of eye contact, we explore why 72% of people can't tell when someone's interested in them. We take a personality quiz that reveals our flirting styles (physical, playful, polite, sincere, or traditional) with some surprising results—turns out one of us scores much higher on the flirtation scale than expected!
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we examine how differently men and women perceive flirting signals. Men often view mutual gaze as a sexual invitation while women see it as general interest. We discuss how men tend to "peacock" their accomplishments while women focus on appearance, and why being "too nice" when rejecting someone's advances can backfire spectacularly.
Between fits of laughter, we unpack the balance between vulnerability and mystery, how comfort levels affect flirting ability, and why our facial expressions often betray our words. Whether you're a confident flirt or someone who thinks everyone's just being friendly, you'll find yourself nodding along and laughing at our dating misadventures.
Hit that follow button, leave us a five-star review, and join our community of listeners navigating the hilariously complicated world of human connection. Your face might say "cringe," but we promise your heart will say "thank you!"
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my name is heather, I'm lacy and we have such a fun episode coming to you today. It's gonna be fun we've been chatting already, even though we're not supposed to we really suck at that.
Speaker 2:We're always like, okay, anytime it's a pod day, don't say anything to me, and then we spend like at least an hour just fucking chatting before we start like, what time is it?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's definitely 40 minutes over since you've been here yeah, yeah all right. All right, well, we have some. Well, we had some tea to spill, which maybe we'll be telling you guys so many things slip, things happen. There's been some juicy new developments.
Speaker 2:Maybe not juicy, there's developments, maybe it is I think it depends on how you look at it it is.
Speaker 1:It is okay, but our topic today is flirting, yeah, and all the things that go into it. So I did download, re-download um hinge and facebook dating for material, because we have really funny things for material, like not even interest no, it actually is not it was fully, and I'm just like see us on a dating site.
Speaker 2:Please know that we're never, we're never gonna meet in person. No, we might talk a little bit. Oh, I don't even talk, I just screenshot just the initial comment.
Speaker 1:You never ones, no, because I'm like, oh, this is gonna be good I try because, like part of me really wants to, but I'm too.
Speaker 2:I do not have time today.
Speaker 1:Let's be real also. It's a waste of your time.
Speaker 2:It is a waste of my time because I want a very specific thing yes yes, I want a very specific thing and it just does not exist around here. So, but I so I'll start a conversation and then, like the second, they want to meet. I'm like ugh, you're like not fun anymore.
Speaker 2:No, because I feel in my world there is a lack of flirting, but like I don't know, I got older and it stopped. Part of it, I'm sure, is. I don't drink very much. I don't put myself in environments where people can actively do that type of stuff but, like even on the dating sites, mine is very bland compared to what you get.
Speaker 1:Should we just jump in and share some? Yeah okay, these are screenshots from, like the initial messages that people can send you. This is just from the last five minutes that I've opened it. Shut up, seriously. Yeah, these are the ones that I just got since I opened it. Remember I redownloaded it and we started laughing. Oh wow, hello there, darlin, that smile is very radiant. Just wanted to let you know that. What is something about yourself that you used to take for granted, but you now have a new appreciation for?
Speaker 2:see, I do like that. He at least like asked a question to try to create a conversation I feel like that's a good. That's a good way to flirt like, say, your cheesy line, because then hopefully you'll get a little chuckle. That's it. Do you think cheesy lines are cute or annoying it?
Speaker 1:depends. I honestly like don't get approached, besides the weird shit like this, and it's like um, not flattering, because it's like I see where it's coming from and i'm'm like, oh, you wouldn't, you're just shooting a shot because you're behind a computer screen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe I'm just like so you feel it hits different if it's in person versus if it's?
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't think that I would ever. I don't know, I don't like the Internet shit, because I just think it's. I'm all about actions, so I would rather you this sounds weird Just stalk me and find me in person and shoot your shot in real life. Don't actually do that.
Speaker 2:That is literally how you found your last one. He stalked me, he stalked you.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:And found you, and that didn't work out well for you. So maybe we should change our tactics.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, maybe I just shouldn't be on these sites for just for entirely, entirely, um, it's, I'm the one that's doing it wrong, because I don't have any pure interest. I'm just doing it for podcast material, so maybe that's where I'm fucking up. So anyway, here's another one. I hope your day is going as beautiful as you are. That's definitely as standard. Um, I'm just feeding my cows and heading down to the boat and rock for bay. Would you like to join? Now, that wasn't as bad. Those ones weren't bad, those ones were just ones that, um, and then there's a lot of women right there.
Speaker 2:I find offense to that that's fair, because that could be taken different ways oh, it was. I think it's like a it was on in regards to a picture of me with my muscles do you have like a specific time that someone flirted with you that like sticks out in your mind, is like a positive experience?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh I'm going to have. Um, let me think about this.
Speaker 2:That was a long pause.
Speaker 1:No, because, like, I feel like I don't have a lot of like experience, right Because, luke, we were just together for so long, sure, and then I flirted with you regardless I don't know if I picked it up as flirting that's fair. I just think everybody wants to be friends yes, I understand that.
Speaker 2:And then I'm like, oh wait, what I don't know when someone is flirting with me at all like I guess I can kind of pick it up.
Speaker 1:But sometimes in the beginning, like I am, just like I love friends and the majority of my friends have been males throughout my life, with my brother's friends. And just like I don't know. I've just been around more males. I have a lot of female friends too.
Speaker 2:So you're just used to people saying that. I think what you're saying is you're just used to people flirting with you so much that you don't realize that that's not what that is. Is that what it is? I?
Speaker 1:think or maybe I just assume no one's flirting with me, besides things like this um because this is more blatant.
Speaker 2:I think that's part right. If if you're being subtle, I am unaware like, and then if you're being aggressive with your flirting, I am panicked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's no, in between it's either we're friends. It's not going to go well either way we're going to be friends or you're getting the wrong idea. No, do you think I lead people on then? Do you think that my friendliness comes across as accepting the flirt? Yes, Shit.
Speaker 2:I also think that they may interpret your overall bubbliness as you flirting back.
Speaker 1:Yes, Okay, I have gotten feedback from people that like, see me in the gym a lot and then, like they've seen my socials and they're like you look really scary and intimidating and I don't want to talk to you. And then I talk to you and you're really nice. I'm like that's just my like resting gym face. I don't feel like I. I feel like I'm so nice and bubbly, but maybe if you've never spoken to me, you don't know that well, and I feel like, okay, if, if their interaction is while you're lifting fucking weights oh yeah, sometimes I'm like fuck yeah, like you, like you're not.
Speaker 2:I've seen some of the exercises you do. I can't imagine that you're going to have an approachable face on in that moment.
Speaker 1:No, I'm either crying or I look like I'm going to snap you in half.
Speaker 2:At least you have a reason. I'm just not approachable. That's one of the things I love about you.
Speaker 1:I'm like she won't like you, don't worry, she only likes me, it's bad, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:I remember one of my really good friends, tammy. She hated me when she first met me and I was like why? And she's like, honestly, your face. I was like what the fuck? Because your face looks like that. She's like you look like such a bitch. And then she's like and you're like the sweetest person I never got that about that.
Speaker 1:She's like you look like such a bitch and then she's like and you're like the sweetest person. I never got that about you. That's good. I wonder if, because we were just like destined to be best friends from the beginning, I always felt just super comfortable with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, day one.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah. We literally started hanging out almost immediately. Here I am with all my shit and my crazy ass personality here. Here we go.
Speaker 2:I feel like we met and we were hanging out within days, yes, and like all the time, anytime that we could, as soon as we realized we lived like a block and a half.
Speaker 1:We're like this is it, this is it.
Speaker 2:And then our boys, we have chosen, you are the one but remember janessa said that like we were like, destined to be friends like in past lives and all the things so yeah so maybe that is why because, like I, to me you will always just be bubbly barbie, like now you're bubbly bodybuilder barbie. That's a lot of b's. I was like, hold on, I have to pronunciate this, so I don't fucking bubbly barbie bubbly bodybuilder barbie. Yes, you really hard to say bubbly bodybuilder, barbie, it is hard but to me you've always been that.
Speaker 2:But so like I don't know, I I feel like I can tell more if someone is flirting with me, if I know them more as like a person. But like if a stranger comes up to me, even if they're like buying me a drink or something, obviously I don't drink anymore, but like back then, like I wouldn't think anything of it and I just take my drink and walk away. And so now, like self-reflecting later, I was like how many people thought I was an absolute asshole because I'm clueless?
Speaker 1:It's your autism.
Speaker 2:I don't understand social cues. It's a disorder.
Speaker 1:But like I wouldn't know, I wouldn't know, I don't know, and the ones who are mean to you? You're like, I love you.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Social cues Autism. There was this time. You got them mixed up.
Speaker 2:There was this time. Me and my sister went to Curly's for New Year's and it was packed. There was nowhere to sit, and I'm a sitter. I want a fucking place to like. You want a seat? Yes, all the time, even at a concert, I want a seat, like. I will stand up for most of it.
Speaker 1:But you want a seat?
Speaker 2:I want a fucking seat. You want the option, I want the option, yes. So of course we find this gentleman who's like sitting by himself at a big old table and we're like, hey, are you by yourself? And he's like yeah, and we're like, can we sit at your table? Because I wanted to fucking sit and he was a nice enough guy. He let us sit. Whatever, we're drinking together, we're talking whatever, and I'm not super like aware that he's getting flirty until jen tells me. And then I was like oh, okay, like, so now I'm paying attention to it. And he like wants to sit close to me and whatever. And then I yawn and he stuck his fucking finger in my mouth. What? And I lost Wait why is that appropriate?
Speaker 2:Why is that flirting? That is disgusting.
Speaker 1:Where has your hand been?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Also, I don't want anyone's finger in my mouth. No, not even my own.
Speaker 2:I was mortified. My sister's like your facial expression changed so fast. I have autism and I would not stick my finger in your open mouth.
Speaker 1:The mental battle was was like don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 2:I did it, I did it his intrusive thoughts fucking won, but I was so why would you do that?
Speaker 1:what is that? Was he mortified, I don't know? Like a hole, I'm gonna stick my finger in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so fucking weird and then to watch the girl literally go from like to like fuck you. And he still asked me for my phone number after that and I'm like no absolutely fucking not no, I don't even want to sit anymore.
Speaker 2:No I'm like, that's like invade, I don't know you that is so invading my space and so I'm like in my brain I'm like that cannot be flirting, like listen, I know I can't tell a lot, I am getting better like someone rubs my shoulders. Now my thought is, maybe this is flirting. It doesn't even go straight to this absolutely is, but it does at least think. Maybe it is versus like 10 years ago and I'm surprised you let somebody touch you I know I don't, I don't like it. I'm like when does it?
Speaker 1:ever get to them rubbing your shoulders.
Speaker 2:I have never witnessed I do it for other people, not for myself. I know when I hug you you're like cringe and everything in you repels back.
Speaker 1:But it's fine, I still do it. It hurts my feelings a little bit on the inside, but I still do it.
Speaker 2:I don't mean hey, you know when I'm having a really shit day though, because if I initiate the hug, you're almost like oh no, what happened?
Speaker 1:uh, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2:you're like, she's like voluntarily giving up emotion like what is happening okay, but so the whole thing, though, is that brings up that apparently there are five flirting styles, and one of them is physical. Oh yes, I feel like that's a dangerous slope for anybody like. Don't physically flirt with me yeah, what is physically flirting?
Speaker 1:what are examples? Examples of like just touching.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought.
Speaker 1:OK, that's where my brain goes to, I feel like If I really like the person already, but they know like we're already comfortable.
Speaker 2:So like second level flirt, like you've already pre-established a talking relationship with this person.
Speaker 1:Like you know, walk by you hand, touches your back or I grab you lightly, things like that.
Speaker 2:That's fair. I feel like that makes sense when you're flirting within your own relationship, which I do think is very important. Yes, I do think that you should continue to flirt with your partner throughout your entire relationship.
Speaker 1:So I'm just awkward AF at flirting. Yeah, do we have? We have this quiz if we're a good flirt or not. So we're gonna take. I I'm just gonna say right now I'm just awkward, because then I'm like I'm awkward until, like, I know that because you don't have to be because you look like that I feel like shoot your shot baby, you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2:It's a layup for you.
Speaker 1:I don't understand that I always sit back and let the person come to me yeah, I do that too because I don't want to bother someone who isn't interested.
Speaker 2:It is the same reason that I will not make a phone call because I don't want to burden you with my presence even if the job of the person answering the phone is their actual job.
Speaker 2:It's their job. I feel bad, but like, if you call me, then you want to speak to me, so that's fine, I can answer and we can talk on the phone, but me calling you, no, no, no, not, unless I have to the point where, if I do call someone, their immediate response is what's wrong, because I don't do it. Facts, facts. So that's the same reason. Like I don't approach, like I'm like if they're interested, they will come to me, and if they're like, I don't want to inconvenience someone by letting them know that I'm interested. If they're not interested, I get it. Yeah, I get it. Okay, we're going to take this quiz on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Like we did not preemptively read the questions. Nope, we both have our phones here.
Speaker 2:We're both doing it together.
Speaker 1:And I say that I am not a good flirt. Oh, is that the first question? No, no, I'm just saying like, like in general. I'm just saying flirting personality type of mine is going to be like awkward, it's just, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's one of the options. I think the options are physical, playful, polite, sincere and traditional. It says physical flirts use body language. Playful flirts think it's a game Definitely not that. Polite flirts are cautious. I think I am a polite flirt um polite flirts, or cautious I think I am a polite flirt um sincere flirts. Look for authentic connection. I think that's you, and then traditional flirts rely on conventional.
Speaker 1:Okay, mine will be either that one or authentic yeah the connection so authentic or traditional? Yes, yeah, okay, and mine is definitely polite oh, so sincere, or that's what I think mine are going to be Okay.
Speaker 2:Question number one.
Speaker 1:I can tell if the person I'm flirting with is interested. Disagree, okay, I want to say I would say like somewhat agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I can also ignore it.
Speaker 2:I am oblivious.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I smile when I flirt.
Speaker 2:I slightly agree.
Speaker 1:I mean, I smirk now smile when flirting, I often oh fuck, yes, toss your hair.
Speaker 2:That's my signature move, because I have anxiety and it's like my own built-in fidget spinner. I feel like I don't. So no, you don't, because you don't want to mess up your hair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like my extensions. Don't like to be flailed around, so mine, which is so funny because literally mine is not in an attempt to flirt.
Speaker 2:I don't like to be flailed around, so mine which is so funny because literally mine is not in an attempt to flirt. I don't use it for that manner. It's literally to give my hand something to do you just all the time toss your hair, yeah toss and twirl. I do a lot of twirling it's more of a twirl, but then I'll go like that and then I'll grab from the other side and then we're seeing flirting 101 by lacy.
Speaker 1:I love it, it's not meant.
Speaker 2:It's just because I'm anxious. So maybe it's not because I'm scared to flirt. No, it is me trying to flirt, but like I'm not doing that specifically as an attempt.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's just, that's the one that comes out.
Speaker 2:It's an involuntary reaction to my nervousness that I'm trying to flirt because I know I'm not good at it you're good at it I don't know what to say you just twirl your hair and look pretty I find myself laughing when I flirt.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree yes, big time agree uh, when flirting I make more eye contact than unusual conversation.
Speaker 2:No contact makes me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:Don't, don't heather, don't just in case you want to know, I'm staring very awkwardly at her and I'm not breaking any eye contact I'm not looking at you, I can't.
Speaker 2:Next question I literally can't. Others often don't realize when I am trying to flirt with them. I yes slightly. I don't know, you don't know if someone knows that you're flirting. I feel like their body language or language back to you would make you realize that okay, yeah you just don't do it a lot no anymore. No, you there when we were in our spiral, okay yeah, mutually agreed upon destruction of our lives um. You were flirty then, yeah I was alcohol involved.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to do anything I'm like give it, no one cares. No, um, yeah, no, I would say, yes, I could, I can read, and then, yes, trying to flirt with them. Okay, I ask people questions about themselves to draw them out in conversation. I need to get better at this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to do neutral because I get nervous about like what to ask, because I don't want to ask the basic questions, because you don't learn anything about a person by asking them like basic questions. But you got to like get in, to get to a point where you can ask like more serious questions and I get I don't know what makes sense to like what are your ask?
Speaker 1:I have been asked lots of random questions and I'm like, oh, these ones are good. Um, it was vicky a long long time ago. She's like I always end up asking him what their red flags are. I'm like I would love to ask that.
Speaker 2:That's a great question um just be like so what are your, what are your relationship?
Speaker 1:green flags and what are your relationship red flags?
Speaker 2:yes, I did put green flags on my dating profile because I was like I need to look at this different. Instead of saying what I don't want, let me say what I want yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did it help.
Speaker 2:No, because I'm not interested Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay. I frequently touch the person I'm flirting with in some way, such as on the arm.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:That's so funny.
Speaker 2:We should do it one, two, three, answer it together. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:I find myself speaking in softer tones when flirting no.
Speaker 2:No, I find myself speaking in softer tones when flirting. No, I don't ever find myself speaking in softer tones.
Speaker 1:Others say. Others would say I'm cheerful when I flirt. I feel like I'm always cheerful. I mean, I'm fucking tigger.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with neutral. With neutral because I feel like I'm not naturally an overly bubbly person. Yeah, and I can be in moment of when I know people. If I feel comfortable in a situation, then yes, but like if I'm around strangers, no, no.
Speaker 1:Um, I withhold some information about myself. When I'm flirting, I feel like I always withhold information about myself I need to learn to let me tell you.
Speaker 2:But the one time I decided not to tell somebody about my past trauma, I didn't think about the fact that my friends and family love to make jokes about my past trauma.
Speaker 1:Also we have a podcast that lists our trauma. Most of it, some of it, I'm still hiding, hiding some that stuff that's different.
Speaker 2:Podcast is kind of it's weird to announce it to people you won't ever meet. That's true, Like it feels different.
Speaker 1:Also, we're basically talking to our microphones. We love all of you. We know you listen because we get lots and get lots of feedback on it.
Speaker 2:So it was really funny. Okay, cul-de-sac for a second, because last night I was talking to some people about the podcast and I was telling these other people, hey, you guys should start one, it's super fun and all the things. And they were like well, do you guys get good feedback? And I'm like I don't know, like I don't even listen to it, I just go. I was like you would literally have to ask heather.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she refuses, I even send her sound bites and stuff and she's like great, does it sound good, like we're actually funny. You should listen to it once in a while she's like once is enough. Once while I was there. No, all your questions and everything that come in go through me um except except the facebook page that's lacy ran, which I she's gone, so maybe you should assault her over there.
Speaker 2:Dude, I have fallen off, come back. I've just been really crazy busy to be honest. It's not even intentional.
Speaker 1:I need to like send you the blurbs. You can just copy and paste and get them up there. Why?
Speaker 2:don't we? We fucked up when we put me in charge of any of it.
Speaker 1:Like you, should have uncentralized account that connected to everything, because I was connected to so many things. It wouldn't let me to reconnect because I have so many pages like I have. We had to have started it all over again. Not attached to me, but it's under me and I can't link it over to facebook because I already have and I didn't want to do the whole anyways. Yeah, so you guys don't even know.
Speaker 2:But anyways, lacy's in charge of the.
Speaker 1:Facebook. I am in charge of the Instagram. They both have been slacking, but you know what has not been slacking? These episodes. They're up every week. You're welcome. Yes, you have been very good so follow us on whatever you listen to podcasts on, because we're on fucking everything. Now we are on everything and hit that follow, subscribe, like and give us five stars if you feel so inclined. If you don't want to, at least tell us why, I don't care. Any review is a good review. We will listen to your opinion.
Speaker 2:I cannot promise we will implement your opinion.
Speaker 1:Well, we were good when people said we talked over each other, we're like, yeah, we do that because we're excited.
Speaker 2:We have worked hard on that. We still do it sometimes, but I think it's better.
Speaker 1:Sometimes think it's better. Sometimes I just have to get it out because it's gonna go away. Right, I'm gonna forget my comment.
Speaker 2:Yes, um question 12 flirting makes me feel anxious, agree, but if it's somebody that I'm interested in, it makes me feel excited. Really, yeah, no, nope, literally even even after. Like it probably takes me a month after officially dating someone before I finally feel comfortable flirting with them.
Speaker 1:See, if it doesn't feel comfortable, I wouldn't put any energy into it, because if it's not comfortable I feel like right away.
Speaker 2:But I'm a people pleaser so I very much will do what you have basically shown or told me that you like, because I know it's important to you and I am a good actress yeah, okay, well again, we're not the same, but that's fine.
Speaker 1:If the other person is not interested in me, I don't get upset true yeah, I really added that word.
Speaker 2:I enjoy witty banter when flirting. I really agree. Yes, that's why you added really, because you like read it to yourself ahead of time and you're like, fuck yeah, I do. I really added that word. I enjoy witty banter when flirting. Yes, I really agree. Yes, that's why you added really, because you like read it to yourself ahead of time and you're like, fuck yeah.
Speaker 1:I do, yes, I do Like I want to be able to joke and joke around and also slightly roast each other. Yes, and like it's funny, but you got it Laughing at each other.
Speaker 2:But the whole thing is you got to know the? No, it's not. It's not insulting each other and some people don't get that.
Speaker 1:No, it's not it's in a funny, cute way. That's kind of like an inside joke ish.
Speaker 2:I like it when you can create that kind of stuff between realistically, I think you're the only person I flirt with currently, and that's what we do. Is that like we roast each other?
Speaker 1:oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it works for it does, it does.
Speaker 2:In my current situation, you're like I'm just gonna be here for you I did say that I'm like I will be here for you, supporting you now, and I will be here when it ends you walk that yo-yo, you have fun with that. You do those tricks we both know, but we both do it, so no shame you know, maybe I'll be here on both sides of the coin, maybe the yo-yo will just stay. No, you can only walk the dog for so long before. That shit has to come back up.
Speaker 1:Oh God, we've been walking it for a minute now, I know Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, Okay. 15. I make it clear if I have a romantic interest in the other person.
Speaker 1:True, yes agree, neutral?
Speaker 2:Agree, I do sometimes, but I feel like it very much depends on the reaction that I'm getting back from me, because I try really hard to read the room and if I don't feel like you're being active back, I'm not going to then share Like I'm going to step back and be like I'm going to bury that real deep. Yeah. No, same Cause I almost hope that they don't realize what happened.
Speaker 1:I try to find out what I have in common with the other person when flirting Agree. Yes, I genuinely enjoy learning about the other person when flirting Agree. Yes, I genuinely enjoy learning about the other person's interests. Yes, unless it's uninteresting to me.
Speaker 2:That's so funny and limiting. No I love I because. I get weirdly excited about stupid shit. So I get excited to see when other people get weirdly excited about stupid shit. So I get excited to see when other people get weirdly excited about their stupid shit, so I don't care what it is I look too far in the future.
Speaker 1:I'm like if this is going to be like a romantic-ish thing if I have no interest in that. I cannot even stay focused on it. Brayden trying to explain Pokemon to me, my brain instantly goes we're thinking about something else. I get that because that's me. When ashton tries to get me into anime, it's never gonna happen. This is why I will be with a person who is also into fitness, who understands and like we?
Speaker 2:just me, because I don't want to hang out with them every day. I'm like, yes, have your own interest, that's great. Go spend time with other people, that's fantastic, see I want the person. You don't have hobbies.
Speaker 2:That's the red flag I'm like that is a red flag if you don't have hobbies, but I want our hobbies to also be like coinciding, because I, yeah, like that's fair, because like I want someone who wants to go to concerts with me and who wants to go to plays with me and do random weird shit, like when I travel, find something I've never done before and do it just to say that I did it. I want someone that wants to do that, but also I do want time apart, so like you don't have to come to my book club, but I would like you to go to bunco and I realize I just made myself sound like an 80 year old, you also play darts.
Speaker 1:I am on a dart league.
Speaker 2:It's fun see this why I'm so busy.
Speaker 1:I really enjoy reading and things like that, but I wouldn't necessarily make that person. I guess the big ones, I guess. For me it's just more like you have to enjoy. You don't have to be a bodybuilder. Well, maybe you kind of have to be.
Speaker 2:You need to be a gym, bro. Yeah, let's be real, and you need to enjoy the outdoors.
Speaker 1:Yes, Because I gym aligned or whatever and hiking was not their thing. I'd be fine with it because I could take lily, but I would really enjoy someone getting up because I do have lily to be like she will wake up at two o'clock in the morning with me and go somewhere and hike, yeah. But no, I'm gonna do that right like it, just just so you know you don't have to participate in that with me. I think that's one, because I really enjoy that with her. So I wouldn't mind, like that being she's my built-in adventure buddy. But you would have to be okay with that and be like you know, I'm gonna check on, I'm gonna check your location and make sure you're not dead yeah, you know, see, and I love hiking, but I love like I sent, I love like mild to moderate.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like that, okay, and you like I sent this uh, real to yo-yo and I was like this is like I don't. I didn't send you my location because I'm cheating. They sent it so you can, so you know where to send 9-1-1. And it's this girl like climbing on top of this mountain. She's like that's you, it's me, I'm like why is this so me, and I also did that. I'm like here's my location in case I go missing, only because I don't know?
Speaker 2:I mean my kids check my location, my location, with you, because we legitimately need to make sure I'm safe. Yes, always and forever. And me too, yes, god. Yes, because we make bad choices. Yes, do you ever?
Speaker 1:like we are better, but yes, still well, it's always like oh, I know where you are. Yeah, it's like oh, heather is not at the gym or at home.
Speaker 2:I wonder where she's at I don't wonder where she's at, I don't even need to look.
Speaker 1:18 oh, I was on 17 no, we just. Oh yeah, I didn't I didn't put it down because I'm like as long as they align with me, so I guess I should go neutral.
Speaker 2:Yes, because it goes case by case. That's so funny. Um, I often tilt my head to the side during flirtatious conversations.
Speaker 1:I do this when I listen, though, too, I'm always like I do that as a listening thing, but that, okay, that means that I'm interested and thinking.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm so fidgety I change my position like 80 million times, so I'm sure that I do, but again not like consciously, so I'm going to go neutral. Do, but again not like consciously, so I'm going to go neutral.
Speaker 1:I'm going agree not strongly agree, but agree because I do that. But I do that with any anything that I mention. Yes, so when I'm like like tilting and looking, that means I'm actively thinking and absorbing you're like processing what they're saying. Yeah, and my brain goes off in random places, so that means a lot if I'm looking and staring yes, that's.
Speaker 2:I struggle sometimes because my brain will start its own conversation with itself while someone else is speaking and there's nothing. I can do about it. And then I know already, like I'm literally looking at you and you're talking to me and I cannot at all hear what you're saying. Yeah, that happens, yeah, and I'm like I'm just going to have to ask what.
Speaker 1:And once they stop, you know, I've actually gotten in the habit of being like just stopping right away.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, just be like. You need to start again.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah I've done that, then it's like okay, I just have to be honest because I'm gone.
Speaker 2:The boys will make fun of me. They're like, you're literally staring right at me. I was like I heard not a word that you just said.
Speaker 1:I need you to start over, start over let me get my brain processing a lot of it.
Speaker 2:That's the adhd.
Speaker 1:Yes I feel like it's my children. Sometimes, too, I have to answer like five questions in one at one time yes, one person is like talking to me over here, the other one's trying to talk to me over here and I'm trying to have an actual conversation with like an adult yeah, this just happened this weekend and they were all talking to me and I'm like and I love lily so much, but she's like rubbing my arm and playing with my watch and I'm like there's so much going on on this side of me and she's
Speaker 1:talking and then there's a little person on my arm right like trying to talk to me in a high pitched voice and then I'm actually trying to have a conversation and I'm like it was like overload. I was like normally this would be fine with you touching me, but I can't right now and it was just like all the. It was just a lot. That's fair, because you couldn't imagine. But if you had little girls they would just be all over you.
Speaker 2:No, no, thank you sorry. No, I don't know what that's offensive. I know I'm very, very, you know what I mean like they would be boys.
Speaker 1:They would end up being like you, but they're just so much different because, like they would end up being like you, brayden's fine I don't know if that's a compliment heather.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it was either.
Speaker 1:It's not a bad thing. It's just like you, I love you. It just takes a special person. I'm a lot, it's all right.
Speaker 2:I know no, it's okay, it just takes a lot to break down those layers same here. I'm a fucking lot, a lot of walls. I'm a lot, yeah, yeah, a little bit, I'm a lot. It's fine, okay, a little out of it.
Speaker 1:I try to keep a presentable appearance. If I'm in a flirty situation, yes, but I'm also a gym girl, so now I don't do. Comparatively to three, four years ago, basically I was hair done, makeup done. It took me like two hours to get out of the house. I always was full on yeah, accessories, everything. Now I have a five minute face. Fifteen minutes, I'm out the door.
Speaker 2:I care so much less. I went to darts without any makeup on, it's fine.
Speaker 1:It smelled like smoke in there, didn't it? I know yes.
Speaker 2:It's awful, but the place we're going to this Wednesday, no smoke.
Speaker 1:So you can come. Yes, I'm excited. I was like the way the extensions are. It's fine.
Speaker 2:I hate it. The second I get home I have to strip, get the smoke off of me.
Speaker 1:I just braided into the casino for his birthday, I guess.
Speaker 2:Did you? Was that fun?
Speaker 1:It was fun. He was so excited to gamble so we, like, skipped school, took him to the casino.
Speaker 2:I'm letting Deegan skip school too. Maybe I should take him, because I was like I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 1:Worley is the only one, that is 18, and they give you like extra game play to gamble. You're not saving, this is gambling money. And he's like okay, and he lost all of it within like 20 minutes.
Speaker 2:Sure I'm surprised it took 20.
Speaker 1:That would not take me very long, he's very like cautious with his money, and so he walked around a lot, but it's like there's some smoking right, there's a couple like non-smoking not very many which there's not a barrier or anything. It's like a door and then you're in the lobby of the hotel basically with the machines, and so it's like okay, whatever, um, but yeah, so there was smoking. There was like really bad, we didn't stay there very long but yes, take him out there.
Speaker 1:It was fun. Yeah, maybe I'll do that, um okay, last so my hard thing is like I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I would like be self-conscious enough to be like I shouldn't flirt with that person in this state okay, so let's rephrase the question if you knew you were going into a situation where you would be flirting, would you make sure purposely yes, same, because that's fair.
Speaker 1:I guess like okay, also the comfortability. I have enemy of myself now my five minute face. I'm fine. I feel like I look presentable my big thing.
Speaker 2:I need under eyes a little blush and eyeliner.
Speaker 1:I would not do this. Look that. You look at me right now like I just woke up. Okay, everybody, I'm working on my sleep. So I literally woke up at 840 and Lacey was here at 9 and I didn't, so aren't you proud of me, though, that I was actually here.
Speaker 2:When I said yes, I was like let's see what she says.
Speaker 1:I won't text her yet, I just got up.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm. She might message me and say 10 no, because I knew I was ready, and then I looked at my phone and I was like she didn't, so I'm gonna go no, we're in off season.
Speaker 1:My cardio is only 25 minutes right now, so I was like I'll sleep and do cardio later, it'll be fine yeah, it worked out it did because we had a later date. We can do a little catch-up episode later, but yes, um going to bed later. Um brayden went to homecoming. I was so happy so I stayed up and waited for him so deegan is zero percent interested.
Speaker 2:Um ashton actually kind of wanted to go to homecoming this year, but he had his working audition for cse on the same night and I told him he could pick what he wanted to go to and he chose work over homecoming. So kind of sad because he hasn't.
Speaker 1:He didn't go last year there's's more chances for him to go he has two more chances.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, brayden, I was like Brayden this is your senior year. I want you to do all the things. So he did the senior sunrise he got his senior pictures done and, yeah, the homecoming now.
Speaker 2:Senior sunrise was literally basically in our backyard.
Speaker 1:Because they did it on the football field. I'm very well aware that you live behind a football field, because the time when we used to get a little toasty and I would spend the night at your house and then wake up like why am I still drunk and there's whistles going on? Right, because football practice started at like six o'clock in the morning during the summer. Yeah, it was stupid, I hated it, but that's the literally right there, and deegan still didn't fucking go because it's really early.
Speaker 2:They had they did the art at 4, 30. Yeah, they had to be over there at five, I think, but they brought them all donuts and stuff. So, yeah, they did that for us. I'm glad that I still have to do a senior photo for deegan. He doesn't want anything to do with anything brayden is an introverted extrovert.
Speaker 1:yeah, he puts it on when he performs. He will do all the things's great, friends with everybody, but he's so humble and quiet, he will just. He's like the background friend, but in the front when you need him. So he's me. Yes, and then the girls are like me, we're like yeah here we are.
Speaker 2:The girls are very much like you.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, Well, Kinsley's very much a mix of Luke and me very much a mix of luke and me.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's true, lord, help her. She is so doubly stubborn because she has your stubbornness and she has a girlfriend loves to eat yeah yesterday she had three burgers.
Speaker 1:We were like out all day doing things you know. So like we're out and she's like I'm like you just had. She's like no, I'm hungry, I'm like it eats all of it. I'm like I don't know where this girl put. Well, I know where she puts it all, but like I can't stop it that's so funny.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're gonna come back now because I know a little more on the last one a little mystery never hurt a flirty conversation what does that?
Speaker 1:mean, um, you keep, you hold some things back. Maybe you keep a little mystery to it. You don't put all your cards on the table.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm gonna slightly agree then, because I I there was one time I went on a date with this guy and I don't know what got into me, probably three long islands before he showed up. Let's be real, and I, just like word, vomited a lot of my trauma and I, unsurprisingly, never spoke to that dude you know what you could just do.
Speaker 1:You know, we have that episode that was like our trauma, one for one. You could just be like so here you go, listen to this before we go out.
Speaker 2:But like that barely even scratches the surface.
Speaker 1:I know we have a part two that we really need to get to at some point, do we?
Speaker 2:I don't know I feel like if we lay it all out it's better. It's also hard, because I don't know what I've okay that's smart, you should do that? Yeah, I'll do that okay, are you ready to submit your score? Test okay, ready.
Speaker 1:One, two, three loading, mine's loading okay mine just reloaded the fucking questions mine too did we take too long?
Speaker 2:okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, you answer quickly um, okay, yes, hold on please. That's so funny. Oh, hold please. Oh god, I can't believe we did that it's because we coldy sack?
Speaker 2:I know God, I can't believe we did that. It's because we cul-de-sac?
Speaker 1:I know. No, no, they're like what are you guys doing? Only 10 more questions Hold on. I know I'm like I'm also I withhold some information when I'm flirting. No, I think we. Yeah. No, I think we yeah, almost there. I only have three more okay score test. There we go, got it. I have a flirtatious personality but what level? What um? Mine is 79 out of 100. Shut the fuck up what is yours 60, so you are moderately flirtatious.
Speaker 2:That's surprising to me. That's higher than I would have anticipated. It says you flirt frequently and may enjoy the game of it only 28 of people are able to accurately detect when someone is flirting with them. That's surprisingly low yeah we said that, yeah, men are more likely to distinguish between friendly behavior and flirting and to see innocuous behaviors as more flirtatious and subjective, because they're more sexually driven. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Also, I think men will flirt just to have sex, where women are more flirting for relationship and connection.
Speaker 2:Sure, that's fair. I think that sometimes I think we have a tendency to just think they're being nice. That's true. That's true. Like to the point where I've had people like do things for me that are relatively large things and I was like, oh, that was nice of them and did not know that they were like making a gesture, like until way after the fact that's you, I know.
Speaker 1:Um. Gazing into another person's eyes is a sign of interest and flirtation. However, there are many differences to this interpretation. Men tend to view the mutual gaze as a sexual invitation invitation, while women see prolonged eye contact as an indication of interest.
Speaker 2:See See, like I just said, yeah, basically, eye contact makes me uncomfortable when I am talking. If you are talking, I can look you in the eye, cause I want to like show you that I'm paying attention, but, like when I'm talking, I don't want to like see a reaction to what I'm saying. So it makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So I feel like I skew up the number um if I I don't know, I don't think that I avoid eye contact or anything. I will if the person I think okay, I have done this in the past. Like if a person is flirting with me, I get really weird and I don't want them to flirt. I get fucking awkward as shit to try to get out of the car like get away yeah, I will.
Speaker 2:Literally, I don't want you to think yeah it's like I gotta go yeah which also, though, if you were too passive with telling someone.
Speaker 1:I learned this from fat roger this is one of you told me that, yeah, you've told me one of the things that fat roger dropped off flowers at my house that had a fucking girlfriend wife.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't know what's happening, right now, but it's like if you are too nice in your denial of their flirting, they will think that they're still an opening facts. Yeah, like you have to be aggressive and you have to cut it off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to be like I'm not talking to you ever again.
Speaker 2:He would always you become mean because I would talk to him and I was like I don't understand, blah, blah, blah, because we'd be at the bar and I'm like I tell these people, leave me alone. They don't leave me alone. And then you have to get involved because he was the bouncer and I would also not take anything that that man had but I'm saying that's one thing, that's actually smart.
Speaker 2:And he's like you know where that happens, right? And I was like why he's like? Because you say no, thank you instead of no, and I was like I'm being nice, he's like exactly, so they think that the all they have to do is like wear you down, and I'm like that's so fucked up and he's like that's men like. And it changed the way that I like looked at things.
Speaker 2:Maybe not all men though no, no, no comment I ever make is directed towards an everybody. I think people need to remember that going into conversations more the current climate. People think it's all or nothing and it's like no, that's not how the world works. Extroverts are more likely to be physical, playful or sincere flirts, while introverts tend toward polite. That's fair, so I'm extro you're intro. I feel like I used to be an extrovert and I slow, I was like an extroverted, introvert and now I've turned into an introverted, or whatever.
Speaker 2:I'm more introverted now than I used to be, but I've always been a little bit of both.
Speaker 1:I feel like I crave more introverted time, because to recharge I need to be within myself, I need to be quiet. But I can do it with another person there with me, as long as they're not in. You know what I mean. Like I just want to recharge and be quiet. You sit there, but I need that quiet time to recharge. I need my brain to quiet down because there's so much going on with me all day long and so many people children, little humans- that need me that like constantly interrupt my thought process Because, like again, even like working, going and training people out to be on, I have my energy.
Speaker 1:I'm constantly like putting energy out. So I find that now I need more alone time, like I crave that time where I don't have to talk to anybody.
Speaker 2:I feel like I get charged when I'm with people, but it has to be the right people, yeah.
Speaker 1:You're like one of the. You are the only person that I'm able to A look like this around and be fine, literally rolled out of bed.
Speaker 2:You guys, I'm in my. It's so stupid how cute she looks and she's all like, oh gross.
Speaker 1:I'm in a big t-shirt and underwear. Yeah, it's adorable. Oh, they're short underwear. They're shorts. Oh, thank you. And your face looks like that and like the only thing that looks like you just woke up might be your hair.
Speaker 2:Oh, my hair, yeah because it's in a braid and it's been sprayed. It's been a slept in half. Yeah, that's it slept in braid. That's the only thing. Otherwise shut up I love you.
Speaker 1:You make me feel good about myself. I don't even try to watch. You see me out in the world like this today.
Speaker 2:You're like oh she gave you false confidence. But this is why right, like, yes, that's why you're like you can be around me, it's fine I love it.
Speaker 1:No, you're. You require no energy to be around, and I love it um.
Speaker 2:Women and men flirt differently. Women tend to accentuate their appearance, while men tout their accomplishments so we peacock in different ways. Is what that's saying?
Speaker 1:yes, do you remember? We talked about a long time ago and I was like why is it that men are like look, this is what I have, let me provide for you? I'm like is that, like you know, like these are my things, this is what I have and I feel like it's because this is what I can offer you. Yes, that's what it is yes, yeah, and I'm like I don't yeah no, and it's true like even cowardly lion.
Speaker 2:He's like. I own this home and I own this boat and I own these jet skis and I own all these vehicles. Aren't I impressive? I'm going to buy this big, expensive piece of equipment for my work, aren't I great?
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't care okay, I think that we are not the stereotypical women, because we take care of ourselves. Material does not impress us, but we, we're gonna do an episode about love languages because of shit like that. Yeah, but I do. Okay, I'm not like attracted to the materialistic things, but like I want you to have your shit together, so they kind of usually go hand in hand, but like that's not impressing me, but, but your shoes will guess what I feel like we have to fucking redo that shit, because I was listening back and I'm like none of those no, but also when we did that episode, that was alcoholic time that was that anytime I introduce someone to the podcast I I always go in with a disclaimer.
Speaker 2:I'm like listen season one.
Speaker 1:It was a shit show.
Speaker 2:Season one, we were alcohol, it was fun. Two and three, we are not.
Speaker 1:I think it's fun, though, and it's hilarious to go back and listen to, and I remember some of those times and I'm like we were just surviving and it was funny as fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were just surviving and it was funny as fuck. Yeah, we were literally surviving on vibes.
Speaker 1:Like if we had a reality show at that point in time.
Speaker 2:Oh God, we would be equivalent to Jersey, jersey shore, yeah.
Speaker 1:It was hilarious, like the shenanigans, that shenanigan.
Speaker 2:Oh, such a crazy time Such a crazy time Fucking Christmas tree.
Speaker 1:So many things, so many things, so many things I just christmas tree was a very standout one t-mobile roll up.
Speaker 2:Roll up was a really roll up was huge.
Speaker 1:That would always yeah, would always roll up with t-mobile.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah it was a time. It was a time in our lives. Let's just what the fuck was I doing?
Speaker 1:Mushrooms.
Speaker 2:He's not even missing a beat with that, just throwing that right out.
Speaker 1:I mean it's fine.
Speaker 2:You were a floating head in the hot tub. I I will do that to this day. You were like you were introducing me to exposure therapy.
Speaker 1:Still have that. Jennifer dropped her cell phone in the hot tub that night. Yeah, it was a. It's fun, though it was fun, you introduced me to mushroom blizzards let us show you this is the right way to take it roll up your diary. Queen, can we have three mini blizzards please? Cookies and cream mini blizzards it worked, shut up, it did, it did.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm definitely because I'm sober now. I like I am less flirtatious because I don't have liquid courage. Like I don't think I I can't think of the time I last like actively flirted with person like motorcycle, but that doesn't count because we have you know comfortability history.
Speaker 1:OK, so we could also play in the factor of comfortability.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that matters. Like I said, like I, I can flirt with the person that I'm comfortable with, but it takes a while to get there.
Speaker 1:This also goes to like I'm an onion person, so it takes a lot to get there. This also goes to like I'm an onion person, so it takes a lot to get through my walls and my layers layers, there's like walls there's a moat, there's walls, yeah and then there's layers yeah, that's fair. There's also like a ring of fire around the moat well and then like there's some snipers on top of the wall.
Speaker 2:I remember I posted this on facebook once and it made me laugh so hard because I'm like I like an onion to have layers and also like an onion when you peel one away. The next one is the exact same fucking thing. I just have layers and layers of the same thing over and over.
Speaker 1:It's fine, it's fine like eventually we'll get to the center yeah, it's not gonna be any different.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know what to say to that. I have nothing to come back to that it is funny, I'm just like oh yeah, but I think I mean liquid courage is a real thing.
Speaker 2:Like I'm just like, oh yeah, but I think I mean liquid courage is a real thing, like if I went to a bar back when I was drinking, I would not have flirted with a person until I had at least two or three beverages, and then I'd be like okay, because then if I fail I can blame it on alcohol. You know what I mean. So there was less risk and I feel like now it feels different. It feels like putting yourself out there and that feels awful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess you just need to meet in more like where you're already comfortable and it's like natural I need to become friends with someone first I feel like this, uh, internet dating stuff you put well, I don't, I've never met anyone off of any dating sites, but like when you go to meet someone, you are automatically kind of like put in a weird spot because you've talked to them and now there's all this pressure. To me I feel like that's harder than when you say, just meet someone, naturally, organically, strike up a conversation. You already kind of have a little spark and then you're more interested to meet them again and it's more organic. I don't like the. I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's just weird to me, like I don't know what to say to somebody where I'm like not looking at your face and there's delayed response time, but also I don't want to meet you straight out the gate either, because I don't want to waste my time, because I don't have a lot. So it's like a catch 22 like.
Speaker 2:That's why I was super depressed, because I would. There was this one dude and he like asked good questions. We had legit conversation. To me that's flirting, like being legitimately interested in the person and what they have to say and like asking them questions what if it was ai?
Speaker 1:do you remember how like, or do you know how people now are putting? They're using ai to run their dating questions and things like?
Speaker 2:that I never thought of that way to ruin that for me sorry.
Speaker 1:I read a big article about that's what guys are doing now. They're just inputting it honestly, though, and so it comes back.
Speaker 2:I might do that because I don't know how to start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do not know how to start flirting I think it's fine as long as they can continue it. You know what I? Mean that you don't meet them and all of a sudden they're like right, no, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2:To be substance because, let me say, prison. Aaron carter is like one of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life and it I laughed all the time. But it was at him, I'm with him I am dead I am dead and so like we were incompatible in that nature, like I need somebody that I can like have a conversation with yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1:Same gotta be smart, and I think that's why I think that's like a problem solving tactic, like somebody that I can be like, because life is like a bunch of problem solutions or someone I can just be like vent to talk to someone that can help solve a problem, whether I want them to or not so I want to tell you something.
Speaker 2:Someone said to me once that I to this day am not sure if it was a positive or a negative, and it kind of drives me crazy and I think about it way more than I probably should. They said to me you look way prettier in person than you do in your photos, and I was like that's a positive thanks.
Speaker 1:That's a positive. That means that they've been getting a lot of people catfishing them, that they're prettier in their pictures than they are in real life, and this is a thing that I've always gone back to. I don't use filters on my pictures or anything. I think a lot because first it kind of ruins the muscles. If you put a filter on it it automatically takes the lines in your muscles away.
Speaker 2:I love you so much, so I'd rather have muscles. Priorities. Yeah, I also don't need to, because that's your fucking face. But like, okay, keep going. Thank you.
Speaker 1:I'm also trying to be a lot better about compliments. I'm just like thank you, Even though they kind of make me like Uncomfortable A little bit but I like them. Yeah, they make me sick to my stomach, but I like them?
Speaker 2:I don't, I do. I'm trying to.
Speaker 1:I am also learning to say thank you because you're like this you go, thank you, that's so fair. That's so fair.
Speaker 2:I mean, it looks like I punched you in the gut at the same time, you're like that's what it, that is also what it feels like, at the same time like your face says pain, but your voice says thank you sometimes I think my therapist needs to listen to the podcast, just like send it on over I think you'll get more out of it.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about it when I see you next but that's also what makes like flirting difficult, because like I don't even because they're confused your face is saying one thing and your voice is saying another.
Speaker 1:I get it. I visually just saw the representation they're like. I don't know what she's saying.
Speaker 2:She's saying that was like when me and denise went to the bar and like I got blackout drunk and afterwards she's telling me about it and she's like these dudes were hitting on you and I was like, was I nice? And she goes? You were you and I was like, so no, because I know you probably weren't interested. It's not on purpose. My face just says what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1:I do not know how to shut that off.
Speaker 2:That is the autism Speaking loudly.
Speaker 1:You just need to put a bag over your head or something, sometimes Be like I'm sorry, she can't. She's Tourette, she can't control her face.
Speaker 2:So we're just gonna do this.
Speaker 1:It's a condition you show up to a date. You're like literally twitches sometimes I gotta go. I'll be right back.
Speaker 2:Go fix your face like heather my face someone will be telling me a story and I'm so mortified that my eye will twitch when they're talking to me. And I'm so mortified that my eye will twitch when they're talking to me. I'm like this is not it. 911, run away.
Speaker 1:Run away. I know the face, I got the face earlier, when I was like. So there's this thing.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, I'm so happy for you. You're like, I am just going to say what I always say and be here. You're making me wheeze. I'm fucking laughing.
Speaker 1:Min minus five hours till you text me again about this scenario. But that's fine. We'll be on this roller coaster a few times today, but that's good, it's an upswing, it's an uphill. It's so good, it's a ride. You've been up for five minutes heather, it's fine I knew coming in. I've been where warning you for days, like, just so you know. It was like this is happening. I don't know what to do about it. Okay, so my toes in, okay, my foot's in. I just fucking jumped all the way in again, okay we're in.
Speaker 2:I tried, I gave all of the warnings, so far, we're fine. Just be careful, just be prepared, just remember, be careful, just be prepared, just remember, I am, I am Until it happens and then you're going to forget all of it.
Speaker 1:It's fine, it's fine. What if it doesn't? Stay tuned On the next episode, next episode.
Speaker 2:So yo, yo, yo yo.
Speaker 1:Right when you recover from the whiplash. No Things can be different. Times can be different.
Speaker 2:Literally some relationships should come with an insurance policy to pay for your medical bills.
Speaker 1:For that emotional whiplash, that the yo-yo thing. We have circled back around for several years. So maybe timing is like and there has never been any, everything has always ended very amicably. Like, well, yes, it has never been like any other situation. It's like, yes, maybe I don't like, at least there's like an explanation.
Speaker 2:Well, not in the beginning, but I also, first time you can say, it never ended in anger.
Speaker 1:That's where you can say never, no, um, the first time like, okay, yeah, like the, the very long was me. The first one was me actually, um, and then I forgot about these. Oh yeah, eat them, keep talking. Um, the first time was me, anyways, when we actually like decided to, yes, there was. I liked the amicability, it was a good like facts. I understood it wasn't what I wanted, but then you know, we're just trying things out again. We'll see what happens we'll see if life, we'll see if life throws a.
Speaker 2:I'm just enjoying it and seeing what happens I can give you all the shit in the world, but I also cannot shame you because I do the same shit with motorcycle so well, and here's the thing, we've changed.
Speaker 1:a lot people can change, but you do have to be a little more like, open, and I think there's just conversations that need to be had about like expectations of future and like OK, so we're not just wasting time.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like no, I think that's important Expectations. I can do what I'm doing with motorcycle because I know that this is all it is and I can.
Speaker 1:I've accepted that you also put boundaries. You said, yeah, I did. And I said I'm not allowing my heart to be a part of it this time and so if you want this or you can have this and I feel like he's kind of figuring things out and they're probably going more in your favor, but this works really well for you because you like the distance thing I know he's like we won't work because it's long distance.
Speaker 2:I'm like you don't understand that. That's literally in my pro column you're like what are you talking?
Speaker 2:about, I think, motorcycle for you needs to work through whatever workout it's fine, but I've accepted that and I'm okay but you're having fun I'm having fun in the moment, yeah, and it is easier because I literally I was like, no, take my heart out of it, and then I can just enjoy it for what it is and then it's fine. I did that, and then I can flirt with him all day, every day, because history yes, member comfortability yeah it matters.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, I think that's it today. Wow, we're at an hour. Oh damn Shit, we didn't look.
Speaker 1:Our bad. It's fine, it's fine, but we're going to go. Yeah, we're going to go now. Bye, bye, everyone, until next week. We're going to go now. Well, now, see you later, bye.