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If Trauma Had A Delete Button, My Ex Would Be First In Line

Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph Season 3 Episode 25

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What would you trade for peace of mind—a full year of your memory, a single person who did damage, or nothing at all? We crack open a messy, honest thought experiment and chase it through the real costs: identity, relationships, and the lessons that only hard seasons can teach. The premise sounds merciful—wipe the worst twelve months, skip the grief, dodge the chaos—but the ripple effects are ruthless. If those months built your boundaries and instincts, deleting them might also delete the wisdom you use to stay safe now.

We walk through the edge cases: picking a “boring” year, erasing only one person Eternal Sunshine‑style, and why pattern recognition matters more than clean timelines. The conversation gets personal—sober choices that changed the arc, manipulation that took time to unlearn, and the way self‑awareness can make you cringe before it makes you better. We also let humor breathe the heavy parts: ADHD love languages (object permanence affection is real), time blindness as a dragon you have to slay to show up on time, and the absurdity of the “boy aquarium” at a hockey game. The stories get unhinged and human, but the throughline stays clear: you don’t become stronger by forgetting; you become safer by integrating.

If you’ve ever wished for a delete button on your past—after a breakup, a loss, or a season that still echoes—this conversation offers a grounded alternative. Keep the memories, mine them for meaning, and level up without repeating the same boss fight. Hit play for honest takes, dark humor, and practical reflections on trauma, resilience, ADHD, sobriety, and friendship that shows up with snacks, rides, and the truth.

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SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to another uh hold on. Oh, it said write error message, but we're still recording, so that's fine. Uh welcome everyone to We Are Not the Same. But sometimes we are. Um there was a guy today walk that walked into the gym and he had a sweatshirt that said we are not the same. And I kind of died inside because it was like, oh, foreshadowing to what's gonna happen later on today. That's funny. Our podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Also, I'm sure his was a slightly different meaning to him. Yeah. That's fine. I haven't been in a gym in a really long time.

SPEAKER_01

Like two years fish. Mine is less than two hours ago, but I digress. So today to the gym. You should come with me sometime when you're not broken. Um, if that ever happens. But today, I like have a topic question type thing. Um, I'm gonna turn this up because I feel like we're not, or maybe it's my microphone. I don't know. Okay, there we go. Um if you could erase one year of your life, would you do it? And then I have follow-up questions.

SPEAKER_03

You don't even need an answer before you're like, and I have follow-up questions. I do. So maybe Can I ask questions? Yeah. Okay, first, why are you why are you thinking about this?

SPEAKER_01

Because I'm like, you know that movie, like um spotless. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03

Eternal Sunshine on the Spotless Line. Want a Jim Carrey's best movie. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, okay, so like there has to be some sort of technology that we could do this. But if you do that, then it alters like your world and who you are and all the things that are to come. So is it worth it? Is it worth it? I have a lot of questions.

SPEAKER_03

Because I can't, I don't feel like that's a question that you can just answer out the gate without knowing some like stats.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

I know you know what I mean. What kind of stats? Like, one, do I get to pick the year?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, no, that's the thing. If you could choose any year you want, would you, and what would it be? Like, if you had the opportunity to take one year out of your life and be like, fuck this year. Done, over with. And you never remembered any of it ever again.

SPEAKER_03

Does my relationship with people clearly stay where it is?

SPEAKER_01

See, that's the thing you don't know. Because in my mind, no, because if you take that year out and then you keep going like that year never happened, then nothing in that year would have ever happened.

SPEAKER_03

But that seems okay. See, this is why we have follow-up questions.

SPEAKER_01

This is what happens when like I get stoned and I'm driving in the car alone.

SPEAKER_03

You I get that. I have the weirdest conversations with myself when I'm in the car and I'm yeah. I understand how you would get here.

SPEAKER_01

Um, this is one that I like text. I'm like, I have a great topic. Anyways, yes, because this could heal a lot of people's trauma, theoretically, right? You take away a traumatic event that you never experienced, but yeah. Because that's the lights could also shape who you are as a person, like me, now, totally different.

SPEAKER_03

Do the people have like they just think you just disappeared for a year? So, like, you know what I mean? Like, how does that work?

SPEAKER_01

Like one year of your life is gone.

SPEAKER_03

No, I get that, but don't worry about other people.

SPEAKER_01

Don't worry about other people's life. It's a fear you fucking met me. Don't worry about other people. That's literally my own. For the sake of time, because I'm not gonna go through everybody in your life, nor do I care about it. I just want to understand how just you. You're just talking about you, specifically you. In regards to you. I can't answer the question. But you have to answer the questions in regard to you. And like your kids, I guess, right? You would be missing out on whatever year, whatever happened in that amount of time, unless it was before them.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I just want to know if people think that you went missing during that year.

SPEAKER_01

That's all I want to know. No, it's just like a year is wiped out from your memory.

SPEAKER_03

It's blurry to them. They don't know what happened either. So you can't even, you know, ask. Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe we could say more like it's literally wiped out from your memory. So you still lived it, but it is now completely gone.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, but I think that changes it.

SPEAKER_01

That does kind of change it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But that makes it a whole nother interesting topic, actually.

SPEAKER_01

I would like to say just taking it away altogether, just like erasing it. We could go down both, we could go down both rabbit holes. No, I couldn't. Because if I could erase a particular thing, I would definitely erase Johnny Bravo out of my life and pretend like that never happened.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's fair. I would definitely erase Johnny.

SPEAKER_01

But if I could erase like an event, like it would be Luke's death, but then also like I'm a completely different person now, right? Yeah. So obviously we take that back.

SPEAKER_03

But that's what makes it hard because you you look at all the things that are hard based off of the event, and then you're like, I would give anything to not have that hard. But then you have to be like, but think of all the good that also came out of that, and whether or not you're willing to do that.

SPEAKER_01

Any good ever came out of it, other than just like, I just am resilient, and I'm done showing that I'm fucking resilient. I'm done. I get that too. Like, I get it. I can take anything that life throws at me, but I'm real done playing dodge dodgeball.

SPEAKER_03

So this is what that's what life is.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like giant dodgeball.

SPEAKER_03

There's like if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. I cannot dodge a wrench.

SPEAKER_01

You get hit by everything metaphorically and physically.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I didn't mean that literally. But it fits fair.

SPEAKER_01

Tracks, tracks. That's exactly yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So then, okay, so let's say you even consider doing it. Now you have to pick which year though, right? Because like I have multiple traumatic things. You have multiple traumatic things.

SPEAKER_01

I would easily go for like something in my childhood that I could just forget about that I could then still have all the other things. I feel like if you take out the year in my childhood where I like ran away in the middle of the night with my mom and like went into Heidi, like the whole like really scary shit that happened, if I just like got rid of that, I wonder like what my real like if I would if things would be different.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yeah, that's a fair question. See, I my personal experience is no, it wouldn't be different because I don't remember anything from my childhood.

SPEAKER_01

But you don't have any traumatic core memories?

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't remember pretty much anything before I was in high school. Like I have uh spot memories and most of those aren't like actual memories. They're either I saw a video of it or I've had enough people tell me what happened that I've like created a false memory where like I've I've created a video in my brain.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the year, just a high school year then.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, just straight out the gate. I got it. I got it wrong from the fucking beginning.

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean like getting out of no, I mean like getting rid of one of those years.

SPEAKER_03

I know, that's why I'm saying straight out the gate. That my very first year of memory, I fucked I made bad decisions from the start of what I've done.

SPEAKER_01

So if you could take one of those away. Because obviously we wouldn't change our children, so you'd have to do it up and it absolutely would.

SPEAKER_03

Well, not necessarily.

SPEAKER_01

Because if I didn't if I didn't So you don't want to change anything, you just want to live your life. You'll you won't change anything.

SPEAKER_03

I would have to change something after my kids were born.

SPEAKER_01

Because Okay, so then just pick a year that was boring. That's why it's hard if you had to. Pick a year that was boring that you don't want to like that you just get rid of up.

SPEAKER_03

No, I think I would just go for I would go for the year where okay, here's another question. Does it have to be a calendar year or can it be like a specific month to a 12-month period? Then I would do the period between where me and the boys' dads split up and I started my relationship with fat Roger that year, because those were two like just outlandish.

SPEAKER_01

You don't want to get rid of the fat Roger?

SPEAKER_03

No, that's why I'm saying I want to get rid of that whole year because then I wouldn't that whole thing wouldn't have happened. Yes, I agree. Everything from that moment after would have been different. Yes. So that is the year that I would choose. I think that makes the most, I feel like I could capitalize on that the most. Like me and Carrie would still end, but maybe it would like it wouldn't have equaled stalking and craziness and two years of chaos and all the things. Right. You know what I mean? Maybe like because if he thought I just disappeared and then I could just show back up and he'd just be like, what the fuck? But enough time would have passed. You know what I mean? Like now, now I'm gonna freaking have fantasies about that.

SPEAKER_01

Because then I'm like, sign me up for the trial. Where do I do this?

SPEAKER_03

Right, because then that would have saved me so much hard.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I agree. I would also say, I mean, obviously, I would just say Luke's death, I think. And then I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because that would stop Johnny Bravo, I think. Like if you didn't that year was so hard with you emotionally. Yeah, like that tore you down to make you vulnerable to somebody like him.

SPEAKER_01

He just picked it up, he just monopolized on my vulnerable piece. They can read unfortunately, but now but see then also like you couldn't get one over on me now.

SPEAKER_03

Right, so right, then you go back to lessons learned. Is the lessons that you've learned from that situation enough?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

It's hard to like damn it, because now that makes me as I was all like on board and all the things, and now I that thought process alone makes me not because I was broken by the before the beginning of that year.

SPEAKER_01

So I wouldn't have killed is it kind of like you just end up like devaluing your no okay.

SPEAKER_03

Would you end up right back where you ended where you would have?

SPEAKER_01

So, like your character in life, right? Your character, like your video game analogy, right? Like your little guy, right? Like has been been through so much shit. It's like evolved. You're like this. If you take that year away, do you become de-evolved? You know what I mean? Like all that year you did grow whether you wanted to or not. You wouldn't have grown at all, especially if it was fucking hard.

SPEAKER_03

So then you end up in the same spot just a year behind. So now I'm getting everything a year older? Fuck that.

SPEAKER_01

And then what happens if you still have to go through it and then you're like living it all over again?

SPEAKER_03

You'd have to, because you didn't learn that fucking lesson, and you still have to learn that lesson to be so either you're not gonna be as good of a person, or you're just doing the same shit anyway, and you're just delaying it. And what the what's the point of delaying it? It might not be with the same people, it might be a different path, but if you don't learn that same lesson, you're just gonna be a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_01

This is very true.

SPEAKER_03

Well, think about think of me and you didn't get sober. Yes, you know what I mean? Like, I that's a scary thought.

SPEAKER_01

I know ours were very different. Ours were very different. I very much like needed to take the alcohol out of the grief journey.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um, that was very much needed to heal.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. I just needed to stop spiraling.

SPEAKER_01

And I had no idea you were like so Nobody knew. Like, I thought you were just like really good at hiding it. Yes, you were. You were.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't until like a lot of people thought I was being overdramatic because they're like, you're not that bad. And then I'm like, you don't know the stories because I'm smart and I have friends in that group and friends in that group and friends in that group. So it only looks like I black out once or twice, but because I switch groups, I really black out all the fucking time.

SPEAKER_01

Nobody knew and you can hide it well with me because I'm Cinderella and also in turn. Cinderella still stays around to this day, by the way. That's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_03

See, I don't know. I I'm gonna now I'm in team. No, I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But God, it's tempting. It is tempting. Um, because well, mine especially, because I could bring back somebody.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, okay, and so then there's the third alternative, which is the plot of Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Vine, where they literally erase just the person. You pick one person, and every memory you ever had, that person is gone. I would do that. Then I think that makes it a much easier. I'd be like, yeah, sign G the thought. You obviously would get rid of Johnny Bravo, I would obviously get rid of Fat Roger, and like instantly our like confidence, we just wake up the next day and be like, God, I'm amazing. Like, why didn't I just live that way before?

SPEAKER_01

Right?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know because I wouldn't fucking remember. It would be so good.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I think Fat Roger fucked with you so bad. Yeah. I hate it.

SPEAKER_03

I know it still affects me. It's cool.

SPEAKER_01

Um I mean it's not, but I didn't want to admit that John well not admit, I guess I didn't realize the effect the actual mental abuse and like manipulation the way that it like poisoned my thought process for a while. It like took a fucking minute to like deprogram that shit.

SPEAKER_03

I am well aware.

SPEAKER_01

I fucking sat here waiting impatiently for it to happen because I I knew I was like, I was at least I'm like self-ware enough to be like, this is fucking stupid that I feel like this because of XYZ. And I've never felt like this before. Like I thought I was done being traumatized by my husband fucking dying and me almost dying. Like, you think that would be enough? No, Mr. Fucking Tiny Ankles and fucking big ears had to come around. It's Johnny Bravo. If anyone was wondering, aka.

SPEAKER_03

Everybody knows. You don't have to you did not need a further description other than tiny ankles. Everyone was well aware who you were speaking about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just came along and just willingly decided to like also traumatize me and the chill. I'm like, why? So dumb. Bad choice, bad choice on him that backfired.

SPEAKER_03

That's the whole thing though about being self-aware. Like, once you become self-aware, you become the most self-aware person ever. But like you fight it so hard when you're you know you're in a bad situation. Like every part of you is like, this is like alarms, alarms are going off, and you're just like, nope, la la la. I'm going to ignore all of it. La la la. And then you become so self-aware that like you're like, you can see everything, and then you just feel stupid.

SPEAKER_01

And then you just feel stupid. It's true though. Yeah, well, now I can see things like a mile away. I'm like very thankful that my situation is like honestly, actually really fucking healthy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and like if you got rid of all those mem-that's the whole point of that movie, too, right? Because they ended up repeating the same, they still ended up in the same relationship, same pattern.

SPEAKER_01

That's my video game analogy. You would not have leveled up anymore because if you have all these years built into that character and building it up and involving it, you take one fucking year away, you're down a year, but still the same character.

SPEAKER_03

Because you or you're exactly where you left off, and everybody else has progressed, so it's just you just wasted time and you still have to deal with it. Now you're behind. Now you're just behind. Because now everyone's gonna think you're old.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god. Is this just like everybody has to go through life and deal with their piles of shit in the most graceful way possible? I mean, yeah. You do for us. And this Sims game is not fun anymore. Oh my god, I was addicted to that fucking game. Really? Yes.

SPEAKER_03

That surprises me.

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That surprises me.

SPEAKER_01

I love I I would still play it to this day.

SPEAKER_03

Like I I love mind-numbing shit because my brain is go, go, go, go, go all the time. I would literally sit down and just play that until like I would play until somebody would be like, you need to stop. So I would like 10 hours in a day and just wouldn't even question it, wouldn't even like be like, this is not healthy. Not that long, but I definitely enjoyed it. But I would like, I would play hard for like weeks and then I wouldn't play for real long.

SPEAKER_01

I think I like hyperfixated on it for a second, and then I'm like, it didn't. Then there was like other shit to do.

SPEAKER_03

Because it would seem, but then it would take me, it would take me too long to progress, and then I would get angry, and then I'm like, but that's just real life, right?

SPEAKER_01

The same.

SPEAKER_03

Love it. Yeah what was your instrument of choice? Um, the guitar. I like the drums. See, we could have jammed together.

SPEAKER_01

I had why didn't we? I had them at the end of the day. We didn't meet until later in life. I went and I bought like Braden.

SPEAKER_03

They're making a new one.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, we should do that. We're gonna do that, and then we're gonna make videos. Maybe because we always say we're gonna make videos, and then we're gonna go.

SPEAKER_01

I'm holding us to it. We have a plan. We have a plan. I love it.

SPEAKER_03

It's so fun. And if you get the whole kit where you get like the two guitars and the drum and the microphone.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we're gonna jam.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And we'll go head to head. We will do something. Don't hear from either one of us for a while.

SPEAKER_01

We're in the basement. Playing guitar hero or rock band, excuse me. Oh my god. I'm so excited. It's the same difference. It's the same thing. Oh, I'm a little nasally. I'm getting over being sick, so.

SPEAKER_03

You just now tell me that I've been in your house for how long? Oh, well, you can't hear it. No. Oh.

SPEAKER_01

I'm feeling better now. So it was like contagious before. I'm not sharing any beverages with you. I made you your own coffee. No, you did.

SPEAKER_03

It was really nice. All fucking fancy too. Oh. You made fancy coffee. I do not have fancy coffee. I've only made coffee for the past two days in a row, which I'm actually proud of myself because I did something two days in a row. And I wore my retainers two days in a row because I went to the dentist and I got yelled at.

SPEAKER_01

Mega depression is going away. I'm working on it. Mega Aries. Mega depression is going away. Oh, that's so funny. Um, okay, so back to our, we are not going to take that one year. We're not going to do it. Because um I think we've worked really hard on evolving.

SPEAKER_03

It's weird that, like, I know it's hard to tell, but I'm in a good place for me.

SPEAKER_01

No, you really are actually.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I mean, Mike? It doesn't seem that way because of the mega depression, but realistically, if you're looking at the scope of my life, I'm in a pretty good spot.

SPEAKER_01

This is like the least of the worries. The mega depression is the least.

SPEAKER_03

This has been around forever. It's fine. It's like my pet. It's chronic mega depression. That I carry with me all the time. Oh. What do we call it? I don't I don't have a name for it. I don't know if that makes it weird.

SPEAKER_01

I'm trying to think of a name for it.

SPEAKER_03

You're trying to name my depression. Yeah. We've we've reached a weird place. Patricia. No. Why do I always do it? Because that makes more sense for Mega Aries than fucking depression. Let's move. Because Patricia's meant to be crazy. And I love you dearly, but like when you like you toe the line sometimes. You get scary. You get a little scary.

SPEAKER_01

Do I get scary?

SPEAKER_03

You get a little scary sometimes.

SPEAKER_01

When have I ever been scary?

SPEAKER_03

Um, when you lost the memory card. I just sat here and I was like, she I she just needs to let it all out. You were really mad, and I was like, oh, you did find it.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

I was nervous.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, also the kids move my shit all the time, and I'm so sick of it.

SPEAKER_03

It's frustrating.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, I can't leave one thing at all. Okay, we're going through this thing with Lily where she uses all of my stuff, sleeps in my bed, pretends like everything I own is hers. Meanwhile, she just bought a lock. Literally, your mini me. She just bought a lock for her own door. That's okay. And doesn't even utilize her own bedroom. She sleeps in here, showers in here. Sleeps in here, showers in here, utilizes all of my products. She just goes in there to change and do her makeup and then come out. So my room. Because Kinsley goes in there. Oh, that's fair. And she's ironically doesn't like it when her stuff gets touched. Enough at me. Yeah, but mine, it's fine.

SPEAKER_03

It's very different for me than you because I have boys and you have girls. I mean, you have a boy, but like.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and he was great. He didn't use it any of my boys. Very different.

SPEAKER_03

Right. I don't have to worry about that. Not that I I mean I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

He respects my stuff. He does not want to sleep in bed with me. He does not care to wear my clothing.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, Yeah, I don't have any of those problems.

SPEAKER_01

I have two girls I'm willing to trade for two boys. You have two. Send them on over.

SPEAKER_03

I have three. Well, I have two and a half.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I'm really looking for a Frenchie. Two children for a Frenchie. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. The short one's already like a Frenchie.

SPEAKER_03

Because then they also don't know where they put it. Because my whole family is full of people with autism and ADHD. And it's just, I live in utter chaos at all times.

SPEAKER_01

And you have six dogs.

SPEAKER_03

I have six dogs. I have three teenage boys. My youngest turns 16 tomorrow. And then I have a big thing. Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01

Happy birthing baby. Oh, so weird. Oh my sniffly nose. Sorry. Everyone had a hearing.

SPEAKER_03

Do you okay? We're so just off the wall at this point, but we're just talking. Do you uh like get weirdly nostalgic for your birthing day when you get your kids' birthday? Like mine was super traumatic both times, but every time around their birthday, I think about how traumatic their birthing day was.

SPEAKER_01

No, because mine was pretty like it's just like well, Madison was obviously that's a very hard like and traumatic, but all the other ones after that, I never even felt I've still never felt a contraction to this day. I don't know what that's like. I've only had space, okay. Went in with Madison, they're like, we're doing a C-section now, blah blah blah. But like that was at 28 weeks, yeah. And then everything after that's been scheduled. So I just know I go in, like scheduled from my very first appointment. Like here I am in my eight-week appointment.

SPEAKER_03

Like, when do you want to When do you want to have X-Y?

SPEAKER_01

Do you not remember? Okay, well, you don't remember. So Kinsley, she was supposed to her due date was 1022.

SPEAKER_03

I remember you being past.

SPEAKER_01

Well, no, it was before. She was four weeks early. So 1025 was her due date. And then they adjusted it. And then so 1010 was gonna be her um was her new date? Her uh evacuation, her C-section date. Her evacuation.

SPEAKER_00

What is this motion?

SPEAKER_01

Why cut open, cutting me open date, right? Slicing me open, getting her out. Ah, that word just escaped me. Okay, I don't know. I did go. I'm telling you, my brain sometimes is fucking wild. Girl. I did glutes really hard today, and I'm just like, and also, yeah, anyways, I thought the coffee would revive me. It did not. So then 1010 was her date that she would have been like a little over a week early, and then she came on 925 because she was eight pounds, six ounces in the ultrasound. He measured my uterus, and he's like, You can't get anything. We're gonna get an ultrasound, and I'm like, what's wrong? Right? So I also have like associated, like, and I didn't gain a lot of weight with her.

SPEAKER_03

No, but you had a belly big old belly.

SPEAKER_01

She went and I was measuring 43 weeks at 36. Not even 36, 35. So then they're like, Well, we're just gonna go ahead and get her out. So she came oh a little over four weeks early.

SPEAKER_03

Both my boys were early. And she was eight pounds, four ounces. That's crazy. I had little babies.

SPEAKER_01

Kinsley has always been in the 99th percentile and off the charts. That's so funny. It's wild. She's fun.

SPEAKER_03

We went way off topic.

SPEAKER_01

We did on the whole thing. We are so bad. We did really good because we both. I feel like we did.

SPEAKER_03

We did answer the question. I don't feel like I have anything else to contribute to that question.

SPEAKER_01

That was a good one, though. I do think that's something that in the future would be offered and something that I would consider for certain things.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that's what's scary is how quickly like AI is advancing. It scares the shit out of me a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm not gonna lie. We can now go get ketamine and MDMA assisted psychotherapy in Seattle as the first place in Washington, I think, doing it. That would make sense that it would be Seattle.

SPEAKER_03

I haven't I haven't gone back. I don't have the money. I have a cruise I have to pay for. Well, uh choices. Isn't that crazy? I'm literally choosing a cruise with my family that's gonna stress me out over my own mental health. I mean, who I am as a person.

SPEAKER_01

That's okay. It's okay. You're a good mom. You are a great mom.

SPEAKER_03

Um that's like the one compliment that I actually like actually makes me feel good. You know what I mean? Like if someone tells me they think I'm pretty, I think they're lying. So it doesn't do anything for me.

SPEAKER_01

Because fat Roger conditioned you to not think you're pretty.

SPEAKER_03

But if you tell me that I'm a good mom, like that's probably like the best thing you could ever say to me ever. I'll instantly kind of swing a little bit. Hey girl, hey.

SPEAKER_01

I have questions for us. Questions. We love these questions.

SPEAKER_03

It's funny because I've known you for so long. But like, I feel like we're still getting to know each other.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, this was one thing I want to talk about. ADHD love languages nobody talks about. Oh, object permanence affection. If I put your favorite snack in the fridge for you, that's basically a love letter.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

These were like they hit so hard. I was like, Oh my god, okay, yes, because I always okay, I also do this for the person. Like, I'm like always want to think about their favorite. I do it even for you. I'm always like, I need you to have a little snacky that you like, and you need a little beverage.

SPEAKER_03

You always make sure that I have something to drink and something to eat. If okay, here and you all you're like, bake good? I'm like, yes, please.

SPEAKER_01

How you know if I like you or not? Even as a person, like e general as a person. If I want to water you and feed you. Yeah. Or beverage you.

SPEAKER_03

She starts treating you like a plant.

SPEAKER_01

If I do not offer you anything to eat or drink, you are in an outer circle. If you if I offer you something to eat or drink, you are in my inner circle.

SPEAKER_03

I will go out of my way.

SPEAKER_01

There's only a few in that inner circle, too.

SPEAKER_03

I will literally drive to an inconvenient location if it's the only place that has something that I know that you like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't mind going out of my way for somebody because that is such an easier way for me to tell somebody that I like them than to tell someone that I like them.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like the little ways of showing.

SPEAKER_03

I can't verbally tell you that makes me uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01

It's about the little acts of showing, though. You know what I mean? Like, and that's like a little act of love. Like, it's just you I'm thinking about you type of thing. Yes. So uh time blindness commitment. If I'm actually on time for you, understand that I fought a dragon. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

I am really bad about being late. Like it's a bigger problem than I care to like actually acknowledge, even though like I know it is. I'm never on time. I'm fucking never ever ever on time. If you're on time for someone, I'm convinced that I can be. And that therein lies the problem. Like, I will not accommodate for the fact that I am always late because I am convinced that I can make it in that amount of time. Like, no, I'm good. Even though history has proven to me that I can't.

SPEAKER_01

Like, nah, you're not gonna make it.

SPEAKER_03

So I don't even know if I am capable. I don't know if I've ever liked somebody enough to put in that extra level to leave five minutes faster. I don't know if I've ever done it.

SPEAKER_01

I definitely, I definitely do that.

SPEAKER_03

I you do more than just five minutes. Like you're like overly cautious when you like it.

SPEAKER_01

Either I'm like way early or I'm late.

SPEAKER_03

Like there's no in between. Over an hour.

SPEAKER_01

Early? No. Oh, late. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You're if you're not early, you're gonna be like extra late.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but okay, and if I really love you, I'm just very inconsistent and all over the place. Sorry, Lacey. No, I'm just kidding. You just get me in all kinds of lights. So it's like if the kids are being like assholes, sometimes it takes forever to get out. If I lost my fucking keys, if I'm coming from the gym, if I have to like eat a meal, bring a meal. I don't know, there's so many things.

SPEAKER_03

I plan for you to be late. The thing is, and then all of a sudden I'm early and you're like, funny about that is I even when I plan for you to be late, nine times out of ten, I will still beat you. And then honestly, it makes me feel good because I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

We talk about late, it's only in that circumstance, it's usually only by a few minutes. But yes, yes, I am always later than you. You always beat me to my house.

SPEAKER_03

It's weird, but it makes me feel good because it's the only time I'm ever not the late one.

SPEAKER_01

It made me feel good when I pulled it today and did not see your card. Yes. I beat her.

SPEAKER_03

You did beat me.

SPEAKER_01

It's weird that we're having a race to my house.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it's like it's an it's a thing that we don't really speak about, but we both know it's happening.

SPEAKER_01

Literally, because I pulled it up, like, do I see your card? Nope. Good. Yes. I did it. I did it.

SPEAKER_03

But overall, historically, I'm I'm winning. Always, yes. I'm winning. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't make you wait long, but I definitely you always beat me. But that's okay. Besides the point.

SPEAKER_03

For some reason, I think that I live 20 minutes away from everything, but I definitely live 30 minutes away from everything.

SPEAKER_01

So Therein lies the problem.

SPEAKER_03

Therein lies the problem.

SPEAKER_01

Uh hyper focused bonding when I suddenly know everything about your random entrance interest because you mentioned. I don't think I've ever really like done this.

SPEAKER_03

I do that.

SPEAKER_01

I don't morph other people's interests. I like I think I've only been with people that share my interests.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, we are different in that because you definitely you date gym dudes because you're a gym girl and that makes sense. I very I'm a weird nerd person.

SPEAKER_01

Who likes lumberjacks?

SPEAKER_03

So I yes, I that is my type, however, I've never dated my type.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I heard a term today and it made me think about boy aquarium. We need to take you to a boy aquarium. What the fuck is that? Hockey. It's a hockey game. A boy aquarium.

SPEAKER_03

What in the Okay, I am old because I understand there's the relation to there's fish in the sea. No, like because they're behind the glass. Wow. Okay. Literal, quite literal. What generation came up with this?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know, but I heard it and I was like, this sounds like somewhere Lacey needs to go. So funny.

SPEAKER_03

I do like watching hockey. I like it when they fight because it's manly. I want a manly man. I do.

SPEAKER_01

I knew you were gonna love it. I do want a manly man. Downside, they basically all have fake teeth, but you know, I heard they have a cosmetic dentist on staff. And yeah. Jen's attention.

SPEAKER_03

Teeth is an issue for me. I'm not gonna lie. Like, if if you're all fake, at least they're mad. If you're gonna have sexy teeth, then no thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. No, I do want a manly man, though. I'm not really great at being feminine, but like I wanna be.

SPEAKER_01

I wanna be.

SPEAKER_02

I do! I wanna be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

I think you're good at it. I think sometimes I'm more like tomboy-ish than you are. I think sometimes you're more girly than I am.

SPEAKER_03

I would say it de yes, it depends on what you're looking at. Obviously, if you're looking at like looks, like physical looks, you were definitely more girly than I am. You're good at the makeup and the hair and the picking out an outfit, and that's a lot of work for me. Um, but if you're looking at like strength, like yeah, you're more manly than me because you can like do shit that I absolutely fucking could not do. Like, I am a weak lean. I am a pathetic weak lean. Weak lean. I am such a weak lean. Like, that's why I need a big strong man. So I can be the weak little girl that I need to be able to do.

SPEAKER_01

So we need to take you to the boy aquarium.

SPEAKER_03

I really don't think that's like how you get one, though.

SPEAKER_01

Like, we'll find you one there. I'm gonna be like, anyone want this one? This one right here. She's up for grabs. Uh no, I'm not, I'm not dating. We could just auction you off and we could take the proceeds. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03

Listen. All right.

SPEAKER_01

I have a new business proposition for you.

SPEAKER_03

No, I another thing that I will continuously shut you down on. Shall we start it? Will not let you auction me off. Just for a date. Just for one date. Do you know how bad that would be for me? Absolutely not money. Because I know the only people that are gonna bid on that, and I've already told them no. So, no, thank you. I am not for sale.

SPEAKER_01

Not for sale for a dinner.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, because then my whole like people-pleasingness will come in and they're gonna get the wrong idea, and then I'm gonna have to break up with somebody four times because I'm not even dating and I do it.

SPEAKER_01

I keep forgetting. I keep forgetting it's coming back to me now. You can't be trusted because you willingly went to a trailer that had an outporch covered with, I don't know, a building made of beer boxes. That's still like yeah, best, and you still went inside. I still went on the whole date. Yeah, you can't be trusted. You can't. You could have at any point in time sent me the fucking hot dog emoji and I would have called you. Oh, that's like the emergency emoji with me and my kids. You send me the hot dog, I'm gonna call you. I didn't even know that. That's funny. You can't just send me a hot dog and I'll be like, I'm dying, and you're the only one that can fix it. So please come help.

SPEAKER_03

That's good to know that I have a permanent out.

SPEAKER_01

I would show up. I will show up and you know it, and I will be like, hi, I'm dying. She needs to take it.

SPEAKER_03

I would never participate in an auction. No way. That would be very bad. I would sit there with you.

SPEAKER_01

I would sit there with you.

SPEAKER_03

That doesn't say for you to go on a couple of things. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, I'll go with you.

SPEAKER_03

Especially because the way the lighting is on your face because your phone is beneath you and it's dark in the room. And so it's literally illuminating just the scary bits of your face as you're like, I'll go with you.

SPEAKER_01

I'll go with you. How would I dress you too like that one time? That one time. I'm not your Barbie don't. I think about it. I'm too old. I know. It was really fun though. I I know. I was dying laughing.

SPEAKER_03

I'm glad you enjoyed doing it.

SPEAKER_01

Because you just kept doing it and you were you looked.

SPEAKER_03

Because I'm a fucking people pleaser. You looked amazing in the photo. No. The fact that he had like a mun. I hate man buns so much. And he had a sprout. Thank you. It was not even. I do not listen.

SPEAKER_01

What do you call it then a spru?

SPEAKER_03

I don't like sprout bun?

SPEAKER_01

Sprum.

SPEAKER_03

It was bad. Oh, but you looked at it. It was everything that I wrote that I didn't want in one package. It was weird that that's what you could find for me. And also, like very on brand. Very on brand. Very fucking on brand.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, with your luck, you thought this would work and you paid for this.

SPEAKER_00

I made a haunted tours.

SPEAKER_03

And then I've got to be a good one.

SPEAKER_01

It should have been like girls getting rid of it.

SPEAKER_03

It was supposed to be like a photo.

SPEAKER_01

Me and you went on a date.

SPEAKER_03

Me and you went on a date after.

SPEAKER_01

Dressed identical. Because I thought that's cool. I look back at my choices now and I'm like, what were you thinking?

SPEAKER_03

Seriously, I think I'm like, I've lived so many lives in this one life. It's crazy. Like, how did all of these things happen to one singular fucking person?

SPEAKER_01

The lives that we've lived together. So weird. We've gone through many, many cycles.

SPEAKER_03

So many.

SPEAKER_01

That one was funny. That was my uh black bodysuit, tight jeans, Gucci belt era. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, that was the exact outfit. And then you like I feathered my hair. It was big.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I gave you some volume.

SPEAKER_03

It was it was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. I gave you my shoes. See, you needed me because mid-photo shoot, I took my shoes off and gave them to you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You remember like the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

I do. It was great. And great for you.

SPEAKER_03

I did not have a good time.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, afterwards was so funny when he tried messaging you and we were already on a date. No. Oh, okay. The other guy.

SPEAKER_03

He did, didn't he? See, I don't this is the thing, right? Like, I know that I've been through weird things. It was very entertaining.

SPEAKER_01

When you paid for it, I was gonna get full entertainment from it. So I remember all of it. It was like a live action play that you were involved in.

SPEAKER_03

That I was the star of it. Yes. I'm like, this is great.

SPEAKER_01

You are distracting me from life. I love this.

SPEAKER_03

I was like during that time. Yes, it was like post Luke. During the spiral.

SPEAKER_01

It was post-Luke, very after like very much after Luke.

SPEAKER_03

We are just gonna refer to that time as the spiral because it it Yes.

SPEAKER_01

That was my griefy days where I'm like, anything that I can do to make myself happy in the moment.

SPEAKER_03

Anything you wanted to do. I took off two days of work every single week for three months.

SPEAKER_01

We had so many fun activities.

SPEAKER_03

We did so many activities. We did so many activities. Dude, we did so much.

SPEAKER_01

We ended up in a lot of strange places.

SPEAKER_03

I was laying on the floor of a bar with a dog. You yelled at me about my face. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Going to that bar. You piss me off sometime. I was like, I don't have anything on either. Fuck off. I don't have any makeup on. Okay. Um. That's really it on this one. Okay, yeah. No, I like our little spiral. Those were like, oh, questions. I got sidetracked with the questions. But yes, no, our little spiral time was fun. We had not fun, but there was moments of like There were moments of fun. Now that I look back on it, I can laugh hysterically, thinking like I just didn't want to feel any of the awful feelings that I was feeling.

SPEAKER_03

And we made sure that the biggest thing I think was so much happened in such a short amount of time. And so, like, you know what I mean? Like, that was the triggering event that started so many, like, you almost got put in a mental institution. And like, you know what I mean? Like, so many and then actually like that's the Bunko slash jazz club night. And then you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I did not deserve any part of the mental institution.

SPEAKER_03

But that wasn't my point.

SPEAKER_01

But the Bunkho incident, I had every part in. I'm sorry. I don't even remember playing Bunko that night.

SPEAKER_03

I don't either.

SPEAKER_01

And it was at my house.

SPEAKER_03

I do not either. It forced they changed our Bunko group to a sober bunko group after that for years. They literally just started having allowing alcohol again like a couple of months ago.

SPEAKER_01

To be fair, it was not the alcohol that put us over the edge. That was not the problem. That was not the problem. I love that for them that they think that was the problem, but that was not the problem.

SPEAKER_03

To be fair, I was the problem. And we ended up at the end.

SPEAKER_01

And so did Roll Up.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. 100%. That's so funny. That was a weird, but it was a short time.

SPEAKER_01

I have a video of Sydney flinging her hair on the stage of State Line from that night.

SPEAKER_03

Oh I haven't seen her in forever.

SPEAKER_01

I just saw her not very long ago.

unknown

That's fine.

SPEAKER_01

At one of the bodybuilding shows.

SPEAKER_03

So much happened in such a short time. All of the times at the Airbnb.

SPEAKER_01

So many.

SPEAKER_03

You could pick any number of them. So yeah, lots, lots that happen.

SPEAKER_01

I did mushrooms and turned the Airbnb up to 86 degrees, and Jill got real mad at me. Yeah. Because she was the only sober one. And then Sydney's like, why do you keep turning the heat up? I'm like, because I'm cold. Because I'm cold. I literally, they were so mad at me. That's fair. I'm like, and I saw no problem with it. I probably I'm like, I'm cold.

SPEAKER_03

I know. I'll layer, layer, layer blankets, blankets, blankets. And then all of a sudden you're just really hot. You're like, yes. Yep. It's an indicator, then you know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I just got cold. But okay, so five unhinged questions to ask your best friend.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01

What's the dumbest thing we've gotten away with? Oh.

SPEAKER_03

Literally that whole time with roll-up. I mean, if you think about to be honest, like we were not smart during that time. Like, I was driving drunk all the time. We were doing not legal activities. We like and we just didn't give a shit. Like, we weren't taking precautions. We you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Like, we went on a podcast fucked up. We made our first podcast debut completely high.

SPEAKER_03

Like, beyond. Like, I we were late because we were getting. We didn't know we were gonna be on until we got there. And I don't know if that's because we didn't know or if it's because we got so messed up that we forgot.

SPEAKER_01

That was on you. You were talking to him first, I think, right?

SPEAKER_03

Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03

That was a weird time in my life.

SPEAKER_01

Like I just assumed you knew. The fact that I just like blindly roll along with everything, like Mega Aries just rolls in. Yeah. Takes out.

SPEAKER_03

Do you want to know how me and him met? Did we ever talk about it?

SPEAKER_01

I think we did, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I literally I went to the comedy club and he did an opening act, and I thought he was funny, and then like we found each other on Tinder.

SPEAKER_01

That's awkward.

SPEAKER_03

I know. He's probably the only dude I've ever actually met off of Tinder. And we had like a date or whatever, and I was me, and I was drunk at the time, so I got wasted, and you can get me talking, obviously. I can't shut the fuck up. That's why we have a podcast. So we're talking or whatever, and I I'm telling him crazy life stories about like my polygamous family and all of the things. And you know me, I turned literally everything into the joke. Not thinking I'm on a date with a fucking comedian who's probably definitely gonna use this for material.

SPEAKER_01

He definitely did.

SPEAKER_03

We usually I don't think he did. I don't think he did. And that made me I have like mad respect for him that he didn't take any of and he could have he could have fucking roasted me and it would have been fair.

SPEAKER_01

Good. Now we can do it here. I know.

SPEAKER_03

Now I just do it to myself, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so yeah, the dumbest thing we've gotten away with. Um, I do have to say it was probably the time that I broke the beer bottle and you guys all got me out of there so quick.

SPEAKER_02

Dude.

SPEAKER_01

Because when does that happen? I still don't know if it actually happened, but the fact that both like you and my brother told me about it, I was like, that never happened. And then you told me the exact same story, and I'm like, oh the fuck, it did happen. I remember being like, Justin, you always exaggerate shit, like whatever. He's like, Do you remember what you did?

SPEAKER_03

Do you even realize that Lacey's not here?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I woke up with my romper on backwards. And that was a really awful choice because not only was it on backwards, it was a okay, it was a short romper and it had long sleeves and it fastened in the back. There was like a button that fastened in the back. But I somehow, in that night, decided that I was gonna take it all the way off, put it back on, backwards, and then commit to the button. No, no, no, no, I don't. Um, and I'm like, what the fuck? So that's the first thing. I go to the bathroom and wake up. I'm like, why is my romper? Oh my god, right? And I'm like, and then I'm so drunk I still fasten it up in the back. I don't even leave it unfastened. I have fastened a little button around my neck that should be in the back of my neck, but it's now underneath my chin. Okay, so that then I'm like, where is Lacey? And Justin's like, I don't know. She left. I'm like, she what? I did leave. I fucking left your ass. You deserved it though. I lost my wallet. I lost my phone.

SPEAKER_03

And I s I lost my phone twice. We got it back the first time, and then I lost it again in the same trip, and then it was gone.

SPEAKER_01

Whenever I hung out with my brother, it was always a very wild time.

SPEAKER_03

I've only we hung out that time, and then there was that one time where we had like a friends giving at your house. And then we ended up going out. And it was just me, you, your brother, uh, I can't remember the girl's name, but we knew her. And then some random dude that I saw a photo and I was like, I still don't know who the fuck that is.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, what was her name?

SPEAKER_03

I'm still friends with her on Facebook, but I honestly in this moment could not remember.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't either.

SPEAKER_03

No?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Anyways, um, yeah. The nanwey.

SPEAKER_03

That was like the only two times. And your brother was a creeper.

unknown

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

She would get drunk and he definitely like tried. I don't know. I wasn't a part of that.

SPEAKER_03

I literally woke up to him hovering me trying to kiss me. Do you remember that? Because I fucking remember.

SPEAKER_01

I was asleep. I'm pretty sure Cinderella.

SPEAKER_03

I was in the same bed next to me.

SPEAKER_01

That's creepy.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it was creepy. That whole fucking weekend.

SPEAKER_01

Justin, I mean you're dead now, but Justin. I shouldn't laugh at that. No, but honestly, he like whatever. It's fine. It's fine. He was going through a rough time.

SPEAKER_02

See, we wouldn't have all these memories if we got rid of a year. He had just gotten divorced.

SPEAKER_01

He had gotten divorced.

SPEAKER_02

Divorced?

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

He was married more than once?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he got married to this first wife.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even think I knew that.

SPEAKER_01

Maggie. He was with Maggie, who was with her all the time.

SPEAKER_02

We've only been friends for 12 years.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't know. Because my brother never came around. No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_01

And he was always like off doing other stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Most people don't even know that I have a second sister.

SPEAKER_01

Or a brother. She's the not fun one. Uh-oh. Does she listen to this?

SPEAKER_03

No, I I don't even think she knows I have one, to be honest. That's how much we don't talk about.

SPEAKER_01

That's all I know her as. I actually don't know her name. I just know her as the not fun one. And I just figured that's all I need to know. I save my brain space. That works. I don't need to know. Apparently I'm not gonna meet her. Jen's the only one I need to know about. Yep. Although Jen's off living her life, so I might shove that one off too. And then what are we gonna call her? She's the f oh, the fun. The off one. The off being married one. The married one. It would just be the married one. No, she is. Um, we need to have her back on too. Uh, next question. What's the weirdest thing you've caught me doing that I still don't know about? That's weird that I just read that without even reading it in my head first. To like, because I would have not. That one's weird. Because I know about everything.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think I've ever caught you doing something. Like you know everything. I don't hide anything.

SPEAKER_01

No, we know everything.

SPEAKER_03

And we're not we message each other about the shit that we don't see.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_03

So I don't think I have an answer.

SPEAKER_01

What wild story do you think I'd tell my grandkids about our friendship?

SPEAKER_03

You know what one might be funny, at least I think is funny. Um, do you remember when you hit the curb?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_03

And you've busted your fucking rim?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm still just gonna.

SPEAKER_03

Just continue to drive home. Fucked up, tire, like super hella fucked up with your burrito, just fucking happy as a clam.

SPEAKER_01

It's fine. Just kept driving. Didn't even stop. I don't think no, I did stop.

SPEAKER_03

I pulled into a parking lot and then I was like, But I mean like when you hit it, like you hit it and you just kept going, and then you're like, Yes, because I'm like, I'm not stopping at this point in time.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna go at a parking lot, we're gonna get a little far away. Oh. It's most ants. At least it was just that. That was that was so long ago.

SPEAKER_03

Right, because I don't feel like you're gonna want to tell the grandkids something fucking like the time that we ended up at the strip club. Yeah, we're not dying.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not sure. No, that was actually not fun. There's no like our grandchildren. We actually didn't end up at a strip club. I make it sound like it's so much more exactly. It's like we live in fucking Spokane, Washington. It was state line and it was the Contiki. It wasn't even the strip club. Did we even go into the strip club?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

We were not there very long, but yes, we did. Because I'm pretty sure um Christmas tree. Yes, and that's when we ran into Fiddle Faddles X.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, who I saw not. How weird is that? I'm about I don't remember any of this because I Were we separated. Okay, well, I'm at Walmart checking, I'm getting stuff for like my first show for Miami, Miami Pro. I'm like getting stuff that I need like random few things, and he's like Heather, and I turn around and I'm like, I have no idea who the person's like, hey, you don't remember me.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm like the only interaction y'all ever had that he only knows who you are because you're in like tagged photos with me, probably. I don't think he would remember that.

SPEAKER_01

I know I was like, oh, I don't remember any of it. He's like, Yeah, you were pretty fucked up.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, I don't that time in my life. I definitely that was the goal. That was the goal.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't want to feel anything.

SPEAKER_03

That was the same night that we the the mistake that we made was that we split up.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

We should have known better. But we both both of our nights went awry when we split up, and we like, and then the next morning I didn't sleep at all, and that's like a whole story, and like it got weird, and like fiddlefaddles ex kissed me even though he was there with my stepsister. It got fucking weird, and then his roommate tried to sleep with me. It was a weird night for me, and that was the night that you ended up at Christmas tree's house, and then I had to try to pick you up in the morning, and then it sent me the wrong address, and like that all was the same day. Do you realize that? That was less than a 24-hour period. Do you want to know what I realized?

SPEAKER_01

Is like I went to sleep and you lived a whole life.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, I have a whole nother story that occurred.

SPEAKER_01

Mine ended. Mine ended. I found a bed and went to sleep. Mine ended.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's the difference. We are not the same.

SPEAKER_01

It's so funny. I literally remember, like, we would just roll up would end up taking us to so many random different fucking places on the quest to get to where we were going. I'm like, I thought we were going to this. How did we end up over here? Yes, I'm like, I'm not getting in the car with you anymore.

SPEAKER_03

You've taken us to the car. All the time you would, though. I know. You'd say you wouldn't, and then you would, you'd have me fucking drive all the way out to pick you up.

SPEAKER_01

I appreciate all the sober drivers that drove me around during my grief time while I was getting fucked up. Thank you very much. Roll up kept me being really fucking sidetracked, though. Yes. Although, how was he conveniently always around? Yes. Tell me how there was this one time I was with, it was really sketched. My phone died. I was downtown. I'm like, I have Louis Vuitton on my 24-inch extensions. I'm like, I didn't not be walking around down here. I was with, what's her name? The one that tried to get me in the fucking shit, the mental institution.

SPEAKER_03

Oh. I don't know why for some reason I thought you were talking about the aggressive list. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

We don't really say her name, do we?

SPEAKER_03

Uh no. Uh do we just call her what was it, AMR?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, we'll do that. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Is that what it was? Yeah, I know who you mean. Oh, okay. I was like exactly who you meant.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yes, I of course you do.

SPEAKER_03

Microphone cover, like mouth the name to me to make sure we were on the same page.

SPEAKER_01

Of course you do, because you also got traumatized. Okay, and she was it was a fake friend situation, and he was a real friend. We're like, anyways, um, where was I going with that? Something about AMR lady. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03

Where did it go? ADHD in real time, ladies and gentlemen. Where did it go?

SPEAKER_01

What were we talking about?

SPEAKER_03

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

We were talking about roll up.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, we were downtown. Okay. I'm with her. She's like, I'm we're gonna hang out, we're gonna have whatever. So she goes and like meets some cop that she knows, and then I'm like, we're downtown. And I'm like, I don't want to sit in the back of the seat of the cop car with you when you're anyways. She was strange. So she's like fucked up. We went to a comedy show, and then she's just like walking around downtown and roll up literally randomly rolls up.

SPEAKER_02

Randomly rolls up.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm like, this is the one time I am getting in the car with you because I don't want to be dead. He's like, Why are you downtown? I'm like, I don't know. My phone's dead. She brought us down here. I don't know. I don't know. But that was the only time that I was thankful that he rolled up. And I was like, also, how the hell are you down here right now? We went to a comedy uh comedy show.

SPEAKER_03

That is weird that he showed up. But also, good on you for like realizing that you shouldn't be down there because I'm naive as shit. And there was one time when I went to nine and I needed or uh fat Roger asked for like a fucking Red Bull or something. Five hour energy.

SPEAKER_01

And no, I walked you did not drive.

SPEAKER_03

You walked I walked from nine two miles in high heels. That's a personal choice. In a red, like skimpy ass dress trying to find him a fucking five-hour energy and no places open. And not once was I like, huh? And I had two cars stop and offer me a ride.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because you were wearing a red dress and heels.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_01

You were wearing a red dress and heels.

SPEAKER_03

I literally looked like a lady of the night. I know I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

100% did.

SPEAKER_03

Dumb as fuck. I remember I get back and he was so mad at me, and but I was so fucked up. I didn't like I didn't feel like I was in any danger. And I get back and he's so mad at me. And then I was like, why are you mad? No, he was pissed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but not for that.

SPEAKER_03

Because I didn't tell him I was leaving and my I love my heels. It's controlling, so like he had to know where I was, but yeah, I'm la la la. So fucking dumb. Drunk and dumb, thinking this is safe.

SPEAKER_01

If you got arrested one night, what would I assume you did?

SPEAKER_03

Something in a car.

SPEAKER_01

Something in a car because you're always in your car?

SPEAKER_03

I'm well, or like speeding, or I hit something because I'm distracted driver. Okay. I don't know. Because I don't do anything. Um, this was a couple years ago, I could come up with some creative answers, but I'm so lame now. That's why it's so weird to me to think back on memories when we did crazy shit like that, because I'm so not that person now.

SPEAKER_01

Mine would be just like somebody probably just really pissed Mega Aries off.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I know I agree with that. I feel like I would think that you got in like an assault charge.

SPEAKER_01

An assault charge.

SPEAKER_03

I was trying to think of a nicer way to say it.

SPEAKER_01

I would think that I would have an assault charge. That would be my name. Like, I am so nice. I've never been in a fight. Although I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03

I know out of the two of us, I'm the one who's been. I know. Of course.

SPEAKER_01

I'm the one that broke the beer bottle. You guys took me away because that was probably a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, because that like you would have gone to jail.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

For sure. Mine was like high school.

SPEAKER_01

I just like, yeah. I guess that aggressive- I haven't been like angry in a long time. So that's good. That's good. That's good. I don't put myself in situations where weird men can grab my ass. That was like, I'm pretty sure what the the culprit of that situation was. Correct.

SPEAKER_03

I do feel like if this was the one.

SPEAKER_01

But that was a little bit of an exaggerated response, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. You went from zero to a hundred, really.

SPEAKER_01

That's me though. If I feel disrespected, I don't know why I get so angry, but like that's why I would assume that.

SPEAKER_03

See, I wouldn't think you started it, but I do think that you would have been the one charged.

SPEAKER_01

Like, it's different because I can let a lot of shit go, but I feel like when it's intentional life, like when I feel like someone intentionally does something to me or someone I really love or care about, I just get a certain kind of like angry. Yeah. Fair. Make angry. Honestly, though. Mega Aries. On that note. Mega Aries, don't let the Mega Aries out. Okay. Like, subscribe, give us five stars. All the things. Um, send us a fan mail. What do you want to hear? Yeah, give us suggestions. What do you want to hear? What do you want to talk about? Do you want to come on?

SPEAKER_03

That would be fun. We haven't had a guest in a while.

SPEAKER_01

No, we haven't. We should do that. All right. Well, till next time. Bye. Bye. That was so anticlimactic. Bye, everyone. I can't even push the button, so we're still gonna say goodbye. Hello. Goodbye. Goodbye. You have to say goodbye again, or it's weird. I couldn't end it that way. Okay. And I can't cut it off now. We've come so far. We've come too far. Goodbye. Goodbye.