we are NOT the SAME
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we are NOT the SAME
I Tried To Sleep In Silence And My Brain Said NOPE
Silence isn’t silent for everyone. We open with the weird whoosh of tinnitus and how a quiet bedroom can feel louder than a city street, then work our way through sleep debt, anxiety, and the hopeful promise of habits that actually stick. One of us lives by a structured wind-down and eight-hour average; the other battles insomnia, racing thoughts, and the urge to clear every notification before bed. That contrast fuels a practical, funny, and unfiltered look at what real rest takes when life is full and emotions run high.
We compare Whoop and Fitbit beyond the marketing—sleep debt vs sleep efficiency, readiness vs recovery, and how HRV, resting heart rate, and restorative stages map to the way you feel when you wake up. There’s also the all-too-relatable moment when a wearable congratulates a “workout” that was actually a panic spike in a crowded store. The takeaway: use data for patterns, not punishment. If your brain is buzzing, it’s not a character flaw; it’s a cue to try different inputs—brown noise, earplugs, earlier wind-downs, and boundaries around late-night scrolls.
We get honest about emotional fatigue during the holidays, grief anniversaries that hit harder in the dark, and the rare times we actually call each other instead of stuffing it down. Safety gets real too: drowsy driving, rumble strips, and why pulling into a rest stop for a 20-minute nap can be the most responsible move of the night. We wrap with caffeine guardrails, small habit swaps that lower cortisol, and a reminder that consistent routines beat heroic fixes. Rest isn’t a reward you earn; it’s a resource you protect.
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Hello everyone and welcome back to another amazing episode of We Are Not the Same. I am Heather.
SPEAKER_01:I am Lacey.
SPEAKER_00:And we're tired.
SPEAKER_01:So fucking tired.
SPEAKER_00:It's early.
SPEAKER_01:You made me come so early. Our schedules.
SPEAKER_00:I told you we could do it at night, and you're like noopa busy. I know.
SPEAKER_01:I'm always busy, or you are always busy, or we are both fucking always busy.
SPEAKER_00:I said.
SPEAKER_01:And that's why we're so fucking tired.
SPEAKER_00:I know. I'm like, bitch, get your ass here. I have coffee and pastries.
SPEAKER_01:And you did. You supplied me with both.
SPEAKER_00:When you walked through the door, in fact.
SPEAKER_01:And I was on time. Not even ish. Like I was on the dot.
SPEAKER_00:And I had everything set up for us. Oh, should we do early morning more often?
SPEAKER_01:No. Fucking no. Oh. No, because I suck at sleep. And so you just took away one of my few days where I could have slept in. What?
SPEAKER_00:It said write error on there, but I see us and it's still going, so we're good. I hope so. I know. I'm like, oh, what is that message?
SPEAKER_01:Is that gonna be another one where we think we record it and we don't?
SPEAKER_00:It is still recording.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. And then we've done that like three or four times at this point.
SPEAKER_00:So done that before. But I had the other microphones on this entire time.
SPEAKER_01:Is that why it was like so fucking loud in my head? Do you like it now? Yes, this is a million percent better. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:Can you hear that, guys? I don't could they? I don't know, probably the feedback. No, no, because we get um Oh, we get it all cleaned up. Yes. Yeah. But otherwise I have no idea.
SPEAKER_01:It was like living in a wind tunnel.
SPEAKER_00:I was wondering what was happening. I'm like, I don't know. Okay, so you know what I mean? We had invisible microphones.
SPEAKER_01:So we're okay, so we're talking about sleep because we're fucking tired. So we're like relevant topic. Relevant. So that sound, right, that you and I heard, which it sucks that they're not gonna hear it because they're gonna just think of Shh like that.
SPEAKER_00:But very low.
SPEAKER_01:I have come to a realization that that is why I hate silence because I don't hear silence. That is what I hear in my head at all times if there isn't other sound. And it made me kind of go crazy a little bit when I had that realization because now gosh, I have a Christmas present for you when I try to sleep because that's all I hear is that whoosh sound, and I hate it. I think it's because I have tinnitus. Okay, so there's these things, these loop earplugs, the loop earplugs. I have some.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god. And I've never opened the box. I bought them. I'm like, look, I have a solution. She's like, so I bought it. My ADHD said we needed it, and then it said, put this box away and opened in case we ever want to, but no.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly where it is.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I give you shit, but I do the same fucking thing. I'm not even gonna lie. I do the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's literally on my headboard. Yes. Because I was like right by my bed. How fucking convenient.
SPEAKER_00:Can you please put them in and tell me if it works?
SPEAKER_01:I will try them. Okay, so I freaking kind of forgot that I had this.
SPEAKER_00:You should put a thing upon our Facebook and be like, I have tried them. They do work or they don't work.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Because I'm curious.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because it sucks. Having that. So do you that's why I like I like chosen background noise. Yes, I like having the TV on. I've been sleeping without the TV on for like almost a year at this point because my therapist told me that it would help with my sleep. And let me fucking tell you. No! No, it fucking didn't. And you know why? Because I hear that static. So I'm like, that's worse. Because then I might my choice. Does it irritate you?
SPEAKER_00:Are you just like, shut the fuck up?
SPEAKER_01:My choices at that point are to hyper focus on the static sound and get so annoyed and just like scream at myself internally until I finally pass out. Or option two is actually allow myself to think my thoughts. And like that's the healthier option. No.
SPEAKER_00:Why on earth would we ever do that?
SPEAKER_01:You shut it down, bury it. You suck it in and shut it down.
SPEAKER_00:Literally.
SPEAKER_01:So those are my options. So yeah, I suck at sleep. Fucking suck at it. And you took away when I'm asleep in days.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I know. Me too.
SPEAKER_01:No, you you've kind of mastered sleep a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Now I can sleep. I can sleep when I want to sleep. And I'm really good about sleeping. I think it's a bodybuilder in me.
SPEAKER_01:Because you're good at structure and routine. And even though I crave structure and routine, I am it. You cannot do it. It sounds so good. I want it. I want it.
SPEAKER_00:It's not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:I just want it without me having to put it in the effort.
SPEAKER_00:You need a uh executive assistant.
SPEAKER_01:I yes. That would be amazing. I'm gonna be like, can you schedule this? Can you go to this? Can you make sure I take this? Like, can you just follow me around and like make me a better person?
SPEAKER_00:Do all the tasks that I forget to do?
SPEAKER_01:God, that would be amazing. Can you work while I take a nap?
SPEAKER_00:You're like, put it into HRs. So I kind of need an executive assistant, not from them at home, like in my home.
SPEAKER_01:Like at live in. Live in.
SPEAKER_00:Can I get that?
SPEAKER_01:That might help with my sleep. Although, okay, I'm gonna admit something that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_00:No, but wouldn't you be making sure the other person was getting enough sleep? No. Because that's a people pleaser in you. Like, are you okay?
SPEAKER_01:Do you get enough sleep? Do you need a beverage? I basically shell it. Are you upset? Do you need a hot beverage?
SPEAKER_00:Do you need that's me.
SPEAKER_01:A little bit. It's me. I wasn't gonna say it. Okay, so what is your how many hours do you get on app on average? Because we got trackers and shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I use the Whoop app and I've used it now for like four years. Whoop. I know, right? And I have like the medical one too, so it tracks everything. But my sleeve.
SPEAKER_01:I have a Fitbit because I'm I am middle class poor. So I mean, I wouldn't say I'm in the I'm in middle class though. There's that. I've done it. I've succeeded. Okay, let me get to my sleep. So mine does not track as much as yours, but mine does track my sleep. I actually did pretty good last night.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so are we looking for like trends last night? Okay, trends. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well we can talk well last night you didn't.
SPEAKER_00:No, we didn't talk about last night. Yeah, because I didn't sleep very I went to bed late too.
SPEAKER_01:So um I did so good last night. I got seven hours and twenty-three minutes, and I didn't hit my goal. My goal is seven hours and forty-five minutes, but I don't really ever hit that unless I take a nap.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so my sleep performance, hours versus need, hours of sleep versus hours.
SPEAKER_01:Yours showed me what you need.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, mine is hours need, needed versus hours that I got. I need that. And then see, hours versus need. And then mine's restorative sleep versus just regular sleep. Sleep consistency. Yours is way fucking fake. Mine just shows me like hours.
SPEAKER_01:It does tell me how many times sleep efficiency.
SPEAKER_00:So like Thursday woke up. My Wednesday night sleep was a 91% efficiency. Oh, me. So, and my sleep debt, I knocked out all my sleep debt that night.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I need that.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and it'll tell me my sleep stress. If I'm stressed, here's my thing. I have a sleep stress monitor. It will tell me just always be on. It's like, what was I doing last night? Like, I must have been having a bad it literally will show me if I'm stressed. High stress, medium, low. And that will tell you if you have restorative sleep order. You need this.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I need this.
SPEAKER_00:Look at this is like I can go back, and so hours versus need. Here we go.
SPEAKER_01:This is so much better than what I have.
SPEAKER_00:And I can go back to six months. Look, it'll say six months. I can go back to a year. Okay. My six months view. So it'll show me like, oh, you were doing real good there, you were doing bad in August and September. Well, it's because I was like coming off a prep, and I'm like, I'm gonna have fun and do all the things. And then back up to 10% in October.
SPEAKER_01:Um I can do my yeah. I want to see what yours is versus mine. How much hours I sleep? Yeah. Average for the year, how many hours per day do you sleep?
SPEAKER_00:I don't want to have anything.
SPEAKER_01:She has to go through so many options to find this.
SPEAKER_00:Would it be sleep consistency, sleep restorative? Okay, restorative sleep in hours. Yeah, hours. Okay. Oh, it's been going down lately. Um over the last six months. Okay, okay. Oh no, that's just restorative sleep.
SPEAKER_01:That doesn't count because that's just like the deep Yeah, mine will show me deep sleep and stuff, but um only if I look at like a day. Let me look. Because it breaks mine breaks down time awake, time spent in REM, time spent in light sleep. Yeah, mine.
SPEAKER_00:If we're looking at time in bed here, like time in bed, that sounds so funny. Um here are my hours.
SPEAKER_01:So that's just seven hours and fifty-three minutes is your average over the last six months.
SPEAKER_00:Girls. Over the last week, it's eight hours and twelve minutes. Over the last month, it's eight hours. So over the last six months, it's so basically I get eight hours a night every night.
SPEAKER_01:That's okay. My my yearly average is six hours and forty-seven minutes. And this is with naps.
SPEAKER_00:I never napped.
SPEAKER_01:Six hours and forty-five minutes. My week is six hours and fifty-three minutes, and last night I did great at seven hours and twenty-three minutes. You're averaging you average eight hours? That's crazy to me. That's awesome. Sleep is super fucking important. I'm just I'm mystified that you're capable of doing that because you are so busy.
SPEAKER_00:I go to bed like right away.
SPEAKER_01:What do you have like a set bedtime? Do you follow a schedule?
SPEAKER_00:I am like winding. Well, it depends on if the kids are cheer or if I need to stay up for it, depends on what's happening. But like I'm winding down like by 7:30. Shut up. No way. Yes. Like I want to be in bed by nine. Like I want to be in bed, possibly asleep. And then I get up at like 6 30. Now before you see. Yeah, usually 10 at the latest, but I have to. Wow.
SPEAKER_01:That's crazy. I fall asleep probably between 11. 9.45. Between 11 p.m. and 1 a.m. This is your problem. I know.
SPEAKER_00:Because you also wake up before 6. 5 45. So this is your problem.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but you need to go to bed like me. This is where I get in trouble because I do log in and I do some work in the morning and then I take a little nappy nap because I hope nobody rats me out.
SPEAKER_00:But I I hope nobody listens to this that you work with.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I take the same thing. They're doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_00:They're doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's I only do it if I can. Like if there's a gap in my schedule and I'm all caught up on work and it's not gonna like cause a problem. But because otherwise, like I'm you need the sleep debt thing.
SPEAKER_00:I'm curious about your sleep debt.
SPEAKER_01:I'm also curious about because I'm tired of this will tell you all the fucking time.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, but this will also tell you your recovery. So based on your heart rate variability and your resting heart rate, all that, it tells like your recovery. So like today I'm 42%. How much is this? This um it depends. There's different options. You can get the whole whoop for free, and then it's like just a monthly fee, or you could pay one time for the year or like forever, or you could just buy this and like like the d device and like a device not do the subscription, I think. I don't know. But I just got mine for free and then just I pay the subscription. But there's like different levels, but I have the one that's like everything. Yes, which you wouldn't need it. It does all this too, but might do the EKG one because I was like kind of worried when I was doing all the heart, like on all the cardio and stuff. I'm like, I wonder if my heart, like I don't know. Anyways, it affects like AFib and all this stuff. I know. You maybe actually need this one, it might be covered under your insurance at this point.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so I recently started doing um deliveries for Walmart as like a fourth job because it pays more than DoorDash. So um, but yeah, you were there the uh the other day for like ever. I have social anxiety really bad, and part of the Walmart deliveries is you actually do the shopping for the person. Like, I don't think a lot of people realize that it's not Walmart people grabbing your groceries. Sometimes it is, but 90% of the time it's me doing the shopping and the delivery for that singular person. So I have to go shopping at Walmart like multiple times in one day.
SPEAKER_00:Are they like, here she is again?
SPEAKER_01:My fucking anxiety cannot handle it. So recently my Fitbit keeps congratulating me on my workouts and I'm not working out. I'm literally just having panic attacks in Walmart while doing deliveries.
SPEAKER_00:You oh my god, if you would have like screenshot and sent that to me, like Heather, look, I'm working out and it was just your panic attacks.
SPEAKER_01:Let me show you.
SPEAKER_00:You're like, I'm doing so good today. Congratulations, panic attack.
SPEAKER_01:When did I work at Walmart?
SPEAKER_00:This is my monthly work. Meanwhile, my heart is so conditioned, even when I'm working out, it's like not detecting that.
SPEAKER_01:These ones that are over the target but are lower, that's DoorDash, and then that's working at Walmart.
SPEAKER_00:That's so wild. Mine detects that okay, so this is why you need it. It's bad, guys. Okay, so mine would detect that as stress.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, mine thinks that I'm working out because I have a raised heart rate.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but like mine because it gets to know you over time, sure. It'll tell it'll detect, but also working out is a form of stress.
SPEAKER_01:It does tell me my daily readiness score, and because I like I slept, but it wasn't super great. Um, my daily readiness is only a 53. I'm only 53% ready for the day, and yet I'm living it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, mine's at 42 today. That makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:You had a rough night.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. Oh, my sleep debt increased to 58 minutes from last night.
SPEAKER_01:I'm really intrigued by this sleep debt. Yeah. What is the longest you've ever gone in your whole life that you can remember without sleep?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I mean, there was that one time where we didn't go to bed a couple days or a day. I think that's about it. That's it? And I even think I napped then. I'm definitely sure I found a bed and went to sleep.
SPEAKER_01:So here's the longest I've ever gone with like naps.
SPEAKER_00:I say a couple days, I'm like, that was just like a 12-hour period overnight.
SPEAKER_01:When I have I've always struggled with sleep. When I was in high school, I was an insomniac, and there was a stretch where I went 16 days without like full sleep. I would take like 20-minute power naps, and that was it. And I just couldn't. My mom tried everything. She handed me I know, because we're tired. She handed me four um melatonin. No, they were like uh uh ambient and four and I was at die. No, and it was on me because she's like, here, take these, and then she turned around to grab like a beverage for me and then turned around. She's like, So take one now. And I was like, one, and she's like, Did you just take all of them? And I was like, Yes. I still didn't sleep for 36 hours.
SPEAKER_00:Like she wouldn't have. We were doing that weird ambient shit where you're just a given project.
SPEAKER_01:She's like, hey, someone in my work's having a baby since you can't sleep. You just knit a baby blanket and I would just sit on the couch and not be able to fucking sleep. I don't know. Child labor. I suck at sleep so I'm way better now.
SPEAKER_00:Meanwhile, she's just drugging you so you stay awake.
SPEAKER_01:She's like, God damn it, I need to make that blanket. I don't want to do it. Just sprinkle it a little meth in your drink.
SPEAKER_00:This'll keep her up. Those were ambient, those are those trucker pills that keep you up.
SPEAKER_01:She'd share. She would never. She would never. No, that's funny. No, I've just I've always been bad at it. And then that's part of the I've been on every medication under the sun, it feels like. For sad people and people in pain and all the things. Lots and lots of fucking meds. But now you're off. 90% of them. One of the side effects is insomnia. And they're like, they're preaching to me about the importance of sleep. She keeps yawning every single time.
SPEAKER_00:I said sleep. My body's like, Yeah, we can do that. I literally have an ability. The boyfriend's like, it's really weird. You can like go pee in the middle of the night and then be back asleep in like two seconds. I'm like, Oh god, I can't do that. And then I was like, I sleep pee, and I'm like, no, I sleep walk pee to pee. Then it just sounds like I'm just free peeing at night. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Cold the sack for a second because I'm not gonna be a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00:I have an ability to go to sleep so well.
SPEAKER_01:I was camping with a friend when I was in high school, and her mom sleep peed. Like her mom, yes, not sleep walk peed, sleep peed. She got up, quote unquote, got up. She was asleep. She sat up, she walked to the end of her own bed, sat on the bed and peed there, got up and went and laid back in the bed because she was asleep the whole time.
SPEAKER_00:I've always went to the bathroom.
SPEAKER_01:I was all like, what just happened? It was not okay. And we've camping in an RV, so I was like, what do we do? She just went to bed. Because even then I couldn't fucking sleep.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh. That is so funny.
SPEAKER_01:What have you- I used to be a good sleeper when I was like little, little, little.
SPEAKER_00:I don't remember. I think I've always slept good.
SPEAKER_01:I've slept in weird places. Like my very first concert ever was New Kids on the Block.
SPEAKER_00:You want to talk about sleeping in weird places. I am Cinderella. You are. Ask me if I sleep good, and now that I'm thinking about it, I'm fucking Cinderella. Have you ever had me is there any place that I have not been able to go to sleep?
SPEAKER_01:See, I used to, but when I was like five.
SPEAKER_00:I think about the audacity of me just going into someone's house and being like, I'm asleep.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just gonna sleep. And you've done that more than once. Yes. Yeah, you've we've just arrived at a location. Where is she going? I'm like, she's sleeping. It's fine. She just needs a little power now.
SPEAKER_00:Gonna go to the bathroom and I found a bed.
SPEAKER_01:Give her an hour and she'll be back.
SPEAKER_00:Or not. Or not. We'll talk to her tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:That's fair. Honestly, it's more or not than.
SPEAKER_00:Or not. It's hard to wake me up.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, it is. Yes. I fell asleep at a concert one time.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I'm saying. When I was five, I fell New Kids on the Block. First concert ever fell asleep before they even got on stage. Never saw the concert. I was five, but I slept through the whole thing. Fucking concert. And one time we were at Skate Plaza, and for anyone who doesn't live in the in the Northwest, it's a is it still around? Yeah, it still exists. It's owned by the church now, so that's fucking weird. They won't play music with words in it anymore because weird. Yeah, you'll go to hell. Don't you know? It's don't you know. Don't you know? It's Idaho. I told you, remember when we talked about that?
SPEAKER_00:It went from the syphilis signs to the You need Jesus. Beat your wife. You need Jesus. Cheat on your wife. You need Jesus. Jesus stop. Literally, one was like, Do you like porn? Jesus. And there was like a 1-800 number and Jesus on the cross. I'm like, wow. I'm gonna start taking pictures of these so we can share them with all the listeners who are not local.
SPEAKER_01:It's the weird thing about the United States is like just drive a little bit and you're in a different fucking place. It's weird. People are strange. Yeah, but I fell asleep in the middle of the skating rink. Like people are actively skating around me, and I'm just like skating, skating, skating. I'm tired. Boop, out. And now you had narcolepsy. And now it's turned into insomnia.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I feel like the dogs could do it too.
SPEAKER_01:I don't sleep with the dogs in the bed anymore. I I do everything fucking right and I still can't fucking sleep. That's what pisses me.
SPEAKER_00:Isn't this the story of our life? We can do all the things right and we still get no.
SPEAKER_01:Therapist was all like, you need to sleep in silence. So I started fucking, I shut everything off and I just lay there with the fucking static in my head and then.
SPEAKER_00:Do the leap things. I'm really excited to hear if they work. I cannot believe that's the most lazy thing I've ever heard, though. Oh, I have them.
SPEAKER_01:Two years ago, too, and I've never tried them.
SPEAKER_00:You're like laying there in bed. I wonder if I can solve this problem somehow. Oh, they're right here next to my head, have been for two years. Hmm. Weird.
SPEAKER_01:I think what happened was I tried I was gonna use them and I took them out like one time, but they had the really big um earpieces, and I needed to replace them with the little ones, and I couldn't because of my stupid fingernails, and I got-boys that would be happy to do it. I'm just frustrated, and I was like, I'll do this later, and I've never done it since.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, speaking of your nails are nice.
SPEAKER_01:Aren't they cute? My nail girl is super good.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, she has. Yeah, I love her.
SPEAKER_01:I always make her do fucked up crazy shit. These are relatively simple for the things I make her do. I know I uh Thanksgiving's hard. I don't want fucking turkeys. I don't like holiday stuff. No, you've always been on the classy side of nails. It's always pretty much either white or black. Very minimalist on the design. Yeah, and I'm all like full every because we're not the fucking same. We're not. You're on opposite ends of the nail spectrum. Yours are also pointy and mine are.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I do like the almond.
SPEAKER_01:I did almond for a little bit and it made my hand look really stubby. And my fingers look fat.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's because we have different hand shapes. No, I have chubby little hands. I have to do that. I have little sausage. I have little sausage fingers. Look at that. It's like chubby.
SPEAKER_01:Your fingers are slightly taller.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, my ring size is like a seven and a half, maybe an eight right now.
SPEAKER_01:Really?
SPEAKER_00:Mine's like a five and a half. I told you I had like big little fingers. Big little fingers. And I have like little toes proportionate. Little feet, like a seven and a half and okay.
SPEAKER_01:Your toes are always done, huh?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Always white chrome.
SPEAKER_01:Always white chrome.
SPEAKER_00:I've been doing the moon chrome right now. It used to be the unicorn chrome, but the moon chrome is like slightly blue tint to it. The unicorn is more pinky when it hits the light. This is more blue. So yes, always white with moon chrome. I always get red if I do my toes. And it used to always be black, remember? Like my soul.
SPEAKER_01:Yours is light. Okay, this might be part of the reason why you're Tigger and I'm Eeyore because you fucking sleep and I struggle.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't realize I slept so much because I feel like I'm always tired.
SPEAKER_01:But is it your brain that's tired or is it your body that's tired?
SPEAKER_00:Because I feel like there's different types of tired Okay, well, emotionally, I probably just real fucking tired. Like I think I've just been holding up um I stuff and mask a lot. So I think about it on this time, it always like highlights more that like Luke is gone. And not so much like, I mean, obviously I'm always gonna miss him, all that kind of stuff, but like just being like the solo person to take care of everything gets to be like weighing a lot. When it's holidays and stuff, because you have kids' birthday and then and Luke's birthday and then yeah, everything just kind of like piles, and then it's like Christmas. Oh no, it's just like I'm just one person, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I get that. I'm emotionally tired because I just stuff and stuff and stuff every time. There's been like maybe three or four times in the past month where like tears have like tried real hard to fucking come, and I'm like, no, you fucking don't. I'm gonna shove that shit down.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god, I actually didn't shove it down and I called you.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I'm very proud of you.
SPEAKER_00:That was like the first time that's happened since like for years.
SPEAKER_01:It's good though, it's important because really you can you literally can only shove shit down and cherish that.
SPEAKER_00:It won't be uh it my ability to shove the shit down.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, and I put aside the fact that I absolutely despise speaking on the phone so that I could be there for you.
SPEAKER_00:And you did.
SPEAKER_01:I did. And then I hate For like 45 minutes.
SPEAKER_00:That's weird for me too, because I hate the phone.
SPEAKER_01:I fucking hate the phone.
SPEAKER_00:Me and you both are like that. Are we the only like females that are like that? I actually like is it so weird because I feel like I used to always be attached to my phone in one way or another.
SPEAKER_01:I think us not liking the phone is for different reasons.
SPEAKER_00:I just don't want to be attached to it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. See, mine is like I worked in a call center and I had to cold call people all the time, and I'm like, I don't ever want to speak on the phone. Or then I was at another call center and I was working in the returns and exchanges department for uh Virgin Mobile. So I just got screamed at on the phone all day, every day, while I was pregnant with Deegan, and it was emotional and like traumatizing. And I'm like, I fucking hate talking on the phone. No good ever comes from it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know why. I think I'm just burnt out from the phone.
SPEAKER_01:Plus, if you my memory thing.
SPEAKER_00:That's an Aries thing with the phone.
SPEAKER_01:My memory is shit. And if you tell me verbally something, the chances of me remembering it are way less than if you send it to me in writing. So I prefer everything to be in writing so that I can accurately remember.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. Also, I never delete anything, so I literally have every single text thread from yeah, you're like you You don't. It's do you want to see how many emails I have?
SPEAKER_01:No, because it'll give me anything. Do you want to see how many?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, this is how we're not the same. We're just getting off on the sleep topic.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but it's related to sleep because it's me throughout the day.
SPEAKER_00:How many unread text messages do you have? None. Oh. Why would I have any? Do you want to know? Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even have Do you know how many people send me text messages? The answer is not a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to. But right now it's like, why does it give you anxiety?
SPEAKER_00:Do you want to Okay, just okay, we'll go over or under. Same enough, like, okay, over, over or under.
SPEAKER_01:25.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wow, how over. Gross.
SPEAKER_01:500. Over. No, we're done.
SPEAKER_00:1,298 text messages.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Look.
SPEAKER_01:Look, does it Okay, so this is that look, is that buggy?
SPEAKER_00:All those things.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm not even gonna look at your phone. But this also might be part of the reason why I struggle falling asleep because I have to clear all of my notifications on everything before I can lay down. I have to play all of my video games or on that are on my phone up to a stopping point. What? Yeah. It's I You know what I do?
SPEAKER_00:Peace. I just walk away from stuff half-responded to, which is why everybody who I never get back to, here's the thing. If you text me, I'm either gonna Don't be offended. Do not, do not be able to. If you get hear back from me, oh, you are one of the very few that got through. If you never hear from me, it's because I text you probably in my head, or you're lost in the void and the abyss. And don't take it personal. Try to get back to the top. There is 1,298 unread messages. You gotta come back to the top.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, if I don't message you back, it's because I thought I messaged.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, but you pinned it.
SPEAKER_01:And I forgot to hit send. It's probably drafted.
SPEAKER_00:We're at a different level. I'm just like, I'm like, um, hello. We're like, question marks. Did you read that? Or I just call. I will text you and then call. And I'm like, did you see that? You're like, literally, you just called after. I'm like, okay, I'll be I'll wait on the case.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't even had time to open it. And I'm like, I'm on top of it.
SPEAKER_00:And I'm like, go ahead, you open it right now, I'll wait.
SPEAKER_01:That has happened. That has happened.
SPEAKER_00:I'll wait for your response in real time. Go ahead. Why didn't you just call in the first place? It was that intrusive thought of Mike, send oh, I'm just gonna call. No, I can't. Okay, now that I think about it, I have my email. I'm the one that gives you a lot of like right now.
SPEAKER_01:I have email, I have seven emails on my phone so that I can go through and I can delete them. Oh, I have so that when I actually go in to utilize my email, I'll get it. Okay, no, I don't want to know. But I do this.
SPEAKER_00:56,131.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know how you do that. I literally have to do all of this before I can go to Because this is what I do.
SPEAKER_00:I go like this. Lacey. New all it oh, I don't need any of that stuff?
SPEAKER_01:Okay. You don't even clear them from your God. If I get too many on here, I'll hit clear all and then I will manually go through every app to try to clear out the notifications. You have come so far, Lacey. That's great. There's no going to be a good one. Why are you fucking just follow asleep? It takes me two hours to clear all of my notifications.
SPEAKER_00:All you have to do is just have a level of I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_01:I can't do that. I feel like it's very freeing.
SPEAKER_00:Just take my phone for a day. I also I would get it back with zero notifications.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, I would fucking clear out everything.
SPEAKER_00:Annoys Lily so badly. She tries to go in and like, I'm like, all right, whatever. If you want to clear them out for me, it's fine. But then she like to try to like organize my phone and stuff, and I'm like, don't do that, then I can't find anything. She does the weird thing where she puts everything like in one color, and all the apps are like not the actual apps, they're like little stickers of like the theme that she'd shoot, and I can't.
SPEAKER_01:No. We're too old for that.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, I don't want to do that. That sounds like mice base coding. That's do you remember doing that?
SPEAKER_01:Um, ish. I know I had one. I know that I did all the things, but I don't actually remember doing it. I couldn't do it now.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I feel like we should bring back?
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_00:The top eight. Or your top four, your top whatever. Remember when you could do that?
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, she moved her out of her top eight.
SPEAKER_00:What happened? Or then when you could do like, oh, only top four? I was like, oh yeah, I'm really cool. I'm only gonna have a few. You're gonna be real select.
SPEAKER_01:Listen, I don't know. I've never had a lot of friends. I've never been like I'm pretty sure I only had eight. So it's just like, what order are you in today?
SPEAKER_00:Like Um I wish we could go back and look at our MySpaces.
SPEAKER_01:I know that's the they're there. You just have to remember how the fuck to get in it. I know, but how do you go find them? I think you just go to MySpace. There's no way. There's no way. My way. Myspace.com. It's trying to open. Oh it's trying. It's a clickable link.
SPEAKER_00:Literally, is it yours?
SPEAKER_01:I don't I would have no idea what mine is.
SPEAKER_00:We need to do MySpace and then your name.
SPEAKER_01:I have no idea. I couldn't even tell you the last time I was on MySpace.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know, but also Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, it says I can sign in. Let me see. Oh god, what the fuck would my forgot your details, yep?
SPEAKER_00:Actually, yeah. How would we Okay guys, we're doing this.
SPEAKER_01:I'm trying.
SPEAKER_00:We're going down the MySpace hole. This is crazy. Then we're gonna have to share with everyone.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what my email would have been at that time, but it's not my current one.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, I've had the same email forever.
SPEAKER_01:You might be able to get in.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I've literally had the same email.
SPEAKER_01:I thought that I've only ever had this email, but apparently not. But I've had this email for ever. I was really glad that I didn't make a weird email when I was. I still have my weird email.
SPEAKER_00:I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna roll with it. I've come this far.
SPEAKER_01:I know what your email is.
SPEAKER_00:I know. And it's gonna be that forever.
SPEAKER_01:Isn't that weird that I just know that? Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I know yours too, your work one, apparently. You're like, quit emailing me at work. I'm like, oh sorry. I did have to tell you that. I'm like, oh, I don't know. I just was pushing reply. You're like, Heather, this is my work email. I'm like, oh shit. Sorry about that. I am that friend. I am that friend. I am like the most loyal best friend ever, but you kind of have to tell me things sometimes.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, oh, I just assumed we would they changed my work email um within the past month because now we're we are a different company name. I almost outed myself. I'm like, oh, I work here. I'm sure I have probably a lot of times. I don't think so. I no, I don't want to. If I did, I effed up. Which you know probably. Sometimes you don't realize that you don't want to say it until after you say it.
SPEAKER_00:And then you're like, whoops. And then you're like, damn it. I wish I didn't do that.
SPEAKER_01:Don't edit anything.
SPEAKER_00:Which could be really bad for us one day, but in the meantime.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I'm all like we had a we had a side conversation before we got on the mics today.
SPEAKER_00:That we can never have on mic.
SPEAKER_01:We can't. And I was like, you if we cannot express our opinions about certain things, regardless of what side of the issue we're on. Like we're just certain topics are off limits on this podcast period.
SPEAKER_00:And it's not like we don't want to share them, it's just like we don't need it's I don't need to be on recording for anything that I say.
SPEAKER_01:Because sometimes I see it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, because your opinion can be your and I have kind of an aggressive opinion, apparently.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:I've been told. It says that I got I got email instructions on how to get into my MySpace.
SPEAKER_01:Did you really?
SPEAKER_00:I literally did look at reset password. I did Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:I love it. I want to see so bad. I hate that. I literally have no idea what mine would be. Like I couldn't even fathom.
SPEAKER_00:We're literally doing this.
unknown:I love it.
SPEAKER_01:That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00:Whoops. I can't believe it's the same. Okay. Hold please. Talk to them. How do you still have the same email? I told you I never get rid of anything. Yeah. Is that bad?
SPEAKER_01:No. No, because let me tell you, one of the things that I do at my job is I make my team document everything and save everything because there are so many times where people in this life will try to fucking blame you for shit that you didn't do. And it is important to have evidence of that. You can prove so much with just your phone for years and years. You know what I mean? Like, ain't nobody gonna be able to tell you nothing.
SPEAKER_00:It's like making me put a new password and it's saying they don't match. Yes, it does. What doesn't match? Ooh, my phone volume was on. Um, my password. It's making me do a new password. You guys, we're about to get into MySpace. This is so weird. So exciting. This is so weird.
SPEAKER_01:That's the weird thing. As close as we are, like, could you imagine if we would have met in like high school instead of after we had kids?
SPEAKER_00:Right?
SPEAKER_01:I wonder if we would have been friends. I probably are you still picking a password?
SPEAKER_00:Nope, I agree. Okay, all it did was to get me to how do you go to my it's weird, it's different.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_00:It's different.
SPEAKER_01:It's not owned by Tom. Oh, it's still going.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I don't know what's happening.
SPEAKER_01:Oh do people still use it?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I can post? What? That's weird. It says it's still updating, though. I don't it's not like it used to be, guys. It's not like it used to be. Sorry, I'm like sniffling in the microphone. That's probably the most disgusting thing ever. Still recovering from the sickness.
SPEAKER_01:Ugh, don't get me sick. No, I don't have it anymore.
SPEAKER_00:I successfully sick, which is good. Okay, so here we are in MySpace. But can you see your stuff?
SPEAKER_01:Because right now you just see a feed. Is it like an app now? I have no idea. Sorry, I was drinking my coffee. Um I have made myself coffee for almost every day for like the last week. And the last time I did that was before we lived in our current house. We've lived in our current house for almost seven years. I'm very proud of myself for actively making myself coffee on the regular. But caffeine doesn't help me. So I don't get as much sleep as I should, and I can't even drink caffeine to wake the fuck up. I think B12 is the one thing that kind of helps. Like I feel like zip fizz actually kinda helps. Coffee, no. Energy drinks, no. I don't get any sort of like lift from them. I just think they taste. Well, I think it's not meant for like a phone. I think you need like a real computer to look at it.
SPEAKER_00:It's so weird.
SPEAKER_01:Because it was never designed for for phones.
SPEAKER_00:They like, see, it shows there there's just nothing there. It says top eight. I have six photos on one of I don't know. There's stuff there, but it's not there. Anyways, that was a rabbit hole we just went down.
SPEAKER_01:I think you went down. It was there, but it's not talking about coffee.
SPEAKER_00:I wanted to see the pictures. I wanted to see this the crazy. What how long ago is that? What it was like.
SPEAKER_01:Um anytime I find old photos of me, it's always so weird. Because like I had a my first phone was definitely like a Nokia brick, so it's not like I have everybody had one of those? And then I had the um the razor. The meat. I had it when it very first came out.
SPEAKER_00:I worked in a cell phone place, and so I had it the second it came out. Of course you did.
SPEAKER_01:So you've always been that way.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, I like my new electronics, my new phones, my new phones. Yeah, this is also why we're not the same because you and your Android.
SPEAKER_01:I'm Android, and she's Apple, and she gets really pissed off that I'm Android. I don't really care that you're Apple, I just don't get it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't get yours. The blue bubbles freak me out. The green bubbles, excuse me. The fact that you don't have blue bubbles, that sounds weird. The fact you don't have blue bubbles.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, on my side, I'm purple and you're black. Oh, no. I can change and make it whatever I want, and I can change it for one individual person, or I can change the whole scheme. Everything on my phone is dark. I like dark mode.
SPEAKER_00:Lacey, it's green. Oh, the sourdough. I have become a sourdough master. I mean, I wouldn't say master, but I've definitely figured it out. That's awesome. Um, yeah, she has a name. Her name is Well, because the first she has a name.
SPEAKER_01:She has a name. That's good. I'm glad she has a name. Do you want to share it?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I do. Okay, so the first starter was Bready Mercury, but then he died. So we took we we got rid of him. He we just didn't feed him correctly, so it's my bad. Anyways, threw him out. He's in the garbage. So then we got a new one. This is Dowie Parton.
SPEAKER_01:That's funny.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't like Breddy Mercury, though. That was that was a good one.
SPEAKER_00:Right? Lily didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01:Where did you get your starter from?
SPEAKER_00:Um, this one that I have now is from Natasha. Do you want one?
SPEAKER_01:No, because I would kill it for sure. I cannot bake.
SPEAKER_00:I showed you the loaves. Wait till you they're so good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you sent me photos.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna make them for you now, but I didn't think you wanted a big hunk of sourdough for first thing in the morning.
SPEAKER_01:It was I mean, I was probably a good thing that I can't bake because I have no self-control in the body.
SPEAKER_00:It's a croissant loaf. I shaved butter in it on fold two and three.
SPEAKER_01:Look at you. You're so excited. I did I get it turned. People could see your face right now. Like you're so fucking excited.
SPEAKER_00:I am like the sourdough, like there's just something about it. Like when the loaf comes out, it's like, look what I did. I turned that fermenting.
SPEAKER_01:I tried to make biscuits once and they came out as flatbreads, and I still don't know what I did because I followed a fucking recipe and I can baking powder in there. I followed the recipe to a tea. Like I double checked everything because I suck at baking, and it's just I can't you can cook though. I yeah. I made mac and cheese for Thanksgiving dinner specifically because my niece requested it, and like I brought a 12 by 13 pan full of it, and it was completely gone.
SPEAKER_00:That's good. Yeah, I was like, um, your Thanksgiving picture, you guys looked cute by the way. I didn't even take one.
SPEAKER_01:I had to make sure I was like, hey, will someone take my photo with my children? Because I they're older now, so I don't have any photos. The last time we did any sort of family photo was like three years ago we did a Christmas photo, and that was the last time I need updated photos.
SPEAKER_00:You really do? That is expensive. Okay, well, I think so. Our topic of sleep. I know we totally went off. We need it. Um also coming back to driving tired is worse than driving drunk.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. I have nodded off in the vehicle multiple times. That that one weekend in Seattle when I left your ass because you went fucking psycho. I was I kept like tracks. Tracks. I kept hitting the fucking rumble strip because I was so tired. Because I didn't even leave Seattle until two o'clock in the morning. Again, you know, we had been well, except that we had been up and partying and we we worked out all morning, and then we had been drinking since like noon, and it was 2 a.m. And I was expecting it. We were with my brother. Yeah, it was just, and me and you had been fighting, so like my adrenaline was wearing off, and like I didn't have anything. My phone was gone. So like I was just like in fight or flight mode while trying to drive home by myself, and like I was so exhausted because all of the adrenaline went away, and I kept hitting the rumble strip. I had to keep pulling over into rest offs and taking like 20-minute long hours. I so many fucking dress. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Can't believe someone didn't be like knock on the window and it's like, are you working right now?
SPEAKER_01:I had my jacket, so I used my jacket as like a little fucking blanket, but like, yeah, I was a slunny little dress. Yeah, it took me eight hours to get home from fucking Seattle because I had to keep pulling over because I kept falling asleep at the wheel. I didn't get home until 10 a.m.
SPEAKER_00:At least you got home. And then I'm like, what are you doing? You're like, you fucking psycho. I'm like, where are you at? You're like fucking home.
SPEAKER_01:I'm literally, we were messaging on Facebook Messenger because I had to be on the computer because I didn't have a fucking cell phone.
SPEAKER_02:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:And then just this past uh summer, me and the boys, when we drove to Denver, it was a 15-hour car ride, and like we left at two in the morning, and we were so fucking tired, and like it got to a point I looked at Deegan and Ashton's already passed out, and I was like, we gotta just pull over in a red stop and like sleep for half an hour because I cannot keep going. It makes you more tired. Yes, you know what I mean? Like the the lull of the fucking freeway.
SPEAKER_00:It definitely does. All right. Well, on that note, we will uh stay awake, everybody. I'm gonna keep yawning.
SPEAKER_01:I know. You've been yawning this entire episode. I've been drinking my coffee. I mean, it doesn't do anything. It tastes delicious, but it doesn't do anything.
SPEAKER_00:Should we shotgun an energy drink?
SPEAKER_01:Fuck no. I no. That's so funny. I literally had this conversation at Thanksgiving dinner last night. No, I'm too old to do that shit. When when I worked at Texas, the fucking girls, the waitresses at Texas would literally fucking shotgun Red Bulls before shift. And I'm like, I that is a moment when I was like, I know I'm old now. They could just take a do that.
SPEAKER_00:They could just take a caffeine pill and it would do the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:No, but they'd film it and put it on TikTok. It was a whole thing. I'm not a part of that crowd.
SPEAKER_00:I'm like, I don't, I was joking when I said that, but now should we do it? Not seeing we did. I don't care. All right. You let us know if you are gonna shotgun an energy drink. I want to see it. Send us videos. Send us videos. We want to see. Are you shotgunning an energy drink? Don't not any random the way that we're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, don't die, though. Like, that's dangerous shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, do a low, low caffeine one. Make sure you don't consume above 400 milligrams per day total in totality. No more than 200 at a time.
SPEAKER_01:You can look that up. That's a real fact.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, no more than 200 at a time. All right.
SPEAKER_01:Stay safe out there, guys. Get some sleep.