we are NOT the SAME

From Choppelgangers To Goblin Mode: Trends, Lookalikes, And Laughs

Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph Season 3 Episode 33

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A stranger says you have a twin—and then sends a photo that’s a little too close for comfort. That’s where we start: with the “choppelganger,” the chopped-up version of you that’s somehow familiar and somehow… not. From there we tumble into the uncanny world of lookalikes, the math behind resemblance, and the subtle ways Hollywood and algorithms nudge us into face clusters that all start to blur.

We trade stories of accidental twins, from teens finding mirror images on Instagram to the Margot Robbie lookalike vortex that proves how casting types shape what we think beauty is. A study pegging the odds of a convincing double at about one in 135 kicks off questions about identity, bias, and why a banana photo can haunt your feed for years. Then the vibe flips into a rapid tour of modern slang and culture: quiet quitting as a survival strategy, goblin mode as a comfort manifesto, riz as charisma-with-vowels-missing, and de-influencing as the rare antidote to hype. We argue about Labubu collectibles, call clogs “potato shoes,” and unpack how Champion leapt from bargain bin to near-luxury through pure brand alchemy.

We also get real about pain and care. A stubborn back injury, muscle relaxers that underwhelm, and a dental anxiety spiral turn into a candid look at how bodies metabolize meds differently and how policy shifts leave everyday patients managing discomfort with humor and grit. We round it out with a playful self-audit—sunshine hurricane vs. grumpy cat energy, food goblin joy, and the thrill of spending when it’s finally allowed—that doubles as a friendship map.

If you love culture decoded with heart and side-eye, this one’s for you. Hit play, then tell us: have you met your doppelganger, and which trend would you retire tomorrow? Subscribe, share with a friend who swears they saw your twin, and leave a review to help more listeners find the show.

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Welcome to We Are Not the Same. I am Lacey.

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My name's Heather. We are your hosts.

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Heather's struggling today, folks.

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I'm broken.

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Welcome to Mumwor.

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Oh my gosh. I have an unidentified injury to my lower back. It's just been getting worse and worse.

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It's been the same injury, let's be clear. Oh, that I've had.

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I think I've talked about it.

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Yeah. Because it's been a long time since I've been talking about it.

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But now it's been like now it's finally. Oh, because I couldn't walk.

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Yeah.

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Or do anything. I can't bend over, still can't.

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It's funny to watch you though.

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I know. It's real sick.

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I don't have sympathy just because I I like, yeah. That's yep.

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You're like welcome to my life.

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Yeah.

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It hurts so bad. Yeah.

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But it's different when it's when you're not used to it.

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Yeah. It's I mean, obviously it's different. Our pain areas are different. Our pain is different.

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It's definitely different spots. Yours is like right where you bend.

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I actually cannot bend or have any strength. I can't actually walk up steps without assistance right now.

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I know.

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It's so sad.

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But you got muscle relaxers that do nothing.

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Actually, they do nothing. I still feel the answers. We're gonna go look and see if there's like a tear or something, but yeah. That's weird. I'm laying like this because it's the only way it's like I'm not laying. Well, lounging, reclining. Lounging. Um, and I can't really see you because then I turned my head in the curtain. I know. No, you're alright. I'm just like talking to my curtain.

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But that's okay.

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Whatever gets you through it.

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Alright, so today. Oh, but there's yawn. Okay.

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It's because it's dark out.

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It is so dark.

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We normally record in the morning, but schedules did not align. So it is it is dark outside and it feels weird.

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It really is. Okay, so we well, I came across a term that I fucking loved and I sent it to you, and you're like, what? And it's choppel ganger.

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Just first off, listen. How do these words just get how do you just like create a word that all of a sudden everybody fucking knows? I just don't want to create one.

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How come mine never get picked up because they're fucking weird? I don't know.

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What words do you I can't think of a word that you created.

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It's just because I accidentally combined two words or I did said something that like funny to me.

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Like, think of like slang, right? Over the years. Like, who's the first person to say something? And like, how does that how does that spread to a point where like an entire generation uses that term? It's fucking crazy to me. Okay. I don't watch TikTok, so I'm so out of the loop on everything.

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So I really did not call it the TikTok.

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I did not call it the TikTok. I'm working on it because now I'm self-conscious about it. But I do rely on you to provide me like Yeah, choppelganger.

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Choppel ganger. And what does choppelganger mean? So we all know what doppelganger means, right? Yes. Someone that looks like you.

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Yes.

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Well, choppelganger is the chopped-up version of you. Tell me that's not funny. They're ugly. Yes. It is your ugly counterpart. It's so funny.

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Part of the reason why that's so funny to me is because uh The choppel gangers, and I have had somebody send me a photo of somebody that I will now categorize as a choppel ganger eating a banana in a very weird way. And I'm they're like, this looks just like you. And like I'm looking at the photo and I'm like, in an uncomfortable way, it does. But like, I think I'm prettier than that.

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Like they're like, that's my choppel ganger.

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Literally, okay, I know no one else can see this but Heather, but it's gonna make her feel better, so I'm gonna do it anyway. This is literally the position that the girl is in. Imagine I have a banana in my hand. And this and this is a bed.

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And she's like that's also something you would do.

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No, it is not. Absolutely not. First off, I don't think I would ever take a photo with me holding a banana in the first place, let alone pretending to um do things to it. That's not that's not my scene, baby.

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Um, so you have a troppelganger.

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I apparently I do. Don't they have like statistics of like how many people look like other people? Like, because I get that DNA's individual to an extent, but like genetics, there's only so many fucking options, right? Like, I feel like the likelihood of running into somebody that looks like you is how high is that?

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Let me look.

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Yeah, look it up because I swear there's like a legit statistic. There's like Facebook groups where people will go out of their way to like meet people that look like them. Could you imagine if you're a part of that group and you find out you're the chopple ganger? Like you think you're meeting somebody that like looks just like you, and then you find out that they're like the prettier version of you. And you're just like, that's fucking rude.

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You're like, oh, I'm the choppel ganger in this.

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I feel like that would hurt your ego a little bit. Are there no statistics on it?

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Um, what percentage of people have doppelgangers? Yeah, that's good. What are the odds? Um It doesn't give me an actual statistics. Okay, a study by researchers, researchers using facial recognition technology estimated that the likelihood of finding a pair of doppelgangers is about one in 135. Wow. That's not very many.

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That's way lower than I expected that to be. That's kind of creepy.

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They're not exact matches, but they compare surprisingly similar to the average viewer. So facial recognition software says that one in 135 people are similar enough to have the same face. That's crazy. That means your facial recognition is not that good, right? No. Um Lily's gotten into my phone before.

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Okay, well, yeah, she looks like you that makes sense. That makes sense.

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Didn't I send you her doppelganger? Who also does cheer? Okay, wait till you see this. Oh my gosh. Okay, but think about Hollywood. Lily found her on Instagram and then followed her. Oh, yeah.

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What is the name?

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Tell me that doesn't look like Lily.

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Oh no! I've seen that girl, and I almost sent it to you. Oh, I did! I think I did it to you.

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And I was all like, this is Lily's doppelganger. And Lily was like, she does cheer, it's so weird. And she looks just like Lily. Like when like enough to where I had to watch the video twice to make sure that's a little bit more.

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Yeah. I know. I was like, I told Lily, I was like, Lily, get over here, and she's like, What? I'm like, why are you letting someone else do your hair? And she's like, huh? And then she was creeped out because she's like that. And she has that like top and everything. Yeah. It looks so much like her.

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What is the name of that actress? There's like six of them who all look identical.

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I have no idea.

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Uh Margot Robbie is one of them. Hold on. Actresses that look like like it's crazy. Hold on. Actresses. Actresses look like Margot. Robbie. Okay. Hold on when I show you this. These are all different people.

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No.

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That is six different people, not six photos of the same person. And they are all actresses in Hollywood because they have a fucking type. Isn't that crazy?

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Yeah.

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It's weird.

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That is. Okay.

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Yeah.

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Google search that. Hold on. Ooh, I found the names. Okay, so there's Samara Weaving. She was the one that was in that um that wedding movie where they played games. What it was like she murdered a bunch of people. They deserved it though. They're making a second one. God, I can't remember what it's like.

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They played games like at the around the table.

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Yeah, they played like hide and seek. But the whole thing was she had to survive the night not being murdered by the family that she just married into. It's a weird ready or not. Ooh, it came to me.

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I'm so good. Do you want to know what I want to see? What? Housemaid.

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Yeah, we should see that. Let's go do that. Let's do that. We haven't been to a movie in a long fucking time. I know it's out now. Let's go. Do you want to go tonight? Do you know the last movie we went and saw together in the theater? I actually remember this, which is weird that I know this, but do you know the last movie we went to see together in the theater?

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Oh my god, it's been so long. It's been a long time. Do you know? Do you know? Like the last one that I can think of is the mom's night. Bad mom! Bad mom's night. That's it. Yes, mom. Where we brought champagne in our life.

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Yes, we sure fucking did.

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Yes.

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And that tells you how long it's been.

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Well, no, remember I was like, look, they sell orange juice here. That means they want us to have mimosas. Hey. Which means it's a sign. I remember that conversation.

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Yes. Okay. So Samara Weaving is one. Emma McKay, Margot Robbie, Jamie Presley, Jillian Jacobs, and Lauren German. They're all different people, but they all literally look the same. It's crazy. But now apparently it's not that crazy because 135? That's so I literally was thinking like one in like 25,000 or something.

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Yeah, no, one in 135. That means at a concert, you're looking at like 10 people that look like you.

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I wonder what the like what their criteria is for because like are you counting in like relatives?

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It says right here, so what they look at facial similarities, um, genetic and uh facial similarities.

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Okay, let's see. Who else do we have here? Who 80 celebrities who look like they could be related? Like, I'm going down the rabbit hole. I do that. When I find things like that, like I'll go down the rabbit hole and look at people. Ooh, this is a good one. Leaton Leighton, Leon, Meister, and Minka Kelly. Look at those two.

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Yes.

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That's so weird. Would you want to like meet your doppelganger?

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Yes.

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You would? Mm-hmm. Just to see if you're like similar as people or not.

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I want me and Lily are gonna track down her doppelganger because I guarantee you they're going to see.

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Are you really?

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Yes.

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You I didn't even think about that. They are probably gonna be at the same cheer thing. That would be weird. If you do that, you gotta get a photo and send it to me.

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I wonder if it's gonna be so crazy because they look so much alike. Yeah.

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But like because we know her cheer profile, you know what team she cheers for. That's that's so funny.

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Has she messaged her to be like, hey, no, she follows her, they follow each other on Instagram now?

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I'm like, I wonder if the other girl, yeah, thinks that they look alike.

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Because they do. It's like crazy.

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Yeah, I remember I watched that video and I was like, wait, wait. That's not Lily, but it looks like her.

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Looks just like her.

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Um I have never seen someone that looks like you. Have you ever had somebody send you a one?

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No. The closest, you know, like when you do your celebrity one or whatever, it's Kristen Cavallari and Cameron Diaz of all people.

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I think it's Honestly, I see that now that you just like the face that you're making and everything. I I see that.

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Okay.

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Especially when you smile. You have a very similar facial structure when you smile. She's pretty. She's very pretty. I'll take it. So is Kristen Cavallari. Oh, she is very pretty.

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She's very pretty. And my face and herself.

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She was married to Jake Cutler, so she also makes bad decisions with men.

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So Save fees.

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I hate Jake Cutler because he was a quarterback for my family.

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Every time you say Jakeler, I think of the bodybuilder.

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Oh, yeah. No. And so I'm like not the same one. Bears football. Go bear!

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We're not the same.

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Good, better, best. Never let it rest till good becomes better and better becomes best. Woo! Bear down. Okay, sorry. No.

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It is, though. It is because now is not the appropriate time. We were talking about the bears. It's always the appropriate time to be talking about the bears. We're in the fucking playoffs. Come on. Let me have this. We suck all the time.

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We suck all the time. And we're doing happy.

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You're always like, I don't want to talk about it.

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Because listen, I am not delusional. I know I might come across that way. No, self-aware. I'm very, I'm very self-aware both of myself and of my teams. And I have a history of liking teams that suck. But I know that. And I still love them and I still root for them. And yes, go bears. Anyway, off topic.

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That's okay.

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Um I don't even remember what topic we were talking about anymore.

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Choppelgangers.

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Oh, yeah, the choppel gangers. Oh, the doppelgangers. So yeah, choppel gangers. Um, the chopped-up version of yourself.

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As soon as, because it's gonna, okay, because that photo that I was talking about with the lady with the banana, it's on my uh Facebook memories because it was someone who sent it to me and decided to send it to me publicly on my Facebook page, and I just didn't delete it. So when it pops up, I will try so hard to remember to send it to you. And even we can post it. I don't know when in the year it pops up, though. You can always an unpleasant surprise. You can search through my memories?

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Yeah, on your Facebook. Go to your Facebook right here and you can search everything. Look, go search. Do you remember what the post said? This person looks like you.

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I know the person who posted it.

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What was her name? Type their name in. Well, here, so like the post, like photo looks like you're a leashadow? Was it someone that said that they they look like you? So if you say looks like you, say looks like you in the search bar.

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Looks like you. Okay.

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Okay, and then push search.

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That's it. Just put looks like.

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And then let me see. Let me see. No, in Facebook. I'm in Facebook. Give me that. Why is yours different?

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Because I put everything on dark mode because the brightness, it hurts my eyes. And then you go posts from. I got ocular shit.

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Post from your friends. Yeah. No, none of that is it. Oh, there's me.

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Weird.

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Why are you there? I don't know. No, no. Okay. That's not it.

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So then we got to- Can I do posts from a certain person onto my page?

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Yep.

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Okay.

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Because seriously, you're gonna die. It's pretty funny. But if you look at it and tell me, of course, the person who did it, they said doppelganger, not choppelganger, because up until literally.

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So then we should put doppelganger on there instead of looks like.

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Oh, maybe they put that word. I don't know. Am I looking up the person now? See, I'm not technical usually.

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Yeah, look up um doppelganger. Or just yeah, put look at the person. We'll see if we can find it that way. Because it'll say post.

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Why do I have so many of these names? And then I don't even know if I'm spelling it right. It must not be. Oh, right there. That's the person.

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Okay, let me see.

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Okay, but now it's just showing me her post. I would need her posts on my page.

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From 2014?

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Probably. It was a long time ago. For sure, it was a long time ago.

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That's it!

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See, doppelganger. Okay. But Lacey, that is actually your doppelganger.

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Okay, thank you. That makes me feel better because when she said that's my doppelganger, I was really offended.

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Fuck off!

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That's so mean!

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How long ago would this photo be taken? That could have been you.

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No.

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To be fair, no, you wouldn't take that photo. This was posted November 12th, 2015. And I just found that shooting. And it literally just put found her doppelganger, and my response was, well, that's disturbing.

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Screenshot that so we can share with our listeners.

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You guys, that's so bad. And if no, because now I'm like, people are gonna be like, oh yeah, that looks just like you. You're gonna hurt my feelings.

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No, that's your choppelganger.

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I hate that it kind of looks like me. It's more like the hairstyle, but if you look at her actual face and the fact that she's wearing glasses, I okay. I really need to preface that this is not me. This is not me, you guys.

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It's not. I wonder how many people are gonna think it's you, just automatically scrolling. I know, that's now I'm scared of post-just say it's my choppleganger. My chopping.

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I'm gonna wait to post the photo until after you post the episode. Which will be Monday.

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That's so funny. But right.

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Now I'm gonna try to be on the lookout for one for you. Actually, if we Do you have one? No, not like off the top of my head, but like I was just thinking of like all the single white females. Oh yes, I mean you, I was like Same difference, right?

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But is that when you want you want to be a doppelganger, but you end up a choppelganger?

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Yeah, where you go out that's the whole thing, right? Because there's there's two different types of like looking like someone. There's like looking like someone naturally, and then there's going out of your way to try to look like somebody else. Yes. And if you just happen to be ugly when you start that process. It's not my fault.

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It's not my fault.

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Okay. I feel like this podcast has made me meaner. No. Am I natural am I just always this mean? I can't help it. Um god. I unlocked my phone and saw the photo again. It is truly a disturbing post. It came up easy. It's not inappropriate.

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By the way, if you need to find anything.

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Yeah, I'm just gonna message you and be like, tell me how to do it. I don't know how to do anything.

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Was that not so easy?

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Yeah, I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't know you could search. I literally will tell my kids, oh, I saw this funny post. We're gonna have to wait till it re pops up next year. No, I will help you.

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You're like fucking Facebook.

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The Facebook! Oh my god.

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Okay. So these are some so besides choppel ganger.

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Yeah, what other are new terms that I probably don't know? Because you're much more hip than I am because you have a teenage daughter.

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Yes. Well, and this is like according to Reddit pop culture. So, yes, that was well, not really Reddit, but you know, like, well, basically not it is, but it's more it is, but this is like just uh from everywhere.

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See, I only read Reddit, not on Reddit.

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That's I don't understand the point of that.

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It's just like I don't the only TikTok site watch are not on TikTok. They're on Facebook or Instagram. That's so weird.

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Okay.

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Um out of touch.

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This is you. What refers to doing the bare minimum at work rather than going above and beyond often as a response of yeah to burnout and Seeing work-life balance and seeking work. What's your name? Quiet quitting.

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Oh. I have heard that term actually. I am I have not. You haven't? No. Because you don't work in corporate America. No. So that's probably why. Because to me, that's not a new term. That's been around for a while. I do not think that what I do is quiet quitting. I will only give 105%, even though I'm capable of 120. Because if I give you 120% at the rate of pay in which you are giving me, then you're gonna just expect that from me constantly. If I give you 105% of what I can do, then you're gonna see that I have additional potential. And that actually will motivate them more to either promote or pay you more money because they're like, well, they're already going above and beyond. And then that gives you room for when you get that raise or you get that promotion to do better with still out, like without putting yourself out to do it. I love that. Yeah. I've worked in corporate for 17 years. Worked your way up. I've worked my way up. Correct. When I first got hired at my company, I made like$11 an hour, and now I make like four times I am on salary. That is that is true. But I make like at least four times that now. So but I also have a shit ton of student loan debt because I did not get my shit forgiven.

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No, they want your money.

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Yeah, because I pay mine. Yes. They forgive the people who don't make payments and then fuck over those of us who do. Like we say, Welcome to America.

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You can keep making that.

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You obviously don't need help. I don't give a shit that you're taking five jobs to do it. You're paying it.

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Like, you're great. We're fine. Well, you know what?

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I have an A12 credit score. So when I die, all I'm gonna have is my Roger Rabbit doll and an A12 credit score.

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No one heard it.

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Like there may be chaos going on. It's fine. It's just a short one. It's fine. Um, next one goblin mode. I love this. Embracing a lazy, comfort-focused lifestyle.

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So I don't have to tell people I'm a hermit anymore. I can tell them I'm a goblin. I don't know what's supposed to be better. I don't know. I'm a goblin.

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You have to say it that way. Um, Riz. I don't I still don't like that one. Uh it's it's weird.

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Uh I don't like it either. It's supposed to mean like charismatic, right?

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Like Yeah, like ability to charm.

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Yeah, okay.

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It's like charisma.

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But how do you get ri Oh okay? That's like when people say that their name is Topher. Like, no, it fucking isn't. It's Christopher. You know what I mean? Yes. Like, that's what Riz is to me. Riz is equivalent to Topher. You're using the wrong word.

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You are.

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The wrong part. Yeah.

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You are. Yep. Um, main character energy, that one's been around. Yeah. Situation ship, we all have been there, done that. Uh de-influencing, counter movement to influencing.

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Let's have more of that, please.

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Yes. Jesus. Individuals encourage others to reconsider unnecessary purchases to three or to think critically about consumerism, and I fully support that.

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I also do, but I also feel like that is like how you get canceled.

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Yeah. Can I have a balance? Right. I don't go back and forth. Like, I don't want to consume as much, but I really love things.

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Yeah. I have a hard time. Oh my god, the laboo-boo. Can we just talk about that? That's another trendy thing that I don't fucking understand. Well, I didn't I don't like them. I'm like, I will never.

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You have them. I know the girls. Because it's a slippery slope when the girls get them, and I'm like, well, if they have them, I kind of feel like I need one too. Justification. I never wanted one until they had. I am. I just put it on there today. It matches. It's cute.

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I just don't, I don't. It's the autistic part of me. I get like my brain literally, I don't understand.

SPEAKER_03

I don't understand why you haven't put one of your like weird creatures on your bag yet.

SPEAKER_02

Like, what weird creatures? I don't know. I have pop dolls. Collectible, yes. Those don't really go on your purse. I don't open my pop dolls either. And I only have very specific pop dolls, unless you can tell if a pop is one that I bought for myself or if it was a gift based off of my collection. Because if it doesn't look like it fits, it was a present.

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So do people just buy you random ones?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because they think I just like pop dolls. And I'm like, no, that's not what this is. I understand why that's confusing for outsiders. But I want very specific ones, and that's it. I don't want my entire room head to toe covered in them. And again, I get how people might not understand that if they looked at my current collection. Because it's large. It's ish. It's not like outrageous, but it's it's large-ish.

SPEAKER_03

It's large.

SPEAKER_02

So isn't that weird how I can understand that, but I can't understand one lab? I don't understand the laboobo. And it's I think it's because I don't ever see the rise of something. Like it's just it wasn't there and then it's everywhere, and it confuses me.

SPEAKER_03

I thought you, of all people, would love those ugly little monsters.

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't. Maybe I don't specifically because it's popular.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe I internally have them to me.

SPEAKER_03

They grew up me. I was like, never because of that reason. I'm like, oh, they're just kind of cute and ugly.

SPEAKER_02

I don't like the fact that like things that like sell out because of popularity or something. Like, you know what I mean? Like it becomes hard to get. It becomes really expensive because it's hard to get it.

SPEAKER_03

I don't like that. I do.

SPEAKER_02

You like that?

SPEAKER_03

I do.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, but then you're potentially spending how much money to get you might get the same shit. You might literally get exactly what you have. That would bother me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but then I have three girls. I just pawn it off on them.

SPEAKER_02

So you potentially could have the same thing.

SPEAKER_03

You know, there's three of us, so.

SPEAKER_02

The only thing I have three of is the Roger Rabbit doll, and that is a very specific reason.

SPEAKER_03

I love Jessica Rabbit. Can I tell you that she was like a rabbit? My like what I thought was like the epitome of sexy things is just what you wanted to grow up into.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, I feel like I'm not far off.

SPEAKER_02

No. I couldn't be sexy if I tried. I moved wrong. I know.

SPEAKER_03

Forgot that I was broken for a second.

SPEAKER_02

You tried to move normal. That was like you move quick. That was the problem. You have to move slow. You gotta think like the tortoise.

SPEAKER_03

We should video how it's like me getting up. We could time it. It's so long. I cannot bend over like getting oh god. It's so awful.

SPEAKER_02

She was she had to bend over um to plug in some of the podcast equipment stuff, and she got stuck-ish. She just stood there.

SPEAKER_03

She's like, I'm just gonna be here a minute. I was like, I'm just gonna stay here while this is going because I can't stand back up. So I was just gonna just hold myself up with my arms and my legs. You're doing a great job.

SPEAKER_02

Oh with your laboo-boo. Well, what I was trying, I could not remember what was like the big thing before the labu-boo. Because there was something else that was like huge, and then it like all of a sudden shift to this, and now it's only this. But I don't remember what the fuck it was.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, but Lily's big on the trends, so I'm always getting she likes those fucking potato shoes that I can't get over.

SPEAKER_02

I don't see again, I don't know. Oh, burger socks are ugly.

SPEAKER_03

And I think they look potatoes, like the clog ones. I think I call them potato shoes, and she loves them, and I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_02

Do they not look like potatoes? That's so funny. I've never once thought that in my life, but now I'm gonna I'm going to think that every time that I see that.

SPEAKER_00

Fucking potatoes. Like the clogs? Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Do you remember like old school clogs from the 90s? It's literally just a wood base with a piece of cloth over the toes, and you're like, shoo! No, it fucking isn't. And they were not comfortable. Not at all. And people still wear them in the name of fashion. I just don't I don't get it.

SPEAKER_03

What was performing? No. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

There was something that was like crazy difficult. If it's like another doll type of thing, I just can't, for the life of me, remember what it was. But I had the exact same thought. Like, but it happens every year. And then who picks? Who decides? Again, how are things randomly? But those people are paid. Like that it's easy to influence. You know what's crazy? And I think about it way more than I should. What? The brand champion went from a low-end Walmart brand clothing line. To high end. To a high-end now it's no, people are still like it's like it's in like Target now. No, it's not. Yes, that is in ours. I don't go to Target, so maybe you're right. But like it's it literally went. You used to be able to get champion sweater for like$9.99 at Walmart, and now they're like$115 for a sweater. And I'm like, whoever did the marketing for champions? Like, you the man. That's another impressive as fuck. It's just so crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Or how Hollister is exactly like it was in early 2000s.

SPEAKER_02

2000, like is that different than it's been? To me, it's always looked the exact same.

SPEAKER_03

They don't.

SPEAKER_02

So in fact, we went in there the other day, and uh I took Ashton and two of his friends for his birthday. We went to the mall and we went in there just because we were like going everywhere, and they were like, What the fuck is this? Uh Ashton bought cologne and that was it. Yeah. And we left.

SPEAKER_03

It smells good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They do.

SPEAKER_03

The clothes right now are like, ugh.

SPEAKER_02

I will just be happy when we get full-length shirts again.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I'm down for a crop always and forever. I know. We are not the same.

SPEAKER_01

Do you do low rise jeans?

SPEAKER_03

No. Me either. Mid-rise. Low rise is back though. Which um let's go to our next trendy topic. What what else is trendy topic? Oh my gosh, business. That's a word. Um business? Yes. In what context? Like your term used to describe something that is exceptionally good or delicious. It's often used with food, but can apply to other contexts as well.

SPEAKER_02

That's so weird. I would have definitely assumed that meant to like your workload. Like you're really busy. I'm like bussin' because I'm like going through shit fast. Yeah. That's what I would have assumed. I was totally wrong.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so words that we're no longer saying in 2026. Oh no. YOLO. Why? No more.

SPEAKER_02

What are we supposed to say instead? Is it now FOMO? Did it go from YOLO to FOMO?

SPEAKER_03

It doesn't say what to say instead. It just says no more. Uh Finsta. What the I don't think I've literally ever heard that word. Fake Instagram. Finsta. Okay. Okay. So you can creep on people.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, like the people who make fake pros.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, fake Instagrams. I don't think. Or you can yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Or I thought you had to like verify your identity and shit. It's like a second, like you do.

SPEAKER_03

So it could be like a private account, but anyone can do it. I mean, whatever you put on there can be anything. You don't have to verify your account if you don't want to. Being verified is just like you just pay. Being verified is you pay$15 a month to have the badge there. And then you get like customer service with meta.

SPEAKER_02

Is it just Facebook that makes you use your real name? Because I remember you said nothing. But now you do.

SPEAKER_03

Because Instagram says whatever your handle is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I guess I just assumed it was the same because they're owned by the same company.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, but they're yeah, they're not. Interesting. Um, adulting? We can't use that term anymore. What?

SPEAKER_02

No, fuck off. You're not taking that from me because that is sometimes literally my answer to a question. Like people But we're old. What are you doing? Adulting? Like, you don't need to know the specifics. We all know it means unfun shit. Like, come on. I you're not taking that from me. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, you can keep adulting.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just gonna not be trendy. On fleek? On fleek. I fucking hate the word fleek. I am so here for that one to go out. I even made a post about it on Facebook years ago. This is weird. That the things that I do remember versus me not remembering 90% of my life, I very much remember being like, how come fetch isn't in, but fucking fleek is? Like, really, if we had to pick one of those to stay, I would way rather have fetch than fucking fleek.

SPEAKER_03

So weird. I hate it!

SPEAKER_02

I don't even know why I hate it so much. I watched a cooking show and this lady said it all the time, and I was like, I want to punch that lady.

SPEAKER_03

That's why. Um slay out. Hmm. I'm glad because I don't that's too much.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't that mean like you're killing it though? That totally makes sense. Like some of the slaying that comes out is confusing, but like that one actually makes sense.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think it's just overused.

SPEAKER_02

Fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_03

Um throw shade, low-key, high key, basic. Who gets to make these calls? I think it's just like a different thing.

SPEAKER_02

They're like a committee of teenagers. Yes, I think they meet every year, and it's like the same as the Webster's dictionary people. Like you have the pop culture team and then you have the like legit team. But they started adding like pop culture references into the actual dictionary, which is crazy to make it.

SPEAKER_03

6-7 is in the dictionary.

SPEAKER_02

Shut the fuck up. No, it is not. Yes, it is in the dictionary. No, nobody knows what the fuck it means.

SPEAKER_03

There's no definition with it.

SPEAKER_00

Shut the fuck up right now. You are like No, I'm not. You have to be. No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_03

If you listen to it on a podcast, you wouldn't know because you don't listen to them. Not even our own. Why is my phone ringing? That's uh that's awkward.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Someone's calling you, you're special.

SPEAKER_03

It was like an 800 scam.

SPEAKER_02

Why are you getting up right now?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, because I'm checking to see how far in we are. You could have asked me. I don't trust you. You push buttons and then we turn off.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, don't even like that one time. That one time. No, I had a hear me get up.

SPEAKER_03

You may not have seen me get up, but you heard me get up.

SPEAKER_02

You think they heard it in your voice when you started to answer? You're like, ugh.

SPEAKER_03

Let's see how the down part goes.

SPEAKER_02

Do you find down easier or up easier? Just depends. I'm sorry. It's so mean for me to like laugh at it, but I'm laughing too.

SPEAKER_03

The doctor was laughing. He's like, this is not your normal. I'm like, not at all. Just I'm like, you can just go. I'll begin, I'll leave. Don't worry. Don't wait on me. I'm like, please just go. There was one time. I'm gonna hoist myself out of this chair and limp along. So you just go.

SPEAKER_02

I think the funniest doctor experience I ever had was like, I woke up one day and my neck was like stuck to the left. I couldn't. Still a normal day for you. No, normally I can move it slightly, but like this was like straight up like ear to shoulder. I can stop the matter. And I went to fucking work because of course I did. And my boss is like, will you please leave me?

SPEAKER_03

Was this when they had segues? Probably. Anyways, I'm just imagining you talking to turtle with your head on his shoulder.

SPEAKER_00

Which is so funny that you said that because I went to the doctor and the condition was called tortocolis. And it's literally named after a turtle. Because if turtles get neck spasms, their neck gets stuck to the side.

SPEAKER_02

The doctor diagnosed me the second he walked in. I didn't have to x-rays or anything. He walks in and he's like, Oh, so you got that tortois, huh? And I was like, excuse the fuck out of me. What? And then, yeah, so that's so funny that you just said turtle. And then so I get my I had to get a bunch of muscle relaxers. I had to get a shot in my butt. Um, I know it hurt so bad. It was awful. Um, and then I went back to work and my boss was like, Why are you here? And I'm like, it's fine. I got pain meds, I'm good. She's like, How are you gonna work? And I was like, like this.

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And they literally.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, they also no longer give you any pain meds people. They're just like this is all you get.

SPEAKER_02

It's like this. It's like this. Because my neck was sucked this way. So I was like, if I just turn my whole body, then I can you know see my computer. It's fine. No, they don't. They do not give you that is also trendy to not give people pain meds, even when they're they're like, we fucked up a long time ago. They they fucked up a lot collectively. They're like we're just gonna read from anybody's places. Yeah. So you cannot get pain meds. I know. I have I'm I'm in chronic pain and I can't even get pain meds. They're like, oh, we'll shoot you full of shit, but you cannot take anything that's gonna make you feel better.

SPEAKER_03

No, the muscle relaxer's not doing anything. And like it's not relaxing any of the things that are hurting. So I don't know what you expect this to do.

SPEAKER_02

So I don't know if this is gonna come out the way that I'm envisioning it. So I'm autism. We're gonna preface it with that. I'm gonna preface it with that. I feel you know how like I'm an alcoholic? Yes. And so I have a high tolerance to alcohol. Yes. I feel like my muscles.

SPEAKER_03

I have a high pain job. High tolerance to the relaxant.

SPEAKER_02

To the relaxant because it ain't doing shit. But then I give my relaxants to other people, not you, because you're like me and you have a high tolerance, but like to other people, and they're like, Are you kidding me? You feel nothing? And I'm like, I'm fine. Like, I'm still in pain, to be honest. Like, it's nothing. But other people it's actually kind of upsetting when I let other people have one and they're all flying high like a kite. I'm like, how is that fucking fair? It's not. I take three times the amount I gave you.

SPEAKER_03

So there are people like us that have um their body metabolizes substances really, really quickly.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it's actually a real thing. Like I joke about it, but it's real. Like when I go to the dentist, um, both me and Deegan, we will burn through the Novocaine before they're finished. So they have to stop and give us more numbing stuff.

SPEAKER_03

And it's we should probably tell them this whenever you go to surgery, like, so you're not like awake during surgery. I can just imagine you waking up and being like, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02

That would be crazy. Or you'd be like, Hi, I'm awake. I don't know if I would do that. I think I would probably just scream. I would like open my eyes and not remember where I was, and then like think that I'm like in a dream where I've been abducted by like a serial killer and like they're harvesting.

SPEAKER_03

You would probably lay there so you didn't disrupt their processes. Honestly, that's true.

SPEAKER_02

I would probably be too afraid that I would be bothering them with my things.

SPEAKER_03

I should be like, I'm too much. So I'm sorry, I'm doing this wrong. I'm I do a lot of things wrong. It's my body falls. That would be what it is. You're like, excuse me, sir. I don't think anesthesia is working.

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SPEAKER_02

Even when I did the ketamine. And there were times where I'd push the button and they'd come in, and I'd be like, You guys, I think I need more. And they're like, You're functioning. And I'm like, I'm still in the chair. And they're like, oh god. And I'm like, I just burned through it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I promise it's not my fault. Yeah. I have to also have a very, very, very high level of laughing gas. And it's literally like the only time I actually like feel the effects of it is there was one time where um my sister wasn't there. She wasn't working on me. So they gave me the laughing gas, and then like the doctor got busy, and so nobody was in the room doing anything, talking to me, or anything. That is the only time that I like felt it, and then I was like, oh wow. But the second someone comes in and starts talking to me because my anxiety just like flips on like a fucking switch, then I all it's there is to make it so that I don't like cry or hurt someone. Or have a panic attack because I have I have had a full-fledged panic attack in the dental office.

SPEAKER_03

This is my least favorite activity.

SPEAKER_02

I only go because my sister works there and she puts me on the schedule. I know she makes me go.

SPEAKER_03

I should go and visit Jen. You should. I should. Yeah. Alright, well on oh, do we have some questions? Do we have questions? I love the questions. We are almost out of time, but we have a we have time for a question or two. We haven't done them forever. We always have time for questions. Did you pre-pick it or did you just have a list? I sent them to myself. But I also sent them that we are not the same, so.

SPEAKER_02

So in theory, I have them, is what you're saying?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, three. Is it something that's like? Here's the choppel ganger. Didn't I send that to you too? What is a choppel ganger? People are getting called.

SPEAKER_02

If you sent it to me on Instagram, for some reason I no longer get notifications on Instagram and I don't know how to fix it.

SPEAKER_03

Just go. Just know there's gonna be flooded full of reels.

SPEAKER_02

I don't ever think about Instagram because I don't get the notifications. I only think about it when I'm posting because I'm like.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just gonna text you, go to Instagram. That'll be your notification.

SPEAKER_02

Or maybe you can fix it because I cannot figure out so many funny things.

SPEAKER_03

We need to recreate this one. We need to recreate that one. Because that's us. Can I you know what popped up the other day on my memories? Oh god, what? Me and Rollup sitting on, I believe it was um Christmas trees. Like what? Porch? No, it was inside because it was cold outside. It was like wintertime, right? Because it was like a couple of things.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I just know there wasn't a lot of options inside.

SPEAKER_03

And it well, it was his mantle place, a fireplace mantle thing. There was no actual scene. And we're just like, I'm like, what the fuck is this from? What is this? And then remember I sent you that I was like, I was like, we're only gonna have one drink, and then me at 3 a.m. at some random place. And I'm like, girl, how was this us?

SPEAKER_02

It's so crazy to think about the life that I used to live in comparison to the life that I live now.

SPEAKER_03

We thought that was tame.

SPEAKER_02

I know. Honestly, I didn't think we were that bad.

SPEAKER_03

We really weren't, but now to think back about it, and I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

We were just really lucky. It's not that we weren't that bad. We just got really fucking lucky because we never got in trouble.

SPEAKER_03

I think people just felt bad for me. I'm thinking, oh, that's that poor widow that lost her husband. Let her be a hot ass mess. Just let her do that.

SPEAKER_02

And then people left me alone because they're like, she has to deal with her.

SPEAKER_03

She takes care of her. No, they're probably like, that's her new husband. So be nice. So he told everybody. I definitely said that. Yeah. I used you as my crutch. I'm like, I'm very aware of you. I was like, she'll protect me. It's fine. Literally, I'd go and blind. I'm like, we're good. She's driving me.

SPEAKER_02

And be like, you need to come get me. Like, why did you go without me? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, I don't know. It sounded like a good idea, and it is now not.

SPEAKER_02

It took too long.

SPEAKER_03

I think this is now getting to be a dangerous situation, and I gotta go. I would that was when I would just Irish exit wherever I was at.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you just leave and not say bye. Is that trendy? It's an Irish goodbye trendy.

SPEAKER_03

I literally would just be like, she gone. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I know. People would like message later and be like, is Heather with you? I'm like, yeah, why? They'd be like, okay, she just bounced. Like nobody knew that she left or when she left or who she left.

SPEAKER_03

She's either in a bed asleep somewhere. It's like, did she find a bed? She's either asleep or she's gone. Or a couch. A couch. Anywhere I could sleep as well.

SPEAKER_00

Anywhere where you could lay down.

SPEAKER_03

You're good at sleep. I know. Uh the boyfriend's like, it's amazing how you can go to sleep and like I will be awake. I'm like, I'm never gonna go to sleep, and then like five seconds later, I'm like, I don't understand. Out. It's like a crazy superpower. But if you ask me to nap, hell no. I'm the world's worst fucking napper.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I will wake up. Either I just don't because I'm so afraid I'm gonna actually get to a sleep. So it's like this weird, I just think I should be doing all these other things. Or I end up falling asleep and wake up in another fucking century. And then yeah, the day is shot.

SPEAKER_02

That's so weird. If I nap, it's like my body knows that it's a nap, and so I only sleep for like 45 minutes to an hour and a half. Must be nice.

SPEAKER_03

All or nothing over here. I'm like fucking zoned out.

SPEAKER_02

If I would just allow myself to sleep normal, I wouldn't need to nap. But I sit there in bed, tired as fuck, and just be like, don't let yourself fall asleep. And I don't know why I do it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, these are all A, B, or C or D questions.

SPEAKER_02

So Okay, multiple choice. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

When someone says my name, what's the first word that comes to mind? A, chaos. B, loyal, C, loud, D, smart. C, loud. Fine. I thought you would say something else, but I also agree. It's been like this since I was a child.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, you said first word, so that's fair.

SPEAKER_03

I know that's fair. Second word.

SPEAKER_02

The second one, smart. Oh. You are really smart. Thank you. You have your moments for sure, and you should not write a college paper.

SPEAKER_03

No. No, I have my strengths.

SPEAKER_02

But you have business sense for sure. And like you fucking you got your shit together. Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate the voice. You're not smart when it comes to men. Oh my god. I appreciate the vote of confidence. That was like that was my phone. That was creepy. It was a man's voice. Don't know where it came from. It was perfect timing. That was weird.

SPEAKER_03

Were you on the Instagram?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_03

That was it.

SPEAKER_02

I wasn't on anything, which makes it creepier.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so when someone says your name, I would say. I'd say smart. First? That would be the first one.

SPEAKER_02

I also thought you were gonna pick loud, because that would have also been. No, then I would say loyal. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's good. Yeah. Because you are like super loyal friend. And except that one time that you just didn't return any of my phone calls or anything. You deserved it. That's fine. That's fine. There was just that one time. Okay, next question. Um If you had to rename me based on what mood I'm usually in, what would you call me? A Grumpy Cat. B Sunshine. C, Hurricane, D. Zen Zone.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. We're gonna leave the cat out of this. Inside joke.

SPEAKER_02

Um my cheeks hurt. I'm struggling because I really want to pick two. Do it. Okay, so the two that I would pick are sunshine and hurricane. That's perfect because you are literally a combination of the two at the same time. Like a sunny hurricane. You are a hurricane in a sunshine. That is exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

You like look at it and you're like, oh my god, it looks like such a good, beautiful, calm day.

SPEAKER_00

And then you go outside and you're like, it's a little strong out here. It's a little, it's a little more than I was anticipating in the moment. And I did not dress accordingly for this.

SPEAKER_03

All right, the tracks, that track looks good. Um, I would call, I'm definitely bringing the cat into it. That's not fair. Grumpy cat meets I would also say hurricane. Yeah, that's fair. I'm a grumpy cat in a hurricane.

SPEAKER_04

In a hurricane.

SPEAKER_03

In my hurricane.

SPEAKER_00

Expressive because.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, sometimes, let's be real. I pretty much just travel from hurricane to hurricane and then I'm upset about it. And I'm always like, how the fuck did I get here? And I did it to myself. Like I willingly traveled to that hurricane, and yet I'm still always shocked that I'm there.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, I am dead.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Especially if you think about the fact that like cats don't like to be Dutched and like aren't very affectionate or good with social papers or any of the things.

SPEAKER_00

Stop it right fucking now. I'm gonna lose my shit. Kit Kat.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna buy you a Kit Kat every day.

SPEAKER_03

Saw me at my absolute happiest. What would I be doing? Eating food, sleeping in, manic dancing, spending money.

SPEAKER_02

Ooh, that one's hard. I'm gonna go with spending money.

SPEAKER_03

Ding ding ding. That would be it. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

That, yes. I'm gonna say eating food for you. Oh my god. I was just talking to California. We were talking about how we both have like let ourselves go and like need to get our shit together a little bit before it gets too far gone. And then he's all like, I'm gonna try to like get my eating, and I'm like, I can't.

SPEAKER_00

You're like, I'm gonna bake it. I wanna eat it all.

SPEAKER_02

Like I am the little food goblin. Fucking goblin. I also goblin and a food goblin. Yes. You do love food, but you have discipline.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. I don't all or nothing.

SPEAKER_02

I I eat all or nothing.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm like a good in-between mix. I'm yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You appreciate food when you're allowed to eat food, but you will eat structured when you're supposed to be structured, and I will eat what tastes good.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. And like I love finding new places, eating, yeah, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, trying out new food is like the best thing ever. And then getting to cook new food is really exciting for me. I love cooking. You just can't tell that while I'm cooking because it looks like I fucking hate cooking. But I really love it.

SPEAKER_03

I think that's it.

SPEAKER_02

That's all the questions? Well, we're probably a that's why, yeah. We are.

SPEAKER_03

So there'll be more questions. Those ones were not eighty. So we learned trendy, but that was hilarious. I'm not trendy. We learned that my back is broken. And that I'm a grumpy cat in your hurricane. I'm a sunny hurricane. You want to be a good one. Hurricane, a grumpy cat. Who dare cut? Why did it have to be a cat? I don't know, but I'm dead. Alright, um, till next week, best of you. Till next time, guys. Bye.