Two Besties Walk Into A Podcast And Forget The Agenda

What happens when you hit record with a plan and end up somewhere more honest? We tumble from sound-check chaos into a raw conversation about identity, memory, and the weird science of hating your own recorded voice. That small cringe opens a bigger door: how we think we sound versus how the world hears us, and how that gap mirrors the distance between who we were and who we’re becoming.

Our phones turn into time machines as we scroll old videos—ice packs under club dresses, drunk bravery, and the friendships that kept us upright when sleep and sense didn’t. The nostalgia is funny until it isn’t, because adulthood has its own gravity: five jobs, kids’ competitions, chronic back updates, compression socks, and careful budgets. One of us treats herself like a business—tracking progress, protecting her credit score, building tiny systems to make the day work. It’s not glamorous, but it’s realistic, and sometimes realism is the most compassionate path forward.

Then the episode swerves into a moral knot that won’t let go: a viral Brazilian story where a married couple learns they’re siblings after 20 years and a child. We wrestle with the ethics and the human part—stay or split, redefine intimacy, seek genetic counseling, shield the next generation from risk. From there, a DNA test mix-up sparks six weeks of panic about who’s Dad—until a simple account setting restores reality and our sense of humor. Along the way, we compare coping styles (catastrophize vs confront), roast bloated self-help books, and design a saner book club with flexible attendance, genre variety, and just enough deadlines to keep us honest. We even plot a ghost-hunting birthday and negotiate for homemade bread, because accountability tastes better warm.

If you’ve ever cringed at your own voice, carried a past self like a souvenir, or needed permission to build life in practical, unsexy steps, this conversation is your mirror. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves messy honesty, and leave a review with the one memory you’d keep exactly as it is.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Hello everyone and welcome back. So we are not the same. Although we are. I know. The older we get. I know.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

We started this when we were.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

We did. This started in 2021.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

2020.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

2021, though, was our first official pod. Was it in 2020?

SPEAKER_03 0:57

It was now December. Well, it was November to December. Because we had our fallout in December.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Yes, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

2020.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Do I not have the are these my headphones? We didn't do a sound check. We're like, what's the other one? No, we just dove in today. Am I turning me up? There we go. I just turned myself up. I can hear it. Turn up. We used to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

I know it was a different time then.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

It was.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

I know. I think all the I spend way too much time like focusing on like how different my life is now from like it's been and how many like almost like different fucking lives I feel like I've lived in this one lifetime because there's so many versions, but that's what you're saying. There's so many versions. You don't want to stay stagnant, right? Correct. Correct. Progress was important to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Back on the raspy voice thing here. I can hear it a lot. You guys didn't get to hear about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

We were talking about because you guys, she calls me out for not listening to the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

She's like, we're talking. She's like, I've been reading audiobooks, blah blah blah. And I'm like, I've been really into podcasts. And she's like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't like them. And I'm like, it's really odd because you host one.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

Okay, but also like I only started listening to audiobooks like literally this year.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

So now the transition is gonna be podcasts.

Tech Gremlins And Voice Anxiety

SPEAKER_03 2:19

We might get there. We might get there. The first audiobook that I listened to was in December. It's like episodic McCurdy. I'm glad my mom died. And of course that made me want to listen. Because, like, girls say. So, yes, you can thank Jeanette McCurdy because her mom's death might get me to listen to our own podcast at some point.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

I love how we like made that a roundabout, but it wouldn't get back around.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

Yes, but anyway, the whole thing is that. So, like I hate the sound of my own voice. And what I hear in my head is not what I hear when like I hear a recording of my voice.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

That is standard across the board. I don't think anybody actually hears themselves the way that they come out.

SPEAKER_03 3:07

Um I think it's weird how what you hear individual like not everybody hears their own voice the same. You know what I mean? I wonder if this is like a phenomenon or something.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

Because like, so when I hear my voice in my head when I'm speaking, my voice is low to me.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

And mine is okay, but mine is too. I feel like mine is low and raspy and always has been.

SPEAKER_03 3:28

But I only know your voice the way I hear it. And yes, I do think your voice is low and raspy, but in a sexy fucking way. It's like sultry.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Like I smoke a pack of cigarettes sultry.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Like, okay, I'm not a smoker, by the way, nor have I been a smoker.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

I have, and this is still what I sound like. It's awful. I'm sorry to anyone who's listening. No, I guess because I heard a record, I heard a recording and it's like high-pitched. Only one time. I sound like a fucking mouse. You laughed. Like I sound like a doll. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Maybe that was before we had the magic mastering.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

It just magically makes me. It makes my voice sound better. It does.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

It takes the high and the low out and just makes it more even.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

It's I don't like it. No, but you you remind me of Kathleen Turner.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Which I have no idea who that is.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

She doesn't know who that is. So I'm bringing up a video just because I want her to hear. It doesn't matter the words. Like, I just this is a random video. So I'm not oh, it's connected to my car. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Your car's outside playing.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Yeah, yeah. It's fine. Okay. Sorry, I'm weird. That see, that's stemming. That's not a bit. I didn't know that one. I didn't even have to ask.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

There's no one more expert than you.

SPEAKER_04 4:48

Oh, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

I'm like, that's what I sound like to you?

SPEAKER_03 4:51

I am. No, she sounded like a much offended. No, no, no, no, no, no. That was bad. That's because she's old now. I need to find one when she was young. That's what I'm gonna sound like when I'm old.

SPEAKER_04 5:04

Oh my god, that's so funny. That's rude.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

No stop. I got come on. This is late night, 1998. Conan O'Brien. I love Conan O'Brien. I used to. I actually haven't watched him in years, but I used to stay up and watch Conan O'Brien all the time. Okay. Skip to where she's talking. That's a great thing I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

That's a good uh that's a real good gig to get. I would never Okay, Conan.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

No, we don't care what you have to say. No! I suck at this. We're not gonna get her voice suit. Why did we have me try to do this?

SPEAKER_01 5:45

What are we looking for?

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Uh Kathleen Turner's voice, like when she was younger. Because now she sounds like death.

SPEAKER_04 5:55

Kathleen Turner has delivered a steady stream of ribbons.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Come on. I want people to Okay. Honestly, Megan, what's come over you?

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Used to be downright finicky.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

An accidental tourist. Turner's who she is.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Yes. I know who she is.

SPEAKER_03 6:10

She has such a distinct, like recognizable voice. And it's deep and it's raspy and it's fucking sexy as hell.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

Okay. So I did. Point of reference. I sound like a broken Barbie.

Raspy, Sultry, Or Mouse: Who Am I

SPEAKER_01 6:23

I like Barbie. I know you do. Um, so I like Chad GPT. Like, is it common that people like is it normal that people hate their voice? Oh, yeah. It is very common for people to feel uncomfortable with the way their voice sounds in recordings. Um, because usually hear our own voice through vib we oh uh we can only hear our own voice through vibrations in our skull, not like outwardly. Yeah so it's gonna hear sound different to us.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

And does it always sound deeper? Do you feel like what you hear is makes it sound deeper and richer?

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Oh, see that's so hearing it through your own skull makes it deeper and richer.

SPEAKER_03 7:02

So everybody thinks their voice is higher when they're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

However, in recordings, we hear our voice as others do, obviously. Yes, that was dumb. This is not what I was asking. Um That is interesting, but it leads to them sounding very differently internally versus that's gotta be weird for people who like sing.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

You know what I mean? Because like I mean, I sing, not to other people, but like in Sing for us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sing for us. You're not gonna hear this anyways. I get so embarrassed when people hear me sing. Like, if you here's the thing I sing in my car and I sing in the shower. If you get into either of those locations, that is your choice. Therefore, like you have to put up with my singing because that's my safe place.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

You realize this podcast is portable.

SPEAKER_03 7:52

Do a car single, we can make that happen. No one wants to hear me sing.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

We do. I want to push one of these buttons because I feel like it's gonna have a good sound for us and I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

Don't we have no don't push random buttons that we recorded five almost over five years ago?

SPEAKER_01 8:09

I have like such an urge to push buttons right now.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

I saw them all lit up, and my internal thought process was like. I wonder what we recorded or what we saved that we're like, we're gonna use this all the time.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

We're gonna make it a button.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

I'm scared. We have four options. I think one is clapping. Probably. I think that was a booze with a boo would be fun.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

To boo at ourselves?

unknown 8:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Well, honestly, that would be fun because sometimes you say things and my internal reaction is boo.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Same, same. That's fair. That's totally fair.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

But in a loving way.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

Right. It's like it's mean girls, like boo, you whore. Love you bye. Yes. Yes. I get it. Like when we are trying to schedule literally fucking anything, my reaction is boo. Because it's it's so hard to align our schedules.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

And when the kids are in cheer camp. Cheer cheer camp. When they're in cheer comp season.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

Yes. Yeah. Well, you they have cheer season, and then you have comp season, and I work five jobs, and it's just hard to find fucking time. And I work a lot too. Yeah, because you also because you do the tanning stuff or the spray tanning stuff, and you do the personal workouts. Training. Yep. Yes. A lot of shit.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

And we're podcasting, and we still haven't really missed um.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

We have done so good at like making shit work.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

And you guys really do listen on Monday, because even though we did not release a new episode.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Did somebody say some shit? No. We have it. We are late. We are late this week.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Used to Mondays, and so I think a bunch of people went back and listened to old episodes because like a bunch of older ones are popped back up as me. I think that's fun though. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Especially because we do refer back to them quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Yes. Yeah. We will today too. I think I'm gonna be talking about that one time in Seattle, that incident.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Yeah. Well, because okay, so here's part of it, right? Like, I only remember so many things.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

Right. So we keep retelling the same stories over and over.

SPEAKER_03 10:21

And then like somebody will randomly say something and it'll make me like. That's why we need Jen in her nerds. Right. The info is in there. It's just not like readily available, right? Like it's like going to a library that has no organizational system.

Buttons, Boo Sounds, And Scheduling

SPEAKER_01 10:38

What if you did a let me show you on Snapchat some memories? I bet you that would be a fun jog down memory lane.

SPEAKER_03 10:45

You know what? Sometimes you'll send me like old photos of us, and I'm all like, when in the fuck was that taken? But then some of them, I'll see it and then I'll be like, oh my god, that was when we were doing this and hanging out with this person. Because like, while me and you have hung out consistently, like the outside parties has have changed quite a bit over time. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Okay. I've gone back to like November. Of what? 2020, and look what popped up. Googly googly. Oh my god, that was so perfect that time. Okay. We're just taking a trip down memory lane.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

It's such a fun video. I mean, I'm like proud of it and embarrassed by it.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

Yours stayed on so well. I was so impressed.

SPEAKER_03 11:37

I didn't have spray tan on.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

No, mine blew off. Like literally.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

You guys have no idea. It was so funny. I literally watched, watched one just literally fly off.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

We're doing it right now. We're watching right now.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

We're like, Oh my god, we sound. We were really drunk. I should not have left the sound on for that one.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

I feel like that. Well, no, because when you posted, you covered it.

SPEAKER_04 12:12

Oh, we shouldn't. See that it's not gonna stick.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

That one fell off of my boob.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

You can hear us having the like. God damn it.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

That was probably the most difficult video that we filmed out of the five videos that we have successfully filmed in the past five years.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

I am so impressed with how you got those eyeballs going around in circles.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

That was a skill. Man, if I had daddy issues, I could have been a great stripper. But no, I have mommy issues.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

So what does that give you? Just trauma?

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Yeah. And a good credit score. Because my uh, you know, path to perfectionism. That's the one thing I'm like, look what I can prove. I have great credit.

SPEAKER_02 13:02

I have a great credit. Do you want to tell everyone your credit score? It's an 822.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

That's like basically as high as you can get.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

850 is as high as you can get. So like, I know I'm so proud of it. Like, the my whole world is crashing, but like my credit score. It's literally gotten me through sometimes, like when I'm in a bad headspace.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

You're always inside.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yeah. It's weird, the things that carry me.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

We're not the same.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

But that's okay. That's because I'm like a data person. Like I love numbers and statistics and like fixing things. Like I literally treat myself like I'm a business. That's how I find what is this one?

SPEAKER_01 13:55

I don't know. I don't know what we're doing. I don't want I don't know if I want to turn it on. It's just I'm like, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

I don't know. We thought we were doing something and we fucking were not. Like I'm not even like actually dancing. Like I'm just like. I'm just like, I'm here because I have to be. That was a very phoned-in performance of nothing.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Oh, I think we were like, we were getting ready to record. We were recording.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

You were probably making me do something. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Okay. I'm dying. I am like laughing really hard.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Um oh look. This is this is just an episode of randomness.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Oh, I'm like you have everything. Oh my god. This is that picture that pulled up from Christmas tree's house with roll up and all the blood. I'm like, why is it what am I doing?

SPEAKER_03 14:51

You're counting money, honey, in front of a fireplace. Why is this a photo in your phone?

SPEAKER_01 14:59

I don't know. It was, you know who sent it to me? I think it was uh roll up that sent it to me. I'm like, what were we doing? What was I doing last night? Where were we? Babe.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Babe. I want you to think about it for just like a second. We don't have to say it out loud, but we both know why you were you were there too. I was not. Not that time. I was not present. Absolutely not. We we leave the door open. There's no way if I was present that you guys would be counting the money. Let's be fucking real. I wouldn't no I don't trust anybody with anything ever. Oh it wouldn't even be my money and then be like, no, let me do it.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Like, no.

SPEAKER_03 15:44

No, I don't trust you to count your own money.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Like, nope.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

That's how deep-rooted my trust issues are, you guys. Like, I don't trust you. Let me do your bills because I don't believe that you have the ability. But literally. Oh, look at it.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

That's like when we were in the outside inside. It was the outside inside.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

That was the I still can't believe that that was like a real time in society. Like, you can't be inside unless inside is outside.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Oh, this is the one time I like recorded without you with David, and I would call them the butthole connoisseur.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Oh, yeah, I was not. I was not present.

Snapchat Memories And Inside Jokes

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Okay, so I made the mistake of being really public about like whatever I was into many years ago. And so people will send you, they'll be like, oh, I know you like this. What were you into? Did I miss this? I don't know. It just depends.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

How much did I want to know?

SPEAKER_00 16:50

I think I said at some point that Q buttholes were the new news.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

So people just started sending him photos of their butthole.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

That's why I said you're not the butthole connoisseur. I mean, right now, right? If people are sending you their buttholes to be like.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

How long has it been since someone sent you a dick pic?

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Oh, so long. I couldn't tell you. It's been forever. I don't know if I've actually ever had an unsolicited dick pic.

SPEAKER_02 17:19

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 17:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

I just usually like shocks the hell out of me.

SPEAKER_01 17:24

Maybe in my other folders or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

I definitely have. Not anytime recently, though. Like, not I'm not complaining. I feel like my tone isn't expressing my emotion correctly.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

No, I feel like we carry ourselves different. I don't. I get like the hey, hi, like all the like messages, like message weird people.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

I also feel like maybe we as a society have shamed it enough that like people don't default to that anymore, which is great. But I'm sure age has something to do with it. You know, we're older, we're more mature, we don't. I try really hard not to talk to young people. You try to not talk to young people. Not in a romantic way for sure. Like I don't want to date a young buck.

SPEAKER_01 18:13

No.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

I'm not a cougar at all. No, thank you. Like I want to definitely be older than me. That instantly gives you cra California's younger than me, and that is like the only issue that I have. How much? Um, like I think I graduated two years before him. Okay, well, two is not bad. It makes me feel yucky.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

I hardly makes me feel gross. But then I'm look then I think about the people that like date way younger, and I'm like, how do you do it? But then I went out with like that 55-year-old, like, no problem. Like, it's so weird how in my brain it is totally okay for me to date a way older dude, but I can't date a slightly younger man.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Okay. I don't know why I this is this is a mountain I will die on. I fully agree. Really? Yes. I don't know why one time I ever dated someone younger. Look how that fucking turned out.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Yeah. Johnny Bravo.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

Yeah. I knew better.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

I knew better. I knew better about it.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

The winky guy. He was younger. So weird.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Yeah. Do you think that he just also couldn't hear? And so he was just like, couldn't understand what you were saying? No. Like, why did everything be such a mystery?

SPEAKER_03 19:33

He's like No, I just think he was a crazy fucking dude. Like, also on the date, he like we were drinking. Like I was hella fucking drunk. And he was driving, and he should not have been driving. You should not have been in the car with him. He got I know, but that's neither here nor there. He got pulled the fuck over, and I for sure thought like he's fucking toasted, right? And then he yells at the fucking cop when the cop gets to his window because the cop was like like I don't know, driving somewhat erratically, kind of like, I don't know. I don't remember exactly because I was wasted. I was absolutely wasted. So he's yelling at the copy. He's yelling at the cop, and he's all like, you are making it unsafe. Like you are potentially gonna cause us to wreck based off of your behavior. And I was like, You are not talking to a cop like this right now. Like you have been drinking, sir. Like you are gonna go to jail for sure.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

You're like, I've been to enough wet labs. Have you been to a wet lab by then?

SPEAKER_03 20:32

Had we been to one?

SPEAKER_01 20:34

We we went to one when we were drinking.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

I know, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

We left to keep drinking.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Listen, the fact that I remember things at all is impressive, and we gotta give me credit for that. But like trying to figure out in what order things happened. Sorry. No fun. My bad. My bad. I don't know. Yes, okay. Anyways. But those both both those things did indeed happen. Yes. I just don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

So you may well know how this is going down, and you're like, I already know you're fucked.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

Yeah, and like not only did he not even get asked to get out of the vehicle to like he didn't get a ticket or anything. The dude just like let us go. And I was like, what? Are you fucking kidding me right now? And that's when he asked me to be his girlfriend, and I said, duh, because you just got out of that. And then I regretted it like really quickly, like as soon as I was sober. And it's still, I mean, we dated for four weeks total because I tried to break up with him again. Remember at two weeks, and he told me it was my depression talking. And I was like, that's fair. And then I gave him two more weeks. I uh it is the hardest thing I've ever done is breaking up with people.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Your depression against you to get you.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

We always use my shit against me. Like it's like, did you have a meeting? Because you all fucking do it.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

They're like, by the way, when she tries to leave you, go with this, it works every time.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

It takes me a little bit. No, Lemon, you were really good at average. I was so proud. That still took me four tries.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Yes. He also didn't also say that there was something that you were just going through some shit.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Um, so like I tried to break up with him the night that all that shit happened, and then I tried to break up with him the next morning, and then I realized that I needed rice to get a me. Yes. And then we were done, and then I've got to be a good thing. And then I called you, and then we've we came up with a game plan, and it was like, I just gotta make it like a week and a half.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

And he got rid of all your stuff, got rid of his dogs.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

I made sure he had all of his belongings back, I made sure I got all my belongings back, and then I broke up with him again in writing and over the phone. So it took four times, but I did it! You did it so a week and a half, that's literally the shortest amount of time it's ever taken me.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

You broke up, so going back to the depression is the reason you're breaking up with me, guy. Yeah, we're so winky. Oh my god. Winky yells at the police officer.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

Yes. It was crazy. I don't even remember why I told that story in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

I don't either, but I love it. Welcome to the ADHD rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_01 23:20

I don't know. Well, we were gonna talk about crash-outs.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

That's supposed to be like an actual topic, though. We're too deep now. We are too deep. We till next week.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Plot twist. We're gonna record another episode after this. Um we are um keeping we did have a we did have like a read.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

Instead of going under Okay, go go.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Um sorry. Do you want to hear something not not great? Uh-oh, what? I heard something today.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Am I gonna get in a fight? No. Okay. Um I gonna be sad?

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yeah, so middle-aged is now 38 and a half instead of 50, which was once considered. Because the life expectancy is like 78.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

I thought it went up.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

No.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Life expectancy. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Yes, but they used to say middle age or like middle-aged is 50, and now it's 38 and a half.

Credit Scores, Perfectionism, And Data

SPEAKER_03 24:22

It's yeah, it is 78.39 years. That's kind of awesome because I don't want to live to be past 80. I mean my sister have a thelm and Louise pack. If I turn 80, that we're gonna down a bunch of pills and then drive off a cliff. You will not. You'll buy it's not gonna matter. I'm gonna die way before then. I mean, if the average is 78, look at me. There is no way I'm making it to the end. Like, my body barely works now.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Oh, yeah. Update on my back, it's getting better slightly. Finally, I mean it's like not debilitating, and I can move around. I like squatted down without any like to grab something, and I was like, look.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

When is the last time you did you like completely stop working now?

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Yeah, I haven't. It's been like a week and a half. Which for you is like crazy. But I want to make sure that it's like so No, I think it's good. I think either I did do shoulders today, but that was like upper body stuff. Yeah, that's not a big thing. And there was like bracing, but I couldn't even do shoulders two weeks ago. I couldn't even stand, I couldn't even hold weight in my hand. That's how bad it hurt. I could not bend down unassisted. I could not get up without like Oh, I know. I watched you. Oh my god. Watch me now. Watch me now. Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Okay, you gotta stop doing references because then all you're kicking only. Ooh. Did you see how fast I went? Yeah, you did a fancy turn and you like did a slide onto the bed. Look at that, you sexy things. See? So fast.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

With moves like that and a voice like that. Oh my gosh. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

If only I liked taco.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

I told you we can just get married for tax purposes. I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

The answer is still no. Listen. I love you so much. I could not live with you.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Oh, yeah, we're planning a little vacation together.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

Yes, for your birthday.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:17

We have to figure out what we're gonna do. And now I just found out I'm gonna actually get a fucking tax return for the first time in years. I'm so excited. I'm not gonna be all stressed out about paying to go and do something with you. I can actually afford to go.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

I am also excited. Have you decided what you want to do?

SPEAKER_01 26:38

No.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

You gotta figure that out.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:42

I know what I want to do for my birthday. What? I want to go ghost hunting.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

That would be fun. Yes. There is a place um in I can't remember where now, in Washington. There's like St. Ignatius Hospital or something. Like we looked it up. There, like they have ghost adventures. Okay, I'm down. And I really want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

I'm so down.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

Yay. Okay. So far, it's me and the boys. So me, the boys.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

No, I'm down. I'm down. Um, so we were going through and looking at all the things like that we did.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

The random things, yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Yes. Um, the random pictures.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Did you forget that you were doing that? Is that what sparks the conversation? Yes, that's what it was. That's what it was. See, you give me crap about my memory, but like yours isn't good all the time either.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

It is not.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

It is better than mine, but that is because you have photos of fucking everything. I really do. I used to be really good about taking photos, and I'm just not anymore. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Such a very you weren't in this one, but such a random New Year's.

SPEAKER_03 27:49

What the fuck? That doesn't even look like you.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Oh, that was like right after my tummy talk.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

I was like still very not look like you.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Why? Because I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

I've actually used to be like done.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

No, something is.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I have no muscles in those. I know that's weird. Is it the people next to me?

SPEAKER_03 28:09

Look how little your fucking legs are. I know. I'm like, look how little. Literally, like that combined is what one leg looks like now. I know, right? I had like Who's the fro? I don't remember that person. Is this after I was after I bounced? Yes.

unknown 28:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

And then also, who else? Oh, no.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

This is during the breakup.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

Alexis, of course.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

You don't look like you in that photo either. What is going on? What is happening? What happened on this day? I just every photo from this. You don't look like you. It's freaking me out, to be honest. Why? Why is it freaking me out? Or why the fuck do you not look like you? I don't look like me? No.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Why the fuck? Because I just had surgery. And so I had ice packs and I wasn't supposed to be doing anything.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Jesus Christ. See what happens when you don't have me around?

SPEAKER_01 29:13

I'm like, it's fine. It's the first time I gotten out of the house since the 18th.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

And it was so you guys should just show me a video. She was all dressed up, like fucking club fucking ready. And she lifts her dress and she has a fucking ice pack on her fucking stomach.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

I was relaxing at that point.

Random Photos, Ice Packs, And Club Nights

SPEAKER_03 29:33

You're insane. You're insane. I can't say too much. I mean, I used to fucking break my body all the time and then just keep going. Just pretend I didn't. Yes. That's fine. Um after I got my implants the first time, me and Jen were at the bar like less than a week later. I was like, this is fine. And then the bitch had a weird freak out moment and thought that we were gonna get kidnapped, and she made me run to the car in heels with brand new tits. And I'm like, Jen, I cannot run. Like I cannot stress to you enough how much I cannot run.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Like, I cannot.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

But she was full gone. Like she just lost it at that point. She definitely thought we were going to be taken.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

All of our pictures. Remember when we took those pictures?

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Oh, the podcast photos. Yes. Yes. There's a little video. Oh my goodness. Ooh, I was chunky monkey. I'm a chunky monkey now. What am I saying? That was not a flattering outfit. I loved it. I still have it.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

We were look adorable. Remember?

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Look at you. We had so much fun. God, my hair was so perfect, and then we got drunk and ruined it. When? We went to that one bitch's house who remembered who cut my hair. Oh, did we put it? The one who got super wasted and cut my hair like a fucking weed whacker and then crashed her car after she left work. Yeah, for some reason, after she did that, we thought it'd be a great idea to get wasted and go to her house and dye it purple and it ruins that beautiful, perfect blonde that my sister spent so long getting. Yeah, my sister is really mad. And I didn't remember. So I just woke up the next day and looked in the mirror and was like, What the fuck did I do?

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Oh my gosh, do you want to see something really funny?

SPEAKER_03 31:34

See, I don't have moments like that now because I'm all sober and boring.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

This is the reason why we all stop drinking. She's calling into work saying she can't come into work.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Who? Not me.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

No. No.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Is that?

unknown 31:48

No.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

But that's what you told me to do.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

I should probably not share this to everyone. Okay. Drinking out of the vodka.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

This is like straight out of the bottle.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Yes, this is early morning.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Times were different.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

We could not gone to bed yet. Actually, I think I took a nap. Pretty sure I did.

SPEAKER_03 32:17

We went so hard for no reason.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Yes, we did, because Luke died and I was like all hell broke loose.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

I was just spiraling.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

We were along for the spiral. Okay, this leads us directly into.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

You had a lot of stuff going on. I always do. It just doesn't fucking stop. No, I mean you were being stalked and then manipulated and then yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

I'm trying to think. Multiple secret children.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Yeah, because that was after that was after everything went down with um Fat Roger.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

But very recently. Yeah. You were still like in the thick of it.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Because me and him, Halloween was what? Seven years. Seven years since we had officially broken up, but he wouldn't leave me alone for a year.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

So look at all of us. Oh god. Look at all of us. That's so funny. We should post some of these. I would have never like That doesn't look like me. You want to know why? Because I have so much Botox in my face. It didn't work.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

I think that's why in that other one, you do not look like you look more like you in this one than you did those other ones, but you did not fucking like there was something going on. You did not look like you. I had no idea that I had a single photo taken with that man right there.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

Yes. But there's actually several.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

There's a lot of things. We were fucked up all the time.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Kind of.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

It was like every other day for me because I had to work every other day. For three months, I took off every other day at work so that I could take care of you. And by take care of you, I meant get fucked up with you. And make sure that you ended up sleeping in a location that I knew of.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Do you remember this? This is taking it way back. Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

Before shit went bad.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

You'll come in eventually in the background.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Yes, I remember.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

We can post it. You got mad at me because I wouldn't get on stage with you.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

I'm like, fine, I'll do it myself.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

I don't like being the center of attention. I hate it.

SPEAKER_01 34:38

Okay, so I'll stop scrolling through things and reminding of everybody that can't see it. So that's a good idea. Sorry, guys. We suck. Um, anyways, it was us in our costumes going out.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

It was the day of can I think say it right? Dia dea Les Mortes or whatever the fuck.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

The day of the dead shit. We're sugar skulls. We were very we can post those pictures. Those are good. Um I I still have my I have the one us at uh the wet lab too, where you're getting like Wasted with the cops.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

Yes, and uh you got wasted and I got hat fished by that one cop. Do you remember? No, I thought he was so cute. And then when we went to the second wet lab, I was all like, hey boy, hey, and then he took his hat off, and I was like, no boy, no. Hat fishing is real, and then I found out he was married, but I was already uninterested by that point because I had seen him without hats.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Oh my god, that much again. On brand for us. Okay, I was listening to a podcast, unlike you do. Um so, anyways, yeah. I like to listen to the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

I wonder what's gonna give first. Me listening to them or you not being upset that I don't.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

I'm gonna bring it up all the time. So eventually you're gonna get so up, like you're like, I'm just gonna fucking listen. If you want me to curate a playlist of episodes that are the from like the greatest to the least, I can do that.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Of our own FMS.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Like, and you should listen to it in this order. And like, if you're feeling this, listen to this one. If you're feeling that, listen to that one.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

Um I so badly want to promise you that I'll do it, but I know that I won't do it.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

I know, so I'm just gonna keep harassing you. I almost forgot what I was gonna say, but I didn't. Okay, so listen to this podcast. In Brazil, there is a couple. They were both given up for adoption when they were like children.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

Okay, do not tell me.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

Let me keep going. Let me keep going.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

No, I'm already grossed out.

Wet Labs, Hat Fishing, And Chaos

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Okay. They find out after 20 years of marriage and a child that allegedly has all of its fingers and eyeballs.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

It does it normally takes a couple rounds.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Yes, I'm like, so she can never have kids.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Not with like anyone even remotely.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Their brother and sister, they found out. So they decided to stay married. My question is do you stay married or do you get a divorce? Because at this point, you're 20 years in and you have a child. Like, this is gross as it sounds, like, I think I would just stay and bury the fuck down and make sure my child never had a child.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

I don't think I could sleep with that person anymore. Well, no. Like, I would stay married, but be like the whole dynamic of that relationship changes.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Changes. That also brings into like, have you ever heard the thing that like siblings will find okay? So I was watching the documentary The Guy with a Thousand Kids or whatever. Have you seen that one? I have not seen it, but I have heard of it. Okay. So in a portion of it, they talk about like how since there's so many of them or whatever, like psychologically.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

What are the odds, dude? Are you getting shit?

SPEAKER_01 37:50

But you will be more familiar with a sibling.

SPEAKER_03 37:53

You'll have more in common.

SPEAKER_01 37:55

Well, like you will be more inclined to feel like it's weird. So they're saying, like, so the guy that all the kids and they're everywhere or whatever, like the likelihood of them obviously, like, but it's even more in a vermon. Psychologists were like, um, it yes, because you feel like you'll feel a connection more and be more drawn to that person. But it's real like you're thinking it's because you love them, all the things like that.

SPEAKER_03 38:19

And the reason why I get what you're saying, I'm not saying that I'm attracted to my brother. Let me say this right off. What I'm saying is I met my brother later in life, right? Like we met a few times when I was a kid, hadn't seen him since I was like 11, tracked him down on Facebook, it was a whole thing, whatever. Uh when I I found him, when we finally met, after we hadn't seen each other in 20 years, right? It was like no time had passed, right? We had so much in common. We were so comfortable with each other. Like we thought it was gonna be awkward, right? Because you're seeing this person who you're related to in a big way and you haven't seen him in 20 years, and you know, going into it so nervous, thought it was gonna be so awkward. It was the most natural thing ever. So, like if I had just randomly ran into him without knowing that he would be like, Oh, I have a connection with this person. I have a connection with this person, I wouldn't have known what it was. You know what I mean? But like, so I can understand it from that aspect, not from like an attraction, but like from uh feeling a comfort level or being like, I vibe with this person.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

Yeah, and you wouldn't really know and you would just associate it with that. Assume it's a vibe. No, I would never have sex with them again.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

No, you could I couldn't, absolutely fucking not. No, I'm sorry. I can't even watch that fake step sibling porn shit. Like, no. Like we would it messes with my brain.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

I don't like to stay married and then we could have other partners.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

Yeah, like it's now an open marriage, but we're gonna stay.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Stay together and make sure our child never has a child.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

Okay, but okay, they can have a child, but not with somebody that's like you don't know, there might be some weird genetics up in there.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

That's weird. That's how it comes out with one eyeball or something weird like that. Have you seen the Goonies?

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Okay, have you seen some of these people that are born and it's just regular genetics? Like, no one's gonna know. No one's gonna know.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

No one's gonna know.

SPEAKER_03 40:11

Look at some of these people born naturally, okay? They look like they're inbred and they're not.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

So not verified, apparently. Well, that's that's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Are they? Do we know? Has anyone done a DNA test? No, they don't. No, now it's scary. Now no one wants to because there's been too many fucking stories of shit like that going down.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Yeah. So here's the thing like

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Remember, I thought my dad wasn't my dad for six fucking weeks when I did my DNA test. What did you did? I had to have told you that. Are you fucking kidding me? No. It was the worst six weeks of my life. Were you worried he wasn't your dad? Yes, because so we me and Jen split and got DNA tests for Christmas because my dad knows a lot about like his dad's side, but not so much about his mom's side, and he's into all that shit. So we're like, that would be a great Christmas present. And then our mom talked a lot of game, but we're like, we don't actually know what we are because we're not what she thinks or told us we were. Like she always said that we were Native American. And I'm like, have you fucking seen me? You don't. No. But then you look at Jen and you could see it. Jen's kind of Pocahontasy when she's in the sun.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:24

So, like, and she has blue eyes, like she looks native. So we're like, okay, maybe whatever. So we take it, and my dad takes it, right? And so we're talking about our results or whatever, and it tells you, oh, you know, we've linked you through DNA to the these are your family members. And it did not link me to my dad. And like he's talking, and I was like, Oh, you you did yours, you have your results and all the things, and he's like, Yeah. And I was like, huh. And I don't say anything, and I'm all like, fuck, my dad might not be my fucking like my dad's not my dad. And my mom was a ho. So like it's like fucking believable that maybe my dad's not my dad. Plus, you would just not so much in my life. We've been told that we're Greek. We have a Greek family cookbook, we had a Greek fucking flag in our yards, like we're fucking Greek. We grape leaves and all the shit. Okay. And my DNA comes back. I am 0% Greek and 24% Italian. And so now I'm like, did my mom fuck some random Italian guy? And my dad's not my fucking dad. And I'm now I'm like, how do I tell my fucking dad that he's not my dad? So I go to Jen and I'm all like, Jen, what the fuck do I do? And she's like, I don't know. Like, do we ask him? Like, I don't know what to do about six fucking weeks where I'm just like in fucking limbo, like completely convinced.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

We must have been when we were not talking.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

Probably. Again, timelines.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Yeah.

Brazil Twist: Married Siblings Dilemma

SPEAKER_03 42:55

I don't want to know. Um, yeah, so I'm and then I was talking to my therapist that I was seeing at the time about it, and like we're both like, she was a very nice lady. She was all like, well, maybe you're adopted. And I was like, that would be so much better. Because if one of them has to not be my parent, like I would definitely want my mom to not be my parent, you know, out of two, I don't want to be hers and not his. I'd rather be his and not hers. But so so finally, Jen's like, I can't take it anymore. And at a family dinner that I wasn't at because I was at one of my plays with my boys. She finally asked my dad about it. And my dad starts fucking laughing his ass off. And he's like, I'm definitely her fucking dad. And Jen's like, well, this is why. So he brings up his thing and shows her, look, I'm actually Italian. He didn't know he was fucking Italian. And but he never hit the share fucking results button. And so as soon as he hit share results, I get an email that says, Hey, we found your dad.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Oh my god. Dad caused the biggest panic for six weeks. Six weeks. So all you had to do was say something to him, and he would have been like, but you've met me.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

And it's not like, listen, me and my dad, though. We did not have a conversation until I was 30 years old. Until I hit the fucking elk in the car. We never spoke, just the two of us. I'm not gonna then be like, hey, are you my dad?

SPEAKER_01 44:27

I just couldn't. I couldn't. See, me, I can't keep. I have to know. This is where we are not the same. I have to know immediately. If I get information for the same thing, you also the problem. I don't even get all the information sometimes before I start reacting and going. So that therein is also a problem. I'm very self-aware. I am very self-aware. Very self-aware.

SPEAKER_03 44:49

No, I sat and I sat and simmered in it for six weeks to drain myself from the inside out.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

That's he, that I will not do that too.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

And my dad thought it was the funniest thing. He to tell me that I was his dad, he sent me memes. He or gifts. I am your father. He sent me gifts. He sent me fucking Vader saying, I am your father, and then he sent me fucking ones from Godfather, and then he sent me the Italian flag. That was his way of telling me. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

You tortured yourself for no reason. See, I can't do that. See, for me, I'm like, whatever the information is is gonna be way better than me imagining shit. Because the way that I can create some really wild scenario.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

I'm like an emotional prepper. I'm like, worst case scenario. Let's get prepared for it. Let's do this.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

See, I'm like, let's just jump all in. Just get it out of the way.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Just take it. I just prepare for the worst case and then pray that that's not what actually.

SPEAKER_01 45:46

But in the meantime, you torture yourself. Oh, completely. I love how we're both like very self-aware, but like, especially for the other person.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

We can't fucking fix it, but we know we do it.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Where you lack, I pick up. Where I lack, you pick up. I guess.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

See, this is where this is where they stop it.

unknown 46:06

God damn it.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Do you love how I just like sink that in all the time now? Always. Oh, it's so funny. I would never marry you either, okay? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

Am I supposed to be offended? I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

I just think it should be stated, even though I always say it in actuality.

SPEAKER_03 46:26

Listen, we both know that I would not take care of you to a level in which you would find satisfactory.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

Okay, facts. I love that. You I love that that you know that about me. I, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 46:43

We have been friends for a long time. I am very as self-aware as I am about me.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I am about you. Equally aware.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Same, same. Oh, I'm dead. This really was a podcast that went nowhere.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

I know. It's fine. I like that. We need that. Hey. This is how we are. This is how every hangout with us is.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Yeah, so basically you just hung out in my bed with us. That sounds really creepy. And or sexual. No, no. It sounds like that. It is not. You are fully clothed with your jacket on. I haven't even taken.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

I know. I haven't even taken picture. She never takes her jacket off. Not usually. It's in the summer.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

I need to get you this thing. I just saw they have it at Costco. It's a heated blanket that you have foot as foot pouches to put your feet in, and then she gets your feet up. So you step in it. It's like a hood, arms, step in, lay down. Like a blanket that.

SPEAKER_03 47:40

You want to know what level I'm at now?

SPEAKER_01 47:43

What?

SPEAKER_03 47:44

I wear at all times graduated compression socks.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

I'm like, what are we looking at right now? Like your leg?

SPEAKER_03 47:53

It does look sexy.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Do you have compression socks?

SPEAKER_03 47:56

I do! They go all the way up to my knee. So they kind of look cute if I'm wearing like just them and like a long shirt. It's like sexy a little bit. My sexy compression socks. I'm a sexy grandma. Okay. But yes, yes, that is where I'm at in life. Like, I used to go so fucking hard, and now I have to wear compression socks in the winter so my feet don't go numb.

SPEAKER_02 48:21

It's dumb. You need a nerve test.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

I took one and they were very confused by my results, but because it didn't give them the results that they specifically treat, they are like, that's super weird, but bye. Because I my heat test came back, like I have no shit going on, but I can feel things. And apparently you shouldn't. It's supposed to either both are bad or both are fine. And one is bad and one is fine. And they're like, that doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, uh, you're welcome. Like, that's me walking contradiction. No. Um, have you ordered the book?

SPEAKER_02 49:02

What Body Keep Score.

SPEAKER_03 49:03

Yes, I physically have it in my custody.

SPEAKER_02 49:05

Okay. We'll check up on that next time. And not next podcast. Can we you won't have it?

SPEAKER_03 49:10

Can I just say the words? Why don't you just recommend it?

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Recommend it as the book for your book club.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

I already picked a book, and that's not the book. Because listen, though. Listen, I have solutions and you don't like any of them. The first two books this year have been personal development. Fucking personal development. Okay, why am I not in this book club? Why am I not in your book club? I don't know. That's a personal choice. I can invite you, but will you go? Will you read the books?

SPEAKER_01 49:35

Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:36

They're not all self-help books.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

I know. I'm like, can I just come to the self-help ones? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

That's the thing. This is why I love this book club. So me and Crystal started it. Crystal is the one that Fat Roger tried to cheat on me with. Me and it's our book club. And we specifically designed it so that you can come to any ones that you want to, and you don't have to come to the ones you don't. You do have to show up for at least one event per year, or you will be removed from the group because otherwise, why are you here? Stalker, weird. Um, but we take turns so we read all different types of books so that way people always get at least one book that they want to read in there. But I have learned because we did two fucking self-help books in a row. I fucking hate self-help books. Because I feel like the entire concept could be provided to me in a short article.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Yes, I agree. It's a lot of like storytelling and back. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 50:32

And like I got the concept on page three, and by chapter three, you know, like it's it's in there, it's solidified. I get it, I understand when to pull it up, I know when to use it. Like, I get why am I only 25% through this fucking book? What how is there what else do you have to tell me?

unknown 50:51

I hate them.

DNA Tests, Panic, And Relief

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Well, I have read seven books in the month of January to only be 25% through the one I'm supposed to be reading for book club. Because I hate self-help books that much. So I I'm gonna try to read that book. I am. I I will force myself to take it on my cruise because I'll have no internet and I will only have whatever physical books I bring, and then I'll have to read it.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

I like that idea. And on that note, we are gonna close.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

That's how we're gonna close. Sorry. That was lame.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

Uh no, we're all gonna hold you accountable on your reading of the book.

unknown 51:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 51:35

That's fair.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

If you I'm you really should, if you give me like deadlines and shit, that's more like you need to make stop. No. I hate this. You got way too excited.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Wait a minute, I can tell you what to do.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

No, I just I listen, I'm a corporate America girl. I thrive on the body.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Deadline to hang out with me. You have to get over. Yes, I will. Next time. There was no bread. I know, I've been gone all weekend. And that thing takes two days to make bread. But I took her out. It's Wednesday.

SPEAKER_03 52:13

You've been home for two days.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

Uh uh, I got home Monday night.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Yeah, Wednesday, two days.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

No, because it's Wednesday. Yeah, but I've been really busy. I actually really have been. So today, tonight I'm feeding her, so I'll take her out and get it going tomorrow. You owe me bread. And then you have to come over. Yes, you have to come over then again this week.

SPEAKER_03 52:32

Yay me. Okay. All right. For someone who proposed that idea, that Hey Me was not very excited.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

No, it was. It was excited. That was meant to be. It's my low raspy voice. Mm-hmm. Sexy. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Honestly, on that note, that's a much better on that note. It is. All right, bye. All right. Bye, Besties.