we are NOT the SAME

One Of Us Got Run Over, Did Karaoke, And Bought A Vibrator

Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph Season 3 Episode 35

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Ever feel that snap when your patience finally gives out? We call it “crashing out,” and we get honest about how it shows up: the public blowups, the quiet spirals you hide at home, the friend-only vents, and the moments you wish you could take back. We share the messy, human stories—getting run over by your own car during a fight, stealing the karaoke mic on a wave of adrenaline, shattering a car window in rage—and then break down what those moments taught us about triggers, boundaries, and repair.

We also explore the subtler crash: social media spirals that escalate post by post. You’ll hear the red flags we watch for, the rules we use to avoid late-night posting regret, and the small rituals that help us cool off fast. Relationships sit at the center of many crashes—jealousy, disrespect, being ignored—so we talk about calling out bad behavior without lighting the room on fire, and owning it when anger crosses into harm. There’s humor too, because life at home is a minefield of empty boxes in the pantry, missing scissors, and milk crimes that can tip you over the edge.

What keeps us grounded now is a mix of structure and self-awareness: labeled tools, duplicate essentials, weekly return bins, ten-minute rage room sessions, and simple de-escalation steps like breathing, a walk, or a “sleep on it” rule. Growth looks like shorter meltdowns, less fallout, faster repair—and the courage to say sorry. If you’ve ever wondered why small things trigger big reactions, or how to land the plane before it hits the ground, this one’s for you.

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SPEAKER_03

That was weird. I don't know what it is. Is that stimming? I yeah. I was looking at sweaters.

SPEAKER_02

ADHD.

SPEAKER_03

I can't explain my brain.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry. Alright. No more sweater looking.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Like, no more sweater looking. Hi, everybody.

SPEAKER_03

Hi. On that note. We're here paying attention to what we're doing. Uh, yes.

SPEAKER_02

You just are trying to in you're you're rage baiting me. You're trying to get me to crash out on here.

SPEAKER_03

I'm not even trying. I'm just really good at it naturally.

SPEAKER_02

No, that wouldn't make me crash out.

SPEAKER_03

Um as we were listening to your child crash out. I know. Literally, I'm like, literally.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go ahead and start the podcast now. It's the short one, by the way. It's always the short one.

SPEAKER_03

It's always the short one. A lot of rage in that little potato.

SPEAKER_02

She's a nasty spud right now. She's spud nasty.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, don't ever tell her that. Don't ever say that out loud again. What is wrong with you? The nastiest of spuds. Stop it. No. I wish she used to hear it. That'd be her rapper name. Oh my god. Stop it. Like, I can literally picture her doing like a fucking school talent show in her head. Yes. Right? Is it not fitting? Oh my god. No. Don't let her do it.

SPEAKER_02

No, I would not. But she ends up in prison. That was. On her neck. Just a big old potato.

SPEAKER_03

Potato on one side and just throw it nasty on the other.

SPEAKER_02

It's like someone's like, Do you go by Tater? No. Sprud. Nasty.

SPEAKER_03

They call me Tater Salad. That's a bit. That's a bad thing. I know that is. I know that one is that what is, yes.

SPEAKER_02

Gosh. Do you think people just like start listening to us?

SPEAKER_03

You have made me of my stemming versus bit. I'm fine. I know most of it is. I'm so self-aware now. Crash out. Anyway, that's what we're talking about. Crashing out. Crashing out.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. So crashing out. We like to call it losing your shit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's the same thing. It's just new terminology because that's actually a term that like I agree with. I think it makes sense for what people are using it for. Like some of the words that this generation has come up with is just mind-boggling to me. And like skibbity toilet. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? But crash out totally makes sense. Because that is what you're doing, essentially.

SPEAKER_02

Crashing out. Um, and not, you know, at first I was like, what? Just falling asleep? No, no, losing your shit. Losing your life.

SPEAKER_03

Is that what you thought it meant?

SPEAKER_02

No, that's like to me, that's what I'd be like. I would say like I'm crash. Like, that's like I would say that if I would go to sleep. I always slept, thank you. Always.

SPEAKER_03

I just mean because you don't do the other kind of crashing out as much anymore. Oh, yeah, no. No, I oh, you're right.

SPEAKER_02

I don't.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_02

No. We will talk about some of our like You have you do have some moments. There have been some times. I have not, there's no crash outs.

SPEAKER_03

It's done differently now. Now you like start crash out and then you reason with yourself until you get to like.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's like a therapy session with you. That's me calling you. That is not a crash out.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that's fair.

SPEAKER_02

Because a crash out would be like me actually like doing things on said thoughts, not just like having said thoughts. Not just being like, so here's my brain dump. Okay, I'm good.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that's because I think there's different versions of crash out. There's the public crash out. Yes. There's your private little like there's your private, like your friend crash out. Oh yeah, okay. We can have different layers. There's your internal crash out, like the ones that like you don't even share with people.

SPEAKER_02

And then there's the external ones, like that one time in Seattle. We'll call that a full-on crash out.

SPEAKER_03

That's the definition of a crash out.

SPEAKER_02

That whole night was like that was a very public. Very public. A lot of people were involved.

SPEAKER_03

Progressively worse. That was the beginning of the end. The first time.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, that end only lasted very, very briefly. I was like, I'm a fucking asshole. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

And at least your crash out didn't end up with you in jail. It very well could have.

SPEAKER_02

No, thank you to me with my brother.

SPEAKER_03

Crash outs end up with them in jail. That's true. Like, I percentage-wise, I wonder what percentage of public crash outs equal jail time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I wonder if that's a statistic we could Google. Well, I'm gonna look it up. I don't think they would have it. That would be fucking hilarious if they did. Because what are they doing? Having a a question on the police intake form for jail that says, like, were you crashing out?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I'm gonna look it up.

SPEAKER_03

I don't feel like I've had very many public crash outs. I mean, I'm sure I have. I know that with social media crash outs.

SPEAKER_02

Have you ever posted things I showed encrypted? Yes. That just got progressively worse.

SPEAKER_03

Like you can tell my mental state usually.

SPEAKER_02

So like you're good at being you're good at the you are good at the social media.

SPEAKER_03

I do subtle crash outs, right? Like if you're paying attention, you will see it happening. Oh, I know what's coming. You aren't paying like you know what I mean? Like it's not obvious to those who don't know me that I'm crashing out, but people who know me, like it's really fucking obvious when I'm having a crash out. Mine's not like big and boisterous. Mine is like an internal shutdown.

SPEAKER_02

And not so much anymore, but before in the previous times.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I would just get wasted and blackout and then shut the fuck down. I'm trying to think. Oh prisoner and Carter. One of my biggest crash outs was very, very public. It was when we were going to um a coworker's birthday at Iron Horse in the Valley, Spokane Valley Iron Horse. And he got mad at me because I fucking spoke to other people. Like that was literally why he got mad. And he um was stealing my car. And so like I went and I got in the car, and like we're screaming at each other. Cause I'm like, dude, don't take my fucking car. My house keys are also on my fucking car keys, and we're just screaming at each other, whatever. And then I realized like he is not, it's not a safe place to be with him in that moment. So I'm like, fuck this, I'm out. Take the fucking car. Like, I'll figure my life out. Bye. And I go to get out of the car, and like he fucking drives off and runs over my leg with my own fucking car in front of a bunch of people that I work with, and I fucking lost it. Were you okay? Yeah, I was fine. I still went back. I went in and fucking karaoke'd. I'm the real Slim Shady. That was my fucking crash out. I got so I was sick and shit. I stole the microphone from two white men who was doing the song. It wasn't even my karaoke stuff. I literally like smoked a cigarette with my boss. Well, he wasn't my boss until the next day, so that made it even fucking weirder. But so, like this dude that I knew I worked with, but I didn't actively know very well, smoked a cigarette with him because he's like, Are you okay? I'm like, I'm fucking fine. And I go inside and I down two fucking shots, and they're singing the fucking real slim shady on the karaoke and butchering it, and that made me even more fucking mad for some reason. So I walked, I stole the microphone from these fucking dudes, and then I did the song fucking justice. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_02

Can you do it now? Um, not I will put on the karaoke for you. Stop. Let me do it. Let me do it.

SPEAKER_03

I'll get you some shots of coffee. It's been a long time and I am sober and I'm listening. I'm not crashing up.

SPEAKER_02

Give me some shots of coffee.

SPEAKER_03

It was bad, dude.

SPEAKER_02

I'll give you some sugar in the form of candy. That sounded weird. I'm like, uh, not that sugar.

SPEAKER_03

Not that was a whole conversation about not getting married. Stop. I'll give you the sugar. I'll give you the sugar. The candy sugar, the baked good sugar, the kind you like. You're like, you don't even like the other kind that much. You don't. No, not if it's not right. Um, okay. Yeah, but that was like a very like and then I just drank a whole bunch more, and then uh I ended up walking to the porn store with one of my coworkers, and she bought us matching vibrators because she felt bad that I got ran over with my own car. And that's and then we had a break.

SPEAKER_02

Strange. I know. Strange. You just got ran over by a car. Let's go get a matching vibrators. Did you plan on using them together? This is a good one. No, we did not. Not the fact that you now I have like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03

She was like one of those no, listen. I people for some reason, at least at during this time in my life, not currently, but like during that time in my life, like people that were like innocent people wanted to hang out with me because like I was an excuse for them to do things that they wouldn't normally do. And so like she was like a good girl, and like she got she got dropped off by her husband and got permission to like spend the night with me and like.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, so she's like, Let's get a vibrator, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Cause I think she just wanted one and like couldn't get one under different means, but now she has a story and was like, Oh my god, I got my two vibrators, we're lazy. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it was like that vibe, but I love her. She was we're not still friends now, but like that was the that was the vibe of what was happening.

SPEAKER_02

Got it, got it.

SPEAKER_03

But then like we get to my house and we're locked out of my house because he has my car and he has my keys, and it's like 2 30 in the morning.

SPEAKER_02

And thank God my Is this your house that like I knew your house?

SPEAKER_03

It no, it was the when we lived in the fourplex off of no, we didn't, you did not know me then. Ashton was only like six months old when I moved into that place, so yeah, you had not met me yet. Um, my neighbor happened to be up, the one who lived across the street, not in the fourplex, like it was like this singular house, nothing around it, just one random house, and then directly across from it, two fourplexes. It was a really weird setup, kind of creepy. And he helped me.

SPEAKER_02

Did the guy in the house watch you all all the time?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. Like he was like, We walk up and we're loud because we're drunk, and she kept falling down and she hurt her knee. It was like a whole thing. And then he's all like, Are you okay? And I was like, I'm trying to figure out how to get in my house because I lived on the second floor, of course. So he's all like, Oh, let me get a ladder and I can help. Because I was like, I think my slider's unlocked. Like fucking fingers crossed, I'm an idiot. Because like that would be really beneficial right now. And then he's like, Oh, I couldn't find a ladder, but I got like a step stool. And I was like, dude, I could do you see how short I am? Like, I'm not making it up there with a step stool. So he's like, Oh no, I got you. So he gets on the step stool and picks me up and throws me to where that sounds like a bad idea.

SPEAKER_02

You break very easily.

SPEAKER_03

Back then, though, I was all drunk and like wibbly wobbly. You know what I mean? Like a ragdoll.

SPEAKER_02

And you wore heels all the time, you were fine.

SPEAKER_03

All the time back then.

SPEAKER_02

That's really what's wrong with you. You fucked yourself up with those heels.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the physical therapist is like, you don't do that anymore. And I'm like, oh. And then I try to wear them now after not wearing, and I was like, I cannot believe like the majority of my life I wore these every day. All day. I wore every snow, I ran in them, I did all the events in them. I wore heels every day of my life for like 20 years minimum. Yeah, I don't know why. Like all the way back to like high school. Like I don't know why. I like them. They made my legs look fucking good, man. Now my legs don't look great because I don't wear my hands.

SPEAKER_02

And you're like a small human. Me and heels, I'm just taller than everybody.

SPEAKER_03

You are pretty tall. So that's fair. Five six. Oh, that's not as tall as I thought. I thought you were taller than that. I'm 5'4. You're not that much taller than me.

SPEAKER_02

Two inches is a lot. Yeah, it is. That two inches makes a difference.

SPEAKER_03

Unless that's all you have. Then no.

unknown

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02

That was really funny. Oh, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, but sometimes.

SPEAKER_02

We all have a little P.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, we do. Johnny Bravo. Mine's literally, I just call him little P. Well, we I had one of those two. And then I also have a half mast. Lemon was half mast. Never better than half mast. Ever.

SPEAKER_02

So happy to never have any of those problems anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Worst ever. Literal. I also had a crash out. Um, do you remember Ichabods?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Okay, yes. Because um man boobs, that was like his spot. Remember? Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03

I used to just go, I I lived right there, so I was there all the time.

SPEAKER_02

We drank there a lot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I love that place. It was such a great big dive bar.

SPEAKER_02

It was a big dive bar. And I like the bartender, the one girl, I don't even remember her name.

SPEAKER_03

I don't remember her name either, but I know exactly what you're talking about. She's great. She was great. She worked there a lot, and then towards the end, she left. Yeah. Yeah. Super sad. But I've had, I've definitely had multiple crash outs. There was somebody killed there.

SPEAKER_02

We're never going there again.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I haven't been there in forever, right?

SPEAKER_02

Somebody, yeah, I would I think about that and I've driven by and I'm like, I can't believe the amount of times, too. That was like probably nine years ago.

SPEAKER_03

There was one time I went there with a guy named Kyle, which red flag instantly. I should have known better. And I guess he was like saying really like not awesome things, and it wasn't my brain wasn't catching like what he was putting down, but all of my friends were like, What the fuck? And it he was saying like in a like mean shit about me and about women in general, and like just giving really douchey vibes, but because I was like really fucked up and I thought he was super cute.

SPEAKER_02

You were not paying for that.

SPEAKER_03

I was not I was ignoring all of the signs and all of the flags, and then my friends were like, You absolutely cannot leave here with him. So I left with a different guy, and then that he crashed out. He crashed out so hard. He showed up at my apartment, and we're inside, and I'm with that guy and my two friends who told me to leave the bar from that guy, and like we're being loud, and we're like, Shh, chill era, shh, and he's like, I got so good. He's like beating on my fucking door, and it was crazy. I was scared. I was glad I had other people there. I was scared.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you got out of it.

SPEAKER_03

So that was a serious crash. That wasn't me crashing out, but that was like a hardcore crash out for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Um, have you ever crashed out on a boyfriend?

SPEAKER_03

I I know the answer is yes. I'm trying to think of a specific. Yeah, I mean, me and and prison Aaron Carter, we had moments for sure where we just fucking lost. Oh yes! The best example was when I found out that he was cheating on me with his best friend's little sister, and that bitch made my coffee in the morning before I went to work, and that's when I moved out, and um he was trying to do the whole like it was a fuck up and nothing really happened, and you misunderstand, and blah dahdy blah, and he's like, We have a kid together, we need to like work on this and all the things, and I still had to drop Deegan off before work because I had a job, and of course he fucking didn't, still doesn't fucking day. Um and you see red flags. I just ignore them challenge six flags theme park. Like six Sigma Lean. I can fix it.

SPEAKER_02

You're like, this is my kind of establishment.

SPEAKER_03

Ugh. I don't even like theme parks that much. Roller coasters are awful. I hate them.

SPEAKER_02

But you like the emotional ones apparently.

SPEAKER_03

I maybe that's why I don't like the real ones. I'm like, I'm on them all the time. You're like, I don't need stimulus. Do what?

SPEAKER_02

But you're just like too much stimulus.

SPEAKER_03

So after he's trying to do like all of the sweet talk and convince me that he didn't fuck this girl, and he's like, hey, come over early one day before work so we can talk before, you know, blah, blah, blah. So I show up when I'm supposed to, and he's fucking in the bed with her, and she's just in a bra and panties, and I fucking lost it.

SPEAKER_01

As you should, what you do.

SPEAKER_03

I punched him in the fucking face. And then he tried to tell me that she just needed a place to crash, and nothing happened. And the fact that she had a bra and panties on was his fucking proof that nothing happened. I'm like, you are the you are the dumbest motherfucker I think I've ever met in my fucking life. So I've punched him in the face twice because I did then, and then I punched him in the face when I found out I was pregnant with Ashton because I was also really fucking mad.

SPEAKER_02

That's also his fault.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, because he was spreading the seat at that time.

SPEAKER_03

I was a fucking crash out at work finding out I was pregnant because I was having flu-like symptoms, and I've never had the flu, so I convinced myself that it was the fucking flu. I was throwing up all the time, and I was like, man, this flu is kicking my ass. And I'm at lunch with my little group, and this guy that I was good friends with at the time, he's all like, wouldn't it be funny if you were pregnant?

SPEAKER_02

And then it dawned on me.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, it would be the exact fucking opposite of funny, and then I couldn't stop thinking about it. And so my other friend went on her lunch break and got me a pregnancy test from the local Walgreens and brought it back, and I, like an idiot, took it at work because I couldn't concentrate, I couldn't do my job. You know, you're like me, then you had to know right away. I was crashing out right from the get-go.

SPEAKER_02

Old lazy had to know right away. Well, lazy now is like I'm gonna avoid everything.

SPEAKER_03

Everything. This is a different scenario, all right? If for any reason I thought I was pregnant now, I would behave the exact same way. Trust that. So I took the fucking test, and it was like, you know, I was like, oh, wait a couple minutes. Mm-mm. When you're Uber Duber pregnant, like it's quick as fuck. So within like 30 seconds, it was like, yeah, congratulations, fucking Lations, you are pregnant. I started crying so hard, I was hyperventilating, and it was so loud that like the entirety of HR for my company on site came into the fucking bathroom to make sure that I was okay. They thought someone died because I was crying so hard, and the only thing I could say was, I have to go, I have to leave, I have to go.

SPEAKER_02

There's the opposite of death. It's the opposite of the death.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, there was gonna be a death. Like I was like, there might be one later. Like, watch the news. And I drove to Carrie's house. We weren't together at the time when I found out. Like, we were broke. It was after I found that bitch. I see, alcohol is a hell of a drug. Because I still slept with him after I found him with that bitch. Because I was drunk and it was Valentine's Day, and I'm sad and lonely. Now I have a kid. You be careful, ladies. You be careful.

SPEAKER_02

And he's just like his father.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh, no, he's bad. He has a job.

SPEAKER_02

He looks just like his father. He looks just like Okay. Excuse me. Let me reframe what I meant. I meant he looks just like his father. He's a reminder for you. He's a nice little reminder.

SPEAKER_03

It's hard to love someone that looks exactly like someone you hate so much. It's hard. It fucking trying for fucking sure. But yeah, so I finally they let me leave and I drove straight to Carrie's house, which was funny because technically I was like, I was seeing somebody else. I've seen little P. Ironically. That's so funny. That's actually a true story. I've seen Lil P. And like, I was like, at no point did my brain think it could be little P's. I knew. I fucking knew that it was Carrie's. And I drove straight to his house and he was sleeping, and I punched him in the face because I was so mad that he was sleeping. He was sleeping in the middle of the day with it in the afternoon. No, it was after lunch. He still sleeps in the middle of the day. Yeah. So I mean, my bad, because I have hit him twice. But he I feel justified both times.

SPEAKER_00

So yes.

SPEAKER_03

But those were crash outs. That those were my violent physical, actual crash outs. Have you ever actually hit a person? No. Never ever. Never. That surprises the shit out of me, to be honest. I know. So what's your version of a crash-out? Your worst crash out. Um, okay. Besides the bottle. Besides you trying to stab someone with a broken beer bottle.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I exploded Luke's window by punching it, so I did punch. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Like his car window? Yes. You gotta hit that so fucking hard. I know.

SPEAKER_02

And I was wearing my like with your hand? Yes. Hold it. And like fuck. It shattered and it was like so satisfying, but then I had to buy a new window the next day. But which window? Um, it was on the back of his car. No, it was on not not the it wasn't the Malibu. It was his other car, was like what the like the big back window? The back passenger window, like behind the driver.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um okay, so we were out, we floated the river, okay, and we came back and we were all like drinking and stuff, whatever. So we get out at a place that we are not normally getting like supposed to get out because we were like, oh, we'll just get out here or whatever. Anyways, he's like, him and then the other people left to go get cars to come back and pick us up. It is hours later, and me and the kids are still there. I have no phone. Um, it is dead by this point. I have to flag down a guy like running on the Centennial Trail. And I'm like, Can I use your phone? I'm calling Luke, he does not answer. I then call my mom, who's at work, to come pick us up to go home, to find this man passed out halfway in the front door, halfway out the front door.

SPEAKER_00

Shut the fuck off.

SPEAKER_02

I was just, I just lost my shit and I walked over to the and I just punched it, and I had no idea that it was gonna explode, and it did, and it was satisfying. And yeah. Did he watch you do it? He was woke up instantly and he's like, What the fuck? I was like, you deserve that. And then he did. That fucked. Yes, and then come to find out he had been taken home by someone and he wasn't even like, Can you go back and pick them up? He was like, What was his excuse? He was drunk. But I mean, that's so, anyways. Then I bought him a new one in the next day, so it was fine. And he's okay, our freaking neighbors, they're just so amazing. I think he was like, they're like, Oh, what happened? And he's like, Yeah, I don't know. It was just, you know, I came out like when did this happen? It was like in the summertime in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_03

It was like, but when you were at this house, or this house, this house. We've been here for a long time. You have been here for a long time because you moved here before I moved to Idaho, and I've been there for seven years already, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, it's yeah, so that was learn two things, satisfying to punch a window. But I had a diamond on, so my Maddie diamond, so it's like it was like it's a 1.5 karat like heart-shaped diamond, so it sits up kind of high, and I think that helped. I for sure uh that ring also became loose after that. The prongs, one of them broke. Oh, then how to like fix that too. So it was a very expensive lesson, but it was satisfying. And you know what? He never did anything like that ever again. That's good. That's good. I don't even know what came over me. I was like filled with rage, and it just my instinct was to punch the window.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, at least you didn't punch him, you did better than me.

SPEAKER_02

No, I just didn't you're right. I don't know why I didn't think about that. I don't know. I want to go to the rage room still. We can crash out in there.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, so when we went to Florida on one of our times, so we went to Florida because we've been like three times. Uh, we did a rage room, me and the kids. And first up, yes, it is fun. It takes so much out of you. Like, they they told us in the beginning, they're like, you can't do more than like I I think it was 10 minutes at a time. Like they're like, you have to switch out. Be one, they would only let two people in there, and there was three of us, but two, they're like, you will like exhaust yourself because like once you get started, it's like something in your brain, you're like, This is I'm allowed to let it all fucking out, and you do, man. Like, yes, we should do it. That'd be fun. There is one here in there. I do think there is one here. It was awesome. My kids loved it, I loved it, but then I'm the type of person I was trying to break something and it wouldn't break, and then I got more frustrated. I was like, this is counterproductive.

SPEAKER_02

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I don't like it when I'm not successful at things. I I honestly that will make me crash out. If I am unsuccessful, like I mean, obviously not in my love life. There are exceptions, but like if I'm working on like a work project and it's not going well.

SPEAKER_02

Specifically work, let's just say that.

SPEAKER_03

If it's not going well, I will like it.

SPEAKER_02

If your finances or work are not going well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I will like pace around the house and I will scream, and like these are like no one around crash-outs, where like all that energy is just built up and I'm going to explode if I don't get it out. So I liter I will pace and I'll scream and I'll cry and I will fucking, I will do like mini rage for like 15 minutes, and then I'm like, get your shit together, you're pathetic. And then I move on. And then I try to come up with a solution for whatever made me fucking lose it. I'm getting to a point now that like I'm almost too calm about shit. Like, I don't crash out like I used to. No, I don't either.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, I shove that shit in and bury it so fucking far down.

SPEAKER_03

I'm just at a point, I'm just like, I'm so used to shit just being bad at this point.

SPEAKER_02

I don't really have anything like to crash out really over. Things that will make me crash out though, ignoring me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I know that. I've done it, I've done it on purpose because I know.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, hi, then I just show up later. I'm like, hello. I see you fucking read it. Uh timestamp too.

SPEAKER_03

So you can you are very much like you cannot escape me.

SPEAKER_02

And then I just call. No. Um, you don't ever want to escape me, anyways. I know how it is. Like, oh, she's just at work, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, you do like to call me at the most inopportune times because I'm like in the middle of a meeting.

SPEAKER_02

I know. Then I'll just hang up. I'll even let it go to voicemail. I'm like, if she doesn't answer within the first three rings, I just hang up. Yeah. I'm like, oh, you're at work, it's fine. Talk to you later. Um, no, ignoring me. Um, that's like probably because why? Why are we playing passive aggressive games? Yeah, that would be something that would make me crash out, but I don't feel like I experienced that, so currently. My children know that they do not.

SPEAKER_03

And I'm like, excuse me.

SPEAKER_02

Like, I'm talking to you. I need like uh I heard you. Well acknowledgement. Yes. Acknowledge. Staring at your phone, not like at all looking up, doesn't lead me to believe you got it. Or the fact that I have to ask you 10 million times. See that that right there.

SPEAKER_03

I repeating myself is such a huge pet peeve. I fucking hate having to repeat myself.

SPEAKER_02

One hill we will both die on. I hate repeating myself, which is odd for you who remembers nothing so.

SPEAKER_03

I am a walking contradiction. I feel like you're asking. I'm not who can't remember shit. Yeah, I'm like, I can't remember anything, and I will ask. I will dare you!

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like I feel like I tell you the same things over and over again.

SPEAKER_03

I mean in the fucking moment, bitch.

SPEAKER_02

Like, I'm the exception to that rule.

SPEAKER_03

Oh God, that's that's funny and totally fair to call me out for that because that is true.

SPEAKER_02

It clicked in real time. I was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_03

The two don't add up. God, I need to stop doing this podcast because I'm just find out that I'm fucking awful all the time. You're like, well, if there were another person, it'd be awful, but because the way you do it is funny. It's exceptional. It is.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, here we go. The exception to the body. I actually don't mind when you do things or people that I love do things, but if I don't like you, chances are everything will irritate me.

SPEAKER_03

My level of patience is far less for people I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

That is very true.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

That's funny.

SPEAKER_02

So basically, it's all like dependent on the city.

SPEAKER_03

Dude, my kids do make me crash out. My kids will do things sometimes, and literally I'm just gonna be. I will share a story about Lily. I don't even know what to do with myself. I get so fucking frustrated.

SPEAKER_02

I will share a wonderful example of my little Lily. Okay, love Lily so much. I can no longer have any products of my own. She is a thing. Not only does she use them, but she doesn't know what a cap is. Or she doesn't know to put the things on or to close them. So, makeup remover wipes. I don't know why somebody needs them seven times throughout the day, but they were for your skin. To use it that much, you're gonna dry your shit out. There, well, I mean, she had there was like a lot of makeup and things, anyways. I don't know, maybe she anyways, do we have to make it?

SPEAKER_03

She does wear a lot of makeup for her cheer show.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, and that was but they were open seven different times. Tell me why. I wake up, okay. I was so mad. She then, like, okay, she like goes to her coach's room, hang out with them or whatever. The makeup wipes are open as I'm going to bed. I'm like, what the fuck? This is now like the sixth time. She comes back. I thought she was done washing her face sometime between that time me going to the bathroom and waking up in the morning and going to the bathroom. She has used them again and they're open. I'm like, I look over, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me right now? The makeup wipes are open again. They've been open all day. Every time I close them, and I'm like, close them. She's like, Oh yeah, sorry about that. Sorry. Sorry, ma'am. I'm like, you're not sorry, because this is literally the millionth time. And it wasn't just that day, it's every day.

SPEAKER_03

My kids put back empty fucking boxes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Tell me why. Oh my god. Tell me why we're refrigerating full boxes. Why we are freezing full boxes with nothing in them. And then I think there's food in the freezer because I don't eat that food.

SPEAKER_03

And then so I'm not gonna buy you some because I think you have some, and then you're gonna bitch me that I didn't buy you some because you're like, I'm fucking now. And I'm like, how the fuck am I supposed to know?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Yeah. Yep. Or then there's like my yes, my child's like, home equals no food. This is a medium size one, Lily. And I'm like, yes, there is. You just have to like make it. There's plenty of things. She just wants like all the really quick like there's lots of chicken and rice, so quit bitching. There's enough chicken and rice for fucking everybody. There was like a 10-pound bag of rice, and we had like 20 pounds of chicken. So I lots of sauces. I don't see what the problem here is.

SPEAKER_03

Because people want to eat other things, Heather.

SPEAKER_02

God. I they are very well stocked. But the the thing is, is like I don't the boxes, I don't know because I don't keep tabs. Because I am only one person, and there's three of you, and you guys are like a lot. So the least you could do is just like throw the boxes away. So when I scan. Dude, I feel it. I hate it. Or leaving one thing in the container and putting it back.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like, if you don't leave me enough milk to drink, oh my gosh. You and your milk, I forgot.

SPEAKER_02

That's a crash out for you, you and your milk. Okay, I have video of you pounding milk.

SPEAKER_03

I have multiple. Yes. It wasn't even my house. I walked straight into her house, straight to her fridge, and drinking.

SPEAKER_02

I want to ask the people on the pod. Have you ever had someone come over to your house and go for a straight 16-ounce glass of milk filled to the rim and then drink like it was a beer.

SPEAKER_03

Like you were like chugging it like it was a beer and you were like satisfied. A pint glass of milk at best is three drinks. I have it on video. That's like if I'm being conscious about it. Otherwise.

SPEAKER_02

And we should actually post this one for everyone to see. I literally have this.

SPEAKER_03

It's like a weird obsession, and it's gotta be 2%. I don't feel the same way about it. She did not like my the only time it can be 1% is if it's chocolate milk. I actually prefer 1% chocolate milk over 2% because otherwise it's just too fatty at that point. But I'm very picky when it comes to milk. It's like an insane thing. Like strawberry milk, you gotta go with Nesquick. Or no, Dairy Gold. But chocolate milk, you gotta go with Nesquick. It's important. You gotta drink the right brand for the right flavor. You know what I do crash out on? Um, I don't like it when fucking people dunk shit in their milk. It's like I've I have threatened to kick Skylar out of my house for dunking shit in the milk because he's ruining the milk. And how fucking dare you? Milk's expensive. When you drink as much of it as you dunk in the milk. My cookies and shit. Oh, well, that's normal. Don't you fucking dare. That is normal. Absolutely not. No, you take a bite, you take a drink. You don't fucking taint the milk with crumbs. Gross.

unknown

I think.

SPEAKER_03

But you know what's so funny about that? This is how much of a walking contradiction I am. Guess what I had for breakfast this morning?

SPEAKER_02

What?

SPEAKER_03

Cookie crisp.

SPEAKER_02

Why are you like that?

SPEAKER_03

I'm so fucking now. Sometimes I don't even realize how fucked up I am until I talk to you.

SPEAKER_02

I like, I know. If we're processing it out loud, it's like, oh well, actually.

SPEAKER_03

I really am a walking contradiction all over the place. I don't know why. I cannot explain it. I can't. And I feel so passionately about it, too, is the funny part. So I can eat cookie crisp, but I cannot dunk cookies in milk that I'm drinking. It's because the purpose is different. The milk that you pour in a glass is meant to be drank. It is. The milk that's poured in cereal bowl is meant to be enjoyed with cereal. I do still drink that milk though. So that does make it weird. What are you looking? Are you still looking for the video?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, but I found this one. Yes, the milk is here somewhere. It's in here.

SPEAKER_03

There are different kinds of girls at Halloween. Two guesses which one I am. This video is me dressed as a full-on witch. Like big old, like uh lock shock and barrel. That's what me and the boys were for Halloween that year.

SPEAKER_02

It was Yeah, I don't know. It's there. It's there that you yeah. I was pretty sure when I had COVID and I was just walking around. That was bad. I was that was yeah.

SPEAKER_03

For the Halloween you had COVID? Yeah. And we were hanging out? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02

Well, I didn't think about it until later on. I had no taste or smell.

SPEAKER_03

No taste or I never got that.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't get sick at all. I just had I had no symptoms other than like no taste.

SPEAKER_03

I would have loved that symptom because then I could have eaten healthy and gotten thin.

SPEAKER_02

I got really thin during those times.

SPEAKER_03

I actually did get thin during COVID because that was when I noticed I was fat.

SPEAKER_02

Um that's when we just started drinking and not eating.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we so it during lockdown, uh the bar you could order to go drink, so you could like pre-order them and then go and pick them up, and they would come in. I remember the jars. Yeah. This was fun. So me and my sister ordered some some beverages from the local bar and grill, and we went and picked them up, and we took a photo of us with them, and I was like, God, I look kind of fat. And then I was looking at a photo. I was dating horse teeth at the Oh, horse teeth. He doesn't go on my permanent record either, because that was also less than 90 days. But I was dating horse teeth at the time, and his real name, I I have to say it or else the story doesn't make sense. His real name was Luke, ironically, and I had a shirt because I like Gilmore girls, and it said Luke's, and it was the coffee cup, and so it was funny because I was wearing the shirt and I was dating the guy, and so he wanted a photo of me wearing the shirt, and he takes the photo and he shows it to me, and I was like, What in the fuck? Why do I look like my mother? Why am I huge? And like it was that was the moment, and then I lost 40 pounds because I was like, no, I was so fat and gross. And then I took an after photo wearing the same shirt, and I was so thin, and then now I'm kind of fat again. I gotta work on it. You are but I'm not as motivated as I was then.

SPEAKER_01

Do you need me to take a picture of you? No, I'm very aware.

SPEAKER_03

I weigh myself every day. I'm so aware of my size right now.

SPEAKER_02

You are not big? No. Yes. No. Yeah. We need to put the picture for people to take.

SPEAKER_03

No, we don't.

SPEAKER_02

My clothes are uncomfortable. Just get stretchy clothes.

SPEAKER_03

I can't stop eating the baked goods.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm making you some bread tomorrow. Yes, I need it. Well, I'm starting the process tomorrow. You'll get it the next day. Two days. Two days. Sourdough.

SPEAKER_03

I want to make the sourdough. I did you see? I finally used my bread maker. Yes. Because I didn't give you any bread.

SPEAKER_02

So I was like, oh, I didn't give a bread, so she had bigger out.

SPEAKER_03

It's not the same.

SPEAKER_02

It's not the same.

SPEAKER_03

It's not sourdough. No. Okay, we're so off. Topic. Crash out.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so crash. You're literally crashing out.

SPEAKER_03

I am tired. I'm not gonna look.

SPEAKER_02

We are actually almost at time. So those are our crash outs. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So mine was So we learned that I'm worse at crashing out than you.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I need to think about more.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like in my younger listen, I've seen you do crash outs.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I get fucking I have.

SPEAKER_03

You do get really mad really fast in the beginning, but then you talk yourself down. That is how your crash-outs are now.

SPEAKER_02

Now I'm like, yes, this is true.

SPEAKER_03

Remember when I came here the other time and like you and the kids were like all like and then by the end of it, I was just sitting here not saying a word, and you just had like a whole processing session with your cell phone.

SPEAKER_02

Something that I will crash out about is if I put something somewhere of mine in a certain place to not be touched, and I come back and it's fucking moved. It's not there. And then not only that, nobody has any idea where it went. Yeah. Not even like, oh yeah, here it is. I used it. Like, weird, I didn't even know anything was there. And I'm like, yes, you fucking did.

SPEAKER_03

I crash out over scissors because I have bought so many fucking pairs of scissors. Yes. Like double digits is the amount of pairs of scissors I've purchased. And then my nice pairs. I don't have any fucking scissors. Oh my god. But why? What are we doing that's involving so many? We don't do fucking crafts. What are we doing with this? I don't know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I use. My I always have like my nice pair, but my nice pair started wandering around the house, and I'm really concerned why.

SPEAKER_03

I even tried stashing them in different places.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I do. I have to hide them. And then, like I just said, the secret stash pair is making out.

SPEAKER_03

Why? Because you're replacing the ones that fucking went away. I ugh. Scissors stress me out.

SPEAKER_02

To me, you didn't have well. If you had a girl, then she'd be taking all your things that stresses me out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I don't have that problem like you do because and my clothes and my shoes, she wears everything. They have taken the few things that they take is like my curl cream. Ashton stole my hairdryer completely. Like he borrowed it, and I've never had it back since, and that was like a year ago, at least. Um, and then my fingernail clippers, I that's another thing I buy a bunch of that somehow are always gone. I even bought them their own like mail nail kit and put it in their stockings. Fucking gone. They don't fucking know where. I'm like, what the fuck? Why are all the cutting things gone? I wanted silverware gone.

SPEAKER_02

Gone. Tell me why. Oh, yeah, no. I thought that's probably my fault because I'm the one that eats on the run. I think I left a bowl in your car too.

SPEAKER_03

Probably. I left my cup here twice.

SPEAKER_02

I'm pretty sure I left a bowl in your car. It's fine. I'll get it later. Um, but yeah, I eat on the run. So those are our crash outs. We want to hear what your crash outs are. And the hill I'm gonna die on.

SPEAKER_03

And make me feel better. Make me feel like I'm not fucking awful. Crashing out.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm trying to think. Um, we have heard I can quickly we have a couple minutes. Um, my worst one would probably is our crash out from Seattle. Oh, for sure. Where I broke the beer bottle and then proceeded to yell at you.

SPEAKER_03

You called me a cunt. And then accuse me. I don't remember any of it. And then accuse me of fucking your husband. Like if you knew me at the time. Well, right. I hate to say this out loud because at that time I hated your fucking husband. But here's the thing.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like that Heather was like not even coherent. And she was very upset from what happened at the bar. Yes, sir. And very confused at why everybody swooped me out of there. So Heather was having a hard time.

SPEAKER_03

You just got to go back to the house. Everyone was mad at me.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone was mad at me because we had to leave. God damn it, Heather. And I just wanted to keep having a good time. The good time. So the good time is let me accuse my best fucking friend. I have no recollection of 20 of the. That's funny. I woke up the next day confused at why you were not even there.

SPEAKER_03

I know.

SPEAKER_02

And I had no idea that the beer bottle breaking incident. Heather Black. Yes, that was also very confusing.

SPEAKER_03

I lost my phone. It was a hell of a time. That was. It was the second time I lost my phone.

SPEAKER_02

And then the other crash out was when I I yelled at you about like, I don't think I yelled at you. I was just in a lot of pain after surgery.

SPEAKER_03

You definitely fucking yelled at me. Are you kidding me? You were so mad at me because I told you that we had to take your bandage off so that I could have anything else.

SPEAKER_02

We didn't have any other ones because we didn't stop. We didn't think about this. But you were so mad. You had to go and I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_03

You kept telling me I had to call the doctor, and I'm like, no, I fucking don't.

SPEAKER_02

No, we didn't have any sort of things to clean. I'm like, I cannot rip it off and leave it. I wasn't gonna leave it. But we didn't have anything. That was what the whole thing was.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like, we have to go. You weren't listening to me. I was like, you were so like, I need to have it cleaned. And I'm like, yes, we have to take it off to clean it. And you're like, the doctor didn't say that. And I was like, but I can't clean it if I don't take it off.

SPEAKER_02

Was we didn't have anything to do with it. We didn't stop to get anything, we didn't get anything ahead of time.

SPEAKER_03

We have very different recollections of this event.

SPEAKER_02

We do. But that was because my mom, I then had to have her go and she had to help me because we had nothing to clean it with. Nothing. We had no gauze, nothing. Nothing. And that was literally the whole reason. That was the reason you kept yelling at me because I wouldn't call the doctor.

SPEAKER_03

That's that is what happened, whether you remember it or not. You also have to remember you were on so many pain meds.

SPEAKER_02

I just had a major surgery. The only thing that I was concerned with was having clean bandages, which we had had none. And that was what I was irritated about. And I was in excruciating pain driving home. You have no idea. That was the worst pain I had ever been in for like nine weeks. Like I was in excruciating pain.

SPEAKER_03

It was a long drive because it was from Tri-Cities all the way here. Well, yeah, you shouldn't have done that somewhere so far away. So we can't really call that a crash out. We just was though. But listen, some crash outs are justified, some crash outs have reasons, and some crash-outs are just a buildup of like I can't fucking take anymore. You know what I mean? One of my coworkers kind of had a crash out this morning.

SPEAKER_02

We had a really crazy lead up to that surgery and everything, anyways. There was so much shit going on in the back.

SPEAKER_03

Everything was on edge. Plus, you have to think like I don't like some things went down with like the wrong pin for Christmas tree's house, and then you having me come get you from the bar, but then not getting in the car, and then all the shit all the shit that went down with the Campbells. Because it wasn't like I was dealing with all the shit with you, but then I was also dealing with all the shit from the Campbells because they kept putting me in the cable.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, and then we also had all the things that was blowing up from yes. And we were spiraling hard for months on each other.

SPEAKER_03

And I ha I wasn't sleeping for weeks. I like it. Honestly. It was a bad idea before we left. Like it things were just on edge already. You know what I mean? So yeah, we probably should have gotten sober before then. Do we it still took a while?

SPEAKER_02

It did, it did, but it's fine. We're here now. We're here now.

SPEAKER_03

I'm almost at four years.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, if we wouldn't have Who knows if we wouldn't have been that good of friends if we didn't have like Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I think our friendship is stronger because we were able to fucking agree ourselves and come back from it.

SPEAKER_02

We were also very like enabling each other. Oh, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_03

So we would have been like We were dragging each other down.

SPEAKER_02

We were like Well, no, okay, we were having lots of fun doing it, but yes.

SPEAKER_03

But we were dragging each other down. One of us would wake up extra sad that day and be like, hey, we should do drugs. And the other one would be like, that is the best idea that either one of us could have come up with for what we should do today. And then then like a day would go by, and then the other one would wake up extra sad that day and be like, you know what? I had a thought. I think we should do some drugs.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, this is like mushroom stuff. We should probably call the call. Just saying maybe a little gay. Yes. But not the hard chip.

SPEAKER_03

Like I have never, I've never done heroin in my life. Not one time ever. Never done meth either.

SPEAKER_02

I'm very sure I've done ecstasy early on in my teens.

SPEAKER_03

I've done ecstasy one time and it didn't work on me. I went home.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, it was probably meth, and you had like your calm for the first time ever. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03

I was with fiddlefaddle.

SPEAKER_02

It was meth.

SPEAKER_03

No, it fucking was not.

SPEAKER_02

We are actually out of time.

SPEAKER_03

What a way to end it. Oh, you crack me up.

SPEAKER_02

No, we are though.

SPEAKER_03

Our memory Oh, we're gonna- Yeah, we have to end it because we're gonna run out of memory cards. So bye!

SPEAKER_02

Um no, we have like we can like wrap it up. We have like less than five, so we can leave a nice little anyways. That's our little crash out session. I hope you enjoyed it. Very embarrassing for me. I'm um for you, and it was way worse for me.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like it's always worse for me.

SPEAKER_02

No. Except that time where we asked people who they thought, like almost shanked a dude. Everybody said you. So I feel I feel good about that. Listen, I haven't been in a real fight since high school. I've never even been in a fight. There was that one mom last year at Jams who like asked me to take it outside, and I was so, so confused.

SPEAKER_03

Which honestly, like balls. I would never, I would fucking never.

SPEAKER_02

I was like in my head, I'm like, this is your.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, you could sit on me and I'd die. Probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I could probably squeeze your head at like a piss. You could put my head like a pit bull. I won't, though. I love you. Thanks. I would do it to someone crash out. I would do it to someone.

unknown

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02

Don't tempt me.

SPEAKER_03

Someday. Oh, okay. That's the new bucket list item for Heather. Oh, that's and on that note.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, we will talk to you next week, besties. Bye.