Once The Ick Lands, You Can’t Unsee It

A single moment can flip chemistry into nope—and once the ick lands, it’s hard to unsee. We dive headfirst into the subtle and not-so-subtle red flags that shut attraction down: hygiene failures, bedroom misfires, manipulative “jokes,” and the social media habits that feel like betrayal in slow motion. Along the way, we unpack why certain icks hit so hard: they’re not about perfection, they’re about values—self-care, honesty, and respect for your partner’s experience.

We trade stories that are hilarious, cringe, and painfully real, from too-tight pants and curling toenails to post-hookup antics that nuke the vibe. Then we go deeper. Can an ick ever be fixed, or does the mind keep replaying the moment? We explore where change is possible—remove the trigger, rebuild trust—and where it isn’t, like lying in any form, weaponized incompetence, or turning “just joking” into a shield for cruelty. If your intimacy playbook skips foreplay, ignores consent cues, or treats sex like a solo mission, the ick isn’t prudishness—it’s self-protection.

We also navigate the modern minefield of posting, liking, and privacy. There’s a difference between staying low-key and keeping someone a secret; between a friendly double-tap and feeding a stranger’s thirst. Context matters, and consistency matters more—who you are at home should match who you are in public. Our non-negotiables round it out: clean habits, clear communication, no lies, no games, and for some of us, no smoking or active substance use. Progress over perfection becomes the quiet north star: when actions align with care, the ick radar calms and connection can grow.

If you laughed, nodded, or silently edited your dating list, you’re our people. Follow the show, share this episode with a friend who loves a good red flag autopsy, and leave a review to tell us your instant ick and why it never left.

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Transcript

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SPEAKER_00 0:34

I'm Lacey. I am Heather. How are you? I am like dead at the conversation we just had. That was not recorded.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

I'm still like Some things shouldn't be. Some things will later.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Yeah, no, we started recording and then we definitely stopped recording because again or No, in the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Oh, you were telling them. Yes. I thought you were saying it happened again. I was like, why are we so bad at it?

SPEAKER_00 1:00

No, I'm just recapping. Recapping for our audience, our besties. They don't know why we're laughing. We're in such great spirits.

SPEAKER_02 1:07

Dude, I think there's a good percentage of the time when they don't know why we're laughing, either from an inside joke or because they can't fucking see what we're doing. Because I very much feel like it's also like a live set of charades at the same time. That the storytelling, it's like, you know what I mean? It's a twofer. Oh my god, bad two for one.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Highly functioning ADHD individuals, one on the spectrum. Severely. You're not severely.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

Well, again, high functioning. I somehow passed without it for fucking 30 some odd years. And then once I found out and started telling people, everyone was like, oh my god, that explains a lot. I'm like, no, right.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

And our audience is willingly listening to our stories that they're hoping we get the point across. Every week it's like, is it gonna be an actual story or is it gonna be like several stories that have no ending? That's so fair. It's just one story that feeds into another, that feeds into another, and there's no end in sight.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

If it makes you guys feel better, we don't know if we're gonna get there either. We go on this journey together, guys.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

But maybe we found our people because we keep getting more and more listeners every single week. We love you. Um our audience in other countries is growing too. I don't know if that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

The thing that I think about that thing is sometimes I think about that, and I'm like, I wonder if they look at us and they're like, Is this what Americans are like? And I'm like, please don't use us as a point of example. I mean, maybe, but don't. You know what I mean? I do not want to be a representation for anything.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

It depends on what phase of the podcast you're listening to. Like, no, actually, are we talking about like well, I just sniffed into the I was loud. Panty sniffer. No, it was just a lesson. I turned it up really loud and I was laughing. Okay, that was awful. Sometimes I really wish we did edit. I would have edited that out. But then it would have been like they edited something. It ain't real.

SPEAKER_02 3:23

Maybe stop sniffing the microphone. I'm not gonna be able to get through this episode. Okay, honestly, that perfectly leads into our topic because our topic is icks, and you're giving me the fucking ick with the snorting.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Self the ick.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Ooh, I didn't even think about that.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Oh, I can give myself the ick. I'm like, why the fuck did I just do that?

SPEAKER_02 3:42

I do it all the time. I've just never associated it with that term. But like, there are moments where I'm like, God, I hate myself. Because I'll do something, and I'm like, why did you do that? You well, like, that was a choice, and it was the wrong one, and you went with it anyway.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

I feel like that's part of your tism.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

I will say it is definitely difficult now to like determine what is and isn't because I used to think that I was really quirky and like I self-proclaimed. I'm like, it I'm just such a quirky girl. And then it's like, no, you're just autistic. And then that was like it was it was good because it explained a lot, but it also was like sad because I'm like, so I'm not unique. You are you're not gonna be able to do that. No, I watched Love on the Spectrum, and honestly, that's what made me ask my doctor. Because I related to I relate, I was like, hey, I do that. And I do that, hey, I do that, and I so like I had qualifying characteristics with like four out of five of them, and I'm like, that's not good odds. Like, I really, really I bet you me talking so much about my title is probably an ick for people, but like it's because I went so long without knowing, and so now I just keep having epiphany after epiphany after epiphany that I do these things most likely because of it, and I can't shut up about it. So I apologize because that probably gives some people the ick. I'm here for it. People even sent us a meme where God, what was it? Hold on, I gotta find it because it was funny. Uh um, it says, when I'm checking his phone to see if he's cheating, and instead I find how to tell if my girlfriend is autistic in the search history. And my response was, oh, they know. I make sure they know.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Because I can't shut up about it. Everybody here knows.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Everybody knows. I make sure because now I'm all like, if you don't like me because I'm weird, don't blame me. Blame the Tism.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Blame the TISM. Blame the Tism.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Okay. But that gets into our topic. We do have the topic of icks. We're gonna try. I think we're gonna be able to stay on topic because I this is one of the few times where like I put in the work on this topic. Normally I just wing it, but then it made me, I was like, oh, I want to, you know, look up funny ones and blah blah blah. And then I was like, what does give me the ick? And it was a lot of self-reflection, and I feel like I get the ick quite easily.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

But about good things to get the ick on.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

I mean, I have to look back and be like, because I feel you retroactively get the ick. You don't get it when you should.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

Fair, fair statement.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

Oh, that should have given me the ick. Yes, yes, like the pants that we were just talking about.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

When your man wears tighter pants than you, that should be an iconic.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

It should be fair, yeah. I saw it like later on. I was like, what are those? And I tried to fix it and the problem did not fix itself. I'm like, oh shit, you're just willingly buying them that small one, whirling them up.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

That brings up an interesting thought. Like, I personally, we've talked about this part before because of that uh Netflix show. I don't think you can get over the ick. I think they made that up. I don't think you can, but can you fix an ick? Because there's a difference, I think, between getting over one and then like demolishing it, right? Like if it's no longer, if it no longer exists, can you get past it?

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Well, yeah, if it's not there. Well, I don't know. It depends how deep that ick is. If it's ingrained in your brain.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Yeah, if you if you look at them and that's all you can see, even when it's not like current.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Yeah. Can't come back. Can't come back. Okay. So I looked up just on like some Reddit, right? Like, hey, what type of different icks that you got? Some of them are really funny. The very first one out the gate was fucking intense.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Okay. Should we go shot for shot?

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Yeah, I'll read one and then you read one, and then at some point we'll give, you know, ours. Yes. It'll all make sense at the end, I'm sure. Okay, because this was the very first one I read when I started looking it up, and I fucking lost it. Okay. My ex always wanted his salad tossed, but never wiped properly. And when I told him why I wouldn't do it, he went into a depression spiral over it when all he needed to do was shower. Ow!

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Okay, gross. I feel if you're asking that, you should probably make sure that no kink shaming.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

You want your salatoss by all means. It feels great. Go do it. I'm here for it. But make sure your shit literally is clean. Like, how can you ask that of somebody and then present it and it's a fucking sewer? Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And then having your girl be like, hey, listen, I would love to do that for you, but like your ass stinks, dude, and it's dirty, it's crusty, there's brown. And instead of being like, I can fix it, you just get depressed and don't fix the problem.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

In fact, it gets worse with your depression, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Probably, because people don't people tend when they're depressed to not take care of themselves and not shower and not whatever. So, like, yeah, probably amplifying the problem. I will say, it was very alarming the amount of these that were directly related to hygiene.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

So there's a lot of gross men.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

There's a lot of gross people. Let's be real. Case in point, girls who don't throw away properly their sanitary products. That's a major ick for dudes, and that's a fucking fair ick. And if it isn't an ick, it should be a fucking ick because that is disgusting and unhealthy and unsanitary and gross. Just saying. Facts. Yeah. Like, ooh. That's like leaving fucking cresty S condoms around. Like, just clean up after yourself. Okay, yeah, especially if bottom.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

Clean your body.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

Wash yourself.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

It's not that hard. It's not that hard. There's a couple like stinky people at the gym, and it's the same ones, and I'm like, do you not smell yourself? I don't.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

It's just like it's just like the dude with the cat box or house, right? Like, yeah, but you willingly went into. Because I have a hard time with boundaries. I'm working on it. But like when you're in the smell concept or smokers, when you're around the smell, you don't smell it.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Okay, so we went to court for Johnny Bravo thinking that we needed to go for we did not. It's continued again.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Technically, we did, but we didn't.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

We didn't because they confused. So, like, we go into the courtroom, first of all, it is crowded. It just smelled so bad. I was like, and I'm like, I don't see. Let's get out of. Like, we checked, and then it had been moved. Anyways, so we were there for a very short amount of time. I'm like, by the way, we're victims, not people that need to be here.

SPEAKER_02 11:01

Also, the amount of people that had court that fucking day and time was astronomical. I was like, how are how are there so many criminals?

SPEAKER_00 11:10

I know. I actually recognized a few of them from like social media and one from like childhood, like middle school, high school. I'm like, wow. Oh, and one, that one I told you about that I saw walking in. You say that like I'm gonna remember.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

I understand this just happened this week, but I am.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

I was like the one that came over to the house that one time. Her husband. Oh, the crazy ones that are. You're gonna have to tell me after.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

I don't really want to say names at this point.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Because I really don't.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

But anyway, it's like criminal history is an ick, depending on what it is. Well, because I've been arrested.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Uh I think we all have at some point, DUI. Like, it's whatever.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Not that aggressive. I should have, but I've never gotten that. Okay, so I had one. I got arrested for like shoplifting when I was like 14, and then I got driving on a suspended because I sped a lot as a child. I got in the first six months of having my license, I got pulled over four times, and I got seven tickets and arrested once. And then they took my license.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Is your insurance like just now fine?

SPEAKER_02 12:21

Or no, my insurance is great.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Now shockingly.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

I know, but that so I haven't I I didn't get a speeding ticket from 16 until I was.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

I want to say something. You never told me because you're like, I am such a good driver under all things, and you were like pulled over at a you never mentioned that.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Well, that's because I was 16 years old, and I was just like, yay, I'm away from my horrible mother. And then that wasn't true because I had to go and pick her up a lot because she was drunk and doing stupid shit and yeah, trying to chase her down because she decided to walk away from the bar and no one knew which way.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

He's like, because you're not allowed to drive between the hours of like I don't know, something in like three, I don't know, early in the morning, and it's like the prevents like yeah, weird and um well, yeah, I don't know, Washington. Um prevents he's like, yeah, so that because they were having like teenagers like go pick their parents up, their drunk drunk parents up, and I'm like, or parents are having their kids come pick them up, and I'm like, I didn't even think about that. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

I started picking my mom up from the bar when I was 14. I didn't even have a fucking license, and I would still drive and go pick my mom up from the bar. I was very well known at Sullivan Scoreboard. I was 14. Anyway. Okay, back to the icks. Back to the icks. So, hygiene, please clean yourself. Especially if you want someone to lick you.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

I have I have never ran across like a that's I've never had a hygiene.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

I've never had like a hygiene issue that was like to that extent. One of these on here also said this. Did you kiss the guy that had the piss house? Did I kiss the dude that had the piss house?

SPEAKER_00 13:59

The cat pee house. Did I? Did you kiss cat pee house? Hold on. It's beerbox cat pee house.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

I just call him caveman, but because he looks like a Neanderthall. And I didn't kiss the case. As he came out of his beerbox cave. Right, because here's the thing, right? Once I get the ick, all of the things, that's all I can see after that. I saw he walked like a dinosaur. I saw he had the fucking brow of a caveman, all because of a cap piss house. I was like, I wouldn't have seen it. I didn't know. And once I get the ick, I see all of the things, and then I'm like, that's all I see. It's bad. But on the one of these girls said that, uh, so I've never slept with an uncircumcised person. Like I know they exist. I've never, I've actually never seen an uncircumcised penis in person. And this girl on this Rabbit posted that her ex never cleaned his uncircumcised penis, and then it smelt like dick cheese. And I almost threw up because I don't even want to imagine what that would smell like. And girls, like make sure your cooter's clean. Like fucking hygiene. People didn't. Just wash yourself. For the love of God. Just clean yourself.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Okay, your turn. Okay. So I went, um, yours. Yes. No. Yours were more like everyone in general, or women, I guess. Was yours women or just like?

SPEAKER_02 15:36

I just looked up what gave you the ick.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

I went into men's opinion on what gives them the ick with women. Yeah. And they're very much more like a little more tame than that. Um, a lot of it.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Just because women clean themselves more often than not.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Um, there is a theme though. So being a forever teenager when they're like 26 and obviously older. Honestly, that's grow up and clean your room already. It isn't cute anymore.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

That's kind of hygiene too, though. Fucking clean. Clean yourself, clean your space.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

That's fair. But the whole like acting younger than you are, definitely an ick on both sides, I think.

SPEAKER_00 16:19

Like not being a mature adult, just thinking it's cute to just do nothing.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Weaponized incompetence is an ick. Not being able to do basic things to take care of yourself is a big time ick for me. Like, what do you mean you don't know how to do laundry? You literally put it in a machine, put in soap, and press a button. It is the easiest fucking thing in the world. You know what I mean? Like, don't no. If you can't take care of yourself on your own, then you're looking for a mama and not a girlfriend and get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Yes. Okay, but remember this was a guy saying about a girl. Yeah, but it's it's both ways. They could go both ways. I think it's very much more prevalent for men to do nothing though.

SPEAKER_02 16:59

Unless it depends on if they were like spoiled as a as a daughter. If their dad did everything for them and set a realistic expectation for them, obviously a younger person too.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

I feel like the younger generation is more that way. They're just not as motivated. They're just they don't do as much, and every little inconvenience like halts their entire life. 100%. Like, do you remember when we would go out all night and then still go to work? Yeah. Yep. Or like I go out till 3 a.m.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

and then work six to six and then go back to the party.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

And I and I went to school full time. So like I was doing school and we'd go out and work. Yeah, so you just do all the fucking things. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

No, and that's fair because I do think I a lot of it has to do though, like the younger generations were helicotted. Like this whole this gentle parenting trend, I think, is a problem. You don't know that's because you already know gentle parenting.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

I know what that is, but I do not practice that.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

No, neither do I. But but I think that that leads into that where these people don't know how to take care of themselves because they didn't have to. They didn't have chores because they would cry and scream and say that they were being abused. Fucking do the dishes. You're not being abused.

unknown 18:13

Like, come on.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Like you are fine. Yep. Um, okay, along with those lines, just because that went really quickly. Uh actually, no, yeah, you go. We're gonna ping pong back and forth. Yours was just way more entertaining. Men are kind of lame in their answers.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

That's because I think for the most part, dudes sometimes like underplay when the girls are crazy. They either overplay or underplay. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Um This one goes along with that though. This one, it's a red flag if they have long fingernails because they're either not working or not doing work around the house.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

That's an unfair assumption. Because I have long fingernails and I do everything.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Oh, that's funny. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Um, this one says this was many years ago, but I had just started seeing this guy and I was really into him. We had just slept together for the very first time. The sex was great, however, right after we finished, he got up fully nude and joyfully did a karate kick in the air while letting out a really loud, nasty fart. He still had a wrecked dick helicoptering everywhere while the smell suddenly hit me. I was horrified. Instant ick.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

What the fuck is wrong with people?

SPEAKER_00 19:33

I want to be like time and place. Like, is that like your like first time you sleep with someone?

SPEAKER_02 19:39

No. A year into the relationship, sure. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Yeah, like I mean, it's it would just be something you don't do.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

You have like this mental image, yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Yes, and I'm just like oh, no.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

There's a lot of sexual things.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Why are women women are turned off by sexual things and men are just like, okay, let's go back.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

I think that's because dudes are more willing to do anything for sex, and girls are not. And I could be wrong. This is just my own personal experience with talking with people. I know some girls who do some nasty shit. Like, they're there for sure. Don't but like a lot of girls are more grossed out by by sexual stuff than dudes are. No, I think.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

I agree.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Um I will say, on a personal note, I have a giant ick, and I recently learned this that if you try to sleep with me with only a half chub, I instantly lose feelings for you forever.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

Who who had a half chub? Women. Every time. Well, there's many erections.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

Literally the worst I've ever had.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Can you like actually have an erection when you're just like on mushrooms all the time?

SPEAKER_02 20:46

I don't know, but don't try because it's I'm gonna look that up.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

I'm gonna look up if mushrooms affect your erection.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

All I know is, and it doesn't have to be mushrooms.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

Can we just talk about that?

SPEAKER_02 20:58

It is a term for a reason, right? If you get super messed up, don't think you can do it. Just don't. Just wait, sleep it off because coming at me and not being able to get fully hard is gonna make me, because I'm an insecure person, think it's my fault, and that's fucked up. And then I'm gonna instantly not be attracted to you anymore because you're not attracted to me. True or false, I don't care. But like that's where my brain goes. Like, you know what I mean? Plus, it's just like really fucked up to be laying there and they're just like, hold on, and they're like trying to shove shit in, and like the This is not working.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

I feel like you're missing foreplay.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Yeah, I haven't had that in a really long time because they do don't do that anymore.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Shove it in? No, they do.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Not in my experience. Not in my experience.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

In my experience, they do.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Although I will say, so uh Cowardly Lion was the last person to attempt that with me, and it it was bad to the point where I was just like, Can you be done now? So it's probably also partly my own fault because I don't know. I'm not very good at faking it. I get bored, and you're gonna know that I'm bored, especially because I'll be like, mm-hmm, yeah, that feels good.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Why do you even say that? I would just be like, Because I'm on a pleasant, they'll just move on.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

And it gets really weird when you because I tried just not, and then it it's so much more awkward to just be laying there in silence as this poor boy is trying so hard and getting nowhere. And I've tried directing. Don't think that I'm not getting involved because I feel like most people are gonna. Be like, that's on you because you need to fucking tell us where to go. I fucking did. Fucking did. I flat out when Lemon was like rubbing my left labia. I was like, dude, you're not there. That is not the right spot. And remember, his response to me was, This isn't for you. And I just shut up and let him be wrong and just laid there awkwardly until he decided that.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

You thought that was your clip.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Yeah. So yeah, sexual things can give me the ick. Okay. I'm sorry. I I will lose interest, and once I lose interest, it's over.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Do you not have sexual things that give you the ick? Um, I'm trying to Okay, remember that one time with the the man boob situation.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

Yeah, I do. Because you messaged me like immediately after. Then you're like, what do I do?

SPEAKER_00 23:28

I'm like, oh my god. Like I was like, that's why he wears a shirt all the time. I get it now. That's so funny. Yeah, I think that was just like being bigger and weight loss, and so that they were like basically or maybe I don't fucking know, because he was also still I don't know. There was just it felt like I was holding on to boobs. They were sloppy boobs. Yeah. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Which maybe if you were bi you'd be into it, but as a straight woman, you're like not my jam.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Was not, was not felt very awkward. That was no way you could have confused those with pecs. Like you you need to get those. Like it was so bad.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

Which is that because like there's icks that you can control, and there's icks that you can't control, and it sucks because like you can't like I mean technically you could, you could have surgery and you could fix that, but like it's not gonna be an ick for everyone.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Like you would have had to have a breast reduction, like as a guy going in a beating.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Maybe a small c. You remember? Yes, I remember.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

And like that's when you learn. I know I don't remember. One time I don't remember. Also, Johnny Bravo couldn't find the clip, just saying that.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

That was a really I you do remember when we had this conversation about you wonder what they teach in sex at in the boys' class. Nothing. Um, nothing. Yes, because so many dudes don't know anything about the female body. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Um remember when we talked about like maybe we're just asexual now and we don't even care? Yeah. You will care. You just find somebody like that cares. I found somebody that like, you know. Yeah. Um And all of a sudden it becomes important again. And you will find someone that I know.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

I I'm just one of those people that like, if I get it, I want it, and if I don't get it, I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

You know what I mean? Yeah. Once I go, once I hit like a sort of thing. Oh my god, we're like the same. It's weird getting it.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

You need to change the podcast name.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

I have brought that up so many times, and you're like, no, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Maybe we should.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

We're 40. Not even yet. Don't even say that. You're closer to shit. You have like two months. I know. Mean. I know. Okay, this one made me laugh really hard, and I would also get the ick from it. He cut his toenails with a razor blade, and then he would wait until they but he purposely waited until they were so long that they curled over the tops of his toes before he would do it.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

I didn't even know that could happen.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Why would you use a razor blade?

SPEAKER_00 26:12

And why would you wait for them to curl on top of your toes? That's how you get a weird foot.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Same, same girl, another guy I dated, cut his toenails, saved up the clippings for months, clued them to a bouquet of roses, and then gave me the roses on Valentine's Day. He thought it was the funniest thing ever. What is wrong with people?

SPEAKER_00 26:40

What about a toenail says romance? That is so gross. That's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. One of the most disgusting things I've heard today.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

There's a movie called, I think it's called Cheaters, and has Devin Sawa in it. And in the movie, um, one of the characters, like, he has a big old crush on this girl, and so he goes around and he collects all of her stray hair, and then he makes like a little fucking hair doll and carries it around with him and like talks to it.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

It's what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 27:12

I know crazy, crazy, scary shit.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

I'm gonna have to stop. My hair falls out everywhere. That's weird. That scares me.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

If you don't ever have to clean your hair up, maybe be concerned. No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

I'm joking. Okay, this one says being broke for men, talking about women, being broke, but still having hair extensions, fake nails, lip filler. Like, holy hell, get some priorities in your life. Okay, there was that's fair. That one is, but then not even to that point, same thing says too much makeup, face piercing, not like fake nails, like apparently nails, hair extensions, all the fake things. Red fake.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

But that's not everybody.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

That's not everybody. No, that's just these men on Reddit.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

But I I will say that girls care way more about that stuff than dudes do overall.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

If we necessarily do it for them.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

No, we do it for other girls. Because they're the ones cheating.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

I do like to look good for my man, though. I'm just saying. I'm sticky right now. But yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

I don't want him to be embarrassed because I look like a goblin. Like you get that at home, but like in public, I'm gonna make an effort so you can actually be like proud to show me off.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

I I a lot of the time do like no makeup though, because I'm at the gym all day. Like it's just yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

When I do, it's like a little bit of concealer so I don't look like I got punched in the face, and then some mascara, and I call it good.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Okay, so high maintenance is one on here, and I was reading all I'll just summarize. So I'm reading all the things? No, because I take care of myself. Yes. If I feel like I expect somebody else to take care of me or you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm even in charge of a little me now, and it's really scary. I'm glad I have voice. No, because I take care of myself. I think if I were in a relationship and I was like expecting my boyfriend to pay for all of all my things, then you'd be high maintenance. Yes, yep. But also it's funny. So being high maintenance because they like in like talking about a car, right? Like you don't want to have to put maintenance on it all the time. Because when they're high maintenance, then it's always going in for maintenance. Yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

That's fair. And also, let's be real. There are some girls out there that expect a man to pay for literally everything before they're even like officially dating. Like, I read some crazy ass stories about like these girls are mad. They're like, he wouldn't even pay for my babysitter to take me on a date. No, ma'am. That is not his responsibility. He is not your man. It's a date. Like, what is you're crazy? That's weird. Right? Oh, it's some girls out there. I feel very disconnected sometimes because I'm like, Is it because we just like do our own?

SPEAKER_00 29:57

I don't know. Which is so weird because we're so like traditional.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

I know please take care of me. I do everything.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Well, no, it's like I think that we just contribute and don't expect anything. Is that I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

I I'm very big on like if I invite you out, I should pay. You know, like there or even like every third or every fourth or something.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

You know what's funny? What? We follow these rules.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

I know. We're not dating. I saw that fucking look.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

I am in a relationship. I'm not actually trying to pick you up. I know, but it is so funny, and I'm gonna do it forever. We're we were out the other day, and what did I say? And I was like, what was it? I don't remember now, but I was like, I don't know why you're asking me.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Like, I would know. We went out to breakfast.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

We did, it was really good. And I said something. I said something, and I was like, or you said something, and it was so funny because about us being married, and you're like, Heather, no. But it was like so funny because the way I slide it in sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Yes, because that's what makes it funny, because it's not like it's not like it's a bit. It's literally we'll be having a normal fucking conversation, and you find a way to make it relevantly slip in, and it's just and then you'll just keep going and then like see if I catch it. And I always do.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

Like, so that means we're getting married, right? And you're gonna marry me. Or is there basic It's not happening? No, okay. You did say by 40 though.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

I did not, you did. I think we did. No.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

I did have 40 seemed a lot longer ago. I didn't know. 40 seemed so much longer ago. It's months. We have months. Like when Luke died, I was 34. I felt like 40 was so long ago, and here we are. Yeah. Right around the corner.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

I did have a pact with a friend that if neither of us were married by 40, we would get 40, and then the motherfucker got married. Like, dude! You're talking about me. You're talking about me. I am not.

unknown 32:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Your stuff is yours.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Okay, so those were the those were the ones that I specifically yeah. So then I wrote down one I realized that I have. Um, and it's kind of a long list. Inappropriate relationships with friends or family. You know what I mean? Like, if I don't like it when dudes are like, this is my female best friend, and I'm gonna put her first. Like, excuse me, no, absolutely fucking not. I agree with that. And some dudes like it's important to me because I have a good relationship with my boys. I it's important to me that you have a good relationship with your mother, but like to the line. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of boys that cross that line, and I don't necessarily blame the boys because a lot of times it's the mom's fault. She raced him into that weird type of relationship, but like it's uncomfortable to like see a dude and his mom be really like overly touchy-feely, you know what I mean? Or if she's like really protective and you're not like doing anything to like stop that and make me be spoken to some sort of way, and you just let it happen.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

Like when Johnny Bravo stole all my stuff and then his mom called. Yeah, yeah, that's an inappropriate relationship with your mommy. Oh, and then his dad came over and tried to let me have that. That's an inappropriate relationship with every yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Like stuff like that, red flag, ick instantly. Like, I don't want it. I don't want to be around it because I don't want to be competing for the number one spot in your life. You know what I mean? Like, I respect the fact that like when my boys get married, like I'm number two now. And when they have children, I go down the line for you know what I mean? Like, that's the nature, that's how it should be.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

I think for you, your boys, you're always gonna be number one by the way. I know I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Um I will encourage them to treat their wife correctly, and I will be respectful of their relationship unless you break my son's heart and then it's fair fucking game.

unknown 34:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Yeah. I'll help. Perfect. Um, I was gonna be Oh, all I was gonna say is we talked about this in the previous episode, but I agree with it. Does give me the it also when you put like if I'm you just should treat me higher. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

Yeah. Like on a pedestal in comparison to the other females in your life.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

I'm not like, oh, you can't talk to I I'm not like that.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

I don't get like a line between our relationship and that relationship. Someone who doesn't know who you're dating and we're all in a room should leave that room knowing who you're dating. Exactly. No, exactly. And that's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

That's a really good one because for me, if I start to feel weird, it's really hard for me to turn it around. You know this.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

No, I put this on here. Um, it's kind of like that. Hold on, I gotta find it.

SPEAKER_00 35:01

But I literally not that I I don't turn it around.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

I guess I've uh I put like when you're trying to constantly show off for others or purposely make me jealous, I will get the ick because it's like, why are you doing that's such a manipulative tactic. Like, why are you doing that? Like, if you're one way at home and then an entirely different person in public, that to me is like sketchy.

unknown 35:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Do you anything? Yeah, yeah. I don't like that. Yeah, not being authentic. Yeah. Always. I think we're just so authentic. The whole idea of that I'd be like so terrible.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

You know what you're getting with me. Same. There's no doubt.

SPEAKER_00 35:42

And you can also listen to the other versions of us. Go back to podcasts circa 2021. Yes, please do. 2020. Yes. I keep trying to say we're older than we're well, actually, because we had another podcast and then we switched to this one, so this one's only It throws you off. Yes. Um, but anyways, no. Since 2020. Go listen to those ones, another version of us.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Along those same lines, I can't stand it if somebody constantly plays pranks, whether it's on me or other people.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

I have not had this before that that would annoy the fuck out of me.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Right? Drives me crazy crazy.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

I'm just joking. Everything is just joking.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

I'm just joking. I'm just like using I'm just joking as an excuse to insult me, like fuck off. I'm all for bantering and I'm all for giving getting it as good as you get. And I roast people. I love roasty. I roast you all the fucking. I roast you right back. And you roast me back, and it's like it's banter and it's acceptable, right? But like just saying something mean, and then when someone doesn't respond to it in kind and they're like, excuse the fuck out of me, and then you're like, oh, I'm just joking, I'm just no the fuck you aren't. Like, ew, you're a gross person.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

You really are.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

I will instantly no longer be attracted to you, even if I was hella attracted to you before. It just shuts off like a fucking switch.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Um, what gives me the that just reminded me um the ick with my kids saying sorry. I'm like, no, you're not, because you've done it a million times.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Yeah, saying sorry and then not following up.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

Just like always doing and then continually doing the same thing over and over again that you keep saying sorry for. I'm like, you know what would mean that you're not sorry is you don't fucking do it again.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Yeah. I categorize that as yes, same. And lying is like my biggest pet peeve. Oh, that was gonna be my ick. Yeah. My biggest pet peeve.

SPEAKER_00 37:30

Lying in any capacity. Any capacity. Also, I'm gonna say this one, ick. I am not like uh that kind of goes along to the other one that you were saying. I'm gonna hit back like the attention thing.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Like, I'm not weird or big on social media, but don't be out there liking other girls' photos and not liking my fucking photos. I'm just saying that's weird. Posting about me. Well, honestly, that bothers me. Okay, so I like kind of I don't know, because privacy is good, but people need to know.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

Yes. Oh yeah. No, definitely agree. Definitely agree. I think I just got with traumatized from being so public, but sure, everybody knows.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Um see, and mine's opposite. I got traumatized by being a secret. So now I'm like, I need you to post about me. I need our pro your profile picture to have me fucking in it, at least until we're established so that people know that we're a thing. Because I was hidden away for two and a half years, you know what I mean? So it it was something that wouldn't have bothered me before, but because of my trauma, it bothers me now.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

I always think like when is the right time now? I'm like, do you hard launch now? Do you just soft launch? Do you let it like? Because now I feel like it's gone. Now I feel like my situation's gone on so long, it's like, wait a minute, all of it's kind of strange now.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Everybody knows, but like I know, but like it's not like they don't because it's not.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

But they yes, which is like so it's hard. I remember I like kind of brought up.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

I don't know what the rules around that are anymore.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

Neither one of us, like we've talked about it. I don't think either one of us has an issue doing it, but none of us have neither one of us like pulled the trigger.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

You have you don't even have it marked that you're in a relationship.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Well, no, that was gonna be the first step, right? I was like, should we at least because like I'm not really like I don't know, I'm like in off season right now, so I'm like pictures, anyways. I just haven't done a lot of social media, so I don't think like a post, like I think that's fucking weird. But yeah, do you like in a relationship? I would definitely, I just we haven't done it. Yeah. But like that's another like because I think that's important at a certain point.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

But also that goes with an ick on the other end of that spectrum is posting too much when it you know what I mean, when it makes it feel forced, and then you just I would not want it to be yes, no force know that something's going on behind the scenes. You know what I mean? Yeah, so like if somebody started posting a lot, I would instantly, and that's not even getting the ick like towards a person. That's like I'll get an ick towards a couple that I'm not even involved in, and I'll be like, ooh, that's icky. Do you start like you're like oh, I totally start paying attention because I know it's gonna implode and I want to see it happen, but but that's just because of you know, it's human nature to want to watch things implode. This is why I love reality TV. Yeah, you do. I do too, but different, but it's it does spark the I don't know. I like knowing things, I like knowing all the fucking things.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Same. Well, no, I think my need for like the is less than yours, but we yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

I love it. Big ick talking about their ex constantly or being compared to someone's it or ex. I read one of these, and the girl was like, I was on a first date with a dude and he was talking about his ex a lot and decided to show me a photo, and she's like, guys, it looked exactly like me. I was like, Yeah, that's scary. That's definitely an ick. I would have ran. I would have been like, Are you trying to like replace her with me? Cause like I'm not her.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Like, you definitely have a type.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

I do too. I just don't date it. I feel like I don't. Don't have a type? Uh-huh. A little bit. Like, you want somebody that's physically fit, somebody that understands your world. So I mean, that's definitely a type. I don't think you go so far as like physical characteristics outside of that. No. But you definitely like they gotta be a part of the gym world that you are not interested instantly. If like a little scrawny dude came up to you that had never stepped foot in a gym, I think you would you would get the ick just by that. If you asked them, have you ever been to a gym and their answer is no, you would get the ick.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Yeah, if you don't, I don't know. Yeah, because have you seen me? I would look like okay. I could not. You would look like their personal body. Yes, and especially right now in off-season. Fuck. Oh my god. That would look so weird. I would look like a freaking meatball next to them. A meatball with legs.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

No, you're not. A meatball with legs. It's so funny to me how like the way that you see yourself is just wrong. Literally, anyway.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

I should ask ChatGPT to make me a bodybuilder that looks like a meatball with wellness legs.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

That's well. I will draw you a meatball with legs. It can be your new mascot.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Right now, my off-season logo. Oh my god, no, but my off-season, yes, my before the meatball, and then after the little chicken wig. I'm real I'm gonna I'm gonna draw you a meatball.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

I'm gonna do it. And then we'll post a meatball.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

I'm gonna draw you as a meatball. We do need to make okay, side note, we need to make pop characters of ourselves. Um I know, that'd be fun. Okay, we should go some more icks we can do.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Okay, so I the I listed a couple icks that I didn't know existed until they happened to me. And now they're icks. Um, one of them, do not put your finger in my mouth while I'm yawning.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Who's done that to you?

SPEAKER_02 43:03

Me and my sister were at Curly's for New Year's Eve, and there was this cute boy that let us sit at his table, and we were hanging out and having a grand old time.

SPEAKER_00 43:15

Do you think he's autistic because he does it?

SPEAKER_02 43:17

I yawned and he stuck his fucking finger in my mouth, and Jen was all like, your face instantly changed. And I went, because I went from fucking interested to I'm gonna murder you in like 0.2 seconds. Do not put your finger in my mouth. I didn't know that that was something that I felt so strongly about, but I do.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

Because that's disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

You're a stranger. I don't know where your hands been. We're in a bar. Are you seeing it?

SPEAKER_00 43:43

Yeah, you that's gross.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

Ew. I don't even want I don't want anyone still ask me for my phone number after that.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

I don't even put my finger in my mouth.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

I know! Why would you? I haven't since middle school. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

I don't even touch my face. I don't even touch my face because the amount of germs that can be like Oh god, I touch my face all the time. Don't.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

I can't help it. I it I itch. You have to I have dry eyes, and so I'm constantly rubbing my eyes to tr purposely try to get them to water so that they don't hurt.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

Why don't you put drops in them?

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Because I don't ever remember to buy them.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

Do you want some eye drops? I have some.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

I do, actually. When we're done with this, I I almost needed some because I was laughing so hard. I'm wearing tubing mascara and it's like getting in my eye.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

I love tubing mascara because it's so easy to take off.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

Yes, and it looks great, but it gets wet from my laughing till I cry and Then it's like in my eyeball.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

I don't have that problem. Because I can I dry cry sometimes because that's how dry my fucking eyes are.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

No, I use Lumify every day because that shit makes your eyeballs bright and white and I just love it.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Oh, I definitely want to try that.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Um so can we just say my I want another one of your icks. Cuffed capri pants. That's so fair. Oh my god. Honestly, capri pants, men or women. It's a weird thing that happens. And why are we cuffing them? Why is it?

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Are we waiting for a flood?

SPEAKER_02 45:10

I own one single pair of capris, and every time I'm like, I can do this. And I put them on, and I'm like, you look so stupid in the mirror. Like, I'll look at myself, like to try to come. They're super comfy. They're really nice. They make my butt look chef's kiss. I can't wear them because I literally feel like I look like I don't know how to pick clothes. It's a weird length. It's a weird length. It is. That was like a thing a long time ago. Yeah, for a long time. And then they went away. Let's leave them. No more capri pants. No. It doesn't look right on anybody.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

And no man should wear jean capri pants.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

If his jeans are tighter than yours, it's not good.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

Okay, anyways, that is definitely an ick and yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

Um I put telling me that my sister is hot. Don't be trying to hit on me and then tell me my sister is hot. Instantly, mm-mm. Nope, no longer interested. Thank you, sir. Next. And that has happened on multiple occasions. And they're always confused why all of a sudden I'm not interested anymore. Like they don't know what they did. And I'm like, really?

unknown 46:24

Really?

SPEAKER_00 46:26

That's an odd one.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

I know, and it happens a lot because I have a hot sister. Like, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

That's basically like saying your friend's hot.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

No, that's different.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

No, that's different.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

To me, I mean, still not great.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

They're not great, but still not great if they're I'm just playing devil's advocate. Maybe in their mind if they're like because the sister is like obviously off limits, so I can say that.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

No!

SPEAKER_00 46:50

No, but you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 46:51

No. And you know what? And this might be something for me specifically.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

No one would ever say your friend is hot, but people, I feel like I've heard guys say you're still hot. Okay, I see where you're going. I see where you're going. But I've never heard any like, you know what I mean? So maybe they're just fucking stupid. Which can go along with the point that there was an article that was just released that said that men, men's frontal lobes, do not fully develop. We thought it was like 40.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

I thought it was 43. In their 50s. Apparently they've updated the study and they're like, it's getting worse, ladies. And it's getting worse out there.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

It just says 50s. So it could be 51, it could be 59 or above.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

And I will say this could be one that is specific to me, but I have literally have dudes try to get with me, and then when it doesn't work out, then try to get with my sister, and then when she's like, ooh, gross, no, you you fucked around with my sister, like it's a it's an instant no, gentlemen. Instant fucking no. Sisters don't share like that. Not ones that actually speak to each other. That's weird. And then come back and try to get with me, and then it's happened three times in my life. I feel like we need three separate men.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

We need another episode with Jen. I know. Jed has notes part two. I know. I have questions.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

I have questions. That's really what we should call it.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

I have questions.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

Okay, so but yes, so for me, that like don't tell me my sister's hot because I mm I just can't. Don't tell me my well, don't tell me my friend's hot either, actually. Like I wouldn't enjoy that either. I don't feel like you shouldn't. I think it depends on I think that one depends on context. Don't ever tell me my sister's hot ever. But my friend depends on context. Because like if I'm talking you up and I'm like, isn't she so fucking hot? You better be like, yeah. But don't just out of nowhere be like, dude, did you ever notice your friend's super hot? Like, yes, now you can go. You know what I mean? So context matters.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

Yeah, because like hearing, yeah, hearing like the person you're interested in commenting on someone else's looks.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

It's just to me, it's the same difference as you liking. Beautiful or anything like that. The same difference is liking someone's photos. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 49:16

It's all in the same and liking photos is fine in general. Okay, I just made like is I've yeah, where it's like, oh, you don't exist on social media, but I sh have liked other people's photos, and I just think that's weird. Like, how are you on social liking other things, but you couldn't even like you don't like my things.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

You're not posting my things, but you're liking that. That's a little weird. And it also depends on that's a little weird. Again, it goes to content. Like, what are you liking? Are you liking their like family photo or oh, they went on vacation, you know, whatever? Are you liking a half naked photo? Are you liking the selfies when you know that it's just that girl trying to get attention? You know what I mean? Like, are you feeding into somebody's ego on purpose? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, the reasoning behind it, man. And what is your connection to that girl? Is it your cousin? That's safe. Unless you're no.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Did you hear our last did you hear our last the Brazil thing? They got married and had a child. Do you remember that? Yes, I do. Things like that stick. All right. Well, okay, so mine, okay, like my biggest ones, honestly, they just come more to like values and stuff. Like, if you lie to me, ick, I could never see you the same. I feel like given my history, I have been able to look beyond a lot of icks. But um we're getting better. Oh, we're getting so much better. It's it would really be like lying, making me feel like, or you know, just not appreciated, or what is it, like doing things to not you kind of touched on this, like making me not feel reassured or unvalidated in any sort of way like that would be out, but really just look at the honesty. I think that's a really big one. Communication, like not having a conversation, like if you tried to have a conversation and they shut down and or like flip the script.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Well, not being able to have a conversation, I think that's huge because like you need to. I don't want to just have small talk with you for the rest of my life. Like, no, I want to know the deep in-depth shit. And if you're not willing to be vulnerable like that, then like what's the point?

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Like oh my god, biggest ick I never even talk about. I never okay. If you ever fucking smoked a cigarette, I could not do that. That would be ever smoke, but currently smoke. But currently smoke. Like, if you ever currently smoke.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

Honestly, that's fair because I didn't know that that was gonna be an ick for me because I'm an ex-smoker, right? I smoked for 16 years. Yes, but like But I haven't February 27th will be eight years since I've had a cigarette. Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

I don't ever, yeah, the smell, like, no, nothing.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

So when me and Lemon first started dating, first date, he told me that he smoked cigarettes, and he's like, is that gonna be a problem for you? And I was like, I don't think so. Oh my god, I learned within two days, I was like, Yes, this is gonna be a problem for me. Like, which is uh it made me feel like a hypocrite because I smoked for so long, and I'm like, it's not fair, but literally, I can't do it now. The smell, and I I didn't realize I smelt like that. Like, you know, because people tell you, but like you don't smell it, so you don't know until you quit. And then you're like, that's god awful. I'm so sorry to everybody that I was around that I smell like that because it's bad. It's bad. Yeah, it's not great, and it's hard to get around if you don't also smoke. All right, so I think that covered our icks. I have one more. Oh, and this is like a first date ick. Like instantly, do not ask me what I bring to the table. Oh, you know what I mean? Because like it to me, the way that makes me feel like you automatically think that you're superior to me and I have to prove my worth to you. Excuse me, and don't don't virtue signal and don't try to make me feel bad for having opposing views, and don't mansplain something to me, and don't act like you know, I know I'm going off on the tangent now, but don't act like you know more about a subject that we both know I know more about me that all all of that comes across as disrespect. Yeah, you know what I mean? And like, so I guess I could have just said don't disrespect. I've never had anyone ask me that. Really? Yeah. Well, you don't go on a lot of first dates. No, I've been on a lot. Probably not really, but like it feels like it. Yeah, I guess I've got enough to wear like I get like snatched up. Yeah, you do. Yeah. It's different. Let's be real. We have I get the interest level alone. Very different, very different. Because you look like that, and that's your face all the time, and this is mine. Oh, and I'm this all the time. This is a little different.

SPEAKER_00 54:11

I mean, we're off seasoning right now.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

I'm off season all the time. Actually, there's no, I haven't been on season since before landscaper, so that's or cowardly lion type guy. So how long has that been? Three landscaping cowardly lions. Landscaping cowardly lion. Both apply. I'm dead. That's my little tangent. A lot of icks. I didn't realize I had so many until you know, like, we should talk about icks. And I was all like, I don't think I have that many, and then I went on a roll.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

But that's good, also, right? Because we I used to date anybody, and now I'm like, no, don't do these things. If you do these things, don't more.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Progress. Yeah, my hard pass would be like any doing any drugs of any kind. So I guess you also need to include uh mushrooms on there.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

I attract I attract addicts. Addicts attract addicts. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

Yeah. It's a problem. I've never I haven't had that experience.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Oh, that's all that I've dated. I've dated alcoholic, drug addict, alcoholic, alcoholic, drug addict. That's my dating history. We have to be fair, I didn't know all of them were those things before at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 55:37

You know they hid it from you.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Yeah. But I did find out, and that wasn't an immediate stoppage. But it would be now.

unknown 55:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

Progress is progress. That's actually the saying that I put on the back of my AA coins. Progress is progress. You get AA coins? I I get special made AA coins because I don't go to AA. Yes. But I want I'm cheesy. I want the I want the one year and the two years. You can buy them. Yeah, you can just buy them on Amazon and have them custom made. So yes, I have I have my one, two, three, and then I get my four in April. Yay. I love that. I'll be on a boat.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

Scary. Have you watched poop cruise?

SPEAKER_02 56:24

No, and I'm not going to before I go on my cruise. You should. No, no. No! Don't you do? Don't you ruin this for me? I need a break, Heather.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Just so you can be aware. I need a vacation.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

And I don't want to think about poop those. Why do you have to ruin nice things?

SPEAKER_00 56:44

I know like the ending of this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Stop it!

SPEAKER_00 56:47

Well, on that note, besties, we will talk to you next week. Clean yourself. Basically, that's the we got from this pod.