The Wise Mind Happy Hour
Two therapists musing about the idea of an inner wise mind and how to connect with this psychic space in different contexts.
The Wise Mind Happy Hour
is it wise to have a podcast
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another mini episode - apologies for all of this MINIATURE BROADCASTING 🌟🌟🌟 we explore how wise it is to have a podcast 🏋️♀️🏋️🏋️♂️ please feel free to weigh in 👍
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Introducing the broadcast wisdom question
Speaker 1today we have a mini episode of how wise is it? And our topic as and you all know, I'm kelly- oh, hey, kelly with john, it's john mini episode, so it's a mini intro. Um, basically our how wise is it is we're talking about? We were thinking of doing how wise is it to have a podcast, and now we're thinking more generally how wise is it to, on some platform, broadcast your thoughts out into the world your instagram, your tiktok, your youtube channel, a radio show, snapchat, a blog, my snapchat, wikipedia.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, I lean Blog.
Speaker 1MySpace Snapchat Text message yeah.
Speaker 2I mean I lean Fine, Not wise, but I'm making a podcast so, so you're living in that tension. I'm living in the tension. I've never been on social media.
Speaker 1Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2That's a flex Humble brag, yeah, humble brag right. That's.
Speaker 3Arrogant brag yes, brag yeah that's arrogant.
Speaker 2Brag, yes, very humble, no. Um. So that's like very foreign to me, yeah, to put myself out there and I feel like I've been a very private person in that way, and so this has been a very enriching experience for a lot of things, but it's also been scary to like hear myself talk about some personal things. So I'm not saying it's not wise, it's definitely like getting me to think about things differently and like putting myself out there in different ways. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think doing the podcast, though, has felt like a wise decision, because I feel like I've grown a lot from doing it and we haven't even been doing it a long time.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know we haven't done that, but yeah, tell us how, how you feel like it's helped you grow I feel like it's like a practice in um for are you okay?
Speaker 3yeah, I just banged the mic, not wise, not wise. Knee on the mic.
Speaker 2Um, I feel like it's helped me get out of a little bit of my comfort zone of like keeping some of these thoughts just kind of like to myself and and also like grown and taking a chance on like putting opinions out there that like I might be judged for or you know people might be like what is he talking about?
Speaker 2so I feel like it's built up some maybe resiliency and grown in that way yeah of like trying not to yeah try not to care as much you know, and just like truly say how I feel and be honest.
Personal growth through public sharing
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think it's like. I mean, I I've never been a huge social media poster, but I definitely consume social media and, like outside of like media, I'm constantly broadcasting my thoughts to like basically anyone who will listen. But I do agree with you that I think putting it in the podcast format it's vulnerable and you have to like own some of your beliefs and like be willing to be wrong.
Speaker 1Yeah, Be, willing to be judged and hopefully, at the end of it, still accept yourself and accept that. Yeah, maybe I'll turn some people off, maybe I'll say something that's wrong straight up and wrong information.
Speaker 1Can I sit with that? Can I risk that for maybe the value of learning and engaging and, yeah, talking about topics that interest me and inviting others to listen and contribute and and and hearing your thoughts and you know cause I, on a gut level, I know I've really enjoyed doing this, it's great and I've definitely learned a lot and and yeah, just from these conversations, like we used to have when we shared an office, kind of spitballing and having it be less polished, is where a lot of like discovery comes in and and a self-understanding.
Speaker 1That is like happening in real time and kind of constellating in real time. So I think it's great. But we're also speaking from the ones doing the broadcasting, because I will sometimes watch a tiktok of someone like talking about their day or something and I'm like who needs this shit? You know, keep this one to yourself yeah which is like the whole point of tiktok, is like telling everyone things you normally keep to yourself. But yeah, I do have moments where I'm just like yeah, nobody needed this one, you know.
Speaker 2Like sure not wise. They're not all gems they're not all gems. They're not all.
Speaker 1Gems, yeah, or pearls, wait there was some band that their greatest hits album was they Can't All Be Zingers, which I love yeah, they're naked ladies.
Speaker 3Was that it? I don't know, but that would be funny.
Speaker 1They Can't All Be Zingers. They Can't All Be Zingers, they're just funny.
Speaker 2They're just a funny name they can't all be zingers yeah um I think it's also wise in the sense of like it's led to more connection with you two like which has been great like and also like vj like having when we had our first guest on like, also getting back connected with like people that maybe you're connected with in different ways, like maybe through text or you know you go out to dinner but I think it's it's led to a different kind of connection. I'm not saying it's better, it's just like yeah, it's been really meaningful.
Speaker 1Totally, totally. I don't think I would have had that conversation necessarily with BJ, or even you and I have these conversations regularly enough Unless there's kind of a reason or like a container that's demanding that which is so nice. What do you think, josh?
When sharing becomes cringe-worthy
Speaker 3Yeah, no, I think a podcast is social and it's kind of we're basically we're hanging out and rambling and recording ourselves and I feel like a lot of the time it's therapeutic. I think a lot of the time hearing the two of you talk will give me insights into my life. Or Kelly will specifically talk about like arguments we've had and like have perspective that we didn't necessarily arrive at in the moment. And yeah, I guess I wouldn't equate like how wise is it with how interesting are we to listen to, cause I think that's like ultimately up to the listener but I think it's different from having a Tik TOK or a Facebook where it's this like curated page that you're really trying to like refine an image versus like.
Speaker 3I am editing these episodes full, full disclosure, but I'm not editing them too much and for the most part they're pretty raw and it's kind of just what we say and we're uploading it online and, like you know, we're like looking at how many plays it has.
Speaker 1I guess we're big in south africa I think we didn't tell john that we got an email that our podcast is popular in south africa and the philippines really yeah and we tried to check out the source and it seemed legit.
Speaker 3We got an email that our podcast is popular in South Africa and the Philippines. Really yeah.
Speaker 1And we tried to check out the source and it seemed legit. What?
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 1It's called like pod searcher or something.
Speaker 2Really.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's interesting. Like relatively popular in those two countries.
Speaker 2In the category we were in, which was like entertainment, I can't wait till we do a tour and live shows. I know In those two places we need more.
Speaker 3South African friends.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, I have so many South African friends.
Speaker 3It would be incredible, but I think I guess that's my long way of saying I haven't really been looking into the stats. I mean, I just got that email and then sometimes Kelly will say like oh, we have over 100 downloads. But I think for the most part I'm really just enjoying the process. And it would be great if this was a tertiary form of income for us, but I think it's fun. It's a fun excuse to hang out and talk about stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And I'm really enjoying it. So I think, I think what's not wise whether it's a podcast or social media or anything is to become like too obsessed with the, the outcome and your stats.
Speaker 1What are my?
Speaker 3stats. How am I ranked right? How popular am I? Am I everyone's favorite? Versus just like oh, this is fun to do yeah, that, that was their premise, yeah.
Speaker 2That was the intention. The intention was always to engage in this and just do it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And just like.
Speaker 1See what comes.
Speaker 2See what comes of it and then yeah, that'll be whatever it is, but the process of it has been, I feel, very fulfilling. And there are times, though, I will say that my emotion mind will be like oh my god, is this gonna be on the internet forever?
Speaker 1yeah, oh totally.
Doing it for the process, not stats
Speaker 2And then I'm like oh my god, my kids, when they're 18, are gonna be like my dad's, my dad's got this archive of like these shows that he did and he was talking about this. So sometimes my mind will go to those places. Still wise to do a podcast, I feel, but sometimes my like when I'm alone with those emotion-minded thoughts yeah, like it feels like almost like I'm cringing for my kids a little bit a hundred percent.
Speaker 1I mean I'm cringing for unborn children yeah, you know like, like, just yeah, it's like, or even them being like yeah, my mom, I guess, is like a podcaster and people being like interesting yeah, yeah, she uses a lot of hair stuff yeah, yeah, we like learn all about her like hair stuff or her like tragedy with eyebrow dye or you know, embarrassed. That was tragic though it was, it was traumatic, totally tragic yeah but that's.
Speaker 2That's the thing where you know is pushing through the there's growth, I mean, there's the right, like people are going to think what they're going to think right, and but the, the growth that I feel that's come from it, or the fulfillment, is much more potent and worthwhile yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1I think it's wise and especially because, like our premise really is, like we enjoy these kinds of conversations. It's interesting. You get to flex your muscle of editing I get to flex my real muscles yeah, josh, yeah, flexing this whole episode, yeah, yeah no one can see because I'm off.
Speaker 3I like it shirts off.
Speaker 2Shirts off I like it shirt optional.
Speaker 1Well, but I think that's also.
Speaker 2You know, I think we talk about what's meaningful to us, yeah, and so that's what makes this meaningful is. I think we're trying to tap into like we. I don't think we would, I mean, we would maybe venture into like a topic that is like, yeah, I don't know how I feel about that, but if it wasn't like somewhat meaningful, I don't think we would just like do a topic yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1Find one that always, find one that resonates, and yeah at least hit something you know and even if it is not as like clinical of a topic right like wise mind can come into so much yeah and yeah, I think it's always interesting to talk about that stuff with you. I enjoy it and I always said, if no one ever listens, I think it still sounds fun right and interesting and worth doing maybe that's the wisest.
Speaker 3Yes, if no one listens yes, like doing it well.
Speaker 1That's the seed of values right doing it for the sake of its value, alignment and letting go of what it yields yeah, if a tree falls in the woods that would be wow what.
Speaker 2I'm sure this is not a unique premise by any means, but what if this was like a thing where we had no idea that josh was not posting these like this? This?
Speaker 3was like a book.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly where it was like we just have this catalog yeah I'm not posting them, but we have broadcasting them to another planet.
Speaker 3It's learning about our species.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's like we don't know, but we just keep going. We keep going through this exercise of like doing these conversations, thinking, yeah, they're being put out somewhere, but really it's just a put on his scheme to have us.
Speaker 1We're just like my shame, yeah, yeah, my shame.
Speaker 3Josh is shame.
Speaker 2I would still do it.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, totally.
Speaker 2Even if we weren't posting them.
Creating content for love not views
Speaker 1I would too, and I bet you I mean I don't have like the numbers on this but I bet you the content creators that do it more for the love of the practice and getting your own thoughts out, even laughing at their own jokes or whatever, probably garner like a stronger following Ironically do have better results when they more are in it for the love of the game, and you know it's more pure in that way, instead of like what are people going to respond to the most you know right, more being like what's on my mind right this week, or you know what thing am I loving and want to talk about right?
Speaker 2or what, what news story caught my attention and I'll break it down for my audience you know, or whatever I think it's also wise to just not like be so clinical or theoretical like it's. It's wise to, I feel as a therapist, to just be more human and totally talk about how this stuff impacts us as humans and the struggles we have, and yeah and yeah, maybe we have a little bit more insight due to training or things like that. But like, we're just, we're human too and we're struggling.
Speaker 1So yeah, and a lot of that training ultimately helps us have, like insight into ourselves and that kind of transfers to our clients that would be the hope yeah, totally so. We solved it.
Speaker 2It's absolutely wise to be content creator to broadcast your thoughts yeah, and to be huge in south africa, shout out that social media.
Speaker 1To be huge in South Africa, shout out to those people that are hopefully right now listening.
Speaker 2I mean that just feels, that just really. I didn't know this, you all just said that and that just makes me feel warm inside.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, I felt that too.
Speaker 2That we have like a niche little pocket, I know, that it was even discovered.
Speaker 3Please reach even discovered.
Speaker 2Please reach out to us and let us know what we're doing right what we're doing.
Speaker 3Email. We'd love to hear from you 100. Reach out to us where we should stay, if we visit, yeah, where we should, or where we could record the live. Yeah, yeah, the live show the local am spaces, yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 1I would love to do a live episode at some point we'll do one sounds great, we gotta do one we gotta do We've got to do one.
Speaker 3We've got to do that. Those are always your least favorite episodes.
Speaker 1Oh, when I listen to podcasts yeah, but I'd still love to do one. I've gone to one and I loved it, so going is great. Yeah, I went to one.
Speaker 2I went to two. I've been to two get made I did. How did this get made? That was a long time ago, but even before that there was a podcast. Who knows if it's even a podcast anymore. It probably is. I went to it because my cousin really wanted to go and it was in chicago. Uh, never, not funny, or something like that.
Speaker 1It was like a comedy.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, it was like a comedy podcast I think his name was jim Jimmy Pardo or something like that.
Speaker 1Oh yes, Maybe. Yeah, he's a comedian.
Speaker 2Yeah, so yeah, it was. And I was like actually at that time it was such a long time ago I was like what are we doing again there? And he was like trying to explain like a live recording of a podcast. I was like that sounds terrible.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was super funny.
Speaker 2And then yeah, how did this get made?
Speaker 1Yeah, I think some podcasts solve that issue by they don't air the live episodes, they just air the studio episodes and then the other ones are just for fun. But we can always decide that what?
Speaker 3we want to do.
Speaker 1We'll probably be airing them live, live on tour live on tour.
Speaker 2Live on tour, tour shirts, tour bus, tour shirts, tour bus.
Speaker 1We've got the stickers groupies we got the stickers. We've got the other therapists groupies my kids along with us, it's gonna be great our blood relatives. We're gonna bring all our blood relatives.
Speaker 2We're going to bring all our blood relatives Only people in the audience.
Speaker 3In a sack.
Surprise international audience connections
Speaker 1Humoring us. They'll be like I don't want to be here. I'm really busy.
Speaker 3It's not voluntary.
Speaker 2It's mandatory.
Speaker 1But yeah, it's wise For us, it feels wise. I'm sure we could have a whole other conversation arguing potentially the opposite, depending on social media but look into it.
Speaker 2People should think about if they were to do one. I think it's a wise exercise to think about. If you were to have a podcast, what would you? Do so even if you don't do anything else other than that which probably most people have thought of at least once in their life. Seriously, like think about, like what would you actually do? Yeah, because even I heard, like when we went and got coffee that one time when this was first, when we were first like thinking about doing this yeah and we got.
Speaker 1That was just a fun experience, just getting coffee with you and just talking about different ways we would approach this totally, that was so fun, and then the podcast was born and then was born yeah, okay, okay. Well, thanks everyone. Thanks for listening Great.
Speaker 2Please reach out South Africa Philippines.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2But spew TZ dot Jonathan at Gmail. Let us know how you found us or reach out to Kelly or Josh.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm at KK psychotherapycom and Josh is at.
Speaker 3Josh bear filmscom. Okay, as always, thank you for the intro and outro at joshbearfilmscom. Okay as always, thank you for the intro and outro music by Blanket Forts and we will end this miniature episode with a normal length outro. Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1Wise Mind Happy Hour podcast is for entertainment purposes only, not to be treated as medical advice. If you are struggling with your mental health, please seek medical attention or counseling.