The Wise Mind Happy Hour
Two therapists musing about the idea of an inner wise mind and how to connect with this psychic space in different contexts.
The Wise Mind Happy Hour
is it wise to have a podcast
another mini episode - apologies for all of this MINIATURE BROADCASTING 🌟🌟🌟 we explore how wise it is to have a podcast 🏋️♀️🏋️🏋️♂️ please feel free to weigh in 👍
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today we have a mini episode of how wise is it? And our topic as and you all know, I'm kelly- oh, hey, kelly with john, it's john mini episode, so it's a mini intro. Um, basically our how wise is it is we're talking about? We were thinking of doing how wise is it to have a podcast, and now we're thinking more generally how wise is it to, on some platform, broadcast your thoughts out into the world your instagram, your tiktok, your youtube channel, a radio show, snapchat, a blog, my snapchat, wikipedia.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I lean Blog.
Speaker 1:MySpace Snapchat Text message yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I lean Fine, Not wise, but I'm making a podcast so, so you're living in that tension. I'm living in the tension. I've never been on social media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2:That's a flex Humble brag, yeah, humble brag right. That's.
Speaker 3:Arrogant brag yes, brag yeah that's arrogant.
Speaker 2:Brag, yes, very humble, no. Um. So that's like very foreign to me, yeah, to put myself out there and I feel like I've been a very private person in that way, and so this has been a very enriching experience for a lot of things, but it's also been scary to like hear myself talk about some personal things. So I'm not saying it's not wise, it's definitely like getting me to think about things differently and like putting myself out there in different ways. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think doing the podcast, though, has felt like a wise decision, because I feel like I've grown a lot from doing it and we haven't even been doing it a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know we haven't done that, but yeah, tell us how, how you feel like it's helped you grow I feel like it's like a practice in um for are you okay?
Speaker 3:yeah, I just banged the mic, not wise, not wise. Knee on the mic.
Speaker 2:Um, I feel like it's helped me get out of a little bit of my comfort zone of like keeping some of these thoughts just kind of like to myself and and also like grown and taking a chance on like putting opinions out there that like I might be judged for or you know people might be like what is he talking about?
Speaker 2:so I feel like it's built up some maybe resiliency and grown in that way yeah of like trying not to yeah try not to care as much you know, and just like truly say how I feel and be honest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think it's like. I mean, I I've never been a huge social media poster, but I definitely consume social media and, like outside of like media, I'm constantly broadcasting my thoughts to like basically anyone who will listen. But I do agree with you that I think putting it in the podcast format it's vulnerable and you have to like own some of your beliefs and like be willing to be wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Be, willing to be judged and hopefully, at the end of it, still accept yourself and accept that. Yeah, maybe I'll turn some people off, maybe I'll say something that's wrong straight up and wrong information.
Speaker 1:Can I sit with that? Can I risk that for maybe the value of learning and engaging and, yeah, talking about topics that interest me and inviting others to listen and contribute and and and hearing your thoughts and you know cause I, on a gut level, I know I've really enjoyed doing this, it's great and I've definitely learned a lot and and yeah, just from these conversations, like we used to have when we shared an office, kind of spitballing and having it be less polished, is where a lot of like discovery comes in and and a self-understanding.
Speaker 1:That is like happening in real time and kind of constellating in real time. So I think it's great. But we're also speaking from the ones doing the broadcasting, because I will sometimes watch a tiktok of someone like talking about their day or something and I'm like who needs this shit? You know, keep this one to yourself yeah which is like the whole point of tiktok, is like telling everyone things you normally keep to yourself. But yeah, I do have moments where I'm just like yeah, nobody needed this one, you know.
Speaker 2:Like sure not wise. They're not all gems they're not all gems. They're not all.
Speaker 1:Gems, yeah, or pearls, wait there was some band that their greatest hits album was they Can't All Be Zingers, which I love yeah, they're naked ladies.
Speaker 3:Was that it? I don't know, but that would be funny.
Speaker 1:They Can't All Be Zingers. They Can't All Be Zingers, they're just funny.
Speaker 2:They're just a funny name they can't all be zingers yeah um I think it's also wise in the sense of like it's led to more connection with you two like which has been great like and also like vj like having when we had our first guest on like, also getting back connected with like people that maybe you're connected with in different ways, like maybe through text or you know you go out to dinner but I think it's it's led to a different kind of connection. I'm not saying it's better, it's just like yeah, it's been really meaningful.
Speaker 1:Totally, totally. I don't think I would have had that conversation necessarily with BJ, or even you and I have these conversations regularly enough Unless there's kind of a reason or like a container that's demanding that which is so nice. What do you think, josh?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I think a podcast is social and it's kind of we're basically we're hanging out and rambling and recording ourselves and I feel like a lot of the time it's therapeutic. I think a lot of the time hearing the two of you talk will give me insights into my life. Or Kelly will specifically talk about like arguments we've had and like have perspective that we didn't necessarily arrive at in the moment. And yeah, I guess I wouldn't equate like how wise is it with how interesting are we to listen to, cause I think that's like ultimately up to the listener but I think it's different from having a Tik TOK or a Facebook where it's this like curated page that you're really trying to like refine an image versus like.
Speaker 3:I am editing these episodes full, full disclosure, but I'm not editing them too much and for the most part they're pretty raw and it's kind of just what we say and we're uploading it online and, like you know, we're like looking at how many plays it has.
Speaker 1:I guess we're big in south africa I think we didn't tell john that we got an email that our podcast is popular in south africa and the philippines really yeah and we tried to check out the source and it seemed legit.
Speaker 3:We got an email that our podcast is popular in South Africa and the Philippines. Really yeah.
Speaker 1:And we tried to check out the source and it seemed legit. What?
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:It's called like pod searcher or something.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's interesting. Like relatively popular in those two countries.
Speaker 2:In the category we were in, which was like entertainment, I can't wait till we do a tour and live shows. I know In those two places we need more.
Speaker 3:South African friends.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, I have so many South African friends.
Speaker 3:It would be incredible, but I think I guess that's my long way of saying I haven't really been looking into the stats. I mean, I just got that email and then sometimes Kelly will say like oh, we have over 100 downloads. But I think for the most part I'm really just enjoying the process. And it would be great if this was a tertiary form of income for us, but I think it's fun. It's a fun excuse to hang out and talk about stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I'm really enjoying it. So I think, I think what's not wise whether it's a podcast or social media or anything is to become like too obsessed with the, the outcome and your stats.
Speaker 1:What are my?
Speaker 3:stats. How am I ranked right? How popular am I? Am I everyone's favorite? Versus just like oh, this is fun to do yeah, that, that was their premise, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was the intention. The intention was always to engage in this and just do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And just like.
Speaker 1:See what comes.
Speaker 2:See what comes of it and then yeah, that'll be whatever it is, but the process of it has been, I feel, very fulfilling. And there are times, though, I will say that my emotion mind will be like oh my god, is this gonna be on the internet forever?
Speaker 1:yeah, oh totally.
Speaker 2:And then I'm like oh my god, my kids, when they're 18, are gonna be like my dad's, my dad's got this archive of like these shows that he did and he was talking about this. So sometimes my mind will go to those places. Still wise to do a podcast, I feel, but sometimes my like when I'm alone with those emotion-minded thoughts yeah, like it feels like almost like I'm cringing for my kids a little bit a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm cringing for unborn children yeah, you know like, like, just yeah, it's like, or even them being like yeah, my mom, I guess, is like a podcaster and people being like interesting yeah, yeah, she uses a lot of hair stuff yeah, yeah, we like learn all about her like hair stuff or her like tragedy with eyebrow dye or you know, embarrassed. That was tragic though it was, it was traumatic, totally tragic yeah but that's.
Speaker 2:That's the thing where you know is pushing through the there's growth, I mean, there's the right, like people are going to think what they're going to think right, and but the, the growth that I feel that's come from it, or the fulfillment, is much more potent and worthwhile yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1:I think it's wise and especially because, like our premise really is, like we enjoy these kinds of conversations. It's interesting. You get to flex your muscle of editing I get to flex my real muscles yeah, josh, yeah, flexing this whole episode, yeah, yeah no one can see because I'm off.
Speaker 3:I like it shirts off.
Speaker 2:Shirts off I like it shirt optional.
Speaker 1:Well, but I think that's also.
Speaker 2:You know, I think we talk about what's meaningful to us, yeah, and so that's what makes this meaningful is. I think we're trying to tap into like we. I don't think we would, I mean, we would maybe venture into like a topic that is like, yeah, I don't know how I feel about that, but if it wasn't like somewhat meaningful, I don't think we would just like do a topic yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1:Find one that always, find one that resonates, and yeah at least hit something you know and even if it is not as like clinical of a topic right like wise mind can come into so much yeah and yeah, I think it's always interesting to talk about that stuff with you. I enjoy it and I always said, if no one ever listens, I think it still sounds fun right and interesting and worth doing maybe that's the wisest.
Speaker 3:Yes, if no one listens yes, like doing it well.
Speaker 1:That's the seed of values right doing it for the sake of its value, alignment and letting go of what it yields yeah, if a tree falls in the woods that would be wow what.
Speaker 2:I'm sure this is not a unique premise by any means, but what if this was like a thing where we had no idea that josh was not posting these like this? This?
Speaker 3:was like a book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly where it was like we just have this catalog yeah I'm not posting them, but we have broadcasting them to another planet.
Speaker 3:It's learning about our species.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like we don't know, but we just keep going. We keep going through this exercise of like doing these conversations, thinking, yeah, they're being put out somewhere, but really it's just a put on his scheme to have us.
Speaker 1:We're just like my shame, yeah, yeah, my shame.
Speaker 3:Josh is shame.
Speaker 2:I would still do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, totally.
Speaker 2:Even if we weren't posting them.
Speaker 1:I would too, and I bet you I mean I don't have like the numbers on this but I bet you the content creators that do it more for the love of the practice and getting your own thoughts out, even laughing at their own jokes or whatever, probably garner like a stronger following Ironically do have better results when they more are in it for the love of the game, and you know it's more pure in that way, instead of like what are people going to respond to the most you know right, more being like what's on my mind right this week, or you know what thing am I loving and want to talk about right?
Speaker 2:or what, what news story caught my attention and I'll break it down for my audience you know, or whatever I think it's also wise to just not like be so clinical or theoretical like it's. It's wise to, I feel as a therapist, to just be more human and totally talk about how this stuff impacts us as humans and the struggles we have, and yeah and yeah, maybe we have a little bit more insight due to training or things like that. But like, we're just, we're human too and we're struggling.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and a lot of that training ultimately helps us have, like insight into ourselves and that kind of transfers to our clients that would be the hope yeah, totally so. We solved it.
Speaker 2:It's absolutely wise to be content creator to broadcast your thoughts yeah, and to be huge in south africa, shout out that social media.
Speaker 1:To be huge in South Africa, shout out to those people that are hopefully right now listening.
Speaker 2:I mean that just feels, that just really. I didn't know this, you all just said that and that just makes me feel warm inside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I felt that too.
Speaker 2:That we have like a niche little pocket, I know, that it was even discovered.
Speaker 3:Please reach even discovered.
Speaker 2:Please reach out to us and let us know what we're doing right what we're doing.
Speaker 3:Email. We'd love to hear from you 100. Reach out to us where we should stay, if we visit, yeah, where we should, or where we could record the live. Yeah, yeah, the live show the local am spaces, yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 1:I would love to do a live episode at some point we'll do one sounds great, we gotta do one we gotta do We've got to do one.
Speaker 3:We've got to do that. Those are always your least favorite episodes.
Speaker 1:Oh, when I listen to podcasts yeah, but I'd still love to do one. I've gone to one and I loved it, so going is great. Yeah, I went to one.
Speaker 2:I went to two. I've been to two get made I did. How did this get made? That was a long time ago, but even before that there was a podcast. Who knows if it's even a podcast anymore. It probably is. I went to it because my cousin really wanted to go and it was in chicago. Uh, never, not funny, or something like that.
Speaker 1:It was like a comedy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it was like a comedy podcast I think his name was jim Jimmy Pardo or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, Maybe. Yeah, he's a comedian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, it was. And I was like actually at that time it was such a long time ago I was like what are we doing again there? And he was like trying to explain like a live recording of a podcast. I was like that sounds terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was super funny.
Speaker 2:And then yeah, how did this get made?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think some podcasts solve that issue by they don't air the live episodes, they just air the studio episodes and then the other ones are just for fun. But we can always decide that what?
Speaker 3:we want to do.
Speaker 1:We'll probably be airing them live, live on tour live on tour.
Speaker 2:Live on tour, tour shirts, tour bus, tour shirts, tour bus.
Speaker 1:We've got the stickers groupies we got the stickers. We've got the other therapists groupies my kids along with us, it's gonna be great our blood relatives. We're gonna bring all our blood relatives.
Speaker 2:We're going to bring all our blood relatives Only people in the audience.
Speaker 3:In a sack.
Speaker 1:Humoring us. They'll be like I don't want to be here. I'm really busy.
Speaker 3:It's not voluntary.
Speaker 2:It's mandatory.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's wise For us, it feels wise. I'm sure we could have a whole other conversation arguing potentially the opposite, depending on social media but look into it.
Speaker 2:People should think about if they were to do one. I think it's a wise exercise to think about. If you were to have a podcast, what would you? Do so even if you don't do anything else other than that which probably most people have thought of at least once in their life. Seriously, like think about, like what would you actually do? Yeah, because even I heard, like when we went and got coffee that one time when this was first, when we were first like thinking about doing this yeah and we got.
Speaker 1:That was just a fun experience, just getting coffee with you and just talking about different ways we would approach this totally, that was so fun, and then the podcast was born and then was born yeah, okay, okay. Well, thanks everyone. Thanks for listening Great.
Speaker 2:Please reach out South Africa Philippines.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But spew TZ dot Jonathan at Gmail. Let us know how you found us or reach out to Kelly or Josh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm at KK psychotherapycom and Josh is at.
Speaker 3:Josh bear filmscom. Okay, as always, thank you for the intro and outro at joshbearfilmscom. Okay as always, thank you for the intro and outro music by Blanket Forts and we will end this miniature episode with a normal length outro. Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1:Wise Mind Happy Hour podcast is for entertainment purposes only, not to be treated as medical advice. If you are struggling with your mental health, please seek medical attention or counseling.