Therapy with Men and Boys: A Guide for Clinicians
Therapy with Boys and Men is a podcast for therapists, counselors, and mental health providers working with male clients — tackling men's mental health, masculinity, the manosphere, and the psychology of boys and men through conversations with leading clinicians and researchers.
Working with men in therapy comes with real challenges: vulnerability and help-seeking don't come easily for a lot of male clients, and clinicians are often left without the training to understand what's actually going on for them — from loneliness and isolation to the pull of online manosphere content, from anger and disconnection to changing ideas about masculinity itself. Each episode brings you tools, research, and clinical wisdom from top experts, helping clinicians (and the women who love, parent, and work alongside men) better understand what men and boys are going through in 2026 America.
Your hosts:
Dr. Erica Liebman is a Philadelphia-based clinical psychologist specializing in men's mental health, couples therapy, and psychological assessments of military veterans. A board member of APA Division 51 (Society for the Psychology of Men & Masculinities), she advocates for better training on boys and men in psychology programs. ericaliebmanpsyd.com
Dr. David Shepard is a Los Angeles-based psychologist with 30+ years of experience treating men individually and in couples therapy. A past president of APA Division 51 and Professor Emeritus in Counseling at Cal State Fullerton, he's published extensively on working with men and male partners in couple therapy. drdavidshepard.com
Therapy with Men and Boys: A Guide for Clinicians
Latest Episodes
Episode 13: From Dude to Dad: Helping New Fathers Connect, Cope, and Thrive
The baby is here. Grandparents crowd the room, nurses check on Mom, and everyone wants to hold the newborn. And Dad? He's standing in the corner with the diaper bag, wondering where he fits. For many n...
Episode 12: AI Therapy is Here: Should We Be Terrified?
We keep hearing two things about AI Therapy and mental health — it's either going to replace therapists, or it's going to ruin a generation of men who talk to their phones for help instead of a person. However, as we know from most new technolo...
Episode 11: How to Connect with Teenage Boys
A fifteen-year-old sits on the couch, eyes down, one-word answers. His parents are terrified they've lost him. Sound familiar?In this episode, Drs. Erica Liebman and David Shepard sit down with Robert Scholz, LMFT, LPCC — a private pract...
Episode 10: Need a Clear Map for Working with Male Clients? Dr. Andrew Smiler Has One
In previous episodes, psychologists Erica Liebman and David Shepard have interviewed master therapists who take a relational approach to helping male clients. This time, we’re doing something different: We are learning about a pragmatic problem...
Episode 09: Part II on Assessing for Suicide: With Demonstration
In Part 1 of this 2-part series, suicidologist, Dr. John-Sommers Flanagan discussed with Erica and David what researchers know and don’t know about why so many men kill themselves. While males and females attempt suicide in equal numbers, men a...