Reinventing Yourself at Any Age | Liz Lindenmeier on Identity, Business & Bold Changes

In this episode of Generational Tea, we're diving into a truly inspiring story of personal reinvention. Our guest is Liz Lindenmeier, the founder of Lit and Lean, a nightlife-inspired fully body sculpt fitness program. Liz went from a career in fashion to owning and growing her own business. We explore her journey, the challenges she faced, and the lessons she's learned along the way. Liz also shared an exclusive offer for our listeners: use the code generationaltea to get your first month of Lit and Lean workouts free through the app.

Connect with Liz and Lit and Lean via their website (litandlean.com), and check out her Instagram and TikTok @litandlean. Her app is available for download on iOS and Android. 

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Transcript

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welcome everybody to the generational tea podcast. I'm your cohost Kena and I'm Ronnie. And today we have a very special guest, Liz Lindenmeyer. Did I say it right? Yeah. Well,, welcome Liz. Do you want to tell us a little bit about Lit and Lane before we get into the interview questions? Yeah. So I'm the founder of Lytton Lane. It's a nightlife inspired silent disco sculpt workout. We believe in coming to party, getting the workout and skipping the hangover. we bring loving to fitness by partnering with venues in the rooftop and nightlife space in New York city, and then also seasonally in Miami and the Hamptons. The idea is to bring your clubbing and partying vibes to your workout and to just have fun and move and groove with it. I love that. So much fun. we, completed a couple of Liz's workouts this week and our bodies are feeling it, but we had a blast. Yeah, definitely. the topic of today's interview is reinventing yourself because you've done that. Would you agree? Yeah, I have been like 20 different people in my life. But as long as it's not 20 at the same time, I ask my husband, sometimes it can be three at the same. No, no. But yeah, actually, you know, it's funny sometimes three at the same, but I'll explain what that means. Not split personality disorder, but you know, roles and jobs. Exactly. Exactly. Cool. We're going to start off just asking you some questions and, you can interrupt or whatever as we go. But the first question is, Liz, can you start by telling us a little bit about your background in life? Yeah, so I actually started as a dancer and that goes as young as three years old that is what I grew up doing and knowing and applying myself to became very disciplined at a young age because I decided pretty early on in life that I wanted to pursue dance professionally and People who are in that industry know that if you're gonna do it you have to pursue it to a hundred percent do it and go all out. which I think I've taken kind of into every role that's led me on that journey. So a lot of times while I was pursuing a dance career, I had to have other side jobs and hustles and find other kind of facets of, strengths that I had and apply them in other areas. And. It's kind of the same thing, a hundred percent put yourself into it, which I think has served me pretty well because, along the way you make really good connections that way and you explore other things, That you maybe didn't think you could do. And then you realize like, Oh, I'm kind of good at this. Right. Let me like, kind of, strategize and how can I bring this, strength into what I'm actually trying to do in life. so I went to school for dance and then I graduated. I knew I wanted to move to New York city and, dancing through college, you know, I had various side jobs, during the summer, whether that was I also got into the retail space, probably when I was about 19 and I started selling shoes in a shoe department back home in Bloomington, Illinois. And that was chaotic. I think I was probably one of the youngest salesperson on the floor. So I was walking in as a 19 year old, being like, this is just my summer gig. but also, having this sense of like, I really need to prove myself here because otherwise, I'm going to go have to work a job that I really don't want to do. And, this was fun and it was exciting. I've always been a shoe girly. And, so it was kind of like diving in, learning a bunch of different brands, really being able to like connect with people well at the same time, meeting goals and sales stuff like that. So. Once I moved to New York, having that experience on my resume was super helpful because I am not a night owl and I did not want to be a bartender. So, being able to find retail jobs in New York city where there's just so much opportunity, was great for that. And I started working at Lord and Taylor right when I moved, same kind of thing, youngest person in there. And so everyone was like, What is this girl doing here? Why is she here? You know, New York city retail is a completely different world, like it is cutthroat. People are very competitive on the floor. People will be really nice to your face and talk about you behind your back. And these are like people 20 years older than me. So that was a new experience, just being like a Midwest girl and then coming into a city and already feeling a little isolated, but having to make my way and prove myself. So eventually that actually led me to work in a more luxury retail setting. And that was interesting too, because, you know, I was coming in and I never really had the experience of clienteling and making relationships with, people in that way, where it was more of a sales relationship and an ongoing and marketing myself and marketing what this designer had to offer them and, you know, sending them new collection look books. So that actually, I think is probably what I've. Taking the most today to what I do is like really being able to strategize knowing who your client is, knowing what they want, being able to do it in a authentic way, and I think now I have the opportunity to do that in a more authentic way because my company is my thing and it really embodies everything that I really care about versus working for somebody else, another designer and showing off their stuff. So, yeah, so I did, the luxury retail for five years. it was really nice because I had the flexibility to start to build. My business on the side and I was dancing and the pandemic hit And I was already teaching fitness on the side. So that's where I like played three roles at once I was teaching fitness in the morning I was going to my retail job during the day and then I was going to dance rehearsals at night So I was really used to like a 16 hour day packing multiple change of clothes and snacks and all the things. And I think my co workers probably thought I was just crazy. I think sometimes when you meet people like that, it could come off of like, they have their eggs in every single basket and I don't know what they're doing or where they're going and whatever. It could be maybe like chaotic for some. But for me, you know, you definitely have the moments of doubt where you're like, what am I doing? which direction am I headed? What do I like? But I always believe that if I just explored avenues of things that got me excited and interested. That I would eventually find a connecting point and land on that. So when the pandemic hit, I was teaching fitness and, it was actually a really good friend was like, have you ever thought about like doing your own workout, like on zoom for people while the studios are shut down and everything. And I was like, I don't know if anyone would come to it. Like I was immediately stopped by the fear of no one showing up., That's a lesson today where it's like. Even if people don't show up, that can't be the thing that stops you because the one or two people that do show up you know, it's so much more impactful than having a hundred people who show up, but don't care about it. I kind of took the dive and I had so many hours at home to really explore, My dance background, my fitness background, the training, what I've already done, what I knew, what I worked, what I knew worked for people, what I knew people liked out of my classes that I was teaching in other various studio settings and just finding something that's me. And that's still like effective on the body. So I have so many videos in my phone from March of 2020, just in my apartment, hours of footage, figuring out. What does a standing ab section look like? what size weight do you use for it? So you don't crank your neck and just. And I remember like launching my first zoom class, and I think I had 30 people show up and that was just so exciting to me. But I think looking back, it was just such a testament to the relationships that I had formed along the way. And even though I was Splitting off into three different avenues in New York city. I was in the dance world. I was in the fitness world. I was in this luxury retail designer world, making relationships and friendships and having them all kind of come in and be supportive of one thing was really cool and that felt like a moment where me spreading myself really paid off nicely. Yeah, that's cool. Right. Um, as a dancer, I actually was a dancer all through from like three, went to the Bon Arts Center, still She still always, she always for dancing to something It's true. Dancers are always dancers. Yes, we are. We are. so with that, what dance did you do? Were you ballet? what did you prefer? So I had a ballet degree and emphasis in ballet, but bachelor of fine arts and dance. So I spent so many hours in pointe shoes, but then professionally, after I graduated, I never had to wear a pair of pointe shoes ever. I was like, always cast in, more contemporary, companies and things and projects. a lot of like musical theater came into my life. And, also I started doing aerial dance, like silks, like my last year of school, just for fun. Like I had already basically completed all of my credits that I needed. And I was just like, hanging around my last semester, just still trying to train and get ready to move to the city. so I was like, Oh, let me take some aerial. Like this is fun. And it's funny because my first professional job after school, and then a few after that was aerial work. And I never thought I would do something like that. And it actually scared me. And I think that was another reason why I did it. I was so scared to go up in the air and like only be supported by my upper body strength. So it's funny how The scary things lead you to take kind of the biggest leaps. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So I heard you're from the Midwest and I'm also a Midwest girlie. Yeah. Do you miss the Midwest at all or aspects of it living in New York? I think the aspects of like kind of community, sometimes community can be missed, but, Luckily, I think that I have a fitness community. So I get that from there. And I think you find your communities in New York city all the time, whether that's going to the same coffee shop every single morning and like knowing the people that go there and knowing the baristas behind the counter. but yeah, other than that, I love the Midwest with all my heart, but no, I do not miss the Midwest. Yeah. I love it too, but I prefer the South. It's like snow. So that's why that's probably why winters are rough. Yes. I know you mentioned your friend suggested, what do you think about doing your own fitness classes? Was that the specific moment where you would realize that you wanted to change and to move completely to fitness and away from retail? Or is there a different moment when you had that realization? I have this moment where it was actually, I think a couple classes into, so I started, when I started doing those zoom classes, it was like, okay, let's do once a week and then. As more and more people were going and I was getting feedback and I'm like, all right, would you guys want to do twice a week? So I started holding a few more classes. And then I remember one day I was on a walk with my dogs and I was walking actually ironically through the first park that I, the day after I moved to New York city, I did a run too. And I like went by the water and you know, you're in this newness of like, I don't really know what the future holds, but I know what I have to offer. And I don't know what's going to happen to me in this city, but I'm excited and I'm open to receiving the opportunities and I was in that park and I started just taking notes in my phone of like, All the ideas of what my business could be. So if I had a physical space, what would that look like? If I had partnerships, what would my dream partnerships be? What is the mission statement? What is the brand? What is the community I want to build? And, you know, it's funny because a lot of those things. Have not remained the same at all. They've grown and changed in so many different ways. But as I was writing all those things down, I had this feeling like, I think for the first time that I was doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing, it felt like everything, all the random, add in jobs that I had and random people and connections that I had been a part of and like adapting to various different environments, really led me to this moment and I was like, This is what it was preparing me for. if I want this to happen, I have to believe it can happen and it will happen. So I think that was the moment where I just felt really inspired and like. This is it for me. with that, I actually, I stayed, with my retail job, I think for another year and a half after that, because I just really wanted to make sure that when I went full time with my business, that there wasn't this sense of panic and urgency. And I want it to be comfortable to where I could really still focus on like, What it is intended to be in the experience for people versus like, how am I going to pay my bills this month? And I need to hustle and I need to get this many clients and I need to do that. And so I wanted to just be a calm energy and presence for people with that. So I waited till I just felt right. And one day I woke up and I was like, I think I'm okay. Like, I think I'm going to quit my job today. Wow. Great moment. Yeah, it was a great moment. It was scary, but in such a good way, like it felt good. That's awesome. Yeah. Well, sounds like you worked incredibly hard to get to where you are. And I think we both could see the passion you had for what you're doing, even in just a couple of videos we did with your workout. So it's really cool to hear where all this passion and all this experience and all this preparedness came from. Yeah. We did a session on authenticity and talked a lot about how to be more authentic in your life and in your relationships. And I think with authenticity there comes a lot of confidence. You have to have the confidence and what I hear you saying is you have a streamline of confidence. You know exactly what you can do, what you're good at, what you're great at, what you're scared of. All those things, all those factors just sounds like they just all came together at one time, but that you had to have had a lot of confidence because thank you. And I commend that. That's awesome. That's awesome. So, what were some of the biggest fears you had? money wise, I guess, obviously living in New York cities, not cheap. Yeah. yeah, there's always the fear of failure. I think that can initially creep in, in the beginning of entrepreneurship, but, I mean, if you look at any like mega successful person today, I think that they've all had those moments. of fear of failure. And I think that's so normal, but I think what it is is like, yes, having confidence, but having this really strong sense of self of knowing, like, you know what, at the end of the day, this is life and it is what you make it. And we're not here to just constantly win and win and win. Like we have to drop, we have to learn. I think even now being in year five of my business versus year two, when mistakes and growing pains happen, they feel a little bit. And then I just have to remind myself, of course they feel scarier because this is how you stretch. You're not going to feel comfortable forever versus in year two, when those moments would happen, I'd be like, that's okay, I'm the new girl here. All good. It's okay to mess up, but still like keeping that in every single moment. you know, I'm sure Taylor Swift feels the same way when she's like makes mistakes on stage. It's just kind of like in one year out the other, I got it, whatever they happen. Yeah, the fear of failure, but turning that into just motivation to keep going. And, I think there's also the fear of judgment when you do something and you have to, you know, 100 percent put yourself out there. you fear that people who know you and who are really close to you are going to be like, what is she doing? like this kind of eye rolling thing, but I think being an entrepreneur is a really great way to, um, We don't relationships that don't serve you and friendships that don't serve you and people in your circle become much smaller because you just really want the people that fill your cup and support you and Want you to win and I think that is a much better day to day living experience than having a million people out there Who think you think they're gonna always clap for you and they're not clapping for you in the background. Yeah That's awesome. So I know you, were a dancer but did you have to prepare mentally or physically for this big change in your career? Whether it was while you still had a hand in both pots in terms of retail and your business, or as you were transitioning to your business full time, did you have to do a lot of research or personal growth to prepare for that? I know you mentioned that Your busy schedule prepared you for that in a lot of ways, but was there other ways that maybe you had to change and prepare for it? Yeah, I think, definitely being prepared to no longer have coworkers and have a lot of like human interaction that is not just client facing. because now it's like, you know, I'll see so many people throughout the day, but the majority of the time that I spend with them is me leading them and teaching them. And also me, like being, Much of a rock for them. So a lot of times when you're in a little more one on one settings or smaller settings, like people really open up to you and you learn so much about their life. And I will never take that for granted. Cause I, I feel really happy that I can be a space for that for people. But on the alternative side, I'm always giving. And I'm not always getting that back and that's fine because I'm in a business relationship with people. So definitely making that mental preparation of like, how do I use my downtime to refill my own cup? How do I take time to step away from my business and not let it be all about that all the time and enjoy my life and other hobbies and other interests?, And yeah, and being a little isolated because you talk to friends who work nine to five corporate jobs and they can be, you know, of support and listening, but they don't really understand it and they might see it a little bit differently and they might think, oh, that the flexibility of, you know, your schedule and you getting to kind of build your day and what you do, it must be so nice. Like, I have to be on a meeting at 9 a. m. So it's kind of like just being your own advocate behind closed doors of, supporting yourself and a lot of like inner work. So I journal every single morning just to kind of get my mind right and in a space where I can like still focus on myself and prioritize my needs before I go out into the world and focus it on everybody else. That's awesome. Yeah. I need to start journaling more. It's so nice. It's just like a great way to start like the day intentional and start the vibes right for yourself.

Ronnie G: 18:11

That's awesome. I'm sure your husband has been instrumental in helping you as far as like being that rock for you and you know, that support you guys have such a beautiful relationship. Thank you. You just got married, right? Yeah, we got married almost a year ago, last March. Oh wow, I didn't realize it's been a year. I know, time has flown.. But yeah, Xavier has been great because it's so nice that he was there from the beginning. So in the beginning stages of Litten Lane, when I was teaching in parks, like he was carrying the speaker for me, like through the park, he was standing in the park, making sure that no one was being weird and like stopping and making people feel uncomfortable in like a public setting like that. And you know, if I had like a technology issue with the silent disco headphones, when I first implemented them, he was on YouTube figuring out how to fix this and that. So it's been nice to have a partner that like, doesn't just get this version of you, but also got like every little in between version and has been loving through every single version. And, and that's, that's really cool to have. Yeah. Really a servant. Yeah. How long have you guys been together? We've been together, nine years next month. We met in New York. And so funny when I told you I started retail at Lord and Taylor, that's where we met and I only worked that job for like three months. And I think I know the reason that I landed there was literally to meet him and then move on to the next thing and bring him with me. So yeah, it was funny. That's awesome. So we've talked pretty much about this, I know you said, journaling is a big part of your day. In those earlier stages, do you have any secrets about how to stay motivated, you know, through the tough moments when perhaps you're doubting Was there anything other than journaling and obviously having Xavier? Yeah, I realized for me that, I don't really know when I'm at my max until it's way too late. And then I'm like having a breakdown and crying over like little things. Yeah, I could literally be in the most stressful moments of life and be like, I'm fine. Like I'm good. Cause I think when you have a positive outlook, like that kind of shields a lot of underlying stress, but your body like physically has reactions. And so when I get there, it's always good for me to just take a break. and it sounds so silly, but like me just, even if I'm staying in New York city and I just take a few days off, or if I take, you know, weekend to go away or something like that. Me really having other moments of life. Like I said, you can't be your business all the time. You have to have other things that make you happy and fill you. And so when I take time to do that and I come back, I feel like a better trainer, a better businesswoman, a better leader. When I am like together, you know, you can't lead if you're not a whole person inside. And so when those moments happen, when you're just feeling really discouraged or really overworked or stressed, it's good to recuperate so that you can be the best version. Cause I don't want to leave my business if I'm not in a good place, because it's most likely not going to be a great experience for everybody. So, and a lot of ways I find that too is through music you know, lit and lean is based on music. our playlists are always the best and everything happens on the beat. And so I'm constantly on Spotify throughout my day, or even when I'm doing laptop work, like I'm listening to new artists and playlists. And discovering that I'm going to nightlife things, you know, whether that's like I'm drinking water the whole time because I know I need to teach the next morning, but being in a party setting and a nightclub setting and a DJ set where I'm taking in music, I'm seeing how it impacts people and like what that can move them through and, it's like that for me is like research also. I'm like, how do I implement this festival into like that same vibe and feeling you can get when I come into one of our events. So, that always re inspires me and like keeps me creative because you never really stop learning either. Like you have to keep learning. No one knows all the answers. Very true. Were you a DJ? Yeah, I still DJ. So it's funny cause that kind of came along from Linden Lane. I was creating and curating all the playlists. And then I was like, you know what I know about music? I know I used to play violin as a kid. I'm like, I got a beat. I know these things. again, all these random things that like come together and you kind of find the meaning for it. So yeah, I took myself secretly. This was actually right after I quit my retail job. So I had a little bit more time on my hands. Cause I was like, okay, I'm doing my business full time, but I don't. Necessarily need to be doing it 10 hours a day straight. So what am I going to do to fill this time? And I like signed up for DJ classes in Midtown with like some random teacher. And I didn't even tell anybody about it. And I just went for like eight weeks and then I was like, okay, I graduated. I'm ready to try. So I like got the equipment and you know, I think the first few gigs I like was just with like personal relationships I knew. And I was like, do you want me to DJ? Like I'll DJ your party. I'll DJ this. And, practice more and more at home and yeah, and then that became a thing, which was really nice too, because I worked with so many hospitality groups in New York. So I am on meetings with those people. So it was kind of nice to always be like, also, if you need a DJ for this event, like I can do it. And it was kind of an easy crossover for me. Yeah, that's really awesome. That definitely keeps you connected to the nightlife. Yeah, for sure. Was it hard to learn or how long was the class that you had to take? I did like eight weeks and it was like hour long sessions. I honestly was pretty quick. I think that there, you know, you can always learn because a lot of it is technology, but the base of Knowing what sounds good together, how to count music, knowing phrasing. that comes in handy if you have like a music background. And I think also too, being a dancer, you are so used to listening to music and moving through that. So definitely advantage. My husband wants me to teach him and I'm like, we'll talk about it. Cause I need you to learn how to clap on the two and four first. So yeah. Yeah. next question, bridging back to retail. Not that I've personally worked a lot of retail, but I know it can be fast paced and customer oriented. you kind of already mentioned how those skills played into fitness, if you want to expand on that, how did you leverage the skills you gain in retail and translated that to your business? I think definitely recognizing, knowing who your clients are, outreach because client outreach is so important. whether that's just through like really general email marketing blasts or, you know, the things that you're posting on socials to kind of grab your consumer's attention, and maintaining relationships with people. especially when you work at a luxury retail level, like those clients, the same thing they come in, it's more than just purchasing clothes. Like they want to know you, they want to feel comfortable. They want that luxury experience. yeah, really learning how to communicate with people and, being able to switch on and off, of being a person and also like still making sales and goals and being strategic about it. and. I think like also memory because memory really comes in handy when you can remember people's names. they feel really special when you take the time and effort to do that and remembering like little facts about them is super important in business. So Rhonda's always saying names are so important. I try if anybody has I try if anyone has a name tag on Walgreens, whatever, if it says Justin, I say, thank you, Justin. Yeah. it levels a playing ground. Like it just levels everything out. especially if you're maybe the consumer and this person, you know, is working super hard and making hardly any money. Yeah. Doing something in addition to the extra tip like looking them in the eye those kind of things. I feel like I'm sure retail Helps you get to that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I completely agree So as someone who has reinvented yourself Did you deal with any external pressures or judgments or was? Was there anybody that maybe was close to you or used to be in your circle of influence who maybe doubted? Or discouraged you from doing something like that Ooh, tea, guys. Generational tea. I'm gonna be so honest. Like, there's definitely people like I said, that like your circle becomes smaller. And I think that's not because People are shady and they don't want to support you or whatever. but I think it's like, just understanding, your friendships just change. And I think that happens through all seasons of life. Like when you get married, when you have a kid, when you move, when you, whatever, when you start a business, like your people, your friendships are going to change. I think when people start to see you differently, they either like hop on that and they're there, or they might just feel that the friendship's different and they don't know how to acclimate. but to be honest, I think that for the small group of people that I really call my friends and family, like they were always cheering so loud and like my husband's a great example of this cheering so loud that I never noticed when someone didn't support me. You know, or like notice, I just don't really care. Cause I think at the end of the day, I say this a lot to myself, like I go to bed with myself and I wake up with myself. So it's not important to me for someone to look at me or my business and be like, Oh, she's so successful or, oh, she's not successful either way. It doesn't matter. I just want the fruits of my success to, be for me and my husband and my dogs and my future family someday. It doesn't matter to me if someone deems me that if things I'm not, or doesn't think I'm that, because I live in my reality and so that it's just never been a concern, like, you know, if people are like, I don't know. It's a small little business. Like, that's great. Cool. I'm living it. Yeah. You do you, I'll do me. Exactly. You're just going to stay in your lane. Yeah. Yeah. the seasons and the friendships and the support, you know, as someone who's middle aged, um, well, you know, What is it? 80, 30, 40? I'm 31. Yeah, we're the same age. The fact that you surrounded yourself with people that loved you genuinely, you had a genuine relationship, an authentic relationship with folks, it wasn't like you were cutting people out. It was just, well, you know, and, and having adult kids now that are married, it continues to evolve. You know, I have probably three or four ladies that I'm really close to And I have been for maybe 15 years, but for the most part it is seasonal You know whenever you're in this season, you have those kind of people but you have x and you trust him And he cheers. I my husband is a big cheerleader, too He is he went all over greenville yesterday to find me this boom arm In fact, he met me twice when he didn't show up the first time At the ingles To get it because I was gonna have to order one. It wouldn't be here today. He went back a second time. Yeah. Oh, that's so nice Oh sweet. So sweet. So yeah, I mean having a rock like that really can help you feel like you could do anything Yeah, and you're doing it. You're killing it girl. Seriously Next questions kind of broad What are some of the biggest lessons you've learned through this journey of reinventing yourself? Well, I think like just doubling down on relationships or everything, the way that you connect with people really like genuinely and authentically is so, so much, so important in business, but not even in business, like just as a human being, like your experience on earth is going to be. 10 times more magical if you are a wholesome person and really care and have empathy for people and like lead with love. And then I think also too, like, you have to have this almost, and sometimes I say it in my household, I'm like, I'm going to live delusionally. Like you have to have this delusional belief in yourself, you know? And, and it's different. you have to be humble. But you have to be also this delusional and never ending belief in yourself and that the greater things are still ahead of you. And there's still things gonna come. Like, it's not over yet. The best is yet always to come. Because I think if you don't have that, it can be so easy to be shaken. Like, I mean, you have five members leave or cancel, or, you know, your venue falls through your event. Didn't sell out like whatever those things could be where you could just get done on yourself and be like, okay, this is it. I'm not good at this anymore. Or maybe this was just Only a moment and I have to do something else now. Like you just have to believe that it's meant for you and that it can't always be like this and it can't always stay up here. Like there has to be dips and trips. and that's how we get better. Yeah, absolutely. I used to tell my boys on a regular basis. You can never cheat the hustle. I love that. You can't. Yeah. It pays off every time. when we choose not to do it, then we miss out, but it's not just everybody else in our circle of influence. So, you know, what I hear you saying is I hustle every day. Yeah. I hustle. I hustle. So that's exciting. Yeah.

Kaina G: 31:26

I think when you're taking time to invest in experiences, relationships and stuff, that can be easier to have that. I like how you say delusional confidence. Well, and also your ability, I can tell you just have an ability, and a mindset of celebrating other folks successes too. Yeah. A long way in relationships or even in your own personal life, Being okay to say you know, you got that job. You got that promotion You're moving Being able to be that person for that friend who's getting ready to take a big step themselves And because of your experience and you know how it can turn out so Has your personal reinvention process inspired any of your fitness plans? Have you been able to like Share your story with some of these folks to inspire them that maybe they're in a corporate job or in a day to day that they're struggling with. Can you think Yeah. There's actually been a lot of people. and I've never really thought about this till right now, but absolutely. There are so many people in my community that, started taking the path of entrepreneurship in various ways. I mean, I have no idea if that has anything to do with me, but, seeing them do it and then like also being the person that they typically will call and be like, Hey, can we get a coffee? I'd love to pick your brain about it. And I always say, yes, I think half of my week is coffee dates. Like I just had one this morning. I had one two days ago where, and A lot of times people think that going to a coffee date, they're like, okay, what's the point of this? What are we getting? Sometimes there's no point. Sometimes it's really just to connect with someone who, you know, wants to pick your brain on something or bounce ideas, or maybe they work in finance and they need someone for X, Y, Z. And it's like, yeah, of course, Litton Lane can't help you there. However, the network of Litton Lane can help you. I know somebody who knows somebody right through like, we're all just like, it's this invisible string of connections and networking. But yeah, I always am like so excited when someone chooses that path because There's so many things that I can share that I wish someone would have shared with me that I just like had to figure out and I don't think it needs to be hard for others because it was harder for me. Like, I think when you can help people, you can help them. And so, yeah, I work with a lot of moms and a lot of times these moms had careers in the past and then they, you know, You know, pause them to take care of their kids and raise their kids. Now their kids are a little bit older or they're looking for something to do on the side. So they've started, you know, personal styling businesses. They've started meditation. They got their yoga certification. They're starting an events company. so that's been really cool to see and those are honestly the people that I like to spend my time with is people that are like doing their thing, whether how big or small, because there's just a deeper understanding that you can connect on. And it's so inspiring because they might be saying something about their business and it like makes me think of an idea for mine. So I think it's so good to put yourself in a room with those people all the time. I love that you have that mindset of sharing your wealth of knowledge and learning from other people because that's so important. And I feel like sometimes. Business owners kind of gatekeep in a sense, and I love that you're so open with it. yeah, totally. Yeah, let's see. So now that you've gone through this process, and you have Litton Lane, and you're building it, what's next for you? Is it to continue to build that? Do you have any new goals with your business or projects in the future? Yeah, so I actually have something that I'm really excited about. I'm launching it in May. And, it's called coffee and chill and coffee and chill is 250 to 500 person cold plunge parties with coffee and a DJ and wellness activations around. So this was originally started in LA by two guys and then it quickly spread to San Diego and Miami. And, this summer I was hired on to, co found the New York city market. So, we're launching the first weekend of May. I'm really excited about this. it was definitely a moment where I had to think about, okay, this is another either extension of me, or is this confusing to people? And ultimately I was like, no, this is an extension. This is wellness based. This is social. community. This is a party environment in a healthy way. so I was really excited to get on board and start building it and have something that's already developed that I can just kind of take in and move forward on versus having to curate something completely by myself from scratch again. and then the way that I think that that can also compliment and skill Litton Lane and how I can bring my fitness community over into this community and vice versa. So that's next on the plan for me. I've already been like working on it. We have a few events already planned. but it's been really fun to kind of get to do it all over again in a way. and exciting because I think there's so many ways that you can scale a business. And that was something that was on my mind much of last year for Lit Lean. And I'm like, what does that look like? Does that look like investors? Does that look like, you know, putting more money into the app? like, how do we scale? Um, and this kind of landed in my lap, like around the same time that I was really having a lot of like conversations with people who are close to me on how I could like do this. And then I was like, asking you shall receive, because this is such a great, great way to scale and develop and just see what it can turn into. So I'm really excited about that. So coming in May, I'm interested to check it out closer to that and you can give us a little sneak peek for our listeners. Yeah, The words that came across my mind was serial entrepreneur. I can tell you've caught the bug. So I have a front row seat and watch you just not cheat the hustle and go for it. So it's inspiring. It really is. Well, I'm inspired by you guys. I mean, like when I first met you and you were telling me about this podcast and now you guys are doing it and I could tell too, just like by the initial conversation, how much your heart was in it. And I was like, Yeah, if your heart is in something this deep, it's going to be amazing and it's going to be successful. So shout out to you guys Yes, we're excited. So for anyone that's interested in checking out Litton Lane that maybe doesn't live in New York or wherever you can get the live components to that. Do you want to just tell them? The subscription and app and just tell them a little bit more about that and how they can access your programs. Yeah. Yeah. So the light and lean app, it can be downloaded in your app store. That's for Android and iPhone. you have over 300 at home workouts. And you guys, as you experience, you can literally do them at home. You need like five by five foot of space, like barely anything. a mat, wine bottles, weights, whatever you got at home, you just pick it up and use it. And, the workouts range from five to 55 minutes, all levels, all fitness levels are welcome. There's so many ways, to modify and to work with it, whatever your fitness level and capabilities are. And, yeah, there's a great filtering system. So if you were wanting to go on there and just work out your triceps or just work out your core or be on the mat and never stand up, there's something for everybody there, the music's always going to be fun. And it'll kick your butt. You can get a good workout at home. You don't need that gym membership. And it is a party setting for sure. and for our listeners out there who, may struggle like physically with something that maybe has prevented them from consistently, exercising. Having a long history of back and chronic sciatica, I was able to easily modify, any of the workouts that we've done without hurting myself. So to me, that's huge. I'm so happy to hear that. Yeah. Right. Right. so, you know, again, our listeners who may think, you know, I haven't really stuck to a fitness routine. Since I had my child and now they're in college. Now's to the time. Jump back in. no judgment. You can do it at home. Our animals cheer us on. In fact, did you see our Josie, that little dog that photo bombed, yeah, I love it. Well, I don't know if you guys got to any of the videos on the app, but Victor and Rolf, my two dogs, make lots of appearances and videos. We're looking forward to actually doing it outside when it gets. Yes. Yeah. The backyard. Totally. So, yeah, Also, I have a code for your listeners for the app. Okay. Tell us about that code. Yeah, the code is generational T and that'll get you your first month free. So you can just run it and unlimited for a month and try every single thing and, find your group with it. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you for offering that to our listeners. I'm really excited to get to experience your workouts. Cause I love them. I'm definitely going to keep doing that. Yes. Well, at the end of every one of our podcasts, we do something called what she said. So, you're going to be our she, and Liz is going to give us some advice today. So for someone who's thinking of reinventing themselves. But isn't sure where to start. What advice would you give them and how would you recommend they take the first step? I would say to focus on what you love like what ignites you What inspires you? What makes you the most excited about life and that's it. Find how you can create something from that. And the first step would to be to just try it and do it. Because when you're starting from zero, there's no expectations, there's barely any room to fall. So, take that off the table and just try a bunch of different ways to create something and see what works and what doesn't work, and then just keep pushing. Keep doing it. Awesome. Well done. Awesome. We have another one that we say practice makes progress. So it sure does for sure. Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day. So much. It was lovely to hear all about your business. And yeah, again, the code is generational. T is that right? Yes. We'll have the link in our. Show notes. Yep. Awesome. Well, yeah, go check out Lit and Lean on Instagram and I think you're on TikTok as well. Is there any other social platforms? Yeah, Instagram, go to litandlean. com. That's where you can find videos and classes and events and all the things. Yep. Yeah. And then you can go check out our Instagram too if you wanna see us do a lit and lean workout. It's very silly and we are dead by the end, but it'll give you a taste of what it's like. And yeah. Thank you again, Liz. We loved hearing about your story and we look forward to hearing about Coffee and Chill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Best of so much. Absolutely. It's great to see. We'll be talking soon. Alright.