Borrowed Dreams: Are You Chasing Someone Else's Life?

Some dreams are planted.

Others are inherited.

Long before most of us decide what we want from life, we're handed a picture of what success is supposed to look like. A certain career. A certain income. A certain title. A certain lifestyle. Over time, those expectations become so familiar that we stop asking a simple question:

Do I actually want this?

In this episode, Greg sits down with Maurice Taylor to explore the idea of Borrowed Dreams—the goals we pursue because they were passed down by parents, culture, comparison, or the people around us.

Together, they unpack how easy it is to mistake admiration for purpose, why social status can quietly influence the direction of our lives, and how many people spend years climbing a ladder they never intended to climb.

The conversation also explores parenting, youth sports, success, money, creative careers, obsession, and one of the most important questions anyone can ask:

How do you know if a dream is truly yours?

Greg shares why real dreams don't need constant external validation. They become an obsession. They pull you toward the work instead of pushing you with guilt or expectation.

Because the greatest risk isn't failing to achieve your dream.

It's succeeding at someone else's.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Are your dreams actually yours? Or are they societies? Are they your parents or families? Or is it a dream you actually even care about? And it's just been a dream for so long, it's now just a habit. We moved the goalposts. You hit your dream eight years ago. You realize what you're capable of. There you go. I think I was dreaming too small. Greg Vetter Podcast. Uh topic today per you is borrowed dreams, which I thought was an interesting topic. And it was surrounded around are your dreams actually yours? Or are they societies or are they your parents or families? Uh or is it a dream you actually even care about? And it's just maybe been a dream for so long, it's now just a habit. What other color do you want to give to that?

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Um and are you defining your success based on that possibly borrowed dream?

SPEAKER_01 1:13

So that's obviously unbelievably interesting because I think when you're young, you have no idea what your dream is. And maybe today it's a little bit easier or more acceptable to have kind of wild dreams in terms of like, oh, I'm gonna be a YouTuber, you know, when we were growing up. It's like, what are you talking about, dude?

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Now that you're saying that, I see my daughter just asked me, Dad, I want a YouTube page. I was like, the only way you get a YouTube page if I do a YouTube page with you. Yes. And it's like a Ari and Daddy, or Daddy and or or we can name it what I what I always call her was uh Ari from the Stars.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

And we could we could name it something like that, and I'll be on there with you. Right and we and we can do something. But I mean, not to knock anybody, those YouTubers and those streaming, the families, because my daughter will just watch these people who I know film with their families and they just be on their phone filming, but they make these they be living in some nice houses. I'd be like, he gotta be doing something outside of like what's his real job outside, or what's her real job outside of doing just making content.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

But I think some make it, and I think other people make it, they're faking it, or they're not even making it, they're just faking it. You know, I saw some guy who's allegedly famous and wealthy and this whole thing, and he had a private jet scene that he was filming and streaming that he was on a jet, and then his other buddy, who's a part of his streaming crew or some bullshit that they all have now, like they're fucking gangs or something, a bunch of nerd gangs. He filmed him coming out of their garage, and this dude had a fake jet scene in the garage. So he's walking out of the garage, and the dude's filming him, and you can see this fake private jet out there.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

And he just makes content from the jet.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

From the jet, like he's balling on a jet. And you know, I think a lot of these guys are probably renting homes and and hoping that they're portraying I'm making so much money doing this thing. Look at the life that I'm living. You can live this too, and I see that all the time on social media. You know, I just closed another $200,000 client yesterday. I made $85,000 yesterday. Let me teach you how. And in the grand scheme of things, I always just think about percentiles of how many people are actually making XYZ money from a percentage perspective. And I bring this up to people all the time. It's like people think the 1% is some like massive amount of money, and and it is, but if you make over $225,000 in a year, you're in the top five percent of people in the United States. So what, everybody on social media is in the top five percent? No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Yeah, I seen a dope video which I sent out. This one guy said, everybody can look rich on the weekends. You sent me that, dude.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

I fucking love that thought.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Let me see what your Wednesday looks like. Are you in your kid's car line? Yes. On the Wednesday. He goes, that is well.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

He said, that's those are the dudes that are killing it. The dudes that can go pick their kids up at three o'clock on a Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

And then say, you know what? I'm not going back to work. I'm I'm done for the day. Yeah. What you want to do?

SPEAKER_01 5:19

We want to go. And I love I love that concept because he just kind of broke down like anybody can pretend to be rich on the weekend. Pop into bottles, popping bottles, Rolexes that you allegedly have, all of your blang, all of your Gucci, all of your Louis, all of your jet whatever. No. Do you know how much a private jet costs just in fuel? I was explaining this to my kids the other day. Because they're like, oh, so-and-so took a private jet here, they took a private jet there. I go, maybe. Maybe they did. I go, do you know how much a private jet costs to go from let's say let's go cross country flight. Okay, from here to Cali. Here to Cali. Okay. It's like a minimum of $5,000 an hour in fuel. Just fuel. Fuel. That's not even the two pallets. Right? So you're dropping for a nice jet, not a little one, but like the ones that everybody takes pictures of. Right. Where you can walk. Yeah, where you're walking and you're sitting and you're fifty, sixty thousand dollars one way. You know how much liquid cash you need to have to be dropping fifty to sixty thousand dollars one way on a fucking flight?

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Like you are liquid beyond liquid. I want I I at least that and I need to spend it for me to think about spending it. I need about 250 million.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Well, you know what that's funny, right? So I have a buddy, he is an actual billionaire. He doesn't do it. He does it sometimes when you need on special occasions or on areas where it's like very important, and his cost-benefit analysis of getting there at a certain time outweighs having to use a commercial flight. Well, there's not that many billionaires or hundreds of millionaires under the age of 35 in the United States of America. There's a handful. So this whole bull I don't I don't even know how we got on this fucking tangent, but this whole bullshit of oh yeah, let me go hop on my private jet and drop $65,000 on whatever, you know, and then I saw something else on the Breakfast Club, I think it was Tyrese or somebody else, I don't know who it was. Talking about jewelry. Yeah, how it was Tyrese. How all the shit's fake. Yeah, he said, he said, man, I'm not buying that. Well, he said, I did when I was young. Yeah. He goes, and then a cleaning lady stole it, and I had like a $250,000 necklace, and he did this hilarious accent. No, I don't know where the X, I don't know where the necklace went. He goes, Oh yeah, you don't know where that $200? Yeah, sure. And so now he only wears fake jewelry. Right. Well, and then that just kind of comes back to the point of like, why even wear fake jewelry then? Like if it's not even real, like what's the what's the fucking point here? But this whole concept of borrowed dreams and YouTubers and all this other stuff, I do feel like we live a little bit today in a world where it is easier to have kind of your own dream and it's within reach per se, and there's enough information out there and a plan on how you could potentially do it. Because I feel like when we were growing up, it was if you were successful, you were a doctor or you were a lawyer, or sports player, yeah, pro-athlete, musician, but like the entrepreneurial thing was there and it was interesting, but it wasn't a trend.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Yeah, we we couldn't see it because we didn't have social media. The only thing we had was actual regular TV where we would see the football players, the basketball players, the entertainers, right? There was no Shark Tank. Yeah, you know, the movie stars and things like that. You weren't seeing the uh the entrepreneurs on TV. And if they were entrepreneurs, you didn't know that they were entrepreneurs. They was already on TV.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

And no one used that word. I had such that that You said that before, too. Yeah, that word it bothers me. And there's no other real way to describe now, anyway, in the current vernacular that everybody uses. You know, you can't just say, Oh, yeah, I'm a business owner. Well, what the hell does that what does that mean? Yeah, I'm in entrepreneurship. People go, okay, start stuff, I don't know what it is, but whatever. I didn't like that in the beginning because everybody made it out to be so much sexier than it actually was. Because it's not it's not sexy, it's hard as hell. And you are taking out the trash. You're driving a floor scrubber, you're driving a truck, you're in a manufacturing warehouse, you're on phone calls late at night and early in the morning. And I don't care if it's something as cool as marketing or graphic design, you're sitting in a room together talking about fucking variations of pan-tone colors and fonts and white space, and you know, so the the whole concept of like this is all sexy, there's nothing sexy. Maybe the only thing that is sexy is like, you know, theoretically being a high fashion model where you walk in and get a photo taken and leave and they pay you a million bucks. Yes. That sounds good. Or Charlie Sheen when he was the highest paid TV actor for uh whatever show he was on. I can't even remember the show. Yeah, they're paying him something crazy. Yeah, like a couple million bucks an episode. Yeah, he was getting and he was like, it was the easiest job in the world. He was like, and I was printing money. So yeah, that that seems cool. Everything else is hard. It is hard. So going back to the borrowed dreams thing, you know, I lived that in in the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

Yeah, I was ready to act you. So before we get into you lived that in the beginning, what were your if if you knew, uh, when you were a kid, what did you want to be? I remember me saying some things that I wanted to be when I was a kid, and I don't know where I got them from. It was like I wanted to be a lawyer for some reason. I don't know, maybe I just thought that felt important and felt cool saying it to my parents made them feel happy. Like, yeah, a lawyer. Then I wanted to be a football player, and then that kind of like just dwindled, dwindled down. I was like, I wanted to be a football player, but I wasn't working hard to be a football player. Yeah, I was just playing football.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

I remember in fifth grade, rolling Knowles Elementary School, go Rockets, Rolling Knolls Rockets, roll elementary, uh, go dolphins. We had to make a poster and it said, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I wanted to be two things. I wanted to be an athlete and I wanted to be an artist. Those are the two things I wanted to be.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

That's crazy because I don't think I wanted to be an artist when I was young. I wanted to be an actor at a certain point in time, maybe going into high school, because I'm a very strong comedic person. So I think I wanted to be an actor. I never said I wanted to be an artist, but I did artist art my whole life and never thought about being an artist.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah, I I eventually kind of changed. You know, I got to high school and you figure out the social hierarchy of things. And you're like, all right, athletes are getting it. So I think I'm gonna start focusing on sports. So that could be a part of that borrowed dream. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was borrowed, I think it was mine, and I just looked at the social capital at the time of being an athlete versus an artist, and I'm like, all right, I think I'm gonna go with with sports.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Yeah. So sticking to sports and you being in the sports community and sports just strong, how many, how many borrowed dreams do you think the parents are putting on their kids now in sports? Because now you see the parents out there like strong. Like the way youth league sports are being played now. I mean, I haven't seen these young kids who play basketball on these traveling teams. It's brutal. I'm like, I played basketball. We probably played at the rec center and we played against different teams. You know, Annapolis probably had, we probably had like three teams, which was Powell, Annapolis All-Stars, and Crusaders, Football, and Mount Olive Church. I played baseball for my church, which is Mount Olive, and we had baseball. But now you see these they got these traveling teams. People are traveling to Disney. They're going every weekend and in like different states, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, like doing basketball tournaments. And I'm like, that is so expensive. And like, does the kid really want to play that like that? Or did the kid say, hey dad, I like basketball? Hey, mom, I like basketball. And then, well, if we want to play, is it a conversation? You sit down and talk to your kid, like, look, if it's what you want to do, that's what we're gonna do. Or is it like maybe a kid, or maybe is it a parent living, what's the word, vicariously?

SPEAKER_01 15:38

Yeah, vicariously.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Yeah, through through the kids at some point.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

Yeah, I think it's a mix. Yeah, I think it's a mix. And I think for kids, and I'll just speak specifically for mine. I give them the option to tell me what they want to do, and then I tell them what's required. So if you want this thing, this is what's required. Or if you don't want it, and you give it away. If you don't want it, and and a great example is my youngest son, very athletic, was asked to go play on an AAU type basketball team. And he went, didn't like the coaches, culture was a little too high pressure for uh I think he was in third grade at the time or something, and he's just sitting there going, What are we doing? And so after that basketball season, he goes, I don't like this at all. I want to go play rec with my boys. So I'm like, let's go. So we took him out of it, put him in rec. Was he one of the best players in rec? Yes, he was. Did he have the most fun ever? Yes, he did. And so for him, as it applies to that sport specifically, whenever he decides I want to take this to a different level, I sit him down, I say, This is what's required, right? And it goes back to this whole thing of like 200 shots a day, a hundred with each hand or for lacrosse. Um, and so that's your report card for the week. That's the bare minimum of what's required. So 1400 shots in a week, and then that's your report card. How many did you do this week? If it's a hundred, you got an F. Right. If it's fourteen hundred, you got an A plus. And when they're ready to commit to that level, just doing the baseline stuff, you say, okay, this is what's required next. Right? Because they can do the baseline. That doesn't mean they're doing everything else. That's just the bare minimum.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Yeah, that's just the bare minimum. So that's like a C average.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Yeah. And so what I just tell them is whatever you want to do, I'm just gonna tell you how to do it. And if you want to do it, that's what's required. And if you're not getting the results you want, we're just gonna go back to kind of a very black and white metric driven life. Are you doing what's required to be the best version of yourself? Yes or no? And if the answer is no, I don't want to hear you bitching about playing time. Right. I don't want to hear you bitching about you're not starting or you're you got cut from the team or whatever. Are you doing what's required? Yes or no? And if the answer is no and you don't want to do it, pick something else to do. Because when you figure out how to master a subject and accomplish goals, that is a template for everything in life. So going back to this borrowed dreams concept, I think it's really, really important that people have their dream and not somebody else's borrowed dream or the dream that has been imposed on them. Because if if it is not your dream and it's you going to law school, and it comes down to understanding the intricacies of law in every aspect of it, and you feel like it's work and you're frustrated and you're annoyed, you're not going to thrive. You have with your free time, yeah, you've got to be out practicing law or studying law, just reading it, or shooting the lacrosse ball, or shooting the basketball, or drawing, or painting, or singing, or composing, whatever it is. So borrowed dreams, I do think get imposed on children because so many parents never accomplished what they wanted to accomplish. They do want to live vicariously through their child, and in doing that, they say, you know, you could go to the NFL, you could go to the NBA. And that that sounds amazing. That sounds amazing, especially to a kid, until you start getting into what's actually required to get there.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Yeah, or you run into that person whose dream is to go into the NFL, and they'd be like, and they and they up like four in the morning, or they'd be like, nah, man, I'm going, I'm going here, such and such. Because I remember when I was in school and I was doing my work, and all my homeboys would be going out, and they'd be like, Where Mo? Oh, Mo in a computer lab. Yep. You know, Mo don't come out of a computer lab until the school is closing, and then I'll be outside. So that'd be like 10 o'clock. Yeah. And then I'm out like, hey Mo, look, we know where you're at. We're gonna be here when when you when you get from out there. Sometimes I'd be in there, supposed to be doing some work, but I get uh inspired and start doing my own artwork. Yeah. It was a lot of days like that, but I loved it. I would just stay in the I stay in school till it opened, till it closed.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Well, and if you look at your trajectory versus everybody else that you know, for the most part, I'm sure there's some outliers here and there. You did it. Yeah, because even though sometimes it probably doesn't feel like you did it, but if you were to go back in time to when we first met and you were doing graffiti in the Tessie Mays headquarters for like five hundred bucks, and you could fast forward and go, Hey man, when you're this age, you're gonna be making this. You're gonna be married with a beautiful child, living in this house, doing these things, having whatever you want to be doing happen, going on vacations. Is this a is this your dream? You're gonna be like, yeah, it is. Right. And I think the biggest issue a little bit with dreams is we move the goalposts all the time. Every time the goalposts is still dude, you're you've already moved it. Yeah, you hit your dream eight years ago. And but that's the nature of dreams. And so the borrowed dream concept and I almost think it is healthy because if it is your dream and you reach it, you realize what you're capable of. And you go, I think I was dreaming too small. Maybe I can be this. And so you move it again. But you do need to maintain perspective because this concept of like never being satisfied, a part of it, great, love it. You know, you stay hungry, you stay ambitious, you you keep moving forward, but it's also draining. If you're never satisfied and you're always searching and you're always wanting, you can't ever really find any peace. You get addicted to the hunt. You get addicted to the hunt for sure, right? You've got a fucking barn full of animals and antlers and skins and freezers full of meat, and it's like you're still waking up every morning and you're going for that hunt. You know, you're not enjoying the feast, you're not leisurely hanging around enjoying a sunset in uh your spoils. And you know, that is the human disposition, unfortunately. Yeah. Because what all of the great things and all of the risk tolerance that allowed you to go out on your own and follow your dream is the same thing that keeps you hungry.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

You know? Yeah. I guess you just never. You just always I mean, you just always want to evolve or always want to Well, you gotta train your yeah, you gotta train yourself to find peace.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

I think that's the big thing that I have been really trying to work on a little bit is finding peace, perspective, happiness, peace, not so much happiness, but but peace. I think peace is the ultimate form of joy and happiness and everything that any kind of entrepreneur or athlete or fucking warrior could ever ask for, which is like these moments where you just are at peace. That is the goal.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Yeah, because I I wonder sometimes, because sometimes you see after people get done the NFL, if that were their dream, but then they go on after the NFL and they do some people who don't do anything, but some people you hear of they do amazing stuff that outshines their NFL career. Like Shaq. Like Shaq. Shaq's a bajillionaire. Shaq's the man. Ken Griffey Jr. He's a billionaire, I heard. I don't know anything about my guy Ken Griffey. And he takes photos at at golf tournaments. He's like a professional photographer. Really? I believe. Via social media, that's what I seen. But I watched something else that said he like he did like some, I guess, investing in businesses and became just for, I guess, leisure. He's a photographer and he loves taking photos.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

But you know, Shaq learned the the hard way. His wife divorced him. He he said he was living in a I think his 70,000 square foot mansion or something alone. And he just did an interview, I think, and he was saying how he was like, My wife was beautiful, my life was perfect, and I fucked the whole thing up. And he's like, It was 100% all my fault. And that's the other thing of striving and not being able to have perspective or peace, is like you got it, you got everything. And you don't know how to that on and off switch. Well, and it is that you know, Paolo Coelho had it, and the four obstacles to achieving your personal legend. The fourth one is uh the self-sabotage side. You talked about that one a lot. Well, I mean, how many people have we seen at the finish line just figure out a way to fuck it up?

SPEAKER_00 27:15

We've seen or know it and just go and you said something like that.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Uh you said, and somehow they believe that they don't deserve it, so then they renouncing joy and conquest, and this is a direct quote renouncing joy and conquest has a saintly aura about it. You know, like I don't need these riches and spoils.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

You know, I just told myself I don't need an Oscar because I'm getting tired of trying to taste it. I'm like, yeah, it's all right, man. I don't even I don't need it, but I think I still do. I would like one. I would enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Well, again, if if if it's your dream and it's not a borrowed dream, because I do think that's the interesting part of this concept of borrowed dreams, it's like, why do you need it?

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Well, maybe I'm trying to do uh reverse psychology because you said God gives you things when you no longer want them. Well, that's like, yeah, I don't want that Oscar. So maybe I'm trying to trick myself.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

That's really funny. Yeah, that reverse manifestation of saying you don't want it.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

I just wrote myself a $20 million check and I put it in my wallet. That's good. Yeah, I heard uh Jim Curry say he did that.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

I did that too. It hasn't come yet. Mine was for bigger than that, and I put it in my wallet, and he's like, and I just would go up on that hill and I would pray until I felt like I was the greatest actor that's ever lived, and then guess what? I got all the money. And I'm like, wrote that shit out, put it in my wallet. Well, mine's only one day old right now.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

So all right, come on now. Let's go, baby. Now I'm I might void it and put more money on it.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Yeah. Um, but it's interesting the whole concept of prayer and manifestation. I mean, I literally wrote I'm so obsessed and interested with that, I like wrote a whole book on it. Like, explain to me why some prayers go unanswered or why some dreams go unfulfilled, and why some people give up, and does manifestation really work? And is manifestation just like another form of prayer with a fancy word on top of it? And so I do think it's interesting, and again, I guess all of this ties back to this concept of dreams. Like for a dream to actually come true, you have to fully it's gotta be yours, and you gotta plan, you gotta believe a hundred percent, zero doubt, and you gotta put in place a plan, an actual plan, yeah, and work towards it every single day. And even, and you sent me another great video the other day, Napoleon Hill in his rare recordings, one of my favorite six disc CD sets. Got that on there, I got that in my my iTunes. Um, but it was just talking about the delay in your dreams coming true. And the longer the delay, the bigger the reward, allegedly. Right. So my rewards are about to be gigantic. Right. Because that shit has been delayed for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

Yeah. Cause I I uh I also seen something that said, uh God will show you the dream, but he won't show you the journey. Cause then you're gonna be like, nah, I don't want it. Yes, yes. He said, He'll show you the dream, but he won't show you the journey. He said, now what if he showed you the dream, but then he said, uh, okay, you're gonna get in an accident, and you may be paralyzed, or or or you're gonna get, or this is gonna happen, this is gonna happen, you're gonna have to go there, you're gonna be homeless for seven years, and then and then you look at the dream, and you look at the journey like yeah, now I'm good. So he said, that's why I just show you the dream, and then the uh journey is to prepare you to meet the requirements to achieve the dream. So I thought that was very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Yeah. I mean, I do think sometimes I I wish I could see the journey. Now it is the ultimate test of faith.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

I think the journey is probably the best part, even though you don't see it, but you just live it. Dude. I think you're gonna miss. You're you're probably gonna miss the journey. When you achieve the dream, I think you're gonna miss the middle part the most. Maybe. I think so. I believe so. In short-term things that I did, like I was working down at uh Wildwood, New Jersey, living in these beach houses, and I think it would be a lot of people coming, it was just like this apartment, and it was like me. I had a couple friends who I used to run uh amusement park stuff at Six Flags. So the company who ran the uh airbrush booth at Six Flags hired me to go down Wildwood, New Jersey and running run on a pier. So, man, it was like we had this like dorm room, and then they had some people from Jamaica to come over and they just worked the beach during the summer to raise money, and then they would go back. So it was all of us in there. And while I was there, it was so boring because all my friends back home in Annapolis, they have fun, they going to the parties, and I'm gonna be like, Man, hate this. Then the boardwalk was kind of dry and empty, it wasn't really jumping off, uh-huh. And I was just up there just hating it. But sometimes I look back at the pictures and then I think back, I'm like, man, that was really a nice time, man. I was having a good time. But when I was in it, I was like, man, I don't like this, man. It's boring. So, but but yeah, so that's that was my thought pattern. Once you reach the dream, I'm probably gonna miss the journey. I'm probably gonna miss learning that new app or learning that new thing that I can do in my art program that I just learned and I start using it a lot. You know, once you reach the dream, I don't know how much more learning you get. But then again, like you said, you move the goalposts. So maybe once I reach that dream, it's gonna be something else, and then I get to embark on another dream.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Well, I'll tell you, we've known each other for so long, I don't even know how long, and we've been grinding for I don't know what, 16, 17 years or something. Work life, and it, you know, dude, we continue to learn and we continue to grow and we continue to evolve, and you know, we're like post nuclear war cockroaches that just will not fucking die, or we are dandelions in the middle of a sidewalk growing through the pavement. We find to get it, dude. We find a way, and so um I'm ready for the next phase and the next set of goals after accomplishing kind of a massive goal, right? Because we're real good at staying positive in the shit. Real good. No one's better.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

I'm ready to see how good we are. You know, it goes back to almost that UFC comparison that Dana White always says, he goes, they're asking why these like super elite fighters after they win their first couple championships totally fall off when they were so dominant. Right. And he goes, it's real hard to wake up at 4 a.m. and silk sheets. Right? Right, yeah. So can we do that next phase? Can we make a billion dollars and still wake up at 4 a.m. and silk sheets? That would be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

I think we did that in on small terms, yeah. Like you were in your townhouse, and then you went to your other house and you woke up. Well, and obviously that was better than your townhouse, and then you went to that house, and then now your your current house you wake up, which probably was better than your other house. So I think I think you just adapt and you just keep on rolling. So I'm pretty sure we're just gonna adapt. Just gonna be bigger projects. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 36:12

So to wrap it up, borrowed dreams versus real dreams versus your dreams.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

So how would a person know if it was their dream and not a borrowed dream?

SPEAKER_01 36:26

When it's your dream, it consumes you. It is an obsessional desire. Going back to that obsession post. Yeah, everything you think about is that it's does this make me better? Why am I doing this? You know, I used to go on runs and I would repeat why I was working so hard to myself during these runs. Everything I was doing was because it was my dream, it was no one else's dream. And I think the best part of about it was it was my dream and it was only my dream, and nobody else thought the dream was real or that it could happen. So it made the pressure of me accomplishing that dream so much more, which you know, pressure makes diamonds. And that's how you know because if you have to get yourself off the couch, fuck man, I don't feel like shooting today, I don't feel like doing art today, I don't feel like building a business today, I don't feel like singing today. It's not your dream, somebody else's dream. But sometimes you do, you do get tired of like, oh man, I don't feel like and then you say to yourself, This is my dream. And if I don't do it, who's gonna do it for me? Nobody. So that that to me is really the only test because there is no other real test. There you know in your soul when no one else is around at 4 a.m. when you're writing in your journal, is this my dream or is this somebody else's? You'll know. You'll know. You'll know. Yeah, you'll know. It's like love. Yeah, you'll know. You'll know.

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You'll put it through all the ringers. Yeah. And then it still comes down again. It'll feel different. Yeah, that's me. I remember I quit my shoe job. I just walked up to the front after going back, get a pair of shoes for somebody. Just went up to the front to the manager. Hey man. I think I just want to draw for the rest of my life. That was just a cold turkey. I'm out. Yeah, I'm going home, man. Because I think I was already home working on something, and I had to stop what I was doing because I had to go to work. Yeah. So then yeah, I think that was the last day. But I did like working retail during the Christmas holidays. It was it was nice. A lot of people come in and got to talk to everybody, had the music jamming, shout out to DTLR, out the Naples Mall. We had a good time, man. Me, Turn, Buddy. We had everybody. Yes. Beautiful time.

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All right. Greg Better Podcast, Moe Taylor, are your dreams borrowed? College boy.