Muscle Is the Real Anti-Aging Hack (And No One Talks About It)

What if everything you’ve been told about metabolism, fat loss, and aging is wrong?

In this episode of Mojo and Co, Kattie and her husband break down the real reason most people struggle with weight, low energy, and feeling “off” in their body, especially as they age. And it’s not your metabolism magically slowing down.

It’s muscle.

From boosting metabolism and burning calories at rest, to balancing hormones, preventing injuries, and increasing confidence—this conversation dives into the five powerful reasons why building muscle is non-negotiable for long-term health and quality of life.

They also challenge common fitness myths (like “muscle weighs more than fat”), expose why most workouts don’t actually change body composition, and explain how strength training directly impacts hormones like testosterone and growth hormone.

If you want to age stronger, feel more confident, and stop guessing what your body needs, this episode gives you the clarity most people never get.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

When you aid, you're either going to be thriving or surviving.

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:05

This is where I said like when I said earlier, like muscle's non-negotiable. It this is where it's at. Like if you want to age gracefully, if you want to thrive as you start getting in your forties. I mean nowadays it's 50s, 60s, and like look at our parents. Like there's there's signs, right? And it's like You gotta have the muscle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Welcome to Mojo and Co. The podcast for unapologetic midlife women who are done playing small, done guessing, and done fighting their body instead of understanding it. I'm your host, Katie Fleet, and this podcast is for women who are ready to get their mojo back. Their confidence, their power, and the connection to their body back. We talk hormonal, confidence, body image, relationships, and real life with zero filters and absolutely no BS. Nothing is off limits here. If you're ready to feel powerful in your body again and remember who the heck you are, you're exactly where you belong. Let's go. Welcome back to Mojo and Co. Podcast. My handsome little hubby is joining me today. I'm back. You're back, baby. You probably don't like the fact that I said little, do you?

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Hell no, no one. Sorry. This is especially about this topic we're talking about today. I don't really talk about little.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

My giant husband.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Yes, that's a lot better.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

The Hulk is back.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Yeah, back by popular demand, right? It's like people are. I just gotta give the people what they're begging for.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

I mean, you know what? We gotta give them what they ask for. Give them give the people what they want.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

That's hey, that's the bottom line.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Your hair's looking good.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Thank you. Yeah, I feel it feels it feels a lot better, right? Yeah. Yeah. About a month ago, I think it was when we last time I was. A month or yeah, four to six weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

It's definitely looking a lot better. I love the little curl on the back.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

I'm almost there.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

I know. You've got what, like maybe another month or two before it's like full European flow.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

He said Junior July, so we're getting close. A couple more months.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

There you go. All right. Yeah, so yeah, maybe two to three.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

I'm still rocking the hat. I'm only still rocking a hat. I've only gone out a couple times in public without a hat.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

But I like hats. You look good in hats. You look good in hats. I like to wear hats. I love hats. I would wear a hat every day if I could.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

I purchased nine hats the other day. So I know.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

He literally did. He went to the mall just to purchase hats and comes home with a bag full of hats. But in your defense, there is this one style of hat that you you only will wear this style.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Yeah, I do have a I know when we're talking about small. I have a I have a peanut sized head.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

A peanut what did you say?

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Not a peanut. Peanut.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Oh, peanut.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

Peanut sized peanut sized head, not a peanut sized head. I guess.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

I was like, well, I mean, that's depends on the person.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah, I guess you could say that. This so there is only one, like I could never wear a bucket hat or fitted hat, a trucker style hat. They just do not sit up.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

What brand is yours? It's like 47.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

47. Yeah. It's uh from Lids. I don't I well, I get it at Lids. I don't know if Lids makes it or not, but it's a 47 brand. Some people call him a dad hat because I have like the strap in the back and comes.

SPEAKER_01 3:01

Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

I didn't know that's what they were.

SPEAKER_00 3:03

But I'm a dad, so well, that's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

If the shoe fits.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

Yeah. So I got the the dad hat and the pair of white new balances, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Okay, dude. Literally, you okay. We gotta tell this story really quick, and then we will get into what we're actually talking about. But he was, I don't even remember where we were going. Where were we going? But he needed, he was like, I need a com a pair of comfortable walking shoes. Okay. And he sends me a picture. I don't know where you were. I think you were in dicks or something, and he sends me a picture. And I was like, absolutely not. You will not be wearing those. I'm like, you have to be a certain age to wear them.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

You're gonna offend people by this because I'm telling you, they're wildly popular shoes. And people wear them and love them.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

This is why I'm not going to say the brand.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Oh, I'm gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

No, don't say it.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Because I don't want women coming after me, like, oh my god, Katie, I wear that brand. But literally, I just can't picture you wearing these shoes. I know they were comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

And then I have friends who wear them, they're swear by them. They're the most comfortable pair of shoes you're ever gonna put on your feet.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

And I I was just like, absolutely not. You're just gonna have to get blisters.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Yeah, so but we got some.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Oh my gosh, you did. All right. Oh shoot. Okay, well, let's talk about um the importance of muscle, shall we?

SPEAKER_00 4:15

Yes, that's yeah, 100%. It's huge, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:18

So I want to just kind of dive into let's keep it short and sweet. Five reasons why muscle is so important. Yeah. So we'll start, we'll start with you. Like you start with one.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Well, I mean, first and foremost, it's gonna be just as far as like you know, the you know, your metabolism, right? Like, so when everybody talks about like, well, I don't have the my metabolism's not as you know what it was when I was in my twenties, and and you know, I metabolism doesn't slow down, it's just your body changes so much.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Right. It doesn't stop because you turn 40.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Yeah, we stop moving, we stop privatizing muscle, and the the thing about muscle is you know, you don't use it, you lose it, right? So the biggest thing for I would say the number one thing like muscle is going to determine like how your body is you know loses fat and how your metabolism actually works. So if you are not doing anything to build and strengthen your muscle, you are always gonna struggle in that area. Yeah, period. Yeah, you know, and like I said, it's not even this is like not like when I say something like this is not optional. If you want your body to function and all the things that we're gonna talk about, you have to have muscle. It is the fountain of youth. Yeah, uh without it. I'm just telling you, like it is going your body is not going to function the way that it should.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

So well, and fat loss too, like people don't realize, you know, especially women that use they love to throw around the word toned. Yeah. Right. Like they love using that word, which I get it. Like every woman wants to be toned, you know what I mean? But that's muscle. Yeah. And if you don't have the muscle, then it's gonna be you're not gonna be, you're not gonna lose the fat. Yeah, you know, and the more muscle you have, the more calories you're gonna burn, which means your metabolism is going to increase as you build your muscle.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Yeah, and to kind of piggy off that what you just said though, it's not even about the calories you burn, it's the calories you burn at rest, right? And that's why when people like, when people like nowadays, especially like we have all the Peloton apps, we have all this, you know, the little wearable devices. Well, like, and you see people like, well, and they and they post it on social media, like, I burned 400 calories a day in my workout. I'm like, that's wonderful and great. But I promise you, you you probably went to Taco Tuesday right afterwards or had a margarita or had some chip, and all those calories you burned at rest during that crazy ass hit workout that probably just stressed your body out, and you're doing burpees and box jumps and rope slams and you know, all the things. It's like that's wonderful. But I did a 45-minute strength training workout, and I could give a shit how many calories are burned at rest because I know the muscle that I am working and providing, it's gonna burn calories throughout the day.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

So it's like you have to always ask yourself, are you worried about how many calories you burn in that 30 to 45 minute session? Or are you actually worried about how your body is burning calories throughout the when you're not doing anything? That's why you'll never see me or you doing some of those styles of training. Okay. I'm not saying they're they're not bad.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

But if you're not working in strength training, if you're not progressively overloading and stimulating the muscle and doing like that, is why a lot of women who feel like they're doing a hell of a lot, yeah, don't really actually see results because the style of training they're doing is not meant to change the body composition. Yeah, it's meant to give you a hell of a work. It's it's meant to burn calculus. It's not meant to burn calories, but you feel like you sweat. You give energy, you get everything, you give energy, you get energy. But just because you're working out and giving energy doesn't mean you're doing anything to actually radically change the body composition. Yeah, so that's why we're so hell-bent about like, hey, like it's it's about muscle, muscle, muscle.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

And anything that we do from a nutrition standpoint to a training standpoint, our whole entire goal is to not lose any kind of muscle mass whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Well, especially as you get older.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Yeah. And that's where we always have a problem. Like, we're not against the GLP ones and those, but when you just do those types of things, it's like, honey, all you're doing is starving your body. And as you starve your body, you're gonna lose a shit ton of muscle, and you're just actually damaging your metabolism over and over again. Now, yeah. If you're gonna utilize those things and use them what they're actually should be for, and you've got the foundations, then now we're talking about as long as you're hitting protein and hitting your caloric intake and as your strength training, yeah, those are great tools to use, but you gotta earn the right to use them.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

Exactly. So exactly.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

But I would say that would be the number one thing. And then, you know, like even how your body, like as far as carbs and insulin sensitivity, like that's gonna really help the more muscle you have as far as like how your body uses them. Yes, how it raises it. And then, you know, just and I told you earlier, I was like, it it once you change your body composition and you do have that muscle, it makes fat loss sustainable. Yes, meaning you're not gonna keep putting a bunch of fat back on. The reason why people lose a bunch of weight and then they put it all back on is because they never did the right things to build the muscle, which is gonna in turn, you know, keep that fat and be.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

The more muscle you have too, like I said, it's you know, the more calories you're gonna burn, which is also in turn going to allow you to eat more. I mean, that's why a lot, I mean, I'm a small person, but I have a lot of muscle and I can eat some people under the table. And some people are like, oh my gosh, how do you eat that much and stay so lean? And it's because I've earned it. You know, I've I've earned, I've literally trained my metabolism through muscle building to burn at a very high rate, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

And that's why two people can look yes or two people can weigh exact same and look totally different. Totally different. And yes, you know, you get I get a lot of the women that get on these calls, and like they say, Well, I know muscle weighs more than fat. If I'm like, number one, who the fuck told you that? Because it's 100% not true. Just muscle does not weigh more than fat. A pound is a pound is a pound. Yeah, yeah. Five pounds of fat and five. It takes up less space. Yeah, that's why people look at hearing different. So you always ask your guys like, do I want to look a certain way or do you want to weigh a certain number? Yeah. Right. And those are two different goals. Yeah. So uh, and it's hard because society does like we don't you don't know what you don't know, right? And people kind of like are always gonna be kind of really worried about that scale number, and which the scale number is important because it's important because I won't lie.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

If you are obese, you know, you have you're you've got actual weight to lose. But I I have found that in all the years that I've been doing this, women will get down to a certain weight. And I'm like, okay, this is the fun part. You know, are we still trying to lose weight? Is that the main driver? Or tell me what you want to look like because that might not actually be that 120 pounds that you think you want to weigh, that might not actually be what you need to weigh in order for you to look like what you want to look like.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

When you say you desire to look like 100%. So yeah, I'd say number one would be your you know just how your body functions as far as like fat loss, metabolism without muscle. It's like you're just gonna be playing uh a constant guessing game. Yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Okay, moving on. Next, I would say um a big one would be stability and injury prevention.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Yeah, strength, injury preventation, yeah, yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

It protects your joints, right? Especially as we get older, things like osteoporosis, uh broken hips. Like one in two women, as I can't remember what age it is, but one in two women will have a hip fracture. Yeah. And it's like, well, guess what? Guess who's not gonna have one? The woman who has the muscle to protect her bones.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

Yep. And we have all these, you know, you know, our body the way it is, it's like we have all these, you know, our muscles or I'm sorry, our bones, they don't move by themselves inherently. They're meant to move, but the muscle actually moves the joints, right? So if you have the more muscle you have surrounding those joints, the less, you know, you're gonna have like low back pain or and and problems with that area. Same thing with your like you get people all the time, I got knee pain or you know, elbows, things like that. I mean, those things can be hurt by overuse. Sure. But they can also be just be hurting by like you don't have the surrounding muscle tissue to actually, you know, prevent injury there. So protect it. Yeah, that's a big one, just that injury prevention for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

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SPEAKER_00 13:17

Yeah, I mean, you're gonna mean again.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Yeah. I think the biggest one is we talk about it all the time, both in men and women, testosterone is a very important hormone for both female and male. And uh, that is one of the best ways that you can naturally increase that is by strength training and building your muscle. And you both men and women have to have that testosterone.

SPEAKER_00 13:45

Yeah, and that's why we're seeing so much, like, you know, there's obviously so many med spas and so much dysfunction that's not there because again, a lot of people nowadays their body compositions are not where they need to be. They don't have the muscle mass. So then all of a sudden their hormones start getting out of whack, their testosterone starts to drop. And then, you know, also one thing that a lot of people don't talk about is that that the growth hormone is how that right. That's why you're seeing such the popularity in hormone replacement therapy. And you're also seeing the the popularity of peptides, right? Because a lot of the peptides that people are taking is what it does, is it stimulates that growth hormone. Yeah, right. And those two things are just critical as far as you know, your energy levels and and like how your hormones operate. And then you know this. And your results. Yeah, and you know this too, like when your hormones are out of whack, a lot of things can get out of whack. I can't tell you the tea.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

We look at you know, people's blood work and and I'll be you know reviewing their labs. And I can't tell you the last time that I looked at uh woman's labs and I was like, wow, these are perfect, you know what I mean? Like almost always, unless they are already on HRT, almost always it's like they have the testosterone of like like there's none, you know, but the you know, normal range is so low because again, you take the average American. Well, the average American, we've talked about this, I feel like a million times, but the average American, you know, has no testosterone. The average American also feels and looks like shit. So that is what they're basing their averages are, you know. Averages does not mean optimal. There's a big difference. Normal does not mean optimal. So, you know, those are things that we look at in blood work. And, you know, when I see that a woman has like, and and man uh or men, um, when they don't have any testosterone, I well, I also that's not surprising because I can look at someone and know that while they don't have a lot of muscle, like of course they're not gonna have a lot of testosterone.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Yeah, and then you know, you know, and then it affects libido and all the other things and all sorts of stuff. Um, you know, mental health for sure. Depression and anxiety, those types of things. A lot of times I would say it's you know, people are misdiagnosed with some of those problems just because their hormones are so out of whack.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Agree.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Right. Um, and until you fix it's like one of those things, like you until you you can't just keep putting a band-aid on it. It's you got to get down to the root problem and fix it. A lot of it can be fixed by lifestyle changes. Right. That's a huge part of it. And it should be. And it should be. That should be the number one thing. Like, if always before you do anything, like fix the lifestyle. Like, yes, let's move our bodies, let's eat, let's put the fuel that we need, let's strength train, let's do that, and then let's see at that point in time if we've done so much damage that we need to support, then we support from there. Yeah, for sure. Exactly. So, yeah, but it's a big thing for sure. Like, I mean, that's yeah, and that's why I'd say like you've got to think. I always like look at things in trends and you look about well, why didn't we have these problems at this kind of stage 20, 30, 40, 50, whatever years ago? Well, it's like you just look at it. I mean, like how society goes, like how quickly you can get in food, what we're putting in it, how we are sitting down, a whole bunch, right? Like COVID happened, and like everybody's now working at home, they're sitting on the desk, and it's like we're not moving. And I found an interesting thing about the blood work, um, and I'll get off topic here, but I also, and I mean, well, maybe I'll ask there if this is true. I don't think I've really made sure this is true, but I was saying, like, there's there's different reference ranges in different states. It goes by regions and stuff like that. Because if you think about it, the people that are in, you know, the more of warmer clients, they're generally more active, more fitter, more healthy. They're moving quite more. Yep. There's more sunshine, so you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

And then you have less deficiency.

unknown 17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Well, and places like yeah. And if you actually look at that, and it actually makes sense because if you look at the most like the states with the highest, you know, overweight and obesity rates, it's like, oh shit, those are the states that are generally not warm clients all year round.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

So yeah, warm climate, not warm clients. That's climates, I said, but oh, I thought you said clients. I was like, well, that's weird. How do you know if they're warm? Okay, anyways. That's true though.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Yeah, so I mean, okay, it is true. So I didn't know I read it somewhere. I read it in a book. Wow. No, like what's that? Um book warm? What's that? No, what is the um oh dodgeball, the movie when you say read it in a book? Like to strengthen my muscles and my mind.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Um, okay, moving on, next one. I would say longevity and aging, aging, the aging process in general. Well, we we see it all the time. And one thing I always like to reference with my clients is you know, think about what kind of grandma do you want to be? Do you want to be the 70-year-old, the 75-year-old in the football stands, like cheering on your grandkids and able to even walk up the football stands, you know, on Friday nights? Or do you want to be the grandma that has a hunchback that can't walk, can't even go to the grocery by herself, can't drive because you have no muscle. And we we've seen it. I mean, unfortunately, all of my grandparents have passed and um, you know, they they didn't take care of themselves and they were young. They were all young. My I my oldest one, my oldest living grand grandparent was 93. And that is obviously pretty old, but the other ones were not even in their, I mean, they were in their 60s and 70s when they passed, and they just didn't take care of themselves. And you know, we see it all the time. You have two, you are almost 50 years old, and he this man has all four of his grandparents alive, which is just incredible to me. But you have one set that is like, oh my gosh, we talk all the time how like that's how I want to be. When I'm almost 90 years old, that is how I want to be. They drive a Corvette, well, a Corvette and an infinity, and I mean, they just they do not miss any, like any great grandkids games. I mean, there are cheer competitions, there are Braxton's football games, like they don't miss and that, but guess what they do? Yeah, they work out every day.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

You know what's crazy too? I always thought about this, and you know, we talk about like kind of like what like who you role model yourself after and like things like things you pick up and stuff. I like when you talk about your kids are watching you. When I I used to stay at my grandparents' house a lot, you know, overnight parents were out and stuff like that. And you I would go out to my grandparents' garage, and like my grandpa had this like bar hanging from the ceiling with chains, and then he had like and then there was like the little alpine skier and all that stuff like that, and the treadmill, like yeah, all this stuff out there, and I just like what the hell is this stuff for? Well, you know, I've come to find out like the my grandparents were up at 3 30, 4 o'clock every single morning, never miss. They still don't to this day.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

And you know, he's a militar ex-military, so like he is a push-up, pull up regiment. Yes, you know, and my grandmother just tune tune tune. I can remember seeing her on that skier, and it's like yeah, it's like that's when you talk about I always say like when you when you age, you could you're either going to be thriving or surviving.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Yeah, the quality of life is something that you gotta think about.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

Yeah, this is where I said like when I said earlier, like muscle's non-negotiable. It this is where it's at. Like if you want to age gracefully, if you want to thrive as you start getting your forty. I mean, it nowadays it's 50s, 60s, and like look at our parents, like right, some of our parents, not all of our parents, but it's like yeah, there's there's signs, right? And it's like you gotta have the muscle. Yeah, and you know what's funny is like I think about women, especially, and I'm gonna throw you this, like, because you're like where are we going here? Anything that anything that is can anti-aging, right? You are all in.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

I'm like, listen, I don't even know what it does, but sign me up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

Well, and there's some in there's some where you women are putting like salmon sperm and stuff on the room. No, listen, I would stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

You know what? It's funny. One of our clients just got that the other day, and I was like, okay, you gotta give me all the tea. I've not tried that.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

So it's so funny. It's like, well, I don't want to strength train because that's gonna improve the anti-aging because it is the number one anti-aging process to build. That is, but I'm gonna throw some salmon semen on my face. Like, come on now. Like, so you would think women would be like, you would I I just feel like every gym would be packed full of women because if they knew how much muscle is anti-aging because they do all the other shit. You could have to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

That is so you know what? That's so funny. I've never thought about it like that.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Yeah, every gym should be packed full of women with as much as we love all the anti agents.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

If somebody would just market anti aging, it's the ultimate anti aging tool is muscle, then like think everybody would be, especially women would be all in on it.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Yeah. If they actually if they actually understood it. Yeah, that is so true. Oh, that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

All right, last one.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Uh well, I think this is the one that's probably looked That the least. Yeah. And I think this is has this has so many compounding effects that people don't really think about. But it number one thing, and most people are going to say, like, think I'm going to say aesthetics and like, you know, like how you look in the mirror. Obviously, muscle is great for like, you know, the aesthetic part of it. But I think more than anything, it's going to be the confidence in how you carry yourself and like your presence. Right. I mean, you think about a confident person as like, you know, walking tall, shoulders back, chest out, like one of those types of just it's just how you carry yourself in that presence. And the people that, you know, that don't prioritize this, and then obviously their their body's not what it wants to be, they tend to hunch over, they tend to hide, they tend to like not be as outgoing, those types of things. So I would say that'd be the number one thing for me that a lot of people don't think about would be that that confidence and that presence.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Feel good. Or sorry, when you look good, you feel good, right? When you feel good, like it is going to affect how you carry yourself, how you get dressed, the kind of clothes you wear, how you walk into an important meeting, how you walk into your bedroom at night, how you look at yourself in the mirror, how you walk into a Starbucks to grab your morning coffee. Like it affects all of that. And all of that is part of confidence.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

It bleeds into all your relationships. It bleeds into your business, whether you want to admit it or not, whatever you're doing for like a like money making, right? So if you think about all the aspirations and goals and all those things that you want to achieve in life, right? Yeah, without confidence, you're never going to achieve those goals. Just not going to happen. Yeah. Right. You have to be extremely confident. So if I can do something in my life that's going to make me, like you said, feel good, look good, and be my most confident self, why wouldn't I do that? Because I know that's going to carry over to everything else in my life.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Right. Um, doesn't mean you're not going to have bad days because that's good, that's going to come, I promise.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

I think too, the confidence also comes from just like knowing the amount of hard work it takes to look a certain way and then sticking with it even on the days when you don't feel like it. And like those little habits, consistent daily habits, like they obviously lead to the big end result. And you're just like proving to yourself over and over and over again that you could do hard things, you could do boring things, you can do things when you don't feel like it. Like that, that all of those actions also build confidence, you know. So those types of, you know, the that same type of discipline that is required to build the muscle is also the same type of business or the same type of discipline that it is required to build a really successful business. It's also the same type of discipline to have a really successful relationship. You know, it's also the same type of discipline that is, you know, all of the things. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 24:50

So yeah, so that would be. So, like I said, outside of aesthetics, those are the five things that I would say 100% are gonna be why muscle is, like I said, one of the most important things out there.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Yeah. Boom. All right, good job, Twin. Give me a fist bump. All right, until next time, we will see you later.