Mojo & Co
Mojo & Co. is the no-BS podcast for midlife women who are done playing small, done guessing, and done fighting their body. Hosted by Kattie Fleece, fat loss coach, founder of Mojo Fit Co, and the woman behind 10,000+ transformations.
This show dives into hormones, confidence, body image, relationships, and real life with zero filters. If you’re ready to feel powerful in your body again and become unrecognizable, in the best way, you’re exactly where you belong. Let’s go.
Mojo & Co
The 5 Habits That Changed Our Marriage, Confidence & Health
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
In this episode of Mojo and Co., you’re getting a real, honest conversation about the habits that can completely change the way you feel physically, mentally, and emotionally.
If you’ve been feeling disconnected from yourself, struggling with confidence, lacking consistency, or just feeling stuck in survival mode, this episode is for you.
You’ll hear practical conversations about limiting alcohol, moving your body more, prioritizing your relationship, building self-discipline, and finally learning how to keep promises to yourself. Because confidence doesn’t magically appear one day, it’s built every time you follow through on the things you said you were going to do.
This episode also dives into marriage, identity, personal growth, faith, and the reality of navigating midlife without losing yourself in the process. There’s humor, relatable moments, tough truths, and reminders that lasting transformation is usually found in the small habits you repeat every single day.
If you’re ready to feel stronger, more confident, more connected, and more like yourself again, this conversation will hit home.
🌐 Connect With Kattie
Apply Here: https://www.mojofitco.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kattie_fleece/
Learn more about coaching, hormone-aware fitness, and personalized strategies designed specifically for women who want their health to match their success.
When you have that kind of discipline in your body, it just like signals to your brain that I am a woman of my word. And you start to really trust yourself a lot more. You start to build confidence, a lot of confidence that you maybe didn't have prior because you just know, like, hey, if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do something. Welcome to Mojo Co., the podcast for unapologetic midlife women who are done playing small, done guessing, and done fighting their body instead of understanding it. I'm your host, Katie Fleet, and this podcast is for women who are ready to get their mojo back, their confidence, their power, and the connection to their body back. We talk hormones, confidence, body image, relationships, and real life with zero filters and absolutely no BS. Nothing is off limits here. If you're ready to feel powerful in your body again and remember who the heck you are, you're exactly where you belong. Let's go. Welcome back to another episode of Mojo and Co. I got my handsome hubby here with me again today.
SPEAKER_00What's going on?
SPEAKER_01Should we tell him about our date night idea?
SPEAKER_00Oh, about like going, I guess if you want to explain it. That was just a joke.
SPEAKER_01I was in the Kohl's today, okay? Yeah. Because apparently they're the only ones that do Amazon returns around here anymore. I don't know. I hate going into Kohl's, but you know, there's not a lot to do in our town.
SPEAKER_00Is Kohl's like nationwide? I don't even know. Yeah. So everybody's got a Kohl's, or some people do, or some people don't.
SPEAKER_01We got a Kohl's.
SPEAKER_00We got one for sure.
SPEAKER_01All the cool kids have a Kohl's. Okay. Yeah. So, anyways, I go into Kohl's to make this Amazon return, and I come out and I'm just like, freaking Kohl's, you know. And uh, anyways, Dustin said, Sure, share your thoughts. I think this would actually be a really funny.
SPEAKER_00I said, Don't knock on it. You could go in there. I said, You could go in there and find an outfit for like a date night and make it work. And you you kind of argued that fact. And I said, Well, we should we ought to do that. We ought to just go in there one night and I'm talking everything shoes, shirts, sets, and just that's our date night outfit. Yeah. We're gonna rock and rock it and you know.
SPEAKER_01Literally, that would be so fun. But I think we should make it even more interesting. And I think I should pick out an outfit for you, and you pick out an outfit for me.
SPEAKER_00No, because I don't know sizes and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01And well, you could just pick it out and then I'll get my size. Gotcha. And then we wear it literally, wear it out of the store.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm not scared.
SPEAKER_01Or Goodwill. We even said going to Goodwill. Now that would be I've seen people do that.
SPEAKER_00That's for like bachelor parties and things like that. But so funny. No, I laugh when you said like you went into Kohl's. Like I have I literally, I the only thing I ever buy in Kohl's is underwear. Underwear and socks.
SPEAKER_01Then he went on this rant about how awesome Kohl's underwear is.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's not awesome, just saying they got all the, you know, got all the like all the brands in my mind.
SPEAKER_01And you get like 75% off every time you go in there.
SPEAKER_00That's the best thing about Kohl's. Like they are always running a special. It's like it's running our Tuesday special or Wednesday discount.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Hey, that's a day of the week that ends in Y. Let's give 30% off.
SPEAKER_01So well, what set me off was I just I was in a hurry and I was trying to return this Amazon package, and I was already annoyed that I couldn't just go to, you know, a a shipping store. Had to go to Kohl's, and then I was like, I came out and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's like noon on a Wednesday. Why is everybody at Kohl's? And Dustin's like, well, it's their Memorial Day sale. And I'm like, ah, you're right. Yeah. That's what got them.
SPEAKER_00That started in February, but they but yes, it was for today's, it's it's the time's ticking down because it is almost memorial. Because if you go the day after Memorial Day, you're not getting that sale.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00You're getting another another sale.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna get another sale, different sale, and you're gonna get their 40% off keep.
SPEAKER_00And you could also register for a Kohl's card and Kohl's cash and I'm sort of funny. It's like anything else. I mean, it's like everywhere.
SPEAKER_01Dude, but used to like that was our jam. Remember? I used to be obsessed with Kohl's cash. Do you remember that?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Like when we were first married, 20s, yeah. Yeah, I was obsessed with Kohl's cash, and I would go and spend money just to get my Kohl's cash, and then I would go back and spend more money just to spend my Kohl's cash. You know, babe, as much as our audience wants to hear about Kohl's, um, I do feel like we should probably move on from this.
SPEAKER_00It wasn't my idea. I never once brought it.
SPEAKER_01No, your idea was the date night outfit idea, which I didn't know.
SPEAKER_00Well, just because you were shitting on it, I was like, well, I mean, we could make it work. I promise we could find something.
SPEAKER_01All right. Well, yeah, let's transition. We're gonna start a new series, okay? Do you even know? We talked about this, but do you remember?
SPEAKER_00You told me about five days or five weeks. Yeah, okay. Something with the number five in it.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you're right. So for the next five weeks, we are going to do our top five whatever, all right? So every week we're gonna come at you with top five insert, whatever we decide to talk about. So today's episode is top five habits that changed our lives. So we're starting out with a bang. All right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So do you want to start or you want me to start?
SPEAKER_00You go ahead. I like to I like to let you just take the realm and the reins. Not realm. I just lay out.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so I'll go. Uh, we did actually, believe it or not, we actually did discuss these things. Um, so these are things like as a couple that have like really changed our lives. So number one would be limiting our alcohol consumption. I actually don't drink at all. I would say maybe once a year. Like maybe. That's even that might even be a stretch for me. I don't like the taste of alcohol, and I definitely hate the way it makes me feel.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, and my experience with it has just been it's like I probably was like, I was like very heavy into that in the teens, the twenties, and then kind of transitioning out of 30s, and then finally, like, you know, at a point in our marriage, it was like, okay, this is something that it just doesn't serve me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, you know, I don't bounce back, I don't recover. Right. Um, I think my biggest thing with alcohol is always gonna be how it leads to, you know, the being unproductive the next day. Yeah. You feel like shit, you don't want to do anything, and you know, you don't feel like working out, you don't feel like moving, you want to, you know, from my my perspective is like I just want to lay on the couch and eat and because I just feel like crap, right? So, you know, I'm not I don't, I'm not a like, I don't I still drink, um, but I'm definitely not a daily drinker, weekly drinker, monthly drinker. I'm a special occasions drinker, yeah, right. Yeah. Um, I do like to go out, you know, if we go to a nice restaurant, I do like to, you know, see what's on their cocktail menu and see something that's kind of cool and try uh, you know, one or two cocktails out when I'm out at a nice fancy restaurant. Um, but that's it.
SPEAKER_01Well, you're you do like a an espresso martini.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I do. I got turned on to those uh a while back, uh a year and a half ago or so, and I do enjoy those.
SPEAKER_01Um but it's I used to, it was like every time we would go out to dinner, he would have a cocktail or you know, every weekend we would go to the pool and you know well, I don't even know what you drank. What did you drink? Beer? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, everything.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, now we just like we don't do that. Well, not only only that, but I actually have this conversation with a lot of our clients, is um, I don't really think people realize like the effects of alcohol, even if it is just like, you know, a martini or you know, a glass of wine. Like alcohol is a toxin, yeah, right. And so especially if you are in like a fat loss or transformation journey with a goal to transform your body, when you are inputting that toxin into your body, like that becomes your body's number one task, right? So everything else kind of stalls. And it takes a while to recover from that because it'll affect things like quality of sleep, um, hunger cues, you know, um, all sorts of stuff. And so if I personally, if it were me and I was in a season where, you know, I'm trying to lose body fat or lose weight or whatever maybe, I just simply wouldn't drink. Like, period. Yeah, you know, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Please do not, you know, twist my words. I I have no problem with alcohol in moderation at all. Yeah, I just know for me, it doesn't, it doesn't make me feel good. I don't I I just don't like the taste. And so I don't personally enjoy it. But if you are somebody listening to this, like, man, you know, that actually makes a lot of sense. You know, I've been trying to lose body fat or been trying to lose weight. And, you know, I do enjoy, you know, a couple cocktails a week and I do feel like I'm stalled. That honestly is probably why.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And the people that come home and have to have like a drink or two or three, like it generally doesn't always stop at one drink, right? Right. Like that's the problem, I think, the most for most people with it. It's not just early like, hey, I can have one or two to take the edge off, or and then the people say, like, I use it to actually fall asleep, right? I think they don't understand what it's like. It's not a good quality sleep.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh because your body's like while you're sleeping, is like really like trying to get that stuff out of your system so it's at hard at work. Um to, but I will say there are like a times in the in through still throughout my life where I'm gonna go have some fun, I'm gonna have some drinking. Oh, yeah. Um, everybody knows if if you've ever vacationed with me, you know. Vacation dust. Vacation dustin' and he's an alter ego, it's vacation dustin. Yeah, the problem with vacation dustin is he always goes hard on day one and then generally doesn't drink the rest of the time because of what he did on day one. On day one, exactly. That's the issue. But the great thing about um for me now is having the alcohol. It's like a decision I make, I know how I'm gonna feel afterwards, and then I tell myself, like, hey, dumbass, you put yourself in the situation, you still got to do all the things that you normally do, right? So there's not an excuse, like just be like, I can't use that as an excuse anymore. I'm like, this workout's gonna suck because of what you've done to yourself, right? But it's like one of those non-negotiables, right? That you kind of get to. So but yeah, I would definitely agree with that, like getting alcohol, limiting alcohol has been a huge change.
SPEAKER_01Huge change. Yeah, just yeah, quality of life too, you know, and functionality and things.
SPEAKER_00I'm seeing so many people that I know personally that are my age that still are like party and still hitting that lifestyle. It's and it's become a problem, and it's like, man, it's just really totally wrecked. It's not worth a lot of things in our life, relationships and you know, jobs, and you know, so if you actually weigh it out, it's just just not worth it.
SPEAKER_01You just have to make an educated decision.
SPEAKER_00We're all yeah, we're all grown-ups.
SPEAKER_01All right, quick pause to talk about my company, Mojo Fitco, because this deserves a moment. MojoFitCo was built for midlife women who feel off in their body and are just tired of being told to eat less, move more, and deal with it, all right? Women battling hormones, belly fat that comes out of nowhere, low energy, mood swings, and the constant feeling of why do I not feel like myself anymore? Now, look, this is not a basic fitness program, and it is definitely not built by gym bros or 20-year-old influencers. MojoFit Co is built for women, by women, designed specifically for this phase of life. Inside, we don't get it, we don't punish your body, and we don't hand you another plan that you gotta figure out on your own. We look at the full picture. Hormones, metabolism, stress, lifestyle, everything that you need all under one roof. Because you are never too old to get your mojo back, I can assure you that. And you also need support from someone that actually understands the female body at this stage of life. So if you're ready to feel strong, sexy, clear-headed, and confident again in your body, and you're done with all of the free or cheap VS out there, and you want a forever solution, you can apply by clicking the link in the show notes. All right, now let's get back to it. Um, okay, next one would be walking. Just like simply walking every single day. You and I both do it. I think this is probably the most underrated thing people can do, um, just for overall health.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I never realized how important it was. Like, you know, just kind of being in the gym and being a former athlete. And I always thought, well, I'm getting my workout in, that's enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And not realizing, like, man, how much you were actually sitting down during the day. During the day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I always, when I talk to people about like why it's so important, I always do that analogy of like, if your body was a car, right? Like, you know, you the more your car moves, the more fuel it needs to get going. And it's gonna burn a lot of fuel the more it's out, you know, you're out driving around. But if that car is sitting in the garage or parked in the driveway all the time and it never goes anywhere, like, well, it's not burning any fuel. You don't have to keep filling it up. And that's really if you think about fat loss and and you know, kind of getting in phenomenal shape, like movement and walking is the it's it is the it's the one I think a lot of people miss.
SPEAKER_01Yes, agree.
SPEAKER_00They don't realize how important it is. And I didn't really realize how important it is until I actually had that transformation, made that commitment. I was like, holy shit, I my missing ingredient was I'm just not moving enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um well, I think too, um, you know, like you were saying, a lot of times people are like, okay, well, I got my 45 minutes or an hour in the gym, which is great, phenomenal, gotta have it. Obviously, we we know you gotta have the strength training. Um, but then, you know, sitting on your ass for 12 hours after that is like not really doing your body any good. Yeah. And so, like for us, like we just we walk a minimum of 10,000 steps, or I shouldn't say walk 10,000 steps, because I don't want to make it sound like we get on the treadmill and we walk until we hit 10,000 steps. No, we get in 10,000 steps as a as a as a whole, yeah, you know, throughout the day just by moving our bodies. But walking in particular, I know for me, like I've learned to, you know, because let's be honest, I don't always have time to just go out and walk, you know. So I like to have it stack it where I'm actually working while I walk. So I've got a uh walking pad in my office with a little elevated desk to where I can literally, you know, sit there on my laptop if I need to, or if I'm gonna be like on the actual treadmill or even just like walking outside. Um, and if I can't just like enjoy the scenery and I actually gotta get some shit done, then I will have it stack it with things like returning, you know, client messages, checking my email, catching up in Slack, um, even creating content or like things that I can do on my phone or on my laptop while I'm getting my steps in. But, you know, I I think it is the missing ingredient for a lot of people trying to lose body fat. And obviously overall heart health too. Hello.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and it makes sense too, like what you're talking about as far as like it's almost like you're able to think a little bit more clear and things of that nature when you're active. Well, it's just the act, it's just being active, right? Like it's and that's just things you can go back and you look at kids sitting in classrooms all day and stuff. Yes, it's like the ones that are very, very active are able to actually sit there and absorb and think, and the ones that are not are like the ones that really struggle, yeah, um, with those types of things. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know what chaps my ass up? This is always I've never understood this, okay? And please don't come at me. But when when our kids were in elementary school, and this was a thing when they were in school, and it was a thing when we were in school too, is when kids get in trouble, why do they take away their reef their recess and they make them sick?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I never understand.
SPEAKER_01I never understand it because I'm like, actually, that's what these kids need. They need to go out and move.
SPEAKER_00Get some energy out.
SPEAKER_01Like they need to go out and move, get their energy out.
SPEAKER_00Well, you think about it too, you know, like as you you have recess, quote unquote, in where it's like, hey, I'm gonna we're gonna take a little mental break and have recess to let your kids kind of unwind. And then yet when they get into middle school, high school, like they take all that away. Yeah. Right. Then the kids don't have that dike downtime. It is just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, just forcing, you know, shit in their throats all the time. And yeah, it's like, man, that can be that can wear you out. Think about how you are at the end of the day when you're just sitting behind a desk or sitting behind a computer, like you're mentally drained, mentally fatigued. A lot of these guys, a lot of these kids have to do that, and then they have to go right into their sport right after school. It's like if they would just, you know, I I think having that like ability to go out and kind of take a pause, take a break, just go unwind, you know, it's in the gym gets huge.
SPEAKER_02Whatever.
SPEAKER_00Well, when I was in school, and they don't do it nowadays, but like our lunch period was kind of extended to where we could eat lunch and then we they would open up the gym or we could go outside and do those types of things, even when I was in high school. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of times I didn't even eat lunch because I was like, I'm gonna go ball, I'm gonna go play basketball, right? So grab something for a vending machine. Plus, I had to pay people to do my school work, so I had to get money for I mean uh exactly.
SPEAKER_01The truth is coming out. Okay, next one. This is a big one, yeah. And this is something that I will say we are very good at, and that is like just making it a point to still date each other. Yeah. We we'll be married for 20 years in the spring, and uh we've not always, but uh recently, not not super, super recent, but over the past several years, we've just made it a point to still go on a lot of date nights, you know, eat meals together, uh, go on walks with each other, and really just like pour time into each other. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I it's I mean, I don't think it was as prevalent as in the past few years. And a lot of that was when you know, we kind of got on the same same path in a lot of areas of our lives. Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_01Um well, I think too, so many people, and we were guilty of this. I mean, we so many people get married and they just kind of lose themselves, just um, you know, due to like having kids and raising a family, and we've been there, you know, and you at the end of the day, you know, once your kids are raised and they're out of the house so many times, we've seen it happen in our own families. People will be sitting across from the couch from each other and they're like, Who the heck is this? Like, I don't even know who you are anymore, because they they poured their entire beings into you know raising their kids or you know, excelling in their career or whatever, and they forgot to take time for each other. And I know the last several years we've really made it a point to, you know, really just kind of get to know each other and like just have conversations without our phones. And even if it's just like going and grabbing an omelet at at the you know, the Breakfast Co. or whatever it may be, like I know for me, if I don't have that quality time with you, you can attest to this. I get really cranky.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was gonna say, I never I it wasn't something I thought about or even really knew that I needed. Um, it was more of like I knew you needed it and you made it. And that's the thing, you you know, you gotta be able to communicate with your partner, right? So if you don't know what the other person needs, then that's an issue, that's a problem. You literally told me, like, hey, I I need date nights, right? So we do make it a point to generally at least once or twice, maybe even a week, where it was just going out to dinner, just you and I.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, we do staycations where sometimes we just go drop a hotel room, you know, in Indianapolis and you know, or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Wow, wow, no, no.
SPEAKER_00And then we and then, you know, and then obviously we also take one trip for sure by ourselves every year. Every year without the kids, right?
SPEAKER_01And we've done that what the past like probably ten years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And it's just like it's just like, hey, we're we're taking one week where we're, you know, and we and we've been lucky to have you know people around us like our grandparents, grandparents, things like that, you know, to help out and do those things. But kids are pretty self-sufficient nowadays where they would they can kind of well plus they kind of like it when we leave.
SPEAKER_01Like it's almost like a vacation for them, you know, like they get DoorDash every night, like grandma's and grandpa's, they let them do whatever the heck they want. So they they uh they don't mind it, they love it.
SPEAKER_00Day nights get expensive because of the damn. We go out to dinner and then we get a Door Dash bill. I'm like, Jesus, their DoorDash was. Yeah, it's like what are they going to?
SPEAKER_01And then it's like, oh, well, you know, they got they got uh Taco Bell, but then they got their shake from steak and shake, you know. So it's like Yeah, we had to put a stop to that crap. I know.
SPEAKER_00I told Charlie I was like But no, I I would agree with that, like you know, the like making that time because I think what happens is, you know, and I think this is in a lot of things because we talk about like coaching when you when you talk about coaching the women, you really talk about like habit-based things and and like identity shifts, like they have to like become something else in the other version. When you're married and you're having kids, sometimes you can get lost in like your identity as well. My identity is I'm the mother of these kids or the father of these kids, or my identity is my job, right? And then you kind of lose what that means is like you're also a uh a wife and you're also a husband. And if you don't have like that like in the right direction, then you can kind of lose yourself. And then when the kids are gone, it's like, oh shit, now what am I?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or what are we? And then you look at each other like what have we been doing this whole entire time. So I think it's important to kind of keep that going, and it's something that you know I it's had a big impact on our relationship for sure. For sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Because you actually like me nowadays, so uh you know, listen, it depends on the day, but yeah, well, I I know when those are coming up.
SPEAKER_00I got those are marked on my calendar.
SPEAKER_01Well, about once a week. Or not a week, once once a month, he just knows, you know, you just don't breathe on me. Okay, you might just keep your distance. No, but for real, it it has made a big, big um impact just in our marriage and really just how like our our affects our whole household, right? Because we're just you know, win your happy wife, happy happy life, right?
SPEAKER_00Well, I think too, and we'll just get on, we'll we'll move on from this, but also like this is important too, like modeling that to our kids, like our kids. That this this is the expectations when you get married, right? You don't have to just like you know go through the motions and things like that.
SPEAKER_01And back to what I was saying, though, is like when I I think too, there's just kind of like this. At least when I grew up, it was like, no, that's just like kind of what marriage was to me. Like you get married, and then that's it. You're just married. You know, you're just like that's when affection stops, that's when you know, sex stops, that's when date nights stop. You just you get married, you have kids, you raise a family, and then you know, obviously kind of look where that well, look at I mean, like I mean, we're walking examples of that.
SPEAKER_00I mean, like our parents literally went through divorces when their kids left the house. Yeah, right. Right. Right, which is so common though.
SPEAKER_01I mean, that they're um obviously we have we have amazing.
SPEAKER_00Amazing, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, but but yeah, it's just it's so common for that to happen.
SPEAKER_00And you look back and wanna, well, I wonder if they would have done things like this if that would have made a change thing, right? Who knows?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay, moving on. Um I would say uh keeping promises to ourselves just through our lifestyle and just like our daily, you know, non-negotiables, things like getting in our strength training, getting in our steps, like hitting those things like regardless. I was actually having a conversation with one of my clients this morning, and I said exactly that. When you build this kind of discipline in your life just through your body, like when you have that kind of discipline in your body, it just like signals to your brain that I am a woman of my word. And you start to really trust yourself a lot more. You start to um build confidence, a lot of confidence that you maybe didn't have prior because you just know, like, hey, if I say I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do something about it, you know? And um, just the trickle down effect. I feel like we've talked about that a million times, but it's so true. And um, you know, it it really does just develop this self-trust, knowing that you can keep promises to yourself. Now, every day is not gonna be perfect. You might have, you know, throw some wrench, you know, there might be a wrench that's thrown at you uh and uh you you fall off track a little bit, but then you get right back on.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I think it's one of those things when you say something, you mean something. When you say you're gonna do something, you you follow through with it. Yeah. And um I think a lot of times in our what we actually do is a lot of people have talked about, you mean you think about that how many times in in somebody's life or how many times before you told me to like, hey, shut up and actually go do something and stop talking about it, right?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Um, because it is one of those things where like the more you talk about it and you don't follow through with those commitments, well, then you become unlike nobody believes you. It's like, well, they're just they're not really they're really not gonna change, right?
SPEAKER_01Including yourself. Like you don't even believe it anymore.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. Like you that's that's when you say it, yeah, but you don't follow through with it. And I think too, um, just being around people too. Like I've been around some very charismatic, like magnetic people who are able to say a lot of things, and man, they like are amazing. But then when their actions never align with their words, yeah, guess what those words do? Like they don't mean anything. They lose meaning. Like you don't believe them, you don't trust them. It's like you can say that all you want, but your actions are completely different. So with us and what we talked about earlier, I think what's great about where we're at too is like it's almost like we've made a commitment to ourselves to be the best version that we can possibly be of ourselves because when we know and we are in that space, we are better for each other. Yeah, and the great thing about like I love about our relationship is the fact that like we're not afraid to tell each other too, like, hey, you're not you're not you're not hoping. You're not holding up you're holding up your end of the bargain, right? But I mean that's but you have to have that. And it's not you're not saying it to be mean or I'm not, you know, like vice versa. It's just like, look, yeah, this is this is what you said, yeah, and this is where you're at right now. So like fix it.
SPEAKER_01You gotta hold yourself accountable, you know, you know. So but yeah, I mean, you don't want to be one of those people that just constantly makes promises to yourself or sets goals and then never achieves them. Yeah, you know, and a lot of times women will ask me, like, well, how I don't have any confidence. Like, how do you create that confidence? And that would be my number one tip is to follow through on what you say you're gonna do. Yeah. And even if it's little things, it could just literally be like, you know what? I'm gonna put my phone away every night at 8 30 p.m., no matter what. You know, it could be little things. It doesn't have to be like I'm gonna get in the gym seven days a week. Wouldn't recommend that anyway, but um, you know what I'm saying? And just like start doing little, small little things, little habits like that every single day. And those little habits, those they they compound over time. And then eventually you just start building that confidence, like, oh, you know what? I am someone that follows through on what I say I'm gonna do. And um, yeah, you just then you like genuinely believe that gosh, I can achieve anything now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, you have that you have that evidence that like you've got the evidence, like, look, okay, I've proved to myself that that I am a person that can do this, and then it starts transitioning over to every other thing in your life. Right. And it's that uh yeah.
SPEAKER_01All right, the last habit, last but not least, on our top five habits that changed our lives. Do you wanna say the last one?
SPEAKER_00No, you you're you're you're nailing them out. I'm just jumping in.
SPEAKER_01Well, I would say just having a relationship with God and make it a point to you know go to church. I know we were raised very differently. I was raised in church every Sunday, every Sunday night, every Wednesday night. Yeah. You were not. We had very different upbringings.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But um, yeah, but it's changed, I mean, it's definitely changed my life a hundred percent, right? Um, but yeah, I did not grow up in church. In fact, every church when I was young that I went to, I was like, this is nutty. This is crazy. But then I learned that I was not going to all the really necessarily to the places that kind of was can that would that was really more aligned with what I needed and what was gonna serve me.
SPEAKER_01Well, and I think too, we found a church, gosh, almost 10 years ago that we really just felt like was our two churches, like I would say first. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, I know, but then you know, that pastor retired. But like this one, the one we're in now, is um we just felt like home, you know, like really just very down-to-earth people. It's like it seems like the message every week is like speaking right to us, you know, and and um you know, it's it's just made a big difference when you like really focus on having that relationship with God. And I think you you were probably, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, but like you were probably one of those people that like believed in God, but didn't necessarily like have a relationship with that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my parents like they didn't raise me religious in that sense, but it was still like you know, you had there was morals and values and all those things that were that you know are very, very important, right? So it was like I had that belief, like I knew right from wrong and what you know you shouldn't be doing and shouldn't be doing, and but I just never had a relationship with God. Like I know there's a God, people talk about it, but I didn't know how, when, where, what, why, and all those types of things. Very I'm a very skeptical person on a lot of different fronts. Yeah. Like I always want to like think my way through things. Yeah, and that's something that you don't really think your way through, you just you have the the belief and the faith, and then you kind of trust it from there. So and then we have belief and faith in so many different crazy things in this world. It's like so like like to think that's any kind of a stretch is like it's not, you know.
SPEAKER_01Um, but well, and I think too, we've just seen God show up so many times in our life, like so many times, that um, you know, it's just been really, really cool to see. I mean, things that we've gone through, things that you know we thought we could never recover from. I mean, things from just like personally, but also just like business too. And then it's like, you know, years might even pass, and we're like, oh, that was the point of that. There's the lesson from you know, 20 years ago, or there's the lesson from seven years ago, or whatever. And and it's it's been really, really yeah.
SPEAKER_00The proof is the proof has always been there in like every little and I like I said, that's what's been crazy for me is once I found God, I started having that relationship, I started really diving into things, and then you kind of look back at your entire life and go, Oh, he was there the whole entire time. Yeah, you know, like because every little move that I made, every decision that I made led me to where I am right now, and it's like very easily could I gone a different direction. I mean, it I mean, very easily. Like all these little crazy things. And then it's like, oh, okay, cool. There's a there's a purpose, there's a reason, there's a why. And yeah, uh so that's what's been that's what's been awesome.
SPEAKER_01And then um And it's I mean again, uh I sound like a broken rec record, but it's done tremendous things for our marriage and just how we'd raise our children.
SPEAKER_00And well, I mean, not even raising our son, but like our children in general, like our like you know, our son is like, you know, it's just wonderful seeing his relationship that he has built and you know, he's he's way better at things than probably.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, like he's even if there's like like if we're out of town or for whatever reason we can't, you know, go to church on Sunday, like him and his girlfriend are there and with his hands raised and oh my gosh, he's gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, he's got a Bible, brings his Bible, and everything just things that I never like even, you know, he's he's way further along than I ever thought about being in that area. So and I love it.
SPEAKER_01I know. It's like uh so just oh my gosh, it's gonna make me cry.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, that's why I'm over here. I'm trying not to get tears in my eye. I'm trying not to look at it. No, we're getting choked up. Think about these things for sure. Um but yeah, I mean it's been you know, like I said, when I I didn't grow up that way, and like I had, I don't know if I've ever well, I told you that story that one time when I like my first real experience, I was like 10 years old, and I I went on a um like a youth trip, yeah, like with a youth group with a friend of mine, a really good friend of mine, and he's like, Hey, you want to go to Kings Island? I'm like, Well, hell yeah, I want to go to King's Island, right? And it's like, well, we're going with my you know, it's a church group thing. I'm like, okay, cool. So I mean we get in this, get in this bus, this little church bus with the you know, all the other, you know, 10 to 15 year olds or whatever it may be, and we're all heading to King's Island and we start.
SPEAKER_01Which is like an amusement park.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, amusement park. And we we stop in the parking lot, and you know, the youth pastor, or and I don't even know if it was pastor. I don't, I don't know. There's so many different terms for different religions and things. But anyway, this he asked, you know, like, hey, before we go, I want to share this with you. If you're not saved and you were happened to die on a roller coaster today, you're gonna go to hell. And I'm like sitting there thinking, what in the world is for I'm like, what is saved mean? Number one, I have no idea what that is. You know, I'm 10. And then he was like, Now, if you're not saved, raise your hand. And I'm sitting there thinking, I don't, I'm not raising my hand right now. And yeah, so anyway, long story short, like, you know, a couple people did raise their hand, and I was like, My hand's still down because I ain't putting it up. Just not that wasn't my thing. But then it was like, you know, he made the, you know, he made everybody say this this prayer and he was like, Okay, you're saved. Now if you do die, you're you're safe. And I'm just like, holy crap. So then I'm getting out of the car, like, oh shit. I hope the maintenance man on the roller coaster did the job today because I'm in trouble if we don't do this.
SPEAKER_01So, but yeah, so that like But you grew up kind of like that's what that was your experience, and that's how like you grew up. That's what I mean. Like it was awkward.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thinking like that's what church was. My parents took me to a Catholic church, and that was just like, I mean, you just like if you don't it I mean, that's a thing. You gotta like know all the yeah, stand-ups, the sit-downs, the chance like, and it's like when you're not, you're just like awkward. Yeah, you know, so it was like because my my grandparents are Catholic, and that's and that's kind of like my first experiences with that. So it wasn't until I met like until I met you. I had never really been to a church where I ever like felt like comfortable, and that was the first time then when we started dating, I started going with you every Sunday, and next thing you know, it's like yeah, we're 20 years in and pretty consistent now.
SPEAKER_01So now I'm looking back, baby.
SPEAKER_00Not looking back, yeah.
SPEAKER_01All right, well, I think that's a good place to end.
SPEAKER_00Was that five?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that was five.
SPEAKER_00Heck yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so top five habits that changed our life. Okay, so we'll uh tune in next week because I can't wait to give you our list of top five things for whatever. Who knows what we're gonna talk about? It could get really entertaining. I feel like we could go on and on and on about whatever.
SPEAKER_00Oh, entertaining people.
SPEAKER_01Well, this is true. All right, well, see you next time. Bye.