NextGen on Elevate Springfield with Ellie Ferriell: 90s Trends Comeback

Summary

In this episode, Ellie and Robert discuss the the cyclical nature of trends, and how nostalgia plays a role in current fashion and culture. They explore various trends from the 90s that have resurfaced, the impact of aesthetics on youth culture, and the resurgence of physical media in a digital age. The conversation also touches on the influence of boy bands, the evolution of fashion styles, and the importance of individuality amidst trends.

Takeaways

• Nostalgia plays a significant role in current trends.
• Fashion trends often recycle from previous decades.
• Aesthetics influence youth culture and identity.
• Physical media is making a comeback in music and movies.
• Digital cameras are popular among teens for their unique quality.
• Baggy jeans are trending again, contrasting with skinny jeans.
• Boy bands have evolved, with K-pop dominating the scene.
• Overconsumption is a prevalent issue in today's trends.
• Individuality is essential; trends should not dictate personal style.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_07 0:00

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SPEAKER_01 0:35

Hey everyone, welcome to the next gen on Elevate Springfield. I'm Ellie and I'm here with my dad Robert.

SPEAKER_07 0:40

Together, we're talking about what really matters to teens today. From school and skills to pressure, purpose, and possibilities. We'll share honest conversations, practical strategies teens can actually use, and a little dad-daughter debate.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

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SPEAKER_02 1:47

Hello and welcome back to another episode of NextGen on Elevate Springfield. I'm Ellie and I'm here with my dad.

SPEAKER_07 1:52

Hi, Ellie.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

You know, I've kind of been thinking the intro, whenever you told me like what the script kind of was for the intro, like do with do with it what I will. The end part has always felt kind of incomplete. And I'm here with my dad. It always just it feels like I need to say something else after that, you know?

SPEAKER_07 2:11

Well, what do you want to say?

SPEAKER_02 2:12

I have no clue, but it has always felt incomplete. So comment down below if you also feel like I was about to say something else and I just didn't.

SPEAKER_07 2:20

We could revamp that a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Because I feel like I have to pitch my voice a certain way for it to feel like the end of a sentence. And even then it still feels like I need to say something else afterwards.

SPEAKER_07 2:28

What do you need to feel that? Do you need to go down with your tone when you say that? You can say, I'm here with my dad.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 2:38

No, that doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

I don't know. Maybe that's just me, but I feel like in my brain, my brain thinks I'm about to go into and I'm here with my dad, where we talk about this, this, and this. You know? Well, you certainly could. Even though I don't want to say that though.

SPEAKER_07 2:52

You certainly could add that little little ditty toward the end there. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

So I can intro it being like, we talk about this, this, and this. Yeah. Specifically that? Or would I have to swap out the this, this, and this?

SPEAKER_07 3:03

This, this, and this. Yeah. This, this, and this doesn't really give the audience much context in what we're gonna talk about, but well, I mean, they're gonna listen.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Oh no, I don't think the listeners care very much. They just want to get us to get into the topic.

SPEAKER_07 3:16

Probably, yeah. Well, today's Mother's Day. As we record this, it's dropping on Tuesday, but we're recording on on Mother's Day, so happy Mother's Day to all the all the moms out there.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Well, since you came up with the topic, what are we talking about today?

SPEAKER_07 3:32

Yeah, I did come up with the topic because you failed to do so.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 3:37

So yes, I did come up with the topic because I've seen a lot in you and in other teenagers. A lot of the stuff from the nineties when I was a teenager has made its way back to popularity, I guess. So I thought we could talk a little bit about that and how some of that stuff has come back into quote unquote fashion, and you can talk about what you like about it and maybe how I think it's maybe we can touch on trends too.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

That'd be a good segue into talking about how trends work. Do trends ever truly go away, or do we just recycle the same ones over and over and over again?

SPEAKER_07 4:17

Well, what are some of the trends that not even the nineties trends that we're gonna talk about, but over the course of your lifetime, what are some trends that you've seen?

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Well, anytime I think of trends, I think of fashion trends and I think of trends that are popular among the youth. The youthens and like the preteens and the the youngins.

SPEAKER_06 4:41

You sounded kind of you sound like an old lady on that one.

SPEAKER_05 4:46

You're like, I know. Well, what's what's popular with the youth of today? Kids. Wow. Yes.

SPEAKER_07 4:55

Um you'd take a little sip of my tea after that one, which it is really good tea. Shout out to the primitive prairie Kylie Melvin, friend of the show. Good tea.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Yes, for real. Which makes sense that we think about the younger kids and the preteens and the teens with trends because they are a big part of why trends become so popular. But yeah, the first things that would come to mind is scrunchies, animal print, any type of animal print, leopard print, cheetah print.

SPEAKER_07 5:23

Scrunchies were popular when I was a teen too.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Yeah, those came back when I was younger. Which is also why I wanted to ask, how recently are we talking? Because I know that if I were to look this up being like 80s to 90s trends that are popular now, it'd come up with scrunchies, but nobody's wearing scrunchies in 2026 anymore. So I guess I'm wondering about what years are we saying is recent.

SPEAKER_07 5:45

But well, just in your life, what are some trends you remember seeing? Doesn't necessarily have to be a trend that came back or anything, just yeah, what are some trends you've seen out there?

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Also, the Visco girls, I don't know if you know what that is. You probably don't know what that is. I really honestly don't know what that is either. But when I when I was in school, I was probably like nine or ten. And I remember my teacher asking me, because all the other girls, or not all of them, but there is one group of girls, and she had asked me, she was like, Are you a Visco girl too? And I was like, What's that? I guess it's just it's a certain aesthetic for one. I think it's just glitter, sparkles. They they would also do this thing where they'd go, s I don't know, but it's a certain aesthetic, I guess. And you just all I think of is is glitter, the word Visco, which is V-S-C-O.

SPEAKER_07 6:37

Okay. And I feel like I need to look back, yeah, I used to feel like I need to look back.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

I was a little late to the trend, but I was around when it happened. So I mean I but then I didn't know what it was either. But that is what I think about when I think of trends as well.

SPEAKER_07 6:51

Okay. So it's uh Visco Girls, Boo Girls are a Gen Z subculture and aesthetic that emerged in the mid to late in mid to late 2019. Yes, characterized by a casual, beachy style and a focus on eco-friendly, brand specific products. So items like scrunchies, hydro flasks, oversized teas, accompanied by phrases and I oop and I oop.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

And I oop.

SPEAKER_07 7:22

Oh, is that what that is?

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Yeah, because it's it's supposed to be like oh I started a sentence.

SPEAKER_07 7:27

Crocs, Birkenstocks.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Crocs, Crocs, and Birkenstocks.

SPEAKER_07 7:31

Dewy skin. Yeah. Metal straws. Ooh, and instant cameras. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 7:37

I get it.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Yeah, so it's a certain aesthetic, I guess. Crap.

SPEAKER_07 7:42

It's described as a modernized, beach focused valley girl. Okay. I get it, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

The trends nowadays I feel like heavily rely on overconsumption and purchasing and spending and over consuming. Which is true. All the trends that have become very big within the last two years, like I can name so many off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_07 8:07

What's a laboo boo?

SPEAKER_02 8:08

It's those little like monster-looking keychain things. I guess that's the only way I can explain it.

SPEAKER_07 8:14

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Um, but yeah, obviously there are also aesthetics that are popular nowadays. Like the girly aesthetic is really popular, and so are so many others. I know old money has been pretty popular. I mean, I feel like that's a few years ago, though.

SPEAKER_07 8:30

What was the trend there? Old money.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

I mean, that's the that's the thing. I don't really think these are per se trends. I mean, they they are, but I guess it's not one thing. It's kind of like there have been at least 10 different aesthetics that have been popular these past few years, and they've stuck around, and there isn't really many outside of that that so many people categorize themselves as. I still don't really think that's a trend like the Visco Girls was, because it wasn't like, oh, I'm a this and I and this, this, and this.

SPEAKER_07 9:02

Like the girly aesthetic is kind of just so it's it's not necessarily trends, but it's more an aesthetic of of your persona, a little bit of what Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

And I mean, what's currently popular that has been like that's been irking me out is the bows. Just that's the extent of it, pink bows, just cute little pink bows, that's it. And I'm very girly, and I love the pink bows if it's done tastefully. However, this is why we can't have nice things because they take anything that becomes popular and slaps it on everything. So now most of the time, when I see the pink bows, it's super cheap, it's super hodgepodgy looking, for lack of a better word. It's just I don't like it because it's very poorly done, it's just ugly. But I definitely think in about 10 years, maybe 20 years, I don't know, that we will be getting new aesthetics that aren't the same as today. But I I feel like the aesthetics that have been a thing these past few years aren't really a trend. I feel like the only trends that I see are the overconsumption trends that are bye, buy, buy, let me get a hundred of one thing and then open them and be mad when I get the same one. Because it's a blind box. I didn't say that, but because it's a blind box.

SPEAKER_07 10:16

Well, I think pretty much everything goes back around at some point. So some of the stuff that's going back around right now that I'm seeing that was popular when I was a teen in the 90s. Physical media.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Yes. Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 10:30

Physical media. So you've started to buy physical media. I mean, I still buy physical books. I'll listen to audiobooks, but I'll still buy physical books. But I'm talking more on the the music side of things primarily. So and and sometimes even movies. People are getting more physical media with music and movies when the last 20 years, physical media in music and movies has almost gone away.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Yeah. So we have Spotify, we have Disney Plus, we have all the streaming services, and I had a big K pop phase, which is Korean pop, in when I was 10 to 13. And that is very physical media focused because of the album. So I mean, I've been buying physical media for years. Um, but I've 100% gotten more into physical media that's not music related because I've kind of always bought physical media for music because of my K-pop phase when I was growing into my music taste. So I've always done that.

SPEAKER_07 11:31

I saw some pictures come across of our last concert just the other day, too.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Really?

SPEAKER_07 11:36

Must have been here. It must have been in April or May of Really?

SPEAKER_02 11:40

What concert was it?

SPEAKER_07 11:40

It was the last in hyphen when we was.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

No, it wasn't. Those were always in like October.

SPEAKER_07 11:45

Yeah. That's where one just came across.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

Maybe.

SPEAKER_07 11:48

I think we did one in April or May. It was out of the out of the three that we did, I think there was one that was at a different time of year.

unknown 11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 11:57

My Facebook stuff was just messed up and it maybe it's or maybe Google Photos or something just threw those pictures at me for no reason. They might have popped up as a memory on one of the twos.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

But I've also really been wanting to collect my favorite movies in DVD form because again, I've always had DVDs. However, I have this fear that if I don't have all my favorite things in physical media that I can keep for myself, it'll disappear off the face of the earth, or I'll have to pay like$30 for it. And then even then it'll disappear after I paid the$30 for one thing. Um, I don't like the internet in that way. I just want all my things to be my things. I have them. That's some sort of mental thing. But also not really, because I've seen people changing clips like Disney. They changed one of the clips in Lilo and Stitch because it was unsafe for kids because it was promoting something that wasn't safe for kids, like getting in the washer, the dryer. So they changed it. And that's fine. I get it. It's just there's been a lot of that happening recently of little changes or oh, this is just gone. Don't know where it went. Yeah, it's just, it's just gone off the internet.

SPEAKER_07 13:02

Make sure you have the OT.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Yeah, so I just want, I just want my stuff. I just I want my stuff. Same thing for photos, because I'm also like a I hate the government conspiracy theorist type thing. So that also heavily contributes to this. So I want all my photos printed out in photo books, number one, because it's fun. And number two, because I feel safer when I have things not on the internet. Because I feel like the internet can just take it away whenever it wants to, and I just I want my things. But yeah, I've definitely been loving physical media. Yeah, it's funny.

SPEAKER_07 13:34

In the 90s, we had big books of CDs, you know, is what we had. So all of our music was in gigantic binder with flip pages and how you put the CD and everything in there, and that's what you had at your house and in your car. She had tons of physical media, and I was happy to get rid of it once once the streaming came around. But now it's flipped back the other way.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yeah, it definitely has. That's definitely a good one. Sorry I went on like a huge rant about my personal thing with like physical media, but yes, it's definitely become more popular, and I think it's just fun.

SPEAKER_07 14:07

Another thing to that's part of podcast is personal rants.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

Yeah, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_07 14:10

That makes me feel like that's part of the deal.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

But we had grandma over recently because for Mother's Day, and she was like, Oh, you use an actual camera, like an actual digital camera. And that reminded me too. That's another thing that's come around is digital cameras. Everybody has been wanting and loving digital cameras. It's very popular amongst the teens. It just is. But it's amazing. I love my digital cameras so much. I got one and then I had enough money to get myself uh what?

SPEAKER_07 14:36

Sorry, it's just funny when you say with the teens.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

I am a teens. Yes, you are I am a teens.

SPEAKER_07 14:42

You are, you are, but the it sounded like it was coming from somebody much older right there. With my fellow with the teens.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

With with my fellow teens. With my fellows.

SPEAKER_07 14:54

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

I think that's a clip from Boy Meets World, maybe, isn't it? Or is it from another show? There's this old guy and he's got a skateboard and a hat on. He's like, What's up, my fellow kids?

SPEAKER_07 15:05

Don't know that one. Yeah. That's what it reminds me of. You probably recognize it.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

You should clip this and then I'll give it the meme and you can just put it there. But yeah, those have become super popular and they're great, and I think it's so fun. Everybody loves it. I guess I guess that's it.

SPEAKER_07 15:20

And it gives a little bit different feel on the picture too. I think that's why you guys really like them, is because the the quality of the picture's different than your cell phone. It has a different look, it has a different vibe to it with some of these digital cameras that you guys are using.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

Yeah, and it's definitely much better than a phone, 100%. The clearness of it is great and the type of filter it puts over it, just the camera in and of itself, how the camera takes pictures, is just really flattering and really pretty. It's just great. And it's just fun to have like a camera that's not your phone.

SPEAKER_07 15:56

It's not it's been interesting for me because I've been your photographer, a lot of photo shoots with that thing. So it was bringing me back.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Yeah, most of my photos are taken by you.

SPEAKER_07 16:05

Yeah, they really are. Yeah. No doubt about it. So another one I've seen are the are the baggy jeans still in?

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Oh yes. Oh yes. It just but it depends though. It depends what kind of baggy jean we're talking.

SPEAKER_07 16:18

Because when I was a teenager in the 90s, baggy jeans were a thing, but massive jeans. Yeah, like massive with three people in it, pair of jeans.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

And there's still people that wears like the huge ones, and that is still a trend of like the super low rise with guys where it's like half their underwear is showing. That's still a thing. I don't know if that was a thing, but it's a thing. And then with girls, it'll be more like low rise. Tasteful low rise and baggy. It depends what girl, but most the trend right now is low rise, baggy. Everybody hates high rise. Low rise is like the thing.

SPEAKER_07 16:57

Which high rise was the thing for a little bit there.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

But yes, it was in like 2016.

SPEAKER_07 17:02

Yes. Low rise in the 90s was a thing, but it wasn't called for guys, it wasn't called low rise. It was called sagging.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

I think it's still called that actually.

SPEAKER_07 17:13

Okay, I was gonna make sure. I was like, did they change the name to do do guys say low rise now?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

I mean, I think they I think they do. I think we call it sagging, and I think when it's actually sagging, like underwear up here, pants down here sagging, yes, it's called sagging.

SPEAKER_07 17:30

Oh, but the lower eyes could be just okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

If it's just a little low rise, low baggy, we call it lower eyes.

SPEAKER_07 17:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

As long as like not any more than your underwear band is showing, it's low rise, but if more, it's sagging, I guess.

SPEAKER_07 17:46

So it's probably gonna bounce back and forth, isn't it? So it went it went from baggy to skinny.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 17:53

Back to baggy. Yeah, and then it'll go back to skinny, and then it'll go back to baggy.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Yeah, we've we've jumped. And I mean, our version of skinny jeans right now is flare or wide leg, I guess, because you guys think the wide leg is wide all the way down. It's really not. Wide leg, really, most of the time it's the same width of your thigh and then down. And maybe on your thigh it's bigger, it's touch bigger, but it's not like this much material outside of your leg, you know? But yeah, that we that definitely was a thing where it was baggy in your era, and then in 2016 it was high rise skinny, and now it's low rise baggy. People hate skinny jeans and hate high rise. I personally do just because I don't think it looks good on me, but I'm not a hater of those styles. I'm a hater of those styles for myself because that's what I used to wear. So I'd know, but I digress.

SPEAKER_07 18:44

All right. So 90s trends, some of the fashion trends. Yeah, grunge was big. So flannel shirts, ripped jeans, Doc Martin's, band t-shirts, any of that stuff coming back?

SPEAKER_02 18:58

See, I guess this is what I mean about the different aesthetics, is that these things are definitely still around. They're just not a nationwide trend, or it's not in all America is doing this trend. I think people have really started to individualize themselves more in that, yeah, that thing's still around, just not in a trend capacity to where everybody's hopping on board and it's a thing. It's just people wear what they want to wear.

SPEAKER_07 19:29

One thing that was really big in the 90s was wallet chains.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Wait, so what exactly is that?

SPEAKER_07 19:35

So it's a chain that's connected to your wallet and it goes onto your belt too, and it's this chain that kind of goes down your leg.

unknown 19:42

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_07 19:43

So you pull it out and your wallets on a chain.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

It was a just connected to your belt?

SPEAKER_07 19:47

Yeah. Like this. Kind of like that.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

Huh. Was that to prevent stealing?

SPEAKER_07 19:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

It was a it was don't just steal my wallet, kidnap me too.

SPEAKER_07 19:58

It was a fashion trend, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

I don't know. I don't hate that. It just seems like another chain. I mean, chains are still a thing.

SPEAKER_07 20:06

It is. Let's see. Ooh, slap bracelets. Remember them?

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 20:10

Yeah. Yeah. Flip shades. I don't remember those very much. Beanie babies, of course, were a trend.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

And see, I guess over consumption trends were a thing back in your day because of beanie babies. Because those things, people would collect a million of those. But then again, I watched the best commentary video on collection versus overconsumption, and it differentiated them perfectly. I I do still think that the Beanie Babies was more of a collection. Sure, there was overconsumption in there, but I definitely think most people who were buying them were collectors, or oh, I'll buy one or two versus now, where it's like I need to buy a million of these, even if it's not a blind bag.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

I need to, I just I just need to. I need to have them so I can make my unboxing videos to promote these to the eight-year-olds.

SPEAKER_07 21:03

Well, and one big difference with the beanie babies too is people legitimately thought that they were an investment, like they were gonna be worth a ton of money, is what people thought. Yeah. So people went to collect them because they legitimately just thought that they were gonna be worth a ton of money someday. And now they're really not.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

That's really sad though. That's actually really sad. Yeah, the pee and thing is, what's really annoying about like I could have make an entire podcast at over consumption. Low-key, we should do that. Over consumption versus collection next week.

SPEAKER_07 21:39

Next week. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Because I never think that the things I think about are like podcast worthy topics, but that I think that one is. For instance, Nito's. Nido's is literally just a sensory toy. It is a cube that's squishy. That's it. And they have the different ones, like the it one that looks like a drop, it's just squishy. It's a squishy. That's what it is. It's a sensory toy. I have three. And a few years ago, Nitos were like, oh yeah, everybody loves those. But it wasn't a yeah, everybody loves those. Yeah. Everybody has one. We all like them. They're universally accepted. We all love them. And then those people caught wind of them and they've been buying them and selling out like crazy. I haven't seen one because it's become an overconsumption trend to just buy as many as possible. And it's, oh yeah, Nidos. I love Nidos, even though it's just like you only like it because it's a trend. And it's just annoying because it never was like that. It was just, yeah, that's that's a great toy. Most people like those. So you look at my squishy. And now it's just like, where are they? I can't find any of them. Oh, nidos, what wait, what, wait, what'd you say, nidos? Like it almost like it's just so annoying. It's like, why do we need to make it that big of a deal? Like, yes, nidos are great, but you don't need to have 10 nidos for yourself. I promise you, you don't. They don't even have that many different kinds.

SPEAKER_07 23:04

True.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

It's just annoying. And it was very annoying to see that shift too. So I was like, wait, nidos are the new trend? I loved those. And not saying that I don't love them because they're a trend. I just don't love the trend aspect of it because it's they're all gone. It's dumb purchasing. And it's just like, oh well, I only like it because it's a trend. I just I'm not saying you needed to like it before it became popular, obviously. I'm not a snob, but it just it doesn't seem genuine when you're buying so many of them and then just setting them up and be like, oh well, I have this one, this one, this one, this one, this one. That one really bothered.

SPEAKER_07 23:37

What about boy bands? Are boy bands back yet? 90s boy bands were huge.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Well, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 23:43

Are there any big boy bands anymore? And in the 90s, we had LinSync and Backstreet Boys and all these all these big boy bands. Definitely 98 degrees.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

I feel like not right now, boys to me. But back. Like not so far back, but we had a lull where there was none, I guess. But I'm talking about the BTS One Direction era. And BTS are still around. Yeah. But that era, I'd say yes. And that was like what decade ago? Like 2016? I'd say that was big.

SPEAKER_07 24:15

So do you think so?

SPEAKER_02 24:16

I'd say yes, but not not currently, not 2026, because we really don't have any. I mean, BTS are still together.

SPEAKER_07 24:22

You still have you still have some K-pop boy bands. I think that's probably the transition. There's probably there's not really quote unquote American boy bands like Backstreet Boys and InSync and all them. Now it's more K-pop has taken over that genre.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

The boy bands are definitely within K-pop. They're like nowhere else. There's no boy bands from anywhere else, at least pop boy bands, if we want to call it that.

SPEAKER_07 24:48

And hyping was good when we saw them three times.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

But then again, I also feel like K-pop has been on the decline as well lately. Like really bad. Because I left and I I lost interest. I still think some of the music's good, but I lost interest. And then I get updates randomly and I'm like, what is going on? Like, what is happening? Like they've been on the decline pretty bad. I feel like no group has been big whoa. BTS just came back from the military and they, I guess it was a big thing. I mean, I still didn't see like that much hype around it though. I felt like most of the hype was coming from the promotion rather than the oh my gosh, they're back sort of thing. Like from the fans and the audience. It was more from, hey, go watch the live. Hey, hey, did you hear that the live is on Netflix? Hey, did you know BTS are coming back? And it's just the promotional team. So I I just feel like it's on the decline there anyway.

SPEAKER_07 25:42

I guess I can't really tell because I only really I watched it. I just get it. I paid attention through you. So I really, since you don't pay attention very much anymore, I don't see much of it. I don't see much of it anymore.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

I just I even feel like that market is down too. So I feel like the peak was like 2016 when they were really strong and One Direction was really strong. But even then, I mean, who else? So yes, yes, I'd say yes. And maybe in a few years we'll see some like really big ones or some more in the Western market, too. Do you think trends ever disappear, or do we just loop them around?

SPEAKER_07 26:16

I mean some of them disappear, certainly. The big ones tend to make a comeback. Um, but there are some that disappear completely. Try to think of something from my childhood that never really came back. Well, maybe one with sports cards, like baseball cards.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

But however, I know but it came back in a different market.

SPEAKER_07 26:40

Came in a different market, but those specifically baseball cards when I was a kid. Sports cards. Yeah. Well, and a lot of sports cards, but primarily baseball cards. Football cards and basketball cards were never as big when I was a kid. I had some of them, but I they weren't the national craze. But baseball cards were absolutely huge. And once they went into decline, I don't know that they've ever come back, but some things have come back in different forms that fill that same niche, but it's just not baseball cards.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Yeah, and I feel like I can kind of see those coming back though.

SPEAKER_07 27:16

Potentially.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Because baseball is still super popular, especially around the among young kids and young boys. So I feel like they could, especially with Cardinals. I mean, the young boys, they know the cardinals, players, names. I feel like they'd collect the cards just fine. I feel like that'd be a thing to come back. I I can see it.

SPEAKER_07 27:35

It could.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

I can see it.

SPEAKER_07 27:36

Because it could be one of these physical media things that comes back, people want to have them because that's another thing. I had my baseball cards just like I had my CDs in a binder. I had all my baseball cards in these plastic sleeves and in the binders, so everything stayed nice because again, like the Beanie babies, we all thought that, hey, if you had this cool baseball card collection, it's gonna be worth a lot of money someday. It's gonna be worth good money someday. And unfortunately weren't it didn't happen. Had a few cards that might have been worth a little something, but not what anybody thought they would be.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

However, if baseball cards do come back, I really can't see it coming back in the same capacity. I feel like it could come back in the sense that maybe they hand them out in games to the kids there. Or maybe you can buy a couple or something like that. But I really don't think it'll come back as whoa, like that thing, and you really, really savor them. I feel like some kids will, but most of them will just be like, oh, look at my baseball card, like wave it around. Like, I don't think it'll be back in the same capacity as it was. Like, ooh, I need to protect it, I need to have the sleep, and then I need to put it in the binder.

SPEAKER_07 28:48

What happened to it is a lot of the companies started overproducing when it got when they got so popular and people were buying them, they made so many baseball cards that none of them were really rare anymore. There's just so many of them out there. If there's a million of this guy's rookie cards out there, it's no longer rare, so it's no longer really valuable. Yeah. So that hurt the industry, I guess, a little bit. But no.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

And I still feel like that's how it'd be. I feel like they just give out a ton.

SPEAKER_07 29:18

Yeah, there'd be so many that it's not it'd be fun for the kids to get them, but you know, yeah, I feel like that'd be the extent of it.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

It wouldn't be an actual collection or something that you really cherish or something that the kids will really have. It'll just be look, baseball card, cool, right? Oh, it's this player, but I wanted that one. It just wouldn't be a big cool thing. It'd just be like, oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_07 29:43

But you see it when we go to like if we go to an antique shop, like if we go to the pink elephant or something. Um, I'll joke with you. It's a running joke every time when we go into that one, hey, you want to buy get some of these gum out of this old baseball card pack? Those were like the 1988 tops or something. And so in the late 80s and 90s, they just started mass producing a ton of those things and they were just all over the place.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah. Wait, that's another good one. Like toys in food. Do we think that'll come back? Because the cereal boxes had the toys hidden in it, and the gum packets had the baseball cards in it. Do you think that's something that will come back? Something collectible? There was one. Adeline had her fruit roll-ups and it had the card in it with a little animal on it.

SPEAKER_07 30:24

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

But as a trend in and of itself, do you think it'd come back in a bigger capacity than that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 30:33

That's an interesting one.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Because that one was pretty big. I mean, all of my Disney Channel shows from the 2000s, they'd be digging in their cereal boxes being like, you already took the toy out.

SPEAKER_07 30:43

It's like toys out of the cereal boxes and everything. I don't know. Maybe. I wouldn't want them. I don't want a bunch of plastic all up in my food. Maybe we've gotten past that point.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

I honestly don't feel like that would be a thing to come back. I feel like that's just gonna stay in the past. I don't think it's gonna be a thing much anymore. And even then, I don't think the kids would care as much.

SPEAKER_07 31:08

And I and if they did it, I don't know that they would put it in the food.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 31:13

Like attach it to the box or something like that. Right. That's what I'm thinking. You get a free little stuffy with your box.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Now you have a stuffy, it'd be like a tiny McDonald's toy.

SPEAKER_07 31:21

Yeah, like a little McDonald's toy.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

Plastic toy.

SPEAKER_07 31:23

McDonald's, that's an interesting one. Yeah, but we never stopped, really. Yeah, no, but they didn't. But one thing that did was the playgrounds. All the when I was a kid, even when I was your age, all the McDonald's still had playgrounds out there where you could. There's still R.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

R still has a playground.

SPEAKER_07 31:41

Well, they were they were different though. They weren't like the tube ones like you see now. They were merry-go-rounds and slides and and like a cheeseburger-shaped dome thing that you climb up into. It just it was much different. I'll show you some pictures from from back in the day. And they're those little uh you'll see them at some parks sometimes where you get on them and you just kind of rock back and forth. The little rocking horse deals. Yeah, yeah. But they were the McDonald's characters and you can you could ride them outside and stuff. I'll show you some pictures. I don't see those making a comeback because they quite frankly were probably kind of dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

The horse?

SPEAKER_07 32:16

Well, no, some of the things that you would climb uh climb around in, maybe people's sensibilities are a little bit different now.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Yeah. Again, I don't think those actually went away. I mean, they they switched it up, they changed the actual design of it, but the playground's still there. It's just changing with time itself.

SPEAKER_07 32:32

So yeah, because it was an actual outside playground. More park-like stuff than what you'd have in the indoor climate.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

This is making me really want to go back to my childhood park. You know the one I'm talking about, right? It had the like the pelican thing. Yes. What was the other one? Was it a horse?

SPEAKER_07 32:48

Possibly, I can't remember. It's probably still it's probably still there.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

That actually sounds so fun. I love the pelican.

SPEAKER_07 32:57

We're certainly not going back to McDonald's. That ain't happening.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

Don't even get me started about McDonald's, bro.

SPEAKER_07 33:04

Yeah. No. Never eating there again in my life. Not happening. So, what do you want to do the rest of the day, Ellie?

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Um, make sure mom has a good mother's day.

SPEAKER_07 33:13

Yeah, a good day.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

When we get home, uh you need to help her with her new Roomba.

SPEAKER_07 33:19

I think I need to dig some holes for plants too, don't I?

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Uh yes.

SPEAKER_07 33:25

I guess we could do that. You will. Maybe. Hey, look at that. You made it through a whole episode without saying you're hungry. Gotta love that.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

Well, that's because I just had lunch before we got here.

SPEAKER_07 33:37

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Well, trends can heavily impact what you like, what you dislike, but we didn't really get into it, but don't just like what you like. Doesn't matter what's trending or not. Trends are just there. It's not that deep. Just you want to.

SPEAKER_07 33:53

Yeah, trends can be fun, but be you.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

There's that old uh don't let you get wrapped up. Don't let yourself get wrapped up into things just because it's a trend. Just have discernment towards them.

SPEAKER_07 34:04

Absolutely. Yeah, we didn't talk about it much, but be you, don't follow the trend just for a friend, just because it's a trend. That's their that's the old uh quote out there, hey, do not go where others may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. That's one of my favorite ones from Ralph Ralph Waldo Emerson. So it goes against the grain on the trends and makes you chart your own course.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

Yep, just do what you want.

SPEAKER_07 34:28

Just be 10x too. How about that?

SPEAKER_02 34:30

Yeah, for real. Do what you want. Be you. It doesn't matter what everybody else is doing. Also, don't go out of your way to be different just to be different. This this swings both ways. You know what I mean?

unknown 34:41

True.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Well, thank you for joining us on another episode of Next Gen on Elevate Springfield. We'll see you next time. See ya.

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