Long-Term GLP-1 Success: Beyond the Scale w/ Kimmi Le

What does long-term GLP-1 use actually look like in real life? 

In this episode, Ana sits down with clinical pharmacist Kimmi Le of Solara Labs/Barimelts to talk about the bigger picture of staying on GLP-1 medications over time. They unpack why weight loss alone is not the same thing as better health, what labs and biomarkers matter most, and how to think about muscle, nutrient status, digestion, inflammation, and long-term maintenance. Kimmi shares a practical perspective on microdosing, why some patients may do better staying on a lower long-term dose, and how to avoid the cycle of losing and regaining weight. They also talk about nutrient absorption, supplement quality, bariatric surgery considerations, and what may be coming next in the GLP-1 space.

 In this episode, you’ll learn: 

• Why “the scale going down” doesn’t always mean health is improving
• The role of exercise and muscle preservation on GLP-1s
• How slowed digestion can affect nutrient absorption
• What bariatric patients should keep in mind when using GLP-1 medications
• Why form and quality matter when choosing supplements
• How clinicians are thinking about long-term use, lower dosing, and maintenance

 About Kimmi Le: Kimmi Le is a clinical pharmacist with additional training in nutrition, herbalism, and culinary medicine through Tulane Medical School’s teaching kitchen. She works in the supplement space with Solara Labs/Barimelts, with a focus on practical support for women using GLP-1 medications and bariatric patients. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Need a bolus dose, meaning a higher dose in the beginning, but you taper them off to what I see a lot of doctors doing, helping them microdose so they keep those anti-inflammatory benefits, right? And they can still, they're probably going to consume more nutrients because it's not so much at that point about weight loss.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

If you've lost weight on a GLP1, but still don't feel healthier, stronger, or confident that you can maintain it, this episode is for you. I'm Anna Reisdorf, registered dietitian, GLP1 user. And today I'm joined by Kimmy Lee, a clinical pharmacist with training in nutrition and lifestyle support, and we're talking about what long-term success on GLP1s really looks like. In this episode, you're here why the scale is only part of the story, which labs and health markers matter more than most people realize, and why some people may benefit from a maintenance or microdosing approach instead of thinking in extremes. If this episode helps you, please leave a quick review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And if you're listening on YouTube, share your thoughts in the comments. And I want to say thank you to Berry Meltz for sponsoring this episode. Now let's get on with the show. On my GLP1 journey, I noticed something I didn't expect. I'm losing weight, but my hair was thinning, and I could feel my strength changing. I started wondering how could I support my hair and protect my muscles while my body is adapting? That's why I turned to Berry Melts. They've created products targeting the challenges that come with weight loss and GLP1 use. Hair Health Plus helps nourish your hair from the inside out, supporting growth and strength with two clinically studied ingredients that go beyond just hair vitamins. HMB muscle shield helps protect lean muscle while you're losing weight, supporting strength, metabolism, and long-term results so you can feel strong, not depleted. It's not just about how you look, it's about nourishing your body, protecting your strength, and feeling supported through every step of your transformation. If you want to try them for yourself, visit berrymeltz.com and use the code GLP1Hub to get 25% off your order. That's BarryMelts B-A-R-I-M-E-L-T-S dot com and use the code GLP1. Welcome to the GLP OneHub podcast. I want to welcome clinical pharmacist Kimmy Lee today from Solara Labs or Barry Melts. Um, we are gonna talk today about long-term strategies for GLP1 because a lot of us are, I think, thinking like, what does this mean for my life long term? So welcome, Kimmy. Can you tell the people a little bit about your professional background and what you do? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:51

Clinical pharmacist by training, but also, you know, went and studied at Tulane Medical School at their teaching kitchen. Also studied under a master herbalist for two years and then got additional nutrition licensing, all because of personal health journey, which I think we all have a story. So that's really what led me to get that additional training. And then, of course, um, suffering from fertility issues for five years. So this is very personal for me.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

Sure. So you were kind of like trying to find your own way and your fix your own fertility issues with all of the herbs and the nutrition and the pharmacy and all the things. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Yes. Yes. You know, school allopathically trained education only gets you so far and it doesn't give you the full picture and doesn't give you the lifestyle piece.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

So yeah, that's I think an important part. I wish we would all come together and try to look at the whole person a little bit more. Yes. So right now we're kind of in a position with this GLP one. They've been approved for weight loss for about like three years. I've been using one for three years. And like some of us are thinking, like, where are we going long term? Like, what does this look like? Some people have tried to get off the medication and not had success doing that. So, what are your thoughts right now about GLP ones and long-term weight maintenance? This is probably a really big question.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

It is such a big question, but it's a great question. I will first say that yes, even though it's been sort of FDA approved for weight loss, there have been physicians that have been using GLP1s for 20 years. 20 years. So the safety part of it, you know, it's it's been done, right? Research will come out, of course. I would say that it depends on the individual, what their goals are, you know, and how do you support your body while you're on the GLP ones? That is probably the most important thing, just because, and I say this to everyone that asks me about them, just because you see the scale going down, that does not mean your health is going up. That should make us sort of all pause for a second and be like, wow, like that is insightful, and that's very true. So that leads into if you do decide to stay on it long term, many benefits. I know patients that are microdosing to help reduce the food noise, but still get the same, get the effects of the anti-inflammatory benefits, right? And it doesn't suppress the appetite so much because we know that the suppression of the appetite is really what's causing this cascade effect of muscle loss, nutrient depletions, you know, gut microbiome changes. So once again, that's something to discuss with your doctor, but lots of great benefits. But I see most the reduction of food noise and the anti-inflammatory benefits is beautiful. You just need to put in the work to be able to support your body to be on this medication because this medication is a tool and it is only a tool in your toolbox of like all the things that you need to do to take care of your health and continue to, you know, kind of be at a healthy weight.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

So let's kind of unpack that statement that you made about just because the scale is getting lower doesn't mean you're getting healthier, right? Like we've all kind of been so focused for so many years on like obesity is an epidemic, like all these dramatic things, which have some truth to them, but you know. So how do you know if you're just getting thinner or if you're actually getting healthier? Because I'm trying to kind of tease this out in my own content too. I see people chasing like this lowest possible number and they're forgetting that like the lowest number is not the healthiest number because that BMI curve, there's disease over here and disease over here. Correct. So how do we know? Like, what are some signs maybe that we are actually using this in a way to improve our health long term?

SPEAKER_02 6:51

You know, I can't stress enough that, you know, baseline, always do a basic blood chemistry panel, right? You need to know what your fasting insulin is, you need to know what your glucose level is, you need to see how your liver is functioning. You know, NAFLD, so non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, is a real thing. We call these, in quotation, the skinny fat people, right? And I want to be honest, I was one of them, right? I was one of them. So I'm thin, everything seems great. When you start looking at the blood chemistry, it tells you a lot more. So at the minimum, get a good blood chemistry panel through your doctor, but there's many platforms where you can bypass your doctor. That is going to give you signs of like, okay, I'm losing weight, but I have my nutrients, I'm healthy, my metabolic pathways are working properly. That is the big thing. Is that and that's what GLPs, you know, are sort of known for, is it helps when you're overweight, it helps with that metabolic syndrome. But at some point it's like, is our body still operating functionally? Are our biochemical pathways still working the way that it should?

SPEAKER_00 8:03

So what are some of the, like, let's say you go to the doctor, and obviously it's gonna be a little tail like specific to what those labs say, but what are some of the habits in addition to the GLP one that you think are absolutely essential or lifestyle things, like whatever you want to say?

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Absolutely. Um, can't stress exercise enough. I think everyone on this call has heard that from every single person because muscle loss is a big deal. And it may not be a big deal in the beginning as you're losing weight and you're, you know, if you're younger, but your muscles, it's tells you, it gives you messaging on your longevity, how you're going to live. And I don't think any of us, when we're in our 60s, 70s, and 80s, want to not be able to pick up our grandchild, enjoy life, travel and things like that. So muscle, you know, is really important. So one lifestyle-wise, exercise. This doesn't mean that you need to join a fancy gym membership or anything like that. It is as simple as stretch bands, weight lifting, you don't have the weights, lift up cans of soup, you know, walk after you eat for 15 minutes. Like that's, you know, when I was in Italy, that's what people do. Like you go and you walk and you just enjoy and you have a conversation. Just move, right? Move your body. But if you can add that strength training in there, especially for women, especially, especially for women, there's so much research coming out about how important muscle health is for women, you have to be able to add that in. So, like, I will bring stretch bands with me to the airport on the plane, by the way. And I'm like doing my stretch bands while I'm on the plane, like a like a total weirdo, and I love it. But any way that you can do that, so calisthenics, even your own body weight. So no need for the gym, but kind of sweat it out a little bit. So that's number one for sure. Number two thing is addressing nutrient loss. Because the GLPs they slow down gastric emptying, food stays into your system longer, right? That's what promotes that feeling full and that satiety, the satiety. It changes the way that your body is going to absorb nutrients. So you may not be absorbing nutrients the way that your body was before this medication. So you may need to supplement, you may need to eat different foods. And I just recently saw this and I love this, but there was this professor that was like, because GLPs is much more a part of our culture, we are being very, and you're eating less, we are being kind of like food snobs. Because if you only have aptitude for one meal a day, you want the bang for your buck as nutrient dense and it's gotta taste good. And it's really like calling out these companies that's like producing cheap, fast, fake food, right? You don't want that. You're like, okay, I'm eating less. I better eat. One, it's gotta taste good, and two, it's gotta fill me up with like the nutrients that I'm probably not absorbing or losing because of this. So I think that's like a great way to think about it. Is like we should all become a little bit of food snob. Doesn't mean that we're spending more, we're just being kind of cognizant of like what we're putting inside our body. So I would say those two are really, really massive.

SPEAKER_00 11:20

And then where do micronutrients or supplements come into the picture here? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

So there are, you know, one of our products that we formulated, HMB, the Berry Melts HMB product, helps reduce some of that muscle loss, right? So on top of adding in your workout exercise, it lessens the breakdown, right? It lessens the breakdown and that loss of muscles, is one thing. The second thing is, as women, I will say it for myself, I'm constantly, even myself, I'm worried about hair loss. Like I know on right now, it's like, wow, you have a lot of hair kidney. I was like, oh no, I work at it. Like I take in my nutrients, you know, I because think about it. If you're not absorbing iron, calcium, B12, the fat-soluble vitamins, if you're eating, but you're not absorbing it, like it's your hair is the first, one of the first things to go, right? Exactly. It's optional, you know. So for vanity purposes, we have to add in those nutrients back in. So we do have like a beautiful hair product as well, too, that helps with that. But that's one area. Obviously, you know, skin health, there's a everything is tied to our microbiome, and that's where we digest and that's where we obtain our nutrients. So if we can optimize our microbiome, if we can put back in those nutrients, you're protecting yourself for long-term effects.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

What are some of the ingredients for in that HMB? If maybe people aren't familiar with it, like what are some of the ingredients in there that might protect the muscle?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

So the first one, and we have so many different formulas, so I actually have to pull it up. Sure. But the first one I know is the HMB itself. I mean, we have here um HMB is preventing muscle loss, lean muscle gain, and my favorite, skin tightness. So I think you I think you had mentioned that in some of your other podcasts that the skin elasticity declines also on this, right? So the HMB itself is actually helping to like strengthen that and support that elasticity.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

That's a big concern. I actually have a plastic surgeon coming on who does skin tightening surgery or surgery after weight loss because it's like such a big issue and such a big issue.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Boom. Yes. Yes. I've definitely seen more ads around plastic surgery in my feed. Yes, for for now for sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

So um I usually like to recommend like at least a multivitamin for GLP1 users. Yes. But are there any like other nutrients that a standard multi might not cover that you find interesting as a as a pharmacist and working in that space?

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Yes, probably one that I take is berberine. So we have a berberine product. I I think I started it even before this product during COVID, actually, just to support antioxidants, support my immune health. But we're seeing, especially with GLP1 users, insulin sensitivity, right? That's a big area. So berberine is especially really valuable to kind of help that uh pathway be much more efficient. And our phytosome technology with it, supplements or supplements, it's about absorption. What are you going to get from that supplement, right? If you're going to take the time to take it and spend the money on it. So, especially with any of your, you know, clients that have gastric bypass, right? Absorption is a big thing, right? And so being able to take nutrients, whether it's supplement form or not, you have to make it more accessible. So this phytosome technology allows that nutrient to be more accessible.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

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SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah. Um, so first I want to say whether you've had gastric bypass surgery or not, digestion. Digestion is so important, it's so critical. And as we age, our ability to produce stomach acid actually declines, right? And when stomach acid declines, that means that your food, you know, they're pretty much protein molecules, right? And they can't be broken up properly. So they stay in your system longer and you get the gas and bloating. So one optimizing your digestion is really important. So one that starts with obviously better food choices, but there's natural things that you can do to help with that. One is ginger, is a great, like that's why, like in Asian cultures and cultures around the world, they drink ginger tea, right? After a meal. So there's simple things that you can do to help with digestion. So that is one really big important piece. And then, you know, some people will take probiotics, some people will take prebiotics. But I think for patients that have gone through gastric bypass, one is the optimization in a gentle way for, you know, to kind of be able to absorb this. And then from there, if you're going to take supplements, you have to be very picky and choosy about what, like, you know, careful about what you're choosing to put in because it can overload the system too much, or you're not absorbing it enough. And so it has to be high quality. So the form of the nutrient is really important. So B12 is not just B12. You have to ask yourself, oh, did they use cyanocobalamin or did they use methylcobalamin? Methylcobalamin is more active, and that's the form that you want to take. Patients that have gone through the surgery, they really need to dig a few layers deeper and ask those questions, not just see, like, oh, this product has, you know, 500% of B12. That's great. I'm gonna take that. No, no, no. It's it's not about more, it's better. It's about is it the right form? Because form matters and it could be cheaper. Because cyanocobalamin, the example that I use, is cheaper than methylcobalamin. So you have to look at activated forms. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

Um, so how if you're just like a person, how do you learn all of that? Or do you recommend them seeing a dietitian or you know, yes, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

It is a lot, but thank goodness for individuals like you, Anna, right? Because you are separating fact from fiction. That's really what it comes down to. We do not have, you know, a lack of access to data anymore. Now it's seeing a practitioner like yourself, being able to educate, being like, listen, this is what this science is telling us. That's really important. Not listening to, I always make a joke of like take your supplement bottle, don't look at the name and don't look at the taglines and turn it and actually look at the label. What's on the back of the label is much more important.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

Absolutely. Like I really agree. And don't just buy it from some random person on YouTube just saying, Yeah, if they have a discount code, I have discount codes for things. But you know, like sometimes some of the claims out there very interesting. Yes. So, in terms of like as a pharmacist, maybe, do you have any concerns about someone staying on this medication long term, anything that might like build up or be something negative they might experience after a while, or it doesn't work? Like, these are the questions that I get that people are concerned. What does this mean in 20 years for me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Um, you know, I think of it as a scale. When I see someone that comes in that, you know, has metabolic syndrome and they are incredibly pro-inflammatory. Their biomarkers show that there's a lot of inflammation, their glucose is like very elevated and they're trending towards an even more dangerous sort of metabolic picture. When you think about that individual, you know, and I've seen this with other doctors, they keep them on GLP for a long time because the risk, you know, it's not worth it to have metabolic syndrome, right? So there's a lot more benefit. So then that person, right, is a perfect candidate to combine lifestyle changes with the muscle loss, with the nutrient loss and staying on this medication. And should they be, and I mentioned earlier, they may not need a bolus dose, meaning a higher dose in the beginning, but you taper them off to what I see a lot of doctors doing, helping them microdose. So they keep those anti-inflammatory benefits, right? And they can still, they're probably going to consume more nutrients because it's not so much at that point about weight loss, right? Like a number is a number, but at that point, you're taking it for all the other health benefits from brain health, cardiac health, and so forth. So that's the thing that it's really important to have the conversation with your doctors that like we have different phases in this journey, in this weight loss journey. Weight loss may be phase one, but then phase two is let's optimize your biochemical pathways and let's see if GLP1 still makes sense in that journey. That's how I see it.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Yeah, absolutely. But, you know, a lot of people on the GLP one, this is not their first rodeo, right? They have lost some of them hundreds of pounds before. I have somebody that came on the podcast that lost 200 pounds three times. So, and this is his third time. Thinking of somebody like that, you know, what are some strategies that maybe they could put in place that would make it a little easier? Because the up and down, up and down, up and down, you and I know is very damaging metabolically. That is like it almost be better for you to stay just stay on it. Or yes. So, what are some lifestyle strategies or other things somebody might want to consider if they're kind of just over this yo-yo roller coaster of their weight that's been happening for so long?

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Yeah. Um, you know, with with patients like this that I've seen in weight loss clinics, it's it's like behavioral. I know people don't want to hear that, right? But that behavioral change is really, really important. And I see it where it's like, oh, like, I don't need this. I can do this on my own. Now that I've lost all this weight, I'm gonna get off of it because I don't want to be on a medication for a long period of time, right? Because I don't know what the longitudinal studies are going to show. And I'm I'm very concerned. You know, I think that how we may, you know, if I was that the provider, how I probably would have failed this individual is explaining and, you know, kind of having a coaching, like a coach for this individual of like, okay, I understand your concern. Let's weigh this out and why maybe for you, you need to stay on it. And now there's proof that this individual got off of it and they started back on it. There's no more guessing that needs to happen. There's no more, like, let's stop tinkering with your health. Like, I think really, really smart people love to tinker with their health, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that. I sometimes do it to myself, but at some point I'm like, you know what? This is working. There's tons of benefits. As long as I'm being monitored and as long as I'm making sure that I'm covering all my bases for all the other things, not just weight loss, like stay on it.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

You know, but it it's very much a behavioral thing. Right, right. And a mindset, I think, kind of I personally got off the medication twice and gained the weight back, not fully the second time because I saw the writing on the wall. Yeah. But I just had it was kind of a hard road to accept that maybe this was gonna be part of my life. That's a very hard thing. Yeah, because it's cost, right? There's a lot to, you know, now it's getting slightly better, but before it was I got off because it jumped to 1500 all. I know, overnight. Yes. So I know I can't, my husband will kill me. He'll be like, get a chef or somebody, like it costs less than that. So, but like in terms of the long-term data on this, like you said, it's been around for 20 years. So for people who've been on it long term, like as pharmacy, you have no concerns.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

I have no concerns, and this is based off of research today, right? Um, and I know that's what scares people because it's like, well, you're you're telling me that of research today. But when I see physicians who were the first when I've spoken to physicians who were the first physicians to do this in their practice, and they've been, you know, they've been doing this for 20 plus years, right? And they have seen success with their patient, that brings me a lot of comfort as we wait for additional data to come out. That brings me a lot of comfort of like, okay, this is this is really great news, right? You know, um, for our field. But they made it very clear for all the all these doctors that I spoke to is that it was a lower dose. It was being paying attention to their, you know, blood chemistry. And every single person was putting in the work, right? Everyone's different with like what that work looks like, but that at least they were putting in the work to understand those two big areas.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Right. Right. So I think that it's just a combination. And this, I think the frustrating thing for people is they've been doing it for so long and they just want this weight thing to be done. I mean, I maybe I'm talking for myself.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

No, I don't think you're talking like to yourself because I hear it over and over. And unfortunately, unfortunately, like that sometimes it's just for the rest of your life, right? Like, I mean, there's research like coming out showing that it's even tied to genetics, right? So it's not you, it's not a you problem. It's just something that we live with, that we accept, we have peace around, and then we do what we need to do. I mean, it's, you know, I'm on thyroid medication. And like coming, even though I'm a pharmacist, it's like, gosh, like, do I really need to be on thyroid medication for like the rest of my life? And then I've talked to different ends of the spectrum and just like with registered dietitians, by the way, right? Around GLPs, you have the cohort where they love it, right? But the ones that love it, they know how to work with it because they support their patients while they're on it. And then you have the other cohort that's like, it's ruined their business. Let's just be very honest. It's ruined their business. They don't have as many clients, you know, and they're like, you're cheating the system. But somewhere in the middle, it really needs to come together that, like, this is not the answer to everything, but this is going to, this has helped so many people get over the hump, right, of struggling and like the pain and the agony and like the constant like brain chatter around like, how do I lose weight? How do I lose, I don't want to eat this, I don't want to eat that. It's totally reduced that. And so now you, if we can just accept that, like, oh, I'm gonna be on this, but let me think about optimization now, right? Like, get out of this reactive system, right? Like, great, you've lost weight. How do we optimize you? Do we need to build a stronger foundation and then we can continue stacking other things, right? I'm gonna be the first to say this. Supplements may not be the answer in your chapter one of your weight loss journey. It may be in chapter two, three, four, and five, and so on. Maybe chapter one is let's get you mentally in the good place, let's strengthen your foundation, let's get your body ready to take this GLP, and then we go from there. So for me, I'm always much more of a conservative track. And also that this is not a one-time thing. This is like, I'm let's build this, let's grow this together so that it stays and it sticks and it lasts.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

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SPEAKER_02 30:00

I'm like, we'll save the peptide conversation for another day.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Yeah, it's what I'm just like, what why are we doing this? There's no like m miracle here or whatever. So there's a lot of things coming down the pipeline in the future with the GLP one space. Just two days ago, as we're recording this, Eli Lilly launched a new thing, a new oral. So what are what are your thoughts in the future? Like, what are you excited about? What are you thinking about for the future of the GLP one supplement nutrition health space?

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Yes, the orals will be very interesting. I think it's gonna the people that were iffy about taking an injection, right? Uh, they're concerned about that. And now that there's an oral form, that will be very, very interesting to see. I think you're gonna see more people want to try it and want to see what it does and want to experiment, right? I think we're already seeing people experiment with micro dosing, lower dosing, cycling. You see, cycling using them more strategically, rather being on this like high fix, you know, high dose. And I think more information is gonna come out from that. So I think that's going to be really interesting to see like, okay, what does it look like? You know, cycling. What does it look like, you know, um, at this microdose? I also think that if we don't continue to support people on their GLP one journey, um, and you see, as you mentioned, that yo-yo back and forth, that to me is probably a concern because that, as you mentioned, very correct, that can be much more inflammatory than just whether staying on it long term. That just causes a lot of confusion and a lot of stress on the body. So I think we will see more of that conversation. I think you're going to see a lot of different support supplements. I think you're going to see the food industry change in a big way. So, as a dietitian, I think that gets you very excited, right? I think the race to figure out nutrient-dense foods, better quality. So that I'm excited to see where that goes.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Yeah. I'm, I mean, I think that that's gonna be the cultural, like full industry shift. And I already see it. You know, and I've interviewed several people on this podcast that are like working towards like what do we define as a GLP one, nutrient dense food? How, what is the definitions and how do we support the people? And then that benefits everybody, even if you're not on a GLP one, if we're having more nutrient dense foods that are higher in fiber, I like to say fiber first before protein. Yeah. So yeah, I I think there's a lot that's changing.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Yeah. And, you know, I get excited about what's gonna come out. Obviously, for my role, I get excited about what's gonna come out in the supplement space. I think everyone's racing to figure this out, you know, to be fully transparent. I think we're targeting the important things right now around like the nutrient depletions and the muscle loss. But I think we're going to see, you know, I want to see more things around like the microbiome, right? Um, and what's going to happen, what's going to shift there. There's so many, there's so much research coming out about that, especially with like omics technology. We're learning so much about that. So I think we're gonna learn about that. I think we're going to learn about what I would like to see is definitely more of that stacking. People are so confused. Like, there's so much information coming at us of like, what do I take first? What do I do I take all 20 supplements? Do I take three or four? Like, what do I take? Right. Exactly. Don't do that. So I think understanding more of like, okay, what do you really need? And it's personalized, right? Like the supplement that you take if you're a gastric biopass, you know, patient versus not, is gonna look different with like different dosing. You know, if you're concerned about like cardiovascular health and you're on a GLP, that supplement stack is gonna look different than someone that's concerned or has a family history of Alzheimer's or something. So I think that level of detail is um is more important than like necessarily just what ingredient you're gonna take.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

Yeah, I think that's gonna be one of the benefits of AI because it can help like look at so many data points, right? That can be hard for an individual practitioner to miss because there's like a whole human and the AI can take like all this information and like give it, give it a like this might be important, this might be important, this might not. I mean, there's a lot of downsides too, but like that could be one benefit. So, where can people connect with you or or learn more about your work, Kimmy?

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Yeah, so you can go to our website, berrymelts uh.com. So B-A-U-R-I-M-E-L-T-S dot com. That's a great place to start. We have our social handle as well too. I'm one of the, you know, kind of clinical team members on there. There's many other so excited to connect with anyone, everyone. And I'm really excited about this conversation and the work that you're doing. I think it's so important to really kind of sift through all this information that's coming out and you're making sense of it, right? Like, let's keep it as simple as possible for people.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Yeah, uh, there's so much to say. Somebody asked me the other day, how do you come up with content ideas? And I was like, I'm gonna be doing this for like another 20 years. Like, there's so much. Like, I can't stop. What do you mean? How do I come up with ideas? There's too many things. Thank you so much, Kimmy, for being here. I really, really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Thank you, Anna.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

And now it's time for our listener question of the week. And this one comes from Sherry, who is one of the members of the GLP1 Hub membership. If you want to learn more about the GLP One Hub membership, you can find the link in the show notes. So Sherry asks, why does it seem like a lot to juggle for successful weight loss and maintenance goals? I've been reading about protein, fiber, supplements, vitamins, magnesium, mitochondria, powerhouses, peptides, eating more organic foods, eating less processed, not eating. Why am I feeling a little overwhelmed? Okay. First, let's all take a deep breath together because the internet is a sea of information. And information is being thrown at us about health and nutrition and fitness and lifestyle and longevity and all of these things like crazy. Okay. But if you really listen to what all the people are saying at the end of the day, there are four pillars that one needs to focus on for good health. One is diet. Fruits and vegetables, plants, should be the foundation of a healthy diet. Whole foods. Protein is also important when it comes to nutrition. You don't need to, in order to get all of that, you really don't need anything extra to eat a well-balanced diet with whole foods focused in protein and fruits and vegetables. That is the foundation. And then if you want to eat other foods that you enjoy and you want to enjoy your life, that is fine too. But that should always be the foundation. It is very, very simple. Number two is move your body. You can get into the nitpick of fitness, of walking versus swimming versus weightlifting versus this versus that. Okay, move your body. All of that, yes, strength training is important, but moving your body is more important. Number three, and I think that this one is like something we don't really pay attention to very much, is stress management. Stress will kill you before anything else will. So figuring out how to manage your stress, whether that be through taking walks in nature, taking a break, seeing a therapist, anything like that, stress management is another pillar. And the fourth one is quality sleep. So if you lock in those four things, all the rest of this noise is a lot of noise. It's a lot of noise. So you want a nutritious diet, well-balanced, protein based in Whole Foods, movement, stress management, and sleep. And it is easy to get knocked down by all of the different things, but like if we keep the foundation, if the foundation is there, that'll get you 95% of the way to where you need to go. I hope that helps. I know it's overwhelming. I get overwhelmed too. I hope that this podcast helps you a little bit kind of sort out through some of the noise. And if you're loving the podcast, make sure that you leave a review, and I'll see you in the next episode.