Why Fiber Matters as Much as Protein on GLP-1 w/ Barbara Ruhs

Fiber powders aren't fixing your GLP-1 constipation, but the fix might already be sitting in your produce drawer.

Ana Reisdorf, MS, RD sits down with fellow registered dietitian Barbara Ruhs, nutrition lead for USA Pears, to unpack why fiber is the missing half of the GLP-1 conversation. They cover why protein gets all the attention while fiber drives the constipation, bloating, and between-meal hunger most people on Ozempic, Wegovy, Zepbound, and Mounjaro are dealing with — and why a whole-food approach beats the powder in your pantry.

IN THIS EPISODE
- Why fiber matters even more on Ozempic, Wegovy, Zepbound, and Mounjaro
- The "fiber maxing" trend and why fiber powders can make constipation worse
- Sorbitol explained: the natural sugar in pears that pulls water into your gut
- Soluble vs insoluble fiber and why whole foods give you both
- "Fiber layering" — a simple strategy to spread fiber across the day instead of dumping it in one meal

ABOUT THE GUEST
Barbara Ruhs, MS, RDN, is the Director of Nutrition Affairs and Communications for USA Pears and a trusted voice in nutrition with a career spanning fresh produce, food retail, public health, and private practice. A former retail dietitian, she is a strong advocate for dietitians pursuing non-traditional roles in the food industry and launched the first annual conference for supermarket dietitians, which ran from 2009 to 2018. Barbara has directed health professional outreach for global food brands including Avocados From Mexico, UMF™ Mānuka Honey, and Cobram Estate Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and has contributed to Progressive Grocer magazine since 2012. She holds a bachelor's from Cornell University and a master's from Boston University.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

So when we say eat a variety of foods, we're actually saying your microbiome actually wants to have a variety of different fruits and vegetables because they're getting different things. And so feeding the microbiome, there's a lot of things that happen. When you're getting enough fiber, some fibers help create a better barrier in the digestive tract. So to reduce, you know, inflammation and that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Protein gets all the attention on GLP1 and fiber, which is just as important, often gets ignored. And it's the reason for your constipation, bloating, and hunger in between meals. Welcome to the GLP1 Hub Podcast. I'm Anna Reisdorf, a registered dietitian and GLP1 user. And most people on GLP1 are getting well under the fiber they need. And the problem actually gets worse on the medication because you're eating less overall. Total intake drops right when your body actually needs it most. So today I'm joined by my friend, colleague, fellow registered dietitian Barbara Roos, who spent nine years in the avocado industry and now leads the nutrition team for USA Pears. We're talking about why fiber makes protein work smarter, not harder, why fiber powder isn't the answer most people think it is, and the simplest whole food swap to start feeling better this week. I want to thank USA Pears for sponsoring this episode. Make sure you check out all the information about the benefits of pears over at USAPars.org. And if you're, as always, if you're enjoying the podcast, please make sure you leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And if you're watching over on YouTube, drop a comment down below. Let's get on to the episode.

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SPEAKER_00 1:47

Welcome to the JLP OneHub Podcast. I want to welcome today one of my incredible colleagues, Barbara Ruse, and we are going to talk today about the nutrient that I know you are missing because everyone is missing it and is just as important as protein. But first, Barb, why don't you introduce yourself and tell the people what you do and your professional experience?

SPEAKER_01 2:07

Yes. Well, so I'm a registered dietitian. I have been lucky enough to work for two different fresh produce powerhouses. So I worked uh in the avocado industry for about nine years for avocados from Mexico, way back when uh fat wasn't cool or good fat. Uh, and now I'm working with USA Pears uh to bring another underrated fruit to Superstardom. It is a fiber powerhouse, which is what we're going to talk about today. Um and my role at USA Pears focuses on translating nutrition science uh into practical, approachable guidance people can use um in everyday life. So a big part of um this podcast today is helping people look at fiber in a more um approachable way and not just as a number on a label or um something that you're like tossing a powder into something, but real whole food that can bring a whole bunch of other things in addition to fiber. So pears happen to be a good example of that because they're a fresh whole fruit and they can easily be incorporated into snacks and meals. And by golly, they're grown right here in the United States. 85% of the pears that we consume here in the United States come from Oregon and Washington. And I represent our grower families who produce them. So hopefully I'll do that justice today. Well, avocados also have a lot of fiber, so you're just a queen of fiber. Yes. I mean, another fruit that people, well, people don't realize it's fruit and also realize that it has fiber. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Awesome, awesome. So we hear, like, I think that the people understand that they need to eat protein on GLP one. I I feel like everybody got that message, but a lot of people are not getting the fiber piece just yet. So why is fiber important in general? But then why is it even more important on GLP one?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

So just like everyone knows that protein is good for maintaining muscle mass for weight loss, fiber is equally important and often overlooked because it I like to say that fiber helps protein work smarter, not harder. So when you're taking um a GLP one, I mean, probably your audience knows a little bit about the biochemistry or or what's happening. They know physically, you know, by experiencing it, that digestion slows down a bit and they're not as hungry. And so there's some things that happen biologically in the human body when you're eating less and you're eating less frequently, or even if you're not eating enough volume, things happen like side effects such as constipation or bloating. So, so those are some of the things that pears can help with. And that's why we need fiber, because fiber actually can draw hydration into the digestive tract, add bulk, help you feel full more naturally, and help things move along so that you're not feeling icky.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Yeah, constipation is like a huge problem for my audience. And I think that it's definitely like obviously a side effect of medication, but then when they're eating less, they're not paying attention to like getting that fiber up. So it's like they go, all the intake goes down. So the fiber automatically goes down when it was already low to begin with, because we know that most people don't get anywhere near their fiber. And so it just like compounds with all of that.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

For sure. I mean, we both of us as dietitians know that fiber is not something that has gotten much attention. And of course, the whole fiber maxing phenomena on social media has brought some attention to dietary fiber. But yeah, on average, people are getting less than 10 grams per thousand calories, and you're supposed to be getting closer to 15 grams per thousand calories. So most people are falling short of dietary fiber. Now, we don't want you to overdo it, like the whole fiber maxing.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Well, can you explain that? Because I see that a lot, and I want to understand what it is. Is it just eating as much fiber as humanly possible? Maxing fiber.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Yes, it it is. And it's finding all of these hacks and tricks to kind of sneak fiber in where you may not even thought about it. Of course, having dietitians were always like talking about whole fresh foods, right? Like we always want people to eat real, real food. But there's of course tons of fiber supplements out there as well. And I think with the fiber maxing trend, like pushing fiber, fiber, fiber, people may not just be using real whole foods, which can naturally help you to because you can't eat that much, right? Of really, like if you're eating whole foods, uh like beans, for example, or pears, you wouldn't eat 10 pears at a time. You might eat, you might be able to stuff in a couple at a time, but you'd feel really uncomfortable versus like just a packet where you can like, you know, max something up. So I think, you know, the fiber maxing trend, if you're focusing on real whole foods in maximizing, you know, getting more dietary fiber, you're gonna be in a good spot because you're gonna be getting all these other nutrients.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And then sometimes do you feel that when people use like all these powders and supplements and this and that, like that may cause more digestive discomfort sometimes than if it's like from a whole food. Have you had that? Have you seen that in your experience?

SPEAKER_01 7:32

For sure. For sure. And I mean, of course, like sometimes people are in a pinch or you know, the packaging is really attractive, or you go to a food show. I know you and I probably get to go to a lot of food shows, and so you you know, you get all these samples and they're in really beautiful packaging and they have great commercials or good stuff on social media. So you want to try them, not realizing that in like a just a little packet, you can get, you know, 10 to 15 grams of dietary fiber and you swish it into like a glass of water, and that might not even be, you might not even get enough hydration for that amount of fiber. So if you're eating like a pear that naturally has hydration in it, as well as some other things like sorbitol, which is one of the things we're gonna talk about, I think a little bit, uh, that naturally helps you to get the nutrients that you need in the package and not overdo it. So yes, you can very easily overdo it. And even with high fiber foods, so like I think less about fruits and vegetables when I'm talking about, well, vegetables maybe, but like like bran flakes or something like that. Like if you're eating lots of like cereal fibers, yeah, it is pretty hard to not get enough hydration and it could really make you constipated. So, and that's also another thing I should mention. I mean, we didn't really talk about the basic basics, but there's different types of dietary fiber. So in whole foods, you're usually getting the combination of the insoluble and the soluble fiber, which kind of acts like the plunger. So you you can pull in the water and then it pushes stuff through the diet, it adds bulk. So it actually moves stuff through the digestive system. Whereas if you're getting a powder or a supplement, sometimes they don't have the the combination of the two. Like way back when we were, when our parents were taking fiber supplements for maybe cholesterol, that's usually like soluble fiber. And that actually can bind you up a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Can you talk a little bit about the hydration piece? Because I also, like you, have a large collection of fiber powders in my pantry that have been sent to me by a variety of brands, and I appreciate it greatly, but probably more than I can in halves. Talk about when you're when you're using some of those, how to get more hydration.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Yeah, so and of course, on those little packets, they do tell you, you know, blend this with 12 to 16 ounces. Nobody rate reads it though. Like you're just taking out your favorite cup and and mixing it in there, even if it's like the size of a small coffee cup, although coffee cups are giant in our country. But so a lot of times you're not getting enough hydration with like whole fresh fruit, like a pear in particular, it does naturally have hydration in it. And that actually can help you get it in the right balance versus, oh, I'm gonna eat this cement mix and it's going to get caught in my digestive tract and create more problems. Um, the other thing with hydration that you want to remember when you're having fiber is it does it's helping lubricate and things move things through the digestive tract. So if you have more hydration, things will move more quickly. Of course, when you're on a GLP one, you might be concerned about the bloating factor, like volume is an issue. So when you're eating like whole fresh fruit, you're getting it all in that one package. You're not having to gulp a big giant glass of water and then you're getting it in this package. So just even a piece of fruit, of course, we want people to eat more fruits and vegetables, but if you're looking particularly at pears, because that's who I love, or avocados, then you want to have at least a pear a day. And that's gonna give you that natural balance of hydration and fiber, in addition to eating other sources of fiber found in other food sources.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

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SPEAKER_01 12:30

But well, and you know, it I think it's interesting too, as dieticians, because a lot of things that we see as supplements, they they originally came from a whole fresh fruit or vegetable. So, like we talk about, like, of course, we're talking about fiber, but like sorbitol is one of those things that you see as an as a sweetener in like diet foods, which sorbitol is naturally found in pears. It has less calories for the sweetness of sugar. And you see sorbitol in like sugarless gums and in in other sort of diet foods, but you would naturally get it in pears. And that's one of the reasons why pears are they're they're subtly sweet, so like they're sweet, but they're actually a low glycemic index whole fruit, so not going to spike your blood sugar, and yeah, and you're getting the hydration too.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Yeah, yeah, it's cool. So there are a lot, pears are a fruit we don't always think of because we think apples, bananas, or you know, other fruits. So, what are some varieties of pears that we can um look at? And what are some ways to kind of like add them to our diet of then just eating it?

SPEAKER_01 13:43

Yeah, so before I worked in the pear industry, I would have never known this myself that there's 10 different varieties that we market under the USA pears brand in the United States. So there's yeah, 10, 10 different varieties. I think the most common variety that people are most aware of is the Bartlett pear. I call it the Bartblet pear. So if you wanted to remember that, it's the iconic green. Um, although I have some sitting on my counter. This is not a Bartlet, but it it kind of looks like this. This is an anju. Anjus are are available while they're still in existence now. Bartlett's usually get eaten up earlier in the season because all of the pears are harvested between, say, August and November, and then they go into climb control and they store them, and then you know they're they get out to retailers throughout the year. So they're available year-round, but we do eventually run out of Bartlett. So there's the Bartlett pear that turns yellow as it ripens. There's also red Bartlets, but they're less common. There's the anju pear, they also come in red and green varieties. They don't turn colors as they ripen. Here's a here's a red anju. The Bartletts and anjos are great to just snack on, like fresh. An anju has a little bit more of a bite. So it's not as it's if you don't want the soft and really like juicy pear, um, which our our research tells us that people, there's about 40% of people out there like a pear that is a little bit more crunchier. Yes. And so that's you. So so an anju pear has a little bit more firmness to it and is not as soft and and say mushy as it as it ripens. And then there's many other varieties. I'll just mention one of the other more common varieties that you'll see all over the country is the Bosque Pear, which is the pear, like the brown honey-colored pear with the long necks. Yeah, I like that. And the Bosque Pear is what I like to refer to as the foodies pear because it's great cooked. You wouldn't cook with a Bartlett pear, and you probably wouldn't cook so much with an anju because they have so much hydration in them that if you added them, like slice them onto pizza, like it would get all soggy. But like a Bosque pear doesn't have as much fluid in it. And so it it gets really sweet and beautifully tasting when you cook it. So the Bosque pear is the one that you would cook, and and some of the other varieties, like the Bartlett and the Angie, you would just eat sort of straight up. I will also mention uh like a really cool hack, and maybe you're gonna ask me this, so maybe I I shouldn't talk about it now, is uh, you know, a lot of times when we're trying not to waste food, like bananas, I have a whole pile on my uh counter here, and they get really ripe, overripe, and you're like, oh my gosh, I can't eat six bananas. I'm gonna just slice them up and put them in the freezer. It's it's the same exact thing with pears. So you can slice them and throw them in the freezer. They might turn a little brown. Uh, there's there's things that you could do to stop the browning, but it doesn't change the flavor. And then you can upcycle them and use them in smoothies, just as you would bananas. And I think it's a great hack to to remember because, well, they're higher in fiber, they're higher fiber fruit. And they also have a bit more hydration and also have that that natural sorbitol in them that that I mentioned. So it's something to remember as a way to reduce food waste and maximize your your pears as when you buy them.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

And your fiber intake, look at that. So people are using GLP one for weight loss, and there is kind of like a misunderstanding that fruit makes you gain weight that us dietitians have been fighting against for many years. So, how does how can pears actually like help in other fruits help your weight loss journey and not hinder it?

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Yeah, I that's an a very unfortunate misconception that that fruit can hinder weight loss, especially higher fiber fruits like pears or um, I mean, there's plenty of other fruits that have fiber in them as well. Sure. But, you know, whole fresh fruit is a way to get the fiber that helps you feel more satisfied, more satiated. You know, that that's a tidy factor. So that's one of the magic pieces of the GLP ones, is it is slowing down digestion so you feel fuller for a longer period of time. There's a whole bunch of other biochemical things that are going on with the GLP ones as well in your brain. But when you're getting enough dietary fiber naturally through fresh fruit, you're feeling more satisfied for a longer period of time. And so even if you transition off a GLP one and you're trying to, you know, keep habits that are going to help you maintain that weight loss over the long term, the the same principles of how you're going to be eating on the GLP1, like with whole fresh foods that are high in fiber and pairing them with protein foods, is the way to develop the routine of being able to manage this weight loss as you may come off the GLP ones. Now, some people may never want to come off a GLP one, but they are pricey or they have been expensive. And so if you're somebody that has really had severe side effects and you don't even want to take a GLP one, or you want to transition off the GLP, having foods that are good sources of both protein and fiber is the routine that you want to be getting into long term. So yeah, eating fruits and vegetables. I mean, as dieticians, we're this is this is uh, you know, taught to us very early on in our careers, you know, you want to be getting at least five or more fruits and vegetables, but very few people. I mean, my entire our entire career, in my entire career, almost 20 years in fresh produce, that number has not changed. So less than 10% of Americans consuming the recommended five or more fruits and vegetables, or five, it's now cups. It's based in the on the, well, the food pyramid is back, but it's based on servings. So five or more cups of uh fruits and vegetables, less than 10% of Americans are actually doing that.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

And it's even harder if your appetite is suppressed and you you're like, oh, I need to eat protein, and then you forget, I guess, about other things that you need and are good for you too. So talk to me a little bit. You've mentioned sorbitol a few times. I'm not sure that people know what that is really, and like what the benefits might be for digestive health.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah, so sorbitol is a natural sugar, sugar alcohol that's found in in some fruits, like pears and prunes, um, is another is another example. Prunes tend to get the most attention because they have a relatively high amount of sorbitol in comparison to other fruits. So pears have about half the sorbitol of prunes. But what's interesting is that pears are bringing together the sugar alcohol, the fiber, the hydration, in addition to the naturally occurring sugar, the sorbitol. And this actually helps the digestive tract work more effectively. Fiber is also food for the microbiome or for the gut, for the gut microbes. And sorbitol is is one of those nutrients. So just like we tell people to eat a whole variety of fruits and vegetables, like because we want you to get different nutrients and stuff, your gut microbiome also thrives by having exposure to a diversity of different food sources. So when we say eat a variety of foods, we're actually saying your microbiome actually wants to have a variety of different fruits and vegetables because different, you know, they're getting different things. And so feeding the microbiome, there's a lot of things that happen when you're feeding, when you're getting enough fiber. Some fibers help create a better barrier in the digestive tract. So to reduce, you know, inflammation and that kind of stuff. There's also some latest science that shows that fiber helps you to get rid of certain like microplastics, like because it binds to them. There's also some. Some science now that shows that different fruits and vegetables impact the gut microbiome and actually affect like how your body reacts to different like tumor growth factors and things like that. So kind of gotten away from sorbitol, but basically fiber is a food for your gut microbiome. And sorbitol is one of those sugars that is absorbed in the lower part of the small intestine. Not that anybody needs to know that. But when you have a sugar and an alcohol biochemically attached to each other, that actually pulls water into the digestive tract. This whole concept of osmolarity, I haven't been in school for a long time, but that also helps draw water into the digestive tract. And that also helps with a healthy digestive process.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

Right. So is it better than to get sorbitol? Because you mentioned at the beginning that it was in like candies or sugar-free things like that. So it I would assume it's better to get sorbitol from naturally occurring foods like pears or prunes or whatever, not these candies. Is that why people get in trouble with some of these sugar-free candies?

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Yes. Yeah. Because you're like, oh, it's sugar-free. I can eat the whole bag. No, we don't. We just wanted you to have the same amount, less, but have less of the impact on your blood sugar. So I'm I'm not a purist in any stretch of the imagination. I eat real foods. You're gonna find ice cream and candy and things in in my home. And yes, I would always recommend whole foods over any supplements. But by golly, if you like having uh soda with um a more natural sweetener like sorbitol in it, go be happy.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Sure. Sure. I think but also there's probably like many things, an individual response. Some people are more sensitive digestion-wise to certain things than others.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Yeah, I mean, certainly people that have like IBS, inflammatory bell, bowel syndrome, or some people with FODMOP sensitivities, they would be more sensitive to probably sorbitol. It's it is sugar that would irritate that. But like most things, you have to see how your body responds to it. You know, try it, and like nobody's gonna eat 10 pears at once. But if you had a pear and you slice it onto some, you usually eat it, you you could eat it with other foods, like say you're having it in a smoothie or you're having it in overnight oats or something like that, or you're having it on top of cottage cheese, protein food, you might not have that same sort of reaction.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

Right, right. Always whole foods is always a a good good bet. So if people are thinking about fiber and GLP one and even people who aren't on GLP one, how can we all work on increasing our fiber in a way that's more supportive of our digestive system without uh relying on a million powders and potions?

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah, so um I I love the media and media dietitians, how they kind of come up with really memorable and fun ways to do things, strategies to help people. And there's this concept. So fiber maxing was first, that was two years ago, like all over social. And now there's this concept called fiber layering, which really is just trying, you know, finding ways to spread fiber-rich foods throughout the day instead of trying to get them all at once and in one big, one big dose of of fiber foods. So, like throughout the day, like with breakfast, if you're thinking about protein, think, oh, better together. How could I get some fiber in here? So if I'm making like uh I make a breakfast gruel with like chia seeds and um oats and what else is in there? Um, there's hemp in there and wheat germ, sunflower seeds, you know, all the things. And then I always put some type of fruit in there. So this morning I had blueberries and pears. I do eat a lot more pears now that I work in that the industry, but I will, you know, always find a way that I'm gonna naturally balance those things. So that's like a breakfast idea. If you're having beans, you know, I have never had more beans in my life with the fiber maxing thing, like because it's okay. Everybody's like, oh, why don't we have some beans? So I make lots of soups with beans. You know, so that's another way to add protein and fiber into meals naturally, layering it. When you're having dips and things, adding veggies, of course. I love adding nuts and seeds to things. Those are also protein sources, but also have some dietary fiber in them. So this whole idea of like pairing things, no pun intended, but pun intended, pairing fiber-rich foods with protein sources is a great way to think about it and layering it throughout the day. So, like this is again, you're trying to, as a person on GLP one, this is also your opportunity to test and train yourself to get into a routine of eating healthy for the rest of your life. And maybe that's not the best way behaviorally to tell people the rest of your life. This is like, but if you get into these habits, then it becomes part of your natural routine. Like, of course, on on Instagram or like social, like I I have not ever gotten into the meal prep thing. I wish I I wish I have, because like dinner time comes. I'm like, oh, dinner time, what am I gonna make? Yes, or something, you know, what what's for dinner? Um, and sometimes I just want to opt out, like cereal for dinner, because I don't know what to make. Um, especially if I haven't gone to the grocery store. But um, you know, the whole idea of bringing that up is getting yourself into good routine so that you can maintain this forever. And like GLP ones, yes, they they are great medications that offer um a solution and a jumpstart to millions of people. But are they do you have to stay on one forever? I mean, of course, that's a personal medical decision, but there's a lot of people that can do very well without having a GLP one just by improving their eating. Of course, this is the diet dietitians have been saying this since the beginning of time, right? But there's a place for everything. And if the GLP ones are helping you, that's fantastic, wonderful. But use is that use it also as an opportunity to maybe practice and and develop some really good eating habits when you're not so ravit. I mean, there's some really great things that happen on the GLP ones, like the food noise and that kind of thing. That, okay, you're not tempted by all these things. So, okay, let's maximize that opportunity to and you also may have, I mean, I've written a lot about this, that you may also have a have different preferences for foods and you might actually prefer really healthy, fresh tasting foods versus some of the foods that are maybe designed to, you know, light up the uh the dopamine uh reward center in the brain. So if you're, you know, ha if you're noticing that in yourself on a GLP one, hey, take advantage of that and try and experiment with some healthy eating strategies that you can bake into a routine.

SPEAKER_00 29:23

Yeah. That's what I like about it, is it really gives you like quiets all the noise down so you can think clearly and then start putting those habits in place and whether you stay on the medication or not, you know, TBD, but at least you can start implementing some of the things that were really challenging before.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Yeah, I read your, I don't know if it was your latest newsletter where you were talking about like the, and I don't know if it was just the the spring blues or whatever, but it was how like ahedonia can set in with the GLP ones because it affects the reward center of the brain. And this might actually be a real thing. So some people might need a break from the GLP one for a little bit to maybe get some more. I am a food lover, right? I'm a dietitian. I I'm I want people to eat healthy, but I also want them to enjoy food. And so if you're, you know, I I really enjoyed reading that piece because it got me thinking, like, oh, you know, like you might be losing weight and successful, but if you're so uninterested in eating and that was something that you miss, you know, the enjoyment of maybe going out and having a meal with people or or just in general enjoyment because that's part of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

That's so interesting, all the changes. So, where can people learn more about pears and what they should do with them and the 10 different types and all that stuff?

SPEAKER_01 30:46

So USA Pears.org is our website. We are a nonprofit group that you know is supporting US growers of pears. And uh, yeah, there's there's tons of information on our website. And of course, there's plenty of resources out there. I'm seeing pears everywhere now. So yeah. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

I have them in my fridge now because of you, Barb. So thank you. Awesome. My job is done. Okay, on to the next commodity. Sounds good. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks, Anna. This is such a pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

I appreciate you having me.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

No problem. Thank you for listening to this fun conversation about fiber and the benefits of pears. And I hope the next time you are at the store that you will grab yourself some pears because they are great for fiber and GLP1 nutrition. Make sure you visit usapears.org to learn more about their health benefits. They also have some delicious recipes over there that you're gonna want to check out. So I'll see you in the next episode.