25. A Podcasting Conversation with Kristy Wolfe - Personhood Resources and Elevator Pitches

Kristy Wolfe, digital storytelling facilitator and Co-Created podcast host, interviews Lisa in this episode!  They explore how short, intentional stories help clinicians see the person behind the patient and why clarity, consent, and ownership make storytelling safer and more effective. Along the way, we share tools from Waiting Room Revolution, VR training, and Lisa's wish to grow a hub for life‑story resources.

Episode Key Messages
• year‑in‑review on Story Slam, Beth’s digital story, and lessons learned
• defining the podcast’s mission to capture essence for care
• building a directory for storytellers, facilitators, and DIY resources
• crafting clear elevator pitches and consent frameworks
• using AI for drafts while keeping human voice
• highlights from Waiting Room Revolution’s seven keys and workbook
• practical personhood tools for end‑of‑life planning
• VR training for person‑centered communication in dementia care
• identity, voice, and finding assertiveness through story
• simple ways families can start private podcasting

Other Links Mentioned

• Beth's Capturing Essence for Care Episode (#21 - From Love Letter to Legacy)
• The Waiting Room Revolution and practical workbooks, Capturing Essence for Care Ep 16
• VR training for person-centred communication and reading environments, Capturing Essence for Care Ep 17
• Check out the upcoming Common Language Story Slam (April 30th in person or online)
• Listen to Kristy's original podcast interview on Capturing Essence for Care

About Kristy:  

Kristy Wolfe is a digital storytelling facilitator and a Wolfe Pack Warrior. She believes there is beauty in every story and she champions real stories in marketing and communication. Kristy exposes the human side of any organization, with consideration for ethics in storytelling, as well as storyteller wellness every step of the way.

Connect with Kristy

• Learn more about Kristy Wolfe's work
• Listen to the Co-Created Podcast

Thank you for listening!

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Intro and outro music with thanks:  Upbeat and Sweet No Strings by Musictown 

Lisa brings over 25 years of experience working in healthcare settings with older adults. The perspectives shared on this podcast are her own and do not represent the views of any past or current employer. Patient/resident stories are shared only with explicit permission or as anonymized composites for educational purposes.

Transcript

Welcome And Context

Lisa 0:04

Welcome to Capturing Essence for Care, where we discuss the importance of incorporating personal life stories into healthcare and share ideas to help you on your journey. I'm your host, Lisa Joworski. Hi everyone. Today's episode is a little bit different. This episode was actually Kristy Wolf, who I interviewed way back in episode five of my podcast, Capturing Essence for Care. And I've been on her podcast before too. Her podcast is called Co-Created, in case you wanted to check that out. And so she asked for me to come back on her show to give her an update on what's been going on over the past year since our last conversation. So this is her interviewing me. I hope that you enjoy it. We talk about all sorts of things like the common language digital storytelling Kickstarter that we did. I talk about some of the podcast episodes that I've done that she was interested in, like Dr. Sammy Winemaker, as well as Beth, the one that I did the digital story with. I mention other podcasts that I think are worth checking out. We also talk about figuring out and fine-tuning our elevator pitch. So you'll hear me talk a little bit more about capturing Essence for Care and how I was trying to be more succinct and effective in my messaging. And so I did mention that too. If you listen to the solo episode I did not too long ago for the end-of-year reflections about how I'm kind of changing the subtitle and the messaging of the podcast of Capturing Essence for Care, but not necessarily the idea behind it. This is a fun and somewhat humorous conversation, in my opinion. And I do hope it brings a smile to your face as you listen. I'd love to hear what you think, and I hope you enjoy.

Kristy Wolfe 2:06

With me today is Lisa Joworski. Lisa is one of the common language digital storytelling facilitators. You may recognize her name from episode 17. She was on in May of 2024. So that's a year and a half ago. Lisa, we're going to talk about what's happened for you since that first podcast. And if people are not familiar with you yet, they might also go back and listen to the original podcast. All right, tell us what's been happening for you since your first co-created episode.

Lisa 2:45

And I started my own podcast called Capturing Essence for Care. And I I want to thank you for all of your support in doing that because you've really helped to guide me with you kind of steering the way with your podcast with Co-Created. So uh it's been a learning journey for me, one that I am loving. So that's been the main piece. And also, I guess I would back up and say I was looking at when we did our first interview together, and that was in May 2024. So since then, we did the story slam, the digital story slam for common language. So that's something that's been going on as well, because that was a big deal with the, you know, the first annual Kickstarter that we did that time. Worked on that digital story with I was supporting um McCormick Dementia Services. So we did a digital story with Beth. And so Beth is going to be on the podcast coming up at the end of this first year of my podcast. Um, so lots, lots of things, but those are probably the big ones I'd say that are worth mentioning here.

Defining The Podcast’s Mission

Speaker 2 3:54

So the story slam, that was huge. It was great to see you and Beth was there with you. And we actually got to watch the interview. So we watched the story, heard the interview, you both talking to each other. It's always incredible to hear from storytellers. And I have to say, Lisa, getting to listen to your podcast and hearing some of the other common language facilitators come on your podcast and talk about their role in storytelling with the way that you've brought storytelling together. Because your focus of your podcast isn't just digital storytelling. It is storytelling, it is dementia care, it is supports. Will you explain more about your podcast? Because I really want to get into that with you.

Building A Storytelling Resource Hub

Lisa 4:31

I'm glad you're even that we're talking about this because lately I'm working on becoming more clear on what it is I'm doing. And I do, I'm very clear in my mind. It's just a matter of like, how do I explain this out loud and describe in a succinct way? So what I'm really hoping is I know the importance, which is why I got into common language, digital storytelling, and guided autobiography and anything that's relating to personhood and storytelling, is that I believe that having a little video, like little ways to really understand who a person is, if and when they ever enter the healthcare system, whether it be hospital, long-term care, retirement, because I do work mostly with the senior population. So because it made a difference in my life seeing a video, uh, and it wasn't a planned thing, it wasn't intentional, it wasn't digital storytelling. It was just a family member who had this video on her phone. So that was 20, 25 years ago now, and that still sticks in my head on how it changed my ability to help support that client that I was working with who had later stages of dementia and a specific kind called frontal temporal dementia, which is different in itself. So that has stuck with me as I've worked with people through the years on advocating and supporting people when they move into say long-term care or they go to hospital. And then no fault really of the healthcare system, like the the individuals, the healthcare professionals, but there's not a lot of time to be digging and finding out about a person's life story or knowing their whole background. So the whole idea was like, can't we just have like quick little snippets, a way to get to know the person more than like the details and the data, but being able to understand their nonverbal communication and understanding that piece, the character, their personality. So that's really been the reason why I started the podcast and was so interested in this digital storytelling and the life story methods. But what I'm hoping now is I don't see myself like I do work, I work full-time. So the podcast is on this side. And so what I'm really focused on and I hope I can create is to really be a connector of people who are doing storytelling work, like you, like digital storytellers, like guided autobiographers, like videographers, like anyone doing this type of work, and helping to connect, like have almost like a hub of resources. So I'm thinking maybe I need to create a website that has a whole directory, like a yellow page is full of just life story resources. Um, because I don't think that there's one right way to do it. So, you know, like whether you're looking to write it, you're looking for video, you're looking for a song, whatever it might be. I think that everybody's unique. So whether it's for healthcare or not, I do believe that capturing your story somehow is important for whether it's, you know, your own family or generations to come, or you just therapeutically want to work through something and process through it yourself. I think it's so important. So I don't necessarily want to do the stories. I want to be a connector for the people looking to have that service provided if they need that support or some do-it-yourself ideas and connect them with the right resources.

Community Of Practice And Clear Pitches

Speaker 2 8:05

I think that's really interesting how you've talked about that because I agree. When I do an intro to digital storytelling, I'm like, here's what digital storytelling is. Here's some examples, here's how we do the process. But this might not be for you. It's not for everyone. You find what works for you, and it is very much for me about the process of telling a story, however, that is. And you've mentioned music and song, and I would also add photography in there was a way that I did a lot of processing of storytelling. And so I love that we're talking about this right now. I love digital storytelling, but it is not for everyone. And I really would like the way you've curated all these different methods of storytelling and done training in many of them to have that experience yourself and really be able to draw on all of those different methods. And I would highly recommend that the people listening to this podcast. I mean, you're gonna hear it on Co-Created, but it's also gonna go out on Capturing Essence for Care. And so take a look at some of Lisa's other podcasts. If you're like, I like digital storytelling, but what else is there? That is a wonderful, wonderful place to start. I also wanted to touch on a few things you said just with the idea of jumping in and trying things. Like you talked about how like you saw what I was doing and I was like, yep, and I just jumped in and tried it, and then you did it. And then we get to have these interesting conversations about like, well, how do you how do you market this or how do you cut a video for social media or whatever it is? But it's really nice to have that community of practice, which is one of the things that I love about common language, that there's other people who are doing the same kind of work, whether that's digital storytelling or you and I talking about podcasting, that you can ask those questions, you can kind of shoot ideas off of each other, and that makes such a big difference. The other thing that I was thinking about is your elevator pitch idea for your podcast, because that's something just recently that I've really had to work on around digital storytelling. I had a project come up that was um, there was some confusion over the ownership of stories. And as a digital storytelling facilitator, you know that the storyteller owns the story. And the organization I was working with was like, no, you have to give us the stories. It's our stories if we're paying for it. And it prompted me, because I was in a course with McMaster University called Family Engagement and Research Leadership Academy. And our task in that 10-week course was to have a leadership plan, but it was also to pitch an idea. And my pitch is what is digital storytelling? It's a three-minute video that I've created just exactly about what it is, because I find that not all the stakeholders in a story project always know what they're getting into. So when there is a storyteller, a facilitator, an organization who is hoping to use the story and then also a funder, are they all on the same page? How do you get them there? And so what you're saying about the podcast and trying to find the way to get it out of your head and say it to everybody really stood out to me. It was it was a lot of work to get there, but I'm really happy with it. I will link it into this podcast. Awesome. Because I need to keep talking about it, right? Like once you do it, you have to then also keep talking about it. What are you gonna do to get that elevator pitch? Do you have a plan about how you want to share what the podcast is? Like when you share with a guest, when you say to somebody like Sammy Winemaker, whose podcast I want to talk about, um, when you say to somebody, I'd like you to come on this, how do you invite them?

Lisa 11:41

Great question. I so right now I I I do have a little bit of a spiel where I just say exactly pretty much verbally what I said to you. On I believe that capturing essence, that's why it's called capturing essence for care. If we can just capture the essence of someone through video, I see the importance of that. So I acknowledge the work, whoever it is so far that's been on the podcast, on what they're doing. I also interview people who have lived experience. So, for example, Ron Bellino, he is an advocate and his dad had dementia. So he he really talks and presents at different places uh and is involved in a lot of caregiver advocacy. And so, what I like about him is he still uses video and he's mentioned how important he sees the value of video, he uses it in a different way, but he's done some digital storytelling. Um, it might not be exactly the way that we do it, but he sees the value behind it. So whether I'm reaching out to people who, you know, are using photography or writing or whatever it might be, I can connect them to say we have some similarities and some commonalities on where our values lie and what we're working on and what we feel strongly about. So for that reason, I'm hoping to connect to see if we can find other things that might grow from that commonality.

Speaker 2 13:12

Okay, so if you're listening to this podcast right now, we will have Lisa's contact information in there. If you know of storytelling methods that are being done with care partners, with people with dementia, in healthcare that you're not hearing us talk about but might be of interest, please reach out. That's one of the ways that I think that it keeps moving forward, right? You might bring somebody on the podcast and then they tell you about somebody else, and you're like, oh, let me go see that. But I love this yellow pages of storytelling idea.

Lisa 13:43

Maybe that's maybe that's my tagline. The yellow pages of life storytelling.

Speaker 2 13:50

Um, people in your demographic will definitely understand that, but like our newer generation might not know what you're talking about. They're like, what? Is that like a link tree? How does that even work?

Speaker 1 14:03

I knew this conversation was gonna be fun. Do you have any ideas for me? What would you say, Christy?

Elevating Clarity With A Three-Minute Pitch

Speaker 2 14:11

I think the video piece, like a short video, is something that you know how to do. I did a script and our pitch had to be three minutes. It couldn't be longer than three minutes. So it is a three-minute script. I practice it and practice it. I thought I might turn it into a digital story, and then I was like, actually, I don't want to. So the intro of this little video is like, hey, I want storytelling to be a bigger part of education, advocacy, and research. But I want to make sure everybody understands what they're getting into, especially the person telling the story. And then I said, this is a script, it has some images, but this is not a digital story. So very particularly calling out what it was not. That for me was really helpful. So I actually just read the script like we would if we were recording a digital story, but then I just used like my talking head, I used a few images to tie it in, and I use the common language framework of like the four phases so that I talk through a bit of that. So for me, that's been really helpful. And quite honestly, similarly to when you're actually working on a digital story, like spending time on the drafts of the script is a huge part of figuring out how you want to say it. And I shared it with some of our other facilitators and asked for feedback uh before I submitted it. So it was like a bit of like a drafting process, but it got me to the point where I was like, okay, I have clearly now said what I need to say. And then at the very end, the call to action was like, do you have any more questions? If you do, watch a few digital stories and join me for an intro session. So that idea of like, here's the next step, and yours would be something like listen to an episode of Capturing Essence for Care. Then ask me your question.

Lisa 15:58

And on what you've just said, I think even the elevator pitch, I would compare it to finding the story, right? Like when you're talking about the four phases of digital storytelling, finding the story, at least for me, is the hardest part. And it takes forever. And now we have AI. So you could you could go blah and mention all that stuff in whatever Chat GPT or Claude or whatever it might be, and it will give you an elevator pitch, but it has to make sense to you. And whether you use it or you don't, there's a lot you can gain from trying to process that information yourself and getting to that point.

Speaker 2 16:35

I'm really glad you brought up like AI because it's very useful in many of the roles that I hold. And so when I use the podcast, and and Lisa and I have talked about this, the way that I use the podcast, we take the conversation, it goes into AI, and that's how I get the description for the podcast because we've said all the things. It's in the conversation. So why would I remake the wheel of like, let me listen over and over and over and try and get that quote? And like, no, there's ways to use it efficiently. Similarly, with any kind of storytelling that's written, I would say it can be helpful for a first draft when you have lots of ideas and you've kind of got an outline. I don't ever use it as a final draft.

Lisa 17:14

It's more like a guide, you know? I use it like a coach, like a friend. Yeah. Like how help me work through this. These are the things going on.

Speaker 2 17:22

Okay, we need to talk about your podcast a little bit more. Okay, okay. I want to kind of bring us back to capturing essence for care. And I want you to think about since you've started doing this podcast, what are some episodes that you're proud of or you were excited to talk with that guest? I'm sure everyone, you can say, yes, every one of them, but let's focus in on a couple that you just want to draw attention to. Boy, that's hard. I knew it would be, and it was mean to ask, but I'm doing it anyway.

Using AI Wisely In Story Work

Lisa 17:50

Well, I you were on my podcast, and when you were on, we talked briefly about Story Slam and about Beth. And I remember you saying, Well, I hope you have Beth on, you know, the one that I did the digital story with. And so I'm really excited for I did interview her, and so that one's coming out. That was a really rewarding conversation because I don't know, you don't often get feedback on the work that you're doing. And so I guess it was nice to reflect and reminisce on that whole experience, like from us driving at 3 a.m. to the airport to you know, getting there and what that whole experience was like for her. And to hear how thankful she was. She mentioned you, Christy, and how how important she was made to feel and how uh empowered she was. And I think just the whole experience was very rewarding for her and for me. So it was nice to be able to go over like what was it like creating that digital story? What was it like when we actually worked on finding the story, on telling the story, went through all of those different phases. Um, so to hear her feedback on what that was like for her helped me to go, like it's just kind of like a pat on the back, you know?

Speaker 2 19:07

Yeah, yes. I cannot wait to listen to Beth's episode. Because you're right, you don't often get like, especially with some time and space between creating the story. Like sometimes people are like, oh, this was a really great experience when you're finishing it. But to be able to go back and have a conversation later on, where there was the process of creating the digital story, but then there was also the story slam where she came and was in an audience with a group of people who were super excited about this and was interviewed about her experience. That lends itself in a whole different way to how a story can be shared and shared well with care for storyteller and audience in mind. And so you are getting me really excited for this year's Story Slam, which is happening on April 30th in Calgary, in case anybody wants to come. Beth, you should come. And right now the submissions are open. So this year it's a little different where anybody who has created a digital story in 2024 or 2025 can submit their story, and the 12 digital stories will be chosen from those. Um, so it'll still be virtual in case people want to attend. Maybe Beth, that might be a better option for you this year, but I'd love to see you in real life. And so maybe you're watching virtually, or maybe you're coming to Calgary and watching the Story Slam in person, but it's just bringing people together to have conversation. I mean, that's what our podcasts are all about. It's having conversation about story. And I'm so excited. So I've said it like 17 times. I'm excited to listen to Beth's episode. Lisa, what else? Are there other ones that you have done this year that you're like, oh, that was incredible.

Episodes To Queue: Beth And Reflection

Lisa 20:39

So I remember when you and I were at the retreat a couple of years ago, the common language retreat. Yeah. And I think you were still doing the podcast with the other like leading through stories. Leading through stories. And so one of us, I can't remember who started the conversation, but one of us mentioned Sammy Winemaker, Dr. Sammy Winemaker, and the waiting room revolution. And because I was listening to podcasts all the time, and I think you were as well, one of us mentioned the name, and the other one was like, Yeah, I listen to that too. So I love that we have that in common. So I interviewed her for the podcast. And so that's another one that I think is worth listening to. They have a whole ambassador program and initiative where they're really honestly trying to create this movement where it is, it's about community and where they're wanting people to share more about like how can we listen better, how can we support each other, and how can we feel stronger in advocating for ourselves when it comes to healthcare. So there's some similarities between the storytelling, the creating a community, and you know, the the for me, the capturing essence, especially in the later stages of life, whether it's you know, palliative care. care or not, you're still proactively thinking about how can I share my message and how can I make sure that other people know about me when it really matters, right? So that's one I think that is, yeah, definitely worth checking out.

Speaker 2 22:13

Wait, I'm gonna talk about that one for a second because co-created our first episode of this season was with Tom Lee. And he actually talks about their book in there. And that was like what prompted me to reconnect with you about Sammy Winemaker because he has colon cancer and he was talking on the podcast, his digital story is very much about palliative care and like end of life and preparing for that. And it's it's amazing. I would definitely get people to go look at that story. It's pretty amazing. But one of the things he talks about is like coming to terms with that and finding their book and the waiting room revolution and we ended up talking about Sammy Winemaker and her partner.

Lisa 22:50

Cien Siao Dr.

Advocacy And The Waiting Room Revolution

Speaker 2 22:52

Cien Siao yeah yeah I love when these kinds of things happen where someone else brings something up that we've already talked about that then like re-sparks us having a new conversation about it. And you're not always ready for things at a given time. The Waiting Room Revolution has been in the back of my mind for probably five years. And it feels like right now is exactly the time that I need to be starting to think about that again in my personal life as well as like in some of the work that I do with the Wolfpack Warriors Foundation and some of the storytelling work. So it's I feel like it's it gets regifted to you in different ways. And hearing people who I know, I love reading books that I know the people who have written them I love having conversations with people where I know their work. I want to talk about the people and the things that are happening that I have some kind of connection to do you know what I mean?

Lisa 23:40

Yeah absolutely and I I on that note I would say because Waiting Room of Revolution obviously we we mentioned that they have a podcast and they have workbooks and a a book called Hope for the best plan for the rest. Yes. So that's the book and then they have a workbook that goes along with it and a summary page I guess at the end. I have the book I don't have the workbook yet um but I think it's pretty cool she was talking about how there's a one page summary in the end that kind of summarizes all of their different seven keys that they talk about in their book. So it's kind of like I talk about there's like a you can do a one page personhood tool right like when you're working with somebody with dementia as a quick reference to get to know them like these are the things I like these are things I don't these are my hobbies, my interests and so on. So anyway she there's one that's let's say similar to that on like what really matters what do people need to know about you for end of life. So I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 24:39

Well I have to tell you that um in the summer I actually went and went to your Etsy store and downloaded all of like bought and downloaded all of your starters because again we're just hitting a stage of life where those conversations are happening with my parents' generation and so how how do we start thinking about that and opening conversations knowing that it usually takes people a while to warm up to that conversation.

Tools For End-Of-Life Conversations

Lisa 25:04

Yeah yeah okay I'm down today well thank you for going to my Etsy shop too absolutely uh okay what was that do you remember the other podcast that you were thinking you wanted to share so number 17 is revolutionizing dementia care through VR training and so Dr. Marie Savunjunayagum she has an initiative of virtual reality training program and it's called Be Epic and it's teaching healthcare providers person-centered communication skills and she does just amazing work so she talks about different avatars that she has and so staff members currently I think eventually it'll open up so hopefully like family members and other care partners can understand how to effectively communicate with one another whether you know when a person has dementia so she talks a lot about how um you can use so many things in your environment and she actually helped me I was like everybody should have this personhood like information so she said but the the reality of it is a lot of staff don't and they go into that situation go into somebody's room and they don't know that person even though they they might try they might think they know so I love the fact she's talking more about in long-term care the education right now but she's focusing on how using what's in the person's environment so when you don't know them see if there's pictures on the walls that you know have their family members or what they're saying or paying attention to their nonverbal communication so that you know if you notice that they're upset not just like you know passing by that but be in the moment you know address address that emotion and and really be present when when you're communicating so that was a really cool conversation because of course like my mind is well everybody should have this and yes of course they should but that's not where we are so I love the fact that she's again helping us to capture essence in different ways like just being in the moment focusing on the environment seeing what's around the person either on the walls or if they have a book by their bedside or you know something they're holding on to or just their body language there's so much that we can learn from one another through what we see right through the people and our surroundings. So that was another really cool one.

Speaker 2 27:30

Okay I haven't listened to that one I'm definitely going to listen to that one. I appreciate this like conversation about it's sometimes hard to know which ones and there's so many podcasts out there. And so it's nice to have a conversation about this. I also as you were talking just remembered that I have recently finished a digital story with a recreation therapist here in the Bow Valley. Oh cool once that story has been approved I would love to send to you as she has a similar role to what you are doing. I think that there would be a really interesting conversation that you two could have coming out of that.

Speaker 1 28:02

Yeah.

Speaker 2 28:02

Yeah it was just it was really neat to get to talk about it. And she like describes recreation therapy within the digital story. So when we're talking about the elevator pitches because there's so many roles that people are like what does that mean? I'm not sure right recreation therapist is one of them. So it was neat the way she did that. Okay I have a whole list of books to read and podcasts to listen to um so when I'm bringing facilitators common language facilitators back on I always want to talk about projects that they're working on or projects that are coming up that they're excited about what's coming up for you at the beginning of our conversation I mentioned about how I'm trying to get clear with you know this podcast and this yellow pages of life story information that I talked about.

VR Training And Person-Centered Communication

Lisa 28:49

So I I think I think for me I I've over the past year let's say I did we did the Beth digital story and I'm working on if I was to do a digital story I guess right now I'm working on just reflecting on what really is going to help me develop my next steps. I've done two digital stories so far Capturing Essence which you're you're well aware of that was my very very first digital story and then I did another one after that called learning to listen and that was really about reflecting on a time like a stress sleeve actually where you know getting through an emotional challenging time where it was just I would I refer to that as the sandwich generation and all things happening at the same time including work and family uh you know children parents all the things yeah and so now I feel like the story that I would work on is finding my own voice and I'm realizing that I could I have I feel like I have the emotional intelligence piece down. Like that's great. I and like that's a good skill. I think one thing I need to work on and maybe a digital story would help me is maybe being a little bit more assertive and not going along with or like that sounds that that's good, you know, but more more the assertive side where it's okay for me to to speak up if I if I don't want things a certain way or I don't like things a certain way. So I feel like I'm getting that point in my life where it's another journey of evolving and growing and and feeling like I I have a voice that's more than listening and being compassionate for others, but also realizing like what I have to share and what I feel is important also I think deserves a voice too.

Speaker 2 30:44

That really resonates with me and the idea of like yes that's a good idea and here's what I need that and to me I'm being conscious of like not the but but the and is an important thing to me and I have wanted for a while and maybe this is the time but I love the ampersand symbol I have thought about getting that tattoo for a long time because it's something that really fits with like I often think about the multiple pieces of who we are I'm this and this. I want this and this and it just it always comes back to me and it's been a few years and you saying that literally I was like that's a great tattoo idea.

Lisa 31:28

Uh-huh tattoos are another great story piece by the way it's all about identity. You're not gonna get something put on your body that doesn't stand for something for you. Oh my gosh. So that and scars are great storytelling questions like tell me about a scar, tell me about a tattoo tell me about a tattoo idea just putting it out there for us storytellers.

Speaker 2 31:50

Apparently I'm getting a new tattoo friends uh wasn't expecting that out of this conversation okay so we've actually also even talked about because I always end this podcast with if you were going to create a new digital story what would it be about and you've already talked about that. So I hope you do even if it's just the script piece of it and if it helps you get clarity on the podcast and what you want to be doing because that does still feel like a next step in the evolution of Lisa Jaworski and the storytelling piece. And I I just want to say Lisa I always enjoy our conversations you're welcome on this podcast at any time and I'm going to try and strong arm you into coming to the retreat and the story slam this year with Common Language.

Lisa 32:35

I don't think it'll take much strong arming me neither thank you and I I want to ask you so many questions but we might need to wait until we do another one and you can come on my podcast. Ooh well obviously stay tuned we'll be back can I add one more thing yes you can add one more thing I think it's I would say to Christy first of all thank you again for coaching me through the whole podcasting piece and and oh there it is and I would say that podcasting for those because I come from like all of the things could be some kind of storytelling is that people could use podcasting for their stories right capturing I thought that was such a cool idea there's families that record each other and then they just keep them and put them in a little podcast where it could even be private just for them. So lots of ways to capture your stories.

Speaker 2 33:31

We'll just shout out we use StreamYard we both use StreamYard it's a wonderful little application that we can pull podcast audio or keep the video and uh so if you're looking for something to record a podcast of your family members there you go. Yeah that's awesome.

Lisa 33:47

Thank you Christy this has been great thanks for listening today if you enjoyed this episode take a minute to look at the show notes for resources and links and be sure to leave me a rating and review. And also you can follow the show so that you get notified of when the next one comes out. And lastly if you can think of somebody in your life who you think would enjoy this podcast I hope you share it with them as well so that they can listen in on the conversations and ponder how to capture their own essence. Take care and I look forward to the next time