Laughs without Lager

Sober School Holidays

• Ali and Meg

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What if the school holidays weren’t a blur of recovery but a season you actually remember? We get honest about how alcohol once ran the schedule—stacking holiday programs to make space for hangovers, leaning on sleepovers and grandparents, and calling it “normal.” Then we map the upgrade: sober camping trips that count even when it’s just one night, late-night teen pickups without the panic, and family milestones—like a 90th birthday—where every laugh lands because we’re truly there.

We unpack the lie that celebrations need booze. If the grand final, Melbourne Cup, or a Sunday barbecue is genuinely fun, why did we need to drink to enjoy it? That question opened a door. Some traditions stayed; others didn’t. We talk about rebuilding relationships without blame, how anger and resentment dissolved when our bodies finally had capacity, and why presence beats perfection every time. The wins are simple and huge: clear mornings, steady energy, better sleep, and memories that stick.

You’ll hear practical ways to make school break feel like a break: slow walks to spot spring flowers, easy meals, earlier nights, reading in peace, and plans you can keep because you’re not recovering from last night. We also tackle friendships formed around drinking, the shift to choosing people by values instead of volume, and the relief of being the reliable ride when your teens call at 11 p.m. If you’re sober-curious or already alcohol-free, this is a grounded, hopeful look at what changes when you swap numb for presence.

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SPEAKER_01:

Megsy.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey Ali. How are you?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm good.

SPEAKER_00:

Happy school holidays. Ooh. Woo! School holidays. So it's school holidays in WA.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, so we've just started, but you're already a week in. So No, we're not. This is our first week. What? Well, that's weird because generally, normally it's we go a week behind.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay. No, um, yesterday was like our first day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. Well, yesterday was our public holiday. Oh, okay. The king's birthday, and um we, you know, I worked, so good old double bubble.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, thank you very much. Yes, double pay.

SPEAKER_01:

Double pay, gotta love it. And then today I'm on my day off. So been out walking the dogs, and now I've got, you know, I'm clear and present and ready to talk to you about today's episode.

SPEAKER_00:

Yo! Well, that sounds really nice. Uh, we have our long weekend next weekend, which means absolutely zilch to me, uh, because I am on school holidays and my business is just whenever I can fit clients in. I don't do the um the public holidays, but and especially in the school holidays, I feel like it's wasted. I want out of the school holidays, but we've got it's called Labor Day, so it's not our King's birthday. That happens in June for us.

SPEAKER_01:

Ah, see, we have that's the opposite. Our Labor Day is 1st of June. How bizarre. And then the King's birthday, which used to be the Queen's birthday, and it was my I have to say a shout out to my mum who is 90. Oh, amazing! And her birthday's that long weekend of what would be the Queen's birthday. So it was quite fitting, you know, Mum the Queen of our family. Um, but now it's the king because obviously, you know, RIP the queen. So yeah, big shout out to Mum Margaret. Um, so next this weekend coming, we're going to her 90th party, and I'm gonna put my hand up for MC.

SPEAKER_00:

That is so cool. Stepping out of your comfort zone.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Um awesome. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, so it's a school holiday, so I figure maybe I don't know, for me, it used to be a license to party party and do fuck all parenting, really, because you could sleep in. Um you just went in that routine, which for a for a pissed is wonderful because uh, you know, no one likes to get out of bed with a hangover and drop the kid at school.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, my experience of school holidays was I I was trying to think about it, and because so I haven't had a drink in the last four years almost, and then before that was COVID, and then I was thinking before that was probably my nightly drinking for a couple of years, where it was just consistent through school holidays, through school. I did have a fear around dropping the kids at school and getting pulled over the next day, you know, that hangover over the limit. Um, and I went to work and I did all the stuff, but when thinking back, I had um two kids under like 16, so 10 and something. So I really had to do stuff. I couldn't get away with just chilling at home. So quite often, my way to have the holidays to myself was to put them in school holiday programs, but it didn't, I didn't go and drink because I had to pick them up. But it was still a way I could just sleep if I wanted, do what I wanted, just not have to look after them. Yeah, and I guess in a way that was my way of yes, I'd drop them off and then I could come home and sleep if I wanted, if I was hung over. Um, so I guess I did use them the school holidays in a different way, but then they got to an age where they didn't necessarily want to do that, and yeah, I guess it was just a struggle a lot just to keep them occupied and something that's not too exhausting when you're in that drinking cycle. So pretty yuck, really, yeah, when I think about it, and very different now. So happy about that.

SPEAKER_01:

You've obviously got a couple more kids than I do. Um, but we used to have my daughter used to have another little friend that was an only child as well. So for her, it was great to have, you know, because then I wouldn't have to sit and play Barbie or, you know, watch the whatever movie Azillion for the 10th hundredth time. Um, but yeah, so I sort of used to lean on other people's friends to entertain my own, and then that would then bring the parents together, so then we'd all sit around and drink while the kids played, and then we'd sort of like, oh you know, can such and such stay at your house and have a sleepover, and then we'd kind of do it that way, and then obviously then the grandparents. Um, when you know we wanted to actually do something completely different, we would then palmer off to the um thingies. I mean, I guess I used to work as well, so that they could be a bit tricky, the school holidays. It wasn't all just you know, drink, piss, and party. Um, on reflection, yeah, no, we did work, but it was a struggle to um get care, I guess. Yeah, um, you know, which is probably not easier now in this world of everything so bloody expensive.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, childcare, all that kind of stuff. And also I think what it'd be different, I mean, I used screens if I had to go watch TV. It was more TV, they didn't have phones, it wasn't like that. It was, yeah, watch TV, um, you know, to make it easier, which I guess to a degree I still I still did after I stopped drinking if it gave me a break, which is fine. I know, you know, parenting's hard, do what you need to. But I think there was um probably a fair bit of, yeah, watch what you want, or um see if you know, so-and-so's free. But we didn't, yeah, I don't think my days were any different. And I I did have friends at that time whose kids were the same age, but we didn't kind of do day drinking. So there were probably a couple of night barbecues, but yeah, I think it was just it was much of the same, and I think that was part of my cycle that I got lonely from, just being in this cycle of getting to five o'clock or whatever, maybe in the holidays slightly earlier, um, and just waiting to drink to get rid of the hangover. Yeah, it was just an isolating cycle that began, you know, say two years before, so six years ago or something. And you'd get up and do what you had to, functioning, but it was all about getting to that time where you could just have a drink and get rid of that hangover.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, 100%. And I mean, mine on the school holidays, it was a lot of I mean, day drinking, but yeah, probably three o'clock. Um, you know, that was always, I don't know, maybe that was when we're I was younger parent and play school because we didn't have, you know, such a you know, prolific internet and um iPads and stuff, but yeah, we had a we were on a farm and three o'clock, mate, fucking play school and then hit the bloody get the fridge and get the bourbon and get the bloody bong, and off I went until the husband got home. I was like, mate, can you go take the kid while I go and I don't know, fuck it's it can be so isolating parenting. Yeah, totally even as a as a couple, you know, and then once you break off, then it becomes like, oh geez. So I guess I relied on yeah, the other parents, I guess, to help with parenting or having my daughter because yeah, I didn't have that luxury of leaving him at home while I could go to work or whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Well, I think when I was with my husband, I don't think he ever very, very few times from memory took school holidays off. So it was all me anyway. And back then I didn't drink as much, so like I just I had a lot of nights off and that was fine. If I was gonna have a big night, I the kids either went to the grandparents or it was a weekend and that was fine. But um, yeah, it was I think because I had to step up. But the thing I've noticed now is like I often think about there is no way I could have continued drinking anyway, just because of the hours I'm out with my bloody kids. Like last night I was driving around to get my son at quarter to 11 because he was just stalling coming home. He was not doing anything wrong, but it's like I can't go to bed until they're home. Yeah, so um, sometimes I'll drive my daughter somewhere. Uh, she usually gives me a bit of money to drive up, but it might be 7 or 8 p.m. I couldn't have done anything. I couldn't I could not have parented this age group, 16 and up, um, drinking or even 14 and up. Like, it's been a blessing for so many things, but particularly like I'll just be doing stuff going, I couldn't have done this.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I know kids can make their own way places, but you know, my son was beat up earlier this year by a random strange uh in his 40s at 9 p.m. at night. I don't want my kids roaming around at that time, so sometimes I go get them, but couldn't have done it.

SPEAKER_01:

And how awesome exactly. So there's a reason that I mean I was the same. Like my daughter was 14 and I was like putting her in fucking Ubers because I was pissed and stoned, Gana, you know, this is my night or this is my time, but basically I couldn't drive.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

And you know, dropped the ball, and how cool is that that you know, we did see the light and kick it to the curb in such a um, because yeah, you're right, we couldn't have, especially singly, couldn't have uh well I wasn't doing the right thing and right job, and then now it's like um yeah, what a what a win and what a good reason to honour the fact that we don't drink and you know, fuck you alcohol, basically.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'm so grateful I stopped when I did. I just don't know how I would have done it. I mean, I'm sure we all like I don't know how I did it when I was drinking. I d I truly don't know. I I don't know, but we tend to hold it together and um you know the term functioning alcoholic, which I don't agree with the term alcoholic, but um certainly function there are many people functioning with I had zero energy, I had zero anything to pull on in my body because I was dehydrated, I was drained.

SPEAKER_01:

Like, how did I was so angry and so I was angry and resentful and I was just turning into a bitch, and I'm thinking, you know, that's not me. That's um and that's actually one of the things I'll probably say in my speech is that like just relationships in general um have improved. Like this is the thing about sobriety um that I love is because now I'm uh yeah, like it's life's hard with or without alcohol. And you know, I used to just think it was my friend, and I just relied on it. I just thought, you know, it revolved around, it did revolve around all my decision making, good or bad. But yeah, and so with like I even just sort of mum in her birthday cards, you know, I said to her, like, like I'm just so glad I've got to know her in my in her later years because we weren't that close because I was just a salty teenager and just kept that running through our relationship. And when I sort of strip it all back and stop being the victim of circumstance, I actually went, you know, you did your best you could, but now let's move forward. And I'm not angry, I'm not salty, I'm not resentful, I'm not in that head space of you know, not being able to use my voice. But now I've actually, you know, doing the work as we all talk about, but actually thinking, oh, yeah, giving some compassion, not just for me, but also to my parents. It just gives peace to things that were fractured and the blaming. God, I was such a blame shifter, and you know, but really Meg, it's because I was always hung over.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, oh yeah. I mean shitty and tight and yeah, fucking resentful. Yeah, it makes you all those things like totally. I was yeah, resentful and just not happy, I guess. You know, that's what we're using alcohol for. And and it just is a depressant, it causes anxiety. So on top of everything, insomnia.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh we never just joined the dot. I never joined the dots, like you know. I always think, oh, if I stop smoking cigarettes, then that'll help me stop, you know, drop this the drinking. But it was actually the other way around was you know, that knowing inside that uh actually maybe look at your alcohol, but it'd be like then the other critic in your head be, oh don't do that, Ali. What do you want to do that for? You won't you'll be lonely, you won't have any friends, you won't be able to have sex, well, you won't be able to get well done, fill in the blanks. Exactly. You take it off. Yeah, it's like fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I'm easy up. Totally, and I I knew I knew from my first drink that it was not doing good things. I knew it. And I knew um just just the whole time, and maybe because I'd seen it in someone in my family, I was hyper aware to that, but I did everything I could to not have to stop the alcohol. So, okay, I'll try a raw foods diet, or I'll go to a kidney cleansing diet. I will try every single diet there is to detox, I will go to retreats, you know, really good health retreats. I will do everything but give up alcohol, and I know that a lot of people do that. In fact, before people stop drinking, they've tried everything usually. Because I didn't want to moderating, yeah, everything. I didn't want to let go of it, so I knew but along with knowing how bad it was, I also knew that one day I'd stop. Like I think subconsciously I've always known. But I pushed that away too, because I thought, not today though, and then it had kind of allowed me to go, yeah, I'll drink through COVID because one day I'll stop. Um, and I have a feeling I stopped for half of COVID. I don't even remember now. But um, but it was always in my mind one day, and I always knew everything I did. It's I just had to give up the alcohol. Yeah. So finally doing it, it's um it's like, yes, I actually did it. It it I didn't think I would, as you know, you've said as well. It was like, how the freak can we give up something like that? But oh my gosh, so much better. And and you know what? We don't have forever, and a massive, massive part of me giving up was to live life instead of numbing it. Because when we numb the bad, we numb the good. Yeah, we're numbing everything and we're numbing numbing relationships, we're numbing um memories, good times, the present. And I thought, no, actually, and I guess it was more in my face because parents are aging and you know, little ones are growing up, and it's like, uh no, now I don't have forever left. Yeah, you know, so it's and being able to appreciate people and you know, like you said, have have that relationship with your mom that you know, I don't want to go through the rest of my life and not have those things, it's not worth it. Drinking is not worth it, and if people are worried about giving up, what's you know, I would prefer never have another drink and deal with that than to not have time with my family or friends or do things that I'm passionate about. Just be authentic, yeah. Just I don't know, like it's be who we are instead of numbing every bloody thing out. Yeah, it's so wasted time.

SPEAKER_01:

It is wasted like even just like you know, I guess we're talking about school holidays, although we've digressed as we do as we do, but I was just thinking, you know, like those school holidays, uh how much better and more energetic I would have been than uh you know, we all know that we when we go away on a holiday, even overseas, or just camping and stuff, mate. You feel like shit for at least another week because, well, I don't know. Well, our camping trips were just loaded with fucking vodka.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, yeah. We did camping trips as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh mate, and then barley, you'd just go over there, the first, you know, that airport. And I never used to want to drink before I got on a plane because I always wanted to have a cigarette. So I could I used to like I'd always do it because the people please, oh sure, everyone's having a bloody shampoo's before we get on an airplane, and then you get there and you'd land, and then you'd be sort of half hung a little bit hung over, a bit dusty, just yeah, oh, and then you'd back it up with okay, let's go to the bar or let's drink duty free. And it just didn't stop until you got home. And then you get home, you look in the mirror and you're like, fuck.

SPEAKER_00:

I need a holiday.

SPEAKER_01:

I need a holiday. It was a holiday, and you're thinking, Oh I know.

SPEAKER_00:

It was always always my answer was I need a holiday. And it and I used to say, Oh, kids on holiday, you need a holiday, but actually it's because I was drinking. You depleted, you depleted like holidays now, you can enjoy the whole full day. And who would want to waste like, okay, me. Why would I want to waste money drinking and sleeping through an amazing holiday when now I can wake up and and like I mean, it could be camping down the road, or it could we went to America, those things where I want to enjoy, and I did not drink much at all then, and that was the first taste I had of actually packing things in and experiencing another city and country and things like that. I could I I just looked back at how much I'd wasted all those opportunities, and it does, and there's no regret, that's where I was, but going forward, gosh, there's value in spending a whole day somewhere and enjoying it and I know taking in uh getting the most out of it. Yeah, it's it's so different, and it's so much better.

SPEAKER_01:

What I wanted to talk about, and we wanted to talk about today's thing, school holidays, and how you know, obviously, I don't have a school-aged child anymore, but um coming down here, you know, everybody comes to the south, and I went past the caravan park, and you know, I guess it just gave me a few rem reminiscences of you know how my drinking holidays and school holidays and travelling and stuff like that. But now it would be um, you know, I'm driving up to Perth on the school holidays. Not as I said, doesn't matter at school holidays, but yeah, just um, you know, gonna enjoy mum's birthday celebrations and my family present, clear, and organized.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, amazing. And and what a special get-together for your mum's 90th. I know, and to be able to, you're gonna remember it and it just it just makes it so much.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, not being like I'm actually staying with her in the retirement village. Oh I love it. You might make some new friends there. In the Rose room, yes. Well, it's an over 55. So mum gets so paranoid whenever I say to her, like, I really want to go because they've got all the facilities. I'm like, Mum, give us your swipe card. And she gets so fucked, she gets so stressed and stuff. And then I was I the last time, which was a few months ago, I went up there and I was on the um before I had to swim. In fact, I don't think I had to swim because I didn't bring my baters, but I went up, I just thought I'd go on the um what's it called? The cross trainer. Yeah. Oh my god, so I'll get in there and I'm on there and um and then you know, dip, hear this guy walk in, and I'm like, oh fuck. And mum's in my head, you know, darling, darling, you know. And anyway, so the guy and I, you know, g'day, g'day. And so I basically ran out the door and and drove walked back to mum's, but then I was walking back to mum thinking, hang on, I'm actually 55. I should have gone back in there and go, yeah, mate, I've just moved into unit 177 and uh my name's Dally. How was he? Was he 56 and hot? I mean, you know, Janadi, mate, but um yeah, so yeah, I might meet some people, but maybe that the other thing is they could have grandsons.

SPEAKER_00:

Ah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

There I might, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

This is being yes, yes, oh that's so funny. I love that.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like get in the pool in my bikini. I'm just literally just so paranoid. I'm like, Mum, you know, what's she paranoid about that someone will crack onto you? No, for an eight. No, it's that she'll get we're not the family and friends are not allowed to use the facilities. Oh, you'll get caught. You'll get caught. I'll get caught being naughty. I'm like, Mum, freaking you pay enough to live here. You don't use it, so let somebody else do it. That's the side. Basically, I'm Margaret Mitchell. Yes, you don't use it if she doesn't use it. Yeah, she doesn't use it, not anymore. But you know, take that swipe card, baby. And I sort of go between like I wouldn't do uh even though I love exercising early morning, but that's when they're all in there. So I'm going, I'm going at nana time. It's two o'clock in the afternoon, mate. Shoot a can and you wouldn't hit anything. Oh, I'm like, because everyone's having their freaking yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's so funny. I love it.

SPEAKER_01:

So I'm taking me, um, I'm taking me togs because I'm gonna, it's actually gonna be cold, so I'm not gonna spray tan for the event, which will mean that I can get in the pill. Yes, that way send my tan because it's gonna be freaking cold. So wardrobe change um coming up, which is also what I'm gonna do today, as well as write my speech.

SPEAKER_00:

Yay! Well, good luck with your speech. I was gonna say before we go, um, the difference, like, because we I did used to camp as well, but I went camping with my brother in the Christmas holidays. Just look, it was just for a night because it was so close with both our sons. And oh my gosh, like you could not go away camping for one night as a drinker because you'd just be out of it. But it felt like such a nice break. Two days and one night was all we could fit in at the time, and it was such a nice experience. We cooked, we went on bushwalks, we went on the old zigzag railway in the blue mountains. We actually fit a lot in, and that was reminiscent of our childhood, and it was really amazing how much we could fit in, come back refreshed, rather. I mean, there's no way I'd go away for one night as a drinker. It'd have to be two or three to let the hangover subside. You know, I've been on quite a few just family, like in the school uh Christmas holidays, we'll go away as a family, and thankfully no one's a drinker, but um, just really nice experience. Go to bed early, read a book, watch a movie together. It doesn't matter. Play cards, yeah, have a decently early night, and get up and enjoy the day. Go to the beach, go to the markets, like cook together. It's um it is such a good experience. So for anyone listening that thinks it'll be boring, you can make like you you don't have to be bored, and it's creating memories, even if you just feel like these school holidays, I'm doing a bit of study, I'm walking every day, so I'm going for a walk. I do that by myself, but it's really beautiful to get out, look at oh, the flowers in spring. I oh yes, so beautiful, and just to fit in some things that I went for a massage, you know, you can make your fun, but things that I couldn't have a massage when I was hungover, it made me want to be sick.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly. Gosh, it's probably sweating buckets, yes, gone off, yeah. And I probably would have gone there after eating a bowl full of Chinese and then just wanted to fart and just run the hell out of there. I've already been for my walk looking at the orchids, yes, but because of the grand final, so I did a TikTok because I worked to the grand final right that was a massive I mean, hello. What is the grand final? Oh, sorry, AFL.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so for anyone not in Australia, first of all, that's football, but also I don't follow so you guys go rugby, right? You're more no no, I I do nothing. So literally I'm useless in this conversation. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Our team was playing, and I so like any good drinker, we would, you know, Melbourne Cup's coming up again. Well, you know, that's a horse race that stops the nation in Australia. But so does the grand final, whether your team's in or not.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_01:

I my neighbour across the way, he had his um mates over, and I I just you know, it was driving past because um it wasn't yeah, well, anyway, we live on Acreage, but I could see he had a uh group of mates there, and you know, and then the next morning it's like there was just empty chairs with the fire going, and I'm like, oh my god, I remember that. They literally day drank the whole day into fuck knows what time because I was in bed, but then the next day, because it's Sunday I'm working, I'm like the they're just you know what all that just oh just it's so boring and time wasting. It's not boring if you think that that's what you want to do, hang out with your mates and drink. What's boring is the next day feeling like shit, having to pack it all up, and then you know, I saw him yesterday and he said, Oh yeah, we do it every year, and I'm like, Yeah, right. Um I don't know, but that was my TikTok because Meg, that was me. All that whole day of getting ready, even if my team wasn't in, didn't give a shit. Any excuse to party out and have a day drinking session was you know, um yeah, so that was and then the next day it would be like, oh Christ.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and let me ask, okay, like not you, just a rhetorical. Um, if things are so fun, like the grand final, like the Melbourne Cup, like Christmas Day, if they're so fun, then why do we need alcohol? Because could it be that we're boring? I mean, you know, or we have to make it.

SPEAKER_01:

We have to drink with those friends, yeah. Well, or because of our friends, they were our friends that we drank with.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but but these are entertainment things. You're gonna be entertained anyway. So it's an interesting that you know, people might think it's gonna be boring. Well, have a look at what you drink at and why. Like uh some things, maybe, yes, it's just traditionally what you do, but some things you might actually have to drink to get through it. Well, maybe it's just bloody boring. Yeah, you know, it's yeah, it's a bit um of a word uh word that boring because I think we can definitely on the other side of alcohol fill ourselves and our lives with amazing things, but also acknowledge that every second's not going to be fun and joyful, it's just not. That's life.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and culturally that's what you do. You drink and you go around, yeah. It was like, come on, the grand grand final. And like, I guess people that we drank with for those events were our friends that we that's all we had in common with. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, that's another thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Because Kim really highlighted that in her last episode. If anyone tunes in to what she said and what you said was, you know, you'd meet that new friend purely because they could drink more or as much as you. I thought, bam, that's gold. And that's exactly what I surrounded myself with is those people that I watched sports with or just bass you got on the piss with.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, that's all we had in common.

SPEAKER_00:

Boom! Boom! And it's it's so true. And we're gonna do we we should do that next because it um, as I said, I recognized that anyone that was up to my level of drinking, I'd go, I've made a new best friend. And it was all alcohol. Yeah, yeah, wow, and it's crazy. Yeah, well, we'll do that next time. It's been so good to chat.

SPEAKER_01:

Log on, people, and um, yeah, great to see you. Happy holidays.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you. You too. Have a wonderful weekend with your mom. Celebrating Margaret.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'll let you yes, celebrate Margaret, 90 years old. 90, the old gray mare, beautiful, as she calls herself. All right, till next time, till next time.