What If Boredom Is Your Breakthrough?

“Am I boring now that I don’t drink?” That one thought can undo a whole week of feeling proud, especially when you’re six months alcohol-free and the party invites keep rolling in. We read a listener message from Mel and get honest about the weird social edge of early sobriety: the stigma, the self-judgment, and the fear that you’ll be less fun without a drink in your hand. 

We talk about what actually changed for us when we quit drinking and why alcohol often just numbs boredom instead of creating real connection. We share the practical stuff that makes social events easier, like choosing gatherings you genuinely enjoy, focusing on people and activities instead of the bar, and giving yourself permission to leave once everyone starts getting sloppy. We also swap real-life examples of sober fun, from trivia nights and pickleball to markets, brunch, and a surprising confidence boost through karaoke. 

Then we go deeper into the mindset work that makes sobriety stick. We unpack the beliefs that keep people stuck, what “dry drunk” white-knuckling looks like, and how reframing boredom can open the door to creativity, purpose, and calmer nervous system regulation. We also name the hidden costs of alcohol that get normalized, like low mood, broken sleep, and losing whole weekends to hangovers. 

If you’re sober curious, newly sober, or wondering how to socialize without alcohol, this one will steady you. Subscribe, share it with a friend who needs the reminder, and please leave a review so more people can find us.

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Transcript

A Listener Question About Boredom

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Megsy! Hey Ellie! How are you going?

SPEAKER_01 0:45

I'm great as always. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:47

I'm good. I'm good. I'm happy to be here. We've got a we've got a special one today.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

We do. We've had a um someone write in and ask us a question. So exactly. Keep them coming. We really do appreciate it. And we'll get around to, you know, I always respond to messages on Instagram and whatnot. So um shall I shall I start, Meg? Shall I read it out?

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Read out the letter we got sent. Yeah, do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

This one comes from Mel. Okay. So she says, Hi Mel. Hi, Allie and Meg. I've been alcohol free for six months and honestly, I love my life now. Woo-hoo! Yay! I don't miss the hangovers, the anxiety, or the regrets. But every time I'm invited to a party or a social event, I still get this little voice in my head asking, Am I boring now that I don't drink? I worry that people don't think I'm fun anymore. Does that feeling ever go away?

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Oh, good question, Mel. And something that I hear often, like, you know, even people say, I'm boring because I don't drink, or I'm worried about giving up drinking because I'll be boring. So it's it's not uncommon, that's for sure. Um, so we can, I guess, talk about our experiences. Do you want me to go first? Yeah, for sure. All right. So definitely, like I said, there is that stigma there. And it part of that's, you know, what society tells us. Like drinking is a part of every occasion. And we've been brought up to believe that. And then we get comments like, I don't trust someone that doesn't drink, you know, once we've all said or it's been said to us. And and, you know, so it's kind of understandable that we can start to worry

Why Society Equates Drinking With Fun

SPEAKER_00 2:46

that, well, if I'm the only one not drinking, I'm gonna look boring or or things will be boring. Now, on that, certainly there are things that are boring to me now I don't drink because they were boring before when I did drink. I just drank to numb out the boredom. So, you know, if I went to say a sports game that I wasn't into that I would have been bored at, I just drank. It didn't make me less boring, it just blanked out the the boredom. So, you know, there's that aspect. There's also the flip side, we go to weddings or parties or social events, and it it feels like drinking is the fun part. But part of what I worked through after I gave up drinking was looking at these beliefs. And when I looked at how much fun it actually was drinking, it was really short-lived. The fun for me was probably in the initial high that we get. And then, if I'm totally honest, if you took away the alcohol, the fun was probably with at the event or with the people, it wasn't the alcohol. So, since stopping drinking four and a half years ago, I do things that I enjoy. Yeah, and if I go to say mostly what I do is in the day because I enjoy days more than nights, but if I go to something at night and you know, I will so a party, for example. I went to my friend's party recently, and I had heaps of fun because I spoke to people I wanted to, the music was good, there was good company, good food, and then I left when everyone started to get pissed. So I had fun in the time I was there, but then another time something came up, and some friends were going out, sort of dancing, and that that's not fun to me. So I didn't go. But I certainly have a lot of fun without drinking, and I think what one of the biggest things for me was before I stopped drinking, I couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine having fun because alcohol numbed everything. So if someone said to me, you know, go and do breath work on the beach or have a you know do the ice bar thing, I would have said, F off. That sounds hideous because I just wanted alcohol. Once I stopped drinking, the joy came back. It came back in the moments, and I really have tried a whole lot of different things to see what I like, and there is so much joy. Like I play pickleball now, I I do some breathwork classes. The ice bar thing didn't last long for me, but that's fine. I tried it. Um, I like going to markets, I love going to brunch. I, you know, if someone has a a trivia night that I'm invited to, love it. Like there are heaps and heaps of things I find joy in now. So what about you, Allie?

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Well, I'm saying nodding and nodding, saying, Yes, yes, yes, and God, Megsy, I did karaoke. Oh, this is twice now. I've done karaoke, and obviously twice that I haven't drank. And I just, you know, that to me, even drinking, like people would mention karaoke, and I was just even drinking and being drunk, I wouldn't put myself out there that much. Um, so I never did it. Um, so then, you know, fast forward five years sober, I have grabbed the microphone, even though I said to the first um, you know, let's go do karaoke. It was at a friend's house or a friend of a friend, so I didn't even know the host. And then I was kind of like I literally said to the my other friend that was taking me, oh, I'll just sit back and watch. And mate, within freaking, you know, halfway through the first, some were like, Give me the microphone, and fucking didn't stop. And my voice was hoarse by the end of the night. And I mean, look, everyone, everyone else was drinking. That doesn't, it doesn't, you know, you can do those things. And then I ended up driving everyone home. And then fast forward, like that that lady made a connection to a home where I live, and I've was invited to this other lady, and again, I was a bit, I don't know, you know, yeah, I was a bit like because I'd never met her, and then you know, again, it was like, what song should we sing? And singing with people, it's not like you have to stand there on stage, you know, you that would just terrify me. When you're in someone's lounge room and you're all singing, then you don't need fucking alcohol to connect. So there's that myth bust. So yeah, you're not boring. I wasn't boring.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

I have to jump in there because karaoke was my favorite drinking pastime, and it is also now my favorite non-drinking. It is, I am so glad you've discovered it. One day we're gonna karaoke together. It's my favorite bloody, and I can do it by myself now, so work your way up. But it's amazing.

Finding Real Joy Without Alcohol

SPEAKER_01 7:52

And I was even thinking last night, like, oh, maybe I'll listen to something on YouTube and use the microphone that I'm using to podcast. Yeah. And just, you know, fucking Mariah carry it your heart out, basically. Awesome. I so that's you know, I don't I think that was on topic, but it I mean, I wasn't scared of being boring. I was scared of, you know, learning to know myself without alcohol. So I think, you know, you're in that six months. Um, you know, I guess that's the the first six months, I think sort of I reckon was a bit easy. Not easy, it's not, I don't know, but yeah, certainly um there's friendships that will, you know, you're not gonna be, let's face it, you're not gonna be invited around to those houses where you sat around and drank. I mean, you may do at the start, but you, Mel, will find it that you will actually go, that's fucking boring. Watching people sit around drinking their wine, talking, gossiping and being negative, right? That's boring. And then, you know, if you suggest, oh, let's go here as a drinker, we'd all just be, uh nah, bugger that, or can you drink? So, my other thing would be like try to go to shows or events where like a quiz night, like pickleball, like karaoke, like even going to play a game of pool. I love doing that. Um, do something with your hands and then or go bowling with your kid. Like, there's so, so much. And honestly, people don't, it's our own judgment of us judging ourselves that we're not drinking. So lose that mindset because no one, as you'll discover, no one cares if you're drinking or not drinking, and it's usually if it's the people that are going, Oh, come on, just have one. Well, they're fair weather friends anyway. And what is the point of having one? Let's face it.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Oh my god, no point. But there's not no, you're right though, like all those things you said, they're entertaining. That's entertainment. Entertainment doesn't need drinking with it, and you were, and that was a great, like I said as well, like going to something that has a thing like trivia or whatever, it connects you because you're doing something, or pickleball, or karaoke. And that's when I realized that back in my drinking days, it was still those things I enjoyed. Like, if you were sitting around bitching and moaning and all that with drinking, was that really fun?

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Um, it was that's pretty boring when you think about it. We needed something to make us talk like that. Like, that's awful. Um, but also if Mel, for example, is shy, because you and I obviously not shy. Um, I did, you know, it doesn't mean we don't have anxiety around social things, but it I did work with a client who who had a belief that he he needed to drink to socialise because without the drink, he discovered that he'd had this belief all along that he was brought up to be seen and not heard, and he didn't think what he had to say was valuable. So when we worked through that, he then started practicing not drinking in social situations, and he's like, This is a whole new world. It took steps, like baby steps, but he got there, so that can also be something to look at. And you and I always say there's work involved with this, but it's freeing, exactly, because you don't want to be a you know, the dry drunk.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Like, you know, people talk about that, and you know, if if you're I think you're if

Karaoke Confidence In Sobriety

SPEAKER_01 11:36

you I think you can become a dry drunk when you haven't, if you've just stopped alcohol and you're still romanticising it and you're still thinking, oh, I'm boring without it, or nobody's gonna call me, or I can't do that wedding without alcohol, or well, it it just all these things that I thought about, Meg. I mean, I fucking kept drinking for 40 years, like because I just had that belief that I couldn't do life without alcohol. Yeah, and I don't know, it just got to that, like Veronica Valley said, it got to that desperation, and it was like actually enough's enough. Um, let's try something different, the yeah, and take alcohol away. And guess what? You and I met on a on a retreat, a sober holiday, which was the first in my life. I mean, love, love, loved it, and just baby steps, but just every time you're you know, you've got six months, Mel. So, you know, I think you're probably getting to that crossroads of like, oh yeah, you know, maybe I can moderate, or maybe no, just keep your goals, keep pursuing what you like or what you liked when you're doing a kid. I don't know how old you are, but go back to the basics and really just journal it, you know. Is it really the alcohol that was making me fun? Or you know, challenge that challenge that thought. And really, you'll you will lose friends. It's not gonna sugarcoat that, you will, but the right ones will stay, and then the you'll meet all the new new cool ones like us, the trailblazers.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Woo-hoo, woo-hoo. And when you say dry drunk, that's like white knuckling, isn't it? Like it it really is important. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Sorry, yes, it's it's you're taking the alcohol away because generally, because you had to, either your your partner said it or your kid said, you know, if you don't stop drinking, I'm fucking we're done. So you go, okay, cool, I'm gonna stop. And then they don't freaking do anything about it, they're just holding their breath for the next however long. I mean, it was the same as smoking. I've I was hypnotized probably through or maybe two times from memory. Really, honestly, deep down, I didn't want to give it away. So it didn't work. And again, if someone's told you to give up drinking or quit drinking, well, it's not coming from you and your own higher self going, This is shit. Your life could, you know, we know your life could be a lot better, and let's give it a go and champion yourself. If somebody's telling you you have to because of whatever reason, yeah, that could be a good catalyst, but if you don't do the work afterwards, then you're just a miserable fuck, basically. Sorry for the language, mum.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Yeah, and like so. When I uh stopped drinking, I had to work on things like I'm too much, because that was a belief I carried. So without the alcohol, I didn't feel secure in who I was in a group. Whereas with the alcohol, oh my god, I was too much to the max, but the alcohol kind of numbed me to it, it didn't matter. But um, but I had to work through beliefs as we all do about ourselves, um, to make it lasting. And so I don't need alcohol for anything anymore. I had a friend as well recently say, it was maybe it was a year or two ago, and we were out, well, we were doing something, and people were drinking, and I wasn't. And and she turned to me and she went, Oh my god, you're still fun. And I loved that because it sums it all up, isn't it? It's like I haven't changed that much. I'm more authentic and I believe in myself more. But who I am, you know, I'm not gonna give up alcohol and and have a shit life.

Friendships Change And That Is Okay

SPEAKER_00 15:36

It's that's not what I gave up alcohol to have to live my life, and I'm gonna look for the fun. And if I do something and don't find any fun in it, I probably won't do it again. But get out there and try different things and um and work on it. And like I'm a coach, so I coach people on how to work through things. You've we you and I have both done work on why we drank, and it's just so important. That's why we're doing this.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And also, I think on about I was about eight months, I merely said eight months pregnant. Oh my god. Yeah, well, 21 years ago. Um shit. Yeah, I was about eight months sober, and I that's when I heard Danny Carr on the radio, you know, little things like synchronic synchronicities. Um, so Mel, you know, you never know, maybe just do a course of like um just to really solidify that um working on whatever and just learning about why you were drinking and how you were drinking, and is drinking really what are you missing out on? No, it's there's no FOMO for us anymore. But that's pretty much the time when I found Danny Carr and I did her her course, and I absolutely loved it, and then you're sort of learning about you know, I mean, I lived in fight or flight for since I was a teenager, and you're no wonder why I used alcohol, right? And so when you kind of again, when you stop, your nervous system, everything's not inflamed anymore, so you're not just so angry all the time, like you know, you're actually karma, more present, your kids love you more, your parents, you know, it just everything relationship-wise is enough to even if you think that you're boring, you're not, and that's just your own head, and alcohol probably saying, Oh, you're boring, come back to the other side. Just go, no, alcohol, fuck off, and I, you know, just gonna continue on my own journey. Don't worry about people, don't care, you know. People don't care really, it's just us worried, I guess, when you get to that point where you're like, Oh, and also, you know, we're in the depths of winter, so it's a good time to dig down and and do the work and do some journaling or do a course um and get ready for summer because in summer you're gonna be in that keeny going on a holiday.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

Well, maybe I won't be.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

I don't know, I'm just dribbling, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

Um I also discovered I don't really like swimming. And so Oh, really? No, no. I mean, I'll go to the beach and dive in, but that's all I need to do. But I I yeah, it's not I love walking on the beach and I love a quick dip, but that was the other thing, and I actually don't like bloody dancing. Like these are things I've I've learned about myself, um, which I would do pissed, but I still didn't really like it. And and the other thing is hangovers are damn boring, so yeah, you might think you're not boring by going out and getting crazy, but how much of your weekend is spent recovering? Like, I was boring, you know. It it there's so much more to life, and even things like I've been speaking to a few clients, and two of them actually were telling me they've reconnected to one of them makes hangers for pot plants, like out of material, and another was doing some art, and they're both going to sell it at markets. And I'm like, that is so cool. And there was this guy on Instagram a while ago, and he was talking about just this. He was saying, you know, there's

Beliefs That Keep You Drinking

SPEAKER_00 19:27

this belief around giving up alcohol that you're boring. And he goes, but being bored is when the creativity comes through, it's when the the magic happens because you can really start to look at what am I here, what am I here to do? Find some purpose and passion. That's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Well, I mean, I used to say to my my daughter, you know, the the B word, which was I'm bored, it was a dirty word, you know, because you tell your kids this, you know, don't be bored, go out, jump on the trampoline, or go ride your bike, or ring a friend. Well, hello, that's all the shit you can say to yourself. Um, you're bored. Well, what are you bored from? So, and that's the beauty. If you're bored, well, then you can actually drive, because if I was bored, I'd just crack a cone and have a drink, and then you're not bored, or you just ring a friend and get smashed over the phone, right? So if you're feeling a bit twitchy or bored in air quotes, go for a fucking drive, or you know, learn something, or I don't know, just yep, just reframe it.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

You know, there's there's heaps of stuff out there that's really easy to access. Like you can do a free online course about anything. Yeah, um, you know, you can pick up a book and just start reading it. Like yes, it doesn't matter. Cook something, pick out a new recipe, you know, go for some weights out. Pull some weights out. But once you start doing something, you get more into it. Um, yeah, you know, it's about making the start often, like Mel Robin's five-second rule, count down from five and just do the thing. Do it if you're bored, clean out a cupboard. You feel much better after it. I can tell you that. It's decluttering in your head as well as decluttering. But there are things, there are things that you can do. It's um a signal to, yeah, get creative and um come up with something, you know. Do something, do something.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Yeah, because in her letter, I'm just rereading it, it's like, you know, just work on the facts that I don't miss hangovers. Well, that's one bloody, you know, tick to you're not boring. And you know, you you don't have the anxiety or the regret. And so that just focus on, you know, does that feeling ever go away? It 100% it bloody does, you know. You're really just at the start of this uh journey, um, and you've already in six months realized that you you miss you don't miss the hangovers, which I mean you don't miss drinking, and um you know, all of that or whatever comes with alcohol, um, strip it back because it's really just hangovers and wasting your life is fucking boring. It's boring. Again, like yeah, I we've met so many. I mean, I was on bloody TV. I have my own podcast, like I live in my own home. Like, in five years, if you're far out, man, I'm not in a you know, fucking shitty, horrible marriage. Um, I'm an absolute we're swimming upstream and we're so proud that we can say, you know what, I'm sober, I'm a badass, you know, because we're not doing The same shit, and we're not out in the clubs and pretending, you know, like I'm not vaping, I'm not hanging off my 21-year-old going, babe, let's go out into the club and find your mama root. Like, literally, that's what I would have been doing. Is that boring or what? Yes, and it's inappropriate, which what alcohol does, it makes you do stupid shit, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:05

Yep, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Just yeah, no, you're not boring. Boring is yeah, fucking repeating yourself and being a trash bag.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Yeah, it's it's an opportunity to look at well, what can I do? What start with a list of what you used to like before you ever drank. And I did that, and one of the things I wrote was tennis. I went back and had tennis lessons, this is a couple of years ago, and it was really great, but um I could only do it at night, and there was an issue with the lights and my migraines, so I have aged. But now I'm doing pickleball, you know. That came from looking at what I used to like, and then just trying new things. Step out of your comfort zone. You're always gonna feel good if you step out of your comfort zone. You will feel good after it. It's um proud, feel proud and get that dopamine hit. It might not come till the end, but believe me, there's a lot of dopamine hits on this side.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Oh, totally. Just even just waking up in the morning without a hangover, that's one big dopamine hit. Oh my god. Where you can go, um, you can just do your gratitudes. Lying in bed, first thing is I woke up without a hangover. Boom! Get on with your day, done. I I'm just it's so freeing, isn't it, Meg? Not to

Boredom As A Door To Creativity

SPEAKER_01 24:21

have that, oh, am I gonna drink today? Aren't I gonna drink today? Will I drink tonight? Won't I drink tonight? Oh my god, I've got this, you know, because we're you know, people that it think, you know, we had dry July earlier, and it's like so many people on the internet, they're all just like oh fucking dry July, like it's still a thing, and it's like alcohol is still so loved and adored and you know, in certain circles, um, that you just think, nah, you guys are actually in the wrong, yeah, come to the other side because basically numbing your life and living hangover uh hangover to hangover is fucking boring.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

It's boring, and the other thing is to remember joy, happiness, all of that, it's not a full-time state. It never was and it never will be because nothing is. So don't expect rearrange your expectations to it's not going to be all pink clouds and roses when you give up alcohol. You will feel feelings again, but the feelings of joy in that to me are more powerful, more awesome, and just so much more worth it.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

So yeah, like that thing that we say, choose your heart, you know, like yeah, definitely, and it's not a race, so just quietly decline things if you do feel like you don't want to go dancing, or you know, you you can see those certain friends that would end up you would be end up dancing on a in a nightclub, you know, for a brunch, like that would never end at fucking two o'clock. I'd be it'd end at two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, because I'd just keep going, mate. Like so, yeah, obviously just you know be discerning and go. Actually, does do I really does this bring me joy to hang out with those people and or yeah, go hang out and then you know the beauty is you're an adult, drive home. Just exit left. I'm done. Bye. Thanks, see ya. Have fun, and then you can watch it all unfold on fucking Facebook, mate. It's so funny. You're just looking at the photos going, oh my god, that was me. I mean, I do it doesn't actually say how old Mel Mel, you didn't say age love, but you know, we can kind of hazard a guess, it's probably, you know, I don't know, but between 20 and 20 and 100. Yeah, we can hazard a guess. Exactly. Hazard a guess, perimenopausal or menopausal. Either way, you know, it's not cute.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Perry or post or in the in it or in it. Yes. But you know what else I was gonna say? The irony is here that you know, we worry that we won't be fun anymore when we stop drinking, but alcohol causes depression. So a lot of my drinking years were spent depressed, unhappy, miserable, shameful, guilty, blameful. Far out. How did I possibly think I was fun or having fun when the results were always bad?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Like far out. Yeah, I know. It's pretty sad how you and also the sleep, you know, just all this shit that we thought, oh yeah, I'm gonna drink to pass out. And then, you know, at the three o'clock in the morning, you learn about that, which you know, so no, it's it's might be just a little bit um awkward at this at the start, but you know, six months, man, you're doing so well.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

And hopefully, I'm pretty sure that answered your question. That yeah, you know, you will it'll feel like that, but then eventually, just like anything, like driving a car, you'll just get in the car and you'll get to your destination and be like, oh shit, you know, it's just you know, you've still got your training wheels on, and thank you so much for reaching out because um, you know, that's what we're here for tools and tips and a few laughs. So, I mean, when did you last laugh without Laga Magse?

SPEAKER_00 28:28

Oh my gosh, always I'm always laughing. Oh, I'll tell you, I went to the movies yesterday with my mum, it was a 10:40 a.m. session. I

Mental Health And Sleep After Quitting

SPEAKER_00 28:36

reclined. It was amazing, and it was called The Invite, and it's very funny, it's a funny movie, and I laughed all the way through it. Um, you wouldn't have caught me at the movie. Do you know the last time I was at the movies when I was a drinker was with my kids taking them to shut them up to watch whatever animation was on, and I remember one in particular I felt like throwing up the whole time. It was torture, absolute torture. So it's just nice to be able to go and actually pay attention. We went for Yamcha after, yeah. It was really fun, and I laughed a lot. So, what about you, Allie?

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Oh, yesterday at work. I mean, we just fucking laugh. Yeah, you know, it's I just I just I just love making people laugh, even if it's laughing at myself, you know. I'm I'm not that um, but yeah, definitely. I mean, yeah, definitely I I laughed with my daughter. Again, it's hard to sort of pinpoint because I'm laughing a lot more um now, authentically, and um and even at work. I mean, obviously at work anyway, prior to me drinking, they all said I was funny, but um definitely I can go out and socialise with them and still have uh tears running down our legs because we laugh so much.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Yes, so good.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

It's it's all the time, yeah. All the time.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Yeah, same. Well, I think um we've covered everything, and again, thank you, Mel. But also please, everyone, you know, if you have something you want to ask, please write in. And you can there's show notes where you can contact us. There's a link, so jump on in there. You can contact us on Instagram, you can send DMs. I've got a website, Megan Webb, um, you can dot com dot AU. You can contact us at all these places, so we're easy to find.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

We're easy to find.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

You can Google us and you'll find us. But we'd love to hear from more of you. Um, thank you to those of you who have written in, and yeah, we're always here to answer and um respond. So don't be afraid.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Yeah, because between the two of us, we've either been there or done that.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

There's plenty of experience. Well, almost nearly a what, 90 years? So 40, well, 40 years for me of drinking. And how many years for you?

SPEAKER_00 31:07

30.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

Well, there you go. Yeah, we've got 70 years, and then we've got nearly 70 years under our belt, and then nearly 10 years.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

10 years sobriety, so we've done it.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

We are rocking it, we've done it. And we've been there, done that. Um, you know, if yeah, there's a few hiccups in the road, as I said. Um, but yeah, rate,

Laughing More And How To Reach Us

SPEAKER_01 31:26

review, subscribe, that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

And um till next time, Megsy. Yes, tell your friends about us, and yeah, we'll see you next time. See ya, Allie. See ya, Megsy.