How She Lost 80 Pounds in Midlife | Terry Tateossian on Burnout, Hormones & Self-Sabotage

In this episode of SHE Asked: Tools for Practical Hope, Anna McBride sits down with entrepreneur, coach, and retreat founder Terry Tateossian to talk about what really happens in midlife — and why it can be the most powerful chapter of a woman’s life.

In her mid-40s, while running multiple businesses and raising a family, Terry found herself exhausted, overwhelmed, and struggling with her health. After two emergency room visits and years of burnout, she realized something had to change. Over the next decade, she transformed her life — losing over 80 pounds and rebuilding her health, identity, and mindset from the inside out. 

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But as Terry explains in this conversation, the weight loss was only the surface. The real transformation came from confronting self-sabotage, emotional patterns, and the lifestyle habits that keep many women stuck in midlife.

In this episode, we discuss:

• Why midlife burnout is often a signal for deeper change
• The hidden role of perimenopause and hormones in women’s health
• How self-sabotage patterns develop and how to interrupt them
• Why strength training and muscle matter more after 40
• The real reason many women struggle with weight loss in midlife
• The importance of boundaries, sleep, and environment for long-term health
• How Terry built a new life through her wellness retreats and coaching program, The House of Rose

This conversation is for women who feel overwhelmed, burned out, or disconnected from their bodies — and want to reclaim strength, health, and confidence in the second half of life.

Because midlife isn’t a slow fade.
 It’s a decision point.

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Transcript

Choosing Training Over Drifting

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome back to She Asks, Tools for Practical Hope. I'm your host, Anna McBride, and I am so excited that you're here. Around here, we don't believe midlife is a slow fade. We believe it's a decision point. You either drift or you train. You either manage symptoms or you build strength.

Terry’s Backstory And Burnout Build

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Today's guest embodies that decision. In her mid-40s, while running a business and raising a family, Terry lost over 80 pounds. But what interests me more than the weight loss is the identity shift that made it all possible. Because bodies don't transform without standards changing first. Today we're talking about midlife burnout, perimenopause, hormone, self-sabotage, and what it actually takes to build strength in the second half of your life. Terry, Tatiosian, thank you so much for joining me. I'm so glad you're here.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Thank you, Anna, for having me. It's my absolute pleasure and honor to be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Oh, great. On this podcast, we like to begin with a story. So, Terry, take us back to the season before the transformation. What was happening in your body, your energy, your daily life? And did you know something was off, or did it build slowly over time?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Just share your story. Such a great question. So I grew up in Eastern Europe. I came to the United States at the age of 13. And everything from that point forward in my life throughout college or throughout post-college was all about working, providing, climbing the corporate ladder. And I was often told don't be too ambitious, but be so ambitious enough at the same time that you can still have a family, but don't be too ambitious about that. You can't have it all. And so I was set out to prove everything wrong. Yeah, I can have a family and I can have a successful corporate career, which then ended up transitioning into an entrepreneurship. By the time I was 35, I had five independent businesses and that I started and I founded and rolled over. And yeah, it was busy. It was busy. And I had my daughter at 30. She was 10 pounds, two ounces at birth. And I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes later on in the pregnancy. And then this time my son at 35, this time I was aware that I had gestational diabetes. So I avoided a lot of the things that I ate in my first pregnancy, but I still gained a lot of weight. He ended up being eight pounds. And the weight never came off. And so here I was, 37 years old, still wearing maternity clothes. And two almost three years later, I was still in maternity clothes because I was pretty close to my pregnancy weight still.

ER Panic, Shame, And A Wake-Up Call

SPEAKER_00 3:15

And so I would yo-yo up and down between 210 and 190, 180, right back to 210. And I'll never forget, I kept saying it out loud for at least a year before the ER incidents happened, that I just felt like something was wrong with me. And I didn't know what that was. So I kept saying it to my family. Something's really wrong with me. I don't, I can't explain what. They held me there overnight, gave me a Xanax and said, You had a panic attack, go home and think about your life, basically. And of course, I had employees, I had a family, I had people relying on me. And so I was so embarrassed, so ashamed. Oh my gosh, I had a panic attack. That's so embarrassing, right? I can't tell people I was in ER for two days for a panic attack. They're gonna think I'm crazy, right? They're gonna say, oh, she's lost her mind. She's a Looney Tune. And so I didn't do anything about it. I just kept going in the same pattern that I was at, the same trajectory, figuring, oh, it's a fluke, whatever, one time thing, weird. I glitched, right? I glitched. And so it happened again a couple months later, because that's how the body works. You don't hear it the first time, second time, third time. It's gonna keep happening. And so it happened again. I was convinced they missed it the last time. There's no way this is happening to me again. This is insane, right? And so ran to ER, same thing happened. And now they recognize me. They're like, oh, hi, it's you again. Here's the Xanax, right? And this time I was lucky, one of the nurses said, You need to think about losing some weight. Um, and so that kind of shook me up a little bit, and I started that journey of figuring out how the heck do I

Negotiations With Self And Identity

SPEAKER_00 6:02

lose all this fat? And that's where Pandora's box was opened.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Wow, what a great story! Really speaks to an awareness, some healing, at least that you needed to heal, and then even some actions that you wanted to take, which is really speaks to resilience, I imagine, and a determination. So a few follow-up questions. At what point did you stop negotiating with yourself?

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Oh my, I still do.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Meaning in terms of the excuses or the rationality for what was keeping you where you were.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

It's ongoing. It literally never truly stops. They've just the messages, right? The negotiations have just gotten fewer and not as loud, right? So my consistency muscle, my identity in this particular way of life has gotten stronger through a lot of repetition. So even though I still hear the negotiation, like, oh, you've worked really hard today. Maybe you can just skip this thing here, and this thing here is lifting weights. Or maybe, oh, you had such an emotional day today, Terry. Why don't you have one or two spoons of Nutella? That's gonna be such a nice little reward for you. So they haven't gone away because they're still ruminating. I've just gotten stronger at recognizing them. Number one, I have the awareness that they're there, right? That's not really me wanting that, it's just an old pattern, it's an old program that's running back there.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Okay, that sounds familiar. And what did you demand of yourself that you hadn't demanded before? Is it to listen to yourself, pay attention to those messages, or something else?

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Really, what it required was to go back and recognize the parts of myself that were unhealed, maybe sad, unseen. Of them under the rug, right? Because who has time to deal with this nonsense, right? Just shove it under the rug. It's too embarrassing, right? Or it's too sad, or what's the point? That kind of thing. And when we do that, uh when we stuff things in the closet, essentially, like I or under the rug, or however you want to phrase it, they tend to get louder, they get they tend to get bigger. Yeah, and so I avoided having to deal with a lot of things, and so they took over, essentially. They would wait until I'm vulnerable, tired, cranky, in perimenopause, confused, and they would take over. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Yeah, I hear you. I certainly recognize that pattern from my own history. One last question here. Who did you need to become in order to lose the 80 pounds?

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Who did I? That's a great question. I'm gonna answer it differently, though. Who did I need to unbecome? I had to unbecome this person that somehow was created out of necessity, out of lack of abundance, out of pain, right? And that really wasn't me. I didn't recognize that person. And so I had allowed these things or these events and these kind of environments to define how I was going to live my life when that wasn't me. That really, that's not where I wanted to be. So I had to figure out how to strip that away, how to remove that who I had become. It was just an outfit I was wearing, and I would look in the mirror and say, Oh my gosh, who put that together?

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Yeah, yeah. That's that's what I was describing earlier as drifting. We have a tendency when we're not really paying attention to when we lose ourselves

Standards Over Motivation In Midlife

SPEAKER_01 10:45

in situations or times, I find, and particularly in midlife, right? Where we can get so caught up in the busyness of the day today that we lose motivation. Because I do feel like midlife isn't about motivation, it's about standards. And we can lose sight of them because the standard that became more obvious to you as you were describing looking in the mirror and noticing these details that didn't feel like the true you requires, in my understanding, a different standard. And so I'm curious how the idea of in midlife it's not about motivation, it's about standards resonates with you.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah, absolutely. The standard of not falling victim to the narrative, right? The standard that not everything I believe is true, right? And finding standards out there in the wild, in the world that speak to that narrative rather than the opposite. Because if you go to a doctor, you listen to the media, look around, right, you will see a standard nowadays that has been diminished in terms of let's say a woman over 50 and what the expectation for that is. And find proof, find evidence out there of people that are doing it differently, that have a different standard, surround yourself with those types of people, whether it's on social media, email blasts, in person, go to events, go to conferences, go on retreats, go do things that give you a different perspective rather than what you know is on average out there. And your standard will change.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

I love that. Yes, I do believe in that possibility, right? That we can up l upgrade our standards to ones that that we can find out in the wild, right? You don't have to stick with the way you've always done things. So I really love that perspective. So let's talk about midlife burnout, right?

Burnout Signals You Shouldn’t Ignore

SPEAKER_01 13:01

In your experience, when does burnout stop becoming circumstantial and start becoming a signal that something needs to change internally?

SPEAKER_00 13:11

When does that become obvious? So many signs, right? Let's see. So when your sleep starts getting disrupted, so you're not sleeping well, you are staying up all night because you're stressed, right? Or you're working in my case, or you have anxiety, you have a difficult time getting to bed. So these are all signals when you try to take a day off, you try to get a breather, and you can't. You're addicted to that cortisol feeling of stress all the time. You have to be busy all the time, but you don't know why. Right? You have no idea how to be still, how to be quiet, how to take a day off, and how to just bring the stress down, right? That feels uncomfortable, right? So that's a signal, and these are all I'm speaking from experience. These are all kind of signals where I go, uh-oh, something is rolling in the wrong direction. When another one is when you have no appetite, you have you can go all day without eating anything. You'll have a coffee at 2 p.m., you'll have another coffee at 3 p.m. And then you have a binge at night, right? You'll eat everything in sight when you get home. That's another sign. That is a sign your body is malnourished, your metabolism is not functioning right. If you're not waking up hungry, that's a sign, right? Just little things like that have been made okay by society. Like another one is, oh, I'm addicted to sugar. How many times have we heard that? I have a sweet tooth, I'm a sugar addict. Imagine people ran around saying, I'm addicted to alcohol, hi, or I'm addicted to cocaine. Hi, but it's okay to be addicted to sugar and have that be your main nutrient.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Yeah, making light of it is what you're saying, suggesting that. Yeah, it's there is a societal standard that certain things are more acceptable to be addicted to than others, as opposed to just looking at the addictive pattern as a signal that something is out of alignment.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

And yeah, and that's probably why it's difficult for people in their midlife when we've been entrained by societal information to notice those things because we're moving at such a high fast pace that you have to really slow down, don't you find to listen to those signals?

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Absolutely. Slow down, remove all kinds of things from your life. So it's another question I get often is what can I do? What can I do? What can I add to my day? And you know, my response to that was not it's not about adding things,

Hormones Versus Environment Debate

SPEAKER_00 16:20

it's what can we remove? Okay, that's where the problem is, right? And then the the answer to your last question is addiction, right? So if you're noticing yourself slipping into addiction, and addiction can be a lot of different things, right? Food, sugar, alcohol, drugs, nicotine, behaviors, shopping, all kinds of things like that. When you start noticing that you are overcompensating and coping with your state of being with external substances or external rewards that are negatively impacting your life in some way, it's time to reevaluate because continuing on that trajectory is not going to end up anywhere good.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

You're right about that. Yes. So, how much of midlife depletion is hormonal, do you think? And how much of it is just living misaligned?

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Well, from a non-clinical, non-doctor experience, my opinion from what I have observed is that it's 80% environment and 20% hormonal. Now, when the hormonal shifts come in, and we have been living a life of overwhelm, over stress, overwork, over stimulation, and then you throw in the gasoline or you light the match, right, with the hormonal changes, I think that's when we see a lot of women experience things on a much higher, at a much higher degree of symptoms. Right. So if you've been always on a diet, doing a lot of cardio, overworking, overstimulated, overwhelmed, you're drinking alcohol, you're doing all kinds of things that are not necessarily aligned with what is required for you to get through the perimetopausal transition. And when perimenopause comes in, ooh, baby.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

Yeah, it's the wake-up call.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Yes, yes. And a lot of people go in the direction of it's my hormones. They because it's very hard to reevaluate your entire lifestyle up to that point from teenage, adolescence, puberty all the way to perimenopause, right? But a lot of the symptoms can be alleviated or toned down through a lifestyle change. So that's why I say it's about 80-20. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Yeah, I tend to agree with that perspective, non-clinically speaking, of course. And for women who are overwhelmed by conflicting advice that they may be receiving, what foundational disciplines matter most?

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Foundational disciplines.

Sleep, Substances, Nutrition, Strength

SPEAKER_00 18:58

First of all, sleep, right? So getting enough sleep, enough good quality sleep, eight plus hours is essential. That's so that would be my first first place I would start looking. Substances, right? Because substances prevent us from getting good sleep and they affect our mood and a lot of other things. I would look at those two things first. What can you improve on in terms of sleep? What can you remove as far as substances? And then your nutrition. So are you eating enough food? A lot, a lot of us don't eat enough food, shockingly, right? And we wonder like, how the heck am I gaining weight? I'm not eating anything. But with what does that mean? Because you can have 2,000 calories worth of snacks and they could feel like nothing, or you can have 2,000 calories worth of whole foods and balanced meals where you can feel full, right? So you have to evaluate your nutrition, not from a lack of perspective, like what can I get rid of? What can I add that's going to improve my quality of life? I'm going to get enough nutrients, enough vitamins, minerals, protein, the right types of carbs, less refined sugar, the right types of fats, getting a little bit more granular here, right? And then what can I do for my muscle mass, for my bone density? How can I improve my body composition rather than looking at it as pure fat loss or losing weight or shifting and pivoting a little bit to how can I add more muscle to my frame that's going to speed up my metabolism, make me feel better every day, regulate my hormones, improve my mood. I'm just going to feel better overall so I can do all the other things. And that would be strength training. So strength training with progressive overload. What that means is you start where you're at. And if that means you're going to start with body weight, great. You start with body weight. And progressively over the course of months and years, and in my case, decades, you add a little bit more weight to your resistance, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:17

I agree with that perspective. It's very powerful about understanding better what we can add and what we need to take away. Now, you speak about self-sabotage. And in midlife, how does self-sabotage show up differently than it did in our 20s and 30s?

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Yeah, so many different ways. And it's a this is a funny story because when I realized my main reason for failing all of the different diets that I tried until I found the method that worked for me, was I was sabotaging with emotional eating. So I would do really well from months and months. I would be on point, dialed

Mapping Triggers And Ending Self-Sabotage

SPEAKER_00 22:05

in, all the things, and then out of nowhere, something would trigger me. And at first I didn't know that there was a pattern, but something would happen, and then I would go into an emotional eating uh flare-up that could last anywhere from a day to a month. And so I did I had no idea my whole life that I was doing that, especially when I was trying to lose weight. And so when I became aware of this and I started paying attention, I noticed a pattern. So I noticed, oh, when this happens, I go into this tailspin. When I get hit emotionally with a very specific feeling, I noticed because I would map them out. It was usually grief. When I would feel grief about something, like a person, a project, a an item, it didn't matter, right? I would have a tendency to cope with that uncomfortable feeling with food. Right. And so I became aware that I started mapping it out. I noticed a pattern and I said, oh, this is interesting, right? So I it's like Alice in Wonderland in my own mind on this mission. I was on this mission. And I, when I realized that that is a pattern, and if I know the pattern, if I can recognize it, I can interrupt that pattern. And whether can I interrupt it at the very beginning at the at the trigger point? Probably not, because a lot of those things I didn't have control over what would happen in life, but I did have control over how I responded and reacted to it. And so I knew somehow intuitively that I couldn't stop myself, right? At the beginning. And so I needed a bridge. And I thought about it, I thought about it. I was like, okay, what if you create some your main the main things that you reach for are Nutella, ice cream, things like that. So what if you create substitutions for these products, for these items, for these foods that you're going for and have them handy, have them ready when you need to go into triage. Okay. And so I would be prepared. I would expect it to happen. I didn't, because when I try to be like, oh, I'm never going to do that again, that that didn't work. Wasn't realistic. It happened. And so anytime it would happen, I had something prepared. And I would reach for that instead.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, I do believe in a good strategy is so much more powerful than willpower, right? Which tends to lead to failure or frustration. So it sounds like your storytelling about what was going on had to become more honest. Would that sound correct?

SPEAKER_00 25:02

You had to become aware, right? So I had to become aware of the self-sabotaging behaviors, thoughts, and patterns in a real honest way, right? With no judgment, without getting into blame and shame and all that stuff. Because getting into blame and shame and judgment is self-sabotage. That is the protector of self-sabotage, right? Because as soon as you become aware of your self-sabotaging behavior, the defender and protector of those behaviors jump out, which are guilt, shame, embarrassment, judgment, they come out and defend that behavior because the behavior wants to stay there, right? And so when you fall victim to the bodyguard of self-sabotage, you're going to repeat that cycle. You're going to be right back to square one. And so I realized this and I said, okay, I'm going to make shame, guilt, judgment my friends. Because then I, if I'm friends with all of you guys, I can get to the self-sabotage in a friendly way. I want to be on the inside. I don't want to be fighting myself from the outside. And so that's that was where my breakthrough really happened is I would say, okay, shame, guilt, embarrassment, judgment. Let's talk, let's have a chat.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Yeah, it's great. I can hear curiosity came in and a desire to get to know yourself at a deeper level, all these parts that were contributing to where you found yourself at that point. And

Making Friends With Shame And Guilt

SPEAKER_01 26:40

so often with clients that I work with, I find like they definitely, in the attempt to shift their behavior, can become very critical, very judgmental, very, in your to use your words, shaming about what they're doing. And so, how did you navigate that in a way that made it possible to be friendly with these parts of you as opposed to punitive?

SPEAKER_00 27:10

Understanding, really listening to why, right? Why, where is this feeling coming from? And if you trace the thread far enough, if you listen long enough, if you allow yourself to feel it long enough, and it's and I'm not saying it happens in one shot, right? It happens over years and years and years, but just follow that thread, and you will find an innocent little girl who was hurt a long time ago, and she doesn't really want that again, or a little toddler that lost a parent, or an adolescent girl who had her whole life changed, a teenager that rebelled because their parents were so strict and she couldn't move and she felt paralyzed by them. And a college student who worked really hard to make things. All of these times and all of these personas and identities still live inside of us, they don't go anywhere. The more critical and shaming we are towards ourselves and those periods of time and those personas as they were crystallized in our mind, the more they dislike us. So if you think about it from their perspective, put yourself back into your teenage self, and you see yourself now treating yourself in this way, of course, you're not gonna get on the team. You're not gonna be on the same team, you're gonna be in constant resistance, right? And so I didn't want that. I just I wanted it to be frictionless, smooth, as easy as possible, because it wasn't gonna be easy, but I didn't want to create problems where problems didn't need to exist. And so I had to put my ego down and not really hear all the feedback.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

I can hear such great strength, growth, and healing in that, Cher. So thank you for that because I do feel that women tend to struggle with how to be gentle with themselves. And I think if if you're able to, if you are a mother, you can certainly connect with these young versions of ourselves, as you say, that still exist inside us and so desperately want our attention and connection and probably even reassurance that we're not going to neglect them at this time when we're working to connect with them. So thank you for sharing that. So you use the phrase detoxing your daily life. So I love that because I think midlife requires editing, and you said some things you have to take away. What did you eliminate?

SPEAKER_00 30:02

So many things.

Detoxing Daily Life And Boundaries

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Was it food, relationships, media, internal narratives, all of those, something else?

SPEAKER_00 30:13

That's a great question because I did not eliminate any foods. I still wanted to have all the things I liked, right? Just in a different format, right? So it wasn't gonna be store-bought ice cream, it was ice cream that I made. It wasn't gonna be store-bought brownies, it was gonna be brownies, protein brownies that I made, right? And so I left those things in just on my terms with with people, you can't do that. So you can't edit parts that you like and others that you don't, right? So with people, I had to really put my foot down, especially talking about boundaries. Yes, yes, exactly. Especially if you're the type of person that does not have good boundaries, which another funny story. This week or last week, I think, I was recording an episode for my podcast, The How Good Can It Get podcast. And I was talking to Dr. Amelia Kelly, who's an ADHD therapist, and literally as she's describing all of these characteristics and traits and personality types of ADHD women and perimenopause, I had to stop her right in the middle. I was like, wait a minute, hold on. Check, check every single one of them I had have, right? And so I cracked myself up because I was like, I had no idea that having not such great boundaries, letting people to do whatever they want in your life, a whole bunch of things are part of ADHD and perimenopause, which amplifies in that time as well. And so that learning that was really mind-blowing. But boundaries are a lot of us struggle with boundaries, right? We allow people into our lives and put up with things that we don't really feel like we need to put up with because we are conditioned or afraid to be alone or we don't want to disappoint people. And all our friends from the last question, and so I had to really own up to that. I had to let people go.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Wow. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes when we grow, shift, or become a new version of ourselves, that is a part of that shift. Good for you for recognizing that because it does sound like some boundaries had to become non-negotiable. Yeah, good for you. So we're you were running a business and raising a family, as I understand it. So when women say I don't have time, how do you respond to that?

SPEAKER_00 32:54

I know you don't have time.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Okay, so you can relate to that comment because you were there, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

A hundred percent. How can she

Time, Priorities, And The Real Cost

SPEAKER_00 33:05

have time? Is it truly time or is it priority, though? Do you think it depends on how old the kids are, right? Depends on if she has a supportive partner, depends on a lot of things, how much time she has. But the question is, what is the cost of you not having time? Are you willing to pay that price? Right? Because I paid the price of pre-diabetes, two-year hospitalizations, all kinds of things. I had 19 ovarian cysts, I was 80 pounds obese. That was the price I paid. Wow. So how much are you gonna pay now or are you gonna pay later? Because you're gonna pay it. There's gonna be an invoice, there's gonna be a bill.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Yeah, there's always a bill. There's always a bill. So let's talk about this program or this retreat organization that you founded called Thor. The House of Rose is what it stands for. So tell our listeners what that's about and how that's helping not only you, but the people that you get to work with in their midlife transition.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Yeah, so the house of Rose is my love child. So, in in the process of this transformation, of this transition, it's been 13 years for me now. I'm going to be 50 this year. I started at 37. All of this is encapsulated into the work that I'm doing now. And the retreats are five-day retreats. They're in the Smoky Mountains, they're all beautiful. And they incorporate yoga, Pilates, hiking, food, strength training, community,

THOR Retreats And Community Support

SPEAKER_00 34:45

connection, talking to people that are in the same stages, urine, workshops on beauty and all kinds of things, right? And so these are all the things I absolutely love and adore and love to share. And that's what the retreats are for. And at the same time, I also offer coaching for women that want to continue working uh through this particular transformation or transition or lifestyle change. And it really is my love child. And I feel like it has been become my absolute most beloved stage of life.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

I could just tell by you're just lighting up talking about it. So that's wonderful. For so as a closing reflection for women, for the women listening who know she's capable of more, but hasn't acted yet. What would you say to her?

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Hang in there. You know, your time will come. If it's not today, if it's not tomorrow, just don't stop. Don't stop knowing and feeling and listening to your intuition. A lot of times our intuition is a compass, it's really nudging us in the better direction and asking the right questions. It's not necessarily always self-sabotage either. Sometimes the saboteurs they do have good intentions. And don't wait until you're in a rock bottom.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Okay. And I know so a lot of times that's what women are waiting for, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 36:08

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Things get too bad, and then hopefully it's not too late. That's great that you you are setting that bar at maybe waiting

Final Encouragement And Where To Find Terry

SPEAKER_01 36:20

if the timing isn't right, but certainly listening and not waiting till it's too late, which is wonderful. So I want to thank you, Terry, for joining us. This conversation reinforces something I deeply believe. Midlife isn't about shrinking, it's about strengthening. If this episode resonated with you, please share this with a woman who's ready to raise her standards, not lower her expectations. Terry, where can our listeners find you and learn more about Thor?

SPEAKER_00 36:56

You can find me on the website, thehouseofrose.com or on my Instagram, How Good Can It Get.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Oh, that's wonderful. Great. And you mentioned you have a podcast, How Good Can It Get. Yes?

SPEAKER_00 37:10

Yeah, that's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Wonderful. We look forward to listening to more of that and for our listeners to check out more of you. Okay, you've been listening to She Asks, where healing needs practical help. I'm your host, Anna McBride, and I am so glad that you were here today. And until soon, be well.