How to Feel Secure and Happy in a Relationship: Bryan Power on Healing, Growth, and Practical Steps

This podcast episode features Bryan Power, a Certified Integrated Attachment Theory Coach, who shares his personal journey of healing and transformation through attachment theory. Bryan explains the four main attachment styles—secure, anxious-preoccupied, dismissive avoidant, and fearful avoidance—and how they impact relationships. He discusses how people can identify their own attachment styles and start healing by understanding their core emotional wounds, setting healthy boundaries, improving communication, and regulating emotions.

Bryan emphasizes the importance of accountability and practical steps for healing, including a 20–21-day reprogramming program that helps retrain the brain to believe in worthiness and love. He highlights the role of spirituality and faith in his own healing journey and how having a sense of something greater can support emotional growth.

Bryan also shares how failure can be reframed as an opportunity for growth and encourages listeners to do the work on themselves, especially during times of separation or relationship struggle. The episode ends with Bryan offering resources on his website, including a quiz to learn attachment styles, access to a Personal Development School, and an invitation for a free coaching session to guide people towards healthier, more fulfilling relationships.

Overall, the episode is about understanding attachment, healing emotional wounds, and creating stronger, more conscious relationships through practical tools and mindset shifts.

Bryan's website:  www.myrelationshipfail.com 

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@myrelationshipfail

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/myrelationshipfail/

Transcript

so welcome to today's episode
 I'm so glad you are here
 because we have a truly inspiring conversation ahead
 my guest is Brian Power
 Certified Integrated Attachment Theory coach
 whose personal journey is living proof
 that change is not only possible
 it can transform our lives in the most beautiful ways
 Brian welcome
 Justina
 thank you so much for having me on the show today
 I'm excited to be here and I love what you're doing
 so it's an honor to be on your show lovely
 so yeah it's
 it's such a pleasure to have you here
 and I've been looking forward to this chat
 because your story and the coaching
 you do touch on something so many of us can relate to
 you know like learning how to heal how to grow
 and also how to build stronger relationships
 so the integrated
 attachment theory involves four attachment styles
 that we usually fall into relationship
 right so yes
 that that yeah
 so for those new to your
 how would you describe
 these four main attachment styles
 in simple terms so attachment uh
 style
 attachment theory has been around really since the 70s
 and um
 what it is they put basically four categories
 so what we have is one number one
 is what's called the secure attachment style
 and that is typically somebody who's
 you know very emotionally balanced
 they they really know how to communicate well
 they really know how to uh
 you know
 set good healthy boundaries and and make sure they
 you know
 that they kind of hold those boundaries and stuff
 and so they're just really good at it
 they kind of have a good you know
 wait about being in relationships
 and
 that's kind of the one that we're all looking to be
 it's more that secure attachment style
 good communication you know
 well regulated emotions
 really balanced in every way um
 so that's kind of the goal for all of us unfortunately
 unfortunately a lot of us aren't there
 we're gonna fall in one of the other three categories
 and they are as follows No. 1
 you have what's called a a a anxious
 preoccupied anxious preoccupied
 they typically are very very much the
 the relationship is very important to them
 it's kind of like the No. 1 thing in their lives
 a lot of times they will make a lot of sacrifices
 for the relationship they can be very uh
 very giving in that relationship and very you know
 almost to the point where they're too giving
 they're almost people pleasing
 um they
 they love the attachment the
 the connection a lot of times
 they maybe get in a relationship
 and within a week or two they're already
 you know in love and already see this
 you know thing kind of developing into the
 you know the dream relationship of their lives
 and stuff like that so they just love attachment
 they love connection they really care...
 to the point where sometimes it's unhealthy though
 and they and they need it too much
 to where it becomes a little bit more problematic
 if you will um
 on the flip side of that
 is what's called the dismissive avoidant
 dismissive avoidance
 typically have a hard time with connection
 they typically like a lot of space
 they like to you know
 kind of do everything on by themselves
 a lot more isolated if you will
 um they really fear
 you know uh
 losing their autonomy
 losing some of their freedom and stuff
 so that's the opposite of the
 of the uh
 anxious preoccupied
 right in between there is what's called a uh
 fearful avoidance
 fearful avoidance will typically swing between both
 right so they kind of
 one week they may be in
 in love and everything seems like they're pretty good
 they're feeling very connected
 maybe the following week
 they're now looking for some isolation
 some time alone they want to get away from you
 maybe even end the relationship in a weird way
 like just out of the blue it seems um
 and they just really swing between again
 anxious and and dismissive
 and so they just really have a
 a different uh
 you know different way of dealing with it
 a little bit all over the board
 if you will so those are the four major touch ins
 of course
 with the goal of ultimately for all of us
 trying to be to a secure attachment style
 hmm yeah
 so how can someone
 begin to identify their own attachment style
 uh well
 I mean you can go to my website and take a quick test
 that's one way to kind of just
 you know so you can go to my
 my relationship fail.com there is a quick quiz there
you can take that quiz and
and that'll give you a pretty good idea
of where you sit but ultimately
really it's about
you know understanding our emotions
starting to feel out you know how
you know what are the emotions that are happening
why am I feeling this way
starting to ask some questions about
you know what are my wounds and and really discovering
the wounds ultimately
because the wounds are really what tell the story
and really what kind of drive our
our behaviors if you will
um so understanding your emotional attack
excuse me
understanding your attachment style is important
and that's something good to know
but ultimately it's the deeper levels of actually
understanding our wounds and
and some of those things
that really make the difference
yeah so going back to the childhood basically
yeah so a lot of times our
our our
our what's called our core wounds
they actually develop in our childhood
um you know...
usually the first seven years are extremely uh
you know you know
where a lot of our wounds and stuff
and thoughts and stuff can kind of come
come about so early childhood is important
but they can develop throughout our lives but
but a lot of them are to go back to our childhood
hmm I think so yeah
so what what
first inspired you to specialize in this
attachment theory and emotional healing
yeah I was
I was almost forced into it in a sense
I OK
you know my wife
I'll tell you a little story
my wife and I in 2024 uh
we would experience kind of a crazy
crazy year at the beginning of the year
you know
we had what I would call a pretty good relationship
you know there was no major issues
we really loved each other
had a lot of fun together
we had some minor disagreements
a lot of it was you know
about how we parented and some different things
but nothing major
major no major drug issues
no major money issues no major
you know infidelity
stuff like that none of those big
you know glaring red flags
if you will um
but we all end up having a little disagreement
about parenting one night
and that little fight kind of LED my wife to say
you know hey
you should probably get some
you know some therapy and some
you know get some work on
on yourself and I said okay
you know what fair enough
I'm willing to do that
but I also feel like you should also get
you know
some therapy and maybe work on yourself as well
so we both agreed to you know
get some therapy and begin that work down that path
over the next four months though
we would continue to have a lot of our childhood trauma
begin to play out
and we started kind of having emotional battles
if you will um
and just our emotions were just all over the board
and the more she would pull away
the more it would kind of trigger my anxiety and
and my fear of abandonment
and then uh
it it just kind of became this really kind of crazy
emotional roller coaster
and the therapy was good for us at that time
but I also feel like the therapy
sometimes added a little bit of fuel to the fire
because the childhood trauma specialist
she was working with a lot of times she
would come home and those thoughts
and some of the emotions that she had been
you know holding back
if you will were now kind of coming out
so
it really just added a little bit of fuel to the fire
but after about four months of this um
my wife would actually seek a restraining
order against me
to get the emotional stability that she needed
she she really needed some time to...
to separate and
and get herself figured out a little bit
and
because I was having a hard time giving her that space
she did seek a a restraining order and
and just to make sure everybody knows
it was never a violent threat
I never threatened her physically
it was just emotional uh
distress that she was you know
dealing with and and needing that uh
emotional regulation if you will
so that restraining order would
then put a divide between us
where she had to focus on her issues
I had to focus on mine uh
and luckily for me I'd come across integrate
attachment theory
about a month or so before that actually happened
and I was really
I was really just captivated by this work up
a woman named Tye Gibson out of Canada
created Integrated Attachment Theory
and she put this little program together to
not only understand what our attachment styles are
but also to begin healing and working on that
so that we can now fix our attachment style
and ultimately get to that secure state
so I decided
I was just gonna dive head first into this thing and
and really just threw myself into that work and uh
it it just really was an amazing journey for me
and the amount of stuff that I Learned
through that program
has just been incredibly beneficial
at this time you know hmm yeah
and it's really incredible
that you are sharing that with
with others
you know that you are helping others to to heal
yeah I mean honestly
I truly feel like I went through the experience
for a reason and yes
number one
it was ultimate to fix and help heal my relationship
because it was somewhat broken
we have a relationship that is a thousand times better
but uh also for me I feel like you know
to me there's nothing worse than losing
the person you love in your life
simply because you don't have the tools necessary
to fix it and and that's really
really painful
and I just wanna take my experience my knowledge
things that I've Learned through this
and share that with others
in hopes
that we can keep somebody
from having to go through that type of experience
so hopefully I
point you in the right direction and
and maybe get you some answers
so that you don't have to go through that same
type of situation yeah
definitely and what are some first
practical steps people can take today
to start healing their attachment wounds
depending on what they are basically yeah yeah
I mean the first thing I
I really love the integrated attachment theory program
personally that's something that works for me
but the first step is to accept that
you know we need some help
we need to figure some things out right
it's to look in the mirror and say okay...
I need to begin fixing myself
that is the first step is to take some accountability
and realize that we're not perfect
we have some issues
we definitely wanna move in the right direction
once you decide to do that
there's different avenues you can take
I personally would suggest because of my own experience
um going to my website at my relationship fail.com
and you can join the personal development school
which is Tye Gibson School
and in that school there is just a wealth of videos
workbooks um all
relationship oriented material that you can learn from
and start to change and and start to learn and grow
and it is just a wealth
treasure trove of of of information there
so I love that go to that
go to my website and then join through there
when you join through my website
I'm gonna give you a free session
a chance to talk with me and we can kind of
you know put you in the right direction
but yeah that sounds great
yeah yeah thanks so much
and I'm just wondering you know
through that uh
whole experience you know
like I only recently heard about this theory
and it really opened my eyes because I was in I'm
I'm still in a relationship where um
we have some some issues uh
it's it's
it's okay now but yeah we were in a tough spot
like you were with your wife
and so yeah
so I'm just wondering you know
like what was the what is the common challenge
you see in your coaching clients
what it's like you know
people coming to you and what type of help they
they asking for yeah
that's a great question I mean honestly
it's it's kind of a little of everything and
and that's the thing about it
just so we know like here
here's the thing the main
six core elements of
integrated attachment theory are as follows
number one you have your core wounds
and those are the uh
those are the subconscious thoughts that we have
that we're kind of driving our behaviors
without us even really knowing
all right and so those
those core wounds you know
they drive the train um
so
it's very important that we begin to learn about them
start to recognize them
and then begin to heal those core wounds
secondly is gonna be your needs okay
and and really starting to learn what are my true needs
what do I really need in life
sometimes we're chasing things that
ultimately aren't what we truly need in life
and even if we have it we're feeling unfulfilled
so how do I find out what my true needs are
and then begin to match those needs up
uh you know
get in line with those and also begin to
you know
really fill a lot of my own needs myself as many
as much as I can
not trying to outsource my needs to somebody else
because if I outsource it...
then I'm relying on them to meet my needs
which is never a good thing
No.3 we want to work on our emotions okay
if we start to get emotional control
start to you know
understand our emotions
start to look at emotions as information
not as you know
a problem that you
a lot of times we think fear or anger
these are negative emotions
they're not negative emotions
they're just information trying to tell us something
why am I afraid why am I in fear
why am I you know what
what is triggering this emotion
what are my thoughts behind that
that are causing this emotion
so we really wanna start to understand those
we also wanna set some boundaries how do I
I set good healthy boundaries in my life
you know so that
you know I have a certain amount of
of standard in my life that
that I expect people to kind of adhere to
um so that's important
and not have you know
crazy boundaries that are unobtainable
maybe off the charts you know
not really healthy either
also not having any boundaries
but again how do I have good healthy boundaries
also this is the main one I love
this one is No. 5 is communication
I feel like most relationships we always talk about
right communication breakdown
how do we communicate in a healthy way
um because our communication is huge
and a lot of times our wounds
it
it give us perceptions in the way we think about things
and and we can just be communicating
sometimes trying to say the same thing
but because we're not speaking the same language
if you will it gets clouded in there and it gets
you know we end up not understanding each other
and then it becomes you know
frustrating and
and and all that so how do we communicate properly
and my wife and I have some
you know stuff that we do now that works really uh
totally different yeah
and last but not least is our behaviors
how do I start to you know
No.1 understand my emotions
but then even if I am emotional
how do I change my behaviors
to act in a way that is respectful
that is a way that you know uh
people can look at and say man
that guy really knows how to handle himself and
and it is more beneficial to me right
if my behavior is you know
I
I get a little emotional and I fly off the handle and I
you know
maybe I throw stuff around the house because I'm angry
well that's not a healthy way to handle
you know things right so how do I
change my behaviors
when you work on all six of those elements
it's a game changer now we all fall sometimes
you know I may be in that part
where I need to work on those core wounds
maybe I'm past that maybe I'm not...
I need to work on different parts of that
you know six program
if you will and they can all have different challenges
I mean sometimes
you know one may come a little easier for somebody
then the other
but they all have kind of have their own challenges
everybody is definitely a little bit different
when it comes down to those hmm
can you give us some tools that we actually can
you know can
can use when healing our our wounds
for instance like love
lack of love or lack of safety
what would that be so when you
so with the core wounds
once we kind of recognize there's a core wound
we there is a uh
a
a program that we kind of do in
in the Integrated Attachment Theory program
it's a 20 day 21 day retraining program
where we kind of look at the core one
let's just say you know
fear of I'm going to be alone right
so just say I'm that's my fear
so now we can do it
what's called a reprogramming exercise
where we can say uh
you know I am worth
I am worthy of you know
somebody staying with me right
I'm I am
you know going
I'm never going to be alone because I'm
I am valuable you know
or something like that so now we can
now what we want to do is we want to take that program
we can do it in the morning and we can kind of
you know sit through that we
we kind of verbalize it we kind of try to envision it
because we want to touch the uh
the emotion with the with the vision as well
so we wanna kind of you know
get our brain to think about that
and feel the emotions of it
cause that's really how it's gonna begin to
create new neuropathways
so that we start to believe subconsciously
that we know that we're worthy
we're worthy of love
we're not gonna be alone and stuff like that
so that's just one of the exercises that we can do uh
to help kind of you know again
retrain the brain
and there is scientific evidence that we can now
you know create new neuro pathways
hmm we can
and we can actually change some of the old
neuro pathways we can kind of
you know uh
change those into good healthy pathways so uh
so by doing the exercise
it definitely makes a difference yeah
and um
I feel that all also you know
like giving yourself love
giving yourself um
safety if
if if this is what
you know that
that wound is I feel that it's um
it's really like healing you from inside
like giving that to yourself as well
oh absolutely
yeah I'm a big
I believe that uh...
the core of this whole program
really does start with those core wounds
really does start with those core wounds
those subconscious core wounds
because I think until we heal those
those wounds play out in ways that are unhealthy and
and uh
to me that is the foundation of starting to really heal
and beginning to you know
have healthier relationships
healing ourselves within
yeah another one that I love is like
like I'll talk about some communication
this is a big one that I recognized for my wife and I
you know in the past
my wife and I would have discussions about something
and it would if it got a little bit testy
my wife I would always feel like I was being attacked
so I would always listen to my wife uh
in a way that I was trying to
you know get ready to defend myself
you know not really paying
attention to what she was trying to tell me or
or talk about I was looking to defend right
so we no longer do that anymore
certainly if we're if we're kind of triggered
we're at heightened emotional state
we just kind of
will put the conversation on hold for a little while
but once we get to a point where we can now sit down
we'll look each other in the eye
face to face for five or 10 minutes
that other person gets to speak
completely uninterrupted so while my wife is speaking
I'm now listening to understand her
I truly wanna know what she's thinking
what her thoughts are I don't feel attacked
I don't personalize it where I feel like
you know she's trying to attack me
um and so now I can listen
understand instead of listening to defend
and then when she's done I get to go I get
to look her in the face I get to share my thoughts
my feelings on this situation
and I don't have to necessarily agree
we can completely disagree uh
but I get to share openly
honestly without being interrupted and having this
you know uh
become an unhealthy situation
if it does trigger us sometimes
and it can sometimes
because if you are talking about something important
and if it does trigger us a little bit
we'll just take that step back again
again give each other a little breathing space
and then
we'll come back and revisit this at a better time
so never have conversations when you're triggered
that's
that's one of the things that I absolutely Learned is
is you know kind of walk away
from that um
but also again when we're communicating
are we truly communicating
are we truly talking and listening
to hear each other and understand each other
that's the that's a big thing for sure
hmm
I feel that there's a lot of awareness in this method
cause like you have to be aware of what's
what you're feeding inside what your thoughts
you know what your triggers as well
so it's it's all about knowing yourself
and knowing what triggers you yeah...
for sure that's a big start of it yeah
the awareness of how I'm thinking what I'm doing
you know all that stuff
the awareness is absolutely the
the beginning of that for sure yeah yeah
I think it's a key to everything yeah
for sure
so yeah so in your coaching work
how do you see spirituality or sense of deeper meaning
yeah I mean
everybody has their own journey in that sense
I personally am a believer in God and Jesus Christ
so that that's my journey on that
if somebody you know
wants to talk about that
we can certainly introduce that as well
I believe that faith for me
through the experience I went through
that was a big part of my healing and
and the opportunity to just kind of rely on God
trust that there was a reason for everything happening
and and trust that everything was gonna be OK
in that regard but um
I I kind of work with everybody on their own level
in that regard I don't wanna yeah
I don't wanna necessarily push my beliefs
in the way I kinda went through it
I know that for me uh
it was the most incredible experience of my life
and as crazy and as difficult as that time was
I really felt like I never felt closer to God
I never felt closer than I did at that time
and he literally
just took me through this entire process and
and showed me that he was there for me
at the entire time
and I came out on the backside of this
you know even better than I was before
so for me faith has been a huge part of it
but yeah yeah
everybody's different but I guess
you know like
having a sense of someone
or something greater than yourself
can really
help you let go of the need to control everything
around you so that that's
something that I think AA also uses
you know in the
in the program yeah
so it's it's really transforming
I guess to know that um
there's something outside of your ego that
you know have this
this power over your life yeah absolutely
I mean for me
this was one of the most humbling
experiences in my life
and that was the thing I had to do was humble myself
too and
and just be able to accept it and and
and just yeah
just be humble
be willing to do whatever it needed to do
to get through it
and just let God kind of take me where it needed to go
and and he did
he just kind of he provided everything for me
place to stay my emotional stability
a great program here that allowed me to
you know begin to heal and
and be able to work on my relationships and
and it just took me from the bottom to the top
and that's one of the things I talk about now
is I love to take failure and turn it into success...
and I love to talk about how your greatest
your greatest failure your greatest moment here
you might be challenged
you might be like going through something really
really difficult right now
and it may feel like the end of the world
but the truth is if you stay with it
if you stay strong
if you just kind of focus and do some of the work
this thing can take you to the top
and I was like to think of a Super Bowl
if we take a Super Bowl and we throw it on the ground
right the harder and faster you hit the ground
that super ball the higher that thing can bounce
and and that's why I like to think of it is like
the harder we fall sometimes the higher we
and you know
rise from it if we allow ourselves to
to just go through it and
and learn from it and grow from it
and that's that's what I teach now hmm yeah
I I actually saw that eh on your website
I was wondering what is it
is it about
cause you mentioned failure a lot on your website yeah
so that's the meaning of it okay yeah
I like to say a failure is a new F word
and yeah you know
it it's like we shouldn't be afraid to fail
obviously failure isn't necessarily the goal
but when we try in life whether it's relationships
we try a new business we try anything in life
there's definitely a chance to fail
and a lot of times we do fail
but it's through that failure that a lot of times
we learn the most and exactly
and so now so so now
even though we're going through a tough time
or we're maybe experiencing some challenges and stuff
instead of feeling like we're being punished
instead of feeling like you know
we're never gonna grow through this
never gonna get past it
look at it as an opportunity to grow and be challenged
and know that you're gonna come out of there
even better than before and so
I look at it now as an incredible opportunity
just to change and and grow and
and like I'm excited for you know
I'm not saying I pray for for that right
it's not saying I'm looking to fail
I'm not looking to go through struggle per se
but when it comes into my life
I look at it as to say okay
what can I learn from this
what am I supposed to do here
how am I going to grow through this
and get stronger and better from it
and when I take that approach man
it's just a totally different uh
mentality to failure and to struggle than
than I used to have before yeah
it's more like opportunity to grow and
and learn than fail absolutely yeah
absolutely yeah yeah
so any final thoughts for our listeners
do you want to share anything around your program
I mean for me
I always like to share a a little bit of hope
you know I always feel like
you know if you're struggling right now
maybe your relationship has ended
or you're kind of at the brink of that point...
where it seems like it's ending
or maybe you've been broken up for even a few months
whatever it is no matter where you are at
at whatever stage you're in at that
just know that anything can turn around
there is hope I promise you
things can turn around
but the key here is to do the work
while you're separated while you're away
while you have some time
you have to do the work and I always say this because
you know if
if I had done the work and my wife hadn't done the work
when we got back together
our relationship you know
may not have been the same
and I just may have moved on from that relationship
right or if she had done the work and I didn't
the work
then she might have moved on from me and decided hey
I don't want to do this anymore
it doesn't seem like you're in a healthy zone
like it just wouldn't have worked right
or if neither one of us had done the work
even if we did get back together
we probably would have end up just back in
same bad zone we would have just fought together
we could have had the same problems and stuff
so that wouldn't have been great either
what was great about us and our breakup
is that both of us decided to do some work
and through that work and through that healing
we actually have a a relationship today
that is 1,000 times better than what we had
you know when
when we went through the breakup and
and through the struggle and so I always say
even if your partner isn't gonna do the work do
do the work for yourself and see what happens
because once we begin to put our head down and
and and just attack this thing
anything is possible you know
your spouse can come back
and you guys can have a great relationship
or if it doesn't work out that way
you're at least
in a better position to have a great relationship
with somebody and I promise you
somebody else will come into your life
you're not gonna be alone forever
you're going to have somebody else
and another opportunity to have a good relationship
but the key is are you gonna be prepared for that
or are you just gonna fall into the same
negative patterns and
and maybe some of the same unhealthy behaviors
so um I always feel like a breakup
is called a breakup because we're going to break up
we're not gonna break down right
so we're not gonna break down
but you can choose to break down okay
if you choose to break down then yeah
your life may go down down a little bit right
but if you choose to break up
we're gonna use that that breakup
if you will as a chance to
grow and and move up the ladder not down the ladder so
uh so I just like to take that approach hmm
that's yeah that's lovely yeah
and a another question I have um
tricky one
uh oh uh oh
how do you see love oh boy that is a now...
that is a trick what is what is love
that is a tricky question you know
I will say the
the main difference that I see from my wife and I
now is
I always say that my wife and I choose each other today
we choose every day to be in each other's lives
and we choose every day to
you know to try to meet each other's needs
and to be as compassionate to each other
and as kind to each other
and as open to listening to each other
and learning from each other
and stuff like we're together because we choose it
we're not together because we have to be
we're not together because
you know we have our own issues or any
these other things we choose to be together
and that is the most incredible
part of this relationship that I have today
and I and I just
it's different than it was before
even though we did choose at some level
but I feel like a lot of those problems kind of
you know you
stuck in that rut and you kind of like
feel like you're stuck in there sometimes
but today
like my wife and I have a great relationship and
and we work on it and we just choose love every day
we choose to be together and share this life together
and it is just a what
a different experience
from what I see today in our lives
and our relationship than that
than what I had even just a year and a half ago
it is so much more beautiful today and
and more fulfilling in every in every way
shape and form so yeah
but it love is that's a tricky one yeah
but yeah
it's a tricky question yeah
that's kind of my my feeling on that
it's like just being able to choose each other
and being able to choose love
and being able to you know
choose love not feeling like we're forced
be together hmm for other yeah yeah yeah
I feel like you know
like with all those romantic films and novels
like we we see love as something like emotions
but eh like you said
emotions just like
they are just like information for us
you know
just like a signals of what's going on but yeah
love I guess
it's just like acceptance and choosing another person
so yeah so I totally agree with you and yeah
I would yeah I would like to thank you so much
for this conversation and it was a great
great pleasure talking with you Brian oh yeah
Justine I I can talk about this all day
I love I love talking about this stuff and uh
I love sharing you know
some of the things I've gone through and
and some of the things I've Learned
but yeah if anybody wants to learn some of this and
and does really want to get more information
please go to my website at my relationship fail.com
and you can take the quiz
and learn your attachment style
through there
you can also join the Personal Development School
which is a school that I Learned from Tye...
Skipton School there is a wealth
of information and videos that you can learn from
you can literally spend I think
a lifetime in here just learning and growing
and if you join through my website
if you join her school through my website
No. 1 you're gonna get the best price available
but number two
I'm gonna give you a free session a chance to uh
for us to talk and I can kind of listen to your story
see if I can point you in the right direction
see if I can get you some
some help and and we'll go from there
if you decide you want to work with me beyond that
great we can talk about that if you just decide hey
I you know
I just want to continue to work in in the in the uh
personal development school on my own
by all means I'm happy to have you do that as well
I just want to get as many people
pointed in the right direction as possible
so that we can start healing some more relationships
so people can be happy and free and
and experiencing
love on the level that they're looking for yeah
thank you so much
and I will add the details on how to link with you and
and your website as well in this eh
podcast episode so
everyone who is interested in getting to know something
something more around this topic
or in 1 to 1 coaching with
with you you will have
more information in the podcast episode description
thank you so much Brian
Justina thanks so much
it's been an absolute pleasure
and an honor to be on your show
thank you so much thank you
 
 

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