
Supernaut
Supernaut is a podcast about spirituality, sobriety, and the spectrum of self. Hosted by Beth Kelling, this show explores what it means to seek clarity, connection, and personal truth in a world that rarely slows down.
Since beginning her sobriety journey in 2020, Beth has been diving deeper into spiritual practices, emotional honesty, and all the beautiful, messy layers of identity.
Each episode opens the door to conversations about healing, growth, creativity, intuition, and everything in between — because who we are isn’t fixed, it’s a spectrum.
Beth will be joined by guests who share their own stories, perspectives, and spiritual paths — offering insight, inspiration, and the occasional cosmic detour.
Whether you’re sober-curious, spiritually inclined, or just looking to feel a little more human, you’re in the right place
Supernaut
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Ever wonder if you're truly hydrated? Despite drinking what seems like "enough" water, millions of Americans suffer from chronic dehydration without even realizing it. In this eye-opening conversation, Tanya reveals the surprising truth about the water we consume daily and how it might be failing our bodies at the cellular level.
Diving deep into the science of hydrogen molecular water, Tanya explains how conventional drinking water—whether from bottles or tap—often contains chemicals, pesticides, and contaminants that prevent proper cellular hydration. She shares her personal discovery of water ionization technology that creates smaller water molecule clusters capable of penetrating cells directly, delivering hydration where it's most needed. The benefits she's experienced go beyond simple hydration, including relief from period cramps, increased energy, and better skin health—while friends report improvements with chronic conditions like eczema and migraines.
But this conversation extends far beyond water science. Tanya candidly discusses her journey out of a toxic five-year relationship, her decision to dramatically reduce alcohol consumption, and how these changes created space for personal and professional growth. Her powerful insights about fear being "a liar" and the importance of running toward discomfort rather than away from it offer valuable wisdom for anyone seeking positive change. "If nothing changes, nothing changes," she reminds us, emphasizing how small, consistent actions compound into life-altering transformations.
Whether you're curious about optimizing your hydration, building a purpose-driven business, or breaking free from limiting relationships and habits, Tanya's journey provides both practical advice and heartfelt inspiration. Ready to discover if your water might be the missing piece in your health puzzle? Listen now and rethink everything you thought you knew about hydration and personal transformation.
0:00 Introduction and Music Choice
1:25 Raising a Five-Year-Old and Fitness Motivation
3:45 Discovering Hydrogen Molecular Water
7:50 Benefits of Water Ionization Technology
12:50 Building a Water-Based Business
22:53 Journey to Sobriety and Lifestyle Change
30:00 Life Lessons and Personal Growth
39:10 Breaking Free from Toxic Relationships
44:15 Final Thoughts and Closing
Tanya welcome to Supernaut, how are you Good?
Speaker 2:How are you?
Speaker 1:I'm really good. That was amazing. What song did you just pick for us to listen to?
Speaker 2:Get Up by Shinedown. Why did you pick that song? To never give up and just keep going in all areas of life.
Speaker 1:When is the first time you heard that song? I have no idea. Do you listen to it often?
Speaker 2:Not really. It's not on my current playlist.
Speaker 1:Well, I loved it. Shinedown is actually the only band I've ever met. Katie Jo and I were up in Walker, minnesota, at the casino and we were just sitting at the bar afterwards and they came out and got some drinks. So I asked the drummer can I buy you a shot? Can we take a shot together? And he was like yeah, but none of that mixed fruity stuff. I want something straight, like Jack. And I was like, oh my god, I hate even pouring Jack when I was a bartender I hated it so much. But they were super cool and they wanted. Katie Jo was still mad at me because they wanted us to come up and party in their hotel room, but then at one point they were like no, she's. They like pointed at me, they're like she's too drunk, she can't come up to the room. So I ruined it, but it was probably a good thing.
Speaker 2:They had respect, so right on?
Speaker 1:yeah, definitely, um, okay, so let's start off. I just want to talk about how you have the cutest son in the entire world. Like, I don't even really like kids, but but remember that one time I you and I aren't that close, but I still wanted to watch your son. I'm like, go out, do something, I'll babysit, because he's just the cutest thing in the world. How old is he now? He just turned five exactly a week ago. Wow, that's so sad.
Speaker 1:I know it's very sad, yeah, and I saw the other day you gave him cupcakes and I wasn't even sure if you let him have fun food like that. So I was glad that you let him have some fun food, because Tom Brady apparently only let his kids have like fruit, but no other like sweets or anything.
Speaker 2:No, I've given up on that just because it's everywhere and I'm not perfect, but he definitely gets his treats, sometimes too many of them.
Speaker 1:At least with me, he does. So, yeah, so, um, and you've always been in a working out, um, beach body and all that kind of stuff um, I just heard this quote last weekend that, um, if you aren't working out right now because I'm not having enough time, that you need to just accept that you're never going to get in shape because you have more time now than you will ever have. You know you're only getting older, time is only getting faster. So my question for you is what motivates you to keep working out? Because I feel like you've always had the perfect body anyways. Well, I thank you. Like, for me, it's easy to be like you have to work out because I'm not just naturally slender, and. But then I get that out, because I'm not just naturally slender, but I'm thankful for that, because then I get the endorphins and the discipline from working out. But where do you get the motivation?
Speaker 2:Honestly, it became a habit, so I just do it automatically in a way, after time.
Speaker 1:How did you get to it being a habit then?
Speaker 2:I don't know it was part of my job, I guess, when you signed up to be a Beachbody coach, and of course, my son is a huge aspect in that. My quote future kids. That's what he was at one point yeah, only kid now, but it was just a huge motivation, like I want to be there for him and I want to be healthy, I want to run around, I want to do all the things with him and if I'm not in decent shape then I won't be able to. I want to be laying on the floor playing whatever and then exhausted 10 minutes later so that was a huge thing on my end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, definitely. And so now your new thing is water. You said that was the missing piece. Yep, tell me about this whole water adventure. I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2:Right. So what we don't know. We don't know. That starts there. I mean with everything in life. But I don't really do beach body, it's called body. Now I still do the workouts because I work out at home.
Speaker 2:It's convenient Don't have time to go to the gym because I work out at home. It's convenient Don't have time to go to the gym because I have a son frowned upon leaving him at home when he's only five. So I still do the workouts, I still do some of the supplements, but only a couple of them. I don't necessarily promote it, but if somebody were to help or like reach out for help, I would help them. But they changed their business model before I found what I have I have now. So, again, I wasn't really working it when I had this going on.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I was scrolling because I couldn't sleep, as most of us do at night, if they can't sleep, and that's what we do nowadays is aimlessly scroll. And there was a girl about my age saying all right, I'm traveling the world and I'm making all this money. In a nutshell, I'm like, well, what is she doing? And I looked into it, watched the video right then and there, and I'm like all right, what is she doing? Cause they didn't really explain what it was. So I signed up for like a dollar for a free trial and the products were actually told finally, and it was about water, and I'm like, wow, my eyes opened up to it and I'm like all right, I'm already healthy, ish.
Speaker 2:So this I mean we drink water. Our bodies made up of like 70% of water and we all need it to survive. And the water that I was drinking I didn't know. You know, tap water, bottled water, great, it's great, it's not great You're drinking. I guess I was going to share how much plastics were actually consuming, but I didn't get that piece yet. Um, but literally, plastic water is, or plastic water. Plastic bottled water is pretty much tap water in any form. Um, but the tap water that we're drinking, whether it's well or city water or you know, depending on the city, is terrible. It can be terrible.
Speaker 2:Um, you're just drinking chemicals, pesticides, bacteria literally anything and everything you can think of that's getting you sicker and sicker and sicker and you're not even hydrating yourself. You're like you can drink all the quote water, thinking you're dehydrating yourself, but really you're not, and that's sad more than anything.
Speaker 2:But I found hydrogen molecular water that you drink a glass of water and it literally goes right to your cells. Like if you were to slam a glass of water compared to a bottle water like, say, walmart. Like if you were to slam a glass of water compared to a bottle of water like, say, walmart, brand Costco, whatever you can hear it shaking this water. You cannot Prove me wrong. Somebody please.
Speaker 1:How did you find this water?
Speaker 2:That video, the webinar.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, all right, well, what is this? And it was a product called an ionizer, which I now own and technically I promote it because that's my business. I didn't know there was really. I mean, that was my whole thing was, I wanted to make money. And then I'm like, all right, well, what's the product? And here's the product. So it aligned perfectly and the rest is history really.
Speaker 2:So it's like a machine that changes your water, so you use your tap water, but put it in in this machine and then there's also a pre-filter um through multi-peer is what it's called that gets rid of, like the fluoride, the all that stuff. Versus the ionizer only gets a few things out. It's not a filter, it's an ionizer. Um, there's like six to eight different settings on the machine. There's six buttons to push on the settings and each setting does something differently. I have them all out right here so I don't forget, or at least the basics. So obviously it's drinking water. That's the main reason why a lot of people get it. But it is smaller water or water molecular. Oh my gosh, I can't talk now. Smaller water molecule clusters mean it absorbs faster and deeper into your cells, like it literally goes right into your cells versus any other water that you drink will not. Um, it's an antioxidant rich. It's full of free radicals fighting antioxidants, which helps reduce inflammation and support cellular health. It definitely huge on inflammation. That's like a huge cause in the world right now, whether you want to believe it or not.
Speaker 2:Um, it detoxes your body cause. It's alkaline. It helps neutralize acid buildup in the body from processed food, stress and toxins. It removes harmful chemicals. The machine filters out chlorine, heavy metals and other contaminants you normally find in the tap water. But again, like I said, not everything. That's what the pre-filter is for. It even helps clean produce. There's a level that clean produce there's a level that that's where I wash my food really, and it's on level 11.5 removes pesticides and chemicals from all your fruits and vegetables. Um, you can actually see it come off, like rinse it off. You can see it in the water. It's like so disgusting on how people can sell that on the store or in the store um.
Speaker 2:there's a setting like beauty water. There's bug spray deodorant you can clean with it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:How long does it take to change the water? What do you mean? Like when you put the water in it when it comes out of the spout. Oh so you just put it on your faucet at home.
Speaker 2:It's a machine, Okay so you fill that up with water, you hook it up to your water, okay, and it comes out Okay Of your faucet Okay.
Speaker 1:Or whatever, is it easy to change the settings? Oh yeah, you just press the button. Okay. It's very easy, cool. So you're selling these now. Yeah, or how are you making? Money.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, um, depending on your water. Okay, some people think mine tastes bad, but I don't at all, and some people think it tastes good. Um, I can tell the difference. When it's hooked up to a city water I can taste it a little bit, but it's not like disgusting. It doesn't have a taste to me. So it all just kind of depends on what the water, where the water is coming from. Um, so I guess, yeah, the water is coming from. So I guess, yeah, the water ionizer is huge and what it is. It's a medical device. I can travel with it. It's the only water that can get through TSA.
Speaker 2:I brought two, not two gallons, two 5-liters on the plane on my way back and the guy's like how long is your flight? And I'm like I don't know, like three, like three hours. He's like you need that much water. And I'm like no, dude, my machine is getting clean because we get it clean once a year, like professionally cleaned, and he's a clean machine, what are you talking about? And I'm like, just, and then he walked away. But, um, otherwise, yeah, you do got to clean it at home every two-ish months, kind of like changing your oil. You got to upkeep it because they do last up to, they say, about 25 years, but it could last you your whole life If you upkeep it. Yeah, I think that's just like a policy they got to say on there, kind of like a car warranty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know Whatever, but yeah, speaking of traveling, so I went to australia a few months ago and the water there was my favorite part. So the water in the airports, the hotel rooms, was amazing. Um, every restaurant that you walk into they have a little station with tap water sitting there. Um, when you're going on hikes, when you're walking down the streets, there's water fountains and it was honestly the best water I'd ever tasted in my life.
Speaker 1:Until a month later I went to Iceland and then, obviously, that water is even better Like we would stop at the glaciers and get the glacier-fed water and I was like, can I ship this home? Like why don't we have this in America?
Speaker 2:Yeah, America's terrible.
Speaker 1:It's so sad it is very sad. So what other products do they have?
Speaker 2:It's called the Inespa. It is basically like a hot springs in your shower. It's pretty amazing. I personally notice like my hair's a lot softer.
Speaker 1:I don't put lotion on my skin after getting out of the shower. Okay, I wanted to bring up your hair because you have the best hair. We both have curly hair, but I've always been jealous of yours because mine won't grow. Um, so do you think it would help my hair grow? I don't know about growth.
Speaker 2:I know it'll make it probably feel better and a little bit more vibrant. I don't know about growing, I feel like that's more of like.
Speaker 1:It might be that, like my split ends get so bad that that's why it won't grow. So maybe if it made it softer, yeah, maybe that would work, maybe.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's pretty amazing knowing that I'm not getting chlorine into my skin, because when you breathe in all that steam, it's not necessarily just water, it's chemicals and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:It's bad. One of my favorite tiktoks is this guy pretending like he's talking to an alien. An alien comes down and he's like, oh so water is is the thing that you need the most to survive and it comes from the sky and the guy's like. The other guy's like yeah, and he's like and sometimes you hate when the water comes down from the sky. And it's like, yeah, we are hate when the water comes down from the sky and it's like, yeah, we are so lucky that water comes down from the sky and it's so important for us. And we don't think about it.
Speaker 1:We like just completely take good water for granted.
Speaker 2:There's another setting on there. That's plant water. It's pretty much like rainwater, like if you have a comparison of filling it with tap and then your water. So I just had to add that in because I forgot that one. And then we have, uh, it's called UConn. It's a turmeric supplement. There's tea soap and the supplement helps with inflammation.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't want to get too into detail because I don't know all of the exact facts on that. I'm not a professional and I didn't write it down, but it helps with inflammation. I mean, that's like the main thing and a lot of people are sick from being inflamed. And then the newest product which I actually don't have yet I plan to get it very soon because it's amazing is it's called the EmGuard. It protects EMF. What's EMF or no? It's an EMF protection. So emf, what's emf? Uh or no? It's an emf protection.
Speaker 2:So it basically cuts out any radiation you have in your room. I've tested it. Like your earbuds, you're frying your brain. I still wear them because I'm not perfect. But yeah, you, there's a tester. That's just like you put it on your phone. It's like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, and it's just high numbers when you plug that thing in zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. So your TV microwave which microwaves are terrible anything that's plugged in your Wi-Fi, your TV, you know everything. It cuts out all that radiation and that helps you sleep better, feel better, like all all of the things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, health related yeah, sounds like it's a really cool company. Yeah, I've been drinking um at night before bed, like macadamia milk with some turmeric and cinnamon and all spice and all all this different stuff and that has been helping me sleep really good getting that tumor again oh yeah, for sure what else do you like about the company?
Speaker 2:um, I mean I love that they have a 500 year plan. So a lot of companies out there nowadays which are MLMs this is not um they're changing their business models or just completely shutting down and this is going to be going on for another 500 years. Yeah, um, it's patent. Uh, I mean, it's a direct sales company. And the best way to explain it in a nutshell. It's kind of set up like a realtor would be just different.
Speaker 2:Like you sign up or you order your products and then the people who you sign up, you train them so they can go on their own. That's pretty much what it is all about, because eventually, the person you sign up, you get technically cut off from earning from them and then later on down the road, once they reach certain ranks, then you still get a bonus, but you're the one that mentors them to help them get to where they want to go to. Kind of like it is in reality. It's not an MLM. There's no starting over every month, there's no inventory. They just have a huge mission on helping people become healthier and wealthier. Really, um, there is willable income. Once you reach a certain rank, you get five grand for a month, for the rest of your life, and then 10 grand, and then 20 grand up to $80,000, which honestly, I don't need that, but it's possible um, for the rest of your life, and you can make it willable to your kids, to your grandkids.
Speaker 1:That's so cool. Sounds like they really care about helping people.
Speaker 2:It's insane, like super insane, and I I got to go, like two weeks ago ish, to actually see what it was all about. And it's a global company. There's people from literally everywhere there, from Japan, because it's originated in Japan, and that is a blue zone.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you're familiar with those. Yeah, love blue zones. The guy that wrote the book actually went to school with, um, my nephew's father-in-law, dick. Yeah, okay, he was from. Yeah, he went to school in minnesota I forget what city, but yeah, I've been looking into the blue zones a lot. It's, um, those specific areas in the country where people live over 100 years old.
Speaker 2:There's not too many, there's like what, like 10 to 15. I saw a documentary on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched some Netflix stuff on it.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, but yeah, we also make a minimum of $350 to $8,000 per sale. Obviously, it doesn't start out at $8,000. Yeah, you just got to work your way up and I mean you get residual income. It's insane how like I don't even know how it's legal, and we always ask ourselves our team members, how is this even legal? We're living life, getting healthy, making an abundance of money is possible.
Speaker 1:It's just a matter of finding the right vehicle, and I found it.
Speaker 2:What's the biggest difference between this company and Beachbody that you like I guess you don't have to technically, I don't know, man there's so huge difference. It's not an MLM, so it's like you're not starting over, you're not asking your family and friends exhausting that um, which we have a system to, where we attract people who are interested in what we have to offer, people who are looking to get out of what they're trying to get out of, either it be the 9 to 5 or to be a stay-at-home parent, whatever it might be, and we can actually do that. It's not making $20, $100 every now and then it's making thousands of dollars every month, versus, like I said up to. I think like, even if you're top dog in an MLM, you're making maybe $10,000 a month, but like, not even Like you have to work your ass off. You have to have 600 conversations.
Speaker 2:I should have wrote that down. 600 conversations, I should have wrote that down. But, like, 600 conversations, about half of them are going to like, be interested, and you're only going to get like 10 of them, versus you have 10 conversations and one will make or break your. I don't know if that's exactly right, but something along those lines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so do you have a link we'll be able to put in the show notes? Have a. What A link.
Speaker 2:I do not have a link because we don't do it that way. You can't just go to my website and buy stuff. It's not like that, okay. So we have systems, the mentorship that I have. We have a system and we help you. Most people finance the products because people don't have that amount of money laying around. I am one of them.
Speaker 2:Most people get either a credit card or a loan, because they range from about $6,000 to $20,000 depending on what package you start with, and a lot of people go for the business side, so it makes more sense to them to get a loan or a credit card, and of course you could just buy a product and not work the business, so that can just be kind of decided on if you have cash or not on hand a little bit easier.
Speaker 1:But so what's the biggest difference in your body that you've felt since you?
Speaker 2:personally, I've always been a little bit healthy. Um, I don't get period cramps anymore. I still get my period, of course, on a regular basis, but that's one huge thing. I feel like I have a lot more energy. Um, I feel more hydrated. I don't get headaches. I never really have been a person to get headaches but I maybe get like one migraine a year and I don't know why, where it comes from. But, that's what it's helped me with my skin is not dry other than winter in Minnesota.
Speaker 2:That's it for me personally, but other friends of mine they don't get headaches anymore, they don't get migraines. They, their skin is clear, like if they have eczema or whatever. I think eczema is like one of the main things that a lot of people clear up and a lot of acne. There's so many different testimonials I could share about, but like common ones are headaches, like that's a huge thing because they're chronically dehydrated and they don't know it. I had a friend who almost went septic because she was dehydrated and she's like how is that possible? I drink like a gallon a day and it's not the right water. She yeah, she almost like died because she was so dehydrated, amongst other things too, but that was like the main thing and I'm like okay, she started drinking the water and now she's great and her son's don't have migraines either and she's crazy, it's the only thing they switched.
Speaker 1:I started taking Celtic salt in the morning, just a couple pieces. That's helped me stay a little more hydrated. I have some of that in my house. I don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom anymore since I started drinking it or eating it. Yeah, just like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1:I know what you're talking about on that, yeah, yeah, cool, anything else you want to say about it? I don't know. Yeah, cool, anything else you want to say about it?
Speaker 2:I don't know, there's so much, but I'm not going to speak about it all.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you don't really drink. You have on and off, but I feel like you've always kind of shied away. Mm-hmm. Recently.
Speaker 2:So I'll try to make this a long story short. So I'll try to make this a long story short. Uh, I haven't drank anything now recently for about five ish months, and before that it was maybe like one to two times a month. So I cut way back, uh, because I mean, yeah, I partied all the time and wasted a lot of my life partying. I mean, I'm sure you can relate to whatever besides that fact, um, I knew that I wanted to get back into this business and I was in a relationship as well that wasn't serving me.
Speaker 2:It was very toxic and I never wanted to go home, like ever. Of course my son was there, so I wanted to see him, but I just didn't want to go home. So, me working at a bar, I stayed and drank off like probably half the time that I worked, and it was a good time. I probably should have gotten in trouble a lot of those times, but I for some reason did not. Thank you, lord um, once he finally got out of the house, I was home. Every day I wanted to go home. I felt more at ease, I loved being home and even when I didn't have my son, like because we did every other week, one week on, one week off, I was still home because I wanted to be home. I had stuff to do, like finally to get stuff done your home became a place you wanted, yeah yeah and yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:And then I started to do the business, and a little bit more. I had a little bit more time, not really. I started with an hour a day, which still didn't feel like enough. Um, and then I'm like, how do I even have time to drink? Like no wonder why my business wasn't moving because I was doing stupid stuff. And I finally realized like all right, all these people who are succeeding aren't really drinking and doing dumb stuff and they're actually, you know, prioritizing their health a little bit more. And I'm like, all right, I guess I'm done. I mean, it was a no brainer, you've gone through big spurts before.
Speaker 1:I feel like even in the last 10 years you yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean it got me in trouble, though, once I went back to drinking. I'm being a dummy and I've gotten two D dubs in my last like 15, in the last 15 years. It's been almost 10 years since my most recent one, so that's a plus. Yeah, it's just not worth it at all.
Speaker 1:I never saw you drink too often, but you were sassy oh yeah, you were a sassy drunk for sure.
Speaker 2:Did you black out? I have maybe like twice in my life that other than just passing out.
Speaker 1:Pass. Passing out and blacking out are different. Did you ever start and say you were only going to have a couple and then you'd have more?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's always just one more and one more, and one more.
Speaker 1:Have you tried to quit for good before? No, not for good.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know if I'm for good done. I might have a couple if I'm out, like on vacation or something. But I don't see myself like, oh my gosh, I live for alcohol, I can't wait to drink like I don't crave it, even working in a bar.
Speaker 1:I'm like, all right, what up, I don't care yeah, because you think you've replaced it with this job. Yeah, it's this meaningful job. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:I have to get stuff done, oh yeah, and when you're drinking it slows you down, your mind isn't clear, like I mean, you know yeah, and I'm happy for you to have Gunnar at the age five and for you to be in this mind state, because I would do anything to go back and not drink at all. When James was growing up, I didn't drink his last year of high school and nothing bad had ever happened. But just to be that clear, to wake up every morning, and feel great, it's really exciting, yeah, it feels good, to feel good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm glad that you got out of the toxic energy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's still pretty toxic in a way, just a different way. Working on all that, I'll share that another time, Don't want to get into it today. I mean it's not really all my stuff to share. Let's just say it's very expensive right now.
Speaker 1:What's that mean it?
Speaker 2:means a father's trying to mess my life up. So yeah, that's where that stands, but I don't think it's going to happen. It can't happen.
Speaker 1:How did you get to where you are right now? How did I get to where I'm at right?
Speaker 2:now I just decided. I made a decision when I was still kind of slowly weaning off alcohol on my excruit. I signed up again for my business and I decided, hey, let's train for a marathon. And I did 75 hard recently too. I just didn't do the outside workout so I technically didn't do it fully.
Speaker 1:Frowned upon again leaving a kid in your house unattended, yeah so you also replaced it with working out yeah, more yeah and reading and listening to podcasts, and I mean you just changed everything. Yeah, how often were you drinking before, five months ago?
Speaker 2:just not often yeah, but when the father was still living there, probably at least two to five times a week. Yeah, whether it was one or two or ten, it wasn't ten every time. So, yeah, and then, of course, the people you surround yourself with.
Speaker 2:Two matters um, yeah, you said that yeah, going home after work was it got easier after time? But also your friend circle. Like I have a lot of alcoholic friends and I mean being around them. Now I don't care, it's easier, I just say no or just not go anywhere, which is a lot easier. Um, and then the negative people you know, because there are. I mean, I love my people who drink and whatnot, but there's a time frame to be around them.
Speaker 1:And yeah, what kind of people do you look for now? People who?
Speaker 2:are going somewhere in life and knowing that there's a lot more out there than just the nine to five, the traditional nine to five Um people are who are trying to get like out of the matrix, Um, you don't have to go to college, you don't like? There's other options, you can go to college. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but there's more out there that a lot of people don't see, especially back in the day. I mean, social media wasn't around then, but now it is and there's so many more opportunities.
Speaker 1:And some people maybe crave the nine to five structure. I think that's great. I have never been good with structure and fitting inside boxes, never been good at following directions with cooking. Um, I had. My last nine to five job was at Lakes and Pines, so it was like kind of for that county and um, it was New Year's Eve and I decided that I wanted to manifest another job, not really look for one. So I wrote down the three things that I wanted in a job where more flexible hours, because if I wanted to take off for a doctor's appointment for James, I had to put in that request two weeks ahead of time so it just felt like why am I living in this cage?
Speaker 1:So I wrote down that I wanted to have more flexible hours, more music, because there's this music playing above my desk but you could just barely hear it, so it was like a tease. And then I wanted more money. So more money, more music and more flexible hours, and I put that note in a drawer on.
Speaker 1:New Year's Eve and didn't look at it ever again. And on Valentine's Day, so two and a half months later, february 14th, my brother called and said hey, do you want to come work for me? And you'll be driving around Minnesota and Wisconsin talking to people about putting billboards on their property and it was more money. He said I could do it whatever hours. I wanted some more flexible hours and I would obviously listen to music while I'm driving around.
Speaker 1:So it was like that's how it's manifest you have to tell the universe what you want. Stop thinking about it, because if you're desiring it all the time, then you're in the state of desire, which isn't in the state that the universe likes to give. You're in the state of receiving, and so I always remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100% I agree. Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what else? What other lessons have you learned?
Speaker 2:Fear is a liar. If you want to do something, just do it.
Speaker 1:Actually, when you have the fear, that's when you're supposed to run towards it.
Speaker 3:Right, that's how you know that's a thing when you're supposed to run towards it.
Speaker 1:Right, that's how you know that's a thing that you're supposed to do yeah, and then not caring what other people think.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's your life. Obviously, if you're doing negative things, that's one thing. Opinions are always nice to hear, but when you're actually trying to do something for yourself, don't let people get in the way. It's hard to do that, especially if they are family, though. Yeah, but just do it. That goes back to the just do it do it anyway do it for you. Um, there was another thing I was going to say too. If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Speaker 1:I hear that all the time and it still stands by me a lot, yeah, and we have to be put in uncomfortable situations to change. Last weekend I slept in my car watching the storm and there was two times where I was uncomfortable and when I changed instantly I had a better view. Or I got woken back up Like I had a cramp in my foot and I was like, oh, why do I have to have this cramp? But it made me like wake back up to be able to watch the storm again.
Speaker 1:So it was like I was just laughing and talking to God, like look at you just instantly showing me how you, making me uncomfortable, made change happen right away.
Speaker 2:And so on every scale of that. Oh yeah, For sure. Another one most people aren't willing to do what it takes to live the life that they actually really, truly want, Like the 1% does it.
Speaker 1:So it's like what are you guys doing If you're waking up and working out or taking a cold plunge, like you're doing more than 99% of the people out there? So it's those simple little things.
Speaker 2:Just one day at a time, really. You don't have to do everything all at once either Definitely.
Speaker 1:You posted on Facebook yesterday real growth it starts when you stop needing to be right all the time. The truth is, staying stuck, and I already know, keeps you from leveling up, being open, being teachable. Even as adults, we're still students of life. Yeah, I think that's so true. I've never thought that I was right or that I know everything, so that's an easy one for me. And it's just mind-blowing when you meet people who don't want to learn. Yeah, and they believe so hard what they believe.
Speaker 2:One-sided for sure it's their way or no other way, and it's like dude. No, have an open mind. You can still have your opinion, but be open to hearing what somebody else has to say, and some people are not like that at all. It's crazy. Yeah, definitely, and sad to say the least.
Speaker 1:What do you do right now that you hope your grandkids do when they're your age?
Speaker 2:Be patient, because a lot of people do not have patience nowadays and it's crazy. People want stuff right now and also just to live, and I mean embrace everything, really soak it all in, because time is it goes by way too fast, and say yes to more things, but also say no to you know the wrong. Say no to the what. What's the how should I say that it's okay to say no sometimes?
Speaker 1:well, maybe it's following your intuition. Yeah, like be strong enough to say no when you, yeah when it's not right for you, which is a hard thing to do sometimes because I'm a people pleaser.
Speaker 2:I've been working on it, though I don't have to go to every birthday party, I don't have to go to every wedding or every this, every that.
Speaker 1:I so admire the people that say no. It's like, yeah, I didn't need to see the movie yes man, I am a yes man person. I need to see the no man person. It's like say no more, yeah, and like I think about like on some Saturdays I should block off like six hours of like stuff to do at home, because if my calendar is open and somebody asks me to do something I'm like yep, yeah, sure, but if I saw on my calendar that I was full having me time, then I would probably stick to taking care of myself more, no matter what it is, whether it's just sleeping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, laying in bed and the patience goes with the presence, which has been my biggest theme this week is like when I walk home from work because I'm able to just walk.
Speaker 3:I'm always on my phone like looking through emails, text messages, opening Snapchat.
Speaker 1:It's like stop, just walk home, just be in the moment and stop trying to multitask. I mean, this is something I'm going to preach, probably for the rest of my life, because it's something that I need to learn, which is stop trying to do two things at once. Really live in the present moment. Don't listen to music and take a shower. Just listen to, just be in the shower. Don't listen to a podcast and wash the dishes. Just watch, wash the dishes. Um, what president was it that I just heard? He read a book every single day, a whole book, yeah, and it's like I think time is such a paradox and if you think that you don't have enough time, like me, I'm constantly rushing, trying to do a million things, and then I never have enough time.
Speaker 1:So I'm really trying to get into that Zen mode of like if I believe there's enough time and that I never have enough time. So I'm really trying to get into that Zen mode of like if I believe there's enough time and that I don't ever have to rush and I can speak and make eye contact with every person that passes me in the hallway at work, you know, then maybe there will be enough time. Because how did this president find enough time to?
Speaker 2:read a book every single day, like that's crazy Time blocking if you have a calendar, like you said, you just got to do it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you always find enough time to do the things that you really want. Just like a drug dealer finds a way to find the money to buy the drugs, if you really want to do it, you're going to do it. So what do you do that you hope your grandkids don't do?
Speaker 2:Don't do? I mean, I definitely want them to explore things on their own. I don't honestly know. Don't be a dumbass.
Speaker 1:I don't know how do you define a dumbass.
Speaker 2:I guess don't surround yourself with the wrong people. But then again it's like you don't know until you really know, and once you do know, then you know not to.
Speaker 1:But it's okay to step away from people.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:When you're young, you think people are going to be with you till you're old, and it's this fantasy dream of always being close. But that's such a part of being an adult. Nobody said it was going to be this hard and you got to find the right people to be around you.
Speaker 2:Yeah oh yeah, otherwise I don't know. I mean, don't pay attention to everything that the news says is a huge thing right. I have it on in the background sometimes and it's just like what is going on. It's whether to believe it or not. I mean, I don't believe half of it.
Speaker 1:to me it's a reality tv show. I mean, who's making money off of this? The media? And I don't ever watch reality TV, it's just never interested me.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1:Anything else you can think of that you want to talk about.
Speaker 2:The other one that I had was just don't stay in a relationship that's weighing you down or holding you back from the real, true potential that you might have, or any friend to any relationship really be around people that make you feel light and energized yeah, and know that you're worth it.
Speaker 1:It's so hard when you're stuck in it, though, like how long were you in this relationship for?
Speaker 2:I mean, we were on and off for five years. It was red flags right at the beginning, but I didn't see him until later. Um, not that he's a bad person, it's just we weren't meant to be yeah, and that's just gonna cause so much friction.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when was the first so red flags in the beginning, like two months, yeah and I'm not perfect.
Speaker 2:By golly, I'm not perfect, so it's not just. I'm not blaming anything on him. It's both of us for sure, but we were just not meant to be together.
Speaker 1:My last relationship was two years long, and after two months of dating is when I started seeing red flags too but, just completely ignored it because I had been single for seven years before that.
Speaker 1:So I was like this is just what they call compromise this is just like I have to learn to be in a relationship again. This is all my fault. Compromise this is just like I have to learn to be in a relationship again. This is all my fault. I need to just try harder to be used to this new reality. And my back started breaking out and it had never in my life before.
Speaker 3:By the time we broke up after two years, I was breaking.
Speaker 1:no, like before we broke up I was breaking out all the way down my arms past my elbows and a month after we broke up it all went away. My body was completely clear. So it was like not only was my brain screaming this isn't healthy but my entire body was trying to tell me that this wasn't okay. And I was not listening, because it felt so nice to have somebody around to do things with and not have to make all the decisions by myself. And I mean he took really good care of me, did my laundry and my dishes, took care of my dog, helped let me talk about work for hours every single night. But then when it came to me having an idea, it was never a good idea. Or if I was trying to cook something in the kitchen, he would come in and just take over and I'd be like, okay, nevermind, and all these small things. And it wasn't until after we broke up that I started seeing on TikTok about narcissists and realized like, oh, that wasn't just me Like oh that's what was happening.
Speaker 1:Oh whoa, light bulb, light bulb, light bulb. And then my first thought was I got out. What about all these women that are like stuck because they have kids or financial problems? Like it's mind blowing. So, yeah, I spent a lot of time looking into narcissism.
Speaker 2:No, I yep. It's crazy Sad that women are like stuck in stuff like that and men, yeah, men, oh, yeah, for sure Women are nuts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, definitely stuff like that. And men, yeah, men, oh yeah for sure, women are nuts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely. So what advice do you have? To get out, um, I mean, definitely go to therapy yourself. I never have, but I know I need to talk to people and figure out your exit plan. Don't do it just to stay there because you don't think you can, because you can get out, or don't stay because you think you have to, because you don't have to so if a friend came to you right now and they were stuck in this relationship, what would you do to help and what I was stuck in?
Speaker 2:tell them to get out of. Do to help and what I was stuck in. Tell them to get out of here. I mean, that's what I had to do. I had to push and push and push because we were in the same house and of course I have a heart and I feel bad, but we're all adults Got to figure it out.
Speaker 1:I'm a figure outer, so yeah, they're great at making you feel guilty and you're the one to save them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything's my fault too, by the way, everything, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:It's both of us, but did you start to get convinced that things were your fault A little bit, because of course, a lot of people do get manipulated into that.
Speaker 2:A little bit, but not all the way, because I knew that some of it definitely wasn't my fault.
Speaker 1:Some of it was. I think recording conversations can help, because then you can look back and be like yeah, see, this is where you're gaslighting me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Definitely did some of that Not enough.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, but I don't know yeah, anything else you want to talk about, I don't think so. Okay, awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, next time we'll get more into it okay, yeah, oh, I'm open for that because there's a new relationship ooh give us a little detail.
Speaker 1:Nope, okay. But yes, you're going to have to come back on and prove to us that this is a healthy one. Okay, well, all righty, it will be. It is Good. Good Sounds great. Thanks, tanya, you're welcome. Thank you Not. Comes from the Greek word sailor and means voyager or traveler. Like an astronaut searching the stars, a supernaut is one searching the inner and outer worlds of self, navigating life, consciousness and reality, striving for betterment. The paradox is that seeking and striving can create more unrest and more unhappiness. So, while calm seas may not make great sailors, no-transcript.