Supernaut
Supernaut is a podcast about spirituality, sobriety, and the spectrum of self. Hosted by Beth Kelling, this show explores what it means to seek clarity, connection, and personal truth in a world that rarely slows down.
Since beginning her sobriety journey in 2020, Beth has been diving deeper into spiritual practices, emotional honesty, and all the beautiful, messy layers of identity.
Each episode opens the door to conversations about healing, growth, creativity, intuition, and everything in between — because who we are isn’t fixed, it’s a spectrum.
Beth will be joined by guests who share their own stories, perspectives, and spiritual paths — offering insight, inspiration, and the occasional cosmic detour.
Whether you’re sober-curious, spiritually inclined, or just looking to feel a little more human, you’re in the right place
Supernaut
Sober Choices & Bold Moves: Jenn’s Not Taking the Easy Way Out
What does it take to step away from alcohol for an entire year? Jenn Larson knows firsthand. Her journey began with an emotional breaking point and evolved into one of the most transformative years of her life—complete with marathons, triathlons, and multiple job promotions.
But Jenn's story isn't just about achievement. It's about confronting the profound loneliness that can accompany sobriety and the surprising challenge of maintaining boundaries once that predetermined year ended. With refreshing perspective, she reveals how alcohol slowly crept back into her life despite all the benefits she experienced without it.
Our conversation weaves through Jenn's remarkable life story. From being the only girl on a boys' hockey team after starting a petition that initially garnered 90 signatures (though only three girls showed up for practice) to her spontaneous move to Brazil after Brexit derailed her plans to relocate to England. Throughout her life, Jenn has embodied boldness and determination, traits that served her well during sobriety but also created a rigid finish line mentality that complicated her relationship with alcohol afterward.
We dive deep into the neuroscience of addiction, exploring how our brains fight against us through homeostasis when we try to break established patterns. Jenn articulates beautifully how alcohol robs us not just of time and money, but of something far more precious—our confidence and self-trust. The morning-after spiral of "What did I say? What did I do?" gradually erodes our relationship with ourselves.
Whether you're sober-curious, struggling with moderation, or simply interested in understanding how alcohol might be affecting your potential, this episode offers both compassionate insight and practical wisdom. As Jenn poignantly states when asked what freedom means to her: "Not thinking about alcohol, not being tied down to obligations I didn't set for myself, and having great relationships with many people from many walks of life."
Ready to examine your own relationship with alcohol? Listen now and consider what chains might be holding you back from living your boldest life.
0:00 Welcome to Supernaut
2:15 The Emotional Impact of "Waves"
2:40 Born to Perform
4:25 Hockey Trailblazer
8:20 Living Boldly Abroad
11:36 The Year of Sobriety
19:40 The Confidence Connection
24:40 Tools for Realizing Potential
33:14 Words That Define Jen
Welcome to Supernaught, where we explore the inner and outer worlds of self. My guest today is Jen Larson. Jen moved from a small town in Minnesota to New York City when she was 18 and hasn't stopped doing hard things since. What song did you pick for us to listen to before we started Mr Probs' Waves, and why did you pick that?
Speaker 2:I have to say I'm a little emotional right now, but if you've ever listened to the lyrics, you're drifting away, you're getting farther. Today we're gonna be talking about sobriety. I'm sorry, I will calm down when we get a little more into it. It was super emotional because the song is about isolation and Going down that rapid hole. Of alcohol can make you feel very isolated, and I feel like it used to help me feel connected and now it's just gotten me in a place that's very lonely, and so that song just really brings that out.
Speaker 1:For me, the line that stuck out to me this time was I try and make you love me and, like you had said, this song usually might be about a relationship with another person, but you feel it with alcohol and I can totally see how alcohol is like a spirit in itself and it is trying to get us to love it. Maybe, maybe it's lonely itself and it needs people and that's why it tries to suck us oh, totally like yes needs to go into there.
Speaker 2:But I actually even take that to. I wish it would be make it easier to love me as a person.
Speaker 1:But with alcohol in my life.
Speaker 2:it's harder to love me Friends, partners, family. You think it gets you closer to something, but it only drives a wedge farther in between and you drift away. It's an emotional song for me.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, let's talk about something else for a little bit and then we'll get into the sobriety. Cool, let's get your mind off of it, go ahead. So you were a born performer you and your sisters. I feel like you're. I wasn't ever in your house, but I feel like it had a very little woman-y vibe growing up. You guys were always doing skits and plays, yes, yeah. So where do you think that came from, this, um, born performing soul that you have?
Speaker 2:You know, I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 1:Like, everything's a show, uh can you remember the first time you felt like, oh, like this is what I'm going to do with my life. Or, like you know, have the essence of so I always wanted to experience everything.
Speaker 2:Um, I remember when I was younger and it used to snow in Minnesota, uh, I'd go out in the backyard and you know we'd build forts and everything and I trudged through the snow with my dog, gimpy, who had three legs and she was such a real trooper with me and we would go exploring through Alaska or in the frontier.
Speaker 1:You know that whole role playing and I feel like through performing, you got to be all these different things so do you remember like the first movie you watched or play that you saw, that you were like, yes, this is wire well, um, I was obsessed with, uh, making the band with O-Town and I'm like that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2:I want to be in a boy band and yeah, like that. Just there was an obsession there. And then watching the Spice Girls. Like I just want to be a part of that, traveling and living on the road and inspiring other people and, yeah, being that light.
Speaker 1:Awesome, yeah. So your sisters talked about, when I told them you were coming on, um, you know, and what topics we could bring up. They talked about just how brave and adventurous you are. Um, so, yeah, wanting to be in a boys band. You were in boys hockey, or was there any other girls on the hockey team there?
Speaker 2:were well. So I first started a petition because we needed a petition at one age people uh 16 to be able to get the girls on the guys team legally. And so uh started. The petition got over 90 names of girls saying that they would join the team and then, when it came to the beginning first day of practice, two others had showed up. So there's three of us total and one dropped out the second week in dry land training and I remember it was super tough. We were running through the halls, we were lifting weights and I remember when we were running through the halls at one point I ran into the bathroom, threw up and there was another girl in there and she's like Are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine, rinse, rinse. And just ran out of there and just kept up with everyone and then we went to the ice and I think two weeks on the ice. Then the other girl quit and I was there by myself the rest of the season. I wanted to quit but I wasn't going to. What kept you going?
Speaker 1:I had to represent girl. Yeah, you went around and got all these people the petition, so you just couldn't back out now is that you remember?
Speaker 2:thinking that at that age I was thinking I'm not going to be a quitter. Like us, girls are trying to make something and if we all quit now, then it's never gonna happen. So, like I will push through, I will persevere, I will do this and it was very difficult. Um, I was bullied a lot on the ice, uh, as well as in school. I used to really like school my junior year. I didn't like school. I missed a lot of school, but I got through that season with two assists, a goal and a penalty.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Awesome. And it was cool because both my parents were anti, but by the time we were at the end they were cheering me on.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. What do you do when people try and diminish your light? I think that's one of my struggles but you've been doing it for so long. You put yourself in these hard positions in high school that other people would never put themselves through see, I guess I don't think if it is hard it just needs to be done. If somebody tells you, or if you decide you want to do something, that's something, and something is telling you to do something. So then you're like I just got to do it.
Speaker 2:I just got to do it. Um, I think a good example of that is I lived abroad in Brazil for a year. I never dreamed of doing something like this. I dreamed of living abroad. That was my goal and it was supposed to.
Speaker 2:Well, the plan was that I had created, uh, moved to England with my job, transferring me because they have headquarters over there, and I was told this was going to happen. Like everything was great, it was all happening. I got rid of all of my stuff in New York. I just had like two suitcases and my bicycle I was going to bring over to someone's house to hold on to for me, and they said that the working visa wouldn't go through because at that time it was Brexit. So then I didn't have an apartment, like I didn't have anything, because I was moving to england. Um, so, uh, I talked to my ex-partner and she had some family in brazil and I'm like I guess I'm moving to brazil and I took a crash course in portuguese and I arrived and I'm kind of like I don't even know how I did it, but it was amazing.
Speaker 1:You're like bringing up all these hard things that I've done? Yeah, moving to New York at 18 too. Did your family think you were crazy?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, and all of your friends.
Speaker 1:I was 21 when I moved to Chicago and I can remember two people being supportive in my life. Not everybody was unsupportive, but they just didn't have anything to say about it. Two people said, wow, that's cool, I had a lot of friends.
Speaker 2:I totally understand that. I will say like my mom and dad did drive me out there, so I think that's a certain way of being supportive, right, not crazy about it. My older sister, becky love you, Becky, but I'm. She has told me you won't make it out there. You won't make it out there Like to this day.
Speaker 1:I feel so proud when I say that Um, but I didn't look back At that age, did you think maybe I should listen to everybody and not do this? Or were you just like, no, I'm doing it. Like I'm just so yeah.
Speaker 2:It was the plan. It was the plan. And I remember when my parents were leaving, I was scared, I was excited, but I was scared, but I was scared and someone the guy I sat next to uh, comforted me or just like became like my friend at orientation and it just kind of all happened and I never looked back. And I think that's what's special about it too is, as you get older, things aren't as easy. I did just recently move. Why do they get harder?
Speaker 1:though. Why do they get harder? They should be getting easier. You've been doing hard things your whole life, but it does seem like they get harder. Oh, totally. I think you're so excited to be in the house and now, when there's so many more responsibilities, or you understand insurance and taxes and all the things where that's what makes it scarier, yeah, and you're like getting I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think part of the reason why I get emotional, and everything too, is I always say this what have I done with my life? And as you get older, you're running out of time.
Speaker 1:When you're younger, oh, you're having a great time. Time well, I think you've done so many great things in your life. Another really hard thing was um going to Vegas sober with your sisters yes they thought that that was super hardcore of you. So let's get into the year of sobriety. That was in that year. Yeah, so that was in that year. Yeah, so that was in 2016. And so what, um, what led up to this decision to go a year?
Speaker 2:So there were two things, um, and I really never talked about them. They both happening. I don't know which one happened first, but they happened within like two weeks of each other, but they happen within like two weeks of each other. And one was my friend, kira and I. We were having a night out and kind of at the end of the night she's like Chen, you're no fun when you drink like this or whatever. And I'm thinking who the hell are you, kira? You drink just as much as me. So he's angry, but I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2:Then two weeks later, um brought some friends over from the bar. Uh, kind of like went in, went in my room. Then it was just like me and a guy and I ended up inviting my roommate over to hang out with us too. And then this guy and I like started fooling around and getting intimate and stuff like that. And then the roommate just like walked in and he's like Jen, what the hell? And I was super embarrassed and I'm just like I have to, something's got to give. So after that I think that was around the end of July I said I'm going to give myself a month to kind of get it together, make the preparations, and September 1st I started my year and there were people, again not extremely supportive, like are you sure you want to do that? Maybe you should try for three months, or you know, maybe you should just have like one a night, or whatever. And I'm like, no, this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:But before those two instances had you been contemplating it Like, oh, maybe I should try a year. Or was it again Like I'm you?
Speaker 2:as soon as you made this decision you were like I'm doing this there is, there's always in the back of your head, like I had taken a trip to San Francisco a month before that had a blast, but like totally straight, stayed out with a stranger one night and, you know, did things that when you look back you're like not the best decision in the world and again you're young, you don't think about these things or they don't have such a big impact than when you're an adult, when you hear more horror stories yeah, and why I kind of agreed to come in here and be vulnerable today is, I know hearing other people being vulnerable and sharing their stories have helped me, so I'm hoping to help other people too so how hard was it like?
Speaker 1:so you decide to go a month, you make it a month, and when did you decide to go longer?
Speaker 2:oh no, so, um, I decided august 1st. So the drama unfolded the end of july and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna give myself the month of august to prepare, kind of yep, mentally prepare, do some research, figure out I'm gonna get into this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, and September 1st, you know, I begins the year, okay, so was there any moments in those first couple months? You almost quit quitting.
Speaker 2:Oh, quitting wasn't an option. I'm sure that's what got me through. I was gritting my teeth a lot. I was angry. I was angry at myself. I was angry that I craved. I was angry that I was just in this position that I have to get through. But I wouldn't give up and I have to say it starts to get better for me around six months. Then it was like I was just kind of learning to live with it. It was one of the most amazing years of my life. I got in great shape. I ran the New York City Marathon. I did the New York City Triathlon. I was promoted three times at my job. I had a great crew that totally respected me at work my workers, but it was very lonely. So my confidence was great. I looked great in my underwear. I was showing up on time like doing the grind. I mean, I got burnt out of work because I was working 10 12 hours a day. If I would have been drinking never would have happened.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have been able to keep up with it was there something specific that you think you replaced it with, like the running or the working out, or so that's one thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they talk about one of the what you can do to help you get through this is replacing your habit whatever habit it is Right, and so I replaced it with fitness training for everything, and I think that was a good thing, because then I got in great shape and all of that. But I don't think it helped me in the long run because it was just like this is what you're going to do for a year as opposed to like a lifestyle change, like it wasn't sustainable.
Speaker 2:So like knowing that I would have done it a little differently, like how, what would have you done? Um, I think it would have been fitness, but also a hobby, and maybe fitness with a community, because, like I said, when you stop drinking, you don't go out. So I completed the world's most difficult jigsaw puzzle that year as well, and it was difficult because the design was on both sides of the pieces. So, you didn't know where it fit in.
Speaker 1:I just see you Googling world's toughest puzzle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no. So it was amazing Like I have amazing pictures from that year and some of the artwork that I went and saw that like I wouldn't have done. Towards the end of it, I went to a rooftop pool party by myself because no one else. Everyone was like I can't get in a bathing suit in front of all these people and I'm like I look great, I can do this, and of course, there was a bar and a DJ and this whole thing and it really didn't even faze me and my confidence was like through the roof and then just even being there by myself too, um, but yeah, so I would have done more. Uh, like a sport instead of just training, training, training by myself, or like join like a running team or a biking team, and started to build some friendships out of that that makes sense, because I was just kind of like by myself the entire time?
Speaker 1:well, and were you having social anxiety? Because a lot of us drank to fit in more and like have better conversations, better conversations. So at first was it like hard to have conversations and be yourself, or did it feel like it?
Speaker 2:To be honest, I was just like so focused on work because I was just working all these long hours and then I was like going home and working out, so like that wasn't something that was like huge for me Okay.
Speaker 1:So after the year, how did your relationship with alcohol change? Like you started drinking again. Did you have better boundaries for yourself? Did you just dive back in and go crazy?
Speaker 2:It slowly got worse. I mean, like so it wasn't bad at the beginning, right? I wouldn't say it took like that. It wasn't bad at the beginning, right? Um, I wouldn't say it took like that long, like less than a year, to then be back to unhealthy or you know, thinking about it more than I want it to be, right. Uh, another thing that I don't know how exactly I would have done this differently, but I know a lot of people they've quit for a year and they're like I feel so great, I'm just gonna keep going where I was. Like I said, I'm doing a year. I got to my year and I'm, like you know, planting the flag on the rock and like showing everyone what I did. But what's interesting is I only showed my family. I didn't announce it on Facebook or really share it with anyone.
Speaker 2:And I'm wondering if that would have helped Be more vocal. That's one thing about me too. I don't just share a lot, and maybe sharing would help with that. I don't know that deeper connection. I mean.
Speaker 1:it only makes sense when you say that right Community and building trust Exactly.
Speaker 2:And other people can celebrate with you. I'm always celebrating by myself because I just keep everything to myself, and then you have an emotional wreck like this yes, you've been holding everything in.
Speaker 1:That's why it's all coming out now.
Speaker 2:So but, um, like when I was doing my year of sobriety, I remember having Thanksgiving over at a friend's house and she was telling me about a horror story that she had like two weeks ago because of alcohol and this and that, and I'm just like that's awful, that awful, I'm just glad you're okay and whatever. And she started to not drink about a month later or two months later, and she told me. She said I saw how great you were doing, I wanted to do it too, like you inspired me. And she did her year and now she's on like year four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I think you're so determined that whatever you say you're going to do, you're going to do it exactly. So that's you know.
Speaker 2:You said you're going to year? Yeah, well, so then that's tough, because I don't want to say forever, do I? You know what I mean? Then it changes, right, like the dynamic of it With your experience. Did you ever want to say forever, like at the beginning, oh gosh, no, right. No, it was super scary, like you were scared to do year one.
Speaker 1:Now I'm ready to, but it took five years of like from when I first decided to quit drinking at home which was crazy huge to when I decided, yeah, I think this will be my last drink forever.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And that was five years. A full year of sobriety in between there, and then for a couple years, only drinking over three, four months. But I still, until that very last one, I still thought, yeah, well, I don't want to stay forever. Forever is scary.
Speaker 2:That's very scary exactly.
Speaker 1:And so what's your relationship with alcohol now?
Speaker 2:Not great, not where I want it, and I think that's partially why I'm getting emotional too. I'm at a place where change needs to happen.
Speaker 1:And to reminisce about how great the year was and you knew you were going to go into. That I'm sure brings up a lot of emotions, because you're admitting how great that year was and you knew you were going to go into. That I'm sure brings up a lot of emotions because you're admitting how great that year was yeah. I mean you did say it was lonely, but um, it sounds like so many great things oh, so many wonderful things, but my life is in a different place right now too now I'm married so love my
Speaker 2:wife, um, and she'll be supportive of you not drinking if you decide to oh she, like even she doesn't really even drink at all, too, she would probably love it. Yeah, um, and so I just moved to a new place. She has lots of friends, so I know everyone would be like supportive. And what's wonderful is none of them know my past, so none of them know my past. So, so none of them know my past, so it's like I'm starting over. Yeah, oh, refresh, start.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean yeah, yeah, like to a certain extent yeah, so that's super exciting. They don't know my history or anything like that, so I can start on the slate that I need to start on.
Speaker 1:That's wonderful.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So how does alcohol hold us back in your opinion, like? In what ways?
Speaker 2:easy stuff robs you of your time, and not only the time that you're drinking, the time, the recovery time. Right, your money, um, but like, your confidence is a huge thing, uh how, so how?
Speaker 1:how do you think alcohol? Because I agree with you 100 and we talked about this the confidence I like put it in bold letters. I'm like yes, but how?
Speaker 2:well. So I guess one easy explanation for that is when the next morning you wake up, what did I do? What did I say? Oh, did I talk to this person? How long did I talk to this person? And that whole stress rabbit hole that you just go down. I know you don't even want to see that person again.
Speaker 1:You spend weeks thinking that they're mad and then you see them and everything's fine. It's like why did I put myself through hell thinking that they were mad? I got so sick of my own voice, Like when I would wake up in the morning and be like I like talked all night. Why didn't people like walk away from me?
Speaker 2:I'm like why didn't you hang up the phone? I'm like you deserve better quality of me. Just hang up the phone, like spare me at the same time, um, and then then like when you're feeling hung over, it's the confidence yeah, it's like I can't do this, or you don't have the energy to be able to have like the right mindset to climb that mountain that you're like determined to climb. That's like so, with the song of drifting away, just drifting farther away from your dreams and confidence comes with trusting yourself.
Speaker 1:And if you're constantly saying I'm only going to have two tonight and then you have 10 like how are you supposed to trust yourself or have disappointment?
Speaker 2:yeah, 100%. So, um, yeah, just, it doesn't help you doing anything that you want to do yeah, what tools and techniques?
Speaker 1:um that, what are some tools and techniques that we can use to help us realize our greatest potential? You talked about that when we were chatting.
Speaker 2:So I think again, replacing the habit with something that is sustainable, that you're enjoy, um, realizing your triggers. Oh girl, the witching hour. At five, six o'clock every night and every morning I'm like I don't need to have a drink tonight. Like five, six o'clock rolls around, um, so I try to keep myself busy during those times um, set up a class or go to the gym a half an hour kind of before. So then I'm like there during that time to set myself up, to then eat dinner and go to bed or whatever needs to happen. Um, people talk about clear, concise goals. I haven't figured that one out yet because clearly I set my goal and then I get to my goal and I'm like well, that's done, moving on to the next one.
Speaker 1:So do you have any thoughts or experience with Well, I'm probably going to start talking about this on almost every episode, but I just finished listening to a podcast with a dopamine expert on Diary of a CEO and I understand dopamine on such a crazy level now just from listening to this. And, like I always heard the term homeostasis but I never understood what it meant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, talk to me.
Speaker 1:So it's like when your brain it's your balance. Yeah, it's your brain trying to balance out. So if you overeat, your brain's trying to figure out how to get hungry again. You know, if you overdo this, your brain is just always trying to get balance. So, dopamine, I'm going to be horrible at explaining anything scientific but, like because I can understand it, I can't really retell it that well, but um you're doing great.
Speaker 2:You're doing great.
Speaker 1:So anytime that you get dopamine, that comes easy, like having a drink, having a smoke um, you're going to have to work for it later through homeostasis, like you're going to have to make up for it through the hangover, through the come down, somehow Anything that you work hard for first, cold plunge, run, meditating.
Speaker 1:You know anything that you have to work for hard first and go down. You're going to get that natural high because homeostasis and like they talk about a lot on the episode how addiction and everything isn't our faults, it's our brains. Like you, it shuts off that. I mean I've talked about this in other episodes too Like your brain shuts off um, when you're trying to make decisions of not having said all it cares about. Your brain is in control, you know a hundred percent, a hundred percent.
Speaker 1:And so when you are thinking, thinking I'm not going to eat that food or I'm not going to have that drink, you're fighting against your brain, the most powerful. Why does my phone keep doing that?
Speaker 2:I did it last time too.
Speaker 1:What was the last thing I said?
Speaker 2:You were talking about homeostasis and the natural high, and your brain just shuts off your brain is just shutting off and it's just trying to get back to balanced.
Speaker 1:So, anyways, that's what I have to say about that. That's what I was thinking about when you were saying, that is, we don't have to be so hard on ourselves.
Speaker 2:I think that's such a wonderful thing to remember.
Speaker 1:When you want something, when you're craving something. Hey, that's just because something kind of triggered me, something kind of made me sad, whether it's conscious or not, and I, my brain, is just trying to get back to homeostasis. So, instead of having the drink, because that's what my reflexes are used to doing, Go, do something different, step out of the matrix, step out of what I'm used to.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent the reflex, the reflex Right, like you just go back to what you know, what you know, and it's like it's breaking that. That takes a lot of effort.
Speaker 1:Yes, it does that. That takes a lot of effort. Yes, it does, and that's why I support with friends and it's talking about it over and over again, like I had been talking about quitting drinking for 15 years before I finally quit drinking at home. So you know, everybody was annoyed with me, I was annoyed with myself, but I think then it finally happened uh-huh so I think, just keep thinking about it, keep talking about it 100% agree. Yeah, and that's why I even wanted to come on here too of like this is part of my healing process.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, and let's get into. I think this can be healing too. I asked you to pick six or seven friends or people I don't even know if they're friends, coworkers, who it was but people that I could reach out to and ask them to describe you in six or seven words. And I started doing this. You're my second guest to do this, but I plan to do it with every guest, and I think we just have such a hard time believing the good things about ourselves. So your words aren't that surprising. You have such a strong personality that I feel like people might think that you really know yourself. But is that true? Do you feel like you know yourself? I would say no, no, but you see what I mean. Like having a strong personality. You would assume like, yeah, she knows who she is, she is confident.
Speaker 2:Comes off with the confidence.
Speaker 1:She knows exactly who she is and how she's showing up for the world.
Speaker 2:But yeah, my mind just work in me instead of me working my mind.
Speaker 1:Beautiful perspective. Um, so do you want to guess what one of your top words was?
Speaker 2:I guess confident. I don't know, I don't know. No, I don't want to guess, I don't want to guess anymore. I know it's so scary?
Speaker 1:Is there a word that you know that you're like? Oh, I know I wouldn't be described as this, but I wish that I was.
Speaker 2:Well, I would think trustworthy. I don't know if that'd be one that they would pick, but I'm very trustworthy and honest and kind yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, let's get into them. All right. So your first word, your main theme, is bold. It came up in so many ways courageous, brave, daring, ambitious, tenacious, driven, determined. You go after you want what you want. Well, that sounds lovely. Thanks everyone. Yeah, so that's what I mean. Not surprising, I mean your sisters too, and they're like, well, she's so adventurous and everything hard that she's done. Second is joyful. You bring magnetic joy to any space with words like funny, good-humored, lively, outgoing, fiery fun, and fiery fun and whimsical.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:And third is warm, which trustworthy would be in there, but people feel safe and loved around you because they said words like caring, supportive, generous, lovable, friendly, warm-hearted. Your fourth word is real, with direct, authentic, open and genuine. Fifth word adventurous. Everybody said adventurous. Yes, perfect. So I asked AI to put all these words together to come up with one sentence that describes you, and it said you're not just strong, you're alive, you're the fire and the foundation Cool.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Beth.
Speaker 1:How are you trying to be here today and hear these things? Good.
Speaker 2:Is there any stories that you tell about yourself, about your life that you want to rewrite? I?
Speaker 1:wouldn't necessarily say so, just my relationship with alcohol. So you're, but that's your forward story. If you don't want to change anything from the past, that's good. Oh, but moving forward now, oh yeah, yeah, um, that's good, that's good. I think a lot of us tell ourselves something like oh, I'm a victim in this way, or this happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's kind of where that question came from. But, yeah, no. So you're content and you're happy with where your life is at. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2:I just want to keep going and break my chains.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, um, what does a life full of freedom mean to you?
Speaker 2:Not thinking about alcohol, um, not being tied down to obligations that I didn't set for myself, kind of having relationships, good, great relationships, with many people from many walks of life to be able to walk with them. Diversity, I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, well. We got a shout out to Gimpy. You already brought him up, your three-legged dog. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, well, we got a shout out to Gimpy, you already brought him up.
Speaker 1:your three-legged dog yeah, I love her. Do you think that now that you're settled in a new spot, maybe it's time to get another animal, or do you think?
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm moving around too much. Moving and grooving girl, yeah, Yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Well, you have all your niece and nephew animals up here. Exactly, yes, I do. Is there anything else you want to say?
Speaker 2:No, just thank you so much for having me, thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 1:It was so great, this therapy session was amazing.
Speaker 2:Seriously, thank you, love you, jen. Thanks Love you too, beth. Oh hug, oh, it was so good.