Simplicity & The Secret Lives of Trees - Andrew Kelling

What if the simplest rule—live one day at a time—could quiet the noise long enough to hear your life speak back? We sit down with my dad, Andrew, to follow that thread from a favorite hymn into the woods, where white oaks feed deer and squirrels and teach us how to trust what’s right in front of us. Nature becomes a mirror: colors of birds, the memory of elephants, and the way a farm turns attention into prayer.

Andrew shares how timing everything once drove his work and drained his peace—bales per hour, minutes per foot massage, always measuring. Patience arrived by practice and by choosing encouragement over critique, even if that meant praising a teenager’s clean ceiling when the floor was chaos. He faced stage fright in a community play and trained his brain with tiny habits like tying the other shoe first. The principle stays simple: fear shrinks when you move toward it, gently and often.

We talk about grief after his brother’s sudden death, the years when faith narrowed to a thin line, and the moment he accepted that not every answer heals. John 3:16 and the promise that no one can snatch us from the shepherd’s hand brought warmth and confidence. A hospital visit led to a psalm for a woman who had never been to church; two days later, she was gone. He calls it listening for nudges and acting with care, one person at a time. There’s practical wisdom too: don’t make decisions when you’re high or low; wait for the middle. Know the difference between needs and wants. Give, save, and ask if the next purchase is a comfort or a calling.

By the end, we circle back to legacy: appreciate people while they’re here, live more relaxed than your clocks suggest, and assume beauty inside the stone. Andrew hopes his grandkids choose gratitude, kindness, and faith—and skip the habit of timing every minute. If you’re hungry for grounded wisdom, quiet courage, and stories that nudge you toward gentleness, this conversation will stay with you.

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0:00 Welcome And The Song Choice

0:21 Living One Day At A Time

0:45  Nature’s Lessons And The White Oak

2:39 Animals, Beauty, And God’s Creativity

3:05 Faith In Nature Versus Church

3:33 Learning Patience And Timing Life

5:36 Encouragement Over Criticism

6:18 Facing Fears Through Community Theater

8:14 Brain Habits And Small Challenges

9:10 Volunteering And Changing Your Attitude

Transcript

Welcome And The Song Choice

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Supernaut, where we explore the inner and outer dimensions of the self. Today I have on my dad, Andrew. I wanted to have him on because his faith is so strong and his guidance is something I think I chose to have in my life before I came. So I asked you to pick a song for us to listen to before we started. What song did you pick?

SPEAKER_03 0:21

One day at a time.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Why did you pick that one?

SPEAKER_03 0:24

Because that's the way I want to live is one day at a time. Not in the past, not much in the future, but just do what I have to do today to, you know.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Mm-hmm. Are you good at living in the moment every day too?

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Uh not as what not as much as I'd like to be.

Nature’s Lessons And The White Oak

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite things about you is your love for nature. Uh, you know so much about trees. What is your favorite tree?

SPEAKER_03 0:52

Oak. The white oak.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Why?

SPEAKER_03 0:56

I like the shape of its leaves and the acorns dropping in the fall. I can hear them whenever I'm out there when they're dropping. And the deer like to come eat them, and the squirrels, they feed a lot of different animals, turkeys, whatnot. And they're tough. Probably one of the toughest trees there is. And I'd like to emulate that a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

What else do you like about nature?

SPEAKER_03 1:21

I like all the animals. Every animal you can think of, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Is elephant still your favorite animal?

SPEAKER_03 1:28

Probably close to it. Close to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

What do you think nature can teach us?

SPEAKER_03 1:35

They can teach us that uh well they just live one day at a time. Most animals, except for squirrels and woodpeckers, both the only ones that store up food. I mean they're totally dependent every day on God. You know, the birds don't store food. They can teach us to to live that way, that one day at a time, you know.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

What does nature teach us?

Animals, Beauty, And God’s Creativity

SPEAKER_03 2:02

What is nature? I just the beauty of it, I guess. The the creativity of God. If I was in charge, I'd probably only have a dozen different kinds of trees where he probably has hundreds or thousands. And same with all the different animals, there's such a wide variety of creative nature is unbelievable. All the different colors. Well, you take all the birds, look at all the different colors of all the different birds, and the stripes on the tigers and the lion's mane, you know, and the sensitivity of the elephant's trunks. Elephants are probably in their mind are probably closer related to us mentally than any other animal. They care, they mourn, they uh remember well, you know, and are sensitive towards taking care of their kids or their young, you know, very protective like we are.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Do you feel closer to God in church or in nature?

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Probably in nature because you only go to church a couple hours a week or you're in nature 24-7. That's why I like it up the farm so much to see all the stuff. You know, there's so much. Sometimes I get carried away driving. I look around too much to see everything, you know, and and uh can't can't let yourself go 100%, you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

In general, looking back at life so far, what do you think life has been trying to teach you?

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Patience. I'm uh impatient. Uh I've gotten a lot better. I used to be everything had to go bing, bing, bing. Now it's going bing bing. And I always time things. I still have trouble not timing everything. But that was my strength at one time with the business, because I knew how long it would take to do stuff. Yeah, I think that's And now I don't need to do that anymore, but I still catch myself doing it.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Yeah. I think that's our ADHD. I think I got that from you. I have to time everything out.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

I mean, even now, every time I move along, I look at my clock and see I'll, you know, time it where I cut hay or bale hay, how many bales an hour I'm baling, and this and that, you know. So and even when I'm rubbing your mom's hands and feet, I kind of time five minutes on each foot or each hand or ten minutes, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

So you've gotten more patient?

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Yes. Way more.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

What do you think has helped you get more patient the most? Just practice.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Just had to. Just had to. Because uh everybody doesn't operate on the same timetable as I do, so I had to learn to readjust myself to other people's time as well, you know. That was the thing that Steve had the hardest time doing the uh program, bidding program. It took him almost a year to do it, and most of it was trying, Dad, how do you figure out how long this stuff takes? And I remember a few times Chad, our salesman, he would say, Two weeks ago you bid this building for$5,700. Now today you got the same identical building and it's$5,900.

Encouragement Over Criticism

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Do you remember when I was in high school, you would come down to my room and uh compliment how clean my ceiling was?

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Why did you do that?

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Well, I I believe in saying positive things to people.

SPEAKER_00 5:43

You couldn't find anything else positive to say about my room.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

I couldn't see anything positive except the ceiling. They're closed and stuff all over.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Yeah. You said you had read somewhere that you're supposed to compliment your children's rooms because that's every day.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

Yeah. A balance, you know. You can't just always say the negative things what the kid and children do wrong. You gotta balance it out. And I try to do that with everybody around the office too. I really don't say anything negative. I go around and pat people on the back. And it's one of my gifts, is in I'm an encourager.

Facing Fears Through Community Theater

SPEAKER_00 6:14

You were in a play a couple years after I graduated. Why did you sign up to be in this play?

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Well, in high school I wanted to do some acting, but I was too shy and too scared. And I like to address things that I am afraid of. So I decided, hmm, that's something that really I'm kind of afraid of, but I I want to address it because I don't want to go through my whole life being wishing I had that. You know, there's some things I won't do. I mean, jump off the Empire State Building. I'm not interested in doing that. It's a fear I have, but some fears you don't want to address. But most of them you do. And I always used to tell myself if somebody else can do it, why can't I? I think I've told you that several times through the years. Remember, I used to encourage you, because I didn't realize that a girl had a little bit of a bit of a disadvantage in our society. Remember, I used to hold up to you, Margaret Thatcher, the premier of uh England, to tell you that, hey, look at there, a woman can be a charge of a country. There's nothing you can't do. Maybe there's physically some things you can't do, but mentally and emotionally there's you can take on anything. And you've proved that.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

So after uh doing the play, what changed? Were you less scared of trying other new things? It was a community play.

Brain Habits And Small Challenges

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Yes. Yeah, it probably helped me do other ones. It doesn't bother me to get up in front now. It used to really bother me, but if I know my material, it doesn't bother me. I mean, like I get up and say stuff at the morning meetings. Remember the Thanksgiving song? There's 20-some guys in there, and I sang the Thanksgiving song to them. You know, I did that in church uh many years before that. So I said to the people in church, I've always wanted to get up in front and sing a song. Now, God gave me this voice and he likes it. If you don't like it, you can take it up with him. So I let myself off the hook. So I got up in front of the church and sang a song.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Very smart. You're always doing stuff to uh uh enhance your brain like that. Like you say that you put on your pair of pants the opposite leg than you naturally want to to work your brain.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Yeah, I've got so I don't remember which one I used to put on first. I still work a little bit at putting uh tying, I always tie my left shoe first, and I've started tying my right shoe first.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Have you tried brushing your teeth on one leg?

SPEAKER_03 8:54

Boy, that's tough to bluff. And I still do it regularly, though, not every time, but most of the time, trying to get better at because my left hand, you know, just it's difficult, but it's good for your brain, I guess.

Volunteering And Changing Your Attitude

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Okay, so do you remember when you started volunteering with the first and second graders? And because you saw an ad in the paper that said the school needed volunteers, so you started volunteering for a few months, then you were going south for the winter, so you asked me to take over. And I remember the advice you told me is that you know, they're kids, you would think that you're gonna like every single kid, but there is some kids that you know you're not gonna like, so it's a good time to practice changing yourself because you can't change them.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

Yeah, I used to put a sign up for Mike that uh you can't change how other people think, but you can change how you think. Yeah, yeah, that was a very So I've always tried to do that, you know, put myself, try to not uh make them think the way I think or get them to change. Because I remember a Pacific one, uh uh what was his name at church that I used to uh I can't remember his name. And I said to your mom one time, Boy, he's changed the last couple of years, and she said to me, Hmm, is it him or you?

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yeah, that was a great lesson for me because you would think, yeah, that you're gonna like all the kids, but there's some kids that you're like, I can tell you're gonna grow up to be like this, or you know, or just rub you the wrong way. But it's such an easier lesson to learn with children because you don't actually want children to change.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

Yeah, and I remember at Brunswick Church during Bible school for the kids, they had a special speaker come in. The first night I thought, what a jerk, what a bum. So I prayed about it. By the end of the week, I liked him. So my attitude changed. He didn't change.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Mm-hmm. All about attitude change and perspective.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Yep.

Splitting Rocks And Seeing Inner Beauty

SPEAKER_00 10:50

And I never heard you say this until last time you were over, but you built the fireplace in my house. What year did you build that?

SPEAKER_03 10:57

1979.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

And uh when you were over last time, you talked about how splitting the rocks and seeing the inside of them was like the inside of people. What did you say?

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Most rocks are kind of gray and odd-colored or darker colored on the outside. And I learned from splitting them how beautiful they are on the inside. So it's the same with people, you can't judge them by the way they look on the outside. You gotta get to know them and see the beauty on the inside. Because I'm finding people are more beautiful on the inside than they are on the outside. Just like the old saying, you can't judge a package by its cover.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

So I've learned to do that.

Alcohol, Work Ethic, And Clarity

SPEAKER_00 11:38

It's nice. And you've never been a big drinker since I've been alive. Um, did you ever really have a relationship with alcohol?

SPEAKER_03 11:47

Yes, I did. In my later years, eight first year I graduated from high school, I went out drinking that summer three times a week, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday night. I got so I could drink a case of beer of three, two beer in one night. And then as I when I quit farming, is when I kind of quit drinking because uh construction work, you gotta work hard and heavy all day long. And if I went out drinking the night before or went to bed at midnight, I was tired. I couldn't work the way I wanted to work. If I stayed up at midnight and didn't drink, I was fine the next day. Uh so drinking interfered with my ability to work fast and hard. So work was more important to me than alcohol was.

SPEAKER_00 12:32

So you started just practicing drinking pop?

Grief, Questioning God, And Renewed Faith

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Yes, I went to a bar one night in my early twenties. I suppose maybe it was. Anyway, I had thought that drinking alcohol would loosen me up so I could be more friendly or more talkative. So I thought, hmm, I wonder if that's true or not. So I went out one night and only drank Pepsi. I had just as much fun as I did when I drank.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

And you felt good the next day. And you felt good the next day.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Yeah, yeah. I probably drank five or six Pepsi's, but uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Uh so you're very religious, but there was a time where you hated God after your brother died.

SPEAKER_03 13:11

Well, I don't know if I hated him, I was very extremely disappointed.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Can you tell me about that?

SPEAKER_03 13:17

Well, he got killed in a farm accident right out of the blue, so it just struck you like a blow on the head. Anyway, uh so for three, four years I put gut on the shelf for salvation, but not for day-to-day deals. And I kept asking him over and over why. Somehow or other he told me, if I told you why, you wouldn't understand, and it wouldn't change anything. You just have to accept me by faith, you know, that I know what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

What finally changed for you to start talking to him day to day again?

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Well that when he kind of talked to me about that, you know, and I realized that uh I don't have to have all the answers, I don't have to know everything to believe. Uh faith is believing something that you don't understand and still accepting it. I mean, I don't know much about nuclear nothing about nuclear fission or electricity, exactly how it goes along the lines and stuff, you know. I wonder about a lot of things. Now, say, for electricity purposes, what goes through those big lines out there, say it's 10,000 kilowatts a day go through there. But if only use eight that day, what happens to the other two? Nobody's ever been able to tell me.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

We need to put electrician on.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Once once it's produced by a generator, you can't store it. It goes out. So where does it go to? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Is there still times that um you don't feel close to God? And what do you do to feel closer?

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Just stop and shut my eyes and think about it and think about all the blessings and all the good things, you know.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Uh-huh. How do you know God loves you?

SPEAKER_03 15:04

He's uh showed me that uh several times through the years in saving my life, I suppose. There's been times when I've pulled out of the driveway here. I looked to the north, didn't see nothing, looked to the south. I was just ready to pull out, and for some reason when I turned back, and here was a car. Now, what made me turn? God, or it just happened to you know, people say, Oh, I just happened to, I was lucky. Well, I don't believe necessarily luck.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

What's your favorite Bible verse?

SPEAKER_03 15:41

Well, God so love John 3 16, God so loved the world, gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should uh will not perish but have everlasting life. And I still remember my confirmation Bible verse the the minister puts his hand on your head. I was fourteen years old, so that's how many years ago was that, uh seventy-six years ago. Or sixty-six years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

What was that one?

SPEAKER_03 16:10

John uh ten, twenty-seven and twenty-eight. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man snatch them out of my hand.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

What does that verse make you feel?

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Wonderful. It makes me feel warm, nice, confident, you know, that I know I'm where I'm going. I'm looking forward to the first five minutes in heaven, you know. The last five, ten minutes before I die may not be so pleasant, but uh when that door opens, it's gonna be fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

So are you getting scared?

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Am I scared?

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Getting scared to die and go to heaven?

SPEAKER_03 16:56

I don't think so, you know. I don't really want to leave just yet. And the biggest reason is you. I don't want you to go too many years without a father. So I hope I make it another ten for you to be at least fifty.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

A huge thing that you always teach me is not to make decisions when I'm high or low. How did you learn that?

SPEAKER_03 17:32

By making those mistakes.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Like making decisions out of anger or sadness and then regret.

SPEAKER_03 17:38

Or just feeling extremely excited and things are going great, you know. So you're kind of high. I remember I bought a vehicle one time. I thought, boy, I really needed that bad. It was exciting, and I bought it. Two months later, I thought, what the hell did I buy that for? So I turned around and sold it. And if I'm down in the dumps, I know some people do. Well, some people, women buy shoes. If they feel down in the dump, they go buy a new pair of shoes. Well, you got a sister-in-law that she's got 50, 60 pairs of shoes. Because she feels down, she goes buys another pair of shoes. Well, I taught myself, I don't, that's not a good time to buy. I gotta wait till I'm in the middle, not up or down.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

But well, that's why I don't show you my closet. I don't show you my closet. I have lots of shoes too. It's not just because she or me is low, it's because we really, really like shoes. They're great. Have you seen them?

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Yeah, there could be several reasons for that, but I'm but I know some people do buy uh emotional. Yeah, oh I mean, I emotional. Emotional buying.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Um, so and you like talking to inanimate objects, like you give inanimate objects praise and um talk bad to them too. Why do you do that?

SPEAKER_03 18:51

I don't know. Sure. But I talk to my tractors and machinery and whatnot, yeah. I talk out loud to God too. I talk out loud a lot to God.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

And even when I'm driving down the road, it's seeing especially nice, especially in the fall of the year. Oh, I say it right out loud, boy God, he did a nice job on that tree. So I give him compliments too.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Do you have any regrets?

SPEAKER_03 19:20

One, that my I didn't appreciate my mother more. My dad was so dominant that we didn't think mom was just there, you know. And didn't realize till after she died how much she was there for us, you know, behind the scenes person.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

So do you talk to her now and tell her?

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Well, I don't know if I talk to her or not, but I say it out loud or say it to myself, Mom, I wish I'd appreciate it you more.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

What do you wish your grandkids do when they are your age that you do right now?

Needs Versus Wants And Giving

SPEAKER_03 19:58

That they remember to be. Appreciative of people, appreciative of life, of the world. And I hope that they uh come to the place in their life that they accept Jesus Christ as their savior. That's the most important. I mean, I told Ed and Steve, and probably you and Mike, when you were little, I don't care what you do in life, as long as you end up in heaven with me. I don't care if you dick ditches or on welfare or whatever, as long as you end up there. That's the most important thing. This is only temporary.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Mm-hmm. What do you do that you hope your grandkids don't do?

SPEAKER_03 20:32

Take drugs.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

But you do you do that right now?

SPEAKER_03 20:36

I take a little marijuana now and then.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

And you hope that they don't?

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Well, I don't think marijuana is a bad thing if it helps for pain or different things or helps you settle down a little bit or sleep better or Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

So is there anything though that you hope that they don't do that you do?

SPEAKER_03 20:56

That I do? Yeah. Oh, they don't get wrapped up in timing everything. They'd be live a little more relaxed.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Yeah, that's something I want to write on my wall is so that I see it all the time is do everything relaxed. It would be nice.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

When you're in a leadership position, it's hard to be relaxed all the time because when you own a business or run a business, it's like you already know that it's 24-7. And you need to sometimes uh pull away from that. And I think you're doing pretty good at it. You go true your traveling probably takes you away from that, and that's probably mentally healthy. I sometimes worry about your brother Steve. He just works 80, 90 hours a week and take his computer with him when he travels and everything, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you for approving of my traveling. Thank you for approving of my traveling.

A Vision Of Love And A New View Of God

SPEAKER_03 21:52

Approving of your traveling. Yeah, sometimes I think you spend too much money on some of that stuff. But I remember Steve used to say when he was younger, I want to do all this stuff now because I might not live long enough to do it later. Well, maybe you think that way too. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah.

Hospital Ministry And A Final Blessing

SPEAKER_03 22:10

But I always like to save up for the future, you know. I grew up with the philosophy: 10% goes to charity or to God, and 10% to savings. And uh you can sometimes 80% with God goes further than 100% without Him. And they talk over with things, you know, Lord, do I really need this or want it? Or because there's a difference between needs and wants. All we need is food, clothing, shelter, and companionship. The other side is wants. It can be 10 things, 20, 30, 40, 50 things that you want.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

What do you believe the meaning of life is?

SPEAKER_03 22:54

The meaning of life. Do the best you can with what the talents and gifts God has given you.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

If you had to boil everything you believe down to one thing to try to live by, what would it be?

SPEAKER_03 23:08

Love your neighbor as yourself. Don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you. You know, I never believed in holler, I never hollered at people. Because no way, like as soon as somebody hollers at you, a wall goes up and you don't hear half of it. And a calm voice always mellows people out. Dave Thielen, I don't know if you remember him or not, tough guy, just loved to fight and drink and all that stuff. And they used to get in trouble, go to jail. I'd bail him out or pick him up for the work fair so I could go on and back. I could get him to cry by talking to him about how to be more sensitive and more caring and and and God giving him talents. And you gotta start living up to those Dave instead of living only for yourself.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Well, I heard that our view of God is influenced by our experience of our own fathers. So I think that makes sense because I think of God as wise and caring and funny, just like you. And you always tell me I'm your favorite daughter, even though I'm your only. So I'm gonna say you're my favorite dad, even though you're my only.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Yeah, I say I learned the opposite from my dad. There were many years that I looked at God as a harsh person or because uh you relate him to their father. But I was going to a lay ministry school down at North Heights Lutheran Church there, and they talked so much about Jesus' love and gentleness and all that stuff. And I actually had a vision. It was real. I mean, it was real. He carried me in his arms up and set me on the on God's lap.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Really?

SPEAKER_03 25:01

That changed my perspective of God as a loving person, or my dad was harsh.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Yeah, it was it was the only vision I've really ever had.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Is there anything else you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_03 25:20

Well, there was a unique experience I had. I did hospital ministry one winter. Once a week, I'd go to the hospital and I'd talk to the administrator first, you know, said if I could go around from room to room to ask people if there's some parch portion of the Bible that they'd like me to read to them. Most of them said, Oh, I already got a minister, this or that. But a few of them had me picked out a verse to read. And this one older lady was in this room, I don't know for sure how old she was, and I asked her that. She said, You know, you won't believe this, but I've never been in church, and nobody really has ever talked to me much about God. So she said, uh, you pick something. Shoot, I thought I said, Oh Lord, help me to pick the right thing for this lady. I I don't remember now which psalm I picked. By the time I was done reading it, she was crying. And so I talked to her about Jesus and stuff, and then I went and told my pastor about it. Pastor Book was his name, about this lady and her room number. And he went and talked to her, led her through the uh believe it for the and baptized her, because she'd never been baptized, and walked her through different stuff. And she gave her communion, even. And he talked to me later, how she just was so tearful and thankful. She died two days later. So it was God sent me there at the right time. The lady's in heaven now, because I listen to God. If nothing, if even if all the other ones don't count, just the one thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Yeah, that's one person. Yeah. One soul.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

And I hope I've touched other people. I don't know, but I hope I have.

unknown 27:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Through God's word.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

So why you always gotta follow the signs, and you always gotta follow the signs that God's giving you on where to go, what to say, where to be, and listen to each person and acknowledge each person because you never know what they're going through. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

Yeah, you never know what they're going through. I notice a lot of people, a lot of the guys like to talk to you because you're really helpful with them. Almost like you're uh what do you call it, uh social worker to 'em or whatever.

Closing Thanks And Love

SPEAKER_00 27:44

But very nice. Well, thank you so much for coming on.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Appreciate it. Love you.

SPEAKER_03 27:53

Yeah.