Healing Through Energy: A Journey from Illness to Inspiration | Alia Gauthier

Alia Gauthier, co-founder of Tinted Salt in Chandler, Arizona, shares her journey from leaving Iran at age 11 during the revolution and war era, living in Turkey for 18 months, and arriving in Toronto as a refugee without speaking English. She discusses building resilience, dropping out of university, becoming a licensed aesthetician, buying and turning around a struggling salon, and marrying her husband Steve within six months of meeting online. Alia explains how manifestation and energy work influenced their lives, including Steve’s eventual hiring by Toronto Police, and how COVID disruptions helped prompt their move to Arizona. She describes her severe 2019 viral thyroiditis and holistic recovery, which inspired Tinted Salt’s personalized approach using the Harmonic Egg, VibroAcoustic therapy, red/infrared light, and halotherapy to reset the autonomic nervous system and support healing.

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SPEAKER_06 0:23

Because what your your subconscious mind cannot distinguish between reality and fiction. So what you say is always going to be reality to you. To your subconscious mind. So if I if I say I can't do this, then no, you can't do this, but I got this. I'm gonna do it. This is gonna be great. Then your body actually goes with that.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Hey there, welcome back to Above and Beyond Recells Meets Elevation. I'm your host, Jan Simon. This season we're raising the bar, diving into the passion, purpose, and defining moments of leaders who don't just aim high, they live there. Big ideas, real stories. Let's get into it. Today's guest is someone who turned her own journey into something powerful for others. Aliah Gautier is the co-founder of Tinted Salt, a holistic wellness sanctuary in Chandler, Arizona, focused on helping people reset, recover, and truly heal. With over 20 years of holistic health, she's a certified Reiki practitioner and licensed aesthetician who specializes in the connection between skin, gut, and the nervous system. Alongside her husband Steve, she's created a space that's not about quick fixes, but real, personalized care.

SPEAKER_06 1:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Leah, welcome.

SPEAKER_06 1:37

Thank you. Thanks for having me on.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

Thank you. I appreciate it. I really appreciate it. And this is exciting for me because we've had conversation, but I don't really know you. Know you.

SPEAKER_06 1:47

Ask away, I'm here. Anything you want to know. Nothing's off the table unless I say it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Ooh. Unless you shut me down. Okay, well, let's let's then rewind it way back.

SPEAKER_06 1:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Talk to me about your childhood. My childhood. What'd that look like?

SPEAKER_06 1:59

Okay. So I um I'm originally my parents are from Iran. So we I was born in Iran.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:07

I have three siblings. I have an older brother, and then it's me, and then I have a sister who is 13 months younger than me, and then I have another brother who is younger than my sister. So a family of four, so a big family, uh, middle child syndrome. That's uh hello, that would be me. Um, we left Iran in 1986 after the um the 19 the 1980, 79, 80 revolution, where we the country was occupied by the Islamic Republic.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

Six years later, we we left the country before my brother's military duty kicked in. Yeah. We left to Turkey and then from there we migrated to Canada. So it it was I've moved, I've moved countries, I've moved continents. So for me, moving was never it taught me a lot. It taught me a lot about my parents, my father. Very he can see things a lot further in the future than most people can, in the sense that like he can say, okay, well, if we do this, the outcome back like forward is going to be different, and he's not afraid to take those risks, which is a lot I can say for him because you know he they moved to Canada, they did not know my dad knew how to speak English, he knew he knew a little bit of French as well, but he's lost that. So yeah, like that's that's where we came from.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

How old were you in when you left Iran?

SPEAKER_06 3:28

Uh 86.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

I was I mean, I don't want to press tell me how old you are, but yeah, okay. So 11. So you were old enough to remember the move and everything. Was it and just because I I mean I have so many questions, but but was it a tragic move to move? Did you leave family behind?

SPEAKER_06 3:46

We did. We did. Basically, my parents just pretty much left everything and and moved because they they didn't want to shake um, they didn't want anybody to know, anybody meaning government officials to know that we were moving, moving. So it was a very subtle kind of like, we're gonna go on vacation to Turkey, because the Iran and Turkey are borders, and just like here in Canada, you don't need a visa to go across the border, you just need your passports. So we were just, you know, going on vacation for the summer and then coming back type of thing. So it it it was in the sense that you know we left our cousins behind, we left family behind, but it was also exciting. It was also as a kid, you don't you don't really understand the magnitude of that kind of a move. You know, like my mom was just 30 years old, she moved with four kids. My dad, like it was it was a lot for them. So no, it was it. I I don't know if it was scary. I think it was just exciting.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah. And uh and you said it was is your brother older than you?

SPEAKER_06 4:54

My brother is older than me, four years.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

But it was before his military draft.

SPEAKER_06 4:58

Yeah, before his 15th year, 15th birthday. So when they turn when they turn 15, they get drafted. No, um, yeah, it's a man at the time of the war, it was a mandatory draft. Okay. Um now I do don't quote me on this. I believe that you can buy out your military duty at now. You can do that, but then because there was the Iran and Iraq war happening, um, it was mandatory. So we needed to leave the country before his 15th birthday so that he didn't get drafted. So my so my parents, my parents did the right thing for him.

SPEAKER_04 5:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:31

And and and really for the rest of us. Like they saved us from that environment. It's uh it was very volatile. Even as even as an 11-year-old, I remember like going to school and just because we're we're not a religious family. Well, at the time, we were not a religious family. My parents were born into a Muslim family, but they never practiced it, and they never really instilled any of that stuff on us. So we didn't really know much about Islam and the religion when we went to school, and then the teachers were pissed at me. Yeah, like I remember questioning at one point, and and I got sent home with a nice uh lovely letter to my mother. Wow, and then my mom's like, You cannot say things, and so yeah, it it it it was a scary time. It was a scary time, yeah. That was insane.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

I can't imagine I you know it's it's crazy because I I'm gonna I'm gonna share my ignorance full blast right now. So I went to Australia, excuse me, I went to New Zealand for the rugby world cup 15 years ago, something like that. I think it was about 15 years ago. And other than Canada and Mexico, I'd never been out of the country. And I was really scared to go. Like it was one of those weird, scare. Right. Yeah, you just don't know what you're getting into. And I think that if you haven't traveled internationally, it's very easy to succumb to the fact that you know it's it's kind of like when you hear about uh say Philadelphia and and the the drug epidemic that's in Philadelphia, it's like, oh, all of Philadelphia, you know, it's like, well, no, it's like one street or two streets, you know, type of thing. So it's it's crazy. Like I think about when you think, okay, Middle East and Iran and Iraq and and Afghanistan, and I mean that that we'll call it region, yeah. This vision that the media has created in our minds. Where you grew up, did you experience the fighting and stuff that was going on, or was it more kind of separated from where you were?

SPEAKER_06 7:36

Not where we lived, it wasn't. Um in other regions it was really bad, not where we were. However, I do re recall we were in the capital, Tehran, over the summer holidays. Um, my uncle lived in an apartment in a condo building and he was on the top floor. He was on the, I think, the sixth or eighth floor, I can't remember off the top of my head now. And I remember all of us were sitting in the sitting room which overlooked the boulevard, and all of a sudden that there was this massive explosion noise. And um, and when you when we looked out the window, you could see something on fire up in the air and down. That was the only personal experience that I had of that type of thing. But I remember like family that lived in the Capitol, and they would tell us like so they had like all their windows taped so that if it hit it. If it hit or it or the the the um the impact of other buildings being hit, the the windows would shake and then they would shatter, right? So they just had like tape on everything, that that type of thing that I remember, but I don't remember being bombed like on a constant basis. Now it wasn't like you lived in a no brick hut on the dirt floor and oh gosh, no, no, yeah, right? Like but but that but that is what North American vision of what Middle East looks like. Now, some parts of Middle East look like that. I can tell you that Iran is not. Iran is uh one of the most beautiful countries. There's so much to see there, there's so much history, 25,000 years of history. Sorry, 2,500 years of history, yeah, right? They were the first to uh have a university, they were the first to have um medical school, they they wrote the first bill of rights. Wow, right? There's so much history there, and it's a beautiful country. Like people live in normal homes like we do here, in high rises like they do here. And sure, if you go out into the countryside, it's a little bit different. But if here you go to the country and not exactly living in mansions, although nowadays, like yeah, like it no, it's not like that. Like they don't live in huts, they don't live in like they don't sleep on dirt floors or anything like that. But there are parts of the country that are poor, just like here. Like you go, I remember going to Detroit for the first time, and then my uncle took us like to like the the the district part, yeah, yeah. And where I was like, um, we need to leave because this is scary. So just like any country, any city has its good spots and bad spots.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah. Do you still have family?

SPEAKER_06 10:21

We have some distant relatives. Um, no one that we are very close with that we would be in touch with on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Have you ever can you go back? I guess I don't even know if that's I mean, have you been back?

SPEAKER_06 10:35

I have not been back. Um, I do not currently hold a valid Iranian passport.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 10:41

I do I want to go back, not at the state that it's at right now.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 10:45

Things would have to definitely change, you know. Like now I'm married and I have children. But even before that, I don't think I would go back. It's so different, especially for women. You can't really travel by yourself as a female in Iran. No, you you can't. It's it's dangerous. For for it's dangerous for an outsider to do that. Maybe people that live there would say things are different. I I'm not sure if too many would travel on their own. But yeah, I mean, do I want to go back? I would love to go see that's my homeland.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

I could I think I think about like when I go back to where I grew up. It's like I would drive by the house that I grew up in and go, oh my god, it's like half the size I thought it was. You know, it's like because it was always a huge house and it's tiny.

SPEAKER_06 11:26

So I I would think from a nostalgic perspective, yeah, to be able to go back and say, Oh, I remember doing this here, or yeah, you know, that I that I would love to do because I there yeah, I have a lot of memories as a child growing up with cousins and specifically in Shiraz, which is one of the bigger cities, and uh that's where my mom's family is from. Okay. They they're they're Sufis in their I don't know. I am I allowed to say it. I call it a cult, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

You say whatever you want. I mean hopefully. I mean, somebody might hunt me down. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 12:04

Um so there was a Sufi house there, and as a child every summer, like that we would go there and we would hang out with my cousins, and it was a lot of fun that we had, and so yeah, like it would be it would be nice to go see everything, absolutely. Like it would be nice though. Like, I think I think I would cry. Yeah, you know, I think I would be like, wow, like things are not what I remember them to be.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:00

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Well, and just the connection.

SPEAKER_06 13:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

So growing up there, okay, so you you you packed up and went to Turkey. Turkey. A year and a half. In essence for the summer.

SPEAKER_06 13:13

Yeah. Did you what do we do there?

SPEAKER_00 13:15

No, did you like just pack the car at one suitcase and go?

SPEAKER_06 13:19

So we flew. Yeah, we flew, and each of us, like basically with a suitcase. Like we were going on vacation, like we literally did not take anything with us. Like we didn't take any family photos, we didn't take um anything that was of value. My mom had a few pieces of jewelry, I guess, that she, but she left those all with her with her brother in in Tehran. And then yeah, we just basically went with a suitcase each to just travel to for the summer. Like that's that was the plan. And wow, yeah, like there was yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

That's crazy. So when you got to Turkey and you said a year and a half.

SPEAKER_06 13:56

A year and a half we got stuck there.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

Did you okay, you got stuck?

SPEAKER_06 13:59

We got stuck.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 14:00

Because we couldn't go back to Iran for obvious reasons, my brother and his uh drafting.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

So we So do you have to like claim asylum or something to do with that?

SPEAKER_06 14:11

So we didn't no, you couldn't, you we couldn't do that either.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 14:13

We couldn't do that either. You could stay in in Turkey as an Iranian, just like you can come to the US for six months, right? Gotcha. So we had like a six-month visitors visa, but at the end of the six months, my f my dad went back to Iran to redeem that you have to go out of the country and come back in, right? And he had some un unsettled business in Iran that he needed to finish up because like my parents were living off of their savings. We didn't have work permits, we didn't have education permits. So, like us kids, we were at home and my parents, yeah, they were like living off of their savings money they had, yeah. Correct, and we were trying to get a visa to the US or to Canada. That was the that was the plan. And ultimately we ended up just going through a a route that I will not discuss uh on this podcast or anywhere really. And yeah, so my dad went to go he went back to Iran and he got stuck there. He got into some something and they would not leave let him leave the country.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

No kidding.

SPEAKER_06 15:16

So then he had to, you know, to buy his way out of the country. And no, he didn't escape this time, he bought his way out. I think my uncle, who was a judge during the Shah Revolution, okay Shah time, he had some connections and he got him to eventually. So, but my mom got stuck in Turkey with four kids without my dad, and all of her, all the banks and everything was all under my dad's name, so she ended up with no money. We had to pay rent, so we ended like my mom had to go and borrow money from a friend that we had met there, and so it was just it was a lot on my mom. Oh yeah. I look back actually at pictures of my mom when we first moved to to the to Canada, and my mom looks like a skeleton. Really? She was under that much pressure, like it was it was crazy for her. So eventually my dad came, and then we were able to leave Turkey through Greece and then uh UK to Canada. That was like a two two-day trip we did. We took the bus to Greece, and then from Greece we hopped on a airplane layover UK to Canada. Wow. And then once we got to Canada, that's when we claimed our refugee status. Gotcha asylum.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Okay. Where where in Canada were you?

SPEAKER_06 16:32

Toronto.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

Okay. So we landed in Toronto. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 16:35

Yeah. It was yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

And and do you remember your first thoughts when you got to Canada? Like what that was like. Cold.

SPEAKER_06 16:44

No, I'm not joking when I say that. We we landed January 13th, 1988. And it and I bel I do believe that was the coldest day of 1988 was January 13th. And we didn't know, right? Yeah, sure, it was cold in Turkey and in Iran where we were, but not like Canada cold. Like, you're almost at the north boom, you won't. It was it was insanely cold. So I remember it being very cold and just the unknown of like where are we gonna go? And we had my dad had some family here.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:18

Some distant relatives who helped us get a space to live temporarily, and then through that we ended up getting a house to rent, and yeah, and then we started school and we did not speak English.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Really? Oh, yeah. You speak very good English now. Well I mean, I can hear a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 17:39

A little bit of an accent, not a lot, right? I would say it's more of a Canadian accent, don't you think?

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Okay, yeah, sure, you betcha. Uh-huh. Don't you know? I mean, I guess that's probably Minnesota, but yeah. Same thing.

SPEAKER_06 17:50

Same thing, right? Minnesota is Canada. So Yeah. So yeah, we didn't speak English, and then they just kind of like threw me into like so January, we arrive, right? So end of January, we get thrown into grade six. Like, here you go. And my sister's in grade five, so we're a year apart. And um, my youngest brother was in grade one, and my oldest brother was in high school. So they just basically like plopped us here, and we're just like, we don't understand a word. We didn't understand a thing. I mean, my dad spoke a bit of English. He where he worked in Iran, he we he um dealt with a lot of Americans that were working in Iran, but um, but yeah, we didn't we didn't speak any English. And uh, but by the by that summer, we were going. Kids are so resilient.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

What language do Iranians speak? Farsi. Okay, so do you still speak Farsi?

SPEAKER_06 18:39

Absolutely, yeah. And I listen to far to m per Persian or Farsi music in the car, and my kids get annoyed at me now. And uh my sister and I talk a lot, and you know, when we try to like not let our husbands who are both Canadian, understand what we're saying, we speak in Farsi. Farsi, yeah. And and my kids, my older one understands, my younger one doesn't. So if I s if I talk to my sister and she'll be like, Mom, that's awesome. Mom.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

It's like that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 19:06

So we do speak a little bit, but that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

So moved to Toronto. Yeah. Did you graduate high school in Toronto?

SPEAKER_06 19:13

I graduated high school. I went to um University of Western Ontario to study psychology. I did three years and then I dropped out. It wasn't for me. I I just I don't know. It just uh wasn't the right move.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:28

I from the beginning did not want to go and do university. I wanted to do a trades, but coming from a Iranian family, Persian family, you just that's what you do. You just you finish high school, you go to university. Like there is no questions about that. You don't you we don't discuss these things. Yeah. So I dropped out third year and I moved back home and just worked odd jobs, the mall, and then eventually I got a job at a rehab clinic, physical rehab clinic. I did like all their billings and you know, all that kind of stuff. And then I my my boss used to yell at me all the time. Yeah, and I remember one day I woke up and I said, if he yells at me today, I'm gonna quit. And it was already three years of me working for him. And I had friends that worked there with me, and I'm still to this day I'm still friends with them. And they're like, Oh, Leah, you're not quitting. You need this job so badly. And I was like, Oh, watch, I'm gonna quit. I'm quitting. This is it, I'm done. So lo and behold, he he yelled at me. And he walked. And that was a Friday afternoon. And uh I just told him, I said, You need to find someone to replace me. I'm giving you my two weeks' notice. I wrote it on paper, signed in a gave it to him. He was like, his name was Brad. He's like, he's like, No, I was like, Oh yeah, this is happening. That's true. I was so young. I was 23 at the time, 23, 24. And I was like, nope, we're not doing this anymore. This is we're done. We're done with this. I'm I'm done being yelled at. And and that was the start of my aesthetics. Then I worked at a bar, waitressing, bartending, doing whatever I needed to do to save all my money. And I went to a private school for aesthetics, and I literally walked in with$10,000 in like 20s and 50s and hundreds.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

No kidding. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 21:09

And I put it on the on the desk of the register, and he just looked at me like I was like, it's legit. I I bartend and I waitress. It's all good. It's like it's it's all good.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

This is good money. Couple stacks of singles. That's too funny. So, sixth grade, you're in Toronto, you're you're going elementary school, into high school, you're fighting to learn English, all that stuff. Was there anybody during that time that really had a big influence on you to help you? I mean, I because I could imagine there's some pretty traumatic moves in there. Whether you look at them as trauma or not, I think that they could be. Was there anybody in there that I said, Aliyah, get it together?

SPEAKER_06 21:49

No.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

No, no, you didn't need anybody to do that?

SPEAKER_06 21:51

No, it's not that I didn't need anybody to do that. It just it just wasn't like that. I I don't know, maybe now things have changed now, but back then there really wasn't like I uh in high school I had a teacher. He he was he was nice to me, but I never felt that you know someone that kind of like nurtured me and just said, Oh, you're good at this and you should do that, or I I think that's part of the middle child syndrome, right? Like I I think I always felt like, oh, the focus was always on my brother. I mean now as I I don't think that anymore. You know it. Yeah, like right, you didn't know that it was on him.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

You don't have to think about it. But uh coming from a middle child myself.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

Right. But now I know that that wasn't the case, but then I always thought that it was, right? So no, I I I think I I'd like to think that everything that got me to where I am, it was my own perseverance, my own like I I failed at a lot of stuff and I just got myself back up and I moved on, and I didn't think I didn't want to feel sorry for myself. Forever. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I think that that was part of how why I became an entrepreneur too. I was like, I can't work for people. Like he yells at me all the time, you know. And I worked at McDonald's when I was 13. And I was like, I don't want to be working here. They tell me to like sweep the floors every five minutes. I can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Need a lobby. Yeah. Somebody hit the lobby.

SPEAKER_06 23:19

Did you did you do that? Did you? Yeah. McDonald's? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

I worked at McDonald's. Actually, I worked, I had three different stints at McDonald's because of different things that happened in my life. I actually was in college, I managed, I was a night shift manager for but I also opened in McDonald's. It's where I learned to be able to crack multiple eggs at one time.

SPEAKER_06 23:39

Right? So you did the kitchen. I was the friend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

But yeah, as some manager always, I need a lobby. Yeah. Or you know, go hit the lot.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

Yeah. Somebody take the that garbage out. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody soak that onion bag.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah. Oh yeah. The 10 one 10 one onions. That's funny. All right. So wait and table. Wait in tables. Yeah. Working behind a bar. Were you an actual bartender? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Did you did you enjoy that?

SPEAKER_06 24:10

I liked it. I liked it a lot. It's just I I literally worked probably seven days a week for about four and a half months to be able to get the money together so that I could start the school semester in the in that September year. Because I didn't want to wait till the January, right? So I was like, I'm just going to do this. I'm just going to go for it. And then I worked in the waitressing and bartending. You just make you just make a lot of money. And I was young and you know.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Squirrel it away.

SPEAKER_06 24:39

And I was just like, you know what? Let's just do it. And I and I did it and I worked all the time. I worked seven days what bartending. Wait, did they need a watch hand? Did they need a waitress? That's fine. Whatever. Like we do whatever you need me to do, I will do it. Do it. Yeah. And then just, yeah, it was it was insane. But it was fun. It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

And you went to school to be an aesthetician.

SPEAKER_06 24:58

I went to school for aesthetics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

What did that look like? I mean, what what made you decide that was what you wanted to do?

SPEAKER_06 25:06

Because I always loved the beauty industry. I was always very good at things like, you know, doing nails and waxing. And like in in university, I used to like on the as a side hustle, I used to like wax my roommates and stuff and make extra money. And and I learned how to do eyebrows and all of that. So when I was in s in in aesthetic school, the girl that I used to go to as my aesthetician hired me.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 25:31

So while I was in school, I was also getting training from her, and it was it was great. Um I worked for her about a year after school, and then uh I was like, I don't want to work for people. I work for people.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

You became the smartest person in the room, right?

SPEAKER_06 25:44

No, well, okay, fine. I did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

You did. Because we all think that. Yeah. All entrepreneurs. I think all entrepreneurs at some point go, I'm I I'm better than this. I can do this myself. I don't need somebody to tell me when to take out the trash. Yeah. When to sweep the floor.

SPEAKER_06 26:03

But I also worked with this girl who was the the salon manager, and she was a bitch. Oh, she was she was just a complete.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

What is it? I just heard the other day. If you if you run into more than three people in the morning that you think are a bitch, you're actually the bitch.

SPEAKER_06 26:19

Maybe you're the bitch, yeah. No, she was the only one. No, she was the only one.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

I mean, you don't you don't come across to me that way. I'm just saying though. You don't know me. I don't. We're being very cordial right now.

SPEAKER_06 26:29

Yeah. Until the end of the session. Um, yeah, and uh and I remember going up to uh Josie, who was the owner of the salon that had hired me, and I said to her, I said, listen, I I already worked for and she knew Brad. I said, I already worked for Brad, and Sarah was a complete lunatic. I said, I'm not doing that again. So I'm just letting you know that I'm giving it three months and then I'm out of here. So I gave them my notice and then uh and she was very nice about it. And she was like, I she was like, I never thought that you were gonna stick around for a very long time.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:00

She's like, I was kind of hoping like maybe another year, but okay. And then I just uh I went and I purchased a salon from someone who that was like going under, and everyone was like, You're crazy. And I was like, No, I can do this. I I'm I I can I can turn this around. And within like I think it was like six or seven months, I ended up hiring someone. And then, yeah, and then I had three girls working for me, and then they were running that business, and then I don't want to got married and I had kids, and yeah, it was that's that's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 27:30

It was it was good, it was good.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

So as an esth I can't even say the word. Yes, yeah, as that, yeah, what did you do?

SPEAKER_06 27:37

So I did all of it. So I did all skincare, waxing, threading, laser hair removal. Yeah, I did I did all of that. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

All of it. And then when you opened your salon, is that what you focused on, or did you also add in hair and nails and all that other stuff?

SPEAKER_06 27:51

No, I just did, I just did aesthetic stuff. No, no hair. I I I didn't have any background in that. And it's really hard to hire hairstylists when you yourself are not a hairstylist. Like I wouldn't be able to manage them. They would walk all over me, right? But as an aesthetician, I'll be like, no, you need to do what you need to do because I know what needs to be done. But with hair, like I would never be able to manage that. And I think that's the that's the other thing. Like, do something that you are familiar with, yeah, not something like you know, out of the blue that you're know you're gonna like I I would never be able to do insurance because I don't know anything about that. I never worked in that field, so I wouldn't be able to manage people who did insurance. Right. They would walk all over me, they would tell me bullshit stuff, and I'd be like, okay. Okay, yeah. Sounds good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Sounds legit. I mean, when did you meet your husband? Did you still were you still an esthetician at the time? Okay.

SPEAKER_06 28:46

Yep, I had my salon, so I still had just the salon downtown Toronto. Um, and Steve and I met.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Came in for a wax.

SPEAKER_06 28:54

Nope. No, we actually met on a dating app. Oh, that back then there was no app, it was the website. That's how old I am.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Was that through MySpace?

SPEAKER_06 29:04

What was the app? What was the thing called? Lava Life.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Oh, never heard of it.

SPEAKER_06 29:08

Yeah, it's a Canadian thing, probably. That's why you didn't hear about it.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

Probably they don't let it south of the border.

SPEAKER_06 29:13

Yeah. Um, so yeah, Steve and I met on Lava Life. We went, uh Steve's our story's a little bit funny too. Oh, do share. Do do share. Um, so we met, we got engaged, we got married all under six months, and everybody thought we were insane.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

No kidding.

SPEAKER_06 29:32

Yeah, it was Who did I talk to? It was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Oh my god, you just reminded me of somebody. Oh, Jeff Bride.

unknown 29:39

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

His little story where he's like, first date with Heidi. I think it was Heidi. He like basically proposes, I think. Anyways, sorry. So the first Oh six months. We got so if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_06 29:53

Yeah, you know exactly. I had a very serious relationship just before I had met Steve, and I knew that like that was done with, and I and I really wanted to settle down. And um, so I manifested him. I I I literally manifested the whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

He was a rebound.

SPEAKER_06 30:12

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Sorry, Steve.

SPEAKER_06 30:14

No, he wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

I because it's funny because it was at least three days after you broke up with the other guy.

SPEAKER_06 30:19

Oh, it was it was a it was a few months. It wasn't it wasn't three days, it was a few months, but but it was a very serious relationship that I was in. And then I just I came out and I'm a Scorpio, so like I give and I give and I give and I give. And you wrong me, it's done. Done. We're done. I there is no going back. I'm not that person that you know, oh, like, no, he loves no, nope, nope, you you wronged me. You're you're screwed. There is no way that we would ever get back together. So yeah, Steve and I met, and I think we on our first date, it was just it was like we just knew. It was weird. And then and everything was just so easy. It was not like, was he gonna call me? See, like, you know, when you're younger, you're stupid, right? He gave me a note. Is he gonna call me? Like, do I do I wait for him? Like, is there like a three-day wait thing? Like that kind of thing. Like there was nothing like that, it was just very easy. That's right. We met and we went on a few dates, and I think it was like or like a week or two in. You basically like, so I had gone through a really bad depression, and I was on antidepressants when I met Steve. So I didn't want Steve to think that I was just that I was a super healthy person because I wasn't. I truly was not a healthy person at that time and mentally. So I remember like I think it was like two weeks in, things were getting really serious, and uh, and I just said to him, I said, Hey, listen, like, I I just need I need to be honest with you. Like, I'm on antidepressants. I I don't I'm planning on getting off of them. I I you have to be okay with this. Like, I'm I'm not a well person. And I at the time, I don't know, maybe maybe it was the wrong thing to say, but maybe I don't know. I think it was the right thing. And I said, I'll give you some time to think about it. Like, take take a week, don't call me, go think about things, talk to your family or whatever, like do whatever you need to do. And if I don't hear from you, like it's totally fine. Like, I I'm not gonna hold it against you or anything. But if we do, then there's no turning back, type of thing, right? And he's like, Oh, he's like, I already know that, yeah, that's fine. It's like Did you go through my medicine cabinet? He's like, he's like, I already know that. And I was like, Yeah, but like you have to be okay. He's like, Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine it's good, it's good. But I think if you ask him now, he'd be like, Oh no, I I totally screwed myself over.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

It's like every guy. He was never mind. He's like, No, it's good, it's all good, it's all good, it's all good. We're okay, we're okay. So he's Canadian.

SPEAKER_06 33:23

He's Canadian, he's French Canadian, French Canadian, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

And you guys got married within six months. Yeah. Within six months of that, you had a baby.

SPEAKER_06 33:32

No. No.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

It's not how it works. No. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 33:35

Okay, okay, okay, okay. No, we waited.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

So um, you had your shop. What is what did Steve do?

SPEAKER_06 33:41

So Steve was a private investigator at that time. He was a private investigator.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

That's how he knew you were on depressive medication.

SPEAKER_06 33:49

Right? I it didn't click to me then, right? Like later it's like, oh, like I was trying to hide something from a private investigator.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Not that I was hiding it, but he could see the residue on your lips from taking the pill.

SPEAKER_05 34:00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 34:02

Uh it's all good. It's all good. Yeah, he was a private investigator. He worked for a private firm. He did a lot of like loss prevention stuff. They did some of like staking out, you know, looking for whatever, but it wasn't that often. And so when we got married, that's what he was doing. He did that for quite some time. Then he wanted he wanted to move, get a little bit higher up in that company. There was nowhere to go because it was such a small company. He did approach them to buy into the company, and they said at that time they weren't looking for like another partner or investor that you know, you know. So they offered him a little bit more money, but at the end of the day, he was like it wasn't really about the money, it was more it was more like he was like, like it wasn't that much more. And it's a private company, like how much could they give him unless they become like extremely big, right? And then he was what did he oh well this is this is the best story because this is how all of my Reiki stuff came in.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Okay, I was that was gonna be one of my questions. So is it okay? I don't even have that's a question.

SPEAKER_06 35:06

It's not even a question, but so he one day he's like on the computer, and it it wasn't like him to be on the computer like after work, and he's on there for a long time, and I was like, What are you doing? You're being so secretive. Like, what is happening? He's like, Well, the Toronto police is hiring for their courts before we got married. He wanted to get into the police force, and I was like, that's a deal breaker for me. Like, I don't think I can handle that, I don't think I can handle the shift work, I don't think I can handle that. I'm being honest, like, you know, this is we're only together for like six months before we got married, so it couldn't have been that long prior to that that I said that to him, right? And uh, so he's like, Yeah, Toronto Police is hiring, but it's for the courts, and the courts is a nine to five Monday to Friday, right? And um, he's like, But it's like but it's a part-time job. So they don't hire full-time because then have to give you benefits, and you know, so they just string you along. And he's I'm like, So what's part-time? He's like, about 15 hours a week. And I was like, Okay, well, I said apply for it. And he's like, Well, what am I gonna do for the rest of the time? I'm like, Well, maybe you can still stay on here and then do this one part-time, and then together it'll be full-time, and eventually something will open up there, won't it? He's like, No, like the Toronto Police doesn't hire a full-time, whatever. And I was like, and it was just it was as if this spirit voice, whatever you want to call it, was like, push him to do it. He needs to do this, right? So I was like, I said, I want you to apply for it anyways. So, worst case scenario, they're gonna offer you the job, and you're gonna be like, Yeah, don't want it anymore, you know. So he's like, he hemmed and hard for a bit, and then he eventually did apply for it. The application took a long time. The application took a long time. And at that time, I was starting personally, I was starting to shift in my business. I was starting to move towards more of like, why aren't my clients seeing results with their skincare the way I want them to? So I was deeping diver into the holistic side of things and trying to figure out how I can help them further their skin regimens or their skin care with what I had to offer. And I had a Reiki master who used to do Reiki on me. So it was all about manifestation for me at that time. So I said, uh, so he applied and he they had a what was it called? Like a intro meeting, I guess. You know, they like they bring everybody who's and then they do a whole bunch of testing. I can't, I don't even know what it's called. Anyways, so he goes in and there's something like 1,500 people there that had applied for something like 20 positions, right? And he's like, so he comes home and he's like, I don't know about this. And I was like, Oh, you got this. Like, this job is was made for you. I believe that. I know that this is it. I said, we just need to, we just need to manifest it. We just need to pray on it. Like, this is what we're gonna do. He's like, I don't know how to do stuff like that. I'm like, neither do I. Let's do it. So we started to work together on that and just manifesting it like this job belongs to Steve, and like, you know, stuff like that. And they give him a call. He goes in for an interview. So this takes like this is a long story, so I'm just gonna shorten it up. So this takes over like, you know, three or four interviews that it happens, and over it's it was almost like six or seven months that this whole process went through. And at the very last uh part of it, they said to him that they are offering me you the we're offering you the position pending your background check. And he's like, Well, I don't have anything on my background, so like I got the job, right? Yeah, well, that was July long weekend in Canada, July 1st is Canada Day. So that was July long weekend, that was like right there. And we go to visit his family and stuff, and nobody calls him. Nobody calls him. July, August, September. Class started in September, and every time he checked his file online, it said incomplete. And he would call them and they're like, sir, we can't give you any information over the phone. He's like, Well, can I come in? No, you can't come in either. So it's like, okay. It's odd. He's like, Well, maybe, maybe the class has been postponed. Like, I got the job, like, I don't have anything on my background. Like, they offered me the job pending my background check. Like, what's on my background? That like so come October, one of my best friends who's a police officer with the Toronto police was just getting back from a maternity leave, and she's like, Oh, it's at the police college. And I saw the whole new class, and Steve wasn't there. Did he not get the job? My heart fell to the ground. I was like, What do you mean Steve didn't get the job? I'm like, Oh my god, I have to break that to him. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 39:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:40

I was like, oh my god, I have to tell him that this happened. So he came home from work and I was like, I need to tell you something. And then he so I tell him, and he's like, and he was mad at me. He was like, he's like, this is all your fault. What? Yeah. You made me do this. Oh no. You and you promised me that if I if I manifested it, it was gonna work. And I was like, Well, it is, but I said, but you got bigger than yourself and you stopped. So that's on you, not on me. Like, I'm like, so that was like one of the very few times that Steve and I actually had an argument. Like, we usually don't fight, like we all bicker, and then I'm like, eh, it's not worth it, and we just move along, right? Um, he was so mad at me, and he was just mad at himself, and he was just like, he was just angry. He was just angry for a while. He became a very angry person, which is very odd for him. So, anyway, come December, so that was October, November, December, and I said to him, What something I said to him that was, I believe that this job belongs to you. I believe there's no one in this world that is more deserving of this job, and you will get this job. And he got mad and he said, They don't hire that often, Aliyah. They're not gonna it's been 10 years since they hired, they're not gonna hire again. So I don't know where you think you're coming up with this. And I was like, I don't know about you, but I believe it and I know that it's gonna happen. And I said, and you need to go back to the drawing board and you need to go back to your manifestations and praying and all those things because you you let go of that, and when you let go of that, that's an energy. Everything in this world is an energy. You disconnected yourself from that energy, and so it did not happen for you. You need to reconnect again, and that's all I'm going to tell you. And he was like, And he's like, Oh, you're you're like you and your woo-woo stuff, and you're like crazy or whatever, right? Okay, whatever. Yeah, so on the side, I did my thing, and I didn't December comes and it's before Christmas. The phone rings, and guess who calls? Toronto police.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

Nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:38

They're like, We're wondering if you're still interested in that position. We're putting a second class through.

SPEAKER_04 41:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 41:44

And since your application didn't get through last time, because we did not get the background check done in time, and now it's done. Way now it's done. We'd like to offer you to biz the position. Would you like to take this position? So he gets off the phone. I don't know who he's talking to. And when he gets off the phone and I was like, What was that all about? He's like, How did you do it?

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Oh no, that's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 42:09

How did I do what? He's like, they called me. That was the Toronto Police. They the job is mine. I have to go in and sign the papers. Like, I'm going in tomorrow morning to sign. And I was like, What? He's like, How did you do it? And I was like, It's all an energy, everything is connected. So if you are not connecting, you're not getting there. Yeah, so it's a manifestation, it's God, it's Jesus, it's whatever you want to be, that's what it is. That's what's going to get you to where you want to be. And that it's an it's all an energy, and you let go, but I didn't. I held on to that, and so here we are. And uh he became a believer.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

That's awesome. Yeah, so that's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 43:26

He became a believer.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

That's very cool. Yeah. How long was he with the Toronto police?

SPEAKER_06 43:31

He was with the police for seven years. I assume seven years.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

I was just saying, I assume he took that position.

SPEAKER_06 43:35

So he did, he did. And he was with them for about seven years.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 43:39

And then COVID hit. Uh, and then he was put on a leave without pay. And I think that kind of dipped him in, and he was just like, We're yeah, and he's mentally it it broke him. We we lost a lot during that time. Our family was without pay. Both my businesses got shut down in Canada as well because of the COVID stuff shut down. So we were kind of pushed into a different direction, which I believe is what I manifested as well. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Can I ask you about your kids? Of course. How old are your kids?

SPEAKER_06 44:14

So I have two. I have one that's almost 16, she'll be 16 in in a few weeks, and one that's 14.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 44:20

Both girls. Uh yeah, one is a sophomore and the other one's a freshman.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

Nice. And they know everything.

SPEAKER_06 44:26

They know everything. Yeah. We're very open with them. We yeah, I try to be as as much of a friend to them as I can be. You know, there's a fine line between mother and being a friend. But yeah, we're very open with them. That's great. We talk about all of everything about what happened, COVID, all that.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

What brought you to the States?

SPEAKER_06 44:48

Ha ha ha ha. How much time do you have? I'm just waiting for the manifestation of it. It was a manifestation.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 44:56

I came to Arizona for my sister's bachelorette. It was a couple of years before COVID hit. So I want to say 2018. She got 2018 that she got married.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Like, oh my god, it's so warm here.

unknown 45:08

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:08

I was like, there is something about Arizona. It there's a vortex here. It's an energy here. When we landed in Arizona, I was like, I'm moving to Arizona. But you want me to do? Okay. I'm I'm in, like, whatever. Went back to Canada and I said to Steve, I said, I'd like to move to Arizona. And he was like, sit down. What what is the matter with you? He's like, I have this beautiful job, pension, you have your business. Like, what are we gonna do in Arizona? I was like, I don't know, we're going to Arizona. And he's like, We're not going to Arizona. Sit down, we're not doing this.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Did he blame me for COVID?

SPEAKER_06 45:48

So COVID two years late, two years goes by, and then COVID hits, and then all that stuff that happened with him at work and stuff, and I was like, I think it's Arizona. And then at that point, he's like, How do you do all of this? What is it with you?

SPEAKER_00 46:05

That's too funny.

SPEAKER_06 46:06

Yeah. And I was like, We're going to go to Arizona. And he's like, How are we gonna get there? I said, I don't know, but we're gonna look into it. We're that's that's where I'm being told that we're going. That's where like when I sit in silence and I pray, that's where it's guiding me to. I don't know what you want me to say.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 46:25

And he was like, Well, why not like Texas? Why not like Florida? And I was like, It's Arizona. So, so yeah, so it was Arizona. And then that's that's where the ball got rolling for Arizona.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

And uh how long have you been in Arizona now?

SPEAKER_06 46:40

So we came in 23. 23? Yeah, we came in 23 and we applied for a visa. We got denied a visa. They said, nope, go back to Canada, reapply from Canada. We're like, Mother. So packed up, went back to Canada. We are up reapplied from Canada and they gave it to us.

SPEAKER_04 46:59

And I was like, Really?

SPEAKER_06 47:00

Yeah, it was and then we came back. So we've been here. I arrived with the girls two years ago this summer, and Steve stayed back in Canada and he worked. He was still working with the Toronto police and he worked for a bit, but he was just not mentally in a good space, and he just uh and he broke down again. So the plan was for him to eventually come here, it was just a little bit sooner than we had anticipated because of his uh yeah. So it it was yeah, it was always supposed to be Arizona. And I remember when we first drove to Arizona, my kids were like, You are ruining our lives, you took us from our family, from our friends. I'm not even joking. This is word word for word, this is what they said.

SPEAKER_00 47:43

And now they're like, um never go. We're not going back.

SPEAKER_06 47:47

Like, no, we're not going back. I mean, we have a five-year residency visa, so we renew at the end of the five years, and you know, you never know, you never know what's in store. Like you never say never, right? You just kind of go with the flow of things, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

Toronto's a beautiful place, but too cold for me.

SPEAKER_06 48:06

Even in the summer. Yeah, yeah. I yeah, it's well, you're from Minnesota. That's cold.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

Well, I'm from I'm from Washington.

SPEAKER_06 48:14

That's cold too.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

Yeah, yeah. Not as bad as Minnesota or Toronto.

SPEAKER_06 48:19

Toronto's cold. Toronto's oh yeah. That's brutal. That's brutal. These things called ice quakes.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_06 48:26

So like the ground gets so cold and ice, it cracks, and you you hear it.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

No kidding.

SPEAKER_06 48:35

It's yeah, it is it's insane I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

It's called ice quakes.

SPEAKER_06 48:40

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 48:42

And it gets cold, and then you're just like, you just you just I I used to joke with friends that like come October, my body temperature drops, and it rises back up again in June.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

And I only have like July, August, and September, three months, and then we're back to well that's I I remember that you know growing up, and and really it's funny because I think it has gotten warmer now than it was when I was a kid, but still, I can remember, I mean, in the Seattle area, I used to travel all the time. People would say, Where are you from? I say Washington State, and they're immediately think Seattle. I'm like, Well, no, I grew up on the east side of the state, but I lived in Seattle for a while. But it truly, and they'll be like, Oh, it's so beautiful. There's like, when did you go? They're like, July or October. It's like, okay, go back in October or November, because it's cold and rainy and just miserable. And Seattle's rainy. Yeah, it's crazy. My brother lives in Ketchukan, and like I don't know how he does it. Like, I can't stand being cold. Yeah, I would take the heat every day. Me too, me too. And and you know, people are like, what are you doing? It's so hot. It's like the same thing you do when it's freezing cold.

SPEAKER_06 49:52

But at least like when you go outside, you're not dying from the cold. It's hot, it's it and it's hot, but it's I don't know, to me, it's still more manageable than the cold. I think so.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Yeah, well, and it I think it's there's a brevity to it, right? So like if you get in the car, the car's hot, yeah, but it cools down pretty quick, relatively, you know, and I'm going from air conditioned to the air conditioned car to the air conditioned, you know, and yeah, I'm outside. Or you go you go to dinner, or you go to the movie and it's freezing cold, and you go outside and you go, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:26

You're like, I'm just gonna fall out here.

SPEAKER_00 50:29

The first five minutes, you're like, oh, I feel so good out here. Okay, so you you come to Arizona and you decide you don't want to do aesthetician stuff anymore.

SPEAKER_06 50:41

Aesthetics, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Okay. Aesthetician aesthetic.

SPEAKER_06 50:44

It's it's fine. Same thing. Yeah, same thing.

SPEAKER_00 50:45

So you decide you don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_06 50:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:47

What drove you down the road of well, talk to me about the Reiki stuff because obviously you were you were kind of quasi-practicing it individually, but were you doing it in your business as well? I was. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:01

So just right after Steve got hired, I got my Reiki level one. And I only did level one because you do your Reiki master if you are planning on teaching, and you know, and I never wanted to do that, so I just stayed at Reiki One because it in with the laws of the universe, once you have that and somebody asks you, you have to um teach them, right? And I didn't want to do that. Gotcha. I just stuck I just stuck with the Reiki one, and yes, I incorporated that in my skincare and I saw amazing results. So I would do this uh holistic facial. It was a two and a half hour facial, so it included your facial, your skincare. Plus, on top of that, I did all the energy work, I did tuning forks and and and using guasha stones and just charging the body with positive energy. So it was, and I and I started to see great, great results with it. And I got sick. So, how did I get into like wanting to do holistics? So I got sick, I got really, really sick. I want to say it was 20 2019. 2019, I got really sick. I we went to Great Wolf Lodge with the kids and I picked up some virus there, which they wouldn't test me for to see what it was, but it was a virus, it attacked my thyroids. Oh wow, and I ended up with what was what's called viral thyroiditis, but I got misdiagnosed four times before they realized what it was, and I almost died. So basically, my thyroid got so inflamed, it was pushing on my airways, I wasn't able to breathe through my through my mouth anymore, I could only breathe nasally. I lost my voice. I my my muscles started to give out on me, my heart rate went really, really high, and that's when they ended up hospitalizing me because they said that I was on the verge of having like had I not gone into the hospital that night, which was by miracle that I ended up going, I I would have had a heart attack in my bed and I would have died. I I wouldn't have survived. So I came out of the hospital and I was really sick. I was really, really sick. I was on heart medication, I was on thyroid medication. The endocrinologist that saw me, she said, we don't know what the damage is at this point. There allegedly there was a tear on my thyroid, which I don't even know if that's like how is that even a possibility? And uh she said, We'll have to kind of you know keep you in check and see what happens. You might be on medication for the rest of your life, we don't know. And I couldn't I couldn't accept that. I was like, no, like that, like we God didn't create us so that we can break. Yeah, we we have to be able to fix me. I met a lady, her she's a holistic practitioner, she did aridology. So she looks through the iris of the eye and she can see what's going on in your body. And uh yeah, it's it's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

I've never heard of that either. I'm learning stuff.

SPEAKER_06 53:55

I I know I I'd never heard of that uh until then. So I went to see her and she did a whole bunch of testing on me. She had all these like viruses, vials of viruses that she does muscle testing on you with and whatever, and she narrowed it down to I had I'd been attacked with the H1N1 virus. No kidding. And and it attacked my thyroids and not, you know, your stomach. You would get stomach flu, whatever. This attacked the thyroid, which is like allegedly it's the your chances of winning the lottery is a lot higher.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 54:24

It's like great, I didn't fucking win the lottery, but I won this. Yeah, exactly. Um, so anyways, right? So she she really helped me get on the holistic side of things. Then she was like, I cannot tell you to get off your medication. That's not my that's not what I'm here for. But I'm gonna give you a whole bunch of different herbal supplements that you're going to supplement with. And hopefully, this will be enough that you can get off your medication, right? So we started that, and I went to see her a couple of times a week, and she did all kinds of different things on me. And uh at my eight-week visit with my endocrinologist, you have to go and get blood taken, and then they, you know, look at your hormone levels and whatever. And she was like, huh. She's like, This is strange. What are you doing? And I was like, I don't know, just taking some supplements. And she's like, hmm. She's like, everything is leveled off. We're gonna take you off your medication. I want you to come back in four weeks to see if that changes anything. And I was like, Oh, okay. So I get off my meds. I was still on my heart medication. I get off my meds, I go back in four weeks, and she's like, I'm discharging you. Yeah, and she's like, We're taking you off your heart medication too. And I was like, Oh.

SPEAKER_04 55:37

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 55:38

I healed, yeah, I healed, like this is insane. Like they told me that that was not might not be a possibility. And if I hadn't gone to see Carla, I probably wouldn't have healed. Um, but that just really got me going. Like, okay, there is a different way of healing, we don't always need to go down the medical, Western medical route, and that's where things started to really manifest for me, and we just really changed our entire household. Even prior to that, we were a very holistic household, but like this really pushed us to the other side. And so when we thought of what we're going to do in Arizona, and I was like, I want to do something holistic. This is what we want to do. And we found the harmonic egg, and we found the vibroacoustic therapy beds, and we had used the salt room during COVID for healing, and I was like, this is what I want, this is what we want to do. And so that's that that's that's how tinted salt was born is from something that almost died.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

But the reborn, the phoenix. Oh, that's it!

SPEAKER_04 56:44

We're here. Oh my god, I just got goosebumps.

SPEAKER_00 56:46

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

It is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 56:49

Have you been to the mission? The restaurant, the mission? No. So there's one in Scottsdale, they just opened one at uh Eggertopia in the Tyler.

SPEAKER_05 56:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

And it's a Mexican infusion type restaurant. But the reason I ask is because we walk in and they have the is it Mediterranean salt that you have? Yeah, yeah. The walls? The Himalayan salt. So they have Himalayan salt bricks in the pillars on the wall. And then if you order the corn tortillas, they actually bring them on a Himalayan salt brick.

SPEAKER_06 57:24

Brick? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

I was like, and the only reason I knew that is because I've been to your shops.

SPEAKER_06 57:29

Yeah. I was like, well, because salt is a natural product from the earth and it has an energy. Everything from the earth, everything has an energy, right? And it changes the energy of your food. So when people cook on it, they cook on it or they serve food on it. It changes the energy of the food.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

Well, I will tell you, I think the pork that I had there was probably the best pork I've ever had. I mean, it was a I don't remember what it was called, but but it was like a But they're not Mediterranean.

SPEAKER_06 57:56

It's a Mexican restaurant, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:58

It's a Mexican, it's a Mexican infusion type thing. So it's not like like tacos and stuff like that. Tacos and burritos and although we had chips and salsa.

SPEAKER_04 58:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:07

But but I had like a remember what it was that I but it was like a a pork roll roll. It's called the Mission. It was like a pork roll that had uh chorizo and something, but it was rolled and it was like smoked. It was delicious. Christine had a uh clam chow uh clam stew.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

So both were very good. Very good. But I've I thought of you I know this stuff.

SPEAKER_06 58:37

I've been there. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh, that's Hamily.

SPEAKER_00 58:40

So so you decide to open Tinted Salt.

unknown 58:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:44

How long have we been open now? A year?

SPEAKER_06 58:46

Uh no, nine months.

SPEAKER_00 58:47

No, really? Okay. Okay, so just nine months. Talk to me about it. Talk to me about what you guys do.

SPEAKER_06 58:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

Give me your pitch.

SPEAKER_06 58:55

Okay. Oh, right. Or you don't have to give me your pitch. No. Just okay, so tinted salt.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

So our listeners know what you do.

SPEAKER_06 59:00

Okay. So we created Tinted Salt to have a holistic wellness center where we can help people heal. Okay. We're not we're not a biohack clinic. We're not what a place where you go and you do this service, this service, the, you know, a circuit kind of thing. Like we don't do that. Everybody comes in with different issues, different problems, different things that they need to work on. We help them navigate that. We work with sound light and vibration therapy. That's and we everything we do at Tinted Salt from the harmonic egg to the vibroacoustic therapy beds, the red light therapy beds, or the salt room is to reset the autonomic nervous system. We all live at this state of fight and flight at all times. Like 99.9% of us live up here all the time. That's not where we're supposed to be. Fight and flight is supposed to be for when you're actually about to die. Your body kicks in and like adrenaline. Right? We don't we cannot be here all the time. So we want to bring that state of mind to a parasympathetic state where your nervous system goes, okay, now the nervous system is calm. Now it your body naturally knows what to do and heal itself. Okay. That's what we want to do with people. So with the harmonic egg, we use sound therapy and we use light therapy, chromotherapy. So that's light colors. So different colors of light have different effects on the body. So for example, somebody that comes in with PTSD, we'll use a lot of the blues and the greens and the purples. Those are more of a calming color. But let's say somebody came in and they want to work on fertility. We'll use the reds, the oranges, the yellows. Those are more stimulating colors. So everything has a purpose. And we use the songs with a purpose as well. Somebody has a liver issue. We use songs with the piano, the flute. But somebody who has anxiety, depression, or Parkinson's, we'll use some sort of the drummings. So everything is done in a way to help the body heal. Different frequencies help different things. So that's how the harmonic egg works. And the fibroacoustic therapy bed pretty much does that. It has its own curated music. That music is more of those binaural beats. The speakers are built inside the bed. So now you're getting both the frequencies over a set of headphones that you're listening to while you're lying down on a bed that vibrates to that music. So you're getting vibration therapy and frequency therapy.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:30

A red light therapy beds. Red light therapy is probably the most researched out of all the therapies that we use. Red light therapy is great for a slew of different things. Things like skincare. I used to use those face masks during my facials when I did that in my aesthetics era. Um, we can go in a little bit deeper and hit those muscles for muscle recovery. We can go deeper and hit injury levels, pain, inflammation, post-surgery recovery. Then we have infrared light on our. So that's that deeper um penetration of the wavelength of energy, and it's invisible to the human eye. So the lights look like it's off, which is kind of weird. And that helps with neurology stuff. So anxiety, depression, PTSD, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, ADHD, autism, head injuries, anything like that we can help with. We had those beds actually made for us for tinted salt. We wanted something very specific. So when we ordered those beds, we want these four settings on them because we wanted to be able to help a variety of different things. And then we have the salt room. The salt room is wow, it's it's an amazing room. The entire room is built with Himalayan salt bricks. So automatically, when you walk into the room, the energy in the room shifts because it's a natural product from the earth. Everything from the earth, everything has an energy, has a vibration. And then what we do is we take pharmaceutical great salt, we put it inside a halo generator, which is a machine on the other side of the wall of the salt room, and then we crush it to a fine powder form and blow it into the room. So we now infuse the room with dry salt particles, and you're inhaling that. It's called dry salt therapy, halo therapy. And it's good for your respiratory tracts, upper and lower. Any asthma, allergies, bronchitis, COPD, emphysema, long COVID, pneumonia, any viral bacterial infection of the lungs and sinuses, it helps clear it out. It also helps reset your nervous system. Well, how how? How does that happen? You're breathing in that salt, it's going inside the airways, it's pushing your airways open. Now your lungs are able to hold a little bit more oxygen, the little bit more oxygen. Your cells, your organs, your muscles, everything starts to work more prompt, and your body just automatically gets out of this fight and flight and down to a parasympathetic state. Then your body falls down there and you just your body heals. So people that have a lot of anxiety and depression love coming in that room because it is almost like the only place where they can relax. It's the bizarreest thing, but it works.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

How how do you I'm gonna I don't know how else to say what I'm gonna say, so I'm gonna say something and I don't intend to offend if anyone go for it. If somebody thinks of it as a foo-foo movie, woo-woo, you know, witch doctor type stuff, how how do you get past that with somebody? I mean, obviously with your husband, he had that same thought and then now he's come around because he's bought in.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:26

So I lured him in. We do add, we do get a lot of people that are just like, oh, I just I I just want to come in for a relaxation. Like, ah, there's nothing wrong with me. And I I just like a spa day type of thing. And it's like, okay, well, when they come in and they experience it, that's when things change. We had this guy come in, came in, and he's like, My wife's making me do this. I was like, okay. If you feel uncomfortable, you don't want to do it, you really don't have to like, we don't take offense to any of that. We understand everybody's different. He's like, No, I'll do it. I'll I'll do it. It's like it's fine. And he goes in the salt room, and when I went to get him out, he was sound asleep. So I knocked on the door, like I opened the door and I just like kind of knocked, and he's like, Oh, he's like, What happened here? And I was like, Oh, you fell asleep. And he's like, No, he didn't, but you did. It's been an hour, like it's been 45 minutes, but later, the next time he came in on his own, he was like, That was the only time that was able to fall down into a deep sleep. I haven't been able to do that for a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:31

He's like, I he's like, I don't remember the last time I actually was able to take a nap and somebody woke me up from it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:38

So I was like, I was like, I don't know, like, do you still he's like he's like, I believe it now. He's like, now I know why she made me come in.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:45

So and then there's people that you you'll never win them over. Yeah, and and and it's okay. It's not for everyone. Everybody will get to where they want to be at their own timeline. Like there's no forcing people to do something that is not comfortable for them. Yeah, I don't get offended by people not wanting to come to our center or you know, they're like, oh no, I don't believe in that stuff. And it's okay. There is something for everyone, and that's not that may not be for everyone.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:15

But I wish everybody would give it one try because it's it is life-changing.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:20

Yeah, yeah. Yeah aside from that story you just shared, yeah. Have you witnessed in the nine months that you've been there situations where people have experienced we'll call it healing, I guess, if you will.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:33

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely, yes. We at the very beginning, when we first opened, we had this young lady. Her mom was very worried about her. She was basically anxiety, depression, not getting out of bed, not moving. It was it was awful, it was awful. Her mom made her come in for one session, and we did the first session we did for her, we did a red light therapy session, coupled it with our vibroacoustic therapy, and then we put her in the salt room and then she went home. And then we booked her in again for the following week, and she sat in the egg. And after the egg session, after the first session, after the egg session it was, she called and she said, I'm feeling so much better. I'd like to book another appointment. And this time she came on her own. This time her mom didn't have to drag her in. And she did five back-to-back sessions in the harmonic egg. And by the time her fifth session finished, she was able to pack her bag and move to another state to go to university, which was her mom's biggest worry that she wasn't be going to be able to do this. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we do see it. We see it all the time. So that was like that was at the very beginning, which was a confirmation for Steve and I where we were like, Okay, you we did this. We did this for the right reasons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:53

So yeah. Yeah. With regards to and I can't remember exactly how you put it, but not being, you know, bumpy from one station to the next station.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:04

Oh, the um you put it I I did say biohacking.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:08

Yeah, biohacking.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

Talk to me about what that what that means to you.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:12

So a lot of a lot of places they um consider them themselves a biohack, right? So like they hack the system, right? So you do a cool plunge and then you go in the the so it's hacking your system. It's like shocking your system. We don't believe in that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:28

We believe that your system should not be shocked, that your system needs to be eased into and we need to take you out of that fight and flight. So putting your body in a fight and flight mode just so that it would calm down again is to us, it's counterproductive.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:46

Okay. So for us, like sometimes people will book an appointment and it's like they booked it for the harmonic egg, and they come in and we read their intake form, and we're like, you know, you would be best suited to do this other thing first because for what you what you want to achieve, this will do better for you, or vice versa. Like they have booked something else, and we're like, this is what you need to do. So for us, it's not it's not a one size fits all. So not every person that comes in can do, you know, that and I just use the cold plunge as an example to do the cold plunge and then go into the hot and then like not every person is going to get the same result.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:24

Gotcha, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:25

So putting this every person on the harm in the harmonic egg is not going to give them the result that they want. Maybe they do need to do something different to get to where they want to be. So for us, it's it it it's it's not a one-size-fits-all. It's every person has their individual needs and we're very intentional in what we offer. It, you know, we we're not there just to make a dollar. If for me, it's more important that you get what you want out of it, and we try so hard to work with people so that they can come in regularly.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:58

How would people find Tinted Salt?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:01

Um, we're on all social platforms. Okay. So Instagram, Facebook, Tik X, TikTok, although mostly I would say the first two, Instagram, and Facebook is our biggest one. We do have a YouTube channel. We're just starting to get that going as well. We have a website, tinted salt.com, there as well. Emails. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:24

That's where where where do you go from here? What's the what's the big picture idea? I mean, are you happy with the one location? Do you want multiple locations?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:33

I'm happy with the one location. I'm grateful for it, but I think we would like to have multiple locations. We get a lot of people coming from out of town, they're visiting family, friends, and then they come here and they're like, Oh my gosh, we need this in my state, in my city. And then we're just like, Yeah, we do, because what we offer is so different, it's so unique, it's not something that anyone else is offering, and it works, right? So, yes, we would like to open up more locations in the valley as well as outside of Arizona, Tucson, maybe even in Arizona. So, yeah, we would like that. That would be that is that is my ultimate goal is to really allow people to have access to these types types of therapies where sound and vibration and light therapies are that's where it's at right now. The world is changing, we're in a shift.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:26

Yeah, I think people are seeing people are starting to realize Western medicine, and I'm not bashing Western medicine, but I feel like Western medicine is more of you know a band-aid over the top of the wound rather than carrying the wound.

unknown 1:11:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:41

And I think people are starting to see that, and I think what's probably driving it faster than typical would be the insurance aspect of things. And people want more quality care, you know, so they're like, well, I don't want 13 minutes with a doctor, I want half an hour, an hour with a doctor, you know. So having having things that, you know, mind, body, spirit type stuff where people can look at a holistic perspective and say, you know, how do I align myself? It's interesting. I I I find what you're doing very interesting, and I've experienced the the salt room, which was fascinating, and I happen to fall asleep in there as well. But that you talk to people who know me, know that I can fall asleep in there. Can't receive anywhere? Okay. Anywhere, anywhere, anytime.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:24

So you're not an anomaly.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:25

Oh no, no, no. I I learned I I fought forest fires for six years, and I learned when you get a chance, yeah, go to sleep. So that was that was my thing. But um, anyway, so what what else do we need to know about Aaliyah that I have not talked about or that you wanted to share today that I don't know, I think we kind of hit on everything.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:47

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:48

What's your favorite food? Random question.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:51

Random question. Oh my god, that is random. I don't really have a favorite. I I like all I like all foods, uh all dishes. Yeah, I don't have a favorite. I there's nothing there's nothing that is like, oh, this is what I'm craving to have. All no.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:07

It just depends on your mood.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:08

I'm a foodie though. Like I like all foods. I like Persian food, obviously, because I'm Persian. Like, how could you not? I like Indian food, I like Italian, I love Greek food, I like uh all kinds of foods. I like yeah, I I don't think there's one that is like, oh that's I like a good steak. I'm not a steak person. Yeah, I like a really good steak.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

Now if if if it is a really good steak and it's been cooked properly, I could definitely go for it, but I'm just never been a huge steak person.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:37

But no, I like a good steak. Yeah. Yeah. I mean nothing, nothing that pops like no. I'm not really a big pizza person either. But if it's a good pizza, I'll have that.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:50

Yeah. I recently started doing sourdough pizzas, so I make my own sourdough and yeah, so that's been good.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

So you have a what do they call it? The mother starter? The starter, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 1:14:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:02

Some in my fridge, some on my counter. Oh really? Sourdough all the time.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:06

That's awesome. Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:08

Um yeah, I don't think there's anything in particular that is on I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:14

If if somebody doesn't know anything about the business, doesn't know anything, uh they've heard the term now is tinted salt. Right? They've heard us talk about Himalayan salt, heard us talk about light beds and sound booths and or harmonic eggs and and things like that. Where would be a good place to just say, hey, start here? Somebody calls up and says, I just want to experience something.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:35

I I would say to experience it in person. Yeah. I would say start with the salt room.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:40

Yeah. Start with the salt room and go from there. Because the salt room is it's phenomenal. It's so good for so many things. I remember when we first started taking the kids to the salt room, they were a lot younger. And uh we just noticed that they were just better behaved children and they just listened more. They did their work, their schoolwork without fickering at one another. And at first we didn't really put two and two together.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:03

But over time I was like, how come on the days that we do the salt room, they're better?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:09

So when we approached the facilitator at the salt room that we're using in Canada, she's like, Well, yeah, of course they're gonna be better. They get more oxygen. I'm like, What? What? Can you like explain that to me? So when she did, and then we then we were like, uh uh oh. And then I and I remember I was like, Steve, I want a salt room. And he's like, sit down. And I was like, like, I'm just gonna manifest it for you. I'm just gonna manifest this.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:35

Hey, we gotta put tile on the wall anyways, you may as well just make it Himalayan salt tile.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:39

So yeah. He's always like, if I if if I ask for something, and then he looks at me and I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna get it anyways. So like just just hand it over. It just depends on if I get it now, six months, six years, I'm I'm gonna get it. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

It will show up at my door.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:56

But but to me, I think uh what I really would like to get across to everyone and anyone out there is that everything is an energy field, everything is a vibration. We human beings are vibrational being. You know, you meet someone and you're like or you meet someone, you're like, oh like they just I connected with that person. It's the person's aura field, it's their energy field. That's that's all it is, right? So if we can understand that, uh was it Nicola Tesla, he said, if we can understand energy, we can unlock the secrets of the universe, right? That's that's where we're at. Like, let's just understand it, let's see where we're going to go with it. You know, you uh have you ever done the the ice challenge uh ice bucket challenge? No, no, it's like so you have two cups of water and one of them you speak very negatively negatively to, and then the other one you just speak the most beautiful things to it, and you put them both in the freezer. And then then you take them out the next day and see what happens to them. We've actually done that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:00

Oh, I'm gonna have to go home and try this, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:02

So the one that that we spoke very kindly to, like literally had the most beautiful crystals on the top, and it was perfect. And the one that we spoke negative to, it was like like popping out on really yeah, like the the um and same amount of water from the same place, same temperature, like everything was the same, and like the plastic cup has like cracked on the sides, and like yeah, so everything is an energy, so you manifest what you say, right? That's why I always tell people like say things, be kind to yourself because what your your subconscious mind cannot distinguish between reality and fiction. So what you say is always going to be reality to you, to your to your subconscious mind. So if I if I say I can't do this, then it's like no, you can't do this, but if I I'm I'm um I got this, I'm gonna do it. This is gonna be great, then your body actually goes with that. So yeah, I think that that's like the one thing that that I would like everyone to kind of keep in mind all the time and just be kind to yourselves, just say kind things and don't be so judgmental of yourself. I mean, you can judge other people. I mean, I judge you all the time, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:12

I I judge myself all the time too. I don't, I try to jump. I judge everybody else. You know what's funny though?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:17

I try not to.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:18

Funny is I make up stories about people.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:22

Like I love watching people and making up stories about just by their their demeanor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:29

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's probably so horrible of me. But and it's not bad. It's not like I'm making bad stories, it's just like I'm like, oh well. But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:37

I try to always keep in mind, like, you don't know what a person's been through, you don't know where they're coming from. You know, they I'll give you this one last thing, and then if you need to wrap it up, we can. I had a client come in and she was literally the meanest person to me. She was so mean, she was so demeaning to me. Like she was just but I was like, you know what, Aliah, let her be. You don't know what's going on with her. And she had two sessions in our harmonic egg. On that second session, she came out and I was coming in. So she Steve was there, and she held the door open for me and she hugged me and she said she was sorry. Really? Yeah. And I was like, okay. Like, you just don't know. You don't know what they're going through, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:22

And it's so hard to remember that sometimes, you know, when you're in a hurry and there's two people driving in front of you in a 45, they're going 35. You're like, okay, one of you is just stupid, the other one's on your phone, get out of the way.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:33

Or you're just driving a Toyota Corolla. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:36

That's funny. But you know, it's and it's tough, but I try to remember that. You know, it's like, okay, look, number one, if if somebody calls me with an issue, yeah, you know, insurance, I need to be present and aware of what's going on in that person because that's their emergency right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:53

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:54

And if they're ripping at me, it's because of something is happening in their life, not because of something I've done. And it could be that they're calling me names, whatever. But I think about that sometimes when when I get, you know, on the phone and and it is somebody from overseas that doesn't necessarily understand what you're trying to say, and then you're like, just give me somebody who can talk to me, you know, and it's like, and I don't want it to come across rude to them, but it's like I need to get, you know, and and I'm using that as an example, but it happens all the time, you know, where you you know, wait staff brings food to you and it's half cooked. Yeah, don't rip into the wait staff. Yeah, it's not their fault.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:35

Get the cook out here.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:36

Yeah, exactly. Uh anyway, so well, hey, I really appreciate you coming on.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:41

Oh my god, this was so much fun. Thank you for getting to know me. I really appreciate it. This was amazing. Thank you guys. Thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:48

Well, thank you, Aliyah. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you coming on. I have a gift.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:52

Oh, for for me? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:54

Everybody gets a gift.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:56

Really? What am I getting?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:58

Well, first you get a coin. It's a challenge coin because you accepted the challenge to come on the show. So you get a challenge. And then you also get you're gonna tell me what it is, or I'm gonna open it this way. You can open it. You open it.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:12

Oh pick up one of those.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:15

I thought it was there.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:17

And then if you look at the other side. So yeah, so so everybody gets one of those, and that's just my appreciation. I mean, I don't think you drink it with water.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:29

I do drink it with water.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:33

So but I really appreciate the modest thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:37

This is a wheel, and I went above the deal.