The Health Huns
The Messy Side of Health and Fitness!
Your favourite amateur athletes keeping it real, discussing the messy side of health and fitness
The Health Huns
EP.8 Nutrition Myths: The Truth Beyond the Trends
Ever wondered why nutrition advice feels like it's constantly contradicting itself? In this refreshingly honest discussion, we cut through the noise surrounding what we eat, exposing how the same basic principles of nutrition have been endlessly repackaged and complicated by the wellness industry.
We tackle the simplicity that's been lost in modern nutrition discourse by highlighting an eye-opening truth: most seven-year-olds can tell you the basics of healthy eating better than adults confused by trending diets and Instagram nutritionists. This childlike wisdom—eat your vegetables, enjoy treats sometimes, have a bit of everything—remains the foundation of sensible eating that many of us have forgotten.
The episode dismantles persistent food myths that cause unnecessary anxiety: no, carbs don't make you fat (your brain actually needs them to function); detox teas are unnecessary (your liver already does this job); and eating after 8pm won't magically make you gain weight. We explore how these misconceptions lead to restrictive behaviors and unhealthy relationships with food.
We also examine popular dietary approaches including carnivore, keto, plant-based, and intermittent fasting with balanced perspective—acknowledging both potential benefits and limitations while emphasizing that no single approach works for everyone. Throughout our conversation, we return to a powerful, simple message: you deserve to eat, food should bring joy, and nutrition doesn't need to be complicated.
Join us for this judgment-free discussion that celebrates food freedom over restriction, and practical wisdom over trending fads. Have you fallen prey to nutrition myths? Share your experiences with us on social media or email us at thehealthhanspod@gmail.com!
Because I am full of vitamin D. Hello and welcome to the Health Huns, the pod where we discuss the messy side of health and fitness.
Speaker 2:From gym fails to newfound communities.
Speaker 1:We're here to help you feel like less of a failure and find your place in the messy world of health and fitness.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello and welcome back to another episode of the Health Huns. Episode number is nine.
Speaker 1:Eight, seven, eight, eight, eight. We'll go with eight. I think it's eight, which means we are heading towards ten double digits.
Speaker 2:Should we do a giveaway for number 10? Yeah what should we give away? A pug? No, I wouldn't give you away. No, I wouldn't give you away either.
Speaker 1:They are part of the team. I don't know. What do you think people want?
Speaker 2:Well, let us know what do you want? Or do you like a giveaway, because we don't have much to give away at this moment in time.
Speaker 1:But if you tell us we'll try Anything.
Speaker 2:that's not selling on Vinted for you at the minute, emma, anything that's not selling on Vintage for you at the minute.
Speaker 1:I've got bags of clothes for Vintage there we go Win a mystery bag.
Speaker 2:Perfect. How has your week been out of 10?
Speaker 1:Give me it I'd say, oh God, it's been up and down. There's been parts that have been 10 and there's been parts that have been 1. So maybe a 5. Maybe a 5. What's been up?
Speaker 2:and down. There's been parts that have been ten and there's been parts that have been one. So maybe a five, maybe a five. What's been up and down about it? What's?
Speaker 1:been the best part? What's been the worst part? The best part was going to the triathlon on Sunday. Oh yeah, tell us about that. Oh my God, it's just so much fun. Like you're just moving around, you can get a coffee. It's a really good vibe, right. Like compared to like a running event, which they are okay, like, run norwich is fun, but it's still not as fun as the norwich triathlon there's not as much going on.
Speaker 2:I guess it's just a run, but it's just a run.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've got like the sprint triathlon, the standard. You've got a duathlon. You've got relays, so everyone's doing different things. People are swimming, people are biking, like, and it's just really exciting is it a friendly community?
Speaker 2:did you get that kind of vibe?
Speaker 1:um, it wasn't unfriendly. I wouldn't say like anybody's, particularly like. I think if you know people, obviously they're talking to each other yeah but it's, there's real good vibes good vibes all around yeah okay, so you had what's the worst part of your week then? The worst part of my week was having to do a 10k run last night and I wore a sports bra rather than like normally I just wear like these kind of crop toppy things right, and it was so tight I couldn't Like. I genuinely could not breathe after 5K.
Speaker 2:The struggle of finding the right sports bra that is supportive but breathable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Is really hard, especially if you're not, if you've got something to hold on to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I don't really have very big boobs, like, so it's sort of okay and I've got this.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to show you Like it's sort of okay and I've got this, I'm just going to show you like it's a savage fenty kind of it says it's low impact but like it's fine, you feel secure, I feel really secure. So we're gonna do that sports bra, sell it, I mean I'll be part of my giveaway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, win my sports bra worn, I haven't washed it yet. We could make some money from that, maybe, okay. So yeah, that was the down point. I mean, I was pleased that I did it and we weren't much slower than like, considering how much we walked, we weren't much slower than we normally are. So you know. But there's this heat in general and running it's a lot, isn't it? It's making me hate running, but I know that as soon as the temperature drops and it's not so muggy and humid, it's the humidity I think you just can't get away from, even in the shade.
Speaker 2:It's just, oh, it's awful. You can't breathe, no, you can't. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. So what about your week? Do you know what? I've had a good week, I'd say. I've got about. I've had about an 8 out of 10 week. That is a good week.
Speaker 2:I also did a 10k on Sunday. You were like a whippet which I got up early, so I kind of missed the main bulk of the heat, but it was still hot, don't get me wrong. And the best part about that 10k was I got to run with the 7am club.
Speaker 1:Whoa, how do you feel? Well, honoured really.
Speaker 2:Not only did I run with them, I led them at one point. Amazing I was leading the pack. I was the alpha in that group. I mean, you pretty much are anyway Well you know, I did stop to let them all pass because I didn't want them to be embarrassed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:So I did let them go on.
Speaker 2:But, that was a real highlight of that run, because I was cracking up. Do you know what I started doing To distract myself from running? I've started thinking of what I can put on my Strava afterwards, like how I'm going to describe my run, and I was cackling to myself Just the fact that I was running with a 7.1 cup. I love that. So that was probably like a big highlight of my week. I'm excited to get back to Gage 5K. Yes, on Sunday I missed it. We've got a new venue, which I think is going to be really good for us. I'm quite looking forward to the route. Actually, yeah, me too. We're organising events. Yes, looking forward to the route. Actually, yeah, me too. We're organizing events. Yes, do you know what? We've got stuff to look forward to, haven't we? We have, and I just love that. We're creating a space for us and our friends and people, like-minded people yes I just I'm looking forward to our meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's tomorrow. Yeah, which I'm looking forward to. That's crazy, having a little drink and a little planning session.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just having a good old time I'd just like to add that another low point of my week was park run on saturday oh yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 2:oh, you know what it's fucking horrible.
Speaker 1:It was so hot it was so hot.
Speaker 2:It was like one of the hottest days of the year so far I've never seen so many people walking like it was horrible 30 degrees Saturday, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, 32 degrees, even at like that time of day in Caton Park, there's no shade.
Speaker 2:No, and it's hilly, isn't it? Yeah, there's one big hill.
Speaker 1:Well, there's like four hills, but you have to do each hill twice.
Speaker 2:Oh. Yeah, it's horrible like it was probably the first run that I was like I think I'm just gonna stop. To be fair. When I was on that 10k run I was thinking thank god I didn't get into the marathon.
Speaker 1:We didn't get in.
Speaker 2:We didn't get in, but it's okay because, yeah, I'm gonna do a triathlon next year, and I'm probably gonna end up doing it with amber, because I'm nothing but a follower when it comes to Amber and it's gonna make some great content, because not only will we have running content, we'll have cycling and swimming yep and I think what we should do is get something to film some training sessions, I think we should because it would be hilarious yeah, honestly, like I mean I've, I've, I've gone all in this week.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at tri suits well, you gave me a demo on your bike.
Speaker 1:I gave you a demo on my bike that doesn't have any pedals yet and the seat isn't up properly, but like yeah.
Speaker 2:An athlete.
Speaker 1:I'm excited. Do you know what? I'm actually more excited about that than I would be doing a marathon, because I feel like it's more achievable, especially if you start with a sprint, the distance isn't manageable.
Speaker 2:I like it's more achievable, especially if you start with a sprint.
Speaker 1:the distance, yeah, I don't think I'd ever want to do more than a sprint, to be honest, because I just I actually don't like running 10k it's boring, it's a long time.
Speaker 2:I, yeah, yeah, I think if you maybe were doing this in the winter it might be a bit more like uh fulfilling when you finish it but when it's just this hot, it's too much yeah one last thing before we get on to actually what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Um, guess, I actually got myself something. I got a new running vest. Oh, how is it? It's actually good. I tried it on. Yeah, I haven't done a run in it yet, but it's meshy, so it should be quite breathable. I'm assuming it fits nice. It's got lots of pockets, lots of storage. So I was actually influenced by our own podcast episode. I brought myself a new running vest. How did that go? Oh my God, it's so good because it's more breathable.
Speaker 1:So I had the Arctic Fit one before and I used to get really sweaty in it, and I've got an innovate one now, which is what matthew green uses. But they do different sizes depending on the distance you're running. So this is like if you're running up to a half marathon, um, which apparently you're never gonna do I'm never gonna do, but I like having a running vest, like keys drinks everything. So, yes, good, it's breathable and I didn't feel so hot.
Speaker 2:I will give you a review next week. I'll be wearing it Sunday. Excellent, you'll be the first to see it.
Speaker 1:I'm excited. I'm gonna take a picture of you in it oh, thank you very much so we should get on with this what are we talking about today?
Speaker 2:why are we here?
Speaker 1:well, we asked people on our Instagram to choose what we were talking about at the health hands, pod, yes, uh, and I think people maybe think we're going to be more serious than we actually are which is weird if you've listened to the previous seven episodes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and know us in real life yeah.
Speaker 1:However, it was a choice between what is wellness? We lost a pug no, she says okay what is wellness and nutrition? And the people spoke. They wanted nutrition, which doesn't surprise me, no, because we are a world that is obsessed with what we eat what size it makes us.
Speaker 2:And, specifically, what's this magic combination or approach that's going to grant us, you know, the ability to live forever, to look young forever and to be thin? Ultimately? Yeah, and I think you can't really argue with that.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Especially at the minute. Yeah, in fact, nutrition's out. I was then picking. Yeah, don't worry about what you eat.
Speaker 1:Just do that. So I mean, I guess we should start with warning. We are not nutritionists, no.
Speaker 2:No, we're not. Disclaimer, this isn't medical advice.
Speaker 1:No, this is just our opinions and what we have found works for us doesn't work for us. What we have found works for us doesn't work for us. Our our views on some things and uh, yeah, just just a couple of couple of gals talking about stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean, granted, I feel like we've been in the trenches when it comes to nutrition. You on your own personal weight loss journey, yeah, me just being in that industry with it all. So we're not amateurs. No, but we want to make clear that this is not advice. No.
Speaker 1:It isn't.
Speaker 2:You should do this. You shouldn't do this. It's a discussion. And if you would like to add to this discussion, get in touch. Yes, because I think this is going to be an ongoing topic.
Speaker 1:we'll come back to time and time again I think this is for eternity forever and ever, we're going to be sitting in this cupboard when we're 50, which is actually not that long for me to be fair. Seven years, um and uh.
Speaker 2:Just talking about the same thing, yeah, yeah, so should we get into it. So Rhi.
Speaker 1:I mean, what are your personal views and what do you think about nutrition?
Speaker 2:Nutrition. I think the simpler it is kept, the better for me. I always use this example. If you ask a five seven year old what is a healthy diet, they're probably gonna say something along the lines of fruit and veg. They're gonna think about the food wheel or child or the food pyramid. Yeah, not too many sweets and chocolate, not too many fizzy drinks. Uh, make sure you eat your vegetables and you have a bit of everything. Like most young children probably have that base level of understanding from what they're taught at school yeah that's what I was taught at school.
Speaker 2:That's what I kind of believed growing up yeah, that is actually a pretty valid point as well. Yeah, and I think what has happened has been the rise of, obviously, social media and, even before that, the diet books yeah the Jane Fonders of the world.
Speaker 2:I know that's more exercise, but you've you've had for years these different diets that have gained popularity and then lost popularity, and they've all over complicated the same basic principles, which is, if you want to lose weight, you probably maybe have to change up what you're doing. Maybe that is eating a bit less of certain foods and a bit more of other things. Um, make sure you get your five fruit and veggie day and all that kind of stuff and have variety in your meals. Yeah, that, unless you've got some sort of intolerance to some foods or you know certain things affect you in a certain way. I'd probably give that as blanket guidance to most people, as a very easy principle to follow. That is my own personal approach to nutrition. Is I follow a balanced diet approach? Yeah, moderation, yeah, variety, colour on my plate. I mean, that is, that's it. That's all I think when I eat.
Speaker 1:I don't think I even think that much no well, yeah, it's more of a habit there's not much going on in this tiny little brain.
Speaker 1:um, I I think that the way that I have approached nutrition has had to change at different points in my journey. So, like, to begin with, because I was kind of quite out of control, I did need some rules and I needed structure, and, to be honest, I probably ate a lot more when I first started losing weight than I do now, and I I mean, and, but I guess I needed to eat more food then because I was bigger, and that's just how it works, isn't it? But I just think the one thing you cannot do is be restrictive.
Speaker 2:No, it's tricky, isn't it? Because we said this earlier, sometimes you have to go through these learning experiences of restriction or following these fad diets to then come out the other side and have that more balanced approach. Yeah, unfortunately, that seems to be similar for everyone, for me.
Speaker 1:What happened is I went to slimming world and I followed slimming world. I never followed it to the t. Yeah, like I took it as a rough guide and it worked for me, like you know, it made me eat more vegetables, it made me eat more fruit, but like you know, and rather than say having, I'm just trying to think of like chocolate, for example, rather than having a Mars bar, I'd have like a Curly Whirly. I wouldn't have either of those things, but do you know what I mean? Like I'd still have some kind of treat, but it would just be smaller and less of Like rather than having like.
Speaker 1:Rather than buying a packet of Jammie Dodgers, I'd buy those little packs that had like five little ones in and I'd have one of those little packs rather than eating a whole big pack. Yeah so, and like, I often used to sit there and this is why I could never be a slimming world consultant and it'd be like you know, people would be like oh, I just don't really like fruit, and they'd be like but how could you incorporate it into your diet? And I'd be like if you don't like it, don't eat it yeah like don't force yourself because there are other.
Speaker 1:If you like other things, you can make it work. Yeah, I just think you have to enjoy what you're eating and it has to be easy, and I think if you are wanting to lose weight, you do need some rules and structures to begin with, whatever way you get it, and then hopefully you can find your feet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, find your feet and I do think like eating more fruit and veg, like filling up your plate with vegetables, which actually are great, like I really I don't like fruit very much, as I think we've said before, but I really like vegetables and if you can eat more vegetables, you're suddenly eating more food, you're more full, it's got lots of water in it, so it's sort of helping you hydrate as well, yeah, which I'm definitely guilty of not drinking enough water.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I think where people come unstuck and struggle with what thing to follow is like there seems it's that classic good versus bad. Yeah, it's like they fear these foods, like if I eat this, is it going to make me suddenly gain weight, or what's the magic food that's suddenly going to help me lose weight? There's no food that is going to cause you to just gain weight or cause you to just lose weight it's the habits, the behaviors, um, the consistency behind these things that are going to have an impact on that.
Speaker 2:And also, let's just forget about food and how you eat for weight loss for a minute. Let's think about food. It does it bring joy to a lot? Yeah, food is very social. You go out for birthday dinners, christmases. It is a social thing and we can't get away from that. It is therefore also an emotional thing. Yeah, eating food if it brings you, doesn't have to be bad.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think any food is bad. That whole good and bad label is really dated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really not helpful because it then leads to, like you said, restriction, and so often restriction leads to some sort of binge. Always, because For me and it's not not, you're not to blame a lot of these things are physiological responses to your energy intake. If it is really low for a period of time, your body's gonna freak out and want to replace that energy, and that's why you then suddenly feel so hungry after a fad diet, because your body's like quick, we're gonna die or we need to replace this lost energy in case we ran out of food, and I know in the modern world that doesn't.
Speaker 2:We don't need that system anymore because we have. Well, most people have access to lots of food, but we can't. We have to remember that some of these responses are not because we're failing. It's not because we're failing. It's not because we're bad people in not in control or don't want things enough, it's just our body. Yeah, get panicking. So I think the moral what's the word? The morals around food, it's not a matter of good, bad or anything, anything like that. And I think people get kind of caught in that trap of I'm a bad person if I eat like this or I'm a better person if I eat like this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think I think there is a real. I mean, I know we're going to touch on this probably later, but I definitely think social media makes this whole like oh, you have to eat clean. Makes this whole like, oh, you have to eat clean, you know, um, whole foods, blah, blah, blah. And you know you're seeing these usually skinny white women, privileged, privileged, like making these, you know quinoa bowls and things like do you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean kidney bean desserts. Yeah, piss off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't want your kidney bean high protein chocolate dessert no, I just want some actual chocolate I'm gonna have some ice cream yeah, I'm just gonna have an actual like yeah, just something, I won yeah because that's okay.
Speaker 2:That is okay and that comes with time and practice and doing the work.
Speaker 1:It doesn't come through and nutrition should include some sugar, yeah, some treats, some fat, some protein, some carbs, like it should have all of these things in it. It's like, like you say, you know the seven-year-old what's a healthy diet? Yeah, not too many sweets, but you can have some.
Speaker 2:You know, they've got it, they've got it nailed yeah, that kind of shame they can't be in charge of things really I mean, the world would probably be a better place.
Speaker 1:So should we talk about some common food nutrition myths, yes, that have been debunked, yes, so I mean the first one, and this is a I hear so many people say about this carbs make you fat. So if you want to lose weight, just cut out carbs right.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing carbs cause water retention because you need blah blah science behind it. Yeah, so when you cut your carbs out, people often see, for that first couple of weeks, a big drop in weight on the scales. Yeah, but a lot of that will be water weight because your body's not holding as much water because it hasn't got as much carbohydrates. Yeah, and that's literally it. Carbs are life. You need carbs to literally think. Your brain cannot function without carbohydrates carbs to literally think.
Speaker 1:Your brain cannot function without carbohydrates. Do you know, when I got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, I thought the diabetes nurse was going to say to me no more carbs yeah because, you know, carbs also have sugar in them.
Speaker 1:Like, and I I remember talking to him and I was like, so do what? What do I do? Like, am I allowed? You know, I'm not allowed to eat carbs anymore. And he was like, well, of course you can eat carbs, yeah, and I, I have carbs every day and I did the whole time that I was losing weight and I ate carbs and I still reversed my diabetes. Yeah, so I mean, obviously I'm not a doctor, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a medical professional, but he is. And he told me I was allowed to eat carbs. Still, I did, and I still reversed it. Obviously, I wasn't just eating carbs, like I'm not, I am, you know, I probably eat less carbs than I did, but I still have them every day. I mean potatoes I I don't eat so many now, but I used to eat a lot of potatoes when I first started losing weight.
Speaker 2:They're quite filling. They're actually one of the most filling foods and they're delicious.
Speaker 1:You can have them in so many ways and they're actually really good for you? Yeah, because you have different types of carbs complex carbs, simple carbs yeah, I mean, I like a simple carb, I like a white bread, I like white rice, rice, white pasta, yeah, and and.
Speaker 2:The difference is how quick they release energy into the body. Um, but yeah, carbs are not the enemy no they have never been the enemy and they never will be the enemy and I guess it's about having them in moderation yeah, it's about, like, like you said, what kind of carbs are you having? You think carbs, you think chips, but then you think, well, how are chips cooked normally in lots of oil and stuff like?
Speaker 2:that so is it the carb itself or is it the way a lot of carbohydrates are consumed? Yeah, which maybe could cause potato dauphinoise potato, dolphins, yeah I mean that is and a lot of butter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and cream. That's not the potato, is it? No, it's delicious, okay. So common myth number two you need to have um, like detox teas and juices, to be healthy look, I don't know if anyone actually knows this, but we've got this thing called our liver.
Speaker 2:Yes, I did not know this most people should have a liver, and if they don't, they will probably be dead, just for experience. Okay, now, this thing called a liver detoxes the body all by itself, so I don't need a detox tea or lemon water if you don't like it. Oh my god, so often, what these detox drinks, supplements, food items do is they cause you to shit yourself. Okay, and people often associate diarrhea with cleansing the body. So you know, I don't personally suggest self-inflicted diarrhea.
Speaker 1:No, I don't really want to shitinflicted diarrhea no, I don't really want to shit myself, to be honest, not right now so you know, I also think it's mind over matter a lot of these things.
Speaker 2:If you drink or take something believing it's going to cause a certain effect, yeah, you will then believe it makes you feel skinnier or lighter or clearer of mind, when actually it's just psycho the only person that's winning, not psycho psychosomatic I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anybody knows um. The only people that is winning in this situation is the people that you're buying them from that 5.7 billion pounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, diet industry.
Speaker 1:What was that thing called that people were doing years ago? Juice plus was that like a detox?
Speaker 2:it was. Yeah, it was probably like clear hun, just getting in touch with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you know people were, is it MLM, multi-layer marketing, so people would buy into it? And then you'd have people sliding into your DMs, being like hey, hun want to lose five pounds, want to lose a stone. You buy your juice plus and all these tablets and this and this and this, and then you need these and you need this. Yeah, you don't need it.
Speaker 2:You don't, you really don't need it. What's the next myth? We've got Amber.
Speaker 1:The next myth is all ultra processed food is bad and it should be avoided at all cost look, most food is processed in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's really hard to define processed food yeah there isn't a clear-cut category of. This is and this isn't. Yeah, I think people are fear-mong. You've got those videos on social media of people going around supermarkets holding boxes of cereal. Oh my God. A good example of this is Eddie Abu. No hate to the guy, he's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:is this shit? Yeah, exactly, it's some Weetabix.
Speaker 2:Oatabix yeah, calm down. He even held up baby formula once. No, he didn't. Yeah, he did. What a dickhead.
Speaker 1:And there he is eating 700 eggs. That ain't good for you, His farts must stink, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, no hate to Eddie himself. We all know it's for reactions and clicks.
Speaker 1:I mean he's making a lot of money from it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and I think this is another issue, isn't it Is just the ethics around these people and what they do on social media for views, for clicks, for engagement. But what was it? Ultra processed food, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I've got a view on ultra processed food as somebody who doesn't eat meat, so I guess you would say the majority. If you buy a chicken breast, it is processed but it isn't classed as like, an ultra processed food because it hasn't had stuff. You know, it's not lots of ingredients, it's just a chicken breast. But if you are vegetarian and vegan and you buy fake meat, it is all ultra processed food. And I do feel like a lot of people probably, if you are on a non-meat eating diet, eat a lot more processed food.
Speaker 1:That nest that maybe has a like, higher fat, higher like and isn't always as good as like, maybe sometimes thinking, actually, I'm gonna make like bean salad I wasn't gonna say a bean salad, I was gonna say like a lasagna and like using lentils, or even half lentils and half like soya mints, yeah, like. But you know, I definitely we got into the stage where we'd be like oh well, we'll have like these vegan chicken Kievs and we'll have these vegan sausages and we'll have this vegan burger and all of a sudden you are having a lot of ultra processed food, which is a quite expensive, yeah and b. There are a lot of alternatives that are cheaper and they are better for you and taste fine, like I quite like. A lentil has its, has its space. I don't, don't you? I feel like they're.
Speaker 2:They taste furry like. The texture is furry okay I've never had a good, well-cooked lentil yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're not always nice and, like you know, sometimes I've made like I've got a recipe for a red lentil doll.
Speaker 1:I've made it once delicious, I've made it again a repulsive and I can't put it in my mouth yeah, but I think that's the um maybe, maybe, but um, at the minute in my fridge I've got three jars of these, like I've got chickpeas, butter beans and white beans I think they're called like the good bean co and I'm really excited to use them in something so you do like beans, so bean salad wasn't that bad of a suggestion.
Speaker 1:It wasn't that bad of a suggestion, but, like you know, like I'm talking about, like you know, we don't. It's like you don't have to just think, oh, plant-based, so you have to eat beans or have a bean salad. Like you know, it's just not. You know, having a lasagna, a normal meal, and like mixing it up a bit and like thinking I don't want to just have this soy and mince, I'll also. It doesn't even have to be like a lentil or a bean, it could be like mushrooms, peppers, like yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think cooking from scratch when and where you can is probably good, but we have to acknowledge that takes oftentimes money. Yeah, it's sometimes it's cheaper to buy something that's done for you. Yeah, it takes time. Yeah, it takes knowledge of how to cook. So these are things that not everyone has access to 100. So that's the thing. Like there's a place for processed foods. Yeah, if we didn't have processed foods or processed food, we wouldn't have things at store for a long time. Therefore, everything would be super, super expensive. There'd be a lot more waste. Maybe. Like there's a place for these things. And just because you can't pronounce an ingredient on the back of a packet does not mean it's automatically bad for you. That is fear-mongering at its best, yeah. So use your common sense again. Trust what you know and what you learn. At seven years old, should you be eating 20 chocolate bars a day? I'd like to. We maybe, but I shouldn't you. It probably wouldn't be conducive to your health and fitness goals per se?
Speaker 1:no, and you know, I think with ultra processed food it is quite a um what's the right word like? To be able to eat fresh food and to cook is quite a privileged thing, especially in these days, and if you haven't got very much money and it's a choice of like eating or not eating, you've got to eat. Yeah, you've got to. Like eating or not eating, you've got to eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you've got to eat. At the end of the day, you've got to eat. Yeah, that is the message. No matter you know Processed or not, yeah, or how much you weigh or how much activity you've done in the day, you still have to eat to survive, yeah, and to thrive as well, you deserve to eat. You deserve to eat, yeah. That is an underlying message, I think, for today as well. Yeah, you always deserve to eat, always. What's next?
Speaker 1:Eating after 8pm causes you to gain weight Wrong.
Speaker 2:It doesn't, it may contribute to other things poor sleep, maybe if you're eating and going straight to bed and not moving, your digestion might not be as good. Maybe potentially you could get into insulin levels and spikes. But let's not even tread that, no that path but your body doesn't know what time it is. It's not going to treat that calorie intake differently from 759 to 8pm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that isn't the cause of weight gain no and also I think people's like body clocks are different on when they want to eat. Yeah, so I know, and I always think this is really weird, because I've always had like a tricky time with like eating and stuff and the one thing I've never had an issue with is snacking in the evening. No, no, I, I don't know. I am always hungrier in the morning. If I had my way, I'd have my breakfast at seven, I'd have my lunch at 12, I'd have my dinner at four, and that's it, I'm done. I'm just like routine. It's not even routine.
Speaker 1:I'm just not that hungry after like four or five o'clock no like it doesn't cross my mind to be like oh, what can I? I'm sitting in front of the tv eating food like snacking. That's just. That's never been my issue. Mine is like I'm between clients, what can I scoff in my face now?
Speaker 2:yeah, I just I'm a daytime eater yeah, and I think some people like meals, some people graze and some people, like you know they're.
Speaker 1:They're not hungry during the day, and then they're hungry at night yeah, I think there's.
Speaker 2:there is like kind of individual, there's the element of individual body clocks and appetites and stuff, but also I think often people deny themselves of like well, it brings us on to intermittent fasting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2:Intermittent Is that right?
Speaker 1:Intermittent fasting Well, I mean actually, that is, you have jumped ahead. Okay, but we will be talking about that.
Speaker 2:We'll put a pin in that, but yeah, everyone's different.
Speaker 1:So you can't get enough protein from a plant-based diet.
Speaker 2:I think it can be harder. It is harder and I think the amount of protein we're told to eat is quite extreme at times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I was. I've been told to eat like 180 grams.
Speaker 2:I can't eat 180 grams of protein a day. I think I said this before. A lot of these recommendations are based on the optimal amount for optimal muscle growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and while a higher protein diet can be quite good, you know, if he's trying to maintain muscle mass, um, get stronger, feel fuller like protein isn't bad, but I think the amount of protein people are expected to eat can be unrealistic. And then they're set up for failure and then they don't want to try at all and now I just think the protein business is booming because of this big protein.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, you go in Aldi, you go in Lidl, you go anywhere. Protein yogurts, protein bagels, protein oats, protein cheese, protein everything. Milk, yeah, protein milk.
Speaker 2:Funny fun fact cow's milk is actually just naturally high in protein, but they just whack high protein on it and it's probably got maybe like an extra gram per well.
Speaker 1:I think I saw something about this cheese. I think it was like Cathedral City cheese and it was like the normal one and one that says protein. The protein one was like quite a lot more expensive and it had like two grams more protein in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's a certain like ratio to grams, to calories, to protein. Yes, there is.
Speaker 1:I don't know who it was, but I saw some woman on Instagram and she was going around to her favourite protein products in like Lidl or Aldi and working out whether they were worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of them aren't.
Speaker 1:A lot of them aren't.
Speaker 2:A lot of them. You're better off, you know, having your meals with just a bit of protein, a bit of veg, a bit of carbs, a bit of fat. You know crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I don't really track anything anymore, but when I was, I was probably having between 75 and 100 grams of protein a day and I was fine.
Speaker 2:yeah, I live, to tell the tale, I think like I said this before, try and get it in with most of your meals. A decent amount like 20 grams, a portion of protein of every meal. You should be all right, unless you specifically want to get wham, yeah, and you're concerned about your protein intake, then try and get a bit more. There's no harm in eating. You can't really eat too much protein, but you can probably end up eating not enough, yeah, but no one's ever. I don't think there's any cases of people dying of protein deficiency.
Speaker 2:No, I've not heard of that, no, so chill out with the protein guys.
Speaker 1:So the next one and the last common nutrition myth Fruit is bad for you because of all the natural sugars.
Speaker 2:I agree. I mean I'm not into it. No, I'm joking, Don't be silly. I'm going to say this Hold your hand while I say, this Fruit is not bad for you. I've heard people go bananas are the Snickers of the fruit world. What I feel? Fuck off, Get a personality.
Speaker 1:Eat a banana. Yeah, actually, banana is one of the few fruits that I don't mind which is weird because they are super inconsistent I think they're really consistent because you just look at the outside and you sort of know what they'll be like. You've got green bananas, like too ripe a normal, a normal banana, and then you've got too ripe yeah, okay I feel like you can tell all right, obviously, if it's got a black bit. I'm not gonna eat that, no, but yeah, fruit isn't.
Speaker 2:The sugars in fruit aren't bad for you. No, they're different to the artificial sugars maybe put in chocolate bars and stuff. But even they on their own aren't bad for you, in moderation fruit. Fruit has loads of vitamins. It's got skins like kiwi skins, apple skins, full of fibre. Yeah, you can eat a lot of it and feel full for not many calories. If you're concerned about that.
Speaker 1:Eating fruit is going to help you go to the toilet. It helps your poo-poos. Yeah, One of the fruits and I guess this is is a fruit I really like medjool dates oh, I love a medjool I love them. Oh, what is it the saying? They're nature's caramel, I love them. That's not true.
Speaker 2:No, but they are delicious. Yeah, and also just pay a bit more if you can. Yeah, about the seeds in the pit, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I I brought some cheap ones from asda that were in a bag, I guess. They were like, um, they'd last longer, uh. And the first bag I got they were all really good. And then I got another bag and they were a bit, some of them were hard. But whereas if you just buy them in like the special, the little container, the like finest ones, oh my god, they're so good, I just love them.
Speaker 2:They're more money but they're so delicious and if you're into kiwis, I do recommend the golden kiwis. I've never had a golden kiwi. They're not as furry as a standard kiwi. So if you're don't like the skin of a normal kiwi yeah, it's more like an apple skin oh okay, and they're a lot juicier and sweeter than a. Maybe I'll try one.
Speaker 1:I do recommend, I'll give it a go for you, thank you.
Speaker 2:Okay, there's some common myths. If you have any more myths that have made you laugh, tell us because we'll, like I said, we'll revisit this topic. Yeah, we will.
Speaker 1:I think nutrition is such a big topic at the minute, like we said, because everybody is, you know, concerned about what they are and aren't putting in their body. But the rise of the social media, nutritionist, is a massive thing. Yeah, and you've got two camps. I think they're also known as grifters grifters yeah, like my favorite word, you're a grifter I don't think all of them are grifters no, not all of them.
Speaker 1:A large the damn dangerous ones are yes, yeah, and well, I mean I say there's two camps. I actually think there's more. There's like the health and wellness. I'm a whole foods yoga up at 4 am, meal prep and my oats kind of nutritionist. Yeah. Then there's these people that hate ultra processed food. Oh, there's some guy that like bangs on about using like plastic utensils because of like the um, microplastics, microplastics, and then you see videos of him like actually using them and then you get people that are a bit more real yeah, which are probably the ones you should be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listening to if you're confused yeah, the one that I love is joshua hills yep, josh hills nutrition on instagram.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna look, I believe. If you're going to follow anyone, follow him yeah as as joshua hills nutrition, yeah he is someone I would send my clients to to follow his social media.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love his approach. He's also doing a lot at the moment with Parliament to do with eating disorders. He is, which is really important. Yeah, Because I think we should probably touch on this as well. Touched on this as well, I think a lot of this misinformation around nutrition, food, diets, the body causes a lot of damaging, a lot of damage to young people, anyone really. Yeah, leading to disordered eating and or eating disorders, yeah. So yeah, I'm struggling with that head over to beatcouk, is it?
Speaker 1:I think so well, I think it's beat. I don't know, we'll put it in the show notes, but yeah, um, but yeah he is. I just think he's really good and I like that he calls out some of the grifters yeah, um, so that is the one with the plastic spoon. He calls him out quite a lot and like rightly so. And then there's another one who he is quite annoying but he does make some good points. I think he's called the fitness chef and I actually he hasn't popped out in my thing for a while but he sort of does some okay things, but it's annoying that the ones that I like are men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like does some okay things, but it's annoying that the ones that I like are men. Yeah, like there is um, and it's her username is forkdietculture on instagram. Oh, maybe I follow her. I think she's american, yeah um she's really good. Yeah, she like takes the piss out of these like ridiculous information, like social media people. Yeah, um, definitely give her a follow as well if you're interested in this kind of stuff yeah, I just think.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think grifters is such a good word for a lot of them because they, I don't think they really know what they're talking about, I don't think they care, I think they just see it as pound dollar signs, pound signs, yeah, yen signs, whatever like, and often they're not.
Speaker 2:They're not in it to help people. They're in it to boost their own egos.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's about them, not about who they're helping yeah, and you know, I think personally for me, if you are trying to change the way you eat from anything, you know you could be trying to weight change the way you eat because you want to increase your performance. You know, uh, physically, like for sport, you could be trying to lose weight, you could be trying to gain weight, like you could just be trying to get a bit healthier. But ultimately, I think a lot of it is emotional and it's all. A lot of it is, you know what's going on in your head that then you can move on and do the food work yeah, because let's not forget that health isn't dictated by exercise and food alone.
Speaker 2:No, health has so many factors to it, some in our control and some completely out of our control. Yeah, so to bring it down to two things exercise and food reductive, I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And can lead you to feel like you're failing because you just can't get a handle on something. Yeah, actually, it could just be something out of your control or something you might need medication for, or something, like you said, is emotional you need to work through. Yeah, so and that.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying with that that it's like you know, like trauma, and like it's just the things that you've learned and you've heard in the past that your parents have said, that your peers have said, that these grifters have said Magazines, magazines, I mean God, all the things that you know, we've been told.
Speaker 1:It does make it hard to have a good relationship with your body and with food in any sense, and it makes it hard to trust anyone yeah, yeah it does, when really the only person you should trust is yourself and you should seven year olds, and seven year olds, absolutely, because I feel. I just feel like we should be eating to be happy and like feel good about ourselves and the food you eat should make you feel good. Yeah, people thought they were coming on here. We were actually going to talk about nutrition, didn't they?
Speaker 2:psych. No, and I think it's also important to add to that. Sometimes a domino's pizza will make you feel good and it's a and it's a moment of joy, maybe with friends, with family, a celebration, and you're going to enjoy the shit out of that pizza. Yep, and sometimes that same meal, that same pizza, will leave you feeling gross. I had this. But there is a time and a place for all foods. Yes, but there is a time and a place for all foods, yes, that you enjoy in your life and you'll work out what makes you feel good or makes you feel bad. You're going to choosing your joy with certain foods and going out to eat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean the whole pizza thing.
Speaker 1:Pizza is the one food I have a real issue with and like I was like I've got to work through this and well, because I'm like for me I'm a bit like pizza's bad, okay, and I'm like pizza is not bad it's the way that you look at pizza and like I don't even particularly like it that much.
Speaker 1:And we had some friends around and we ordered some, um, papa John's when they had the like vegan Hawaiian pizza and um, like I just had like two or three slices and I really enjoyed it and I didn't feel like full, like you know, like overly full or anything. And then at Easter I was like, right, I'm gonna have a large Domino's pizza and I had it and like I ate it over two days and I felt repulsive, yeah, and I just thought I actually didn't it over two days and I felt repulsive, yeah, and I just thought I actually didn't need to eat all that pizza. I could have had a smaller one and I'd have been happy and fulfilled. So that was an interesting time for me and it actually has put me off pizza, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but did that get you down for long, or did you just think, oh, I didn't actually enjoy that that much and you moved on? Did that get you down for long, or did you just think, oh, I didn't actually enjoy that that much and you moved on.
Speaker 1:I mean, I, I felt physically quite unwell for like, yeah, 24 hours and then I just got on with my life, because it is just one pizza it is just one pizza and anything can make you feel physically unwell if you eat enough of it the lentil dal. Yeah, that time, yeah, I couldn't even put that in my mouth. At least I enjoyed the taste of the pizza exactly so what was we saying?
Speaker 2:I've got lost.
Speaker 1:Uh, we were saying what was we saying we?
Speaker 2:we were saying basically eat to make you feel good and healthy and happy and energized yeah, and if you eat something that doesn't make you feel that, move on and maybe don't do it again.
Speaker 1:Yeah absolutely so. Now we're on to the next segment, and this is where we're going to look at some of the most popular slash controversial diet nutritional approaches yeah, hit me the carnivore diet oh, it just screams and you take, really, doesn't it? Yeah, it does, I think. Do you think more men are into the carnivore diet?
Speaker 2:yeah, I do. It's well, men and pick me girls. Yeah, I'm being a bit catty now, aren't I? Oh fucking, come on, I don't care, I'm part of the 7am club now we need to be careful we might get sued.
Speaker 1:I said I like them, you led the pack, I led the pack.
Speaker 2:I was one of them for 30 seconds. I nearly took my top off and my bra. Well, I mean, some of them have got bigger pecs than me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they have um. So yeah, the carnival diet. So I mean I it's never gonna work for me because I don't eat meat, no, and I'm currently on a big meat.
Speaker 2:Ick. Yeah, I've been vegetarian for two weeks now. How?
Speaker 1:are you feeling?
Speaker 2:no different really. I'm definitely eating more fruit and vegetables, yeah, um, and I'm having to think about my meals a little bit more, but apart from that, like I've been vegan before, so it's not been a big adjustment for me. Yeah, I feel fine. Thanks, checking in you welcome the carnival diet is just too extreme. It's like any fad extreme diet You've pulled up some facts about. Well, I have. These are proven facts as well. This isn't just stuff we've assumed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I didn't really know much about it and actually the internet didn't have anything good really to say about it. I'm not surprised, but it said that it's linked to bowel cancer. Because there's a massive lack of fibre in that diet High cholesterol, which is linked to heart disease and strokes, probably because there's a high amount of fat in that diet and high fat and sodium.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they're eating steak butter salt for breakfast.
Speaker 1:And like look, Is it the carnival diet that people also call the caveman diet?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I'm pretty sure cave people were mainly eating a lot of berries and they weren't catching tigers. What were they? Tigers, woolly, mammoths Sure, they weren't hunting all the time.
Speaker 2:No, that was a nice little treat. Here and there it was a nice little treat. And why do you want to be like a caveman? No, we've moved on. Actually oh, why do you want to be like a caveman?
Speaker 1:no, we've moved on actually that's not a compliment.
Speaker 2:That's not a good thing to strive for, no, but each to their own. Carnival diet is just silly. Yeah, it's, it's, it's meat and fat yeah the liver king. Is that the liver king?
Speaker 1:oh, I don't know who's he.
Speaker 2:I think it's a netflix documentary, netflix Documentary on Netflix he's basically made his. I don't know, is he a grifter? He's a grifter Eating like testicles, oh, or, like you know, raw meat and stuff like that Gross. I'm not impressed by you eating raw meat.
Speaker 1:No me either.
Speaker 2:And that muscle you've got on.
Speaker 1:Your body was built by steroids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no hate to anyone who takes steroids, but don't tell me it's built through eating raw meat. Be honest with me. Yeah, come on, mr liver king are steroids legal um, who's asking? I don't know. I don't think that the ones sourced from the gym bros are necessarily legal okay from just wondering, just wondering you can get like hrt, forming like extra testosterone from the gp if you're low in it.
Speaker 2:Oh okay okay, so moving on to our next popular nutrition way of eating uh plant-based I don't think there's anything wrong with it, no at all, I think. Let's clarify plant-based based and vegan are different well, I mean.
Speaker 1:So, if you're eating vegans, eat plant-based, yeah, but then they will. You know, it's about the whole animal industry, so, like leather, toiletries, all of those things, whereas, um, somebody who just eats plant-based is somebody that you know, they just, they just don't eat any animal products, they eat plant-based um.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I did some more google research and it was actually very positive. Um, the only thing that it really had to say was that, you know, you have to be careful um that you uh, because it can lack in iron and b12, which do come from animal products. So maybe take a supplement and, from my own personal perspective, I think you do have to slightly watch out for just eating a lot of fake meats.
Speaker 2:Or Oreos.
Speaker 1:Or Oreos, to like. Broaden your horizons, because they're you know, you have got a world of things out there.
Speaker 2:And it's also important to know when it comes to getting protein from plant-based. There's no like maybe there's one or two, but there's no one plant-based thing that has a complete protein. So it's important to make sure you've got variety and you're mixing and matching your protein sources to make sure you're getting all the nine amino acids yeah, to make a complete protein. I hope that's right. I'm pretty sure that is what it is I mean, I just sort of so variety is the spice of life.
Speaker 2:It's the spice of life and it is super important when it comes to nutrition, and that's one thing that's true and my favorite kind of vegan protein to have with meals is actually tofu.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like. So I get gusto boxes because I struggle to gusto. If you'd like to sponsor us, we'd take some boxes. We love the boxes, um, but I you know, for me I'm busy. I hate cooking, I hate thinking about what to eat. Five days a week and my meals are sorted and it's shown me loads of different ways to have tofu like grating it tearing it.
Speaker 2:You told me tearing it like.
Speaker 1:So it's like chunks, like yeah, a tofu can be really good when you actually know how to cook it yeah, so we like the plant-based diet?
Speaker 2:yep, it's not.
Speaker 1:You know it's a magical diet, but no, there's anything, and I think you can't think, oh, I'm gonna go vegan or go plant-based to lose weight, because that ain't the case no like no, no, and you can be an unhealthy person, like you know. You can be plant-based and eat loads of fat, you know, loads of sugar. It doesn't. You know it can be it doesn't in air brackets unhealthy, yeah, um. So the next one is keto. So I had to say to you what is the difference between keto and carnivore?
Speaker 2:and not much no really, when you look at what the diets are made up of, it's a lot of fat low carb protein in no carb is the ideal, isn't it? It's like under 10 grams of carbs a day.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, on Google it says about 20 grams of carbs a day, which is nothing. I mean you get that in a carrot.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, so actually, the keto diet will cut out a lot of fruits. Yeah, because fruits are naturally high in sugar and carbohydrates. Tomatoes are quite carby. Don't be scared to eat tomatoes, though, but I'm just saying so. That causes other things, like issues of fibre intake, which is really important, and is it sustainable? Probably not For most people probably not sustainable. And you said it gave you bad breath when you did it.
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't do the keto diet so I did, but it works in the same manner, I guess, because it puts you into ketosis. So I'd done lighter life, which is where you have four milkshakes a day, 500 calories, a very low calorie diet, and when I went into ketosis so you'd have to wee on a little stick. That's a lot of effort and it would show you, depending on the colour, if you were in ketosis, your ketones, and if you're in ketosis, your breath stinks. I used to have a mouth spray.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because your ketones are coming out for your breath.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what a ketone is.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't really know, I'm not going to pretend to know. I don't want that in my life.
Speaker 2:If it works again, if these things work for you and you swear by them and you're happy eating this way, yeah, who is anyone to tell you it's wrong?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you're not harming anyone else and you enjoy the way you're eating and it makes you feel good, fantastic good for you. If it's sustainable and you're, that's fine.
Speaker 1:I don't want to show I think we are here as a regular person who lots of people feel like they should be eating this way, when actually it actually could end up doing them more harm, because it's not sustainable and will make them feel bad about themselves. If you love a carnival diet or a keto diet, like you say, brilliant, good for you, but as a normal person who might struggle with this, you don't have to do it.
Speaker 2:No, you don't actually really have to do anything in this life.
Speaker 1:No, you don't.
Speaker 2:It is. You have well free will and a topic for another time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, are we?
Speaker 2:truly autonomous beings.
Speaker 1:But the next one, yes so I feel like this is quite controversial. It's all for the last 10 years. I feel like this has been kind of like, like, heralded by many, as like how they achieved like, so you know, like thinness, like it makes, like, reverses diseases, does this, does that? Intermittent fasting? It's not for me. I cannot wake up and fast until 12 o'clock.
Speaker 2:I would die I think, sure, maybe there's some studies, but let's not forget, right, the studies that you read about that often these people refer to. They are scientific studies in a controlled lab. All the variables are controlled. You know there's strict measuring things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? You know there's strict measuring things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right.
Speaker 2:So these findings aren't based on everyday real life people following these protocols no I think that's really important to remember of any sort of scientific research is think about how the research is conducted, think about who's conducted the research. Have a bit more critical thinking. A lot of snippets from research are then taken and made into sensational headlines that people they cling on to and use.
Speaker 2:Um, the intermittent fasting thing when I first came across it and I have done it before was sold to me as a way to easily or easier reduce your calorie intake, because you're literally cutting off a big chunk of time where you're not eating any food. Yeah, so you eat between hours of 12 pm and 8 pm, so you have an eight hour eating window. Yeah, it wasn't sold to me as benefits to brain, uh, like brain function.
Speaker 2:Oh see, that's what I've seen a lot of it, as I think maybe now, as we've moved away from calorie counting and the need just to lose weight and well and and the diet industry has formed, transformed into the wellness industry.
Speaker 1:It's now sold to you as better health, better function reduce your chances of getting alzheimer's yeah, and I just think, and I don't I yeah, I don't know if that is true or not because I have not looked at the research.
Speaker 2:It's not some magical thing no none of these things we're talking about today are the magic solution for all your health woes no if something.
Speaker 2:If someone is telling you one simple solution to all of your problems, they're lying to you, and I think if you take that rule and apply it to anything you're seeing on social media, it would cut out a lot of the noise for you. Yeah, because that's not how life works. Unfortunately, there isn't just one easy fix, because if there was, we'd all be doing it. We wouldn't be sitting here now.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't be a personal trainer well we wouldn't be sitting here discussing several different ways of eating. For a start, would we because? There would just be one. Um. So yeah, I mean, to me, intermittent fasting is that would be my worst thing, because I wake up in the morning every day and I'm hungry. 7 am you want to have breakfast? 7 am club the 7 am breakfast club.
Speaker 2:I would like to get a member of them on.
Speaker 1:I To talk about it.
Speaker 2:I would love that, but they're not going to fit in this closet.
Speaker 1:I don't think they want to be in the closet, they're out. But you know, I actually genuinely think a member of the 7am Club would be really interesting, because I actually think the basis of what they're doing is it looks really good.
Speaker 2:Like you said, men need groups and space and men do need groups and space and stuff. So anyway, this isn't about the 7am we are their biggest fans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we, when we get some guests on, I am gonna approach them and be like come on our podcast yeah be a hun. Be a hun just for the day. So where are we up to? Well, we're kind of coming to the end now, and I think that you know some of the things around nutrition. We always think about food, but there are some other things that I guess they're linked to nutrition for me, and they are things like hydration, and I think it's really important that we should drink more water.
Speaker 2:Hydration hydration hydration, hydration hydration is key. Yes, as she drinks a zero sugar dr pepper and I'm on a san pellegrino sparkling natural mineral water though in it but I do try.
Speaker 1:I am trying harder to drink more water because I do think it is important yeah, and I.
Speaker 2:It is important and I think we get obsessive water and stuff. But sometimes, if water isn't for you, like plain water oh, I mean, I drink squash.
Speaker 1:I don't drink plain water. A little bit squash, that's fine, that is water. What I am trying to say is like a girl cannot live on zero sugar fizzy drinks, dr.
Speaker 2:pepper. Yeah, yeah, dr Pepper.
Speaker 1:Pepsi Max, reach out. I mean, pepsi Max is my one true love. Yeah, I could just drink Pepsi Max.
Speaker 2:An ice cold Pepsi Max that is actually Cold one with the boys, yep.
Speaker 1:That is my favourite kind of drink. What was it?
Speaker 2:Did you have a diet coke and a vape?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Look, girls got to do what girls got to do Girls got to do what girls got to do. Health is wealth, then.
Speaker 2:We're getting cancelled, okay.
Speaker 1:But yeah, hydration, hydration is really important Supplements.
Speaker 2:I think there's some really useful ones.
Speaker 1:The stuff that you can't get from food easily are probably useful, but only if you're like low in them, yeah, so I mean I don't all the time, but like if I'm feeling a bit tired, I do take an iron and a b12 supplement yeah, which would make sense because you're vegan yeah, and actually do you know what it does?
Speaker 1:usually pick me up a bit, yeah vitamin d is a one I'd say everyone should have, yes, regardless, especially if you live here in in the uk, not at the minute not me at the minute, because I am I am full of vitamin d all right, uh, on that, note what I not. What I mean is I've been out in the sun a lot.
Speaker 2:Um, vitamin D is one that I think everyone should take and then, apart from that, it's kind of whatever you want, you know if you take. Like I said, if you take something and you believe it makes a difference, it will make a difference. Yeah, most of it will come out in your wee, yeah, and they can be quite expensive. If you're worried about your levels of certain things, go and get a blood test from the doctors, yeah, and find out what you really need. But a lot of stuff you can get from having a good, balanced dairy diet.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I think really, that's probably all we've got to say for today, do you?
Speaker 2:know we didn't even talk about calorie counting, which I think is huge.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, should we do a whole episode on that, because, yeah, there's lots of caveats of calorie counting yeah, there are, and that is a whole, and I think that's probably something we need a little bit of research on. Yeah, this is really just what we think about eating yeah and I.
Speaker 2:But do you know what I think, if anyone's going to take our advice, it's been pretty sound advice. Yeah, do what you want, trust children.
Speaker 1:Trust a seven-year-old Eat what you want, you don't have to do the carnivore diet.
Speaker 2:And if it makes you feel better, do it.
Speaker 1:And maybe don't exclusively drink Pepsi Cherry Max.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it really. Yeah, who needs a?
Speaker 1:nutritionist? No one. So if you were going to give somebody one piece of advice around nutrition, what would it be?
Speaker 2:aim for a balanced, varied diet of the food you enjoy. Keep it simple, keep it consistent, okay you, mine would be.
Speaker 1:You're allowed to eat. Yeah, like eat. You like eat breakfast. So many people are like, oh no, I'm not gonna have breakfast, but they're hungry. Start your day with a meal. Yeah, I actually really like porridge yeah, you can jazz it up.
Speaker 2:Lots of things you do, porridge yeah but ultimately just have something is you deserve to eat. So eat, yeah, just eat. And there we go. Yeah, so next week, what are we doing next week? Um, we've got wellness.
Speaker 1:I think that would be an interesting one yeah, so I mean we did give people the choice this week of nutrition, or what is wellness? And I think what is wellness coming from us? We're not going to be like wellness is a yoga retreat.
Speaker 2:Wellness is the pan pipes playing on a frosty morning I think the wellness industry is a diet industry in disguise. A hundred percent, they're the same thing. It A hundred percent, they're the same thing, it is the same thing. And you know what.
Speaker 1:It is the same thing.
Speaker 2:More on that next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you've got any questions around anything really. We are vague with who we are yeah, and we'll give anything a go. If you ask us a question, we'll try and answer it, because we'll give anything a go if you. If you ask us a question, we'll try and answer it so we are all knowing um.
Speaker 2:But yeah have a good week. Follow us on instagram at the health hans pod email us health.
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