The Health Huns
The Messy Side of Health and Fitness!
Your favourite amateur athletes keeping it real, discussing the messy side of health and fitness
The Health Huns
EP.12 Q&A Listener Special
We explore the messy side of health and fitness, addressing listener questions with honesty, humor, and practical wisdom to help you feel less alone in your journey.
• Health and fitness as a lifelong journey rather than an "on or off" approach
• Women's health myths versus reality and the lack of research in this area
• Practical strategies for managing calf pain while running
• How to mentally handle weight gain without self-sabotage
• Finding the right balance between having quality fitness gear versus essentials
• Realistic expectations for progress when starting out at the gym
• Building fitness communities and finding workout buddies
• Managing motivation through discipline and habit-building
• The importance of lowering expectations to maintain consistency
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is betty being an absolute menace she's all right, she's just getting a good licking hello and welcome to the health hands, the pod where we discuss the messy side of health and fitness from gym fails to newfound communities we're here to help you feel like less of a failure and find your place in the messy world of health and fitness okay, okay, all aboard the Health Hons Express, hello, hello.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another episode of the Health Hons. What number is this? 12?, 12. 12 slash 13, if you're gonna include the mini episode, which?
Speaker 1:we're not no, so 12.
Speaker 2:So I'm so sure, that's a lot, that is a lot. Oh, thanks, betty, um betty can we? Also sweat. You come here, let me yeah I just did a 5k for everyone who wants to know. And how, what was your time? Uh, 30 minutes and 20 seconds, and how? Did it feel Horrible. It's so muggy again. I've had enough. It was raining when I started and then it was like sauna.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I went out this morning and did 4K and it was A really nice temperature.
Speaker 2:And I could breathe. It's nice to be able to breathe, isn't it? It is. It is nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, rate your week. Then How's your week Been you get back into running.
Speaker 1:I feel like my week's been like eight and a half nine, really. Yeah, that's very optimistic for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's been good. What'd you get up to? You relived your youth, didn't you?
Speaker 1:at Latitude. I relived my youth at Latitude and I was so tired the next day I literally barely left my bed, except from, like, all the jobs you did. Well, I mean, I went to Pets at Home and brought the girls a new bed and shampooed the carpet in here, but then I went back to bed again. Yeah, so I was. Yeah, I was really tired. Then, monday, I didn't want to go to spin, but I got up and I went to spin. I worked, worked Tuesday, worked Wednesday. I went for a. What did I do? Did I do anything yesterday? No, but I went for one.
Speaker 2:No, you did.
Speaker 1:You wore your new trainers in around the house oh yes, I wore my new trainers in around the house and done lots of, like you know, bobbing around, and then I wore them on my run, on my run today, and they were really comfortable I'm looking to purchase some new ones before our 10k race.
Speaker 2:Okay, in september. So I want some like actual race day shoes. Are you gonna get carbon plates? Oh no, because I'm not a wanker, no, I'm just going to. I'm interested in the Nova Blast A6.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're very popular aren't?
Speaker 2:they, yeah, all the Adidas Evo ones, whatever they're called, that you've got.
Speaker 1:That's what I've got. They're really really comfortable and, like lots of people told me that their Adidas shoes are really narrow, but they feel like I mean, my feet are. I guess they're not particularly wide, they're just average, yeah, but they feel really wide to me. But they're very comfortable. The first run I didn't like them, but, yeah, today was good, oh yeah. Then I had a really hardcore session with you. Like my God, I felt like that was the hardest workout you've made me do in ages.
Speaker 2:It was new Fueled by rage as well. We just were non-stop that session yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, usually we do. I mean, we did a lot of chatting still, but I felt like there was no standing around chat and it was like you were like come on quick rest and I was like, oh my god yeah, but it was all good.
Speaker 2:You feel good if you're you know, yeah ready to face the weekend exactly how was your week? Um, my week was very gay okay, so we had pride at the weekend, which was fun. Some friends came up from London, which was really nice, and then a bit up and down this week my son's been ill so I've had to like move some stuff around, haven't had as much me time as I wanted.
Speaker 2:But I found a new food obsession oh Couscous. But I've found a new food obsession, oh couscous. So like the couscous you get in like a packet that you just you don't have to like cook it from scratch. Yeah, you just add water, and it actually isn't that how you cook all couscous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so normally was it like flavored flavored okay, so I had a moroccan one, and I had aiced one so that, with three to four boiled eggs for protein Okay, hard boiled, because I don't like it soft boiled Bit of mayo, bit of sriracha sauce and some crispy onions Okay, mixed in a bowl, I tell you what it's going to be my new obsession for the next three to four weeks well, my new obsession delicious is taco mints.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, taco mints. So it's this isn't mints, mints, it's not base mints. Uh, and peppers, onions, mushrooms, sweet corn if we've got any, and some taco seasoning, and then I put some cathedral city vegan cheese on it, put it in the microwave because I prep it, and then I've got some Oatly Creme Fraiche and it is so good.
Speaker 2:Head over to our Instagram for recipe details. Maybe, we should Cook with the Health Huns, yeah, okay, if you want us to do a Cook with the Health Huns reel or series, like and comment somewhere. Go on our Instagram message us.
Speaker 1:We just need one person to tell us yes and we'll do it.
Speaker 2:And actually we've already told each other that, so we're gonna do it. Um, but yeah, good week probably about an eight out of ten. Okay, so you know, I was training my traps yes, it's paying off.
Speaker 1:It is paying off. So if you want to have a look, head over to my instagram yeah, rrt underscore coaching.
Speaker 2:Be quick, though. Be quick because I will start charging for these pictures.
Speaker 1:I was going to say, like you are linking my bio for my only fans. Yeah, yeah, there's going to be a whole series of thirst traps. Watch this space, watch. I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are very excited about this.
Speaker 2:Give the people what they want. Yeah, that's what I say. Yeah, I'm a people person. I'm a person of the people.
Speaker 1:And I mean I posted a picture on my Instagram today of after my run and the only comment I got was there's some sweaty socks. Yes, yes, they were, and they're available to buy.
Speaker 2:Sealed socks? Yes, yes, they were, and they're available to buy. Sealed, fucking packed, yeah, ready, just for the right price, right then? What episode? What is this episode about? This is a listener q and a you know, when we don't have any topics is when we do.
Speaker 1:It's a q and a uh, we've got loads of topics. We just, we just didn't want to do any research, we just wanted to come on off the cuff and I love a Q&A though. I love a Q&A.
Speaker 2:I love it and I hope we can enlighten you all and answer your questions. We've got some good Q's, we got some good A's yeah, all to come. So exactly, strap in, strap on. Are we ready? Yes, we are let's go first.
Speaker 1:Question amber do you both imagine health and fitness being part of your life forever and, if so, are you planning for it now?
Speaker 2:um, when I pre-read this question I thought interesting question, because I don't see it as something that's like I'm either on health and fitness or I'm off health and fitness. This sounds like such a wanky answer, but it's so deeply ingrained into my every day and that's probably a lot to do with my job, but it is what it is. I'm active, I do the gym, I try and make sure I'm eating a really good, balanced diet. I try and get good sleep, like that's something that I'm always actively doing, like habitually.
Speaker 2:I've built the habits, so I hope that that will just continue to be that as I grow older and will adapt as and when my life changes yeah, same.
Speaker 1:Like I think I can't imagine going back to how I was before, where health and fitness was not really a part of my life. Um, and I like feeling healthier, stronger, just better, and like it's like we were saying before. Like you know, I think health and fitness is just like it's not just about going to the gym eating protein yeah, like it's all it'sty being an absolute menace she's all right, she's just getting a good licking well, there's the um intro for the pod today.
Speaker 1:Um, no, come on. Um. Like you know, I've been so busy recently, but I've had some time this week to like tidy my house and get some things in order, sort of the garden a bit. So in turn, I then feel less stressed and I can eat better, which makes me feel better, which makes me want to go for a run, which then makes me feel more motivated and better. So it's all like it's just. It's just a whole lifestyle, isn't it? It's not just I go to the gym and I eat protein like you're trying to lose weight or something like that yeah, it's just everything.
Speaker 2:I think I'm the same as you Like. Health and fitness to me is like the whole my whole life is like there's so many different elements to what health is that I'm always not actively looking and really focusing on things. But over the years, the less pressure I put on myself when it comes to health and fitness, the less I self-sabotage and the easier things are to me, because I'm not constantly chasing perfection or crazy results or anything like that. So it's a lot easier just to make nice choices for myself, because it's not choices to be skinnier, it's not choices to whatever, it's just like I just want to feel good, like I enjoy feeling good. And very rarely now do I sabotage that because I'm not in the all or nothing mindset. Yeah, I'm just chilling, it's just me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wellness is my whole life and I think as well, this is my whole life. I mean, it is get this girl on a yoga retreat.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'd love that I as well. Like you know. I look at my mum, who is 76. And as far as I'm aware, she's never really done any kind of like fitness or exercise and her knees are really bad and I want to be in my 70s being able to go for a walk. Slut dropping, doing thirst traps, um, and being able to go for a walk. Yeah, you know things like that and you know lift my own shopping and things up and down the stairs yeah, yeah, that's kind of answered, that one, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shall we move on to question two. Let's just move on Women's health. I see so many things. Is any of it true?
Speaker 2:I, that's just such an open-ended question, isn't it? Women don't actually exist?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a myth. It is Women's health. I do think, if we're interpreting this question correctly, women's health is different to men's health in certain aspects.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We are built slightly differently Not as different as I think people like to believe, but there are certain things that affect people born female than there are people who are male.
Speaker 1:yes, hormones being probably the biggest yeah, factor of that and there's so little research into women's health surprise, surprise yeah, um, but I mean, I guess, if I'm thinking of some of the things I've seen recently, like there's a real big thing and maybe it's for men's health as well, but seen recently like there's a real big thing and maybe it's for men's health as well, but I feel like it's definitely aimed at women is like things to do with cortisol and it's like eat a low cortisol diet and you'll lose weight.
Speaker 1:Like I mean what?
Speaker 2:that's gonna raise my cortisol. If I've got to think about a low cortisol diet, yeah, I'm stressed like what am I gonna eat for lunch? Yeah yeah, I think there's definitely lots of clever marketing ploys that pit these differences against each other. You need this set of movement, you need this or you need to train this way on. By and large, the basics of health and fitness for a man for a woman are very similar.
Speaker 2:Like if you want to get stronger, you go lift heavier in the gym if you want to get you know if you want to work on your diet, you know, eat good protein sources, fruit and veg, carbs, balanced diet, like it's kind of similar yeah. I'm not a scientist. I'm sure there are some things at a deeper level that are beneficial to one more than the other, but I guess you need to.
Speaker 1:If you see something and you are interested in that, you need to do a bit of research on it. Yeah, and look at the sources of where it's coming from. Yeah, if it's some influencer who is doing like you know promoting supplements, their own courses and coaching programs, or using scare tactics and you know things like that Maybe they're not the best place to get your information from. Yeah, ooh.
Speaker 2:Okay, moving on.
Speaker 1:I get calf pain running. Any exercises to help?
Speaker 2:okay, so a what shoes you wearing? I think, that's that could I start from the bottom up, um, are you stretching? Are you stretching, are you working on your mobility? So ankle mobility knee and hip are you doing bulgarian split squats? Are you strength training?
Speaker 2:yeah um, are you hydrated enough? Yes, all these things, but a very simple, quick would one would be calf raises about 20, maybe two sets of 20, before you go on your run, which is just like going on the tiptoes and like trying to be as tall as you can. Do them straight leg and do them with a bent knee. Um, maybe foam rolling, maybe massage guns, maybe a sports massage, like these things could help. Um, and how are you running like, are you all on your toes the whole time? Are you kind of landing heel to toe middle of your foot? Yeah, there's no. Without seeing you run or seeing what you do or don't do, I can't tell you for sure. But there's what I'd recommend, amber.
Speaker 1:I mean, I sometimes get I wouldn't say it's calf pain, but it's like a tight feeling in my calves. So I'm going to demonstrate to re now the stretch that I do let me so.
Speaker 2:If you head over to the instagram, you can see this live, where I'm in my race day shoes yeah, she's got a new.
Speaker 1:She's wearing them in, so I try and like do this oh yeah, and like and like that stretch and that really stretches it out, there we go.
Speaker 2:Oh, we needed some content, we did, there we go. So, yeah, go literally. If you've got TikTok, if you've got Instagram, if you've got Google, type in pre-run calf stretches or warm-up and then see if there's anything. Sometimes it can be tight ankles, so ankle mobility. I found that when I my ankles have felt so tight, my calves were then really sore when I ran yeah but if you go into some deep squats, you know, move around.
Speaker 1:I did some squats outside here this morning before my run 6 30 aam squatting on the pavement.
Speaker 2:Often when you have pain like a muscle, it's not actually the muscle, it's one of the joints either end of it that tend to be something wrong with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, that's kind of it on that. Yeah, sorry if we didn't answer very well.
Speaker 1:I mean, like you say, it's hard to say without, but I do think shoes are a good shoes and hydration, yeah. How do you feel and what do you do if you gain weight?
Speaker 2:Oh, this is a big one, isn't it? You go first, Amber.
Speaker 1:Well, I, because it was my birthday and then I went to Latitude I am probably. Well, I'm five pounds heavier than I was a couple of weeks ago, and that's really big poo yeah, I I'm like well, that'll come off in a couple of weeks. So I, on monday, prepped my taco mints for lunches. I prepped some protein overnight oats for breakfast.
Speaker 2:We've got gusto this week and I'm just just not worrying about it yeah, I I nowhere near worry about it as much as I used to, when I was actively always trying to be smaller and lose weight. I think there's still, I think there's really always going to be an element that feels like a failure to me, and that's not because I believe it is, it's because we're just conditioned to feel that way about weight gain.
Speaker 2:Like anytime you gain weight, you fucked up, you failed, it's your fault, you've let yourself go, you're lazy, there's all these connotations you have with weight gain. I think quite often, yeah, um, but there's. That's my initial thought and then my kind of practiced self-love thought is like cool, like, like you said, maybe you've had a busy couple of weeks it's been birthdays, been celebrations. Maybe you're you've been injured, you haven't been able to do as much, or your life has just been busy and it's been birthdays, it's been celebrations. Maybe you've been injured, you haven't been able to do as much, or your life has just been busy and it's been different. And it is not the end of the world.
Speaker 1:But I get why people do feel like bad about it, because you're conditioned to feel bad about it and I guess if I'd gained a stone I'd probably feel much different. But I guess the headspace I'm in now is like you know, I wouldn't ever avoid standing on the scales. I'm just like, right, well, I need to see what I am. And yeah, I just need to prep and it'll come off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and also the other thing is say you've been like mad on it for like the last few months, like maybe you've been your calorie deficits, your steps and all the classic things to lose weight and maybe that's been actually quite a lot and you're leveling out. Maybe you've put weight on because actually what you're doing now is actually what fits into your routine, what fits into your lifestyle and makes you happy and you're not living in the extremes. Yeah, and actually maybe the weight gain is a reflection of just actually this is where my body's gonna sit. It matches my current lifestyle. And if you're happy with your lifestyle and the choices you're making and the activities you're doing and the food you're eating, if that is actually making you happy, then the weight gain isn't bad. Like that's just where you are, yeah, and that is neither good nor bad. It is. It just is it's neutral.
Speaker 1:It is neutral. It's just how you feel about things that makes it good or bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think questioning why one thing makes you feel a certain way and keep questioning that is a really good practice to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, next question Question five keep questioning. That is a really good practice to do. Yeah, next question, question five what do you think about having all the gear and what are your essentials?
Speaker 2:well, we actually did a whole episode on this, didn't we? We did, yeah, that running vest.
Speaker 1:Clearly you haven't listened to all of our episodes.
Speaker 2:But go and listen to that, but we'll do a quick synopsis. My thing is, you don't need all the gear. There is certain things that will make your life easier, but you can start with pretty much minimal stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and most of it is a gimmick yeah, and I've definitely learned that the most important thing to me is having a good pair of trainers. And I mean, I like wearing a running vest because I can put my phone and I can put my keys in it. It's not because of anything else, in fact, I don't actually really like wearing it, but I just sort of need to have my stuff somewhere, I hate my running vest do you I?
Speaker 1:feel so restricted in it yeah, see, I did feel a bit like that on mine, but I had some straps that I can make it bigger and it didn't feel so restrictive. I mean, really, if I could just leave everything at home, but at the bare minimum I've got a key and a lot of my shorts don't have pockets. So I do need something. And I don't like a running belt because I feel I've got quite a high waist and like it then feels weird there. So the running vest is better. But I mean, the most important thing is having some good trainers, and I think that's for the gym or for running. Yeah, like, if I go to the gym I wear converse because they're flat and we do like weight lifting, so it's a bit easier to connect with the ground?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I don't think I'm not Am I garmin. Oh yeah, Again, really nice little accessory if you're tracking your runs or you want to track your sleep, but you don't need it to see success or to enjoy what you're doing.
Speaker 1:It's good for me because when I'm running I can see my pace and it makes me run slower and more consistently. But I didn't have one for quite a long time. But also you can pick them up cheaply on.
Speaker 2:Vinted. What do you get yours for £100? £100. Mine was £50 off Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't do Facebook Marketplace. I'm too scared to talk to people.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't mind.
Speaker 1:I'll do it for you. Question six what do you think about gels to fuel shorter runs?
Speaker 2:If you want them and you feel like it makes you better or more energized or more consistent energy throughout the run, fine, do what you want. Do what you want, like actually don't care. Yeah, in the nicest way possible. If that's what you want and you feel good, have it. But I don't necessarily feel like you. Probably.
Speaker 1:You probably don't need it if you've eaten, like I guess the thing is, maybe if you haven't eaten and you don't realize you're going to go for a run and you haven't got time to eat, because if you eat too close to a run you feel sick. Maybe having a gel might be helpful yeah, fire suggestion.
Speaker 2:You know, carbohydrates are easy like cool, yeah, um, I'm not. Like, oh my god, you don't need gels unless you're running over 15k, like yeah, do what you want wear your vest, gel your gels. Yeah, put your sunglasses on and off. You go. 2k, 3k, 100k yeah, not my business, do what you want just make sure you put your rubbish in the bin, because I've seen some gel packets around recently and I'm thinking I can't sound a little bug?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think that's very important. We don't want runners getting a bad name. No, we don't. Um question number seven how do you cope when you're not motivated?
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know, you go first.
Speaker 1:Well, I've been quite unmotivated the past month. First of all, I went into a panic and thought I was dying because I was so tired, kept falling over, fading all the time. I did faint, um, and I, you know, I obviously there was something going on, um, but I just then I got to the point where I was like, well, it will come back. And it's been hot and I've been busy like in my personal life, going out doing things. I've had less days off and less time to do things for myself. So there probably was an element of burnout, not from exercise, just from like life. Yeah, and yeah, I think once I just sort of accepted that I'm like, well, it'll come back, and it's not like I haven't done anything, it was just running. I was really unmotivated with motivation.
Speaker 2:I don't ever feel it anymore like I don't. It's nice, it's a nice treat to like look forward going for a run, to want to get up and go to the gym or to want to get the work done. But I know like if I relied on that alone, I would probably run maybe once every six months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, so it is that really, again, I'm gonna run maybe once every six months? Yeah, that's true, so it is that really?
Speaker 2:again, I'm going to sound a bit like a wanker, but you kind of got it's like that discipline of motivation or like building the habit of just it's in your life. You get up, you do it. It doesn't make it as fun and easy when you're not motivated.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:But if you know it's something that will make you feel better, or that you set yourself a goal that you want to achieve, the fact is, very rarely you're going to be motivated to do it yeah, so you kind of like, in a nice way possible, grow up and just get on with it. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, call me andrew tate this is the second time you've compared yourself to him. I'm getting worried.
Speaker 2:No, but sometimes you just gotta suck it up and do the stuff you don't want to do, because you probably will feel better once you've done it yeah, and like I never, you know, come into a pt session with you.
Speaker 1:Like I always feel motivated to do that and randomly I thought you're gonna say I always dread it. I always dread it. No, I always feel motivated for that. I always, even though sometimes I don't like getting up and getting there because I have to get up at 5 52 in the morning to go to spin. I actually always look forward to going to spin, just sometimes it's hard to get out of bed because I'm like oh, I could have another half an hour running.
Speaker 1:I do feel less motivated about, but I feel like that's because it's still quite new to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I also think setting yourself reasonable targets. So with running, at the minute I need to up it more because I want to get a good time for my 10k race. That's my personal motivation and goal at the minute. When I don't feel motivated to run, I say just go out, put your trainers on, on, and if you run for a k, a kilometer and come home that's fine. For me it's always about trying to build the habit and overcoming that, because the more often you overcome the voice in your head saying don't do it, we can't be bothered, I'm too tired, the easier it is to do that every time. Yeah, not to burn yourself out like rest when you need rest. But I think people go oh, I've got to run 5k today, I really can't bother.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, just go run a kilometre yeah, last week I'd done two runs, and I think one I'd done two and a half k and another I'd done two. Yeah, they all come this morning.
Speaker 1:I'd done four because it wasn't about and it was like we've got 30 minutes and I done 4.2k, yeah, and it was actually a really great run. Who knew that Matthew Green would be such a great running partner? Well, he actually, yeah, like, I think, because he I there's no competition with him. We are not similar in any way. The man can run 100k, he can run 5k in like 20 minutes, yeah, like, but he just runs at my pace. He is just pretty helpful. Yeah, he wants you to succeed. Yeah, that's really sweet. It is sweet, isn't it? Like today was. He's just, he's really good to run with and just, if I need to stop.
Speaker 2:He's like, yeah, okay, he's actually for sale at the minute for hire, so if you like a nice running partner, get in touch can you imagine some people's partners would be like well, I'm not having a slow 5k, slow 4k on my Strava, he doesn't care he's. He is one of the good ones, he is one of the good ones.
Speaker 1:He'll never listen to this. No, so you'll never know the nice things I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Meg doesn't listen either. Our partners, our husbands, our wives makes sense, because you go on about it all the time.
Speaker 1:All right, but we're fun and interesting to them. We're not. No, they've.
Speaker 2:They listen to us too much yeah, okay, um, what was that question?
Speaker 1:motivation, yeah okay, we've got. We've got an off-topic one. Now love it. Um as in, not health and fitness. What are the biggest red flags in a person?
Speaker 2:that's a very, very broad topic. Okay, should we do like one I do one, you do one, I do one okay um, when they can never, ever ever take responsibility for anything in their life?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's kind of similar to what I was going to say. I just think somebody who is not self-aware, yeah, and they perceive themselves in one way and and you're like not quite, yeah you probably need to do some work hun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so lack of self-awareness, not taking responsibility, what else? They're quite big ones. That kind of covers a lot of things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I feel like they are the biggest red flags in people, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, someone who's not to be honest. Yeah, someone who's not nice to animals? Yes, because even if you're not like a big dog person or a big cat person, like still be nice to the animals. Yeah. Another thing is people. Okay, I understand people don't want kids. I completely understand why people don't want kids, but like people who like actually hate kids, I think that's a really weird flex. Yeah, like I'm not impressed that you hate a three-year-old.
Speaker 1:I think that's really quite odd. Yeah, like I don't want kids. No, but I like and I don't get me wrong, I don't like all of them me neither, but the ones that I know. Like you know, I'm obsessed with making Ziggy my friend.
Speaker 2:One day he'll acknowledge my existence, you and Shannon, both he's side side eye Shannon and she was like, well, he didn't cry. Yeah, exactly, all in good time yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like a big one. People who only shower like a couple of times a week. I think that's an odd one. Oh, so many.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think the main ones for me is like just not being self-aware. What so many? Yeah, I mean, I think the main ones for me is like just not being self-aware. What was the first one you said Not taking?
Speaker 2:responsibility for anything in their life.
Speaker 1:Not taking responsibility.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're pretty good ones. There we go, so I hope that helps in finding out if you're struggling to figure out if someone's good or not?
Speaker 1:Who is your favorite gay to 5K member? I don't have favourites. I mean, I'm going to put it out there. Mine is Ziggy.
Speaker 2:He's got a t-shirt now he does have a t-shirt. Yeah, he's a fully fledged member. A bit flaky on the old appearances though, isn't he? But when he's there it makes all the difference. He was there Sunday actually, oh I he was there Sunday actually.
Speaker 1:Oh, I missed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was drinking a baby chino. He was not happy when Ryan turned up. Oh, because he's not a fan of men. Okay, that's fair enough. I don't know where he gets that from. I can't imagine. No, but like he's a bit wary of a man, what about your?
Speaker 1:dad because he lives with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah but that's my dad like that's Dave, he's not a strong male presence.
Speaker 1:No, Love you.
Speaker 2:Dad. Sorry, jay, he's a soft man. Well, he's used to him, isn't he? So is Ryan, so is Ryan. Anyway, who knows? My favourite Gay2YFK member is Amber Sorry guys and Shannon. There we go.
Speaker 1:Now this question. I had to give this some real thought and I've actually got loads of things, but Go on then, what is a low-key conspiracy theory that you believe in?
Speaker 2:Go on. What did you think then? The moon?
Speaker 1:landing was faked, because if they went to the moon whenever it was 69? Yeah, something, aren't they? Why has nobody else ever been to the moon?
Speaker 2:well, this is a good point. So that's fake, fake. Okay, what is mine? God, I used to. I accidentally nearly like was such a conspiracy theorist during covid. Okay, because I just spent way too much time on tiktok and didn't go outside. I think that was like it nearly got me. I really nearly got me. Um, there was this thing that, like under large supermarket, says like um, um, like warehouses of, like army stuff and like fbi stuff and like mi5. Right, I believe that. So I'm the big aster.
Speaker 1:There's like labs and, okay, like emergency stuff in case the world goes wrong okay, so they could just go up into the supermarket and bring it all down. Also, is it just the stockroom?
Speaker 2:I definitely, definitely believe there's aliens and I definitely believe that government FBI Because it came out a couple of years ago Didn't some military people be like, yeah, we saw aliens and we were told to be quiet about it?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I definitely believe in aliens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe in aliens.
Speaker 2:Ones I don't believe in, you know. Then they think they're all family elizabeths, yes, or?
Speaker 1:reptiles yeah, that's mad. I'm just gonna find a really good um so I can tell our listeners a good alien tv show to watch. Okay, is it x-files traveling the Stars. Action Bronson and Friends watch Ancient Aliens. So Action Bronson okay, is a rapper right, who I love? Okay, and it's him and his friends getting really stoned watching Ancient Aliens and it's so good okay, there we go.
Speaker 2:Listener recommendation. Oh my god, amber's got her lunch ready a tiny mini banana literally a tiny banana and Space Raiders. Oh my god, amber's got her lunch ready A tiny mini banana Literally a tiny banana and Space Raiders.
Speaker 1:We're an alien.
Speaker 2:Wow, as if I knew that was going to come up. So that's us conspiracy theories. Okay, next question.
Speaker 1:Any tips for bloating digestion.
Speaker 2:What you're going to say, something else, ben, what did you think I was going to say? Any tips for blow jobs?
Speaker 1:yeah, no one asked us that. That's lucky because I got the clue. Mate any tips for bloating digestion that aren't pills, green drinks or things that make you shit yourself yeah, I got some.
Speaker 2:Chew your food, really chew your food. Go for walks after you eat. Eat slower. But also bloating is a natural part of the digestion process, so you can't avoid it completely.
Speaker 1:And I guess some people bloat more than others. Yeah, I don't think I really suffer with bloating, unless I've literally like shoveled everything down my throat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think maybe if you've got like a slight intolerance or something, it might affect you. But yeah, I do think like things you can actually do just eat a bit slower, go for a walk after you eat and maybe I think, soluble fiber is something that's quite good. So foods are soluble. Soluble fiber reduce bloating, but again, bloating is normal guys. Yeah, like to to eat and digest like you're going to release gases and that kind of stuff, and it's not something to be ashamed of. It's not.
Speaker 1:Have you ever been on a jet two holiday?
Speaker 2:no, I haven't and I never will. Darling, hold my hand. What?
Speaker 1:What if they sponsored us?
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to accept sponsorship. I'm not going on a jet-to-holiday. How big a sponsor are we talking Like? How much money A hundred grand Each you'll share Each? And where do I have to go on a jet-to-holiday and do you come with me? Yeah, okay, so we're on a jet two holiday, yeah, and we can take Shannon. And I've got to post it on my social media yeah, and we can go wherever we want.
Speaker 1:Where jet two flies to Spain, yeah.
Speaker 2:But we can go out of school holiday season. All right, I guess I could, I guess.
Speaker 1:I could, and Jess Glynn's going to be on the flight singing to us, and Alex Scott, her girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I can get on board. Okay, cool, jet to. I'm sorry I was so dismissive of that first suggestion. Get in touch, but take me on a holiday. Sure, I like how we're like and Shannon can come. Shannon, if you're listening, pack your bags, bitch.
Speaker 1:Jet two holidays all round. What do you think about secondhand sports stuff and where can you get it?
Speaker 2:Absolutely A hundred percent. Not only is it good for people who maybe don't have loads of resources to buy firsthand sports stuff Really good for people who maybe don't have loads of resources to buy first-hand sports stuff, really good for the environment and it's good if you want to try something out and you're not sure if you like it or not yet yeah yeah, by the way, it's great yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 1:Um, I, to be fair, like most of my stuff, is from Vinted. Um, yeah, I mean literally other than my socks. Everything I had on when I came to my PT session today was from Vinted. My converse, yeah. My sweaty bitty shorts, yeah. My sports bra, gym shark boxers no, I just I didn't have any pants on today because I was wearing cycling shorts you don't wear pants, just cycling shorts.
Speaker 2:I didn't today. Are you serious? Yeah, you go commando when you got cycling shorts on. Yeah, they're really thick ones, um, but that is wild why I just think that's something you should wear pants with. No, I do sometimes. All right, okay, guys, we're divided in the room. I want you to get in touch. Comment under something. I don't care what you comment on. Do you wear pants, underwear, knickers, whatever you call them under your cycling shorts or running shorts, if they're tight compression ones?
Speaker 1:Thick ones, like you know, those sweaty bitty ones. They're not C3. Do you?
Speaker 2:wear pants with jeans Because they're quite thick. Well, yeah, well, yeah, you say it like it's different. All right, we're torn. We're not sure on that one, we're 50-50.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we're here for second-hand sports gear, but you know don't no underwear. Yeah, don't buy it off me. No, Unless you're into that. I mean, obviously I wear it, I take it off, I wash it and I do sometimes wear pants with them. I just didn't today.
Speaker 2:Well, let the flaps out, that's what I say. Yeah, I just didn't today. Well, let the flaps out, that's what I say, yeah.
Speaker 1:Question 13. Shall we all do something fun? Who asked that one? Who do you think? Shannon, no.
Speaker 2:Jenny, no, I don't know. Rachel, rachel, yeah, yeah, obviously I mean maybe we should have another London trip. Yeah, we actually went to a serial killer exhibition. Yeah, yeah, obviously I mean maybe we should have another London trip. Yeah, we actually went to a serial killer exhibition, yeah, in London. And that was. We were cackling, we were laughing so much. There was a picture of the victims and I said, rachel, is it Ted Bundy? So Ted Bundy, like had all the same victim type. And I said, rachel, stand up against that wall, you look exactly like one of Ted Bundy, like had all the same victim type. And I said, rachel, stand up against that wall, you look exactly like one of Ted Bundy's victims. And she did really fit in.
Speaker 1:But then she was like no, it looks like my mum. And made like, got a picture of her mum up and put it up against the picture, yeah, and sent it to her mum.
Speaker 2:Go, mum, you could have been Ted Bundy's victim and she replied very true, um, so that was yes.
Speaker 1:Rachel, we will do something fun okay next question why has Terry Bakes got so many followers?
Speaker 2:did he pop off on tiktoker during covid? I think so. Is he local?
Speaker 1:yeah, so he used to have a. He's had a couple of shops in Norwich. I think it's called like bake away on that road down there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and which is no longer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now he just sells stuff online. He swears a lot and Well, maybe we'll get him on the pod. Nah.
Speaker 2:No Nah.
Speaker 1:Nah, he's um. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, he's got 367,000 followers on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Go through them and see what kind of followers they are. I'm getting it up right now Because he may have just been really successful and, like you know, popped off at the right time. Do you know what?
Speaker 1:I think a lot of middle-aged, like 50s women who like a man who swears and is a bit cheeky yeah, I mean, there's definitely some people on here Is that many Do a lot of women like that. I don't know, I mean they. I'm not going to lie A lot of these people on here.
Speaker 2:Are they real? Sorry, terry, if you're listening, we're not accusing you of doing anything untoward, we're just jealous of your success. I think yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean yeah well done terry for making a name for yourself. Yeah, he's. He's got a thing, hasn't he? Yeah, I'll have to try one of his bakes, maybe. Oh, I've just had another question come through. Oh, my god, live on air. Should we do it? Yeah, this is like that, yeah, go on.
Speaker 1:Then how do you stop aching muscles as you age, and how much recovery should you take after a gym session lifting weights? Do I know this person?
Speaker 2:yeah, who is oh?
Speaker 1:we're just talking about you, rachel um well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Make sure you're eating enough, make sure you're resting enough.
Speaker 2:Stretching would be good, maybe mobility, having a hot bath having a magnesium salts, yeah, um, sports massage, yeah, I mean, I can't remember a day when I haven't ached. In the last six years, since you were born, since I was born, I've been carrying the weight of the world on these shoulders. I wonder if I'm so fucking stacked? No, I just think. Is existing in a pain-free body possible? No, I think there's always niggles, there's always aches, there's always pains. Just got to push through it. Okay, andrew. Okay, suck it up, go again. When your body says it's done, your mind's only 10% done. That's Andrew Goggins. Who's going to carry the boats? Andrew Goggins, is that not his name? No, yeah, who's going to carry the boats? Andrew Goggins, is that not his name? No, david, david Goggins.
Speaker 1:Sorry, Right, moving on, yeah, question 16. What inspired you to both get into health and fitness?
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't know what else I was going to do with my life, so I thought personal training, that would be a bit for me, I think. Yeah, I lost loads of weight, and I didn't lose weight in any good way. Coffee and fags was my approach to health and diet. Coke diet, coke, coffee and fags. Kate moss's diet yeah, minus the heroin. Yeah, um, health is wealth. Oh god, don't push it too far.
Speaker 2:Um, but plus the cocaine only joking, we're never gonna get a brand deal, no um, and then I was really skinny and I thought, oh, my god, I can help everyone get this skinny. I'm gonna be a personal trainer and I was really into self-development. I was awful to be. Well, we've already spoken about your book collection. Yeah, I'm a toxic male. And then, yeah, literally fell into that and haven't done another job. This has been my only proper full-time job and career ever. Like this is it for me forever and ever.
Speaker 1:For the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I got into it.
Speaker 1:I got into it because I was really had some health issues. And then I mean, I hate to say it, but when you feel better and you are healthier and you exercise actually does make you feel better, annoyingly so, and you exercise actually does make you feel better, annoyingly annoyingly. And now it's just like yeah, that was. I don't think I was inspired. It was like last ditch, like I've got to sort my life out because if not, I'm gonna spend my life. You know well. I mean I was worried, I could. I started to worry I was gonna have a heart attack, yeah, and I could die young or I'd I would end up having to use a mobility scooter at like 45 and I just didn't want that so that inspired me sometimes I would like that now.
Speaker 2:I think people are often waiting for this burst of inspiration and it's really not. I think we watch so many of these like health journey videos and vlogs, and it really is so boring and dull most of the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I didn't tell people really to begin with that I was doing anything, because you just got to get out there, because you are just living your normal life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just making slightly different choices. That may or may not make you feel better. Yeah, and that is a journey within itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that is all health and fitness comes down to, I think, is making choices that make you feel better. Slowly and surely, you'll start making more of them, more of them, and then it'll just be normal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So stop waiting for inspiration, just do it.
Speaker 1:Just do it. What barriers did you face? What changed and what made you actually go for it?
Speaker 2:I think when you see a big bit of progress, that helps you just keep going for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Barriers. I think, like anyone, just like start stop start stop.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest barrier is was my own mind.
Speaker 2:yeah get out your own way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just you know, having this, having an all or nothing, that's a big barrier. Yeah, yeah, massively, and like actually being consistent and just keeping on doing something. And then, yeah, I think, when I started to see some progress and feel better, and then, you know, I set myself a goal that when I got to a certain weight I was going to join the gym, and then I started to feel different, so that made me keep going for it, I guess, but yeah, my biggest barrier was definitely myself.
Speaker 2:I also think people's expectations of the results they're going to achieve is a barrier within itself, because you want everything super, super fast and to the extremes, and when that doesn't happen within the first two months. You then get disheartened and give up. Yeah, so that those expectations are a barrier? Yeah, because they're not real and most of the time that's just not going to happen any advice for people that are inspired.
Speaker 1:By you that don't think they can do it themselves?
Speaker 2:You can yeah like Jesus go for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even if it's just one small thing. Yeah, and say that question again Any advice for people inspired by you that don't think they can do it themselves?
Speaker 2:What do you mean? Do it Like? What are we doing? What is anyone doing Like? Is it being consistent? Is it the running can do it themselves? What do you mean? Do it like what? What are we doing? What is anyone doing like that's? Is it being consistent? Is it the running? Is it, you know, feeling good like what? What is it that we're doing? Because I don't think we're doing anything particularly impressive no, we're not, we are not like.
Speaker 2:This is what the hell fun is all about. We really are some basic bitches. Yeah, like we're, we're. You know, we like exercising every now and then yeah, I mean vegetables every now and then. But we're not exceptional human beings.
Speaker 1:We're just trying it, trying our best and working out what works for us and what we like. Like once I've done, done, run Norwich, you're never running again. I'm never running 10K again. Well, I probably will run 10K, but I probably I want to focus on doing 5Ks, yeah, and that will involve some longer runs, but I just think I don't have the attention span all the time for 10Ks. So just find out what works for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think. Don't think about what anyone else is doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's why I've been so consistent. This time of my life is really the most consistent. I've been with running and the gym for such a long time because I literally don't give a shit about what anyone else is doing, how fast they're running, how much they're lifting. I don't care about following a special plan. I literally turn up. I do what I enjoy, I like what I'm doing and it makes me want to do more of it. I don't care if it's the most efficient way, the most optimal way, I'm just doing it. I enjoy it yeah that's the other thing.
Speaker 1:Don't get too caught up in the tiny minute details of things and I guess if it's down to like somebody that hasn't done anything before and maybe they feel self-conscious. I follow this girl on Instagram I think she's called Flosserette Vicky and like she does loads of home workouts. Like she does go to the gym, but she does a lot of home workouts and you know, I've got a couple of dumbbells and I will occasionally just like move them out the way when you need to get to something.
Speaker 1:I mean, I did actually do one whole workout with them once, um, but you know, there are, if it's, if it is a confidence thing, there are things you can do at home, I guess, to maybe get you started, just to make you feel more confident. Yeah, um, I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I don't. I I think people think I do more than I do because I really don't do that much.
Speaker 2:I think look for inspiration within yourself, not from other people.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, wise words mic drop.
Speaker 2:What's the next question? Because we've got a few more on my phone as well.
Speaker 1:Um advice for someone that used to be strong but is now weaker, has mental health problems and carpal tunnel, so can't do power lifting like they used to just be kind to yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you've got a new set of things you have to work with, so you are starting from a new starting point. So see where you can go from there rather than getting back to where you were. That might just not be possible right now. Yeah, um, maybe you know you can't do powerlifting. Could you get into a different sport? Maybe I was gonna say calisthenics, but that would be good for your carpal tunnel running, running good for your mental health, good for your mental health you don't need your hand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe you could just do leg days all the time. Yeah, you'd have massive legs.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, if you've got like, if you're struggling with your mental health, finding stuff that actually you enjoy is the most important part. Don't worry about making any real physical progress yet. Just think about getting your head straight as best you can. Joining a community might help. Yeah, you know Gator 5K, something like that, hiking, hiking.
Speaker 1:You know know, being at one with nature, yeah, going for a nice walk, because actually that is good for your mental health. Yeah, and it's not as like tough on your body, I guess be kind to yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the biggest thing there question 20 and this is my last question. Okay, pcos, just arab as questions. I've asked all of them pcos, polycystic ovary syndrome, somebody that's trying to lose weight with pcos, is it? You know they're saying that there's lots of things around calories in versus calories out. Um, is it as simple as that for PCOS, or is it more hormone related?
Speaker 2:I've worked with a lot of people with PCOS over the years and I know for a fact that, even in a very low calorie deficit and I do trust that they are doing it properly before anyone goes no, you're not weighing out everything. I do think it's a lot harder because you're. I might correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe your BMR, which is your basal metabolic rate, the standard amount of calories you just burn to survive, I think that is a lot lower, or tends to be lower, so you then need even less to be in that deficit. Um, of course, there's stuff to do with insulin sensitivity. That's quite prevalent with people with pcos, not to mention, like you know, the symptoms of it that can be quite painful and quite, um, debilitating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think a lot of people I think it's also like tend to be more of the type of foods you're eating has a impact of people. Pcos rather just simply calories in, calories out. I know there's a lot of research being done into like particular diets and I don't mean diets as in weight loss diets, but like foods you eat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that tend to work better with people with PCOS and I'm not suggesting this or saying this is the way forward, but I know that GLP-1s have helped people with PCOS to manage their symptoms and to lose weight. But that is an anecdotal thing I've heard from a handful of people, so maybe look into it, go to.
Speaker 1:GP Interesting. So I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was like a young teenager, when I was like a young teenager and then I got type 2 diabetes, which I think if you have PCOS you are at higher risk of getting it.
Speaker 1:And then I didn't do any special diet to lose weight and I did find losing the first like five stone, five and a half stone, like quite easy just by following Slimming World. I'm not promoting it. I'm not promoting it. It worked for me, um, but I did cut out white bread, which is like white carbs are supposed to be, like you're supposed to eat more complex carbs, aren't you, um?
Speaker 2:but I ate tons of potatoes yeah, I think maybe reach out to a specialist if you have the resources to do so and there probably are.
Speaker 1:Actually there is a man on Instagram and this it really winds me up that he's a pcos specialist because he's a man, but there are people on instagram. But you know, I I find the thing is as well, I might have pcos, somebody else might have it, but our bodies are different. Yeah, it's, yeah, I don't think it's as simple as calories in, calories out, but then I don't know we're not we're not.
Speaker 2:We're not experts no, and it is different for people who have it like yeah, the whole group of symptoms you can have with pcos can differ from person to person as well. Yeah, so it's not as straightforward as a one-size-fits-all solution for everyone either. No, sorry, we can be more help with that, but definitely reach out to some specialists if that is something that you're struggling with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe we'll have a look and see if we can see anybody on Instagram. Yeah, maybe we're going to try and have someone on the pod, aren't we?
Speaker 2:Yeah, With you know that kind of talk about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, last few questions how much progress to expect in the gym when starting out? The people come unstuck with this a lot because I think they're so used to seeing transformation photos on Instagram and whatever on social media, so they expect a lot really soon Instagram and whatever on social media, so they expect a lot really soon. And they also expect, you know, from one session a week maybe to see loads of gains. I think if you're brand new to lifting and you're following a decent enough program, you're hitting all the body parts and you're progressively lifting heavier weights with good form, you can expect to see and you're like eating enough protein and stuff and fueling your body properly in the first kind of six months you probably see quite a decent amount of progress, whether that's strength wise or maybe you can see a bit more muscle definition and stuff, depending on, like, how lean you are in certain body parts.
Speaker 2:Um, some parts of some people's bodies just don't grow very fast at all and that's down to genetics, yeah, um. So I always say this is my number one rule for fitness and health lower your expectations for everything, because it's when we get disappointed, it's when we get disheartened, it's when we want to give up. So if you go in not expecting to see a change in the first six months, well then you're going to be pleasantly surprised when you do see a bicep pop out after three months and it's going to keep and weird forearms and it's going to keep you going. So lower expectations. But a newbie person in the gym following a decent program and fueling your body well should see a decent amount of progress in the first six months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do think people get obsessed with like how much they're lifting, how much they're squatting, like it's all relative to you know who you are, where you are in your journey, injuries, how often you go, like if you're female, like where you are in your cycle, like I mean, I don't feel like I I do lift heavier than I did when I started with you a year ago, but it's not like I'm suddenly like power lifting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these things take years and years and years and a lot of the people you see who are sharing their journeys with you online because, let let's be real, most people are comparing themselves to people they see online. Yeah, do it four, five, six times a week. They're so dialed in on their nutrition and their sleep. That's their hobby, yeah. So, like I always say, extreme results require extreme measures.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if you want big, fast results or significant results, you're going to have to take extreme measures and really commit to it. But if you're happy to just have balance, then you've got to also be aware that you're not going to see massive, crazy progress in that short amount of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:Lower your expectations. Yeah, that like short amount of time. Yeah, lower your expectations. Yeah, um, how fast do you lose your gains when you've had time off, either for holidays, injuries, etc. Not that fast.
Speaker 2:I, I there is a like a percentage, but the way that you might say you have like six weeks off because you're injured and you come back to the gym, the first few sessions are going to be hard, but because you've already got like a foundation of like strength and fitness and you know what. To the gym, the first few sessions are going to be hard, but because you've already got like a foundation of like strength and fitness and you know what you're doing Muscle memory, muscle memory to an extent. You will pick that up fast again and it will probably take you six weeks to get back to where you were. Again, it depends how long you've had off. You know what's your lifestyle been like while you're off. What injuries are you carrying, you know. Are you going back in at the same level you were when you stopped? Um, it doesn't. Once you've been doing it a while, it won't take you long to get back into the swing of things. Yeah, if you've built a good foundation before that time off this is how I feel about running.
Speaker 1:Like you know, I think give me another couple of weeks. As long as I'm running three, four times a week, I'll just be back to where I was.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's not like starting from the beginning. No, exactly.
Speaker 2:How do you find gym buddies? You've got to show up. If you want community, you've got to be part of the community. You've got to maybe reach out to people and, you know, go to certain meetups and groups and join. Maybe you join a small personal training group thing yeah you know in your local area, find a friend, drag them along to the gym, because just take your friends along, make them do it yeah but you've got to show up and you've got the show winning.
Speaker 2:If you want other people to show, winning 100%, join a cult. We're starting one actually, aren't we? I mean, I've got my Part-time cult leader t-shirt on. Yeah, yeah, gym buddies, just put yourself out there. And it's hard to put yourself out there yeah it is scary, but I do think joining little groups.
Speaker 2:You know, I know I keep bringing it up, but like a running club goes, 5k, an exercise class thing you can join. Um, going to socials put on, because there are a lot put on and there's a lot of communities out there that have been created. But you do have to show up and make the effort. Yeah, they're not just going to come knocking at your door saying you're ready to go to the gym and it is helpful like.
Speaker 1:So I did. I fall off spin a little bit. I was only really going on a Friday and but my friend I go to so I go with. I meet Josh there and his wife is the spin instructor on a Friday yeah but then I was like I want to start going on a Monday.
Speaker 1:so he was like well, when I'm not working, like doing the school stuff on like Mondays in July, august, I'll come, and then Sophie comes as well and that keeps me accountable because I go on a Monday when I don't want to go. Yeah, and it it does feel a bit nicer to go in the gym and like someone say hello to you, yeah, so we're all for them, but you have to make the effort. You have to make the effort, yeah.
Speaker 2:What is the one thing you wish you could?
Speaker 1:say to yourself back when you started out your fitness journey I don't know if I'll say anything.
Speaker 2:I don't even think I'm on a fitness journey.
Speaker 1:This is just a way of life.
Speaker 2:It's just a way of being, I think I would definitely be like I don't know. I still feel like I'm learning so much and things change all the time. For me, it's not the be all and end all. Your success isn't based on how little you weigh and stay true to yourself and your values and your morals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you don't like something, don't do it yeah, I think okay, the biggest thing for me is stay true to your values and your morals and be authentic to who you actually are, because that's going to lead you to more enjoyment and success over the years. Yeah, that's mine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't force yourself to do things you don't want to do.
Speaker 2:No, 10ks and that is the end of our q a how long were we talking for? Only just over an hour. Oh okay, standard for us. Yeah, I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. If you enjoyed it, let us know next week.
Speaker 1:Next week, we're gonna delve a topic Shall we decide live on air.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do this, although not live, because this is going to be pre-recorded, but do you know?
Speaker 1:what I think we should talk about.
Speaker 2:No, I don't Tell me.
Speaker 1:Sexism in sport and fitness and health.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, then let's do it. Sexism in the health and fitness industry. Health okay, all right, then let's do it. Sexism in the health and fitness industry yeah, perfect, that is next week's episode, possibly because we could change our minds this has happened before.
Speaker 2:Yeah so don't get too excited about that one, but if you have anything you want to add to that discussion, we would love to hear your thoughts. Yes, um, make, yeah, make sure you rate and review on whatever platform you're listening to this on. It really does help us, tag us and share us in your stories. Let's get the health hands out there, because this is changing people's lives it's changing our lives.
Speaker 2:We love doing it, we do love doing it and it'd be really nice if we could do more of it. Yeah, um, and we need your help to grow so we can do more of it, we can have a live show. We are gonna have a live show. Let's manifest it. We're gonna do a meet and greet listener special. We're gonna start a patreon as well. Yeah, soon. And we have got some guests incoming, haven't we?
Speaker 1:we've got two. We've got two guests lined up really good guests.
Speaker 2:So we just need to be Norwich legends, yeah, norwich legends, yeah, although, to be fair, known outside of. Norwich as well. Yep, they have actually been outside of Norwich, haven't they? Yeah, we go big on this podcast we do, and East. Anglia watch this okay, and I think that's kind of it. Yeah, thanks for listening. Bye.