From Overwhelmed To In Control: Korrie's Journey With GLP-1 Medications

Korrie was suffering with overwhelming thoughts about food every seven to ten minutes. This wasn’t a willpower problem, it was a gut-brain biological problem. We invited her to unpack what changed when a GLP-1 finally quieted that background noise—and what went wrong along the way. From a rough start on semaglutide to finding a sweet spot with tirzepatide, her path shows how dose, molecule, and support can make or break outcomes.

We walk through the messy, real decisions patients face: access barriers, compounding variability, and trying to stay safe when guidance is scarce. Korrie shares how rapid early loss cost her muscle until she raised protein and started tracking body composition. Then we go beyond the usual side effects to name the ones people whisper about: a bubbly mouth feel post-injection, plugged ears during active loss, and a stubborn, dose-related apathy that looks like laziness but isn’t. By separating apathy from anhedonia, she mapped a clear, dose-dependent pattern—then proved it by stepping down to 12.5 mg and feeling her executive function snap back online.

Maintenance takes center stage as the longest phase of the journey. Korrie explains how stable weight, quiet hunger, and freedom from sugar spirals changed daily life. No more ultra-processed “diet” foods, no more fear of a cupcake, and no more reactive hypoglycemia. We talk practical playbooks: logging weekly appetite and mood, hydrating, hitting protein for lean mass, and working with a clinician who adjusts doses based on function, not just the scale. Personalization is the theme—some thrive on lower doses, others need higher, and future incretin options promise even better matching to biology.

If you’re curious about GLP-1s, battling constant cravings, or stuck between side effects and results, this conversation offers clarity, nuance, and hope. Subscribe, share this episode with someone who needs it, and leave a review to help others find credible, compassionate metabolic health guidance.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 0:00

Welcome to the Modern Metabolic Health Podcast with your host, Dr. Lindsay Ogle, Board Certified Family Medicine and Obesity Medicine Physician. Here we learn how we can treat and prevent modern metabolic conditions such as diabetes, PCOS, fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome, sleep apnea, and more. We focus on optimizing lifestyle while utilizing safe and effective medical treatments. Please remember that while I am a physician, I am not your physician. Everything discussed here is provided as general medical knowledge and not direct medical advice. Please talk to your doctor about what is best for you. Welcome to Modern Metabolic Health Podcast. I'm Dr. Lindsay Ogle, and I'm so excited about my guest today. I have Corey here. She's a real life patient who I actually met on TikTok. And I really love her content and the fact that she shares her story and is so vulnerable about her experiences that really, you know, paint a picture of what it's like to be a patient on a GLP1 medication. And so I invited her here to share some more about her story. So welcome, Corey.

Why Share About GLP-1s Online

Korrie 1:20

Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. And I love your content and I love that you're so accessible online for people to be able to get questions answered and not medical advice, but just to see a provider talking about it is really helpful in this space.

Defining Food Noise And Daily Impact

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 1:36

Yeah. Yeah. I decided to, you know, create uh like a Dr. Lindsay Ogle social media because there's so much misinformation online and especially about obesity treatment and GLP1 medications. And so I felt like it was important to kind of fight that. Um and so I'm sharing that medical knowledge, but I also love when I hear, you know, patients and the real life experiences because I'm learning from people as well on social media. So it's great to have both and in the community, especially on TikTok, but some other social media as well. You can can get both of that. So thank you as well. Um, and I know in some of your content you've talked about how, you know, being on a GLP1 medication, you have, you know, had success with weight loss, but really you've noticed a huge benefit in your you know food noise control. Can you tell us a little bit more about what that's been like for you?

Speaker 1 2:37

Well, for me with food noise, food control, it was just, it was a constant every seven to 10 minute um loop going on in my head, basically saying I was so hungry and I needed to eat. Um, and it would sat, it would get satisfied if I ate something. And I'm I'm not, we didn't have the types of food in the house that you would consider to be poor foods. Um, and so I would reach for an apple, peanut butter, yogurt, to cottage cheese, banana, anything like that, a glass of milk. And I would think, okay, I'm gonna be fine until lunch now. I won't do anything or I'll be fine until dinner. And seven to ten minutes later, that would come back in my head. The same noise would come back in my head that I was, and I would literally have to satisfy it. I I relate it to it, must be similar to how um an alcoholic or a drug addict um thinks. And I don't have any issues with, I've never even tried any sort of drugs. And I don't all I like is sake with um with sushi. So I'm like, but I'm no better in that regard as in as far as like the way that my body is run. It's something to do in my brain. There's a broken loop. And so with this, the I mean, the second I took this within an hour, it just shut off, how they say, just like a light, it just shut off. And I never experienced it again. Um, and it has been transformative beyond words. Um, all I thought about it was I thought about that all day long. All day long, it was just in my head all day long. And then the second thought between those thoughts of when I was thinking that I'd be able to wait till the next 10 minutes or wait till lunch was just that I was such a failure. And I was just awful and um how miserable I was. And so to not have that, there's so much space in my brain now, just for everything else. And I don't have that self-sabotage thought anymore of what a failure I am in that one aspect of my life. Everything else, you know, I'd feel like I was a failure, but this one where you felt like it had to be such self-control and will, it, I had none. Um, and so this has been freeing beyond words. And so that's why I'm so vocal, because I want others to be able to experience the same and know that there are real people who are going through this as well. And I really started talking about it probably a lot more when a girlfriend of mine, I was talking about and she was crying to me because she saw that I was getting um really a lot of help with this. And she just said, I'm just miserable. I was like, that's what I said. I was miserable. And so we found a way for her to access it. Um, and she um she was only able to access some maglatide. I don't think it was, I can't remember if it was Agovey or name brand, name brand or compound. Um, but she was only able to do that and she desperately wanted Zetbound or Trzepatide, but you know, it's just so inaccessible. Um, and so that's what makes it difficult. And um I really want to be able to help in that advocacy for it to be able to be accessible earlier than what we think it should, that that it's going to be at this point.

Access Barriers And Early Missteps

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 5:57

Well, you're definitely making progress in being an advocate for GOP1 medication. So thank you in sharing your story, um, both with the people in your life and on Tulsa and social media. Um and you're right. I mean, it is it is suffering when you're constantly fighting that food noise and those urges and cravings. Can I ask how long, um, like how far back do you remember struggling with food noise? Um, and then um around like what age did you start the GLP1 medication?

Semaglutide Intolerance And Switching Paths

Speaker 1 6:35

Well, food noise, it's really hard to say. I mean, I always just ate. I ate as a teenager. I didn't really have a problem um with much of anything. I was very active. My body naturally would um stay in shape and lose weight. Um, and I think when it really started was when I had a lot of stressors. Um, and this one of the bigger ones was in um college. I was in a cheerleading accident, they didn't catch me, and I had years of physical therapy um and um things like that. So that I would say is when it really got a lot worse. Um, and so it's just kind of been a cumulative effect ever since then. Um, and then I started GLP1s. Let's see, it's been a little over two years. So I think I was 49. So I'm 51 now. Um, and it was yeah, it was the month after my 49th birthday. Because the month, the month before I was on the on the beach with um a girlfriend of mine walking, and I just I told her how miserable I was. We were talking about something with it, and um, and I had no idea the next month my answer was gonna be coming. Because you're always just like, when will my answer come? When is this gonna happen? When will the the miracle happen? Because you just don't think it's ever going to fully happen. You try everything. I just saw a friend of mine online. Um, she's trying now the um the apple sin apple cider vinegar want diet, you know, where you take like, like, no, don't first of all, you're gonna ruin your teeth, um, and your stomach acid. Uh, but I tried all of those things, all everything. And um, and I just said how miserable I was. And then I found out about this word called trusepatide in August, and um maybe a week before my birthday. And then I tried to find it, got more information about it, found out that there was this one nurse practitioner in town who was willing to get it for me. And this is what she was doing, but she didn't ask me any medical questions. She was just and I felt very uncomfortable with it. Um, I had tried Wagobi name brand back in 2021, and um, and I guess that is the first time I tried a GLP one. I just discount it because I hated it so much. Um, and I was outrageously ill on it. Um, I could not get off my couch. I looked gray. Um, and I finally it was just after three months, I was like, I can't live like this. I'd rather be fat um because I think I'm gonna die early. Like that's how bad it was for me. So whenever anybody brings it up, I'm like, sorry, I'm not, I am not the one who's gonna say every all of them are whatever one you can access is the best one. Cause I mean, it was miserable for me. I was so sick. Um, and so I was very cautious about taking ter zepatide because it wasn't even zip bound available yet. That wasn't available until that late November, early December. And um, and so I went to my local, I'd been going to get IV therapy, vitamin therapy for a while at that point, um, just for nutrition and actually trying to lose weight, thinking that'll just like flush the fat out of my body. I don't even know. You know, you try everything. And um, and so I asked him about it, the manager there, and I said, Can you have you heard of something called trzebatite? He was like, We can get that for you. I mean, you'll be our first patient, but we can for you. So they got it for me. Um, I can't remember how much I paid. It was either six or nine hundred dollars for 2.5, but I think they gave me a discount because they cared. They were so sweet. Um, but um, it was very expensive for compound 2.5. And I remember him looking at me and saying, You have got to make sure you eat on this. Okay. And I had no problem, sure, no problem. He said, No, I'm not kidding. You have to make sure you get at least 700 calories a day, and you have to. And um, and I mean, I know that that's still too little, but he was he didn't want my body to starve. Um, and so I had very little medical help with this. I mean, it was like the manager who was like a fitness guy, you know, at this local IV place managing my care with this. Um, and so I started on it. I lost weight very quickly within the first few months, but I was not feeling great um with it, felt like I was gonna pass out a lot. And um, I think it's because they mixed it with BPC 157, um, because they have to mix it with something. And um, and then he also told me, make sure you're getting enough protein. And so that's how I started drinking a lot of protein shakes every day. And I didn't end up losing, I lost um muscle at first because I did the in-body scan with them. And I lost muscle the first few months, and they told me I needed to up my protein. So I started doing that consistently, and I tried again a few months later and I had gained muscle and continued to lose fat, but I gained back that muscle somehow just by having the protein. And um and then, and then everything was fine. So I I and but I hadn't been exercising during that time at all either. Um, I'd been dealing with needing a hysterectomy, which I had the next August. And so I've been exhausted for a long time. And then I just had an iron infusion, which the hematologist said is a year's worth of iron, um, because um I was so low. And so I just had that, I think, six or eight weeks ago. So I've had a long journey of different health issues with surrounding that, um, being a woman of my age, um, but in it this whole time has been trucepatide and then zip bound. And so once I started Zetbound in that December, it was very smooth. Um, and they quickly brought me back up to um 7.5 within the month. Um, and it's been smooth sailing ever since then overall. I've had some side effects um that I talk about on TikTok uh more exclusively. Um uh because I think that a lot of people don't know that a lot of these side effects are related. And so I just throw it out there and people are like, oh my gosh, I had no idea it was from that. I'm like, well, talk to your provider. However, it's probably from that. So um, because you're thinking it's just gonna be nausea or constipation or something like that. And there's so many different weird side effects, like um um brushing, like uh after an injection, a lot of times my mouth feels bubbly and slimy, and like I can't clean my teeth enough. And I mean, I'm scrubbing my teeth in there. That's a side effect. It's a weird one. But it didn't so I have made this post about it, and I could not believe how many people had the same, and they had nobody knew it was related. Um, so it's just like all these different weird little things that you're trying to understand how this really works and how much it really affects all the different areas of your body. Um, so, but it's overall, it's been an absolute medical miracle for me.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 13:37

Yeah, yeah. Well, it sounds like it's been a journey and that went in different directions along the way. And I think that's also a testament to, you know, how much you know, people like yourself are looking for help in weight management and treating the disease of obesity and will go through different hoops to get access to that treatment and maintain on the treatment. And you're you're right, everyone responds to the medications differently. Um, on average, people do tolerate trisepatide butter like you experienced. Um, some people do do okay with Vigovi orosymphic or semaglutide, but on average, trisepatide is um better tolerated. Um I always say that too. Um, I I know, I know.

Compounding, Dosing, And Protein Lessons

Speaker 1 14:27

And I always feel bad. I'm like, sorry, I'm not gonna be the spokesperson for them ever. So yeah. So then we'll see what happens with rechatrotide. Um I'm excited about that one.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 14:39

Yeah, and it is an exciting time because we're gonna have even more options available to continue to personalize the treatment um of obesity um based on someone's response or their side effect profile. Um, so it's just yeah, really exciting time. And um I and you mentioned some of the like more, I guess, abnormal side effects, ones that aren't talked about as much. Do you have any other examples of some of those side effects?

Rare Side Effects Beyond Nausea

Speaker 1 15:10

Um a small one is the um, it feels like your ears are plugged, like you're underwater. Um, and I noticed that that was exclusively during the weight loss phase. And what I found is that for a lot of people, that's when it is. I've only seen one person who said it lasted afterward. But apparently that's something to do with things that are changing. And it even affects things in your ears. I'm not quite sure. I can't quite remember, but it felt like the day or two to three after an injection. I mean, it was just like my ears were plugged. And um, and so that's one that's minimal, no big deal. Um, the biggest one for me, which has been negative and life-altering, which I didn't fully put together until recently, um, is medication-induced apathy. And there's one aspect of it, I uh you'll have to correct me because I can't remember the words anhedonia, anhedenia. I I don't remember which one. How do you say it? Do you remember? Anhedonia. Thank you. And that's with um loss of pleasure in your life, where you feel like you're in the moment and you know you should be excited about it, and you recognize that you you kind of are, but you can't connect to it fully. And I had that some during the loss phase. Um, I definitely had it because there were different periods where I was just like, I don't know why I feel so detached. And I could, I thought to myself, this has got to be the medication. Um, and then once I got to maintenance, that went away. Um, except for I didn't I digress, one month um on uh 12.5 milligrams was the only time I didn't have it at all. It just completely went away, just that one month, but insurance wouldn't allow me to have it for more than one month. So I had to go to 15. And so every single other dose, 10 all the way down to 2.5, um, and then 15 on. So I was on 15 for 18 months. I then had medication-induced apathy where I was the other type was gone. I was completely experiencing, happy about everything, could feel feel everything again. But I had this apathy about anything else in life that I was doing as far as bills, as far as cleaning, as far as just taking care of things, I literally could not do it. Um, I could not force myself to do it. It felt beyond, it wasn't even a fatigue or exhaustion, because I know the zip-bound fatigue that you get the day after an injection. Um, this was not fatigue that would, this was in my brain. I could not force myself to do it. And so as I I made a video about this, um, which that's when a lot of people related to it, um, I my I got I got pulled. This is when I really knew it was connected. I got pulled over and I was like, I'm sitting out of light here. I'm not a criminal. What's happening? And I found out my car registration was lapsed by like six months. So I had to go through this whole thing. I think my husband's was as well. Our boat registration, I had let, and because this happened, I was like, what else is happening? Um, my um passport was expired and we were leaving for Costa Rica six weeks later. Um, my umbrella insurance for our house was expired. Um, and then a bunch of bills. I got like late notice. I mean, this has never happened to me before. I am an extreme, ultra extreme person. I used to have an organizing business decades ago. Um, every piece of paper in my house has a home. You know, like I know where everything is, and I know that it might be a little OCD, but I love it. It makes me feel very good about everything. It's controlled, it's organized. I never have to worry about something happens to me, they're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this mess that we have to deal with. It's not gonna be like that. It's just everything is clean and um and organized. And I love that. I love that aspect of myself. Um, I like waking up and cleaning my house and taking care of things and taking care of other people. And this to have that absent from my life was absolutely ripped away part of my personality and actually made it very difficult at home just to be able to accomplish anything. I have, I still have an entire bin full of bills from a year ago that I never even looked at. Um, so now I'm starting to go through that. So recently, once I discovered, decided this is absolutely related. And the only time I never experienced it was on 12.5, I decided, okay, well, I'm moving down to 12.5. So I just did that three weeks ago. And the first week I had some side effects from moving down. The second week, I felt it lift a little bit. And I had the thoughts of, I think I'm going to pick that up from the other room or I'm going to organize that. And it was so bizarre to be able to function to do it. Um, and then this third week, um, we were away this weekend, and all I could think about the entire weekend was I can't wait to get home and organize my bedroom and do this and put things away. And I haven't had that thought in two years. And so I came home and I mean, I've been like just crazy cleaning everything. My husband came home yesterday and he said, Are we inviting people over to our bedroom that I don't know about? What's happening here? And I was like, No, my brain's just working again. And he said, What are you talking about? And I shared with him everything and he was stunned by it all. And then later on, he told me to that I needed to get some creatine. And I don't know where that can't, you know, like I think that men, I don't know what it is, but every everybody in there's just this thing out there right now. Creatine is like the answer to everything. I'm like, my set bound is the answer to everything. I just need to know what the right dose is. Um, and so I find it remarkable that it can be either way too much or not enough. And I've I've seen another person online to where she said the exact same thing. You know, it's just it's one dose that's perfect for me and all the other doses. I'll lose weight and I'll maintain, but it affects my brain in some strange way, to where if it's too little, it does that one side effect. And if it's too much, it does it. I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I'm not a medical provider at all. I don't understand it, but I know that that one dose is perfect for me. And that side effect has been extraordinarily debilitating. Um, and so I think once people understand that that can be a side effect, the more extreme version or this version, and because I really thought I was just becoming lazy, and that was the overall view when people would talk online. They thought that they had just become very lazy. And a lot of people say that Christmas is their favorite time of year for decorating. They didn't even care to put their decorations out. And that's how I felt I had to really force myself to do a lot of different things because I was like, it's gonna take a lot. And usually I'd be all over it. Um, so that's one side effect that I think that physicians need to be very aware of because I don't I I know that it's not been talked about much at all. I don't think that there's a lot of awareness about it yet. Um, so that is kind of what I'm trying to do now is to get that one little piece out there to where there'll be more education about it and they'll be able to help their patients.

Apathy vs Anhedonia And Dose Sweet Spot

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 22:46

Yeah, thank you for sharing that. Um, and I'm glad that you're feeling back to you know yourself again. And what I'm really hearing there is the importance of just like paying attention to your body and your mind and how you're responding and acting after any change, you know, medically, but a dose change when we're you know talking about GLP1 medications. And hopefully you're working with somebody who you're comfortable communicating that to. So you can bring those concerns and ask if it could be related to the medication, um, and then if we should make an adjustment and then kind of watch after that. Um, because you're right, there's so much of an emphasis on the GI side effects, and that's definitely the most common, but there are other side effects, and it could be directly from the medication or it could be because of, you know, a secondary reason um like dehydration that happens a lot, but um, it's yeah, um, everyone has an individualized.

Speaker 1 23:47

Some people are genuinely depressed. Um, and so it maybe they're thinking that that it's because of that, and maybe they just are depressed, you know, or I found that a lot of people actually are not depressed, but it happens to be the medication and they think that they're depressed. And I mean, it's just it's like, no, this there's a lot to unrack with all of this. So we have to be very cautious because it really does affect your brain in ways that I had no idea. So um, yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. Some of the side effects are different than what we've ever talked about. Yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 24:23

And you mentioned you're in maintenance now. Can you tell me a little bit about what that experience has been like compared to when you were like actively losing weight?

Recognizing Medication Effects On Life Admin

Speaker 1 24:34

Well, it was, I mean, I got there pretty quickly, I would say a little over a year. Um, so I started in September, September 16th, 2023. So everybody knows their date generally. So um I stopped losing weight. Um what was yesterday? So a year ago, yesterday is when I stopped losing weight. So it was a little over a year when I stopped losing weight. Um and I probably could have been in maintenance, you know, before that, but um, I hit a number that I never imagined that I would ever hit again without, I mean, like the one time that I had lost a lot of weight, maybe seven years ago, I was at the gym six to seven days a week, um, working out for a couple hours every time. And I was eating 800 calories a day. I mean, like it was impossible to keep up. It wasn't healthy. It was healthy in one aspect, but not in another. Um, but it was an impossible standard to keep up with. And I couldn't, I couldn't. Um, and so to be able to get to this so seamlessly and easy, I mean, it was easy for me because my body just literally runs like God intended. Um, it's like a machine now, and it just processes things just fine, and I don't have to worry about anything. And I never ate poorly before. I just ate a ton of diet food. Like I am so happy to never eat another processed little pre-packaged meal ever again. Like, I don't even care. Like, I know those little pizzas with the the French pizza with the pepperoni on it. I am so happy to never eat that ever again. Um, because that's what I lived on for years, just trying to just keep everything so rationed. Um, and to not do that anymore has just been um wonderful because my body just runs so easily now. So I still eat well. Um, I eat whole foods, I eat what, but I mean, if I eat something like last night we had cupcakes because we had it with a dinner that we had ordered, and um, I did not think a thing about it. I don't beat myself about it up about it because I know that's not going to affect anything beforehand. It would have affected me for days. I would have gained weight because of just one cupcake. It would have done something, the processes, how it worked in my body, I would have gained weight, and then um it would have spiraled me for months to want more sugar. So now I don't have that in me anymore to where I desire sugar. And I also have reactive hypoglycemia, which this has resolved. Um, so it's just been um the the main the loss part um compared to maintenance, it was very short. And what I what I said when I when I got close to maintenance, um I put out into the community, I said, you know, I was panicking a bit. I said, what happens next? Like I this seems like the longest phase. Maintenance is the longest part of this journey because generally, for most, even if it takes several years for somebody to get to maintenance, the rest of your life is a lot longer. Um, and so that's when I started talking about maintenance a lot. And um, and so maintenance for me has been easy. It's just easy for me because the medication makes my body run correctly. Um, so I eat when I want, which is generally breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't think about snacking, which is not how it was before because it was every seven to 10 minutes. Um, and I just kind of go about my day and I don't think about food unless I'm hungry for a meal. And um and it's just it's not been difficult for me. So I'm I'm loving it. It's been a year yesterday, and I have been the same weight, fluctuating, you know, two to three pounds just because of whatever dynamics, um the exact same weight for a year. And I would never have imagined that that would have ever been able to be possible before. So yeah, it's for me, it's been easy. For a lot of people, I know that it's not, it's still a struggle, but my disease isn't as strong, I would say, as their disease. So, and then for example, other people, they they lose all the weight and they can maintain on 2.5 milligram forever. Whereas somebody who's on 15 and struggling, they don't some of the times they're like, Oh, you don't need to go above that. That's not true. Everybody's different, everybody is different. So that's why I'm like, I'm no better than anyone else. This is just how my body reacts to it. Um, this happens to be the perfect medication for me. 12.5 is the perfect medication. The others are not. Um, but um, but it's just you have to find the right one. And so that's why with all these other ones that are going to be coming out, I'm very encouraged for a lot of my friends that I've met in the community because it's not the perfect medication for a lot of them yet. So it's just, you know, maintenance is when it works right for me, it's been easy. So I I try to be relatable to other people and I just have compassion for them. And I'm like, it has nothing to do with me. I didn't do anything to deserve this or make this the way it is. I drink water. I mean, I don't drink Cokes or anything. Like, I don't, I'm not a soda person. Um, so I drink water, I get vitamin IVs, I eat fruits and vegetables, I eat, I don't like steak a lot, but you know, like I I eat appropriately, but it has nothing to do with what I've done. Nothing. It's just how my body reacts to this. And so for other people, they have to work really hard to maintain it and do other things to make it work. So um, and that's why I always say it has nothing to do with me. And I don't think it has anything to do with you either. You know, it's just how your body's gonna react to this and how my body does as well.

Dr. Lindsay Ogle 30:25

Yeah. Well, that's so beautiful that you feel like it's easy in maintenance for you right now. And like you said, it your body is responding perfectly to the Zet Found 12.5 milligrams. And that's great. That's wonderful for you. And that's exactly how it's supposed to work that you take your medication, you get that freedom from food noise, you're metabolically healthy, and you can just go about your day without constantly just having to spend all of your brain energy, you know, fighting the food noise and the thoughts about food. So I'm just glad that you have that that freedom and that you're feeling so well with this treatment. Um, and I really appreciate you, you know, saying that it's nothing, I guess, special or unique that you're doing. It's just the the way that your body is made that fits well with the medication at that dose. And everyone, everyone is different. And yeah, the beautiful thing is that we're gonna have more tools to, you know, hopefully get more people to feel like you're feeling right now. Um, so again, yeah, thank you for sharing your story. Um, for anybody who is wanting to follow you on TikTok, I will have the link to your page um below so they can follow you and you know, follow you on this journey and learn from you and share their story as well. So thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you for listening and learning how you can improve your metabolic health in this modern world. If you found this information helpful, please share with a friend, family member, or colleague. We need to do all we can to combat the dangerous misinformation that is out there. Please subscribe and write a review. This will help others find the podcast so they may also improve their metabolic health. I look forward to our conversation next week.