Modern Metabolic Health with Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD

What Stage Of Obesity Do You Have?

Lindsay Ogle, MD

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Forget the scale-first mindset. We break down why BMI misses the true story of health and walk through the Edmonton Obesity Staging System, a clear framework that matches treatment intensity to real-world risk. By shifting focus from a single number to metabolic status, we show how early action can prevent disease, how targeted therapy can simplify complex care, and why success is measured in energy, function, and longevity—not pant size.

We start by exposing BMI’s blind spots around body composition and visceral fat, then define obesity as a chronic, treatable disease recognized by major medical bodies. From there, we map each Edmonton stage to practical strategies. Stage 0 and Stage 1 emphasize prevention: structured nutrition, progressive exercise, better sleep, and stress skills to reverse early warning signs like prediabetes and borderline blood pressure. Stage 2 spotlights root-cause treatment that tackles excess adiposity and metabolic dysfunction directly, using lifestyle plus evidence-based anti-obesity medications such as GLP-1 receptor agonists to reduce multiple conditions at once. Stage 3 addresses complications—heart attacks, strokes, neuropathy—pairing urgent management with continued weight-focused therapy to halt further damage. Stage 4 focuses on dignity and function amid end-organ damage, aligning care to preserve strength, mobility, and quality of life.

Throughout, we share how to judge progress by improved labs, lower medication burden, better sleep, and daily capabilities, not arbitrary targets. You’ll learn why two people with the same BMI can have opposite risks, how staging guides smarter choices, and what steps to take whether you’re preventing disease or managing it. Ready to rethink weight and health with a science-based, compassionate lens? Follow the show, share this episode with someone who needs clarity over stigma, and leave a review so more people can find credible metabolic health guidance.

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Welcome And Scope Of The Show

Dr. Lindsay Ogle

Welcome to the Modern Metabolic Health Podcast with your host, Dr. Lindsay Olville, Board Certified Family Medicine and Obesity Medicine Physician. Here we learn how we can treat and prevent modern metabolic conditions such as diabetes, PCOS, fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome, sleep apnea, and more. We focus on optimizing lifestyle while utilizing safe and effective medical treatments. Please remember that while I am a physician, I am not your physician. Everything discussed here is provided as general medical knowledge and not direct medical advice. Please talk to your doctor about what is best for you.

BMI Explained And Its Limits

Dr. Lindsay Ogle

We've all heard of BMI, Body Mass Index. But have you heard of the Edmonton Obesity Staging System? Probably not, unless you are in the field of obesity medicine. But I'm going to tell you what that staging system is, how it's classified, and how it can be helpful in helping to guide treatment for the disease of obesity. The reason that BMI has been used so often to classify and define obesity is because it is easy, cheap, and reproducible. It is a calculation that takes into account somebody's height versus their weight. All you need to do is measure their height and weigh on a scale and plug those numbers into a calculator, and you have the BMI. Really doesn't take any money to do, and we can watch that BMI over time and see if things are going to higher numbers or to lower numbers. And so there are benefits to BMI for those reasons, but there are a lot of drawbacks to the BMI. And it has gotten a lot of criticism, appropriately so, because of these drawbacks. Namely, it does not tell us anything about body composition. So we're only looking at total body weight. We have no idea if that body weight is mostly fat mass or if it's lean mass with muscle and bone. Water weight is another highly variable component that we cannot distinguish with BMI alone. So, as with anything in life, there are good and bad things that come with the BMI. And it can be a helpful indicator and something that we can watch over time, but we just need to take into account those limitations.

Defining Obesity Beyond Weight

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The field of obesity medicine is rapidly evolving with our new treatment options, our GLP1 agonists, and similar medications. And along with that, we are clarifying the definition of obesity. Since 2013, obesity has been recognized by the American Medical Association as a chronic condition. In medicine, this hasn't been very long of a time. There have been new definitions that are put out there that are taking into account more specifically body composition compared to just overall weight, which I think is a great direction for the medical community to be going into because it's that excess weight, specifically excess weight in the abdominal region and within and around our organs, that negatively affects our health. We want to identify people, no matter what their BMI is, with the excess fat cells in those areas and treat them accordingly, so then we can help lower their risk of weight-related complications like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, fatty liver disease, chronic kidney disease, high blood pressure, abnormal cholesterol, obstructive sleep apnea, and several cancers. There are people who have a normal BMI or maybe are in the overweight category that are less healthy than people who meet the BMI criteria for obesity. And there are people who meet BMI criteria for obesity that are extremely healthy and have no chronic conditions and are able to do everything that they want to do in their lives. Should we treat the person with a BMI in the obese category and not treat the person with a BMI in a healthy or overweight category but has metabolic-related conditions? Which one deserves treatment? We need to identify who is healthy, who is metabolically healthy, and who is metabolically sick, and help the ones who are metabolically sick or unhealthy. And that is what these new definitions of obesity are helping us

Introducing The Edmonton Staging System

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do. But before we even have these new criteria, we have the Edmonton staging system of obesity that gives us different stages, kind of like how we stage cancers, and we are able to stage the condition of obesity. There are five stages, and I'll go through each of them here. So stage zero is where we all start. We have no conditions that are related to our weight. So even if we meet BMI criteria for obesity, if we have no weight-related conditions, then our Edmonton staging score is zero. Which means we are healthy and we do not need to treat our weight for a health-related reason. Next is stage one, which includes subclinical risk factors. So this is like a pre-disease. So your blood pressure may be getting a little bit higher, you may have a little bit of joint pain, you may have pre-diabetes, your cholesterol numbers may be a little bit abnormal, but you are not requiring treatment, you don't need a medication, you're able to function very well in your day-to-day life. This is when the utilization of lifestyle treatments, diet, exercise, stress management, sleep hygiene are so effective. They

Stage 0 And Stage 1 Details

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are able to catch the early diagnosis of these diseases and help prevent the progression to the full development of these conditions and help bring that person back to a stage zero. Lifestyle is helpful for everybody. Lifestyle modification and optimization is helpful for all of us, no matter what stage we're in. But this stage one is where it is so powerful because it will truly prevent the development of disease and it'll stop it in its tracks and bring that person back to their stage zero, their healthy state. Stage two. Now somebody with obesity has developed a weight-related condition. They now have type 2 diabetes or hypertension, high blood pressure that requires a medication, they may have obstructive sleep apnea, acid reflux, GERD, osteoarthritis, the wear and tear on the bones that requires treatment. This stage is another really important one to identify because if we recognize that these conditions that have developed are related to the weight and we treat that underlying cause, the weight, the metabolic dysfunction, then we are able to treat all of those conditions by treating the excess weight and the metabolic dysfunction rather than adding individual treatments for each of these that develop. It's important to address each of these conditions, and it may require temporary medications like blood pressure or cholesterol medicine or anti-inflammatory medications or heartburn medicines while we treat the excess weight with possibly weak OVRs upbound. And once we are able to treat the underlying condition, the excess weight, the obesity, then we are highly likely able to reduce or discontinue those other medications. Stage three is when those weight-related conditions have either been going on long enough or have become severe

Stage 2: Treating Root Causes

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enough that they are themselves beginning to have complications. So this is when heart attacks happen, strokes occur, there's complications from the diabetes, chronic kidney disease, skin infections, ulcers, neuropathy, decreased vision. This is when it becomes imperative to both treat the obesity as the underlying cause, but also get a hold of those chronic conditions and address the acute complications as they arise. Stage four is unfortunately when we have end organ damage. So this is when we need knee replacements for osteoarthritis. Maybe somebody is confined to a wheelchair or a bed because their weight has affected their motility. In-stage kidney disease requiring dialysis, heart failure, the fatty liver disease has progressed to cirrhosis. These are very sick patients who were not caught at those earlier stages, were not treated for their underlying condition of obesity. Their complications of high blood pressure, osteoarthritis, diabetes, dyslipidemia have them in themselves developed complications, the cirrhosis, stroke, heart failure, heart attacks, kidney disease. This is when it is impossible to reverse these conditions. And what we're left to do with is manage these chronic conditions. This is why I went into the field of obesity medicine. We as a society need to realize that it is safe and effective and necessary to treat the underlying cause of these now common

Stage 3: Complications Escalate

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conditions. If we do so, we are able to keep people healthy long term and prevent these catastrophic conditions that develop as a consequence down the line from excess weight and metabolic dysfunction. The field of obesity is not about everybody reaching a normal BMI or normal weight, a certain pant size. It is about achieving health and improving people's lives, improving longevity as well as functionality and in their lives. Nobody wants to be sick at the end of their lives. We want to feel feel well and fulfilled

Stage 4: End Organ Damage

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and have lots of energy and play with our kids and our grandchildren. By treating the disease the disease of obesity, we are able to accomplish that. We have health-related goals that we are able to achieve with appropriate treatment. If you or someone you love is struggling with metabolic dysfunction, excess weight, and obesity, I highly recommend that you find an obesity-certified physician in your area and I will provide some links below

ty] Finding Care And Final Calls To Action

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to search for them. And if you live in Missouri, I can be your doctor no matter where in Missouri you live. Missouri Metabolic Health is my clinic. Check out the website and I'd be happy to see you. Please let me know what questions you

Health Goals Over Pant Size

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have. I would love to address them further in a future video. Thank you for listening and learning how you can improve your metabolic health in this modern world. If you found this information helpful, please share with a friend, family member, or colleague. We need to do all we can to combat the dangerous misinformation that is out there. Please subscribe and write a review. This will help others find the podcast so they may also improve their metabolic health. I look forward to our conversation next week.